How Good is the Base 2022 Specialized Stumpjumper Alloy?

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @michaelandrews8647
    @michaelandrews8647 2 роки тому +52

    I’ve had this bike for about two months and it’s pretty great! I bought this model specifically because i plan on upgrading everything over the next two years. I like to tinker with my bikes, so it wouldn’t make sense to buy a higher end model. I’m surprised by the base setup though. Everything works pretty well! The rear shock and brakes are probably the weakest link. This thing definitely needs some 4 piston brakes. Other than that, this thing shreds! It rides like a Cadillac and gets off the ground pretty nicely. Is not the most playful thing in the world, but i have a feeling that can change with some lighter upgrades. If you are looking for a short travel trail bike that can do just about anything, you can’t go wrong with this one!

    • @newttella1043
      @newttella1043 Рік тому +2

      I rented this bike on a short work trip. I was pretty impressed. The weight didn't really bother me either. Mind you the shop was really good at maintaining their rental fleet and adjusted tire , fork, shock pressures properly for my weight.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 7 місяців тому +1

      How is your upgrading plan progressing, still happy with the Bike? :)
      Cheers

    • @michaelandrews8647
      @michaelandrews8647 7 місяців тому

      Very happy! I basically rebuilt it from the ground up. I used a marzocchi bomber z1 at 150mm in the front and marzocchi bomber air in the back. I replaced the drivetrain with sram gx. I used magura mt5 brakes and i put on Hunt Endurowide wheels. I also installed a cascade link. It gave me a bit more travel in the back. I ride a lot of chunk and needed the bike to be a bit beefier. I probably spent way too much on upgrades but it was well worth it.

  • @turningoveranewleaflawncar952
    @turningoveranewleaflawncar952 Рік тому +7

    Great overview on this Stumpjumper! I just purchased one from my local dealer and can't wait to ride it! It's getting dialed in for my body size and going tubeless. I had a Rockhopper 29 that I bought in 2020 and after riding that bike hard I decided to sell it and go full suspension. I also love the dropper post as a standard item on this bike. I bought the matte black stumpy.

  • @mikeandrews7551
    @mikeandrews7551 2 роки тому +5

    Very good review. Nce to see the low end get some attention, instead of the usual 'works' that no one can afford.

  • @justinnieves984
    @justinnieves984 2 роки тому +7

    I love mine! All those entry level components are helping me build my sons bike. I said I would replace them as needed but I completely stripped my Stumpy and upgraded every single part. Now it's an AMAZING bike.

    • @ProjectLabz
      @ProjectLabz Рік тому

      Is this a great bike to build on since it’s a base model?

    • @Liam-ub5gj
      @Liam-ub5gj Рік тому

      i just got mine yesterday :) what would you recommend to upgrade the brakes and drive train with.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Liam-ub5gj the rear shock, the rest seems fine.

  • @CourtyardPigeon
    @CourtyardPigeon 2 роки тому +6

    I have the 2022 Stumpjumper Pro full carbon.....was almost $10k.....couldn't believe I spent that much money on a bike, but I love it....love love love it

    • @jefm32
      @jefm32 2 роки тому +1

      Congratulations. I will never be able to afford that.

  • @andyfpt
    @andyfpt 2 роки тому +11

    Nice review. I have the 2021 and think it's a great bike. The only miss is the Eagle NX, it's just too slow down/up and a bit finicky so I'll be swapping for the Eagle GX. Suspension is good for the riding I do, I'm not super aggressive and it smooths out rough trails, logs and rock gardens nicely--- I frankly wouldn't know what to do with all the other adjustments that come with upgraded versions. I really like the geometry and the bike climbs well with the stock tires. The brakes are fine with good modulation and stopping power despite some reviewers complaining about them. Sure if I did tons of downhilling I might swap them out. Aside from the derailleur upgrade the only other thing I'm doing is turning the flip chip to the high position to give that a try. I'm 5'11" and the S4 is good for me and I think the S3 would be fine as well.

  • @dayinnymtb
    @dayinnymtb 2 роки тому +4

    I got this bike last month. It is a solid bike and a lot of fun to ride. I went with the base alloy because there was nothing available in my size south of $6K. I upgraded to a GX derailleur and DPS Float Performance Elite. I am planning on putting a GX crank and Dub BB and that’s about it - I guess aside from the fork that would spec it above a comp alloy when I’m done. Definitely worth getting if you want to tinker and upgrade as you go. The frame is what’s important.

  • @dewindoethdwl2798
    @dewindoethdwl2798 Рік тому +1

    Got a deal on the basic and now upgraded to a higher spec for about two thirds of the equivalent. Love my stumpy❤

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 9 місяців тому +1

      I got a sale on the comp carbon. Love it, dream Bike!

  • @chrismiranda5648
    @chrismiranda5648 3 місяці тому

    I just purchased this bike for a steel and slapped a fox 36 grip x fork with a float x out back. Great starting point that just gets you out on the trails!

  • @replacement6386
    @replacement6386 Рік тому +3

    I have the 2021 version of this bike. I did have to upgrade the shifter, cranks/bb, and the derailleur. I gotta say, it's been great. Handles well, can do some pretty aggressive trails, but thennext thing to upgrade is the hub/cassette, and suspension 😊

  • @Cooldad310
    @Cooldad310 Рік тому +3

    Have this bike on a matte black. I've owned it for a few months and have been going to my local trail on the weekends! This bike has been great and everything held up fine. No complaints to be honest. I have been riding this downhill at 25mph and no problems, rolls on any type of rocks/terrain and brakes with ease. For $2100 you can't go wrong with this! I also had my bike shop convert the tires to tubeless! It's a must!

  • @Tackforkaffet83
    @Tackforkaffet83 2 роки тому +1

    Got this as my first fs mtb. Loving it so far on the wet rock and roots of south west Sweden.

  • @destinhook3826
    @destinhook3826 Рік тому +2

    Had mine for 3 months and blew the original shock in 1 month due to aggressive downhill/ free-riding. I definitely look forward to upgrading almost everything.

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Рік тому +2

      Buy the upgraded version

  • @aaronj8600
    @aaronj8600 Рік тому

    I love those tektro brakes. The ones on my kid’s giant xtc sl have been flawless for 10yrs almost and the bike spends it’s life outdoors

  • @andrewg6116
    @andrewg6116 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the review. I appreciate the extra info you include of all the bikes aspects. It's nice to see someone finally include the weight of a comlete bike!

  • @shanekelly5230
    @shanekelly5230 Рік тому +1

    I have a 2022 stumpjumper, it's a great bike. It jumps well and eats up bowling ball side rocks on a steep fast descent.

    • @code9k
      @code9k Рік тому

      Did you have any problems with the rear shock? And have you tried it on big jumps?

  • @Gumby905
    @Gumby905 Рік тому +1

    Bought it. Good price for a known brand full suspension. I liked it. Def some upgrades like the drivetrain and rear shock are a must but other then that just cosmetic like handles and pedals. Great bike. Screwed myself though as well bc right after i bought it sale went on a kona process for 200$ more with way better equipment. Fml. Oh well still happy ive always been a kona/specialized fan so win win

  • @waylinvanhalen
    @waylinvanhalen 2 роки тому +4

    just bought this exact bike best bang for the buck rides great - just got a flat already from thorns in our gravel though grrr lol

  • @kelceygoddard7717
    @kelceygoddard7717 2 роки тому +7

    I like that you provide the MSRP right at the top. I'm in the market for an entry level full-suspension bike, and I love my StumpJumper hardtail, but it's 20 years old now. I'd actually prefer to get a used rig with the modern geometry under $2k, but that has been really hard to find. $2650 is really the price for a decent ride these days?

    • @flashfive23
      @flashfive23 2 роки тому +1

      Yup. Crazy, but yup.

    • @MrMartinHattingh
      @MrMartinHattingh 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately, yes.

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 2 роки тому +1

      Have you looked at a Polygon?

    • @Bungle2010
      @Bungle2010 2 роки тому

      @@flashfive23 It's not though,

    • @prawnis
      @prawnis Рік тому

      @@Bungle2010 polygon t8 goes hard

  • @clint2627
    @clint2627 Рік тому +2

    What are your thoughts on this bike at $2099 versus the new Marin Rift Zone 2 at $2399 ? I feel like the Marin has better drivetrain and better fork.

  • @replacement6386
    @replacement6386 Рік тому +1

    For the 2021 the rims were tubeless ready. So I'm not too sure, but I think the 2022 are the same?

  • @nvire5202
    @nvire5202 2 роки тому

    I ride the 2015 Stumpjumper EVO FSR, even if it's a 2015 model, I still love it, Rockshox Revelation 150mm and Fox Float CTD Evolution 150mm and 27.5, love this bike even if it's a 2×10

  • @weslierouse8640
    @weslierouse8640 2 роки тому +1

    Is this the Gloss Ca White Sage/Black?? In their stock photos this color looks more like a mint green. In your video it looks more blue.

  • @MP19861
    @MP19861 10 місяців тому

    Top Fuel 8 or this? Thanks guys. Im debating between two of these bikes. Happy New Years.

  • @hambo76
    @hambo76 2 роки тому +1

    What did you think of the White Gloss Sage colour?

  • @coreymtb420
    @coreymtb420 2 роки тому +4

    Damn I don’t see the value in new bikes, power spline bottom bracket basic basic drive train specialized brand parts doesn’t add up to 2650 it’s hard to justify ….great review thank you

    • @Hardworkpays209
      @Hardworkpays209 2 роки тому +3

      It’s inflation This same bike was 2 grand 2 years ago when the 2021 models just started to hit the shelves I bought mine after the first price hike at 2250. They bumped it again to 2650 beginning of this year

    • @Hardworkpays209
      @Hardworkpays209 2 роки тому +1

      Just so you know 2021-2022 are the same bike

  • @MysticalDragon73
    @MysticalDragon73 Рік тому

    Nice video, ive been debating this mike or a marin rift 2. from what i can tell the marin will be a better buy overall and less upgrading needed.

  • @stellazhou-b2k
    @stellazhou-b2k 3 місяці тому

    Do they come with pedals, and you just have to put them on, or do I have to buy them?

  • @cabbynate
    @cabbynate 2 роки тому

    I have a chance to get this bike second hand for a song. Seriously I have paid more for a seat post and a derailleur. I think I'm gonna jump on it. Thanks for the review!

  • @cream8701
    @cream8701 2 роки тому +3

    Crazy that bikes looks kinda cool with the dork disc

  • @geraldgolen9157
    @geraldgolen9157 Рік тому

    Specialized now has the Stumpjumper Alloy ($2099) and Status (140 or 160) $2249. Which would be the better choice? Thanks for any thoughts and opinions.

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  Рік тому

      Totally different bikes. The stumpy is definitely the better choice for an all-rounder, but that status 140 seems like a nice bike if you wanted to get a little rowdy too

  • @LuboMirtchev
    @LuboMirtchev Рік тому

    I saw this bike on Specialized website for online order. I am not a hardcore biker and did not play around at all with my previous mtn bike. I am curious if I will be able to assemble it by myself being a casual biker. My other question is what size I should order - I am 5'11"/6" male about 210lb. I had a Stumpjumper purchased from a friend and I did not even check the size. He was a little taller, maybe 6'1"/6'2", and lighter. I just tried the bike and it felt ok, but again I don't know so much about bikes. I wonder if you guys can give me some advice.

    • @nn431xru1
      @nn431xru1 Рік тому +1

      You need S4. As far assembly I would take it to bike shop. They know what they’re doing and will adjust the way it should be. I got one a week ago…i love this thing. I do mountain trails and general riding. But I took the bike on some steep technical trails and it handled great. Good luck.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII Рік тому +1

      Go with the S4, I'm also 5'11 on a S4 Carbon Comp.
      MY personally recommendation would be go with the next "upgraded" version of the Bike, the comp model ( alloy or Carbon) if you can.
      And do *not* build it yourself based on wha you where writing :) You need the right tools and understanding how do do that which is something you can acquire over a couple of months but not from the start.

  • @Giywithcoolusername23
    @Giywithcoolusername23 Рік тому +1

    How does it handle when your just general urban because I do it a lot when I’m not trail riding I tried my friends 150 rear 160 front and it was smooth going down stairs would this be smooth to?

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII Рік тому +1

      Absolutely! Not a problem, a little less tire pressure and you are fine.
      I would recommend going with the Comp version of this bike personally, or take this bike if you plan to upgrade it over the years.

  • @Skipro
    @Skipro Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this video I am such an idiot out this bike together today and watched the video and realized I did something wrong that was really dumb..

  • @tedofuentes6525
    @tedofuentes6525 2 роки тому

    I want this bike so bad but even the base model is out of my budget. Hopefully i can find a used one soon

  • @zimsiq7994
    @zimsiq7994 Рік тому

    is it good as an enduro bike?

  • @stevemurray710
    @stevemurray710 2 роки тому

    I have a 2021 made in July bought in November. I only have 44 miles on it but due to a thorn and ?? I had to patch both tubes. The rims seem to be taped, the tape saying tubeless, yeah the official specs don't say tubeless. James weighed an orange one and got 35.76 pounds, this one was less.

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  2 роки тому

      I do wonder what makes up why they weighed differently.

  • @johanrr4
    @johanrr4 2 роки тому +1

    I have an older Stumpy ST from 2019 and the wheels look similar and I set them up tubeless with no problem at all. It would be weird if a newer version wouldn't work tubeless. Also I freakin hate the brakes

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn Рік тому

      4 pot are the only way to go. I'm 105kg on bike with kit. From australia

  • @williambreeze2659
    @williambreeze2659 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the breakdown! I don't think it's wise to get the base level of any item. Chances are you'll be missing too many features or have lower quality parts. Best to get one step up 👍

    • @hambo76
      @hambo76 2 роки тому +1

      It's frustrating because here in Australia, the jump to the Comp is nearly AU$2,000! If I were buying this, I'd sell the SRAM SX drivetrain and buy a Microshift Advent X setup - 10sp 11-48T is enough range, and then replace the brakes with a set of Shimano MT-520 four piston front and rear. That still leaves you with narrow wheels, an entry level shock and a heavy fork. Perhaps the used market would be useful here?

  • @volks321
    @volks321 2 роки тому +1

    How it compare to the fuel ex 5 ?

  • @waynebritten
    @waynebritten 10 місяців тому

    What would it be loke with xc wheels and tryes on it to race

  • @XqDezzy10
    @XqDezzy10 Рік тому

    why this bike wheight less than the orange one 2021 version in your another video? that video say 16.00kg , now is 500grams less... any idea?

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  Рік тому +1

      Lots of reasons. Most likely due to tires and build. The orange one had an older variant of the Purgatory Grid tire, my guess is these might be lighter. There is over 100g of grease built with a bike, so variations show. 100+ grams can be in what tubes are in the bike, especially when we think of the 2021 being a pandemic bike, cable brand & lengths could easily contribute 50g +/-, bottom bracket and chain choice - again orange one was a pandemic bike. And then lastly its a different scale that will contribute error one way or another.
      This is why I weight these bikes, all sorts of variables. While my weights shouldn't be taken as gospel, they give a pretty good starting place to see what something actually weights.

    • @XqDezzy10
      @XqDezzy10 Рік тому

      @@Jamesthebikeguy you are on point…. Nice thought!! So with upgrade it can easily go at 14,5 I think… great 👍

  • @jefm32
    @jefm32 2 роки тому

    A little bit heavy, "specially" (heheh) considering the price. How could i upgrade and get a few less kilos?

  • @edandeileen9468
    @edandeileen9468 2 роки тому +1

    Trying to decide between a stumpy comp or expert and a trek top fuel 8 or 9.7. I'm in FL, which is pretty flat but believe both bikes are fairly similar with the exception of the fork travel. Any suggestions? Thanks.

    • @dirtybird5773
      @dirtybird5773 2 роки тому

      Bro don’t get that for Florida

    • @LuiRenzo
      @LuiRenzo Рік тому

      @@dirtybird5773 could you give a reason why? I’m in Florida and looking to buy a Stumpjumper alloy base

    • @dirtybird5773
      @dirtybird5773 Рік тому

      First lemme ask what kind of trails you have access to. I’d imagine it’s all pretty much completely flat right? I was wondering if you need that sort of bike for what you ride.

    • @LuiRenzo
      @LuiRenzo Рік тому

      @@dirtybird5773 not really. There are nice technical trails with ups and downs. Definitely do t have drops like up North like New Jersey or New York where’s I’ve ridin before. That being said there aren’t major down hill trails here but def not just flat terrain. Have you ever ridin in Florida?

  • @brucemannjr
    @brucemannjr 2 роки тому

    I have a question will there be a ride, I like to know how it handles the trails?

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  2 роки тому +7

      Sadly, I don't know how to ride a bike. So you'll have to find another channel to see this bicycle ridden

    • @theymademepickaname1248
      @theymademepickaname1248 2 роки тому +6

      @@Jamesthebikeguy wait......What?

    • @alessandrocecere5738
      @alessandrocecere5738 2 роки тому

      Check out the pinkbike's field test 2022 about budget trail bikes. The stumpy is tested and evaluated in those videos with detailed specs and sensations.

    • @eyeballman2
      @eyeballman2 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jamesthebikeguy haha!

    • @hambo76
      @hambo76 2 роки тому

      @@alessandrocecere5738 Only conducted on super rocky terrain. No test ride so far on hardpack, flowy, rooty trails.

  • @ryanmartin9400
    @ryanmartin9400 Рік тому

    I’m looking at this bike and the bike has dropped in price . I’m in canada and they are selling them now for $3,000 CAD plus tax. I might pull the trigger since they have came down in price . A good all around bike for trails and jumps if needed

  • @theymademepickaname1248
    @theymademepickaname1248 2 роки тому +1

    I'm loving the reflectors.

  • @nvire5202
    @nvire5202 2 роки тому +1

    This bike seems really low spec for the price, like for 2.5k you only get a rockshox 35 and sx eagle and tektro brakes? Like that's a bit stingy tbh, for around the same price, Polygon Siskiu T8 features Fox 34 fork... so tbh I would never go for any brand new Specialized bikes, even if they are good bikes, still way too expensive!

  • @Storm____
    @Storm____ 2 роки тому

    Why is yours blue does the bike not only come in sage green

    • @Froppolo
      @Froppolo 2 роки тому

      On the Specialized site, the three color options are orange, this blue and a black/grey combo. I've not seen a sage green option.

  • @MaQuGo119
    @MaQuGo119 2 роки тому

    Does the Epic has no alloy frames?

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  2 роки тому

      Correct. No alloy frames on the Epic or the Enduro

  • @operatorone8862
    @operatorone8862 2 роки тому

    is it ready to be tubeless setting?

  • @nickking8317
    @nickking8317 11 місяців тому

    I want one

  • @MaQuGo119
    @MaQuGo119 2 роки тому +2

    In my shitworld country this bike costs 3,530.12 I need a greencard LMOA

  • @ivanbaires5727
    @ivanbaires5727 9 місяців тому

    Is this a $600 bike

  • @alfredosucre5669
    @alfredosucre5669 Рік тому

    Hi, I have been riding mtb enduro bikes for the last 14 years now. I have bought bikes from different manufacturers (Trek, Santa Cruz, YT). My latest purchase is the Specialized e-mtb Turbo Comp with an aluminum frame. First, the bike's quality/price ratio is one of the worst, if not the worst, in the market today... a very high price for the bike's poor-quality components. Secondly, their customer support is "WORTHLESS." It looks like people there are trained to reject claims! I say this because their answers show poor thought answers!
    Some of the problems with my bike:
    1) I had to change the original front and rear tires after a few rides... The tubeless tire sealants were licking all over.
    2) Within a year, the rear wheel hub collapsed... So I had to buy a new one.
    3) The latest one is that the whole frame shows a severe corrosion problem. It is growing all over it at an incredible speed.
    MY HUMBLE ADVICE... Run away from Specialized bikes. There are many good bikes out there with better customer support services!

  • @MrStingraybernard
    @MrStingraybernard 2 роки тому

    Good luck getting 1

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  2 роки тому +1

      My LBS has several in-stock and I think availability is getting pretty good.

  • @JC-pt2tw
    @JC-pt2tw 2 роки тому

    You should do giveaways from time to time!

  • @manuelito3930
    @manuelito3930 2 роки тому

    Kg?

  • @Eric-kn4yn
    @Eric-kn4yn Рік тому

    Brakes ,2 pot sux. SX bad reviews. Get next version up

  • @bassw1758
    @bassw1758 Рік тому

    Yeah, then spend another $900 +/-, on a BBSO2 and 52v 15ah battery, and you take a dookie 😂 all over the Turbo Levo snobs for around for around 3500

    • @Jamesthebikeguy
      @Jamesthebikeguy  Рік тому

      Sounds like a pretty cool bike after you're done with it

    • @bassw1758
      @bassw1758 Рік тому

      @@Jamesthebikeguy some day, though I think I would use a 27.5 *2.8 Diamond Back full suspension

  • @maycondeivisferrari7422
    @maycondeivisferrari7422 2 роки тому

    PLEASE ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; GT FORCE 2022

  • @snarp408
    @snarp408 2 роки тому

    Do NOT buy this bike! I've been riding it hard for 7 months now and have replaced the derailleur, rear suspension, shifter, crank, bottom bracket. If you're just using it to ride easy trails, sure
    But if you plan to hit anything technical, or progress shop elsewhere! Either spec up for the comp version or get a YT, Polygon or other brand that sells better components at this price. The derailleur and bottom bracket are TRASH and BOTH gave me major problems within 6 weeks of riding.

    • @honeybadgerbaseball2
      @honeybadgerbaseball2 Рік тому

      It has a warranty tho on everything lmao

    • @snarp408
      @snarp408 Рік тому

      @@honeybadgerbaseball2 that's not how that works. Took it to the Specialized shop and paid for a new BB. They covered labor.

  • @thegreat1548
    @thegreat1548 2 роки тому

    Good bike for kids 🧒 lol

  • @diegovillacrez8349
    @diegovillacrez8349 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely overpriced for the spec.

  • @frankapple4130
    @frankapple4130 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty much every component is crap for that price. Pretty good tires but that’s about it.

    • @Chris-de2qc
      @Chris-de2qc 2 роки тому

      They gotta make money somehow lol. Fuse same thing...used to be $1400 and now for similar it's over $2000. Specialized is crossed off my list now.

    • @IIISentorIII
      @IIISentorIII 2 роки тому +1

      @@Chris-de2qc ok kid, now remember dinner is at 7 so don't be late again!

  • @alabaster4263
    @alabaster4263 2 роки тому +4

    Don't do it people the sx drivetrain is trash and the breaks are useless

    • @andyfpt
      @andyfpt 2 роки тому +2

      The BRAKES are fine unless you are doing tons of intense downhill. Swapping to the GX Eagle is fairly inexpensive to swap out and definitely would recommend doing the swap. The frame and geometry is outstanding on this bike.

    • @siggismalls6269
      @siggismalls6269 2 роки тому +3

      dont compare it to more expensive bikes.
      for under 3k $/€ its a great value mtb.

    • @alabaster4263
      @alabaster4263 2 роки тому

      @@siggismalls6269 you act like I don't own this bike and had to to replace a bunch of parts that broke because of cheap quality and ended spending at much at the comp alloy.

    • @siggismalls6269
      @siggismalls6269 2 роки тому +3

      @@alabaster4263 what did you ride with this bike ? i own a Stumpjumper 2022 and it does the job well for its price.
      its not comparable to my Rose ThrillHill, but that bike costs over 3k more than the Stumpy...
      I had some Giant, Focus, KTM & Canyon bikes in the past and the Stumpy is the best allrounder for under 3k you can buy atm.

    • @snarp408
      @snarp408 2 роки тому +1

      @@alabaster4263 I own this bike and I enjoy it but I'm kind of disappointed w performance. Wish I spec'd higher. What do you recommend replacing first? I'm thinking rear shock and brakes