Better Call Saul - 5x6 Wexler vs Goodman - Group Reaction
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2020
- She said WHAT???? Saul betrays Kim in Season 5 Episode 6 of Better Call Saul... but Kim has a different suggestion!!! The Normies review and discuss the episode after the reaction.
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Rhea Seehorn explained that she always saw Kim Wexler as "the child of an addict"
Someone who is comfortable being in situations, often has to clean up other people's messes, but can NEVER trust anyone else to clean up her own mess.
She makes an exception when it comes to Jimmy though, and that's what has come back to bite her in the ass.
I listened to it on a podcast. The channel is Music gear Network. She said that since season 1 she thought her character is a child of an alocholic and wow she did nail that one. If anyone's interested go there watch it. They got Michael Mando and bunch of others in their podcast
The theater kids are some of my favorite side characters in the Breaking Bad-verse.
Someone on reddit a while ago coined the term "Kid Kubricks" for them, with "Discount J.J" being the camera man with glasses. xD
Jimmy was saying that he hid his intentions from Kim as a way of protecting her. In case she was ever questioned about it, she could maintain plausible deniability. So Kim decided that if they were married, she couldn't be compelled to testify against Jimmy, and thus he wouldn't have any excuse to lie to her about stuff. It's a pretty extreme and risky solution to the problem, but it shows you how much she loves Jimmy.
last time this happened in Season 2 when Jimmy showed Kim the advertisement for Davis and Mains and Kim got in trouble for that. And I guess Jimmy learnt from the mistake and tried to protect her this time.
That's a spoiler for the next episode where they explain this but whatever.
Part love and part attachment to broken people - the point of the flashback scene at the beginning.
It’s rumored that she’s playing a much deeper game to fuck over Jimmy, which obviously fails.
@@burstingturtle that would be very interesting but its a little unrealistic i feel
I really thought you were going to shout over the marriage line and miss it.
if they could shut the fuck up in important moments then their reactions would be so much better
we all
@@binarystateofmind2971 Give them a break they’re millennials. They're victims of their ADD. But yeah, they should shut up and discuss it after.
@@alienanxiety Really.
This is the episode that made me just love Kim on a whole new level I want more of her I want her own show more importantly I want a woman like myself.
>this is the best episode of the series
no no this is the best episode of the series *so far*
@Lucas mmm i dunno bad choice road hit kinda different
I wouldn't say it's the best but for sure it's up there man
Literally what i said when i first watched it but if i only i knew
Exactly
@Lucas I don't get the love for chicanery. Like it was really good, but it's not one of the top 3 for me.
I'm extremely disappointed that Daddy Wachtell's "YYYYup!" hasn't become a major internet meme, at least as far as I've seen.
YYYYup!
Lalo became a meme
@@geoxxxplayer1 He did? How? What is his meme about?
true
I really wish you all would understand character nuance and depth and realize that there are no black and white characters in this universe. they are all flawed, even Kevin Wachtell. Rich isn't even a saint as he was the one defending Sandpiper who was defrauding the elderly a few seasons ago. the show will be much more enjoyable once you realize that everyone has layers, everyone is flawed and that's okay.
Every show they watch they can never understand this. Fucking normies. Jk I actually love this channel just wish they would come to terms with this.
You like smelling your own farts, don't you?
Naw, they will not get it.
I know right, they keep acting like kim is an angel and saul is a devil.
That’s Rich’s job as a lawyer to defend his client? Regardless if they’re right or wrong, it’s still their right to have someone represent their case in the best possible light
Jimmy lowkey helped a poor man keep his house and an elderly woman get $200,000. He may be a huckster but he's basically helping the little guy in both cases, he isn't getting anything out of it.
Yeah he has an affinity to fuck up the big fishes and help the little ones haha even in Breaking Bad he still helps the junkies but yeah... Walter is a better client.
But he's not doing it to help the little guy, he's doing it because he loves winning and taking down the big guys.
@@weewer3369 This. And of course that he was originally asked to by Kim. He's definitely not doing it just to be nice.
@@MattSimon1 and likewise, I don't think Kim always does things to help out the little guy either. both of them are complex characters.
@@weewer3369 except we see his office in breaking bad filled with low income clients and if he wanted to keep taking down the big guy he wouldn't have done criminal law. I think he gets the most satisfaction out of helping the little guy but he doesn't even realize it, he thinks he enjoys the money and sticking it to people like Howard but he's never really happy after he makes insane amounts of money in Breaking Bad.
I like The Normies, but I gotta ask: with all the minutes they give at the end to discuss things, do they ever think about why characters do certain things before deciding that they're "bad"? It feels like they just REACT to something without taking the time to internalize all of it first.
@@matthewfortuna4464 I think you're missing my point. I meant them saying WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS BRO instead of trying to understand why. It's almost like they forgot that Chuck was a character on the show or something.
@@bleepy013 Yeah, they can't appreciate complex characters and Gilligan's work, that's for sure. Whole season 5 of Breaking Bad, and probably the whole second half of Better Call Saul, they would say "Main character bad, piece of shit, he must die" without understanding why the character did what they did, and call it a Reaction.
*The Normies* sure live up to their name.
@@tanujmaheshwari5964 Hindsight is a powerful drug.
That's how hot takes work, and knowing that you are recorded doesn't help
It took me 2 times to get what she was thinking. It's because Jimmy said the ONLY reason he lies is because he doesn't want her to get in trouble. So she thinks (partly) that if they're married, they have legal marital privilege and can't be compelled to testify against each other. Thus, he has no obstacles to being honest. Of course there's more going on with her character that's in play, but that's the basic idea she's entertaining. She loves Jimmy, and is trying to solve a problem that needs to be solved.
Keep watching. You got some AWESOME episodes ahead.
Here's a really good breakdown from reddit of why Kim would propose marriage during this fight.
"In the wake of last night's explosive twist, I've seen a lot of people express incredulity towards Kim's marriage proposal. How could she double down on the relationship, after Jimmy exposed himself as an incorrigible con artist? How can she ignore the toxicity enveloping her entire being? Baffling as it all might seem, Kim's emotional journey boasts an uncanny sense of realism, to the point where I wonder if members of the writing staff have experienced similar ordeals. It's a strikingly accurate portrait of romantic addiction and intermittent reinforcement. Speaking as someone who was once engaged to a "Slipping Jimmy"-type figure, allow me to explain my perspective. If I could describe Kim with a single word, it would be "restless." She is a lawyer of lofty ideals and moral aspirations, caught in the drudgery of a callously pragmatic profession. Her strong (though increasingly flexible) sense of ethics probably stems from her abusive childhood, during which she developed internalized guilt to bridge the "moral gap" caused by neglect. Because of this clash between her wants and reality, and her unwillingness to examine her own trauma, she is perpetually dissatisfied with her present circumstances, unable to develop consistent self-esteem, and absolutely petrified of being abandoned. This makes her the perfect target for a volatile, compulsively dishonest partner like Jimmy. For those who've never found themselves in such a relationship, it would be easy to assume that Kim loves Jimmy DESPITE his untrustworthiness, DESPITE his duplicity, and therefore wonder why she won't draw a line. But those are EXACTLY why she's drawn to the relationship, which means her bond only INCREASES the more erratic Jimmy becomes. She craves that rush to distract from her discontent and allow herself to "let loose." Notice how she became "checked out" from the relationship in season 4, in the absence of any drama or high-stakes excitement. And notice how she only recommitted after they pulled off a successful con. She is dependent on the upswings and downswings that come from his wanton behavior, from the danger of their elaborate schemes. Not just emotionally: it's an actual chemical addiction. This brings me to the horrifying topic of "intermittent reinforcement." Put simply, relationships with INCONSISTENT positivity, with massive gulfs between highs and lows, actually foster a greater type of "connection" than healthy ones, due to the massive chemical spikes that accompany the "good times." Her disappointments with Jimmy, her constant anxiety over what he might do, only means that the euphoria of their later triumphs will resonate all the more intensely. If she knew if/when they would come, they would be predictable, and therefore comparatively dulled. He is her opioid. He is her drug. That's why my interpretation of last night's final scene differs from much of what I've been reading. I don't think her 180 degree turn towards marriage was simple stubbornness, of which Kim has plenty. I think she emotionally plummeted after Jimmy betrayed her, and then emotionally skyrocketed when Kevin actually agreed to his terms. While she wouldn't have consciously admitted it, his inexcusable actions sated her addiction, thus reinforcing her commitment. Maybe I'm projecting somewhat, but this is how I've interpreted everything. If you were perplexed by Kim's behavior, and considered it a flaw on the writers' part, hopefully this provides a plausible account."
This is the best explanation I've ever seen.
@@emmab5370 Couldn't agree more.
The one who wrote this...Genius
Did you guys notice that the detective Mike gave info to worked with Hank in BB?
Why? O.o
FakuB20 2 why what?
Tim something, I think?
Bob Grau yup Tim Roberts played by Nigel Gibbs!
Talk in English man, couldn't understand anything here.
*The ability to understand character nuance and depth:* Exists
*The Normies:* We don't do that here.
I cannot wait for the absolute train wreck their reactions to The Wire are gonna be.
L B Wait are they reacting to the Wire?!
@Matt Hill Yep, The Wire is going to replace Better Call Saul
L B Oh they are not prepared for that.
They'll be replacing one Jimmy with another
The second half of this season goes full Breaking Bad-Balls-to-the-wall.
@@theredeemer1644 Lmao, you're not only smack talking BCS, but also Breaking Bad? Get outta here!
@@theredeemer1644 What was the point of that comment
@@theredeemer1644 fucking idiot
In my opinion the public apologies and the small sum is the BEST move Kevin Could have done!! It would show he honestly didn’t know (sins of the father and all lol) and when he found out he took steps to compensate for the issue. It would also give him a chance to change or alter the symbol and protect his bank from any future problems. That honestly was a gift horse Jimmy gave him! Fix it now rather than later.
Agreed. It probably would have led to more business.
“That’s Stockholm syndrome!” Suraj - “yUp.” I’m dead
Jimmy blames himself for Chucks death. He tore him down in court, set him up at the insurance, which led to the breakup between Chuck and HHM, which absolutely was the cause for Chucks suicide. Bc of this he subconciously thought about rescuing people from fires all throughout season 4 (when he makes up a story of Huell saving people from a church fire in Coushatta, when he proposes a plan to light a fire at the courthouse to then save a judge in order to regain his reputation etc). He cant face that pain and guilt tho, and Howard basically admitted that he thinks Chuck mightve killed himself bc of him. So Jimmy can project that guilt on Howard, put the blame on him. Also, the job offer aggravated those feelings since Jimmy knows it's too late now, he's in bed with the cartel. He's on a road he likely won't be able to get off of. If Howard had hired Jimmy earlier, he still couldve gotten with Kim, and without having to endanger her and her reputation, Chuck might still be alive and Jimmy could be set for a prosperous life in happiness. Bc Howard didn't hire him, denied him that opportunity, Jimmy can, in his mind, put the blame for all the terrible choices he made throughout the show and that led him to where he is, on Howard.
Kim likes helping people, it's what she lives for. It validates everything else she does in her life.
Jimmy is always down. He's always in the dirt doing the dirty, amoral thing, provided he can justify the end result.
She needs him around because he's a constant source of someone needing help and he needs her because as long as Kim says it's okay he can do anything he feels ne needs to.
They functionally can't break up right now because they're so codependent on each other.
You guys have to take a good look at Howard and Jimmy. How they both acted after chuck's death. You'll realize why Jimmy is doing these things to Howard. And it's not Howard's fault. Its. Jimmys.
@@matthewfortuna4464 Close, but not enough. He can't accept that Chuck died because of him, so he threw the blame on Howard's shoulders. But now, Howard's doing well and Jimmy can't accept that someone else is fine after Chuck's death while deep down he's not. Jimmy resents that Howard found himself again after Chuck's death because Jimmy only found Saul, not Jimmy.
As an attorney, I immediately understood why she proposed to him at the end of that episode.
I just finished this episode and I haven’t seen the next one yet. It’s because spouses can’t be compelled to testify against each other, right?
This last batch of episodes are the best, especially the last three! Enjoy the ride fam
It is indeed an outrage that Rhea Seahorn has never been nominated for an Emmy.
This aged well. Or the statement itself didn't age well, but the outcome did
@ 31:28 - Krazy 8's name is Domingo. Emilio is the name of his cousin from S1 Breaking Bad.
"wHy ArE U DoINg tHis"
Ah I am so glad you are reacting to these series. Cannot wait for you to see the upcoming interaction between Jimmy and Howard.
LIGHTNING BOLT SHOOT THROUGH MY FINGERTIPS
@@tenthtennant8935 too bad it's not water that he can shoot out his fingertips >:p
"IT WAS BENEATH ME."
re-watching this again i realized jimmy mentioned feeling like a god twice this episode maybe he was up to something haha
"Were they even together?" hahahahahah comedy gold right here
Now i can officially say I am the only one who got the Marriage reference in the first go.
I got it after a couple seconds of thinking.
@@MontgomeryWenis welcome to the club 😂😂
i heard Skyler's line in my head right after I finished the scene "married couples can't be compelled to testify against each other.... So there's that."
more and more saul, less and less jimmy. really think the intro with kim shows how stubborn she is, really important to understanding her pivot at the very end
Love your reaction guys. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Suraj's Howard impression is the best thing ever.
In the beginning of the episode, kim walked away. In the end, she got in a car with a drunk driver.
I really love to see the reactions of this episode's last scene. They are allways like "WTF!" lol
Jimmy and Kimmy have to either go their separate ways or get married to avoid getting each other into legal trouble including getting disbarred and going to prison, but they can only do that if they aren't closely involved with each other or if they're married they can't be forced to testify against each other. Jimmy is also taking out years of frustration and resentment towards Howard and Chuck against Howard, he might not necessarily deserve it though as he was just following Chuck's instructions
Maybe I'm stretching but what do you guys think about a possible purposeful connection in naming between 'Jimmy' and 'Kimmy' we saw this episode? They rhyme and are the same words except one letter. For me I took that as a purposeful choice to show how they are reflections of each other or something similar. Jimmy is someone who has done awful things consistently but then regrets it and may be a good person beneath it all, whereas Kim has done good things more consistently but is tempted by the more rebelious nature within her that Jimmy brings out. I took it that way anyway.
Video producers supporting copyright infringement? Wow. That was funny.
Yeah that scene with Saul going off with the whole spiel had my stomach in a knot when it was happening.
i hope we get to see Wendy.. you know the root beer loving call girl.
Maybe I'm weird? I look forward to the saul moments you lot seem disgusted by them😂 oh no poor Howard 😂
17:34 Anybody know what Rana's yelling?
"WERE THEY EVEN TOGETHER"
BRO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All I gotta say is : "Yup !"
your guys reaction to kim's proposal had me rolling
Why yes Micky, that is the same location. It's also a Farmer's market on Sundays for some reason lol
Dude I'm so glad Micky knows Mr. Show. Mr. Show is easily the most underrated sketch comedy show ever. That was the show that introduced Jack Black to the world just so you know. It was a masterpiece from HBO that lasted for 4 seasons in the late 90s, it was so ahead of its time. I recommend everyone to watch it. You can find all the episodes here on youtube. It's so worth it. I discovered here on youtube last year and I freaked out when Jay Johnston showed up in this season of BCS.
oh and btw, Paul F. Tompkins who voices Mr. Peanutbutter is on Mr. Show as well.
The "Pre-Taped Call-In-Show" sketch from Mr. Show is literally the most funny and genius shit I've ever watched in my life. I really wish that the Bod and David show on Netflix would come back, that was like a sequel to Mr. Show that Netflix tried to pull it out a few years ago, but it wasn't as succesful.
you all definitely talked over the end of the Ep and rewound (twice)...but I do believe none of you actually heard it (the first time)
Here. We. Go.
7:47 Lol, love you Nahid, but this is definitely not the days before Amazon. Amazon's been around since the mid '90s. At this point in the BCS the timeline it's like 2004. I remember my family would order all sorts of stuff from Amazon in 2004. Don't know if you could order a green screen, but Amazon was definitely a big thing already. By 2007 they were already delivering groceries.
So there was one of the most jaw dropping endings to an episode ever. Kim and Saul are such complicated characters you could have several different breakdowns of them and they would all be at least kind of right. To put it simply Kim and Saul love each other but are also addicted to each other. Saul is addicted to Kim's approval while Kim is addicted to the chaotic drama Saul/Jimmy brings to her life. Plus being married provides them a legally protected status which means Saul will have no excuse to lie to Kim.
You guys still haven't figured out why Saul doesn't like Howard? It's the same reason he didn't like Kevin either. They're self important assholes who think they're better than everybody and look down on guys like Saul. He sees them as Chuck.
24:06
You could hear the record scratch in their heads.
“YOU win Jimmy.”
The Normies’ takes on Jimmy and Kim are getting worse and worse lmao
Yep, they seem to think people are either black or white. They can't understand nuance.
@@MontgomeryWenis I can't believe that kind of mentality comes from people who watched Breaking Bad.
It’s...painful 🤦♂️
@@ThatWel5hMan24 Indeed it is. READ *THIS,* NAHID!!
@@ThatWel5hMan24 they are missing everyrhibg is embarrasing
Sticking up for Kevin???? ( who's trying to take an old man's house from him ) "he's a really good guy" laughable
@@matthewfortuna4464 😂😂😂😂
@@gazza4318 What's so funny? That old man is breaking the law by staying on that on land they now own.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 I dont care if he's breaking the law I side with him and saul even Kim did but bottled it last minute I just don't get the moaning and disgust when saul shows up thats what I've been waiting for you'd think they'd never seen bb also they really should hate Mike he's a murderer? I cant wait to see them all cry when they see what Kim suggests 😂 they are going to be so disappointed 😂😂😂
@@gazza4318 Well, I don't care how long that old man's been on that land. Mesa Vesde legally owns it and he's in the wrong for staying on their land. The old man should leave the easy way(just walk away) or the hard way(jail). And Kim should do her job as a lawyer and represent her client(which is Mesa Vesde) and Jimmy should mind his own business.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 😂😂😂
Awesome!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I love how these dummies are all quick to hate on jimmy but give kim a pass at every turn cx
It’s either you walk alone for 5 miles or get on the car with a drunk driver.
Saul is the GOAT
No, you cannot imagine... Better Call Saul is a dark comedy and you kids just do not get it.
This reminded me of my own reaction back when it aired.
Rich and Howard need to team up and create their own firm.
Yes, I'm sure the photographer cares, especially when it's been stolen and used for a bank! Purchasing a print does not allow you to use it for your own commercial purposes. That was one of the best things Jimmy has ever done, actually.
I just got done with this episode. I haven’t seen the next one yet, but I assume she wants to get married because spouses can’t testify against each other in court right?
You didn't recognise the detective and Hank's friend from breaking bad
But... this was what kim wanted tho? He only did what kim told him to do. Why are they so upset? Tf. Weirdos.
Why aren’t the normies watvhing ozark?
this is not a spoiler in any way.. cause I have no idea what is going to happen in the end.. but I bet Kim and Gene end up meeting up..
Saul did kind of sell his mother. He stole from the register.
Just stop with the "this is where there relationship ends!" shit. You've literally said that dozens of times. Just give it up and enjoy the show. Jesus Christ.
YYYYYUP!
I agree Suraj. Up to this point, it's the best episode of the series. But it only gets better!
Jimmy told her repeatedly that if she stops he stops. Kim kept wanting to push and push. Saul proved how great of an attorney he is behind all his fuckery and gimmicks.
Yep!!!
Look at all these comments trying to explain the ending.... lmao
bruh If Howard kills himself I'm gonna lose it
Guys one thing I want to add is that this show has no good people. Everyone is bad here. Kim and Jimmy and rick and Kevin and Jimmy and sadly the coolest fucking character MIKE
The reason she sees marriage as a fix...is because they can't be forced to incriminate each other.
What about Money Heist reaction?😣
Jimmy had it out for Howard because Howard put Kim in Doc review twice and then later, Howard forced Chuck out of HHM and resulted in his suicide. Revenge.
oh man i was honestly getting kinda annoyed at how much you guys were talking, i thought you would ruin the best part of the episode, but i love that it was so intense that you all just went quiet and started cringing.. haha so good
EITHER YOU BREAKUP OR DOUBLE DOWN!
#WexlerForTheWin
I think it’s pretty goddamn obvious why this show never gets wards recognition: the show isn’t WOKE!
And secondly, people who chose not to watch this clearly were not fans of Breaking Bad because how could you not want more? And all it took was the first episode to hook you in and eventually realize to this point that this is a great show in its own right.
i feel like yall dont get how to think about a characters reasoning at all. Obviously jimmy is dead wrong but its like you cant even see pretty simple crap
You love em, You hate em, You love them, OH but now I HATE EM!!!!!!!!
20:43 LMAO
Kim realized that she could either escape the relationship or double down and go all in. She chose the latter.
Please dont put spoilers in the title! Some people have to wait for Netflix to get this season!
You're fault for not watching it, spoiler rule dosent apply anymore.
@@dragerdet ^ ahem, "Some people have to wait for Netflix"
@@eye2500 Hmm, I guess I'll blame Vince Gillian then. I don't know if he thought of the title floating around long before people saw it or not.
YUP!
2:16 Jimmy would have got beaten but not Saul
Where’s Brown PAT? He would’ve loved this
I feel like Jimmy was expecting Kim to leave him for that, I think he's either trying to push everyone 'normal' out of his life (both to protect them, and from his own sense of rejection from that world) or he's just trying to tear it all down around him.
(Mostly unrelated prediction below, it might be a bit spoilery for the rest of this series)
I think eventually Kim runs off with Lalo.
Pew Pew foo foo
stop talking over everything lol
@@matthewfortuna4464 Right!
This is not a market substitute, watch the original content before watching the reaction
React to the sons of anarchy please
This is probably heresy. But I like Better Call Saul more than Breaking Bad. I just did not give and hit about Skylar or Walt Jr or Ted. They just took time away from more interesting storylines. I understand you couldn’t wish em away but I find tense dinners boring.
I would say Breaking Bad had higher highs but lower lows.
Yeah everything with Walt’s family is super skippable. The supporting characters in BCS are far superior. It’s overall just a superior show.
@Chosey no I actually think it is. Sounds crazy I know but i truly think it’s better.
*YYUP*
Legend of korra watch it it's a spin of but good if you haven't seen avatar watch that shit 🤦
Kim leaving her mom may be foreshadowing her leaving Saul
Hey normies....just a request plzzz react to the My Hero Academia Movie : Heroes Rising
i had the same reaction. Waiting a week until the next one sucked
Wow toxic posting when I’m in school