Thanks for taking time to explain, the menus look identical to that of the Thor/Mars thermal scope I have purchased. Now to go out and put this into practice, not feeling so daunted now 😃
excellent video congratulations. I have a 3x14 HD device from ATN. On the home screen the measuring tape does not drop 25 meters. Therefore, targets below 25 meters are not accurate. I have already updated the system to no avail. All the videos I could check the measuring tape adjust to less than 25m and the chosen setting is on the home screen. What can this problem be?
It's accurate across the power range at a given distance like any traditional optic would be, it just has more features, less parallax issues, and and less mechanical components. You have several options to deal with various distances. Ballistic calculator, drop compensation reticles, or switching zero profiles.
I'm looking to put one of these on my Ravin R15 crossbow and am a little confused on the one shot zero. Say I use the one shot zero at 40 yards and its dead nuts, what happens when I move back to 80 yards? Does the scope automatically read it to 80 yards and internally adjusts to where I put the reticle?
Ray Ohl No, the one shot zero is for setting the initial aiming point of the scope. I think you are probably referring to the balistic calculator/shooting solution. Theoretically you could use it to compensate drop by wigging out the input distance and info settings but it would probably be more confusing than just using the approximation marks on the included cross bow reticle. You would zero at 30 or 40 yards and use the drop compensating lines for longer yardage similar to a traditional cross bow scope.
Hi I might of heard different what you said about zeroing the ATN scope, so too understand better of what you said zero the scope lowest mag and than max out mag too fine tune is that correct? I did it all wrong when I just purchase one few weeks ago. I only did my zero at 3x didn’t max it out too fine tune it.
I had it connected to a TV via the HDMI output and recorded the TV screen. This shuts off the internal display so you must shoot by looking at the TV also.
So do you go into profile> current and change the range once zeroed or did you change it prior to zeroing. My currently say 25 yrds but I want to zero at 50yrds. Would I change before referring or afterward? Or create a new profile! When I create new it still has some value for range (it keeps the 25yrds) thats different than what I want to zero from.
I assume that part of the process that isn't shown explicitly in this video is to set the estimated distance of the target first under the settings > profiles/zero > current a.k.a the "zero distance"? Looks like you had 15 meters already put in during this video.
You can sight in at the initial distance that you choose. Provided that you properly setup the ballistics calculations, turn it on, and enter the changes in distance to target. The calculator will then use the primary zero coordinate and initial zero distance to calculate impact shifts across the trajectory flight path and move the reticle accordingly. (To the best of its ability given the conditional accuracy of the inputs)
I recommend zeroing at the most appropriate distance for your situation. (Try and zero at your average presumed game distance or the best midpoint for your trajectory curve.) On sonic flat calibers typically 50, 100, or 200 yards. Obviously much different on PCP air rifles or cross bows.
Great video. But, I'm constantly having to reset my scope. I've tightened all the scope mounts and still, after a shot or two, it keeps getting way off target. I have to reset it so much, I don't trust it on live game. Any ideas?
I can't get this sight on paper at 25 or 50 yards. I have lots of guns and have installed lots of regular scopes but I'm not very good with computerized stuff. I think I'm missing something on the electronics side . I'm shooting a cz 22 wmr. It is literally feet off on windage and elevation . Loved your video and any input would help . I tried what you did and maxed out the windage and elevation and still not close . I also can't get crosshairs to return to center of screen
scott williams If you would like to call me, I would be more than happy to try and help you with your issue. I am normally available from around 7am-11pm CST 877 806 2977
Initially I start fairly close to ensure I am on paper, but ultimately confirming at your maximum average shooting distance is the best option in my opinion. I would rather confirm and prove 200 yard groups than rely on a tight 50 and the calculator, if for no other reason the practice of actually shooting to that distance.
You could either: A: adjust reticle hold position manually just like you would in most traditional optics or B: pre-install all the required ballistics information in the ballistics calculator, turn it on then simply tell the sight the distance it is actively shooting. In the basic sight, this can be done by either using the Quick Entry or the angular distance "rangefinder". If you have the Laser Ballistics rangefinder or ABL this can be accomplished via the laser rangefinder. Using the Ballistics Calculator the sight will adjust the reticle for you provided it knows the original sight-in distance, all ballistics information, and new "active" distance to target for adjustment. See the following video. ua-cam.com/video/eX_jTUqgrWM/v-deo.html
so under the menu you were choosing you can have different zero's set for different rilfes/platforms ? just curious if i can have this zeroed for 2 different rifles. and not have to reshoot? thanks man!
Yes, you can set the scope profiles for up to 6 different rifles. With the addition of a quick attach picatinny mount, this can be even easier. (Works the way it is, this just makes it even easier, if all you guns have picatinny rails) If you have any further questions, you can also call us toll free 877-806-2977
you watch i'll get it and have hell with it,im glad its a simple scope with no video and wifi and all the bells and whooplaa i just want to be able to zero it in then have some fun.i also will be using this on a airforce talon ss 22 cal. not the condor,but still a serious pellet gun,i love it.
When I have made the adjustments and saved them when I go back to normal screen the retical does not go back to the centre of the screen any one else had this problem.
The top recoil recommendation is .308 semi-auto, I don't think I would recommend exceeding that as the eye-relief is short and the physical weight of the scope itself could be an issue with the guns mounting system. If you are after primarily night vision, I would look at the Sightmark Photon RT or X-Sight 4K units for heavier recoil applications. The Photon is digital has a real good price and is very durable, it will work day or night also but is black and white only and is heavily geared toward night performance. The 4K Pro unit has a great daytime color image but requires a lot of IR light for night performance. The Sightmark Stream Vision application and device are both more robust in my opinion. Both the RT and 4K are 30mm tube mounted, have much higher recoil ratings and considerably better eye relief.
@@foxoptic5887 thanks for the info. Was debating between my 270 or 22lr. Lol opposite end of the caliber chart. It was bought for small game hunting but debated on larger game. So with this info I'll stick with the smaller caliber.
@@bdrone9183 The ABL 1000 rangefinder is a lot of fun. I have had a few connection issues and it desperately needs a few re-designs, but for the money, overall it is a cool concept, I just wouldn't trust it in on a really serious hunt. It attaches to the front of the sight and wirelessly feeds the rangefinders distance readings into the sights ballistic calculator for automatic reticle adjustments. The scopes ballistic calculator feature is fun. It is cool to see how accurate it can be and you can actually learn a lot from "watching" it operate.
I noticed your scope said 177ft, was that accurate? I zeroed my scope at 100 yds but when I turn on my scope and look across the room it says 297 yds. Why is that?
Ron Sears I was not actually using the ballistic calculator, just the one shot zero. The numbers were still showing, as I had left it on from a previous test. If yours is reading something in the upper left it probably came from inadvertently enter/exiting the range finder, or was moved using the quick entry mode. You can change it to whatever you want using the quick entry option on the menu, the icon looks like a tape measure. It won't effect anything unless your ballistic calculator is active. You set the target zero distance in the ballistic profile portion and when the calculator is active it uses the known distance reference (zero yardage) and the active yardage as part of the equation when it moves the reticle. Call me if you have further questions, I also have a video on how to set up and use the ballistic calculator. Thanks Travis Fox Fox Optic 877 806 2977
bahnsfamilycatfishingtours The X-Sight works quite well on my Ten point Venom. I actually aced my first bolt with it the other day using the 3-14. It groups very tight.
A Estantino Windows media player doesn't seem to play the audio correctly. If you play it using another media player (we use VLC) You will probably find that the audio is actually there. )
Hi, how are you? I am writing from Argentina ... sorry for my ignorance but my question is what is the meaning or the purpose or just what it is for when I enter the data (to calibrate or correct the zero point) in the place that SIGTH HEIGTH says. I appreciate your attention .. I greet you very carefully
Richard Farris It links via WiFi. You turn WiFi on in the scope first, then search for the scopes network with your device. (it sends out a WiFi signal) Once you find it, you should be able to connect using the password: atn_obsidian
Hey thanks. That was actually what I had tried. What finally worked was the oldest trick in the computer world: I cut my phone off then cut it back on!
Believe it or not, in lieu of your single experience, there are actually thousands of happy ATN X-Sight II HD owners out there using these on everything from crossbows, PCP air rifles, to hunting calibers up to .308 semi-auto. I understand your frustration but a single experience only equals truth to you and while I am not an ATN fan either the numbers on this particular unit paint a different picture.
Everyone lies about this scope; either because they are agents of atn for benefit... or ignorant. Notice the guy old adjustment jumps the cross hairs. Then he says must of been something else and blows it off. What if every time you went to use it; the thing had to be re zeroed. Which is my experience. A complete waste of money. But for people who plink in the back yard with an air gun (teens); maybe not so bad; but you will have to adjust constantly... and that card and holder will most likely be messed up (ATN will lie to you; just call them after you experience problems with it holding zero... is this supposed to hold zero. Why yes it will.). This is a very expensive piece of junk that should be given away to teens in cracker box giveaways. If a professional bought this they would wig out at this crap. ATN board members; are they liberals trying to put inferior gear in every gun owners hands. Maybe?
This video was shot live and the sight performed exactly as represented in the video. I did, however, quit selling ATN sights in early 2018 as I felt quality issues with the later 4K series units showed low integrity, were poorly addressed, and that ATN left a lot of their customers dealing with their premature release of an obviously underdeveloped product.
I see by the downvotes there are 43 people probably still doing it incorrectly. Thanks for the straight to the point video.
there is no one on You tube that makes these videos as well as you do! one stop class room! thanks!
was having trouble zeroing my x sight and ATN actually recommended your video now I see what I was doing wrong thanks for the info
Adrian Terry If you have any other questions or if I can help you feel free to give me a call. 877 806 2977. Thanks Travis Fox
That was very good demo and simple. Thank you!
Alberto Papi Their one shot zero is pretty straight forward and simple. Thanks Travis Fox Fox Optic
This demo convinced me to buy one for my PCP Rifle (.25)
Well done. Short and to the point. Great information.
Great video. Had mine for two months, can't wait to sight in now, and I won't be fumbling around looking for the elevation and windage knobs!
radar 211 feel free to call me if you have any questions or need any help. Travis Fox 877 806 2977
Finally someone made a good video on this subject.
Awesome video Travis. Thanks for all you're help I'm the one who had the ATN X II that wouldn't switch from night to day..
Steve, if you have any other issues or questions, feel free to contact us. Thanks Travis Fox 877-806-977
Thanks for taking time to explain, the menus look identical to that of the Thor/Mars thermal scope I have purchased. Now to go out and put this into practice, not feeling so daunted now 😃
Thank you, perfect for us dyslexic children
That was one accurate little rifle! Nice video. Going sight mine in now.
Got my new silencer today and used One Shot Zero on the scope, super easy!
That was bloody clever!!!. I'm getting one. Great video.
Thanks for this “straight to the point” video!
Just ordered mine..great video fox
just bought this optic. Great tutorial.
Blakstar feel free to call me if you have any questions. 877 806 2977
Thank you for that informative video
Thanks so.much for this! Absolutely perfect!!!
Hola excelente video yo poseo la atn 4k
A qué distancia calibra el cero ?? En este video . gracias
How far out do you have this target set up?
Price of that scope sir?
Tnx
What rifle stand are you using?
Nice video great sighting in .
How will the hold over feature calculate a subsonic .300 black out load out of a 9” barrel from say 25 yards to 200-300.. 190-220 grain
Is each click on the scope equal to one inch on the target?
Very good video. Much appreciated
Muy buen video intentare hacelo gracias desde Argentina
Great video 👍 Thanks man
Gracias. A ti SI te entendi!.
excellent video congratulations. I have a 3x14 HD device from ATN. On the home screen the measuring tape does not drop 25 meters. Therefore, targets below 25 meters are not accurate. I have already updated the system to no avail. All the videos I could check the measuring tape adjust to less than 25m and the chosen setting is on the home screen. What can this problem be?
What did you press and when?
Do u need an sd card to save the zero point?
But do you have to zero it each time you zoom or can you zoom it close and zero it zoom out and from that point it's super accurate.
It's accurate across the power range at a given distance like any traditional optic would be, it just has more features, less parallax issues, and and less mechanical components. You have several options to deal with various distances. Ballistic calculator, drop compensation reticles, or switching zero profiles.
I'm looking to put one of these on my Ravin R15 crossbow and am a little confused on the one shot zero. Say I use the one shot zero at 40 yards and its dead nuts, what happens when I move back to 80 yards? Does the scope automatically read it to 80 yards and internally adjusts to where I put the reticle?
Ray Ohl No, the one shot zero is for setting the initial aiming point of the scope. I think you are probably referring to the balistic calculator/shooting solution. Theoretically you could use it to compensate drop by wigging out the input distance and info settings but it would probably be more confusing than just using the approximation marks on the included cross bow reticle. You would zero at 30 or 40 yards and use the drop compensating lines for longer yardage similar to a traditional cross bow scope.
Was that at 177 ft as displayed in the top left corner
No, this was only about 60ft in the basement of my home.
Hi I might of heard different what you said about zeroing the ATN scope, so too understand better of what you said zero the scope lowest mag and than max out mag too fine tune is that correct? I did it all wrong when I just purchase one few weeks ago. I only did my zero at 3x didn’t max it out too fine tune it.
Thanks how'd you get it to record all the symbology besides the cross hairs?
I had it connected to a TV via the HDMI output and recorded the TV screen. This shuts off the internal display so you must shoot by looking at the TV also.
So do you go into profile> current and change the range once zeroed or did you change it prior to zeroing. My currently say 25 yrds but I want to zero at 50yrds. Would I change before referring or afterward? Or create a new profile! When I create new it still has some value for range (it keeps the 25yrds) thats different than what I want to zero from.
Thank you very helpful video appreciate it
Henry Gamez no problem, if you have any questions or need any help feel free to give me a call. 877 806 2977. Travis Fox
I assume that part of the process that isn't shown explicitly in this video is to set the estimated distance of the target first under the settings > profiles/zero > current a.k.a the "zero distance"? Looks like you had 15 meters already put in during this video.
How far do I have to be from the target, if I'm sighting it in at 50 yards will it automatically be spot on at 100 or 200 yards?
You can sight in at the initial distance that you choose. Provided that you properly setup the ballistics calculations, turn it on, and enter the changes in distance to target. The calculator will then use the primary zero coordinate and initial zero distance to calculate impact shifts across the trajectory flight path and move the reticle accordingly. (To the best of its ability given the conditional accuracy of the inputs)
I appreciate the quick response and info, I'll try and get it going...thankyou
What’s the recommended distance to zero?
I recommend zeroing at the most appropriate distance for your situation. (Try and zero at your average presumed game distance or the best midpoint for your trajectory curve.) On sonic flat calibers typically 50, 100, or 200 yards. Obviously much different on PCP air rifles or cross bows.
what is the optimum scope of that sight atn sight ll
Great video. But, I'm constantly having to reset my scope. I've tightened all the scope mounts and still, after a shot or two, it keeps getting way off target. I have to reset it so much, I don't trust it on live game. Any ideas?
do you have one in night vision mode?
I can't get this sight on paper at 25 or 50 yards. I have lots of guns and have installed lots of regular scopes but I'm not very good with computerized stuff. I think I'm missing something on the electronics side . I'm shooting a cz 22 wmr. It is literally feet off on windage and elevation . Loved your video and any input would help . I tried what you did and maxed out the windage and elevation and still not close . I also can't get crosshairs to return to center of screen
scott williams If you would like to call me, I would be more than happy to try and help you with your issue. I am normally available from around 7am-11pm CST 877 806 2977
How do I get a replacement rubber seal for the acc battery pack when I ordered mine it did not come with it thanks for future reply
How do I get a replacement rubber seal for the acc battery pack when I ordered mine it did not come with it
What kind of air rifle was that? It is very accurate! Great shooting
Daniel Valencia Air Force Condor SS PCP .22 Cal
Fox Optic thank you sir! Have a merry Christmas and good shooting!
Thank you, hope you and yours have a very merry Christmas as well.
Spot On !!!!
would like to see sight used on 25 cal marauder
What distance is optimal to perform this at?
Initially I start fairly close to ensure I am on paper, but ultimately confirming at your maximum average shooting distance is the best option in my opinion. I would rather confirm and prove 200 yard groups than rely on a tight 50 and the calculator, if for no other reason the practice of actually shooting to that distance.
Me ajudou bastante, OBRIGADO 👏🔝
What happens if the target is closer or further off than zero?
You could either: A: adjust reticle hold position manually just like you would in most traditional optics or B: pre-install all the required ballistics information in the ballistics calculator, turn it on then simply tell the sight the distance it is actively shooting. In the basic sight, this can be done by either using the Quick Entry or the angular distance "rangefinder". If you have the Laser Ballistics rangefinder or ABL this can be accomplished via the laser rangefinder. Using the Ballistics Calculator the sight will adjust the reticle for you provided it knows the original sight-in distance, all ballistics information, and new "active" distance to target for adjustment. See the following video. ua-cam.com/video/eX_jTUqgrWM/v-deo.html
so under the menu you were choosing you can have different zero's set for different rilfes/platforms ? just curious if i can have this zeroed for 2 different rifles. and not have to reshoot? thanks man!
Yes, you can set the scope profiles for up to 6 different rifles. With the addition of a quick attach picatinny mount, this can be even easier. (Works the way it is, this just makes it even easier, if all you guns have picatinny rails) If you have any further questions, you can also call us toll free 877-806-2977
another thought is you can have different zero's for the same gun, with different loads.
Scott Mac that be great for me. I switch ammo a lot lol
what range was this set up at ? Thank you
stan tray This was only about 50 ft for demonstration however you would apply the same procedure at basically any starting zero yardage.
Impressive! Nice video!
you watch i'll get it and have hell with it,im glad its a simple scope with no video and wifi and all the bells and whooplaa i just want to be able to zero it in then have some fun.i also will be using this on a airforce talon ss 22 cal. not the condor,but still a serious pellet gun,i love it.
When I have made the adjustments and saved them when I go back to normal screen the retical does not go back to the centre of the screen any one else had this problem.
Easy instructions!!! Thanks!!!
How would this scope hold up on a 270
The top recoil recommendation is .308 semi-auto, I don't think I would recommend exceeding that as the eye-relief is short and the physical weight of the scope itself could be an issue with the guns mounting system. If you are after primarily night vision, I would look at the Sightmark Photon RT or X-Sight 4K units for heavier recoil applications. The Photon is digital has a real good price and is very durable, it will work day or night also but is black and white only and is heavily geared toward night performance. The 4K Pro unit has a great daytime color image but requires a lot of IR light for night performance. The Sightmark Stream Vision application and device are both more robust in my opinion. Both the RT and 4K are 30mm tube mounted, have much higher recoil ratings and considerably better eye relief.
@@foxoptic5887 thanks for the info. Was debating between my 270 or 22lr. Lol opposite end of the caliber chart. It was bought for small game hunting but debated on larger game. So with this info I'll stick with the smaller caliber.
@@foxoptic5887 any good accessories you would recommend for the scope
@@bdrone9183 The ABL 1000 rangefinder is a lot of fun. I have had a few connection issues and it desperately needs a few re-designs, but for the money, overall it is a cool concept, I just wouldn't trust it in on a really serious hunt. It attaches to the front of the sight and wirelessly feeds the rangefinders distance readings into the sights ballistic calculator for automatic reticle adjustments. The scopes ballistic calculator feature is fun. It is cool to see how accurate it can be and you can actually learn a lot from "watching" it operate.
I noticed your scope said 177ft, was that accurate? I zeroed my scope at 100 yds but when I turn on my scope and look across the room it says 297 yds. Why is that?
Ron Sears I was not actually using the ballistic calculator, just the one shot zero. The numbers were still showing, as I had left it on from a previous test. If yours is reading something in the upper left it probably came from inadvertently enter/exiting the range finder, or was moved using the quick entry mode. You can change it to whatever you want using the quick entry option on the menu, the icon looks like a tape measure. It won't effect anything unless your ballistic calculator is active. You set the target zero distance in the ballistic profile portion and when the calculator is active it uses the known distance reference (zero yardage) and the active yardage as part of the equation when it moves the reticle. Call me if you have further questions, I also have a video on how to set up and use the ballistic calculator. Thanks Travis Fox Fox Optic 877 806 2977
Merci Monsieur
Can this be used with a .308 cal?
gallor1able yes, it is recoil recommended through 308
How this scope read wind speed??
Wind speed, direction, and humidity are entered by the user.
Nice. Thank you.
Id like to set my raven r15 crossbow up with one if possible its shooting right in at 425fps is this possible
bahnsfamilycatfishingtours The X-Sight works quite well on my Ten point Venom. I actually aced my first bolt with it the other day using the 3-14. It groups very tight.
no sound on my atn x sight 2 5x20, the microphone is on, need help, cant get through customer service.
A Estantino Windows media player doesn't seem to play the audio correctly. If you play it using another media player (we use VLC) You will probably find that the audio is actually there. )
Hi, how are you? I am writing from Argentina ... sorry for my ignorance but my question is what is the meaning or the purpose or just what it is for when I enter the data (to calibrate or correct the zero point) in the place that SIGTH HEIGTH says. I appreciate your attention .. I greet you very carefully
nerio fernandez measure from the bore center to sight center
thanks for your help ... regards
has anyone sett up the obsidian app on an android? I have a motorola turbo 2 and I can't seem to get the bluetooth to link up.
Richard Farris It links via WiFi. You turn WiFi on in the scope first, then search for the scopes network with your device. (it sends out a WiFi signal) Once you find it, you should be able to connect using the password: atn_obsidian
Hey thanks. That was actually what I had tried. What finally worked was the oldest trick in the computer world: I cut my phone off then cut it back on!
my thro lt wont zero
We sell the cord and cap for 14.99. The cap is a custom fit to the cord. You can find this item on our website or contact us toll free at 877 806 2977
Gots to have one
Thank Thank
So niceeeeeeeee bro
Sheesh!
For a BB gun; this scope might pass. But for a real piece of gear; it's a piece of tripe.
Believe it or not, in lieu of your single experience, there are actually thousands of happy ATN X-Sight II HD owners out there using these on everything from crossbows, PCP air rifles, to hunting calibers up to .308 semi-auto. I understand your frustration but a single experience only equals truth to you and while I am not an ATN fan either the numbers on this particular unit paint a different picture.
Everyone lies about this scope; either because they are agents of atn for benefit... or ignorant. Notice the guy old adjustment jumps the cross hairs. Then he says must of been something else and blows it off. What if every time you went to use it; the thing had to be re zeroed. Which is my experience. A complete waste of money. But for people who plink in the back yard with an air gun (teens); maybe not so bad; but you will have to adjust constantly... and that card and holder will most likely be messed up (ATN will lie to you; just call them after you experience problems with it holding zero... is this supposed to hold zero. Why yes it will.). This is a very expensive piece of junk that should be given away to teens in cracker box giveaways. If a professional bought this they would wig out at this crap. ATN board members; are they liberals trying to put inferior gear in every gun owners hands. Maybe?
This video was shot live and the sight performed exactly as represented in the video. I did, however, quit selling ATN sights in early 2018 as I felt quality issues with the later 4K series units showed low integrity, were poorly addressed, and that ATN left a lot of their customers dealing with their premature release of an obviously underdeveloped product.
Thankyou Sir.