The Witches of Belladonna Cove (Sims 2 Lore & Stories)
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2025
- In this Sims 2 Lore and Stories video, we're visiting The Witches of Belladonna Cove - the Cordial Sisters. These twins have two secrets. The first is that they've made some mysterious new friends in the city and their lives are about to change forever. The second is their past, but I'll leave it up to you to decide if the rumors are true!
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Evil witches do not immediately turn green when they become a witch. They start shifting towards green the more evil they become. The skintone gets reverted whenever the sim starts to use good spells.
is completely correct
And what about the neutral witch who’s gray? Or that wasn’t referencing anything?😅
@@GamerGirl997Gandalf the Grey maybe? 😂
I dunno if anyone’s mentioned this but the concept of good witches shimmering and evil witches turning green was actually based on the novel, The Wizard of Oz! And it could also be a subtle hint at Wicked as well because Elphaba, while she is green, actively tried to push away the evil label until circumstances force her. I just love the numerous literary references in the Sims 2!
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The Sims franchise has always loved to reference themselves. I think in this case, they put a familiar dynamic from the base game and slapped the magic duality on top of it lol. They’re not meant to be Angela and Lilith, but instead meant to make you think of them
I actually have Angela and Lilith become witches when they attend uni.
Don't you just hate it when you're trying to become an evil witch but there are so many people on the sidewalk?
LOL! Just witch problems...
Fun fact! The Pleasant family in spanish is called "Gentil", which means the same thing as "cordial"
Pleasant and Cordial are synonyms in English anyway
When the therapist just came out of nowhere I LOST IT
I think there was a fire on the lot right before while Cindy was talking. That might of been one of Sam’s fears, sending her into aspiration failure.
I know everyone loves Pleasantview, but I have always played in Belladonna Cove ever since I got the Apartmentlife EP when it came out, still do. So I am always hyped when you do a video about it :) I usually don't like supernatural things, but the witches in TS2 have always been my favourite. I just love how they look and the effects they cast when they appear on community lots, also their astral cats are super cute.
Once Apartment Life came out I stopped playing regular houses altogether.
Not everyone loves Pleasantview. I always loved Strangetown more.
@@rawmilk905 the apartment gameplay in The Sims 2 Apartment Life is sooo good. Belladonna Cove is my favourite neighbourhood too.
@@antonpetrov1483 Same here 💚
Same
Did anyone else notice Kimberly wink at 19:06 when Cindy was saying, "I think they're more based on the story of the Pleasant twins". I'll take that as confirmation. 😂
do you ever plan on covering the downtown vampire lore in the sims 2? i always found the house of fallen trees home lot was interesting with its hidden coffin and mini graveyard! might be hard since there isn't much with the family being deceased and all ;;;
Between this and Plumbella's "Entire History Of..." series I'm always learning about Sims lore! I'd love to play Belladonna Cove someday.
I never play with occult sims so don’t know much about them, so am loving this! There’s so many layers to this game, I never noticed how similar the sisters house is to the pleasant house. Love it cindy 🖤
I love Bewitched! Found out recently it was my mom’s favorite show as a kid, though she watched it in Italian. The sisters almost look like the Pleasant twins with more correct genetics (with the Pleasant sisters not having anything of their mom Mary-Sue, I actually use replacement genetics for the Pleasant twins that gives them darker hair). Though honestly Kim and Sam actually fit good and bad twin more, Lilith is just neglected and goth, and Angela in my game always hurts her first. Kim almost always ends up with Frances for me. She usually will keep the house, while Sam kinda goes any way. Last time she landed her millionaire and practices magic more as a hobby. I love setting up the secret room with furniture, and have witchy cc to add.
I love this series! It’s so fun to look back on when EA actually put effort into the game!
This brought back some interesting memories. I remember sending a witch teen to university but he was getting behind on doing his homework so I actually used the spell to stop time. I also used it with another family so they could make breakfast at a reasonable hour and have time to eat it before leaving for school. I missed having that spell since it doesn't appear in any other iteration of The Sims. :(
I loved using that spell too, and all my knowledge teens became witches, and brought thrones to uni with them to study and skill.
Might be a coincidence with Pleasant sisters but in medieval Europe being a redhead was one of the traits that made people suspect an individual could be a witch
Not even to mention, cordial and pleasant are words with meanings that compliment each other! "Cordial: showing or marked by warm and often hearty friendliness, favor, or approval." "Pleasant:
giving a sense of happy satisfaction or enjoyment. (of a person or their manner) friendly and considerate; likable." They tend to go hand-in-hand! Cordial greetings are pleasant, for instance! :)
I was just thinking this too! I think, if the Cordials are not the older version of the Pleasant twins, then Sims 2 developers are certainly still trying to draw that sort of parallel somehow. Since Apartment Life was the last ep for the Sims 2 franchise, maybe they intended to pay homage to some aspects from Pleasantview by putting some similar sims/stories on Belladona Cove.
I started playing Belladonna Cove a year ago and Kimberly married Armand Debeteau in my save. They have 4 kids. I was actually just playing their save last night. She's gonna be an elder soon. Samantha already is(she married Gabriel Green). Playing rotationally takes so long, especially because I added CAS households to the mix at the same time I started the premades because I wanted variety and Belladonna Cove is the best Sims 2 town for that because its got so much space for Sims.
My headcannon is that they're alternate reality versions of the pleasant twins! It's in Belladonna cove, where Bella's presumably revered and I feel like that implies it's an alt universe where the pleasant sisters' doppelgangers grew up to be what they could have been in another life.
I always make the secret bookcase room into the *magic room* - something about secret doorways screams potion making and spell books!
Regarding the Cordial sisters and their similiarities to the Pleasant twins, I'm going to point out that "cordial" is a synonym for "pleasant".
i never noticed how they are kinda reference to the pleasant twins even down to the house! love these lore videos!
The Cordial sisters are alternate universe versions of the Pleasant twins
The Sims 4 could never.
well, "Cordial" in Spanish is synonymous with "gentle" or "Gentil". Gentil is the last name given in Spanish to the Pleasant family. I think this family is based on the Pleasant twins, but I don't think they are the same girls. Is just an awesome easter egg!
I love this videos!
Exactly what I thought! In Portuguese is the same!
And in French, cordial means friendly or at least polite :)
@@MarinaKaFai Same with English!
@@oodlemynoodle3753 True!
Ok but one thing- if I remember correctly, sims in the Sims 2 have actuall genetical information about their original hair color (can be wrong tho). If those are really our beloved red-heads shouldn't they have red hair genes still in script?
Btw Pleasant, you look awesome in those glasses
True I guess you could check SimPE
Fun fact, Bewitched was so popular in Japan, it helped create the Magical Girl genre in Japan.
Glasses look so good on you, you’ve definitely got the face for it! Can’t wait to watch this, Belldonna Cove is such a fun hood and I feel it rarely gets talked about so I’m pumped 😁
Before anything: You look so good with glasses on!!! Oh my, it suits you so well! I loved it!!
you made want to play belladonna cove now 😭 i forgot how good this neighborhood is !! thank you for this video!! 🤍
I love how TS2 set up story lines like this; to teach the players.
I am a witch irl and tend to gravitate toward witch lore in media. TS3 is the game that enticed me the most with witchcraft. Easy enough to become a witch and I love the genetics. I also like how in TS3, any sim can do alchemy but witches gain the skill faster.
I haven't played much of witchery in TS4 (though I love the spellbook!) nor have I played much in TS2...though I do like the fact that you have to learn from another witch in order to be a witch. I think what doesn't entice me is how black and white witchcraft seems to be in TS2...but now I know where to find me witches where I can TS2 and play around if the mood strikes :)
There are mods if you want to be able to skill up all the way on both sides of the spectrum, whereby you have all the spells in Sims 2. Sims 2 actually offers so many more spells than Sims 3.
I think they’re references to the Pleasant twins, like how the Roth family is a reference to the Goth family
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Yayyy, Cindy! Yesterday I had a terrible migraine which makes me useless the next day (had to call in sick for work) and I've been watching your videos and streams from the early morning. It's almost 10pm now lol. Thank you for another mood uplifting video!
The best sims 2 creator ever!!! Cindy is the only one who make me know more about the sims 2!!! and yes the sims 2 is always be my favourite of all time!!!
Well, cordial is a synonym for pleasant, so the Pleasant/Cordial connection is not far-fetched. Maybe it was intended as a heavy wink at the Pleasant sisters
I like to think that the Cordial twins and the Pleasant twins are like third cousins whose families used to all live in Pleasantview. (For example, Daniel and Danny could be like second cousins since we can only see their parents on the family trees, could be both named after the same grandfather! )
And when the Cordials saw what happened with Angela and Lilith growing up and how they ended up enemies, they decided to distance themselves from the twins and start over in another town so they would not end up enemies too! The references of Pleasantview make it hard to believe there's no connection! And I think this makes sense :)
Interesting theory. 👍
I love Bewitched as well! I always watch it with my grandmother when she's over at my house!
Yay a lore video! 😄 I love anything lore, I find it great to listen to as background noise and generally I find it interesting
Also have you seen the "secret" worlds that have the witches castles in them? I remember seeing it in someone's corruption/lore video, it was fascinating and buggy as hell lol
Yes, you can travel to the secret magic lots! I want to make a video about that too!
I only had 2 expanison packs and 2 stuff packs for the sims 2 when I was younger so I love to watch your lore videos about towns and sims I never had the chance to explore
I really don't know why, but when i play the Cordial sisters i always make the most absolute drama go down. First up i make them *both* mess around with Armand, and Kimberly also usually has a few flings with Carlos and Chastity, while Samantha tends to gravitate towards Connor more than Gabriel, altough she did one time date Armand, Connor and Gabriel at once lol.
I also usually make a female cat in CAS that i add to their household and headcanon it's actually an aunt of theirs (also a witch) that they accidentally (or not 😏) permanently turned into a cat and moved in her house in the Cove. They're so much fun!
Watching your Sims 2 and 3 videos gives me so much nostalgia of the good old days. Makes me realize how much I want to play those games again (but alas, my computer that has TS2 and TS3 died long ago)
your content always cheers me up. i’ve been watching your Sims 2 Strangetown twitch vods for the past few days, and they have been so entertaining lmao
I always get so nostalgic watching your videos. I need to install the Sims 2 immediately
I always make perfectly neutral witches.
I find their color scheme is the coolest
The twins give me the witches of the oz vibes
Belladonna cove is my favorite Sims 2 neighborhood! I am so sad i have a mac and Aspyr never ported Apartment life to the OS system. I'll legit buy a gaming computer just for the whole sims 2 collection and nothing else lol
same lol
I was able to play the ultimate collection on my laptop, but had to buy a gaming pc to be able to play Sims 3 again. Unless you like having a lot of CC, Sims 2 can run well on lower end PC's. I also had close to 100 mods in my game (but alas Sims 3 fried my laptop).
In my opinion, their story is just reminiscent of the Pleasant sisters; If they were Angela and Liliþ who had dyed their hair black after the events of Pleasantview, the game would still know that their hair is red from a genetic point of view. I have not checked SimPE for that, but I would imagine their hair would be just black there (and thus, their children would have black rather than red hair).
I had such a busy weekend and last week. Yesterday I really thought to myself, I need to watch some episodes of Pleasant Sims. To me they’re episodes lol. I’ll rewatch episodes. Search and watch ones I’ve never watched. Anything pleasant sims related. I really need to chill and watch PS episodes. Couldn’t watch your live stream this past Saturday and then you uploaded today. The heavens and Cindy have answered my prayers lol it’s going to be a good start to this week ! 🍕☕️🍹🥡 we all appreciate you going out of your way to give us this content!! I will also be heading over to watch your vlog videos on my tv.
When apartment life was introduced I went crazy over it lol and loved the witchy ness it included as well. My favorite EP besides seasons. I think these twins are an alternate version of the pleasant ones.
Why the devs create this kind of alternate versions of famous Sims in the other three neighbourhoods? Like the Roths, the Cordials… im sure there should be more
I would love to see a video of yours comparing the witches in the different games!
Also you're so close to 80k!! congrats!!
I don't think they're supposed to BE the Pleasant twins, but I could definitely see the Pleasant twins growing up to live a life like theirs. It might be fun to do that in Pleasantview sometime.
i love these of kind of series! and yes the descriptions and the insistent use of "pleasant" is a hint,maybe they're the same twins on a parallel reality
I really enjoy hearing the stories from past sims games. Thank you
Yeeeeees queennnnn. Back to lore and love. Also, amazing glasses 👓💖 they're my fav style, I use them all the time lol
Thank you! I really like these too!
Every time I’ve ever played Belladonna Cove, it always turns out that Samantha is the meaner of the two and Kimberly just minds her business; even after following their set storyline to make Samantha a good witch and Kimberly an evil witch. Samantha is always starting fights and somehow making people angry with her. Kimberly is always chill, I don’t understand it. It doesn’t matter what I do, if I start with them or not, that’s always how it goes
I never seem to see that, but I know for someone who is supposed to be shy, Samantha sure loves telling dirty jokes (perhaps the hidden popularity token messes with her psyche?).
I thought I was really weird for loving the Sims so much... I've been playing the Simcity games since the early 90's, and later the sims as well, but the one that I still play most is Sims 2. Thank you for your guides and info, but I especially appreciate you for showing me that I'm not alone for still appreciating the early versions of those games! :) Best wishes with all of your endeavors!
When we do the witch video could we also check out the beledona cove hard to find residential lot. In the (unlikely) event you don't know what I'm talking about it's a residential lot on the very edge of beledana cove, just outside the Normal visible neighborhood called watervista palace
I was literally just watching one of your sims comparison videos when you upload! I always get so excited when you upload Cindy! Your amazing!! Keep up the amazing work!!💜
Another interesting video, you are amazing Cindy!!!!!!!
omg i recently played the sims 2 for the first time since I was a kid and I just realised the two twins I was trying to get my Sim to flirt with were the Cordial sisters hahaha. I think she ended up getting along with Kimberly 😁
I love these lore videos you've been doing lately as well as your streams! I love putting them on to watch as I play sims. :)
I love your idea of them opening their own shop. I also play them differently than I would the Pleasant twin, but definitely see the over lap.
girl i am absolutely loving the glasses!!
anyway i've been looking forward to this lore video. belladonna cove is my fav sims 2 neighborhood!
ETA: I always pair the twins with the witches b/c i think it's more interesting and fun
This series is giving me life! And you look so cute and bewitching in the thumbnail, Cindy
Time to sit down, take a big hit from the bowl and listen to ms pleasant talk about sims 2 lore, missed it ❤️
oo congrats on 80k btw hehe
Ooooh yay more sims 2 lore we love to see it!
Cindy I absolutely adore your videos with all this lore and storytelling!
girl i love you are my calm app at night and my podcast during the day, keep slaying
every video of yours i watch i just wanna write an essay in the comments about how you make literally the best sims content online. and you’re easily one of the funniest youtubers i’ve *ever* watched 💕
Ohh I love the witches but sadly apartment life kinda crashes my game. Also you look cute with glasses!
This channel has become my comfort channel. Whenever I have long nights or I just need to unwind, I play your videos or streams. Thank you so much for what you do! 😄
I absolutely love these videos! The way u tell everything is so entertaining :D
Thank you for creating great content :)
I love your content right now Cindy! It's just soo full of your personality and you can tell the time and effort you are putting into each video!
I was so excited for a new lore video!!! Please keep them coming!
Love Belladonna, so glad you did this Cindy! I usually cram the magical stuff in their rooms but I liked your idea of using the secret room instead. For the twins - Since Kimberly likes vampires, I try to get her with either the count or the countess. I left Sam single but she got with Gabriel on her own, but I then realised she had more chemistry with one of the game's university pre made households (the Phineas something guy) .. so drama ensued as it always does with TS2 😂❤️
love these lore videos💖💖
13:56 she looks like The Mask
I’d love if you made a video about the Tricou family in Downtown, and that creepy house next to the cemetery! Perfect for spooky season 🎃
Yay for more lore! I love these videos and you do so much research into them! Always learn something new
Thank you as always
I find these lore videos extremely entertaining to watch. I did not know there was this much lore in Sims 2 until I discovered your channel.
I like the glasses :)
Your hair is looking so healthy Cindy! I watched your video about why you wore wigs recently. I’m so glad your hair is growing back so nicely for you ☺️
Okay, Cindy in glasses is BEST VIBE! So friggin' cute! As always, I adore you and your videos/vlogs. Keep em coming, doll! 😊
Aside from the video which is great but your hair looks amazing!!! It is getting better each day, Lots of love from germany ❤️
I love this new series of lore videos you are doing! I actually didn’t even know these two sims were implied to be good and bad witches. Thank you, Cindy and everyone that hekoimmkt
I'm gonna assume you modded your sims but they are looking absolutely stunning! The hair that Kimberly is wearing, I think that's the modded hairs I made one of my characters wear in Skyrim lol
Cindy, you look amazing! Great video, thank you!
i love these lore and stories videos! thanks, cindy! 😊
"McCulla"
Thanks!
love the content you've been posting on all your channels
I miss the witches from sims 2, they were so fun ! (Comment from someone who loves all games) I love the fact that you could be either a good witch, a neutral witch or a bad one ! You had also titles coming with your sims name, things to craft, Items especially made for witches (the chair that makes the concerned sims needs go higher, or if it's the wrong type (ex : good witch sititng on bad witch's chair), her needs go down ; then you could have a cat with you and you can interract with it !
And besides that, you could live in appartements and many other options, so yeah, for me, it was one of the pack I enjoyed the most on sims 2 ^^
Love this series so much! They are one of my fav families to play with, and I miss the magical alignment in the sims 3 supernatural
Once I had Kimberly married Armand and then let her hide her "witchy" stuff in Armand's closet and locked the door. Not long after, she died from childbirth. :) But at least she gave me two cute little girls.
Warning ✨story time✨
Couple of days ago, i was talking with my friend on discord, he asked me what am i playing. Then i said the Sims 2. He used to hate the Sims but i created my self and him and he really enjoy the game. I'm really happy i can change people's mind about this amazing game :)
Btw, good video as always Cindy ❤️
I’ve never played with witches in the sims 2 so this have given me some inspiration to dabble into it! 👌🏼
Great video! I really enjoyed this one!
A good video idea could be showing how you decorate houses or tips/tricks that you know about decorating or even building houses
I think it’s a case of the Goths/Roth’s- just the Sims team playing with us.
Hi, this doesn’t have much to do with the video, but I just found out something weird about Magic subhood/bin families from Belladonna Cove.
I was reading apartment life prima guide about Belladonna Cove and all the families from the bin are missing a lot of the original data: jobs (Nathan Gavigan, both of the Goodies and Ginger Newson were employed), skills, enthusiasm, customized one true hobby (this is missing for all sims in Desiderata Valley and Belladonna Cove! All of them originally had matching one true hobby, it reverted to original for some reason) and even the age - all of them are at the beginning of the lifestage, which they weren’t supposed to be.
Unfortunately, the prima guide doesn’t mention their original interests, but I can’t tell if they are correct either.
It’s a shame, because it adds an interesting twist to the Newson family, so I’d highly recommend checking out the prima guide for apartment life when playing this neighborhood.