Stay With Us: Evangelizing the Disaffiliated
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Friends, among the largest problems within the Church today is the massive disaffiliation of our own people, especially the young. In this lecture for the University Series, I reflect on the religiously unaffiliated by answering these three essential questions:
- Who are the “nones"?
- Why are they leaving?
- How do we get them back?
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I have observed the amazing increase of young people's attendance in the traditional Latin Masses! Thanks be to God!
I am a firm believer in the Catholic Tradition. Please don’t be offended by my statement Bishop, but I am very surprised at your attitude Re: the Latin Mass, I was a follower of you for a long time, but now I am turned off by your latest attitude. Christ taught us the Truth and it cannot be changed. If you have changed, and by your attitude I believe you have, my prayers are for your conversion back to Christ’s Truths. God bless you and keep you safe.
@karen so has the traditional movement. They're exploding in attendance during the COVID pandemic.
@@louisehuberty490 my problem with the latin mass is that it is in latin. why would it be latin and only latin? mass is only interesting to people and believable to people if they can understand it. if they can't understand it they will leave in many cases.
@@louisehuberty490 Would you please clarify what changes you have experienced with Bishop Barron? I will pray for you, that you stay strong and faithful.
Well done Bishop Barron. I just thank God that I hail from a country where it's unheard-of to be non-religious.
Where are you from?
@@ChowMan144 perhaps India and poking a nose on the good Bishop Barron?
Dear Bishop, I thank God for the gift of socialmedia and the internet because through these I am able to watch and listen and interact with you.
I’d love to share my testimony with you, Bishop. I was once a youth that placed my faith in science and, 20 years later, I’ve finally come home because my soul was famished. How can I be of service to the work you do?
What a testimony!!!
Share your story, Cassie! Would you like to be a guest speaker for our Women's WorkLight group?
Faith and science? Do those two really go together?
@@ding9633 Hello! Hope life finds you well :)
I would say in one respect Faith and Science have different goals.
Science is tasked with answering questions of how things work and what they are made of. Even if we want to go to the big questions - how was the universe made. How did humans come to exist.
Faith on the other hand seeks answers to “why” questions. Why does the universe exist? Why were humans made? Why do I exist? Why is there something rather than nothing?
Although these affairs are different, I would say they depend on each other.
Science proceeds down the road with the assumption that things can be known. That there is an orderly universe with “laws” established about how the universe works. These rules don’t change haphazardly from day to day. It also travels on the assumption that there is something meaningful and good about finding out how things work and how to make life better.
But Faith recognizes the order and organization and predictably of the universe and says why is it so? Why would such a universe exist? Why would all this exist if there wasn’t some purpose? And if there is some purpose and intelligibility, then doesn’t they point to the possibility of something that created it? And if so, do we also recognize other “laws” - not physics and such but natural laws about what it means to be a human with a life. Things like “life is precious and should be protected especially from malevolence. Murder is evil. That evil exists. That people are susceptible to moral corruption. That we do not find meaning and value and purpose from looking within.
Would love to hear your thoughts on these beginning comments.
Great Bishop, I am always reminded of the great Fulton Sheen each time I listen to your teachings
I wanted to get up from my chair and cheer when Bishop Barron denounced the dumbing down of the faith. I disaffiliated for some years until engaging with the Church intellectually brought me back. Finally learning what I refer to as the "Why's" behind Catholicism not only brought me back, but made me enthusiastic and eager to learn more.
The intellectual side of catholicism is what drew me from a protestant background to coming into full communion this coming Easter. Hard to argue when the facts are so convincing.
The thing that made me convert was the reverence and mystery. Catholicism in movies is always shown with incense, icons, statues, beautiful architecture, chanting, Latin and just overwhelming mystery, compared to the Protestantism I was used to.
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@@blackfalkon4189 there was a ton of that stuff in Jesus time. Did you read the Old Testament ? All the Jewish temples of Jesus time and before we’re decked out in gold, used liturgical incense, and used tons of sacred symbolic architecture. Plus they had the golden cherubim statues and stuff like that. Catholicism is very much the continuation of OT Judaism
@Lucid. Agreed. The traditional movements have exploded in attendance (especially the young families) during the COVID pandemic. They never knew such beauty is still alive and thriving.
I went to a bar mitsfa. And they had a tabernacle with the logos, the word ,in it.... the Torah!!!! And we have the tabernacle with the word, the logos, made flesh!!!!!’
Amen
Love the man whose asking Bishop the questions, God bless him
I love Word on Fire's materials and community. Very helpful for evangelizing within parishes.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
is it only because I am old .... 68, or do others find themselves listening to these lectures, these teachings of the Bishop over and over .... to get it all down. I agree completely, I was for a long time on the school board of one of our local Catholic grade schools, my son went from pre K 3 to 8th grade graduation .... he is now 25 and he graduated with maybe 125 students. It is shocking, shocking shocking to see how many of those young people are totally disconnected completely from the church ... and many from religion. I often think about how to fight back ... and to the best of my knowledge even with the many older nones I know ... MANY .... they did NOT LEARN FAITH .... they do not believe and have never been taught how to believe. They really do not get that knock and the door will be open, seek and ye shall find ... they do not get that really means prayer .... If you want to meet God, if you want to know God ... you gotta talk to God ... period. Word On Fire should I think focus on what we have ... Catholic education ... our kids are gone from my sons generation because as hard as I fought .... it was really barely a Catholic school at least based on the Catholic schools I went to .... of course I was in the 6th grade before had my first and last lay teacher until highschool. Make our school INCLUDING UNIVERSITIES Catholic again... They are NOT!
our textbooks were even Catholic in the 50s and 60s .... it was great ....
I am 76years old.
We learned by first mesmerizing prayers and the catechism Q&A.
Then by middle school we were learning Church history.
The mass was broken down so we knew what was going on.
We also learned about sanctifying grace ...etc. okay we need to respect their questions. Get the answers.
@@karenglenn2329 and ... we went to mass every single morning... Monday through Friday ... first thing... church ... donuts and milk due to fasting .... school. It was a great life ... we really liked the free donuts!
Jerry yes every day mass.
We brought a bagged breakfast. That meant the smell of hard boiled eggs.
The boys took turns serving mass.
@@karenglenn2329 yep I was an alter boy too ... Latin at first then it later changed to English. Oh cinnamon roll was much better. LOL!!!
The unaffiliated that I meet are not leaving, they have never been in a church or part of a faith community.
I was in a unaffiliated household my mom an agnostic atheist my father a German Lutheran, my mom's parents were both Catholic so that is just wrong implying the unaffiliated
@@EnlightenedHeart01 I wonder if your Mom understands all the beauty & grace she kept from her children....it must break your Maternal Grandparents hearts... may God grant a loving & wondrous path to His Trurh ... 🙏🏼✝️
I grew up Catholic but I wasn’t Cathecised well. Not until my divorce, and my children became adults and left the church did I start searching for answers. My children would ask me questions about the church and I had no answers. So I started praying and asking God to help me. I started listening to EWTN and GRN on the radio. Mother Angelica helped me so much to understand the church. All the hosts on EWTN radio taught me so much and informed me about the church. I went to a retreat at the shrine in Alabama that mother Angelica founded and the priest there were so amazing . This place was a big part of my mind and heart opening up to learning more about being a Catholic. I think if all our priest were like the priest in Alabama shrine our our young would not leave the church.
I think we all need to be accountable as well in wanting to find those answers. Some of us are not ready or willing to say Gods will not my will. I didn’t realize that’s what I was doing when I wanted to do things my way not the churches way. I just thought how can so many people be wrong. I had to look at myself and make choices that were not popular. Thank you Fr Barron. I pray for you and all our priests.
As a ordained minister I appreciate what Bishop Barron says. He is a very highly educated individual. Whenever he speaks, people will listen. I thoroughly enjoy the dialogue and communication that he provides to all of us throughout the world. We are in a battle of Flesh versus spirit. We were given Free Will and that is why we have so many problems today. Lack of proper morals and values from the parents and also social media causing many emotional and mental health issues. This was written in Psychology today magazine. What needs to happen is God needs to be back where he belongs, number one in our life. We need to think of him and not ourselves. Reverend Timothy Michael
Yes the social media brought me back to the church
You give me hope! I pray you persevere.
@Huxley Axel sounds mighty spammy
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Me too. The Pope asked couple years ago on Twitter, to say one Hail Mary a day. Before I knew it I was saying the rosary and going to mass.
@@jaqian that's so awesome!
A wonderful quote:. "Justice, is love in public".........💓
Great talk! Barron convinced me that evangelization is a priority.
Thank you very much for this talk. I really liked it and agree with all of it. I have grown children and nieces and nephews who are "nones." Other than praying for them, I am stumped on how to approach them on this subject. Social justice teaching by our Church might be the door to discussion. Thanks again, and God be with you.
A few years ago at the beginning of my college years, the availability of all the true, catholic teachings that Bishop Barron provided really drew me back into learning and increasing in my faith! Dumbed down faith was boring! I’m so glad that I went searching deeper!
Yes! Bishop Barron is so sincere and on target in his recommendations. It was the kindness ( charitable attitude) of a white male parishioner and beauty ( incense, etc.) of a Holy Mass at Langley AFB that drew me, a 4 1/2 year Afr American girl to my aunt's religion, Catholicism, at the age of 4 1/2. I was smitten when the male parishioner put a beautiful chrysanthemum on my little dress coat. It was the beauty of the miniature plastic cathedral that my aunt had brought from Spain, where her husband had been stationed. And the lovely mantillas she wore to church. Finally, the children's catechism type books that I obtained from her and started reading at age 8. Charity/ social justice, beauty, and clear, non-diluted, Catholic catechism is what attracts even the very young. And, not the least attractive is the mission to truly evangelize, and not just in CCD and trips to Haiti. No true mission in our community ( outside outside of food pantries, etc.), no true church.
Bishop Barron, I so appreciate your comment on your argument to embrace our "beauty of the Faith"! We were stationed in Italy for the US Navy in Napoli. We visited Roma over 8 times. Florence (Firenze), Venice (Venezia), and Bologna. We dedicated our visits to seeing the Catholic sites...the cathedrals...having confession actually offered in English! I would watch my wife in wonder as she prayed at each location...to visit the St. John Lateran...St. Peter's Basilica, St. Paul Outside the Walls, St. Mary Major (my personal favorite)...I just hope people can have these same opportunities...
Bishop Brown The solution is within the selection of priests, should be quality not quantity. Minimally, they should be friends of our community. You know this first hand father. I am in a poor South American Country and I could see first hand how priests that are simply friends move mountains. Down here we move mountains with details. Father, it is really simple. This is from a "fool for Christ". You are looking at this intellectually, dumbing down, you are reducing this intellectually because you are an intellectual. How about teaching catechism with priests and others who simply love. We don't know our religion. It is not in Aquinas but on who teaches it, who lives it. You are an intellectual who lives your Faith and that is why I love listening to you. Thank you Father.
A way in is DEFINITELY through the Saints! The Saints were my thread of connection to the church when I "stepped away". I always stayed connected to the Saints (specifically St. Francis of Assisi).
St. Cecelia ✨🙏🏼✨
I'm an Anglican, but I have watched a few of Bishop Brennan's videos. It's the first time I've ever seen a Bishop 2ho can really connect with people (no disrespect) i look forward to watching more. Also, the fact he is from the US, (I'm British) adds a bit to it. I very much like his style which I find quite refreshing.
What a great method of trying to stimulate the "Church" in order to reach out to those "None" brothers and sisters who are swimming out in the deep ocean seeking to be rescued.
Is right Your Grace, how to engcorish young people never leave in the church, community must care each other, and parents olso must engcorish them and prayer for them, so the faith be more, stronger...that i do with my 3 children all teenager, so am so grateful they grow up with in church, and kisd join with youth community....every day prayer rosary, Divine mercy to ask mother to protact them from the evil spirit,...
I pressure my son to participate in certain things, precisely because I know that once he does it he will experience the great benefits and joys of having participated. And in the future in his freedom, he will not depart from it. So who is truly free, the one who knows the joys of an action in deciding whether to partake, or the one who knows nothing of the joys when deciding to partake?
We need to have the power for evangelism!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today we are in the desparate need for the evangelizing power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️😄😘😄😍😘😘😘😘♥️😘
Gathering the eschatological community is the essential mission given by Christ.
Why are they leaving? Because we are throwing out the reverence, the tradition, the baroque art, the chants, the symphonies, all of the wonderful historical beauty, and replacing it with things like "diversity" and political correctness.
The only hope for this faith's survival is to return to our traditions before its too late.
They are leaving because, like me, they are waking up to the fact that there is insufficient evidence to justify a belief that it's true.
Reductive thinking always confirms itself into more and more limitation over time, and you can witness how this has caused liberalism in America to become more and more fixated on a narrow margin and to vilify the mainstream majority. Dis affiliation is part of how vile and polarized our political system has become. Anything you care about you apply discipline to, and I thank God that he allowed me to see that in my twenties. I think most people realize it much later.
My friend Lawrence Tod Larmer ,St. Lawrence,was voted in one year as a member of the school board in the Allentown School District. They pounced on him for many things,but he hated the most how they pounced on him for recommending Latin as an important language for many reaasons.
Bishop Robert 'Fulton' Barron
I don't think that Barron, will be too keen to be associated with Sheen. I suggest that you read why his beatification has been permanently suspended.
He asked the best questions
Pastor, lead us!!!
True father verified through and through by those who have eyes to see.
PLEAse have every DRE/ Coordinator of Religious Ed and all all catechists should have this required viewing/ listening. My wife and I tried to improve our catechism in our local parish and our DRE aggressively quashed it and had 8th graders coloring pictures and putting stickers on their attendance chart. I wish I was kidding. :-( As Bishop is saying, it's a self inflicted wound.
I totally recommend Brandon Vogt's book, Return.
The Second Vatican Council created a simulacrum of Catholicism. The world desires the most authentic expression of spirituality.
"Them and us " is the opposite to non dualistic language. I suggest you have a look at some of Fr Richard Rohr's talks on this subject.
Bishop your presentation a few years ago at the LA Religious Education Conference on the Good, the True and the Beautiful could be a good resource.
The pope, most of the bishops, and priests like Martin better stay with US, since they, for all purposes are the ones who have left Jesus and US ...
The only way to reach any of the currently ''disaffiliated'' without creating many of future disaffiliated from within Christian believers , who might walk away because of the false doctrines being preached as the new progressive or synodal ways of the Church, IS BY LOVING THE FLOCK IN TRUTH, AND TEACHING THE TRUTH IN LOVE TO THE WHOLE WORLD...Time for Bishop Barron, and those German bishops to read the warnings of Pope Leo IX , who stared his pontificate as liberal , to later change for the good of The Church...Let Francisco know...Shema!!!
As you probably know, Jordan Peterson fills a 10,000 person stadium, mostly with young people, mostly men, speaking for 2.5 hours about Old Testament bible stories--he straddles a line between Religion and Science, without discounting the metaphysical or literal truth of Scripture. How would you like to pitch that as a business plan: "I'm going to travel the world talking for 2.5 hours about the psychological underpinnings, and worth, of Old Testament Bible stories, mostly to young men."??? I saw your interview with him, so I know you are aware of him. I read in the comment sections of his videos where many of his followers are joining the Church, and many of them are joining the Orthodox or Roman Catholic Church. He is doing a lot for the Lord, bringing many people to Christ. I myself am joining the Catholic Church (62 year old woman) after many years as Protestant, because Christianity needs to last--it's the foundation of Western culture. I'm aware that Catholicism is growing in Africa and South America--Catholicism will last. All I can advise is to watch Jordan Peterson and analyze what he's doing. I know he has some doctrinal problems, but I advise the Church to analyze what he's doing. And he doesn't water stuff down, he keeps is challenging. I think young people need a CHALLENGE, AN ADVENTURE--don't water it down and make it easy and thus meaningless. On a less serious note, I will say, as a former Protestant, ya'll's music makes my skin crawl. It's the cheesiest syrup soaked most embarrassing stuff I've ever heard! That won't stop me, but it really is embarrassing. I agree with you that you should emphasize the Saints--especially Saint Francis. I came to the Catholic Church through Richard Rohr, St. Francis, St. Bonaventure, CS Lewis, GK Chesterton, Pope Francis, Jung, and Jordan Peterson. And Scripture! And the absolute Beauty, Coherence, Delicacy, Multi-layered Meaning and Reading of the Faith and Scripture and Sacraments. I agree with you--challenge people with the intellectual beauty and coherence of the Faith. People think Christianity is for Stupid People. They have no idea how beautifully and absolutely it cohers. It's stunning.
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Oh, poor him having shingles...my grandmother had... usually shingles you have from stress, as I remember well...
I agree.♥️♥️♥️♥️
Bishop (and team) please start adding CC in additional languages to the video. I think it would be very helpful.
Great talk and Q&A!
Better still why aren't we giving her Dorothy Day, Julian of Norwich, Hildegard of Binge Joan Chittister, Catherine Doherty, Elisabeth Schussler Fiorenza, Chiara Lubich?
Re: All Male Clergy/Woman Priests -- was this issue a choice in the surveys? a weakness of surveys, research analysis and other types of studies is observer bias - ie if they aren't looking for it they may not see it; and researchers, especially in psychological studies, tend to find what they are looking for, even if its not there or is not significant.
@@dan69052 That stuff about sexual orientation being determined in the womb is fashionable, but not considered a scientific fact by experts in the field. It may or may not be true but not proven.
Thank you. GBU. AMEN.
its true I live here
In my opinion I do not see why people can’t see Tradition attracts more than anything else. Treating God as God in the mass and teaching Aquino’s philosophy brings the Hole Spirit to do His work. Traditional mass was bringing a lot of young people back, but the church not only is not noticing that, but is working against it. It is also aligned with the degradation of the situation since Vatican Council II.
... a bridge for sciences and religion: may be try and understand: Bernard Lonergan's "Insight - A Study of Human Understanding"
I really appreciate the role of the Grand Narratives of Western Civilization, including the Bible and Catholicism, for my morality and ethics. My free choice of disaffiliation is because I feel, just like Jordan Peterson, that the factions of Religion all have the human flaws of sanctimony, arrogance, and intolerance. I also feel, just like Jordan Peterson, that the new factions of abortion, race, ethnic, gender, and so on, are new Religions and also have the same flaws of sanctimony, arrogance, and intolerance. As a result of all of their flaws, many of these Religion factions are now in a culture war with each other and that culture war gives these factions meaning and purpose.
In other words, as long as the fighting of the culture war persists, disaffiliates like me win bigly. As long as these factions find their meaning and purpose fighting each other, that keeps the factions busy and they leave me alone and disaffiliated with my own well being. As long as these factions spend their resources fighting each other, I survive as an individual with the well being and free choice of disaffiliation and therefore I avoid being sent as a disaffiliate to an internment camp for reeducation.
There is one aspect of your "suggestions " (good as they are), that i found missing -face to face socializing, a basic human need. Very few young people (especially teen agers) ever have a relationship of any kind with old folks. Thus they do not have any understanding of how we (I am 88, earned a doctorate in classical philology and taught for several years, now living on my own - a whole different area) handle our aging: with acceptance and spiritual growth or anger and fear. And. . . Even how our Christ
Nice talk Bishop. These are all difficult issues. I expected much less from you and you surprised me positively. I'd like to submit some of the things that come up to my mind, not really well thought out..
1. Never trust surveys to much. Ppl respond what they have in mind at the moment, not really what drives them to make choices. There's some research on the topic, including some surveys, of course. I mean, you certainly have to keep in mind the result of well-conducted, honest surveys, but you needn't take them too seriously, much less take them as the main driving argument or decisive criterium. Do you think St Paul took a survey before starting teaching the bethren ? Do you think Kant was very attentive to survey results ? Or would any of them be if they were provided with such results? Would Jesus care about surveys ?
Consider also the difference btw opinion expressed in surveys and 'demonstrated preferences' ... etc
2. Struck me that not one time (I think, might be inexact) appeared the words Jesus, Love, Gospel in your talk. Again, dont take me seriously. I still enjoyed it and have no decisive argument how or were to include them. But I think I know why they should be there: If we dont come to those 3 ideas, I dont see why we should not ALL disaffiliate right away, including yourself. You see, to follow your point on not dumbing down our ppl, the key question should be WHY being a catholic is even desirable. Give me a good reason WHY to be a catholic and the next door Joe will outsmart us in finding 100 ways on HOW to do it.
3. I agree that the most critical issue would be on the relations science-religion. THAT'S a hard one. Unfortunately we've been for too long playing down and mocking the only guy who seriously addressed the issue: Aquinas. And I don't mean that the answer he gave should taken today at face value, but you get it. Its really a hard nuclear problem and strikes me that we've been treating the guy really bad..
4. Getting a little more into the issue, I really don't think that the social justice message is the way into modern mentality to return to religion. Not sure why ... Maybe 'cause religion is a radical appeal to the needs of the individuum and nothing you say about the colllectivity can fully satisfy those needs? I mean, of course Theresa of Calcuta was a beacon and best model for all to follow, and many are brought to true religion by her deeds and those of ppl like her. But still, social justice as an argument, dont think it even touches the human soul. Not sure though. But remember Jesus' approach was always personal and individual: Go sell your posessions and give it to the poor, then come. On public policy, He was very 'eclectical' to say the least (To Cesar what is his own; to God what is of God).
On an empirical sidenote, do you know of any country were true religion and true social justice mentality have coexisted for any moderately long period of time on a non-coercitive basis?
The topic is interesting and complex, but would never address it simplistically. It's an instance where what ppl tick in the surveys might not fit what their inner thoughts are. Maybe because what is just and unjust, there's just too thin and wavy a line inbetween, and we don't yet fully understands. Wishfull thinking never helped, not even consensus wishful thinking. Maybe the subconscious knows pretty well what the conscious ignores, namely that you cannot just steal from someone to give to another and remain so happy about it... There's plenty to weigh and balance, but certainly the social justice issue would not be an adjudicated one, yet.
5. And lastly, I would end on a positive, constructive way. I would add to all your five excelent recomendations this very simpe one: Religion is all about leading a good live in a full rational, loving way. So lets never forget about the 2 essential things starting with L: Love and Logic.
(Dont remember where I got it from, maybe Francis Sales?).
Thanks again for you nice talk. Apologies for my pedantic boring post.
So Good 😊
Intellectual evangelization is in part because not enough Cathechists have ever been to Rome, much less studied in Rome. It should be absolutely required with the job description: a pilgrimage to holy sites in Europe or the Holy land every three years. Buy ticket if you really believe this.
As a scientist, I don't believe there is a conflict! Science explains that God created a scenario so complex that a Higher Being had to design this scenario! Man or chance is not capable of this design.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
Love love love the Bishop. But. Don’t listen to what they say. Watch what they do. The music, the prayers, the commune feel at the ordinary Mass comes off as a comic book also. The traditional mass grabs them because it’s grave, deep, quiet, and communicates the timelessness of the RCC - not stuck in a 60s and 70s language music and culture time capsule.
Technology, Social Media, Wokeism, play the largest part in this exodus. Also the youth tend to think they are the smartest person in the room, ( part of being young), and "I want to do and be the exact opposite of who my parents are", cause of course they are so uncool and a bore! But as one gets older u tend to reassess somethings, and look back on things u were taught in your youth....
What does he think is the number one????
The Catichism says that God is neither male nor female. Why then would God require office to be restricted to males.
Yes. I was nevr even hired Full time permanently in an Castholic High School or university while they hire all kinds of lay people from even other countries that know nothing right even about learning.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
Alkitab adalah pedoman penghayatan dan pengamalan dalam tindakan kita sehari-hari Amen. 🙏✝️🕊️
Jesus will tell GOATS on Judgement day "I NEVER knew you". NOT "I knew you until you disobeyed some guys in Rome"
If your offer to sponsor a good student to get a PhD in Theology so that he can focus on social media evangelization is real, I'll take you up on the offer. Already know Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic.
I love to hear that the number of nonreligious people are growing.
I never left the church, I thank God
for my mom, grand parents for their
faith and how it affected my entire fam. Praise the Lord!!
God bless parents and grandparents that live out their faith. A wise Lutheran pastor told me that faith is caught and not taught! Right teaching is important but more important is to let your light shine before all.
why doen`t trinity never mentioned in bible,
I would also say that Catholic parents need to step up too. One reason I became disaffiliated was because of my parents- they couldn't answer some of my questions and I had one parent become disaffiliated too. I realize not everyone has great, stand-up parents but for those of us who have a relationship with them I wish they did more at the time. This will no doubt become a generational thing in the future- those who are not affiliated will have kids who won't even have the chance to really get involved with the religion in begin with.
Perhaps God gave YOU to your parents to lead THEM TO CHRIST! I'LL be praying for you
I am Catholic now, but I was an atheist until my mid-twenties, then went through a “spiritual but not religious” phase. This led me start looking into various faith traditions, including Buddhism, Islam, and various Christian traditions. I had been evangelized to by various protestant denominations, with all their threats of hell and promises of the great things I would get if I joined their church, and it completely turned me off. I sat down with a Catholic priest, and told him all the reasons I would never want to be Catholic and was just hoping to learn. He gave me some reading suggestions and told me a list of all of the things I would have to do if I was interested. It was the first time any faith had said “I’m not trying to talk you into joining, and if you are ever interested, you’ll have to do all of these things first.” I was intrigued. It was a long road into the Church from there, but that was where it started. I went through RCIA with a group of folks in their late teens and twenties. It seemed that they were afraid to ask questions. For me it was a serious thing, and I asked some pretty heavy questions. I never had a question that didn't get an answer that was better than I expected (even if some of them took some time to sink in). I don't think the Church discourages questions, but people don't want to be rude or seem like outsiders, so they keep their doubts to themselves right out of the faith. The Church could do a better job of encouraging questions and destigmatizing doubt, especially among the young.
bless you, its ppl like you that make ppl like me
Biblical christianity is coming to jesus NOT a tradition. there is no perfect christian organization. THERE IS A PERFECT SAVIOR and the Scripture. people who try and join the right church to fit their taste and liking are missing JESUS and his word
Send your children to parochial school.
@@flamingrobin5957 hi, since the Catholic Church gathered up the various scripture verses in the late 300' s after the Roman Empire persecutions to form the Bible, then wrote it by hand for another thousand years for each community to have a copy( one steer would provide about 16pages), we teach and affirm the Bible. Without the Eucharistic meal, people could stay home and read the Bible, but that would deny John 6, where Jesus claims you must eat His flesh to obtain eternal life. The Protestant churches broke over Henry VIII & Luther letting Greman dukes multiple marriages.GBY
@@dan69052 Is it wrong to cheat on one's spouse? Even if you have hormones and an attraction? Even if this other person is totally your type and your attraction is predetermined? I won't get into any argument with you about sexuality, where and when it is formed and etc, because I think it's far too simplistic either to call it a choice or determined entirely in the womb. What I will say is that I disagree strongly that right or wrong is predetermined by our natural desires and attractions. I am attracted to and have a natural proclivity for a great many things that would be terrible for me and those I love - that in no way releases me from any moral obligation to practice self-control in those areas. You have better arguments to choose from.
I believe Bishop Barron is doing God’s will. Ever since I started following the Bishop, I have been going to mass more and studying to evangelize. Keep up the good work, Bishop Barron. We are listening and acting. Thank you.
How can teaching that Jesus is not required for salvation (in this life) be "doing God's will'? Just how can that be?
@@davidbeal8054 your statement is provoking. I have not finished the video, but I'm curious where the bishop makes the statement that you assert, namely: Jesus not required for salvation.
bishop Barron has a pretty famous (notorious) video in which hw explains at some length to an on-screen questioner that faith in Jesus as our Redeemer is not the only way to Heaven but merely "the privileged way." Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; and no one gets to My Father, but through me." That's as far as I can tell still Catholic doctrine.
Now, I don't doubt that Jesus Christ has the power and the Mercy to allow non-Christians into Paradise. But how He chooses to do that is one of the Mysteries of the eternal + Universal Judeo-Christian God. And given the Catechism and the Magisterium, it is unclear how a mere bishop can go around assuring non-Christians "Don't worry; you can still get into Heaven." That's not a bishop's business.
This argument, often referred to as "bishop Barron's privileged way", is one of the reasons why many traditional Catholics do not hold the bishop in any high esteem. (There are other reasons.). bishop Barron likes to limit his teaching to the Nice Guy/Wise Teacher version of Jesus. Jesus Christ was both those things, but He was primarily the Redeemer-Messiah-Son of God. --- and faith and salvation is a treasure beyond measure, but at a price. Part of the price is saying things not everyone will like (such as "Jesus is THE WAY not the privileged way.). Barron is just one of so many contemporary bishops who clearly prefer being popular over being strict about what the Bible, the Magisterium, and the Catechism teach. Or, what the Apostles and early Disciples understood and taught. Whadd'ya think Saint Paul would have thought about the phrase, "Jesus is the privileged way"?
I encourage you to watch that video; it's very easy to find. Judge it against what you know to be Catholic. -- not against what you think is nice. For 2,000 years it has been well understood that being nice to sinners, and nothing more, can be a nice + wide path to Hell. When Jesus encountered sinners, He did forgive their sins. But He also said very clearly, "Go, and sin NO MORE." People who preach only the Nice Guy/Wise Teacher version of Jesus, like to leave that second part out.
@@davidbeal8054 I suspected your initial comment was a snipe.
I saw a video a while back where the Bishop answered this question. The context I recall was not an "evangelical" assurance to non-Christians, but an answer to a questioning person's inquiry about how our God can be a loving God, yet doom all non-Christians to Hell because of their birth situation.
That video was from the Word on Fire channel. I'll try to go back & watch again, but I can't inventory all his videos and find one where he preaches to non-Christians that they'll go to heaven.
I don't get the basis for your third long paragraph. Clearly you didn't watch this video.
My understanding -- substantiated in this video, your snipe op -- is that the Bishop's primary mission is oriented to 1) retaining the Catholic young people educated in modern schools and 2) drawing the _nones_ in. It would be -inappropriate- _ineffective_ for him to *lead* with the Magisterium.
I'm not going to change your dim view of Bishop Barron. I suggest solve the disagreement this way: You draw to Christ as many non-believers as you can. Let the Bishop draw to Christ as many non-believers as he can.
In the end, you both will have done your level best to fulfill your commission.
May I suggest, though, you develop techniques other than sniping at believers that you don't like. Internal divisiveness is one of the things that really turns people off from religion.
Good on ya, Jason! I didn't learn my lesson until I was nearly 50 about how critical it is to keep oneself oriented to God. _(from an ex 30+-year atheist)_
The whole sex thing does make me less willing to evangelise. At work so many people are living with somone outside of marriage or on a secound/third marriage or in a gay relationship. They, and I, know if they were to accept church teaching in its entirety it would mean giving up the person they love. I am happily celibate but even saying "Would you like to come to mass" to these colleagues would be difficult. It's a huge hurdle they have to jump right from the start.
Sometimes doing the hard thing and being honest with someone is hard to do . Yet it is always the right thing to do even with ourselves. Thank you for sharing. God bless you.
Show them the beautiful and then leave it to God to work the miracle
well for the people on their second and third marriage, they are allowed to stay in that marriage if they convert to catholicism while in it. I don't think divorcing is ever a requirement to become catholic. for the gay relationships that is a bit tougher.
Bishop Barron, Thank you for your words on Disaffiliation, I belong to a Bible group lead by a Catholic evangelist Kerry Bueche. Your homily had helped me to see how I can discuss my Catholic faith with my grandchildren.
I was an atheist then I met someone who loved me as I was, gave me the freedom to ask questions. The intellectual was really important. Especially reading CS Lewis, Chesterson, then Augustine. Also I am an artist and the Church has art hands down.
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Thank you Bishop Barron I do really appreciate this talk. I pray for you and your ministry. I'm from India I would love of Bishops from India to have this very promising kind of presence in media to all our youngsters who stay away from faith life in the catholic churches.
Pray and bless us your children
Thank you
Please talk to your Bishops and priests in India
You have plenty of them on the internet. 😀🙏
I was brought up catholic but left years ago for some of the reasons Bishop Barron mentioned but especially because I felt spirituality couldn't be found in catholicism. I have stumbled opon many of Bishop Barron's videos, his knowledge of religion, philosophy and his understanding of my generation in regards to religion, spirituality etc. has shed light on misconceptions I had. I have been doing some of my own searching and slowly but surly, I'm coming back by my own choice.
Coincidentally - read St.Teresa of Avila.
My story is similar to yours, and I found myself reaching out to my old church this Christmas Day, may we strengthen with the Holy Spirit on our journey home.
to God be the glory
@@sataystick3937 indeed
Welcome home.
I've been a subscriber since the 1st Covid lockdown & I get the daily readings, sermons & books sent to me Co.Cork, Ireland
I feel so blessed listening to Bishop Barron's words of wisdom, your research into the readings & gospels, that I would never understand on my own! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the hard work you put into evangelising ! If Covid did nothing else, it helped me find the Word on Fire 🔥
May God bless you all as you continue to save souls! 🙏
I am from Tipperary and understand so much more from listening to the bishops sermons.
I grew up in a family that said the family rosary every night and daily Mass was encouraged. All four of my siblings have stayed faithful.
Wow.... this is amazing content for all those who want to do something but don't know what and how to help our youth into faith. Thank you "Word on Fire Institute", and thank you, Bishop Barron.
I'm a 61 year old Catholic, my father always used to say to me, look to God he is the one that will look after you, through my teens and early 20's and beyond I did what I wanted to do, after my divorce 37 years, I looked to God and you know what God was there to pick me up and move me forward, but you have to tell God your all in.
Yes, I second that. That was my experience too... that He wants you to be all in.
My parents had be baptized when I was a baby but then left the church, this year I rejoined the church on my own and just did my confirmation, I have never been happier
I am so happy you have found your way back to our Catholic family. God speed.
Shingles is awful. Been there, done that. My pastor had it too and still traveled back and forth to Chicago because he was trying to help a lot of us get back on our feet after physical health disability. He's a saint! God bless you, Bishop Barron. God bless Father Dietrich, as well.
Beautiful talk your grace, John Polkinghorne was someone I encountered right at the height of the new atheist evangelisation. He demonstrated to me the synthesis between faith and reason. This exchange inspired me to read theology at university, and now I'm training for the priesthood in the Church of England. Sadly, I have heard that John Polkinghorne has passed away yesterday. His son gifted me with a stole once owned by John Polkinghorne, and I shall wear it for first mass when it comes, God willing. May he rest peace, and rise in glory.
Thank you for heeding your call sir to the priesthood. You are one of the chosen ones to minister to this world. Praying for you.
Thanks for your journey! Who knows if the Church of England could one day be again with us. Even so, God bless your paths, my friend! From a Brazilian 🇧🇷 catholic.
Oh, God rest his soul! I was raised Anglican before converting to Catholicism after an fairly long journey through the "none-ish" territory. I loved Polkinghorne's work on how science and religion are totally compatible. I referred people to him a lot ! He debated Richard Dawkins once and he was so filled with joy, especially given the juxtaposition of Dawkins, that even before listening to the arguments I feel you were inclined to want to be like Polkinghorne between the two, and then he had the intellectual and logical chops to make the better case. He was a great man. I will add him to my prayers.
It is joyful to hear your story. Thank you. You are blessed.
We’re losing them because a watered-down/anything-goes ecumenism appeals only to the morally and intellectually bankrupt.
I was brought up a loose Protestant hardly ever attending church just occasionally. I can say that praying for the agnostics is one the best thing to help draw people in . I found Christians coming into my life of all denominations at important stages I would imagine through someones prayers. I became a Catholic later in life , when I was introduced to the Rosary it had a big impact on me. I think good Christians can bring people to faith just by prophecying Christianity in everyday life. I had tried Scientology, Budhism and Hinduism. Only Christianity specifically Catholisism spoke to me and offered real hope. I think the Bible taught more in Schools and more Bible study for Catholic Children is needed. We can go to Mass or a Service and not understand the Significance of Prayers, the Eucharist, the Bible readings if we dont understand the Bible. I think the thing that keeps and grows faith in other religions such as Judaism, Islam and some Christian Churches is the Study of the Holy Books daily. We miss that with once a week Mass attendance and families taking kids to Church only for Baptism and Confirmation, I see this practice a lot. Being told to read the Youcat instead of the Catechism doesnt help, its like you say people want the real books not the Comicl books. I must say a Jehovas Witness showed me their online app with Daily Bible passages and its impressive.. My Parish has many reading the tri monthly Magnificat Booklet and its an essential for Mass attenders especiallly Daily Mass attenders.
"Nothing in the Bible ever happens outside of Prayer." - Bishop Robert Barron
You misplaced your period, should have been right after the word "happens".
@@JayBandersnatch
Outside of prayer, nothing in the Bible ever happens☆
@@marypinakat8594 sorry, what I meant was: "Nothing in the bible ever happens."
@@JayBandersnatch
What makes you think that I didn't get what you meant?
@@marypinakat8594 I actually did think you knew what I meant and was being witty, so I responded back half as witty as you did. 😎
Go back to old lessons ... why are we alive .... what is the mission or meaning of life? ..... To Know, Love, and Serve God! You work on knowing God, you work on loving God, you work on serving God and all will be clear. The most challenging part is knowing I think .... well think about it .. if you want to know you neighbor, coworkers, brother, cousin .... whoever .... what do you have to to .. TALK to them ... you want to know God ... Talk to God. What did that French saint in the late 1800s pray to sainthood .... something like "Lord if you exist, let me come to know you" ... well I guess God did.
Exactly, get back to the basics. They need to bring back the Baltimore or Penny Catechisms in schools and make them learn it by rote. That way the seed is planted in them at a young age and a foundation is layed that they can always continue to build upon.
@@lukebrasting5108 Amen Luke!
Bishop Barron has a special gift in welcoming the alienated back to the Catholic Church
It's so sad 😞 we got to Pray for them!! It's very difficult to make them understand, because they Faith is not strong, since they have been not thought and they don't believe 😔
51:15 Bishop Barron, i am a huge fan of your work. You were one of the main forces that drew me back into the church after being a lapsed catholic for almost all my life.
You can substitute the response you give at this time stamp with what peoples concerns are with removing the Tridentine mass. I know people get angry and vitriolic about this topic over UA-cam, but the concern comes from a very serious place. One could ask why is Gregorian chant, one of the most beautiful gems of the church, nowhere to be found in the modern church. Most young catholics have never even heard of it.
I understand, and very much agree, the Tridentine mass is not a panacea to fix every problem, but my goodness people are starving for beauty and transcendence, and it has a direct affect on their belief system.
I will follow your work now and always, my first time reading straight through the gospels was with the WoF bible. I don't bring this topic up in anger or an attacking spirit, just one revert who found their way back through you and then through the Tridentine mass.
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏 Mother Mary Pray For Us 🙏Abba Father Bless us and we Adore You 🙏Holy Spirit Guide us and direct our paths 🙏
Yes, Traditional Catholicism (pre-Vatican II) vs. post-Vatican II (which IMHO is more akin to Protestantism) is the Good, the True, and the Beautiful all demonstrate the Glory of Catholicism.
Bishop Barron, I think you have hit the nail on the head.. As mom of four kids two now young adults men 21 and 18 and two girls 15 and 9. I have been asking the boys to help me learn so I can reach out to them then in turn the older ones reach out to others but I do ask them to read the Bible to sign up online sessions that our diocese is offering. Asking them to challenge and come out of our comfort zones. Thank you for your guidance. Yes praying for them each day. Holy Spirit is definitely working through each one of us. I am talking from that experience of having a Son who is beginning to separate himself from our Catholic faith. I tell him. I love you and I will be that St. Monica praying for my Augustine in each of you. Go search within our Catholic Church the truth give yourself an opportunity. Don’t just go without actually doing the footwork. Thank you. I have shared it with my nieces and nephews. Also
Finding Bishop Barron brought me back after nearly a decade. He’s answered many of the questions and concerns I had. I listen to him on UA-cam almost daily.
Thank you Bishop Barron for this guidance. I am a catechist for teen Confirmation and your presentation can help me make it meaningful for the candidates. You will help me inspire candidates with the treasures of our faith!
I think it's a big help to get young people involved in Christian Social Justice - Get them involved in St Vincent DePaul, Homeless shelters, food banks, Habitat for Humanity - these organizations expose them to many believers.
Thank you very much. Though we are many catholics here that overflows the cathedral during masses. I am one of many that try to find meaning to why we do what we do. My grandma answered all my questions. So i stayed and continue to love our faith. ☺ ❤ from philippines
to God be all the glory.
Thanks Bishop Barron! Very insightful, as usual!😊