I found myself using the clipless pedals to up my rear wheel. But guys, ¿what about jumping obstacles when riding downhill? When I'm riding downhill sometimes there are obstaclues I have not enough time to avoid so my choice is jump; but my bike feels like is gonna break, and sometimes my jump isn't high enough. ¿how to improve it? Thanks in advance.
The other day I managed to bunny hop my first trail obstacle! I was going around in the forest, following one of my usual tracks, when I notice a fallen tree up ahead. It's not a massive tree, I guess probably max 25-30 cm in diameter. And luckily for me no big branches, just a fairly straight shaft. So I just snapped off the small branches and cleared the way, got a good run up and... jumped it! The first try was not pretty at all, and I just ever so slightly dabbed the front wheel on the top. A couple more tries and it was much better. It was a small big moment :D
Thanks for doing this vid Neil, I already know how to bunny hop, but my bunny hops aren't very big and are pretty sloppy. This mostly comes down to the fact I can't manual my hardtail, thus I'm in the wrong position for the rear wheel lift. Thanks for the tip on really getting behind the saddle for that rear wheel lift, thus way you can throw your weight forwards. I've been starting with my hips raging behind the seat post, but I can go a little further back without going to crazy.
I can do a decent bunny hop but I always feel sooooo exhausted after a session of practicing them. I use so much energy trying to do it. Hopefully I’m not the only one…
I tried doing it on a full suspension 27.5 and I find it so hard so I decided to buy a dj buy just to learn and I can say that I'm slowly learning better on a dj bike.
This sounds very good and I’m sure it will help. However, I recently saw an instructional video by an excellent presenter who said that you don’t really scoop the pedals to get the back end up even if you think you do. He convincingly demonstrated this by attaching flat wood panels to his pedals and proceeded to bunny hop very well with no pedal grip whatsoever. I know, I found it very counterintuitive.
I definitely struggle with the part of getting a higher manual. Working on that and this video was very timely! I will borrow a dirt jumper on Friday from a friend and try bunnyhops with it. See if that is easier than with the full suspension bike I am on
There is still much for you to learn. Try a UA-cam search for advanced bunny hop. Ali Clarkson has some mad skills and does a good video on it. Here is his video on the subject. ua-cam.com/video/q5zBbLWIhHY/v-deo.html
@@TheTothtamas I have a similar experience with my xc and full suspension bikes. Something that helped me with riding different bikes is to understand that they have different wavelengths. A bike with more suspension (presence of front/rear shock and the amount of travel) will have a longer wavelength for pumping and hopping than a rigid or hard tail. I think that the wheelbase is also a factor, but somehow my 150/140 travel 27.5 bike is longer, but feels shorter than my 29er hard tail.
@@kel5944 yes, with longer wheel base bikes you must pull up sooner. Like if you compare a bmx to a mtb. With bmx the hop is almost instant but with the mtb the whole process take longer.
I have a bunch of scars on my shins because of the scoop advice lol. It's really more of just letting the bike come up underneath you. The bike follows your motion when you hop off the rear wheel then you row the bike out infront of you and land gracefully :D
I've seen another youtuber prove that the foot "scoop" isn't real. He replaced his pedals with flat pieces of wood with minimal friction (not scoopable) and still got good bunny hops
I want to watch this video with a Martyn comedy commentary overlay; “what are you doing lifting one leg and the bike up in the air?!” On a serious note, thanks for the advice. I really struggle with bunny hops. The lifting of the bike and one leg just reminded me of my 6-year-old “sneaking” around the house, arms and knees up haha.
Neil, you need to listen to your buddy Blake. He has a video out explaining to do an arm push with the foot scoop, to get the rear wheel up into the air. And it really helps alot. Cheers mate 🍻
I sometimes loose my lead foot off the pedal when going for really big bunny hops, resulting in the cranks spinning around and tearing my shin to shreds (it involved stitches and a tetanus booster last time). It's only ever my lead foot though. Dipping my toes/scooping more does seem to help a bit, that and shin pads ;-)
great video. my problem is not getting the same amount of height/pop when the bike is moving at pace. at walking pace i can do them good enough but i can't clear the same height when the bike moving on the trail. tips?
I learn how to bunnyhop from a friend of mine who plays with bmx, its just I cant bunnyhop high though just enough to get the up the gutter to sidewalks on roads most of the time to avoid traffic jam, just using an hardtail with suspension on the front , dont know if having a rear suspension is much easier though
Great vlog but noticed most of the bikes used in the how to vlogs are mainly full suspension, im 46 and learning again but only have a jump bike, would it be possible maybe vloging how to on a jump bike or hard tail would be much appreciated
@@Inexpressable its ok to comment buddy I just prefer certain people to explain as there explanation is more understandable for certain people like myself 👍
Keep going mate, it finaly will come back !!! I tried to make a comeback to skateboarding at 40 and managed to get my 180 flips back. I had to give up again as the concrete of the parks where way to hard on my joints. Now got in to mtb at near 50, as used to ride bmx as a kid. It's fun. Tricks are not a must, no big deal if you don't become a good jumper, hopper, or manualer.
Coming from bmx I find I can’t get the same power or height with the big bike and I always land front wheel first. Manuals are also a struggle to get right as the bikes quite long
#AskGMBN I can't even get the manual properly - just about get the front wheel off the ground. I wonder if I'm not big enough for the bike (~63kg / 168cm on a M Trek Fuel) though I'm well inside the manufacturer's sizing chart.
Not kidding. I’ve been riding for 25 years. The dropper is fantastic but relatively new to me. I certainly understand and what it does and the advantages but like any component I don’t think I’m getting the most out of it. It’s a tool and I’d like to lean how to refine the use of this tool. Do you think that’s stupid?
Can i still learn these things, my bike is 1 size to big for me . I really want to learn this trick really good but i can't seem to get my bike high enough.
If struggling with the manual think of going straight down with the hips then push or accelerate the bike forward with your arms and legs, should stop you going up and back..
Не умею в англицкий, так что просто зашёл глянуть прикольный баники на норм подвесе. I can't speak English enough good for understand this video, so I just want to see bunny hopes on full suspension bike)
Problem is my bike is a full suspension electric bike! The frame is "lightweight" (supposedly) aluminium alloy, however with the Bafang BBSHD and 1KW battery, it weighs about 35Kgs.
I literally don't have enough body weight to manual so I may find this hard and my experience with 'cheating' with clips may make it a little harder for me to learn on flats noe
Look at kids manualing in BMX, the front is high and they are on the right size bikes for their size, I did it when I was a kid, even on a bike that was too big, it takes a lot of practice, and pulling up harder instead of leaning back, take the brake off once you can control it a bit for even more practice(only for practice), and the hopping takes practice too getting your muscles to move quick will make you jump pretty high without being big, or strong, as long as your not hopping a beach cruiser, look at Tom Cardy, he's not that big but can still maneuver bigger bikes, lots and lots of practice, plus in Pro's like Tom and Neil they are also natural athletes, but guaranteed they practiced a ton.
You don't move your bum back, you 'kick' the bike forward. In theory it is the same motion, but since you weigh 5-10 times more than the bike, you move less, the bike moves much more. And it is much easier to visualise - compress down and then kick the bike forward!
Like a comment below I find this incredibly tiring and impossible on the trail. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm starting to think that this should be considered a carpark bunny hop, one to impress your mates while they're still faffing or also used for trials when stationary or barely moving. I keep hearing "bunny hop technique" in relation to jumps and other trail moves but I never see this motion even when the beginning of a video taught it. It's either massively dialed back but quick ( a sort of hip circular move not the L ), a push and pop off a bump or lip or it's the moment arm squash the rear wheel in then push with arms row-antirow that Lee Likes Bikes teaches. What I never see on the trail at normal speed is someone hanging off the back of the bike then jumping for the moon while scooping with their feet.
I can solve it , to lift the rear , position your heel 45 degrees forward and give it a push and also at the same time try to adjust your position, like moving your weight forward Let me know if it worked
Your not supposed to land a bunny hop front wheel first. It’s either both wheels or rear wheel first, the rear approach is sketchy. If you land front wheel first and there is a root or rock you didn’t clear your going OTB.
Have you made any of these mistakes? Let us know in the comments!
Im first
Yes, I use to not lift my front end high enough.
yup
Yes,
I am trying my best to put my rear wheel above the ground
I found myself using the clipless pedals to up my rear wheel. But guys, ¿what about jumping obstacles when riding downhill? When I'm riding downhill sometimes there are obstaclues I have not enough time to avoid so my choice is jump; but my bike feels like is gonna break, and sometimes my jump isn't high enough. ¿how to improve it? Thanks in advance.
I like the slow motion - it would be great if you use more of those (slow motions) maybe with some animations during those sequences
The other day I managed to bunny hop my first trail obstacle! I was going around in the forest, following one of my usual tracks, when I notice a fallen tree up ahead. It's not a massive tree, I guess probably max 25-30 cm in diameter. And luckily for me no big branches, just a fairly straight shaft. So I just snapped off the small branches and cleared the way, got a good run up and... jumped it! The first try was not pretty at all, and I just ever so slightly dabbed the front wheel on the top. A couple more tries and it was much better. It was a small big moment :D
Just getting started with mountain biking and can’t thank you guys enough for your videos! Incredibly helpful and well made.
I learned it on a BMX, i still argue it helps you develop the best jumping technique.
I learnt how to bunny hop up curbs recently I can now improve my technic and get more height thanks gmbn
Try side hopping up the curb into a curb skinny next! It is sweet.
@@ChasingChevy I will thanks for the suggestion
Thanks for doing this vid Neil, I already know how to bunny hop, but my bunny hops aren't very big and are pretty sloppy. This mostly comes down to the fact I can't manual my hardtail, thus I'm in the wrong position for the rear wheel lift. Thanks for the tip on really getting behind the saddle for that rear wheel lift, thus way you can throw your weight forwards. I've been starting with my hips raging behind the seat post, but I can go a little further back without going to crazy.
This is about the best bunny hop video I've ever seen. The slow-motion is amazingly helpful.
Thank you!!!!!
I was trying to Bunny hop
Neil is the best at explaining these types of things.
I can do a decent bunny hop but I always feel sooooo exhausted after a session of practicing them. I use so much energy trying to do it. Hopefully I’m not the only one…
It depends on the bike. It’s way easier on a bmx than an mtb with 29” wheels. On a bmx bike you could probably do it the whole day. More fun too.
@@cheetah694 yeah I’m definitely on a MTB no BMX for me
Same, very tired after practice on 29er
I tried doing it on a full suspension 27.5 and I find it so hard so I decided to buy a dj buy just to learn and I can say that I'm slowly learning better on a dj bike.
I am all sweat,pfiuu 😢😢
This sounds very good and I’m sure it will help. However, I recently saw an instructional video by an excellent presenter who said that you don’t really scoop the pedals to get the back end up even if you think you do. He convincingly demonstrated this by attaching flat wood panels to his pedals and proceeded to bunny hop very well with no pedal grip whatsoever. I know, I found it very counterintuitive.
Jeff Kendall weed is the bomb
the manual and scoop is the traditional/old method. there are new methods now.
I definitely struggle with the part of getting a higher manual. Working on that and this video was very timely! I will borrow a dirt jumper on Friday from a friend and try bunnyhops with it. See if that is easier than with the full suspension bike I am on
Excellent. I must admit I only watch the video if Neil is in...Best coach ever...
I am practicing bunny hop and thank you for your tips
As always, thank you professor! Excellent video and teaching!!
Thank you so much! This us brilliant. Ill keep coming back to this one to see and improve.
Bunny hops have got me out of trouble many times 🤙🏻
I've got my hops about this height. Now I just need to get the height like Danny Macaskill does! 😂 Years of practice I'm sure!
The type of the bike matters. I can do really big bunny hops on my dirtjump bike but on my xc bike i only can do about 15cm.
There is still much for you to learn. Try a UA-cam search for advanced bunny hop. Ali Clarkson has some mad skills and does a good video on it. Here is his video on the subject. ua-cam.com/video/q5zBbLWIhHY/v-deo.html
@@TheTothtamas I have a similar experience with my xc and full suspension bikes. Something that helped me with riding different bikes is to understand that they have different wavelengths. A bike with more suspension (presence of front/rear shock and the amount of travel) will have a longer wavelength for pumping and hopping than a rigid or hard tail. I think that the wheelbase is also a factor, but somehow my 150/140 travel 27.5 bike is longer, but feels shorter than my 29er hard tail.
@@kel5944 yes, with longer wheel base bikes you must pull up sooner. Like if you compare a bmx to a mtb. With bmx the hop is almost instant but with the mtb the whole process take longer.
@@TheTothtamas yes to true.
I have a bunch of scars on my shins because of the scoop advice lol. It's really more of just letting the bike come up underneath you. The bike follows your motion when you hop off the rear wheel then you row the bike out infront of you and land gracefully :D
Thanks man the manual start and scoop advice really help me out . need to work on the height next :)
Thanks Neil......I need to learn how, on a bike without suspension !
I always find the whole bunny hop process very similar to doing an ollie on a skateboard.
Makes sense, it's the same kind of motion.
I can do both, and I really don’t think they are similar
Hey y’all I’m one American who really appreciates all these “tricks” to get over the “struggle” quite frankly. 😉
Thanks for this, never had an issue with hardtail but a bit confused by full sus, my old (probs dodgy) technique doesn't work well at all
I've seen another youtuber prove that the foot "scoop" isn't real. He replaced his pedals with flat pieces of wood with minimal friction (not scoopable) and still got good bunny hops
I proved the scoop was a myth back in 1983, by bunnyhopping a BMX bike with only the spindles left from my broken pedals.
For those who are interested: ua-cam.com/video/U7MsXVlo1H8/v-deo.html
It's the friction between your shoe soles and your pedals (or whatever you have there) that gets the magic done i guess. (From physics pov)
@@Will762 Yes that's the guy. No scooping or friction lift is possible with those wooden paddles replacing his pedals.
@@donroutinho9682 I don't think it is friction actually helping to pull a heavy bike up. Watch this video ua-cam.com/video/U7MsXVlo1H8/v-deo.html
Ive seen some trials/BMX guys kinda move there body to the side of the wheel to get thr back up just a bit more
I want to watch this video with a Martyn comedy commentary overlay; “what are you doing lifting one leg and the bike up in the air?!”
On a serious note, thanks for the advice. I really struggle with bunny hops. The lifting of the bike and one leg just reminded me of my 6-year-old “sneaking” around the house, arms and knees up haha.
I trust this vid help me. Nice work
Neil, you need to listen to your buddy Blake. He has a video out explaining to do an arm push with the foot scoop, to get the rear wheel up into the air. And it really helps alot. Cheers mate 🍻
Thanks! I needed this video!
I sometimes loose my lead foot off the pedal when going for really big bunny hops, resulting in the cranks spinning around and tearing my shin to shreds (it involved stitches and a tetanus booster last time). It's only ever my lead foot though.
Dipping my toes/scooping more does seem to help a bit, that and shin pads ;-)
I struggle with both. Properlly lift front wheel and rear one...
just do the row anti row bunny hop
Check out Joy of Bike recent video. He dispelled the whole "scoop" pedals thing
great video. my problem is not getting the same amount of height/pop when the bike is moving at pace. at walking pace i can do them good enough but i can't clear the same height when the bike moving on the trail. tips?
Everyone wants to teach Bunny Hopping on MtB's and full suspension - what about hardtails and Road/CX bikes - is there much of a difference ?
Thanks
Damm this whole time I had just been lifting the bike up all at once didn’t realise I had to manual at the start
I learn how to bunnyhop from a friend of mine who plays with bmx, its just I cant bunnyhop high though just enough to get the up the gutter to sidewalks on roads most of the time to avoid traffic jam, just using an hardtail with suspension on the front , dont know if having a rear suspension is much easier though
I have alot of issue In hopping once pulling the front up, but I can kinda sometimes. still have terrible balance in the air
Great vlog but noticed most of the bikes used in the how to vlogs are mainly full suspension, im 46 and learning again but only have a jump bike, would it be possible maybe vloging how to on a jump bike or hard tail would be much appreciated
Not trying to be rude but I'm sure there are plenty of guides for bunnyhopping a hard tail. It really won't be alot different though
@@Inexpressable its ok to comment buddy I just prefer certain people to explain as there explanation is more understandable for certain people like myself 👍
@@belftheelf75mtb54 Neil did a video on a hardtail about bunnyhopping a few years ago.
It's the same technique on any bike.
could we get a video on gcn of the gmbm presenters doing some road training that they would do normally
1990 - me bunny hopping bmx like crazy teenager
2021 - ye olde me who've lost my mojo n watching tons of bunny hop videos to try bunny hopping my mtb
Keep going mate, it finaly will come back !!! I tried to make a comeback to skateboarding at 40 and managed to get my 180 flips back. I had to give up again as the concrete of the parks where way to hard on my joints. Now got in to mtb at near 50, as used to ride bmx as a kid. It's fun. Tricks are not a must, no big deal if you don't become a good jumper, hopper, or manualer.
Which Ergon saddle is that?? Can't seem to find that model(with 'Ergon' large print on the side of the saddle).
Coming from bmx I find I can’t get the same power or height with the big bike and I always land front wheel first. Manuals are also a struggle to get right as the bikes quite long
I always find the technique to get the fron wheel up very hard
#AskGMBN I can't even get the manual properly - just about get the front wheel off the ground. I wonder if I'm not big enough for the bike (~63kg / 168cm on a M Trek Fuel) though I'm well inside the manufacturer's sizing chart.
Give us some tips about dropping your seat. I find it a momentum crusher.
Kidding?
Not kidding. I’ve been riding for 25 years. The dropper is fantastic but relatively new to me. I certainly understand and what it does and the advantages but like any component I don’t think I’m getting the most out of it. It’s a tool and I’d like to lean how to refine the use of this tool. Do you think that’s stupid?
Can i still learn these things, my bike is 1 size to big for me . I really want to learn this trick really good but i can't seem to get my bike high enough.
How about pedals? Cus i was struggling on the bunny hop cus my pedals didnt have pedal pins and its tooth wasn't sharp.
you should do a Video with an Hardtail Like the Canyon Stoic not everybody has an high end spec Fully
Same technique
@@meganNefarious dont think so bcs when you ride an fully the shock gives you the up Momentum and an Hardtail dient habe an shock
@@DDR_Snake Doesn't matter... There are plenty of hardtail bunny hop videos...check them out : )
Helps u fly jumps when u haven't got enough speed/momentum
4:04 - I saw Blake on top of the right part of the screen...
Can I practice manual first? so that bunny hop will be easy for me
I can bunny hop but only an English. I cant lift my rear wheel if i do a manual. Any help?
If struggling with the manual think of going straight down with the hips then push or accelerate the bike forward with your arms and legs, should stop you going up and back..
Не умею в англицкий, так что просто зашёл глянуть прикольный баники на норм подвесе.
I can't speak English enough good for understand this video, so I just want to see bunny hopes on full suspension bike)
Problem is my bike is a full suspension electric bike! The frame is "lightweight" (supposedly) aluminium alloy, however with the Bafang BBSHD and 1KW battery, it weighs about 35Kgs.
What e-bike weighs 35kgs?😲
this guy bunny hopped a 22kg bike ua-cam.com/video/vq7fF0_AjW0/v-deo.html
@@joshuamei7465 Well, mine is a self built bike. So I guess its heavier than the expensive premade ones.
Its hard man, been practicing mine for nearly 2 years now. Its frustrating huff
Don't worry dude one day it just clicks and they happen easily
Don’t give up
0:00, 0:12, 5:02 x2,
Que the Kendall Weed scoop comments lol
I tried to lift the back wheel , but ended in peeling off my lower knee skin ,it really hurt
I literally don't have enough body weight to manual so I may find this hard and my experience with 'cheating' with clips may make it a little harder for me to learn on flats noe
Look at kids manualing in BMX, the front is high and they are on the right size bikes for their size, I did it when I was a kid, even on a bike that was too big, it takes a lot of practice, and pulling up harder instead of leaning back, take the brake off once you can control it a bit for even more practice(only for practice), and the hopping takes practice too getting your muscles to move quick will make you jump pretty high without being big, or strong, as long as your not hopping a beach cruiser, look at Tom Cardy, he's not that big but can still maneuver bigger bikes, lots and lots of practice, plus in Pro's like Tom and Neil they are also natural athletes, but guaranteed they practiced a ton.
@@willjones7132 cheers mate im sure that'll help me thanks for the help
Im Really Struggling of Lifting the Rear Wheel when I Stand but I can do it at the Flats😂
I'm glad even the professional UA-cam channels struggle to come up with video ideas 😂
Waht benefit ur front mudguard has ?🤣🤣
Can you do a vid "how to jump with clips" please. But not big jumps.
i cant bunny hop becouse i cant manual its the only problem i can lift the rear to otb level and straight hop real high
You don't move your bum back, you 'kick' the bike forward. In theory it is the same motion, but since you weigh 5-10 times more than the bike, you move less, the bike moves much more. And it is much easier to visualise - compress down and then kick the bike forward!
Where I'm from your teaching a bronco...bunny hop to me is both wheels off the ground at the same time.
Practice on the grass definitely lol
Why is that?
Like a comment below I find this incredibly tiring and impossible on the trail.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm starting to think that this should be considered a carpark bunny hop, one to impress your mates while they're still faffing or also used for trials when stationary or barely moving.
I keep hearing "bunny hop technique" in relation to jumps and other trail moves but I never see this motion even when the beginning of a video taught it.
It's either massively dialed back but quick ( a sort of hip circular move not the L ), a push and pop off a bump or lip or it's the moment arm squash the rear wheel in then push with arms row-antirow that Lee Likes Bikes teaches.
What I never see on the trail at normal speed is someone hanging off the back of the bike then jumping for the moon while scooping with their feet.
“Improve your bunny hop”? I’ve watched maybe 239 different how-to videos. Still can not bunny hop! 🤦🏽♂️
I still cant get the back wheel up despite months of trying 😱
Which one?
@ sorry. Back .
I thought a bunny hop was when front and back wheel pop off the ground at same time? This guy is doing a wheelie hop!
tried for years, can't the manual for love nor money
and now can't even use my bike, don't have the money to fix rear shock :(
Every one: FiRsT
5 years and I still can't do it.
I can solve it , to lift the rear , position your heel 45 degrees forward and give it a push and also at the same time try to adjust your position, like moving your weight forward
Let me know if it worked
There is like 7 people saying first lol
Freaking 5 years trying, still can’t make one 😭😭😭🤣🤣
You probably should consider giving up riding. I am a total noob in mtb and learnt it in two days using UA-cam videos.
Try to get some coaching by local trainer or just more experienced rider, they can pinpoint on what exactly wrong you're doing
If you don't do it right on the full suspension bike you will grind your ass on the rear tyre😂
What helps me is trying to pull the handlebars to touch my tighs
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Still can't believe people can't do a bunny hop. I try to explain it like a wave 🌊
Your not supposed to land a bunny hop front wheel first. It’s either both wheels or rear wheel first, the rear approach is sketchy. If you land front wheel first and there is a root or rock you didn’t clear your going OTB.
Wrong
@@meganNefarious enjoy your TBI. Only XC bikers believe otherwise.
@@goaserchomp664 TBI? I run 160/145...don't know who you think is XC but definitely not me lol..
@@goaserchomp664 Yeah never had any issues...I can bunny hop just fine lol
@@goaserchomp664 .....but go ahead and keep telling all these pro riders that they don't know how to ride lol..
Maybe i'm a lazy sod and can't do a trick even if my life depended on it, but i find doing this stuff pointless!
There is no scoop. It's an OK'ish cue, but that's not how the physics work out here.
A Little mistake can shoot balls..isn't it..
Instructions unclear, am a rabbit now.
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@@mattybanks0655 it may be network dealy...
Sorry Neil, but those nose heavy bunny hops are horrible.
It’s not the way it’s suppose to be done. Both wheels landing is the best.
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