It was hard for me to see why the 7th is flattened in the relative minor scale. But after counting all the intervals (using both hands and squinting with both eyes), it finally penetrated my thick skull. (I love the video editing you have done here BTW. Very polished and professional looking video!)
Thanks Ricky! I appreciate your time and effort to create these. One question, in the beginning of the video you state that you “derive the major key from the minor”, isn’t it the reverse? It is my understanding that major is the “most important” so every key/mode is derived from major, no?
You know I’d have to rewatch that bit to check. There’s so much swimming around my brain and slip ups happen and I’m researching for a modes video. I’ve been battling with the idea that Dorian is the most ancient scale and maybe even Lydian. So with that in mind the Major scale could be seen as a mode of Dorian or Lydian. I’m just trying to figure out if that helps or confuses despite it being fact lol. Needless to say the weight of a scale depends on the focus put on it and because modes including minor(aeolian) are really inversions of the same cycle of notes. So yes you can derive a “relative Major” from the minor but the bastardisation of the minor to get there can be seen to be ugly.
I started out thinking I was following along just fine, and the next thing I knew, I was as lost as last year’s Easter egg. I am a visual learner; HOWEVER, with this type of instruction, I feel it MIGHT be easier to comprehend if it were paired with video/audio footage of what is being taught. As someone who is trying to learn guitar later in life, this stuff seems very overwhelming.
In the Lydian mode, shouldn't the B (4th) be flat instead of sharp? You never taught us the secret of the B#; Only the BaconCrisp and EggsFried ditties that worked for me. A C flat and F flat in Aolian (G flat is Ok)? A C# and F# would give the FFhFFFh pattern we want. The Bb (Minor) would then be a full step to the C so that we have the Major form of FFhFFFh we are supposed to have ? Please let me know where I am wrong in my statements??? I also love the format editing that was done on this lesson. And IF what I said above makes any sense then I understood some of the lessons I've listened to :)
Hi Marcel. You’re trying to work out the F Lydian scale with the F Major scale. In C Major the 4th is F and that is the root/tonal centre of F Lydian. I shot another video yesterday to give more context!
Use them ears! Go looking for them on the neck, The faster you find it the better, it’s a trust yourself and know your scales well enough to each when the note changes and then having your fingers follow your ears, If you know the structure or scale the melody references well enough it should be straightforward
@@rickysguitar No confusion here... I don't think you realize your typo at 12:06 that I was pointing out The Bb major scale shares the same notes with G minor, its relative minor: ... The Bb major scale has two flats: Bb and Eb... the G minor scale has two flats: Bb and EB... I don't think you meant to, but at 12:06 you flatten the 7th note, as well as the the 3rd and 6th...
That’s because I’m showing you where the minor scale formula comes from starting on the 6th degree of the Major scale. It’s absolutely correct and not a typo. Like I did with the previous examples. The minor scale has a flat 3, 6 and 7
@@rickysguitar Okay, I see now what you mean... the G minor scale has a flat 3, 6, and 7 when compared to a G major scale, which has an F#, so the 7th would be flattened to an F... I have a good understanding of modes and their sharp and flats compared to the major scale of the same root note... I was not following your explanation correctly and got thrown off by your juxtaposition of the G minor scale with the Bb major scale, both with two flats, but missed that you were comparing it to the G major scale... I thought I had caught you making a typo... my bad, lol. Out of the bazillion music tutorial videos on here, I appreciate and enjoy yours the most.
Ricky, these lessons are simply phenomenal. “Modes are just an inversion of the major scale” = “Oh”
THAT WAS AN AMAZINGLY LOGICAL WAY TO EXPLAIN IT!
Eyup Ricky, many thanks. This is a good and understandable explanation. Together with your 'Key Signatures' video, things are slowly coming together.
Great lesson. Thank you
Thank you Ricky.
It was hard for me to see why the 7th is flattened in the relative minor scale. But after counting all the intervals (using both hands and squinting with both eyes), it finally penetrated my thick skull.
(I love the video editing you have done here BTW. Very polished and professional looking video!)
Yes, I had to think about whole steps and half steps to agree to flatten that 7th
Thanks Ricky! I appreciate your time and effort to create these. One question, in the beginning of the video you state that you “derive the major key from the minor”, isn’t it the reverse? It is my understanding that major is the “most important” so every key/mode is derived from major, no?
You know I’d have to rewatch that bit to check. There’s so much swimming around my brain and slip ups happen and I’m researching for a modes video. I’ve been battling with the idea that Dorian is the most ancient scale and maybe even Lydian. So with that in mind the Major scale could be seen as a mode of Dorian or Lydian. I’m just trying to figure out if that helps or confuses despite it being fact lol. Needless to say the weight of a scale depends on the focus put on it and because modes including minor(aeolian) are really inversions of the same cycle of notes. So yes you can derive a “relative Major” from the minor but the bastardisation of the minor to get there can be seen to be ugly.
I started out thinking I was following along just fine, and the next thing I knew, I was as lost as last year’s Easter egg. I am a visual learner; HOWEVER, with this type of instruction, I feel it MIGHT be easier to comprehend if it were paired with video/audio footage of what is being taught. As someone who is trying to learn guitar later in life, this stuff seems very overwhelming.
Video coming soon!
In the Lydian mode, shouldn't the B (4th) be flat instead of sharp? You never taught us the secret of the B#; Only the BaconCrisp and EggsFried ditties that worked for me.
A C flat and F flat in Aolian (G flat is Ok)? A C# and F# would give the FFhFFFh pattern we want.
The Bb (Minor) would then be a full step to the C so that we have the Major form of FFhFFFh we are supposed to have ?
Please let me know where I am wrong in my statements???
I also love the format editing that was done on this lesson. And IF what I said above makes any sense then I understood some of the lessons I've listened to :)
Hi Marcel. You’re trying to work out the F Lydian scale with the F Major scale. In C Major the 4th is F and that is the root/tonal centre of F Lydian. I shot another video yesterday to give more context!
How bout to playin every melody in any song? How should we do to begin boss?
This is a good idea for a video. I'll save your question and address it in upcoming content.
Use them ears! Go looking for them on the neck,
The faster you find it the better, it’s a trust yourself and know your scales well enough to each when the note changes and then having your fingers follow your ears,
If you know the structure or scale the melody references well enough it should be straightforward
I'd need to watch this 3 or 4 times more lol
I do not understand why in the minor scale you are adding a Flat on the 3rd , 6th , 7th (B minor)
The b3,b6 and b7 is the interval distance from the scale root note. Do you understand intervals?
You're applying the flats to the A major scale to get the A minor scale.
Ricky is doing his best to teach me, but I drop when he dropped F. Between E and F notes is half step. If you drop F, it comes E. Yep, I fall..
Bb/Gmin has 2 flats, Bb and Eb... there is no flat 7th
I think you’re confusing the Major scale formula with the minor scale formula
@@rickysguitar No confusion here...
I don't think you realize your typo at 12:06 that I was pointing out
The Bb major scale shares the same notes with G minor, its relative minor: ...
The Bb major scale has two flats: Bb and Eb... the G minor scale has two flats: Bb and EB...
I don't think you meant to, but at 12:06 you flatten the 7th note, as well as the the 3rd and 6th...
That’s because I’m showing you where the minor scale formula comes from starting on the 6th degree of the Major scale. It’s absolutely correct and not a typo. Like I did with the previous examples. The minor scale has a flat 3, 6 and 7
@@rickysguitar Okay, I see now what you mean... the G minor scale has a flat 3, 6, and 7 when compared to a G major scale, which has an F#, so the 7th would be flattened to an F... I have a good understanding of modes and their sharp and flats compared to the major scale of the same root note... I was not following your explanation correctly and got thrown off by your juxtaposition of the G minor scale with the Bb major scale, both with two flats, but missed that you were comparing it to the G major scale... I thought I had caught you making a typo... my bad, lol. Out of the bazillion music tutorial videos on here, I appreciate and enjoy yours the most.
I was tired, the sun was in my eyes, and the ball took a bad bounce... 😁