I would love something like this, BUT as the actual side panel. Really not sure why so many case manufacturers have this obsession with tempered glass when a wall of fans and radiators would make a perfect side panel.
When I saw him building the radiatior I was just thinking wow an entire side panel of fans(cause I was skipping the video) and then i see him keep the radiator outside. Maybe that is a flex who knows. I would keep it near my ac vent. If it was outside but making the radiator the side panel is a cool idea.
Nvidia doesn't care about consumers, they underspec other cards and increase prices of the flagship card every gen because gamers are a small spec of dust in the GPU market compared to the AI industry
@@rensomusni8091 Yup. The most money in a high end server goes to RAM, a couple TB can easily cost medium five to low six figures, more than 8 Xeon Gold or AMD Epyc combined.
Hello. Some tips from pro: 1. Jet impingement cooling in those blocks will not work: a) You have only one D5 -5L/min flow - at best. b) you've connected 3x 360 linear radiators to the pump outlet by hanging tubes - you're decreasing flow more c) comeback is through flowmeter up to the terminal.... d) you're using fully parallel terminal = so you're splitting 4L of flow to 0,8L/min with dramatic pressure 2. Having 0,8L/min on 5995WX is totally uneffective for 280W at stock never mind any OC. With 8 channel RAM this CPU TLC die will overheat and may even have stutters at desktop 3. 450W cards will throttle 4. You've made 2 part WorkStation while not using any in-case radiators. 5. Look at your flow on the flow meter at last scenes - it's very bad, while it should be flowing like hell because it's right before terminal which will divide it to 5 streams. You should've: Used Revo Dual D5 (11L/min with radiators) + 1x D5 with reservoir = 12L - 13L/min flow. Use semi parallel terminal or linear with radiators in the middle of this flow. If CPU OC was considered you should make CPU at line 1. First after pump should be waterblocks, not quick couple disconnects and rads. PS: 4Way means SLI or NVlink - you do not have 4Way. You have QuadGPU setup. hwbot.org/user/adventurepo/
Can you explain in layman's terms this 1(d): you're using fully parallel terminal = so you're splitting 4L of flow to 0,8L/min with dramatic pressure And then how your solution: Use semi parallel terminal or linear with radiators in the middle of this flow. Solves this issue. And please kindly remember, if you can't explain this to an idiot, then you don't really know the issue. Thanks.
@@dreamfunction4491 First "And please kindly remember, if you can't explain this to an idiot, then you don't really know the issue." Well there are many things that idiots don't understand even when presented with all the facts and given simple presentations. And as thermal fluid dynamics are very complicated subject even for students, do not assume there's a simple explanation so any idiot can understand it.. So this argument is in fact out of the window. In fact: in fluid dynamic and thermal fluid dynamics there are that many numbers and ratios than not many teacher understands them fully. But I'll try :D You have 1 liter bottle / minute produced by a machine. If you're drinking yourself only then you have a litter for yourself every minute. But if you're making a party with four other guys you'll have only 1/5 of this flow every minute. So the pressure in all your bladders will be lower ;). or you have 1 pizza in 20 min, if you're eating alone you have 1 pizza every 20min. If you're eating with 4 friends you have 1/5 of pizza per 20 min. Jokes aside : a limiting factor of flow is the diameter of the single tube and throughout of MORA with 2 QDC in the middle of this. Now you're splitting 1 stream into 5 same diameter streams. There's no magic there, unfortunately. Your streams have to merge after terminal also into same diameter of tube. Normally the limiting factors of streams are jet plates of waterblocks, but here it will be the flow through rads, QDCs and tubes. If you'll poor 1 liter of water on the ground with an angle, your stream might divide or not. If not: it will be thick one stream, if it does: divides into smaller ones. The terminal is not multiplying water in the system. It divides and distributes it. The flow from the pump has it's volume (V) and speed (v) and from those (in very complicated way) you're getting pressure (P). If you're using parallel terminal you're splitting this Volume Vrc1 into 5 same diameter streams Vrc2 which is in fact Vrc1 x5. Volume per minute in everyone of them will drop to the maximum volume that a single tube pre and after terminal can carry in time. So when the volume per minute drops - it means the velocity of the flow dropped. And when the velocity of flow drops the pressure drops. Most of the water blocks has the jet plate - for jet impingement cooling. This plate narrows and elongates the stream into line so it will go through all the fins of cold plate. But the higher the flow and pressure of stream through this jet plate is, the more turbulent flow occurs. The more turbulent flow is the smaller stagnation zone will be between the fins of cold plate - the more water will be pushed deeper between the fins. If you'd use semi parallel terminal you're dividing stream into 2 or 3 streams -not into 5. So the flow is higher = volume per minute is higher and pressure is higher. Let's say pump+mora+QDCs -> CPU + 2x GPU -> radiator on top (cooling) -> 3x GPU-> pump. You'll then have divided the stream into maximum of 3 same diameter streams. So in every stream of this situation you'll have higher flow/min. The higher the flow the better the cooling. Did you get it? Some equations and phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/College_Physics/Book%3A_College_Physics_1e_(OpenStax)/12%3A_Fluid_Dynamics_and_Its_Biological_and_Medical_Applications/12.01%3A_Flow_Rate_and_Its_Relation_to_Velocity www.researchgate.net/publication/323314537_Impinging_jets_-_a_short_review_on_strategies_for_heat_transfer_enhancement
Was going to just say the same thing. He should be running at least a dual d5 in parallel. I would also recommend that he has another separate pump on his MORA.
4090 x 4 + TR is near 2kw of heat to reject, one D5 pump + 3x360mm radiator is going to overheat and throttle after a short while. I would suggest a dual d5 pump and push-pull fans on the radiator, and remove flow restrictions such as flow meter, temp sensor. Other than that it's a lovely build. The cooling issues can be easily sorted for not much cash.
Yeah the moment I saw 4x 4090 I started worrying if that cooling will even be enough. I hope all of those 4090's will be undervolted at least somewhat.
@@dazeen9591 The 4090 doesn't support more than one card without Nvlink or SLI, and that was finally dropped by nvidia after the 30 series cards. They are just expensive paperweights.
It's probably not a conductive liquid, and the components seem very high quality. Air cooling a setup like this is also impossible because there is not enough clearance in between the cards.
This guy is not a random gamer dude, but a professional machine builder for institutions or businesses. His blog introduces a lot of examples like this, delivered to Research Centers and Hospitals.
Quick disconnects everywhere is not a good idea, especially with one pump. If you're going to have an external unit, get one of the tower koolance chillers -- pump, rad, resevoir are external and not heated up by PC components. I would stay away from parallel distro blocks, you're splitting flow, it's always recommended to go in series -- CPU first, then GPUs -- and out, the liquid will normalize at a temperature, and flow will not be compromised. I was hoping to see the system boot and post, but I just saw how not to liquid cool a high end system
Pro tip, the radiator QD's should not be the same for both connections. Have a male and female connection on the back of the tower so that you don't have to think about which way to hook it up. If they are opposite, you can 1, seal the radiator side completely, 2) use an intermediate hose and run the pump without the radiator at all.
Вы пронаблюдали как из компьютерных комплектующих можно сделать домашний обогреватель на 2 киловатта или если подключить к нему водопровод то бойлер на два киловатта :)
If he had 15 4090s. And you're exactly right in Nvidia's terms. Deep learning is more important than gamers to them. That's why they increase prices and lower specs compared to their true capabilities
@@thelespauldude3283 it would actually be really good, what? Zen 3 and a 4090. If the cooling could handle it, it would game like a beast, but more than half of the hardware would be idle.
Doesn't matter wich resoltion because you will always be in a giant CPU bottleneck even on 8K. It will always stutter as hell because that CPU is absolutely not fit for Gaming especially not for CPU heavy games like Minecraft.
considering the cost of the pc parts its a shame he stinged out so much on the water-cooling so many interesting and far more optimal options. id be very interested see the thermals under stress
The temp delta can be like 10C before and after each videocard if loaded at 500 watt. I doubt that the efficiency of this cooling is any good unless they use a pump that pumps water like crazy to minimize that delta difference. However... they use just a regular d5 pump.
@@beeseechurger Clearly? Except for a couple of cables and hoses, that aren't organized perfectly, I haven't seen any "clearly" bad thing. But: Your opinion, of course. 👍
@@Mathias-RetroFutureTech temperature reading unit is in a nearly useless spot (the outlet), the hoses are managed onto a huge block with no definite way to manage the flow, pump is a measly d5 which will barely get any of that water moving, half of the hoses are shoddily secured with little screw-in clamps there's no NV-LINK so that person using it is limited to learning ONLY which is not a good idea since, this being in a desktop case, is clearly going to go to someone's house and not in a rack. Meaning it very well could be used for things other than learning, which is a big realization for the next person. theres no PSU shroud, and the intake on the PSU is on the wrong side. The water lines are 100% going to get hot with that slow flow-rate, not to mention those are managed like spaghetti. The cables are managed like ass, which is just a silly way to do things when you're building a 20k PC. Plus, dont think I forgot, but theres only 4 sticks of RAM in a board clearly made for 8 sticks. If you're going to spend so much, you might as well actually get enough RAM for these learning tasks or AI or whatever. I mean come on you could atleast have double for 256gb. IDK man. This PC seems like it was built by some rando and this guy just threw it together. Silly build.
@@beeseechurger Damn, that's an eye opener! To be honest, I'm really not that deep into custom water-cooling and believed that nvlink isn't a thing anymore (had actually asked myself if one really doesn't need it for connecting these cards nowadays)... So I guess my uneducated point of view made me believe this is a thought trough system. Thanks for elaborating these flaws! 👌👍
Yeah, and the loop is configured for seemingly the lowest flow rate possible, check the flow meter in the last couple scenes, slow as hell. Everything in that is gonna throttle. Shame. Should’ve had some internal rads, plus the cpu first in the loop. As well as that, an additional d5 pump would have done wonders.
@@luckys1evin Except for gaming where two 3090 can work in SLI which the 4090 can't, so the dual 3090 may outperform the single 4090 in many cases (and the other three just idle).
@@magicmulder a. SLI is pretty much dead - either does not work, or has loads of issues, unless you're all about breaking benchmarks - it's nearly useless. b. this ain't a gaming PC, it is used for professional work where each GPU can work individually.
cool computer I'm pretty happy with my single rog strix OC 4090. I thought it was a bit ridiculous how much I spent and then I immediately think of the depreciation in 6 months.
@@Ruwrize I used my old gtx1080 for like 5 years, then upgraded to rtx3080ti for 500$ and I am more than happy about it.. don't see any reason to buy 4090 for crazy amount of money when 99% of games run 150-200fps on 3080ti for third of price..
I would recommend a larger res tube for a bit more coolant volume but thats not so big a deal as having a 2nd pump to make sure the fluid is always in motion.
It Will be enough that's 2 120mm space for each 4090 and 1 120mm space for the CPU that's thinking they would all be hit at the same time Wich is unlikely and also they're running the system at stock speeds so the power draw won't be that high
What? The end goal is flow, not pressure. Parallel will provide better cooling. By the way, he installs four of gpu so they can work in parallel. He could supply same amount of task to one gpu in serial but in parallel they do the same job faster. Different areas - same principle. Parallel splits the task
@@eee8662 Low pressure => low flow. Water will flow fast to the last block (due to pressure by gravity) and almost none to the uper block of the splitter.
@@rodrigocunha34 1. The rule "low pressure leads to low flow" is correct when resistance is constant. I.e. if you have only one gpu. You can achieve higher flow by increasing pressure. When configuration changes - not one gpu but 4(!) Of them - you can not use that the same measure stick (pressure) that was in Internet references use for one gpu. Consider this: you can decrease the pipes diameter (or better yet plug them off completely to see the point) - the flow will approach zero but yea, at least you will get the high pressure. The lesson is: yes you increase the pressure to achieve the high flow, not the other way around. Going serial - is that other way around - akin plugging pipes off - you will kill flow but skyrocket pressure. 2. Role of gravity. My intuition tells me it will be negligible here. If any. The easy way to prove - to put meter on each gpu and see. 3. Quick thought tells me - gravity will play no role at all - the amount of water that goes down is equal amount of water that goes up. I may be wrong about this however. 4. You may be correct that there may be different amount of water going to each gpu but that is not due to gravity but rather due to distance from main radiator/pump ports. The way to fix it - system must be symmetrical.. Bottom line - you want it symmetrical and parallel. Serial - will kill it.
@@rodrigocunha34 And. Don't forget the temperature. Symmetric-parallel will ensure each gpu gets fresh cold water from pump. Serial - the last gpu in line will get hot exhaust water warmed by three of those gpu before it.
@@rodrigocunha34 if resulting water flow is less than desirable - he must use more powerful pump. Or even several pumps. But. No way GPUs be connected serially.
THreadripper Pro 5000 CPUs support 8 channel memory so performance is reduced with only 4 sticks. However, I expect RAM performance is secondary for this PC.
man just imagine having a business case to build and have a system like this. that's the dream. Also, I probably would err on the side of using a tad more thermal paste. better to have a little extra then having too little
that would be a fat azz no, this is made for whole home whole damn office / neighborhood etc networking from single point machine closed away in the shed for heat
I dunno dude, how are you gonna use 4 4090's, sli is dead, the only thing i can see this thing being useful for is machine learning, like the only other reason to have more than one gpu is because you are running linux and want to have a dedicated gpu for windows, that's why i have a 6950x and a 4090, and the only reason why i even need a 6950x for linux is because i got 4 4k screens which just use too much vram when i'm even just on the desktop, other than those 2 reasons there is no point in having more than 1 gpu, let alone 4 gpu's lol
@@MrTurbo_ Well like you said, this is probably going to be used for machine learning. In which case it's an absolute beast of a machine. I highly doubt someone bought 4 4090's to play games.
Cool build, those 4090s look normal sized without those monster coolers on them :). That big radiator reminds me of the big copper car radiator i used back in the early 2000s, compared to then there is so much cool watercooling gear, i have not had a watercooled PC for a while but seeing stuff like that makes me want to again.
To this day it still blows my mind how small the naked 4090 without all those massive heatsinks is. makes the crazy prices some websites want for this graphics card even more crazy
this is what i want to know to my understanding its impossible to use them all at once on one task but maybe you can run four different tasks at once one on each GPU idk though
Can't wait to pick this up on marketplace for $1000 in 5 years.
lmao😂
try 25999
Real
3.5year that is enough, because next 2 generations hardware will make those pc obsoleted.
The watercooling-components will still have its price.
Dude, if you're going to make a build this epic, fill-up all of the RAM slots.
its already 128 gigs. Also, filling entire slot will harm the clock speed, so its just already as big with full clock.
@@azravalencia4577 they could just use dummy RAM sticks too
Fill up your ram slot.
He obviously builds for a client, not for his own. Just doing what his client asked so I wouldn't blame him.
I don't think this is a build were looks or epicness was a priority
I never get bored of watching someone build a computer that I can't afford, sending support.
Bro that PC is more expensive that my house 💀
@@-_-_EpicaL_-_- The price is unnecessary.
lol me too
However most people don’t need such machine
@@-_-_EpicaL_-_- wtf bro
my guy pulled the radiator out his honda civic for this one
And the entire PC costs as much as a Honda Accord
lol and to think if it leaks even a tiny bit.... buy buy system :-\
I would love something like this, BUT as the actual side panel. Really not sure why so many case manufacturers have this obsession with tempered glass when a wall of fans and radiators would make a perfect side panel.
When I saw him building the radiatior I was just thinking wow an entire side panel of fans(cause I was skipping the video) and then i see him keep the radiator outside. Maybe that is a flex who knows. I would keep it near my ac vent. If it was outside but making the radiator the side panel is a cool idea.
Because case restrict airflow. Radiators and fans has best effiency out of the case just like that.
this aged wewll. I'm assuming you've seen the new compensator from ltt
I nice budget mid tier gaming PC setup..
as Nvidia would call it.
Since the additional 4090s don't do anything for gaming (nor do 64 cores), that it basically just a standard 4090 build for gaming.
Nvidia doesn't care about consumers, they underspec other cards and increase prices of the flagship card every gen because gamers are a small spec of dust in the GPU market compared to the AI industry
The way those RAM sticks look already tells this build can still get more expensive
@@rensomusni8091 Yup. The most money in a high end server goes to RAM, a couple TB can easily cost medium five to low six figures, more than 8 Xeon Gold or AMD Epyc combined.
yes, it's humble
Hello. Some tips from pro:
1. Jet impingement cooling in those blocks will not work:
a) You have only one D5 -5L/min flow - at best.
b) you've connected 3x 360 linear radiators to the pump outlet by hanging tubes - you're decreasing flow more
c) comeback is through flowmeter up to the terminal....
d) you're using fully parallel terminal = so you're splitting 4L of flow to 0,8L/min with dramatic pressure
2. Having 0,8L/min on 5995WX is totally uneffective for 280W at stock never mind any OC. With 8 channel RAM this CPU TLC die will overheat and may even have stutters at desktop
3. 450W cards will throttle
4. You've made 2 part WorkStation while not using any in-case radiators.
5. Look at your flow on the flow meter at last scenes - it's very bad, while it should be flowing like hell because it's right before terminal which will divide it to 5 streams.
You should've:
Used Revo Dual D5 (11L/min with radiators) + 1x D5 with reservoir = 12L - 13L/min flow.
Use semi parallel terminal or linear with radiators in the middle of this flow.
If CPU OC was considered you should make CPU at line 1.
First after pump should be waterblocks, not quick couple disconnects and rads.
PS: 4Way means SLI or NVlink - you do not have 4Way. You have QuadGPU setup.
hwbot.org/user/adventurepo/
Can you explain in layman's terms this
1(d): you're using fully parallel terminal = so you're splitting 4L of flow to 0,8L/min with dramatic
pressure
And then how your solution: Use semi parallel terminal or linear with radiators in the middle of this flow.
Solves this issue.
And please kindly remember, if you can't explain this to an idiot, then you don't really know the issue.
Thanks.
@@dreamfunction4491 First "And please kindly remember, if you can't explain this to an idiot, then you don't really know the issue." Well there are many things that idiots don't understand even when presented with all the facts and given simple presentations. And as thermal fluid dynamics are very complicated subject even for students, do not assume there's a simple explanation so any idiot can understand it.. So this argument is in fact out of the window.
In fact: in fluid dynamic and thermal fluid dynamics there are that many numbers and ratios than not many teacher understands them fully. But I'll try :D
You have 1 liter bottle / minute produced by a machine. If you're drinking yourself only then you have a litter for yourself every minute. But if you're making a party with four other guys you'll have only 1/5 of this flow every minute. So the pressure in all your bladders will be lower ;).
or
you have 1 pizza in 20 min, if you're eating alone you have 1 pizza every 20min. If you're eating with 4 friends you have 1/5 of pizza per 20 min.
Jokes aside : a limiting factor of flow is the diameter of the single tube and throughout of MORA with 2 QDC in the middle of this. Now you're splitting 1 stream into 5 same diameter streams. There's no magic there, unfortunately. Your streams have to merge after terminal also into same diameter of tube. Normally the limiting factors of streams are jet plates of waterblocks, but here it will be the flow through rads, QDCs and tubes.
If you'll poor 1 liter of water on the ground with an angle, your stream might divide or not. If not: it will be thick one stream, if it does: divides into smaller ones. The terminal is not multiplying water in the system. It divides and distributes it.
The flow from the pump has it's volume (V) and speed (v) and from those (in very complicated way) you're getting pressure (P). If you're using parallel terminal you're splitting this Volume Vrc1 into 5 same diameter streams Vrc2 which is in fact Vrc1 x5. Volume per minute in everyone of them will drop to the maximum volume that a single tube pre and after terminal can carry in time. So when the volume per minute drops - it means the velocity of the flow dropped. And when the velocity of flow drops the pressure drops.
Most of the water blocks has the jet plate - for jet impingement cooling. This plate narrows and elongates the stream into line so it will go through all the fins of cold plate. But the higher the flow and pressure of stream through this jet plate is, the more turbulent flow occurs. The more turbulent flow is the smaller stagnation zone will be between the fins of cold plate - the more water will be pushed deeper between the fins.
If you'd use semi parallel terminal you're dividing stream into 2 or 3 streams -not into 5. So the flow is higher = volume per minute is higher and pressure is higher.
Let's say pump+mora+QDCs -> CPU + 2x GPU -> radiator on top (cooling) -> 3x GPU-> pump. You'll then have divided the stream into maximum of 3 same diameter streams. So in every stream of this situation you'll have higher flow/min. The higher the flow the better the cooling.
Did you get it?
Some equations and
phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/College_Physics/Book%3A_College_Physics_1e_(OpenStax)/12%3A_Fluid_Dynamics_and_Its_Biological_and_Medical_Applications/12.01%3A_Flow_Rate_and_Its_Relation_to_Velocity
www.researchgate.net/publication/323314537_Impinging_jets_-_a_short_review_on_strategies_for_heat_transfer_enhancement
Was going to just say the same thing. He should be running at least a dual d5 in parallel. I would also recommend that he has another separate pump on his MORA.
awesome comment
4090 don’t have sli or nvlink. Cad and blender already can multitask without this.
4090 x 4 + TR is near 2kw of heat to reject, one D5 pump + 3x360mm radiator is going to overheat and throttle after a short while. I would suggest a dual d5 pump and push-pull fans on the radiator, and remove flow restrictions such as flow meter, temp sensor. Other than that it's a lovely build. The cooling issues can be easily sorted for not much cash.
Yeah the moment I saw 4x 4090 I started worrying if that cooling will even be enough.
I hope all of those 4090's will be undervolted at least somewhat.
Flow meter and temp sensor are avsolutely essential and their restriction is negligible in this setup.
@@dazeen9591 The 4090 doesn't support more than one card without Nvlink or SLI, and that was finally dropped by nvidia after the 30 series cards. They are just expensive paperweights.
@@gargolgaming8101 having gpus act independently can be beneficial
@@traestephen7276 But you can only use one gpu at a time, can you not?
Dude! Everything is amazing about this video - it's not too long, impressive build, awesome music. Keep going, man!
Ram not really amazing.
its for roblox ?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@Jiolosik Old School Runescape, Microsoft Excel, and a few youtube videos, besides that not used at all
No, ryzen threadripper is made for scientific calculation and 3d rendering.
No, I'm so sorry.
it's for Microsoft Office
PCs are actually part of furniture motif. They are art. This shows why they are a passion that still lives.
I need to sell my kidney for that 💀
the day when either AGI is released or immersive VR sets - all this trash with fans, liquids and CPUs becomes obsolete and costs nothing
Art retains or increases in value over time.
I am amazed how you trust your expensive hardware with custom water cooling. Multiple points of leakage, point of failure for the pump… etc.
It's probably not a conductive liquid, and the components seem very high quality. Air cooling a setup like this is also impossible because there is not enough clearance in between the cards.
He's probably going to disassemble the build right after the video was completed. Just for videos , not real.
This guy is not a random gamer dude, but a professional machine builder for institutions or businesses. His blog introduces a lot of examples like this, delivered to Research Centers and Hospitals.
@@technocracy90 You are missing the point that Mamdouh is making. Read his comment again and try to understand what he is saying. He is right.
@@dreamfunction4491 I'm not talking to OP but you. My point is they don't disassemble it. Custom water cooling system is one of their sales point.
Quick disconnects everywhere is not a good idea, especially with one pump. If you're going to have an external unit, get one of the tower koolance chillers -- pump, rad, resevoir are external and not heated up by PC components. I would stay away from parallel distro blocks, you're splitting flow, it's always recommended to go in series -- CPU first, then GPUs -- and out, the liquid will normalize at a temperature, and flow will not be compromised. I was hoping to see the system boot and post, but I just saw how not to liquid cool a high end system
He's not building a PC, it's a FACTORY!
Pro tip, the radiator QD's should not be the same for both connections. Have a male and female connection on the back of the tower so that you don't have to think about which way to hook it up. If they are opposite, you can 1, seal the radiator side completely, 2) use an intermediate hose and run the pump without the radiator at all.
Вы пронаблюдали как из компьютерных комплектующих можно сделать домашний обогреватель на 2 киловатта или если подключить к нему водопровод то бойлер на два киловатта :)
4 киловата😊 В НЁМ ДВА БЛОКА
@@ЕвгенийЧирков-ш6д Это запас вторые два киловатта когда отопление отключат :)
Интересно, для чего такая сборка? Какое-то безумие
@@apelsin1980 Рендеринг скорее всего, видео обработка
Тетрис потянет?
What an epic build for Deep Learning!
Yeah… deep learning…
If he had 15 4090s. And you're exactly right in Nvidia's terms. Deep learning is more important than gamers to them. That's why they increase prices and lower specs compared to their true capabilities
To learn how deeply you hate its price.
Way better for shallow learning
Very nice build .Clean with high end components .I wish you could include benchmarks of this beast.
Well don't expect gaming benchmark though, but blender's cycle viewport performance must be sick or rendering time.
Gaming performance on this would not be that good tbh. Its not a gaming system
@@thelespauldude3283 it would actually be really good, what? Zen 3 and a 4090. If the cooling could handle it, it would game like a beast, but more than half of the hardware would be idle.
@@LtdJorge can you actually play with 4 4090 in sli ? and threadrippers if i remember fall a bit behind for gaming
@@wilihey1425 SLI is pretty much dead nowadays so no
Congrats on assembling your new space heater.
now you can enjoy your minecraft rtx in 720p
Doesn't matter wich resoltion because you will always be in a giant CPU bottleneck even on 8K.
It will always stutter as hell because that CPU is absolutely not fit for Gaming especially not for CPU heavy games like Minecraft.
@@melon3210 wait you don’t game on 2 epycs for 192 cores?
I think its a pc for animators and 3D rendering
Finally sufficient specs for Google Chrome))
think he'll need to fill all ram slots to run chrome!
@@chris9517 firefox still freezes up though.
Bro used aliexpress RAM💀
All Threadripper PRO CPUs have 8-channel memory controllers. By only using 4 DIMMS, you're leaving half your memory bandwidth on the table.
I guess an experienced eye would know if those were real 4090 RTX's. It's not listed anywhere on the cases.
considering the cost of the pc parts its a shame he stinged out so much on the water-cooling so many interesting and far more optimal options. id be very interested see the thermals under stress
You don’t have to see them to know they’re shit.
Instant throttle while opening file explorer
The temp delta can be like 10C before and after each videocard if loaded at 500 watt. I doubt that the efficiency of this cooling is any good unless they use a pump that pumps water like crazy to minimize that delta difference. However... they use just a regular d5 pump.
You can render reality with this build.
This is madness......... THIS IS SPARTA!!!! Great job on the world's first privately owned SUPERCOMPUTER.
Damn, even the quick disconnects alone might break the bank of a traditional build. :) Love it, what a beast. :)
These are too good bro on god i would watch these all Day if i had nothing to do
Just too good
That's actually a workstation for professional use. Just perfect, not just for show - This system will be used and is build by purpose!
its built badly and with very little care, clearly can see it in the video.
@@beeseechurger Clearly? Except for a couple of cables and hoses, that aren't organized perfectly, I haven't seen any "clearly" bad thing. But: Your opinion, of course. 👍
@@Mathias-RetroFutureTech temperature reading unit is in a nearly useless spot (the outlet), the hoses are managed onto a huge block with no definite way to manage the flow, pump is a measly d5 which will barely get any of that water moving, half of the hoses are shoddily secured with little screw-in clamps
there's no NV-LINK so that person using it is limited to learning ONLY which is not a good idea since, this being in a desktop case, is clearly going to go to someone's house and not in a rack. Meaning it very well could be used for things other than learning, which is a big realization for the next person.
theres no PSU shroud, and the intake on the PSU is on the wrong side. The water lines are 100% going to get hot with that slow flow-rate, not to mention those are managed like spaghetti. The cables are managed like ass, which is just a silly way to do things when you're building a 20k PC. Plus, dont think I forgot, but theres only 4 sticks of RAM in a board clearly made for 8 sticks. If you're going to spend so much, you might as well actually get enough RAM for these learning tasks or AI or whatever. I mean come on you could atleast have double for 256gb.
IDK man. This PC seems like it was built by some rando and this guy just threw it together.
Silly build.
@@beeseechurger Damn, that's an eye opener! To be honest, I'm really not that deep into custom water-cooling and believed that nvlink isn't a thing anymore (had actually asked myself if one really doesn't need it for connecting these cards nowadays)... So I guess my uneducated point of view made me believe this is a thought trough system. Thanks for elaborating these flaws! 👌👍
@@Mathias-RetroFutureTechThen you know nothing about computers. This system will overheat as soon as you try to do any actual work with it.
My only critique of the build is to have the reservoir at the top of the fluid table, as it is, air locks are likely to accumulate in the radiators
Air in the radiators shouldn't be an issue I think. I'm only aware of that being a problem in AIOs if the air accumulates in the pump itself.
Air can accumulate in one of the waterblocks, and the liquid bypasses it through the other.
my critique is the 512 gb nvme...
Finally a PC that can play Jedi Survivor with a solid 60 fps.
My 4060 can do it at 1080p medium/high settings
This PC can render earth at 4k 120FPS! in real time💀
For my opinion, a 480 rad on top and the front would have just worked fine. No need for an external radiator.
Yeah, and the loop is configured for seemingly the lowest flow rate possible, check the flow meter in the last couple scenes, slow as hell.
Everything in that is gonna throttle. Shame. Should’ve had some internal rads, plus the cpu first in the loop. As well as that, an additional d5 pump would have done wonders.
idk man this is almost 2kw of power... even in the best case scenario I think that would lead to some throttling
Even the shown setup is not cool enough, he would need another pump and double on fans to set up a push pull.
Almost more powerful than the $40k 8 pack Orion PC
8 pack PC uses old graphic card and old CPU. so no way to beat this monster PC.
4x RTX 4090 > 2x RTX 3090
duh!
@@luckys1evin Except for gaming where two 3090 can work in SLI which the 4090 can't, so the dual 3090 may outperform the single 4090 in many cases (and the other three just idle).
@@magicmulder
a. SLI is pretty much dead - either does not work, or has loads of issues, unless you're all about breaking benchmarks - it's nearly useless.
b. this ain't a gaming PC, it is used for professional work where each GPU can work individually.
cool computer I'm pretty happy with my single rog strix OC 4090. I thought it was a bit ridiculous how much I spent and then I immediately think of the depreciation in 6 months.
What do you work as ?) I also want 4090 :)
i got a 7870 damn
@@Ruwrize I used my old gtx1080 for like 5 years, then upgraded to rtx3080ti for 500$ and I am more than happy about it..
don't see any reason to buy 4090 for crazy amount of money when 99% of games run 150-200fps on 3080ti for third of price..
@@benjaminshtark5977 cool and where did you buy an rtx 3080 ti for $500 ?
@@Ruwrize a lot of people sell them 2nd hand after crypto market collapsed.
just replace thermal paste and you are good to go.
i actually love the blacked out soft lines in this.
the null point isn't even the pc its the wifi (and power bill)
bro's power bill gonna have the feds thinking he got a weed farm in his house
1 pump and 2000 quick disconnects? must have really nice flow
lol
that poor D5 doing its best
Minimum pc requirement of Gta 7
Who is this legend, who need 4 4090 in one 🙄. Salute bro, salute 🫡🫡
It will be used for deep learning bro
@@SuperMetal4Eva Do 4090 even support sli? How would it work?
@@TurboGroszek1 No. The 3090 does though.
@@TurboGroszek1 SLI doesnt matter as it will be used for Deep Learning.. more Graphics Power = more power for deep learning
@@TurboGroszek1 Deep Learning requires multi Graphics processing power... in SLI GPu memory is mirrored not stacked so not relevant for deep learning
Finally. Computer to play minecraft with shaders in 4k 265+ fps
I would recommend a larger res tube for a bit more coolant volume but thats not so big a deal as having a 2nd pump to make sure the fluid is always in motion.
ep that pump is small even compared to our body vs heart 😂
How to build PC that makes no sense at all
You lack imagination. This build makes PERFECT SENSE for SEVERAL applications. Gaming is not one of them.
Is one MO-RA 360 enough for those components? I doubt highly.
It Will be enough that's 2 120mm space for each 4090 and 1 120mm space for the CPU that's thinking they would all be hit at the same time Wich is unlikely and also they're running the system at stock speeds so the power draw won't be that high
Awesome setup. I would just change the WC parallel conections by all serial -> much better flow pressure.
What? The end goal is flow, not pressure. Parallel will provide better cooling. By the way, he installs four of gpu so they can work in parallel. He could supply same amount of task to one gpu in serial but in parallel they do the same job faster. Different areas - same principle. Parallel splits the task
@@eee8662 Low pressure => low flow. Water will flow fast to the last block (due to pressure by gravity) and almost none to the uper block of the splitter.
@@rodrigocunha34
1. The rule "low pressure leads to low flow" is correct when resistance is constant. I.e. if you have only one gpu. You can achieve higher flow by increasing pressure.
When configuration changes - not one gpu but 4(!) Of them - you can not use that the same measure stick (pressure) that was in Internet references use for one gpu.
Consider this: you can decrease the pipes diameter (or better yet plug them off completely to see the point) - the flow will approach zero but yea, at least you will get the high pressure.
The lesson is: yes you increase the pressure to achieve the high flow, not the other way around. Going serial - is that other way around - akin plugging pipes off - you will kill flow but skyrocket pressure.
2. Role of gravity. My intuition tells me it will be negligible here. If any. The easy way to prove - to put meter on each gpu and see.
3. Quick thought tells me - gravity will play no role at all - the amount of water that goes down is equal amount of water that goes up. I may be wrong about this however.
4. You may be correct that there may be different amount of water going to each gpu but that is not due to gravity but rather due to distance from main radiator/pump ports. The way to fix it - system must be symmetrical..
Bottom line - you want it symmetrical and parallel.
Serial - will kill it.
@@rodrigocunha34 And. Don't forget the temperature. Symmetric-parallel will ensure each gpu gets fresh cold water from pump.
Serial - the last gpu in line will get hot exhaust water warmed by three of those gpu before it.
@@rodrigocunha34 if resulting water flow is less than desirable - he must use more powerful pump. Or even several pumps. But. No way GPUs be connected serially.
When your PC needs its own Mitsubishi split unit AC. Fuckin hell.
The only words that come to mind when looking at this machine are plasma welder or rocket plane. Good job 👍
THreadripper Pro 5000 CPUs support 8 channel memory so performance is reduced with only 4 sticks. However, I expect RAM performance is secondary for this PC.
well he uses 4 sticks DDR4-3200 mhz without a heatspreader wich is kinda old and bad for a build like this
@@Managarm1999 it's ECC memory they can't go as high because they made for 0 tolerance and in rigs that need to be on 24/7
@@Managarm1999 Heatsinks on memory sticks are there for aesthetics and branding. They are literally not needed whatsoever since DDR3 came out.
@@yanni-duff tell that to ddr5
man just imagine having a business case to build and have a system like this. that's the dream. Also, I probably would err on the side of using a tad more thermal paste. better to have a little extra then having too little
I can't even imagine a business case where a system like this would be preferred over a good computer and a separate render server in another room
Wow, I am in shock after that. I wonder if the combined power of those GPUs can be utilised at once or is it just for show?
that would be a fat azz no, this is made for whole home whole damn office / neighborhood etc networking from single point machine closed away in the shed for heat
@@mybsite5697 homie just explained a server
This machine is not a gaming rig, it's a deep-learning AI workstation.
Seems like a pretty good budget friendly option
Budget friendly? That setup is probably worth more than my life
Still lags on Minecraft
Astounding level of performance... I spend $4000 on my comp, and this build completely blows my rig out of this dimension.
I dunno dude, how are you gonna use 4 4090's, sli is dead, the only thing i can see this thing being useful for is machine learning, like the only other reason to have more than one gpu is because you are running linux and want to have a dedicated gpu for windows, that's why i have a 6950x and a 4090, and the only reason why i even need a 6950x for linux is because i got 4 4k screens which just use too much vram when i'm even just on the desktop, other than those 2 reasons there is no point in having more than 1 gpu, let alone 4 gpu's lol
@@MrTurbo_ I completely agree that it's overkill and almost useless, cool nontheless.
@@MrTurbo_ Well like you said, this is probably going to be used for machine learning. In which case it's an absolute beast of a machine. I highly doubt someone bought 4 4090's to play games.
After effects, blender, Unreal Engine 5, Premiere Pro, Cinema 4D, And houdini All at the same time under max load lol@@MrTurbo_
can it run crysis
15fps
Cool build, those 4090s look normal sized without those monster coolers on them :).
That big radiator reminds me of the big copper car radiator i used back in the early 2000s, compared to then there is so much cool watercooling gear, i have not had a watercooled PC for a while but seeing stuff like that makes me want to again.
any one else just shed a little tear watching him pull apart those 4090's
I love building PCs WITHOUT RGB 😍🥰
But there was rgb, all set to rainbow puke 😅
But can it run Crysis?
Lmao it sure can. My gooch got super wet for this pc
Чудовищная конструкция О_О"..
( В наилучшем понимание и смысла слова )
В наилучшем? Взято дорого и богато, а по факту умрёт через пару дней
WOOW! That.s a zillion times beyond the IMSI 8080 I built in the 1970's! That room definitely need A/C!!!!
To this day it still blows my mind how small the naked 4090 without all those massive heatsinks is. makes the crazy prices some websites want for this graphics card even more crazy
Piękna maszyna ! ! !
ale chujowa
Teraz żeby zrobił 8 rtx 4090
Неплохой вариант для отопления малосемейной квартиры! :D
In 5 or 10 years it will be $260 obo on craigslist.
2 years ago I built a similar one, also with MO-RA on Ryzen 5950X + 2x rtx 3090 ti, but in white colors
Can't wait to pick this up on marketplace for $500 in 10 years.
Show me the gaming test 🔥🔥🔥
Yes mom, i need this to make my school presentation.
that naked ram scream "this is for a grown man with important job"
Good entry level for middle school homework
I can watch this all day, every day.
Came for the build, stayed for the music
"yes mom i need it for online classes"
nice build, great job! What model of waterblock is this ?
I wonder if it can run gta 27 1080p low settings
Mom, that is what i need for my online classess.. 😂😂😂
bros gonna dry his cloths with his quadriple rtx 4090 fans bruh💀💀🥵
This is good productivity build I think. For editing and rendering.
Finally. I have two GTX 1080Ti And I love it. SLI is beautiful.
This is a very solid budget build. I will recomend this to my friends
He's definitely trying to reach mars with that build
I expect this rig to actually bend reality.
I want to see this running World of Peppa Pig
Legend has it that the flow still hasn't come full circle due to massive flow restriction
I have a question ! If RTX 4090 does not have nvlink, then what is the use of installing multiple RTX 4090?
this is what i want to know
to my understanding its impossible to use them all at once on one task but maybe you can run four different tasks at once one on each GPU
idk though
We'd love to see the benchmarks.
What are practical applications for four 4090s?
Behold 75 fps in rust. On Max graphics.
Ну наконец то я нашел идеальную сборку для того чтобы поиграть в 3их Героев
man i would love to have a pc like this. this my dream right here
Average epic games graphics designer PC
Dude wanna host the entire internet. Lol, but seriously what a build 😮
I have seen a similar build used in stable diffusion projects. really powerful! but you will need nearly a terabyte of RAM too.
You mom: why is my car overheating?!???
You: look what I made! Had to borrow your radiator tho… thx 🍻
This doesn't make you the best gamer but you got the best resolution in town
Nice setup for Half-Life 1
Thing needs it own dedcated breaker. Its like 380 something watts per card under load, 5995wx is probably pulling another 300/