@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 As long as you factor in the depreciation, all the power to you! I have the F82 M4 non comp and I find the seats perfectly adequate even for track driving.
I had both the G82 M4 and the latest M3 CS, and the M4 felt more stable. Even the lap time of the new M4 CS at Nurburgring is over 8 seconds faster than the M3 CS. Honestly, I don't see the need to pay a premium for the CS. For around $110k, you can get a 2025 M4 xDrive with ceramic brakes and all the available options. Adding a swan neck rear spoiler, KW V4 coilovers, a body kit, BM3, CS tune, a new wheel set, and a charge air cooler manifold-all of this would keep the total cost under $150k-$160k. However, if I were to spend that much, I'd consider adding about $30k more and going for a 992.2 GTS instead.
@@Salpeteroxid A couple of BMW techs have also chimed in on reddit and confirmed that they can see if a JB4 has been used but that they won't actually dig around to find out unless something has happened that a tune could have caused (which with the JB4 is pretty unlikely but not impossible).
I am lucky to own both the 2022 M5CS and the 2024 M3CS. I think that the M3CS is overall a better car. Love it! What a value! And yes, you are right, trans tune in the M5CS is a lot smoother. But suspension setup on M3CS is superb! Overall, the car in on par with my Project 8 and, to me, that means a lot!
@startingtech3900 only brokies think everyone takes out a loan for cars like these. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you just assume so because your line of credit nor bank account can't get you either.
What's project 8? Also I'm so happy with my F82 M4, took it to the Nürburgring, it ran 290 on the autobahn loaded upp with beers and spirits and a mini fridge and loads of luggage. M-cars are on a different level and I'll never sell this car 😊
@Cars with Miles to do a launch with automatic up shifts you just need to put the car into sport +, turn traction to MDM, press the brake, shift the transmission to S3 with the lever, then press the gas until you see the checkered flag in the cluster, then release the brake.
I wouldn't say the jerkiness of the transmission while not fully committed with the throttle is a problem, it just gives you a mechanical feeling and a spirit in the car like older cars. There is a element of driving in certain vehicles that require different things which you then will learn and discover. If everything should be silky smooth and like a 7-series then a M340 or just a basic 3-series should be that persons choice
All the “negatives” that make this car difficult to live with on the daily are things people who can afford it, in its limited numbers, won’t care about. This is a track weapon. If you want the one that can cosplay as family friendly daily, get the regular M3
3:45 I actually found the seat (once you are in them) to be extremely comfortable! My wife hated getting in and out of the car but was fine once she was in. The center carbon piece in the seats is far enough forward it doesn’t impact the bits.
The bucket seats is for track use to hold you in position while turning on speed as its a track focused bmw. That glued in cs name for competition sport. U could get the normal m3 with normal seats less stiffer suspension abd less power and u could have same fun soo.
So weird to see the trans jerking around like that. My 2022 Supra seems to really shine when you’re on it but not WOT (it does great WOT too 😂) I used to sell bmw and I never noticed that with the competition model tho I never drove the CS. Great video man
@@CarswithMiles My cousin shared their experience with me. Long story short - there was lots of passive aggression. However, that was 7 years ago so it could have changed.
Or..or...or.....hear me out.....we could just recycle the E30 and put a B58 from a crashed Supra(because they will crash all of them😂) in it and sell it for half the price... problem solved.
Great review but you gotta figure out the launch control on these BMW's. Come to NJ and you can review my 2025 M4cs and I'll show you how to do launch control, lol.
only thing I disagree with is that u called it a family sedan, I don’t think the 3 series really is a family sedan, and for m3cs money you can be well into x7 for family cars
I understand your that its not practical but the main reason they made it is to be a four door race kinda car and not a family car bcz why buy a cs for family when theres a competition...main point,m3 cs is not a practical or family car its made for people who like to race on the track😢
Only on the side doors but remember this is a track car so it’s not a priority. I know the F80 had it but idk it would have been dope to make some carbon fiber cup holders in the middle lol
lol you mean the new M5? That thing is abysmal. Not only does it have an umbilical chord (err… plug-ok hybrid) but it’s a full 1250lbs heavier than the non-M5 AND they’ve eliminated the shifter altogether - let alone the bespoke M shifter that has neutral as a first-class citizen. What… in the freaking… hell… does M stand for these days anyways?
BMW doesn't like us. They have been producing some of the ugliest cars in the last 5 years. Only BMW sheep are continuing to buy. I for one am not. Love how older BMWs drive but the new ones are so tasteless
😂😂😂 So you're suggesting that my review should be positively biased because I have access to new vehicles. I think you should Google what a review is and get back to me. And also watch the whole video before commenting, because then you'd know that this is my favorite modern BMW and received a glowing recommendation.
Who are you? BMW is trying to appeal to the Asian market and that market seems to like what we call ghetto nonsense in terms of design. What adult would be seen in this car? No one shows up to a meeting or to the club in this clown car.
bmw doesnt like me because they didnt give me a m3cs
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Starting a petition to ban the nut crunchers
Crut nunchers
facts. if i get a used g80 with carbon buckets best believe im selling them and buying normal seats and pocketing the extra cash
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 As long as you factor in the depreciation, all the power to you! I have the F82 M4 non comp and I find the seats perfectly adequate even for track driving.
Give me this with the laser lights and I won't ask for anything else
Literally
Why were lasers discontinued?
Bro deserves way more views per vid
In time
organically.. he''ll get there.. for sure.
Facts
Well watch it on someone's else's phone....😅😅😅😅😅and like him..the UA-camr 😅😅😅😅😅
Dude this is the best unknown UA-cam channel I’ve run into in YEARS!
I had both the G82 M4 and the latest M3 CS, and the M4 felt more stable. Even the lap time of the new M4 CS at Nurburgring is over 8 seconds faster than the M3 CS. Honestly, I don't see the need to pay a premium for the CS.
For around $110k, you can get a 2025 M4 xDrive with ceramic brakes and all the available options. Adding a swan neck rear spoiler, KW V4 coilovers, a body kit, BM3, CS tune, a new wheel set, and a charge air cooler manifold-all of this would keep the total cost under $150k-$160k.
However, if I were to spend that much, I'd consider adding about $30k more and going for a 992.2 GTS instead.
For 50k those upgrades are insanely overpriced. Rather take the aftermarket route and save 40k.
BMW doesn’t like me because I can mod and keep my warranty
How?
@@Mrgotdammit35JB4 or any non DME-invasive tuning. But you can read the transmissions highest torque and by that determined if it has been tuned.
@@Salpeteroxid A couple of BMW techs have also chimed in on reddit and confirmed that they can see if a JB4 has been used but that they won't actually dig around to find out unless something has happened that a tune could have caused (which with the JB4 is pretty unlikely but not impossible).
I always knew they didn't like us
I am lucky to own both the 2022 M5CS and the 2024 M3CS. I think that the M3CS is overall a better car. Love it! What a value! And yes, you are right, trans tune in the M5CS is a lot smoother. But suspension setup on M3CS is superb! Overall, the car in on par with my Project 8 and, to me, that means a lot!
dont own till u pay off loan. bank owns them brother
@startingtech3900 only brokies think everyone takes out a loan for cars like these. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you just assume so because your line of credit nor bank account can't get you either.
You think m3cs is a good value? Its $130k and thats Porsche 911 money…
What's project 8? Also I'm so happy with my F82 M4, took it to the Nürburgring, it ran 290 on the autobahn loaded upp with beers and spirits and a mini fridge and loads of luggage. M-cars are on a different level and I'll never sell this car 😊
What do you do for a living my friend
@Cars with Miles to do a launch with automatic up shifts you just need to put the car into sport +, turn traction to MDM, press the brake, shift the transmission to S3 with the lever, then press the gas until you see the checkered flag in the cluster, then release the brake.
I'll give it a try!
I wouldn't say the jerkiness of the transmission while not fully committed with the throttle is a problem, it just gives you a mechanical feeling and a spirit in the car like older cars.
There is a element of driving in certain vehicles that require different things which you then will learn and discover. If everything should be silky smooth and like a 7-series then a M340 or just a basic 3-series should be that persons choice
who would spec an m3 with a green exterior and red interior accents? Looks like a christmas tree to me
BMW specced this one... So BMW ? 😅
@@CarswithMilesi would like it black and red
@@blocksource4192like mine ;)
the green exterior is the m3cs exclusive. and its ugly as shit LMAO
@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 yeah, totally agree on this ) looks like a radio controlled toy
Would be nice if the outer bolsters could be unlocked with a button, then tilted outward for easy exit and entry. Are you listening, BMW?
This is a honest non too biased review of this car. Gave it its credit and also honest considerations on what most deal with daily with this car
All the “negatives” that make this car difficult to live with on the daily are things people who can afford it, in its limited numbers, won’t care about. This is a track weapon. If you want the one that can cosplay as family friendly daily, get the regular M3
3:45 I actually found the seat (once you are in them) to be extremely comfortable! My wife hated getting in and out of the car but was fine once she was in. The center carbon piece in the seats is far enough forward it doesn’t impact the bits.
the carbon fiber nutcracker seats 😂
I have a G82 M4. The carbon seats are fine
@@MD-xb1qwHappy to hear, thinking of fitting them on my F82 since I really don't want to get a G-series.
@@Salpeteroxid you’ll be fine. The CF notch is mid thigh at 6’ tall.
Nut cruncher = connection for race harness under that cover.
How do you hook up the rest of the belts and does it come with a car or does it have an OEM part number?
BMW loves me because they created a techno violet E36 M3, which is ultra easy to work on, reliable, and turns heads everywhere I go.
Miles, you're the type of creator I would watch whatever content you were doing.
good video bro, this channel definitely underrated 🔥
Found you on auto focus, Like the vids so far.
james may once drove an aston martin vantage with a very uncomfortable seat that crunched his nuts but he loved it. same sentiment here with the seats
The bucket seats is for track use to hold you in position while turning on speed as its a track focused bmw. That glued in cs name for competition sport. U could get the normal m3 with normal seats less stiffer suspension abd less power and u could have same fun soo.
Thanks!
So weird to see the trans jerking around like that. My 2022 Supra seems to really shine when you’re on it but not WOT (it does great WOT too 😂) I used to sell bmw and I never noticed that with the competition model tho I never drove the CS. Great video man
If you go to the BMW museum in Munich - they don’t like you.
Why's that
@@CarswithMiles My cousin shared their experience with me. Long story short - there was lots of passive aggression. However, that was 7 years ago so it could have changed.
@@_IMNNO i had the same experience around 11y ago
@@_IMNNO I went there last year and somehow I got in without paying so I can't complain
Or..or...or.....hear me out.....we could just recycle the E30 and put a B58 from a crashed Supra(because they will crash all of them😂) in it and sell it for half the price... problem solved.
Awesome vid! It was nice meeting you on 7's day!
I’m you buy a CS you better be taking it to the track
You nailed those shifts on that launch💪🏽🔥🔥
Bmw has a talent for choosing the worst colors for great cars
Definitely not, launch colors are on point.
that knee slapper was amazing
Also the look on his face at 3:41.
@9:15 you def have to commit to accelerator to avoid the jerkin
Miles is really good just subscribed and love the channel. ✌️
I did agree on alot of the points showk in the video but after all that, it's still a really cool car
I'll buy one right now. Now where did I put that Monopoly gameboard-money?😁
This thing is gorgeous 😭🔥
Wait your in Jersey? Holy shit my favorite car reviewer is in Jersey🔥🔥🔥
Great review but you gotta figure out the launch control on these BMW's. Come to NJ and you can review my 2025 M4cs and I'll show you how to do launch control, lol.
I live in Jersey!
Great review! Please review a F80 M3.
Idk if its just me that the camera tint actually so good
E92 wanna have a word with you those seats also look like the seats they strap you in on roller coasters
I own an E92 and it's fantastic
Great Stuff!!
they do like us, they just like money more😅
I'll take a M3 Comp, need my sunroof aftermarket everything else
Fair!
I’ll never get the hype over sunroof
Just roll down the windows and get some breeze, no?
BMW saw Lexus annual sales a few years ago and thought: "We gotta get us some big ass grills"
Really like ur reviews!
First time watching this guys videos, really enjoyable 💪
I dont like the new style screen cluster looks like a cyphi lab
What is the name of the color?
Signal green
only thing I disagree with is that u called it a family sedan, I don’t think the 3 series really is a family sedan, and for m3cs money you can be well into x7 for family cars
The view from the front looks a lot like a Charger.
Calling this a family sedan is a tad bit of a stretch! lol
3:40 lol
if you could just buy a CS as you would any other M3, I wonder what the take rate would be? I probably would've gone CS.
I wonder if the LCI M3 will get a CS...
Guess you never heard of the f8x gen cs models. The cs cars are more aggressive, more rare, and more carbon.
Oh I'm aware. But I think this is far more transformative of a change than the last gen CS
you should review the 2024 Elantra N, it's something that most people would actually be able to buy
Waiting for the new one to become available for reviews
a very important question, 2025 m2 or 2025 ct4 v- blackwing?
ct4 cause fhe m2 is really ugly (ive never driven a car)
@@KompadoodleLEL i think they both look good lol
@@T_emporal Lol to each their own, personally not a fan of the new m2 but the last m2 generation i think is gorgeous
I love the M2 but I gotta go with the Blackwing
I need the CSL
3.4 is the new 3.47, used to be 3.5
You can't call this a 'Family Sedan', this is a bonkers sports car.
When it comes to BMW, four doors doesn't mean family sedan.
Let's mark the register❤
I like bmw..but too many plastic parts on the engine… too much maintenance
This video is very well done.
Bmw doesn't like us because we need to pay a subscription for heated seats
I understand your that its not practical but the main reason they made it is to be a four door race kinda car and not a family car bcz why buy a cs for family when theres a competition...main point,m3 cs is not a practical or family car its made for people who like to race on the track😢
...but it has 4 seats
Im not a fan of the m3 taillights, the m4s just look so cleannn
front is still 💩on both
I agree. But the M3 body lines are so much better IMO
M3 looks better overall
Only thing I like on the M4 is the LCI laser taillights
@@pr33tu_ m330i headlights should be on single digit Ms
@@pr33tu_ well it makes the 4 cylinder hybrid c63 sound like shit
The seats are good Bro its a Cs
I like this car but one major problem is no cup holder
Only on the side doors but remember this is a track car so it’s not a priority. I know the F80 had it but idk it would have been dope to make some carbon fiber cup holders in the middle lol
Go sit in an M4 CSL fixed bucket seat and compare to this very comfortable bucket lol
Oh I'm sure it is lol
innit
BMW doesn’t like anyone because they gave us the E90 M5
This generation of M's are all just too-much car for enjoyable daily. The new M440ix is the old M4, imho. As an 8 series daily driver.
BMW hates everyone who has to look at it. Yikes!
The car has more power , lighter , stiffer suspension, more carbon .
i like the F80 better
If BMW is on their BS they give you a CS
if you want a daily sedan get a m340i don't even get a m3 let alone a sedan
0:30
Anything that weighs less than the that other boat of an m car is good
lol you mean the new M5?
That thing is abysmal. Not only does it have an umbilical chord (err… plug-ok hybrid) but it’s a full 1250lbs heavier than the non-M5 AND they’ve eliminated the shifter altogether - let alone the bespoke M shifter that has neutral as a first-class citizen.
What… in the freaking… hell… does M stand for these days anyways?
So, do you start an llc through your content creating business and then write it off as an expense?. Teach me the ways.
BMW doesn't like us. They have been producing some of the ugliest cars in the last 5 years. Only BMW sheep are continuing to buy. I for one am not. Love how older BMWs drive but the new ones are so tasteless
Omg. Those iPad screens are just garbage looking. Why?
Can’t get away from how tragic that front end looks. Awful looking car
How do you start a review complaining when you get to drive these new cars? You're not a car enthusiast you're more a movie critic.
😂😂😂
So you're suggesting that my review should be positively biased because I have access to new vehicles. I think you should Google what a review is and get back to me.
And also watch the whole video before commenting, because then you'd know that this is my favorite modern BMW and received a glowing recommendation.
Absolutely hideous. Thank God for Alfa Romeo!
😂😂BMW could have used the yellow 💛 🤔. That is one ugly green 💚 😜 🤣 😂
#nobiggrille
I'm convince they like making great driving cars (like this one) that look like absolute SHIT!
This car is still hideous, it didn't age well after it's launch !
Who are you?
BMW is trying to appeal to the Asian market and that market seems to like what we call ghetto nonsense in terms of design.
What adult would be seen in this car? No one shows up to a meeting or to the club in this clown car.
That thing is hideous🤢
On top of that, the car is hideous looking.
I don't like the car because it's too expensive for a 3 series
It’s not that expensive just say don’t got it
@@BookOfTheo it‘s very expensive I can buy the M5cs for the same money or a GT63s
@@v12-s65 you aren’t buying both the cars brand new for he same price please cut it out .
@@BookOfTheo idk how much m3 cs would be but m3 wagon in my country is like 170k€ so yeah quite expensive for bmw
That’s one unattractive car.
Man... the design still hasn't grown on me, this color on the CS doesn't help either
Who is this car for? This shares nothing in common with old M3’s. Everything sucks now.