The Flow Hive now BIGGER and BETTER than before, Assembly Guide 10 Frame! Honey Bee Hive
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this video, I take you step-by-step as I review and assemble the NEW Flow Hive LARGER and better for cold climates where you need more winter resources for your bees.
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How to assemble the NEW 10 Frame Langstroth Compatible 7 Frame Flow Hive.
Review of improvements, fit and finish. The old/original FlowHive was designed for the 8 Frame Langstroth woodenware, so I only purchased the 7 Frame Supers (I have four of those) from Flow.
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I personally do NOT sell flowhives or flowhive components, this is an independent review/presentation. I am not a part of their company and have not been directed in any way by the people of Honey Flow. I share the good or bad equally.
Now, they finally came out with a larger bottom board and brood box that allows me to also use my 10 frame deep and medium boxes with flow-components.
They also improved the overall fit and finish with their laser cut hoop pine boxes.
Very happy with these, watch and learn why.
Links below.
Non-Toxic Water Based Gorilla Glue Used Here: amzn.to/2zIsvxu
Where to get this large FlowHive (avoid copies)
www.honeyflow....
First time buyers can get a discount, just send me a private message with your e-mail and I'll take care of it.
If you want one piece food grade plastic frames, here is a link to what I'm currently using. Double Beeswax Dipped by Acorn
They are on Amazon: goo.gl/Sfghm8
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When starting your honey bee colony, I strongly recommend that you purchase a nuc (nucleus) of five frames. It's the most self-contained honey bee starter package you can get. Brood will already be hatching, the Queen will be laying and they will go straight to work drawing out new comb in your hive.
If you buy Package Bees, the Queen is new to the workers, they have to draw out all new comb and you won't see new hatching bees for at least 23 days from installation.
If you capture a swarm, you have the queen that was rejected or superseded, the number of workers is wide and varied, they must start from scratch and draw out all new comb before the queen can lay eggs. You will not know the genetic line of the Queen and the workers may be older and not in their comb building prime.
You should not expect to buy a hive, put it in your apiary and expect honey bees to find it and move in. It's not like a bird house, you must locate a good source for your honey bees and thoughtfully purchase and install them.
Are you building your own boxes and need the dimensions? Follow this link for detailed information: www.honeyflow....
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I was born and raised in Western New York state near Lake Erie.My grandfather original had 70 acres fruit farm.When he soldout and moved he kept 6 hives the old old white boxes.He was very familiar with taking honey and when his grand kids reached ten years he showed us how to take the honey from the hives and use a centrifuge to separate the honey.Slow and patient was his motto.
We rarely got stung following his instructions. We used the smoker method to calm the hive.We divided the harvest thruout the neighborhood. One neighbor raised goats and we got goats milk in trade with honey,,,, Way better and richer than cow's milk. Another raised rabbits and we got baby rabbits in exchange,raised to adults and exhibited at the Old Erie County Fair at Hamburg NY.As an adult my habit of a tablespoon of RAW honey each morning continues.Never heard of these new type hives till I saw this channel.Very interesting.Curious about the cost
Sounds like you have lots of fantastic memories, and I'm a huge fan of the barter system you describe. :)
This is by far the best Chanel I've seen. I'm just now starting to get ready to get started next spring and this Chanel takes away a lot of my insecurities
Thank you, Richard.
Just from a videographer standpoint, you do an excellent job setting up your shots, video quality, flow, narration, sound are all superb. So nice to see a professional tutorial done as well as this.
Wow, thank you so much for that! I do my best :)
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My name is Nancy Lee from Pemberton NJ and I have been watching you and Flow Hive from Australia for several years prior to my son surprise me with the best Flow Hive for my birthday. We used Eco Wood to treat the cedar wood from watching your video.
We picked up the bees May 1st 2022 for my Flow Hive. I am very excited to have my family of bees. Well that excitement lasted only a few days. We had May showers on & off for a few days. Everyday I would go to look at the hive and bees and I noticed the brood box has a horizontal crack from one end to the other hand. The 2 triangle roof pieces of cedar is damaged from being outside only for a couple of days. I was literally in shock having my son spend soo my to getting his mom the best. Contacted the company about the damage, sent them several detailed photos and they told my son this happened because we used Eco Wood and refused to stand behind their product. The love of their product and the bees became such a heartbreak and disappointment.
I have spent several months dealing with this and all I'm getting runaround and they have no intention of replacing their
overpriced product.
Fredrick Dunn is a podcaster from North PA who has 124K Subscribers to almost 1000 videos. This is the 1st comment that I have posted and I will do it with every single one online since you don't stand behind your overpriced garbage.
I have Flow hive gear all over my apiary, I use the Cedar boxes from them and have eco-treated 50% of my flow-hives. I have not had a single hive crack as you've described. But then, I'm not at all part of their warranty or service system. Their Cedar hives can go without any treatment at all, I have those with and without Eco-Wood. Have you tried contacting the Eco-Wood Company and talking to them about the issue with Flow-Hive saying that their Eco-Wood Treatment voids any Flow-Hive Warranty? They would definitely be interested in that statement as it impacts Eco-Wood marketability. The Flow-Hive remains one of my favorite hive designs, and I don't see a problem at all with Eco wood being used on Flow-Hives.
@@FrederickDunn Hi Fred,
Thank you for your reply, I am not at all blaming you or the Eco Wood. Infact, we treat everything outside with Eco Wood. I feel that I enjoy & learned a lot watching your videos throughout the past several years. I started to watch Flow Hive and decided that I loved their system before I started your program. So, I am NOT blaming you.
I understand that thing do happen from time to time.
What I am NOT happy with is that the Flow company treated me like a jerk and they blamed everything on Eco Wood and how dare I use EW rather than a natural oil to Cedar. And NOT stand behind their overpriced broken product.
When I walk toward my bee hive the first thing I see is an overpriced ugly waterproof caulking brood box and no honey Flow hive.
Fred, I still watch your videos and enjoy them.
@@FrederickDunn Hi Fred,
Thank you for your reply, I am not at all blaming you or the Eco Wood. Infact, we treat everything outside with Eco Wood. I feel that I enjoy & learned a lot watching your videos throughout the past several years. I started to watch Flow Hive and decided that I loved their system before I started your program. So, I am NOT blaming you.
I understand that thing do happen from time to time.
What I am NOT happy with is that the Flow company treated me like a jerk and they blamed everything on Eco Wood and how dare I use EW rather than a natural oil to Cedar. And NOT stand behind their overpriced broken product.
When I walk toward my bee hive the first thing I see is an overpriced ugly waterproof caulking brood box and no honey Flow hive.
Fred, I still watch your videos and enjoy them.
This is like the beekeeping version of watching Bob Ross.
Thank you, that's a very flattering comparison :)
I'm looking into Beekeeping. This is great information to help me decide where to begin.
Glad it was helpful!
i just enjoy your videos so much. they're so well-explained, well-lit, well-framed; each one is an absolute treat. i love coming along on your journey, even though i won't be getting a hive of my own any time soon (no garden yet). living vicariously!! 🤗
can't wait to see what your experiences are with this new flow setup, down the line. I'm really impressed by all the improvements they made, you can tell they took customer feedback to heart and implemented as much as they could
Thank you so much BUbblegum :)
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I just want to let you know, you're doing an excellent job. I don't know much about bees and honey, but after watching 4 of your videos you make me want to build a hive.
Thank you MarieBear993, I'm glad to have been a part of your inspiration :)
This one looks so much better than the first one you received.
Indeed!
Oh, and because of your videos I decided to try beekeeping. I just got my first bees a couple weeks ago.
OOOohhhh... you're into it now! I hope that you have great success with your bees and do enjoy managing them! Because of MY videos? Thanks for sharing that, I hope the information I've shared provided you with reasonable expectations.
I've spent the best part of this evening watching your wonderful videos on the Flow Hive. Even though I can't consider taking up beekeeping any time soon (I travel too often for work) I'm keen to join a local group of amateur bee keepers where I live in the UK so I can help them support and increase the local bee population. I've learnt so much from all the information you share and the brilliant video footage you produce. So glad I chanced upon your channel. Now I want to learn more about all the other activities on your farm! Please do keep up your fantastic work. UA-cam needs more content creators like you.
Thank you so much, what a wonderful comment! I like that you are planning to support your local beekeeper group even though you are on the move too much to have them yourself. In the next couple of weeks, I'll be sharing more about behavior inside the hive with close up video segments supporting my commentary. So glad you are enjoying what I do and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Frederick Dunn I'll keep an eye out for those videos. Thanks for letting me know!
thank you. and you're correct, by watching your other vids, you *did* answer my other questions before I had even thought of them!!
That's great news! Thank you.
Fred, I personally do not use any glue on the wood. The bee has such a sensitive nose that this might affect them liking the hive or not. This is a preference call on my part. You said the wood was laser cut and from Australia right ??? Since the wood is burn cut it give wood a lot more water proofing finish on the board ends. Nice work fella too.
I use the glue on all of my hives, it helps keep the water out of the joints where a lot of deterioration can occur. I also prefer glue to screws and often don't use screws. That's valuable later on if the wood is to be cut up or burned at the end of its useful life. Each wood frame inside the hive is also glued and I don't use tacks on those. The bees work the area that has been glued equally. I don't think dried wood glue (Titebond) puts off a discernable or objectionable odor that the bees respond to.
@@FrederickDunn When I tested to see if the bees object to titebond it was fifty fifty and when I used gorilla glue it proved that the bees also do not like this product. That is just what the experiments I done prove that fact. I fasten with stainless steel wood screws. Peace will keep in touch Rich. Good day. VF
Love your videos. Way to be fair and impartial.
Hi Shane, thank you so much!
I fell in love with this system.
Fred, I always learn so much from your quality videos. Thank you for another fantastic learning opportunity.
Hi Denise, thank you so much for watching and for your nice comment!
The original Flow Hives were produced by Bee Thinking in Portland and their quality control was erratic at best. Subsequently, they have recently gone out of business, which is bad for me and others that had recently ordered products from them that we will never receive. I'm glad Flow has improved their boxes. I just wish they were less expensive. 😊
Wow, I had no idea that the Portland company went out of business, that's terrible news. My first Flow product was actually from Lancaster, PA and it had some problems. The FlowHive definitely thins the wallet.
The quality is so much better than the shoddy first model you had. Great video once again.
I love that you haven't lost a bee in those flow frames. I just may make these my new bee hives. :)
They are certainly very interesting to work with and observe. I wish you well, if you do decide to purchase a flow super of complete hive, I can get you $50.00 off if you provide your e-mail.. just message me if that sounds good. Have a great week Mizvy!
Frederick Dunn - are you an affiliate?
As usual, brilliant advice and analysis from an artisan filmmaker. Thank you
Thank you so much Ian!
That answers a few questions the mail one was how the honey 🍯is drained.. now I know. Again what was your reason for not buying a 1 gen flow hive? Then what is a decent 1 bee hive to get. I have 5 stacked $200 or brooded box $100 . I have to get a used set up . Ty mr. Dunn
Wow, awesome. Newest version of flow hive has all the previous flaws corrected. Saw ur previous videos where u pointed out the flaws. Ur comments on how u like this new & improved version says a lot. Flow hive manufacturers have to been watching ur videos, & corrected flaws & made improvements. I'm glad u like this version. How much does this newer version costs? The version u showed in this video.
The link is in the video description, thanks again Peter!
I don't have bees, and most likely will never. but i love listen to your videos because your voice is relaxing
Ohhh thank you so much!
That hive is a thing of beauty. ☺️
almost too good to put out in the apiary :)
Excellent video very informative very easy to understand and excellent video quality thank you very much for putting this together. I am extremely interested in the flow hive I'm being able to make my own honey, I am in Florida so we have extremely long spring and summer seasons here. I'm hoping that this system will do well.
I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you so much!
Thank you for watching and commenting Stephanie, I'm so glad you are learning from my videos :)
Another absolutely wonderful video, thank you for posting. I really love the appearance of the Hoop Pine with laser cut edges.
Thank you so much and yes, the laser cut joints are truly flawless. Everything I've received from Flow this year has been perfect! Thanks for taking time to comment.
Wow very good review about how working in side ♥
Thank you. As always, very informative. I enjoy your videos as I am learning about honey bee keeping.
You are very welcome and thank you for taking the time to comment :)
Awesome video.
so now that they have done what YOU want you are NOW HAPPY!!!
Indeed I am :)
Thank you for your very professional videos. I am very impressed with all your presentations. I will use them to set up my flow hive.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate comments like yours, very encouraging that I'm on the right track :)
Great assembly video for the Flow Hive👍
Thank you TallCat :)
Your voice and the way you speak/narrate reminds me of the narrator from How it's Made , it's very soothing.
Always love your flowhive videos. I'm so happy they have upgraded all of the issues people were having with the first version. 👍
Thank you Nature's Cadence.
You da man, Fred! My wife was watching this with me, and she said your voice reminds her of the painter, Bob Ross (Ina good way).
Thank you again, I really enjoy being compared with Bob! I do enjoy oil painting by the way :)
Thank you Dunn. For sharing information in a lucid manner about hive. My question about this is, why can't we use metallic frames instead of wooden things. I will wait for your reply. Thank you
Thanks for watching and for such a nice compliment. Wood is an insulator and lighter in weight, even aluminum is heavy. Bees like to chew on wood to some degree and they can't alter metal in that way. Last, metal transmits heat and cold through conduction which may result in additional condensation which may oxidize the surface of metals, even aluminum oxidizes to a white powder. For now, wood seems to be the best, or food grade plastics which can be coated in bees wax.
Thank you for the video and caring so much for the BEES not to many care.
Thank you Art, so nice of you to stop and leave such a nice comment.
Thank you Fred clear and organised it really helped me...
FYI: the '90 degree triangle' is actually called a 'speed square'.
OOOhhhhh thank you so much! :)
@@FrederickDunn lmao. Like we all didnt know that. But someone had to be THAT GUY bahahaha. I dont even like honey but after watching about 100 videos this week of these hives. I'm gonna have to get one. Just to do it and provide more bees for the world. Maybe someone will enjoy the honey I donate.
@@24Redneck48 Make sure you grow PLENTY of flowering plants that are good for honey near the area where you want to keep your hives, and I would also go through and remove any unwanted plants you don't want to taint your honey. I would say do a good 1-mile radius scour from your hive location being the central point, and be extremely thorough - and take your time on this part - don't try to "get it all done in 1 day". This is especially important if you have any poisonous flowering plants in your area - be sure to rip those completely out by the root. If you are able to grow tons of great plants for your bees which are honey safe near your hives - that will make your honey taste that much better, and it will make it SO much easier for your bees to forage and make plenty of honey! :) Also be very mindful about temperature. If you live in an area where the winters drop below 45F - you will need someplace to store them which is climate controlled (where you can keep your bees between 60-65 During the winter - make sure they are fed, and you are able to warm them up every now and then so they can be feed for a day or so - then allow it to go back to the 60-65 cycle. If you're just starting out - read tons of books on the subject before you start - you don't want to have a great super docile hive of bees die off on your first winter - it is very discouraging - and you don't want to have them deal with varroa issues and all kinds of things you need to look out for. The Flow hive does make extracting the honey easier - but 95% of beekeeping is done before that stage - and requires work and dedication. Cheers and good luck!
oh impressive high quality materials.
Yes, they've come a long way from their first line of boxes. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Keep making more videos about flow hive and beekeeping. I really enjoy them. They are done with lots of details. It's a shame I don't have the space to take care of bees.
VERY NICELY presented! Outstanding job. Thank you so much!
Thank you for taking the time to comment!
How many brewed boxes can you have on a hive and how much is a boxes for first time starters. This looks like a better setup for bee's an to protect them from injuries on collecting the honey
I generally have one deep brood box then at least one medium honey super before adding the Flow-Super... cost points are on their website if you follow the link I provided in the description.
My jury is still out on the flow hive. It seems like a wonderful idea but I think for new beekeepers the standard Langstroth is the best way to go.
Hi Denny, I always say, learn about the bees first, equipment second... beekeeping practices remain the same no matter if the keeper chooses top-bar, Langstroth, or FlowHives. Thanks for taking time to watch and comment.
They did improve that system quite a bit in their manufacturing aspect. That video you started with and this system the construction was very poor and the missing materials were terrible, but it seems they went from beta to finished product and really managed to improve what seems to be an efficient beehive.
agreed!
This is a very cool device, i’d buy it if i had a big back yard
Thanks for watching Adam, yes, flowhives are excellent and I'm sorry you can't have bees. Maybe some day?
Well done 👌🙌 very informative
Thank you, I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Can't wait to get one of these!
I'm sure you'll enjoy having it.
I am starting my apiary next season. I will be using this product.
🐝i was shown one these free flow hives &given a jar of Honey Along the river 2017 where this guy kept a few Hives Taste & runs so good Oz Straya🦘invention 25yr old lad Qld oz👍
Walking along the River we seen about 50 Hives in tree hollows 🐝🐝🌳🐝🐝🐝Found Freds Videos & find his Videos a good watch - FredsPaperwasp Test 🐝Well you Learn something everyday Paper wasp are good to have around they hate yellowJackets 👍chem free
clever design
I agree :)
Hi Frederick, con la ayuda del vídeo pude armar mis cajas, ahora que color de pintura me aconsejas para utilizar en mis cajas Flow Hive
Hi Everyone! There is a NEW Flow-Hive out, it's called the FlowHive2 Click here to see a teaser! ua-cam.com/video/wo8Lyn5xoog/v-deo.html
How to get Flow-Hives through Cold Winters: ua-cam.com/video/CZsGV1F8xbQ/v-deo.html
From where we can order online to india
Very good
Really enjoy your videos sir, I hope to maybe keep bees one day
Thank you Austin!
I just watched your video and found it very informative. How do you manage to keep all the brood in a single deep without the bee’s swarming. A typical hive has two deeps for brood.
During peak productions season, I add medium supers. Brood rarely goes beyond a single deep and medium super here. That's my winter configuration.
Thank you for the video. In the Milw. WI area where I have heard radio ads for the Flow Hive. I have never dealt with bees and will be moving to New Mexico soon. I am interested in educating myself regarding bee keeping there.
There are radio ads for the FlowHive? Wow, that's new. New Mexico has some great areas for bees while others are just too dry most of the year. Thanks for watching and comenting!
Great video . My Question is How much It Cost ? Hope You can Tell me I would like to Start With Bees
Link in the video description.
Such amazing video man.
Thank you !
nice and relaxing video.
Thank you!
You say, "Sometimes people have problems with the pins splitting this thin wood." The solution to this is an old carpenter's trick. Flatten the tip of the nail a little bit with a hammer. The wood fibers are broken when driving the nail instead of splitting the wood.
That is indeed a great method, thanks Cliff!
Gracias muy claro
What a fantastic improvement in quality control over your first one/two. Was that one sent from AU or made here in Oregon?
Have you measured the cell size? if so please let us know what it is as I will be purchasing my Flow Hive in a few months but I want to keep my bees small cell. I guess cell size in the super won't affect them too much but it would be great if they were at least down to 5.1mm if not 4.9mm
The wood materials shipping box was labeled Millington, Tennessee.
The cell size is unchanged, the FlowFrames are the same as before.
Frederick Dunn interesting, something I read had them cutting parts in Oregon just a few weeks ago.
Frederick Dunn that very first one you originally received missing all that hardware was from Lancaster PA if I’m not mistaken.
Lancaster PA by the same folks that bring you the Amish miracle fireplace!
Interesting. It looks like this might result in considerably less effort than traditional methods. It might just be(e) enough to attract a newbie (or new-bee?).
Will be buying this... Thanks
Oh! I hope you'll use my discount link :)
Nice video, I would like to know the thickness of the wood used to make the boxes plz
3/4" tm
It's an awesome hive but for as much as it costs it should come assembled.
It definitely takes quite a while to assemble. I think it's a matter of shipping larger boxes. If someone wanted to buy them, do the assembly and then sell for a little more I think there would definitely be takers.
Hi... Thanks for this video... Maybe someone has asked this question before ???
I'm in Canada, and we generally have a second super, above the brood super, with a Queen excluder on top, so that the bees have enough honey stored for themselves for the Winter...
I'm assuming that I can add the 7 frame flow super on top of these two...
Do I need to order a second medium/deep box c/w frames from FlowHive just so the complete hive "matches" ???
Thanks...
I was just messaging Flowhive about that very thing - Since in the colder climates, my method is to put the brood box on first, then at least a medium super which they fill prior to adding the Flow-Super which is removed in winter. Flow doesn't currently offer medium supers, only deeps. This results in a very tall system with a small footprint when talking about their 6 frame units. And the deep honey supers are extremely heavy. I'd like to see them offer a "cold weather kit", but for now, they only offer deeps.
You have to wonder, rather than tilt the whole hive back, or require someone to tilt it before harvest, why not just angle the bottom part where the honey flows out of it?
Just make the bottom of the honey harvest frame 1 inch longer on the side where the tap goes in.
You should contact them with that suggestion :)
Thank U man, it's a very nice, helpful video.
Love your videos on the flow systems. Extremely informative and makes me want to watch your other videos. Do you happen to also raise solitary bees as well?
Thank you so much and yes, we provide nesting tubes for orchard/mason bees.... other than that, I don't actually "raise" them :)
Excelente...!!!
A tip from another flow hive video: in order not to lose the transparent caps of the frames paint them!
Thanks for that. I haven't lost one yet, but wouldn't hurt to mark them.
I have been watching your videos and I decided to try beekiping. I have some questions 1) Do you know if all kind of bees will like these plastic hives? 2) I live in Sonora, Mexico where the heat in summer is really high up to 120 F Do you expect any issues with Flow Hive?
Hi Frank, first, thank you so much for watching my videos! Bees accepting and working or not working with the flow-frames has not been evident by genetic line of bees based on my observations, even I have bees that never quite fill the flow-frames. This has largely to do with the productivity of the colony as those same bees do build comb on Acorn wax coated plastic frames. Sonora, Mexico (I've loved my Mexico trips in the past) will require you to shade your honey bee hives no matter what you put inside them. Your bees would die out from heat before your flow-frames would attain a temperature high enough to cause the plastic to become unstable or break down materially in my estimation. I've had them in "hot-boxes" for evaluation and temps rose well above 180 deg. f, where the older Pierco Plastic frames failed by warping and the support ears came completely off of 5% of them. The Flow-Frames showed no physical deterioration under the same conditions. Given shade and plenty of water resources, your bees will keep the hive interior under 100 deg. f unless they are in failure.
Great job Fred! A+++
Thanks for the information
You're welcome :)
Would you add another box in between the brood box and the flow frame? I'm thinking that the middle box would be honey for the hive, and the flow hive would be what you harvest.
Yes, that's exactly what I recommend. I have two deeps and one medium super below the flowsuper on most of my hives.
Thank you Sir for this valuable informations ! Keep going ^__^
You are very welcome and thank you for taking your valuable time to watch and comment!
Is this sold separately or ( Brood box and Flow Hive )as a kit ? Oop's , I see you posted a link ! TY.
Glad you found the link :)
Nice!
Thanks!
Are these things actually worth it ? I mean do they help you make more money or are they just saving you time and energy ?
I'm not a bee keeper myself but seems like paying that kinda money for a wooden box with some proprietary screens is quite the investment.
HI Dr Trollish, the purpose, in my opinion, is not to enhance the ability to earn more money with bees or get honey faster. It's for the small scale bee enthusiast who really isn't "value" shopping and wants the ability to take honey from hive-to-jar without filters, uncapping, or spinning. They can make keeping honey bees "appear" easier, but really nothing has changed other than the ability to remove honey in small quantities at the proper moment. It is definitely less intrusive on the bees and less damaging to their overall resources, meaning comb structure that requires enormous effort on the part of the bees to restore. Penny wise rural bee keepers won't be buying these, but urban folks with plenty of disposable income will have them in their veggie gardens and on terraces and rooftops. It's not the hands-off method that many people think they are.
Have you ever seen a queen bee get through a queen excluder? Or some other kind of path inside the Flow Super?
I have not seen that happen, but it's possible, particularly with new un-mated queens.
Great video! I was reading in the comments and I saw that you recommend for beginners to use a traditional longstroth setup, I was wondering if there was a set available online that you would recommend as I am wanting to get into all this action!
Hi Edgy, for a startup kit, I recommend two sources and in my opinion, they are basically equal. www.BetterBee.com and www.Dadant.com they both offer really nice complete starter kits. Thanks for watching and I hope you do venture into beekeeping.
Ok so the traditional frames in the lower section is the normal food supply for the colony and then the extra they fill in the upper flow hive section for us to collect honey from leaving their natural food supply for the winter? The Queen excluder is set between? Still trying to get a full understanding of this. If you have a video on beehives 101 that would be great ! :-)
Yes, but I have to add another medium super above the brood box and then the flow-super. I find that two boxes are better when and if a long winter hits. I don't personally use queen excluders unless the flow-super is going on early, before the bees have established a solid layer of honey above the brood.
Hi Frederick, do you think a flow hive are better than a classic hives, I live upstate NY and I want just to start this june, will I have some honey this season on not, thank you
Hi Kari, I'm not saying they are "better" but I certainly do much prefer them when it comes time to take off some honey. As for if you'll get honey from one in the first season, there are just too many variables for me to give a good answer to that. 50% of the hives I put flow supers on my first year didn't fill them, but 50% did, so it's sort of pot-luck as to how your bees will or won't work the frames. I wish I could give a firm answer, but can't.
Frederick Dunn yes you help me very good, and it's good to change ideas, I think flow hives are easy and time saver, I will order some of them right now from alibaba, thank you very much
You're very welcome Kari! All the best!
Frederick , is there a screen on top before roof goes on? How do the bee's go in and out of the top box?
There is a cover and inner cover. The bees travel in and out via the landing board entry only. BUT, TONIGHT :) I had a video going live that explains the top entry alterations that I'm adding in order to speed forager access to the upper frames. :)
being plastic, and moveable, do you need to do anything differently for winters? do you take another super to set on for a period of time so the bees have time to actually set up stores for winter? also, what are the bees doing with the pollen while the flow frames are on? What do you do regarding pollen? where can they store pollen for later eating or for feeding brood. .
thanks so much for the instructions and demonstrations
Hi High Standards, please watch my other UA-cam vids on The FlowHives. I use double deeps most often and there is where the bees store their pollen and honey for winter. I use FlowSupers in the upper boxes only.
Thank you. I'd never heard of them until I saw your last video...any chance you might become a distributor her in North America?
Me? A distributor? I can safely say no to that question. I already have more than enough to do :)
Dang! There went THAT idea.😢
The concept of the flow hive is great, but these hives seem to only work ideally in specific regions where pollen and nectar flow throughout most of the year.
They work fine for me Kyle, but it's true that some keepers have minimal results with them.
Hi Frederick, I have a question regarding beekeeping in general but haven't found any definite 100% confident answers so I thought i'd ask for your input; in my situation I am planning to have one 8 frame brood box and then a 6 frame flowhive super on top of that, i'm in Western Australia so the winter is not harsh at all, so my question is - will having two brood boxes increase honey production in the flowhive super or will having one be more efficient?
Hi Dkruzy, sorry I didn't notice your comment sooner. Absolutely nothing wrong with your idea of using a standard 8 frame bottom board and brood box. I'm not familiar with your climate, but I think that starting off with two brood boxes is a good idea to allow your colony to grow large and get settled with their resources, then adding the third box as the FlowSuper would or should fill up quicker and you're allowing the bees plenty of resources for times of reduced resources in the environment. I was visiting with a first year beekeeper recently and he had one deep brood box and the next box is the flowsuper, he took off honey right away and I had to point out that he basically left his colony without any meaningful resources. I always suggest allowing the bees to build in numbers and resources before adding supers, you're on the right track!
How does the bee go up to flow frame from brooding box? bottom of flow frame is I believe honey flow area?
It's the same as with any frames, they simply go up through the frames on the face of the comb and begin their work :)
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I'm a resident of Brazil
Where can I order this hybrid set and how much is it I’m very interested thank you
The link is in the video description.
(im in the process of readying my apiary and plan on raising bees next spring, so I apologize if im asking really novice questions) BUT... with those brood box wood frames, you mentioned you use gorilla glue to hold them together, is this 100% needed? Like when the bees go through and seal everything, would that be enough if you just used the pins? Also, is that glue safe around bees? I would assume so, as you've been doing this expertly for a while now and I don't think you'd offer bad advise, im just curious.
I use glue because I'm an overkill kind of guy. The glue is non-toxic to people and non-toxic to bees, particularly after drying. I also use Elmer's wood glue, they both do the job. YES, the pins are enough, I just find that I damage fewer pieces and work faster with the glue.
Thank you for the quick response. Your videos documenting your work are really helpful and I look forward to seeing what you put out next!
Thank you Tim, I'm so glad you are learning from them. We have lots of new subjects coming up this spring and summer. I think you will continue to enjoy this series :)
In the flow hive, Can you put a thin metal strip along the back top so you dont have to turn the backout screw as much?
Yes, you could shim it even with a thin strip of wood if you like. The adjustment is consistent across the entire box, so yes that would definitely work.
Hello Mr. Frederick Dunn how r u i saw ur hive house film, Sir I want to know where it is available n what is price for this complete house, can u tell us
Thanks a lot n waiting for reply
It is the very first link in the video description, you can find out everything there.. thanks :) wishing you all the best.
Isn't lasercut joints also good because it burns the wood which makes the bee not touch it due the ash texture? Meaning, it might be easier to pull off once needed. Of course, I guess it goes away after one year.
Hi Helveteshit, none of the laser burned surfaces face the interior, so the bees really have no contact with those surfaces. It goes away after a year? I didn't know that and it will be interesting to see. I'm using a clear finish on the exterior, so we'll be able to see what happens. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I just figured that Bees dislike smoke, smoke is something that is essentially burnt material/Charcoal. So I guess they wouldn't want to get close to such surfaces and by lasercutting the wood like that, it would lead to burnt surfaces. I figured it might be easier to separate the boxes because of that little fact.
It is just me spouting theories since I do not have an Apiary to test said theories with. But I figured bees might avoid building wax or that sealant on top of an ashed/burnt surface. But hey, I can be wrong.
As for the laser cut surface vanishing after a year? I figured normal weather and time would deteriorate the surface unless one adds extra protective coating on it.
Grate, so you are using queen excluders now then,, as other videos you saidyou don't use them.
Hi Anary, I personally do not use Queen Excluders, but I feel that I have a responsibility to encourage new beekeepers to use them.
If you were an actual fan you would know he doesn't use them because he isn't beekeeping for honey mainly.
You mention the Acorn frames. Would I be right to assume the Acorn foundations are compatible with the Flow wood frames?
Yes, they are indeed :)
All type box honeybee can use this prodect?
How this price
Yes, all lines of Apis mellifera are capable of using this hive design. Pricing is available through the link in the video description.
Researching beekeeping and considering the Flow Hive (complete setup) or a Langstroth setup with a Flow super on the top. Is it more economical in the long run to have the Flow super on a traditional Langstroth 10 box system? If I go with the Flow Hive how long do the boxes and trays last? Do I have to replace any parts on any regular basis?I am willing to spend the money for the convenience of the Flow super to make honey extraction easier but want to be economical for the rest of the hive if possible. If starting from scratch as a new beekeeper which setup would you recommend?
Hi Linda, those are all great questions.
An advantage of the full flow hive system is that the bottom board is already tilted to the rear for honey extraction.
Aside from that, I find that having flow supers to put on your Langstroth boxes is just fine. After all, the main advantage as you've already stated is the ability to draw off surplus honey with the specialized frames.
I have two full size FlowHives and four Flow Supers, I personally enjoy the convenience of being able to put the supers on any hive of my choice. For someone just starting out, I definitely lean towards the supers by themselves.
I recommend for those in the north, with longer winters, that you obtain two deeps, a bottom board and one medium super to place beneath the flowsuper. That way when you take your FlowSuper off for winter, the lower boxes will still hold enough bees and resources to see them through winter. In the southern climates, you could have a single deep, one medium super and then your flowsuper. I wish you well :)
Ty for such a detailed reply. I am in the Fort Worth, Texas area. I read for some warm areas 2 broid boxes are needed but haven't found if that is the case for my area. Also I saw some random comment about having to replace pays off the hive every 3 years to prevent pesticide build up. That was why is I was beget going with traditional Langstroth boxes and pays except for the super. I can't find where a I read the comment and don't know if it's even something I will need to do. Still have lots of reading to do but appreciate your help and videos.
TY for your detailed reply. I am west of Fort Worth, Texas. I read that in warmer climates you need 2 brood boxes but I don't know if that applies to me. Also, I saw a comment (that I can no longer find and don't know it's validity) about replacing components of the hive every 3 years to prevent pesticide build up. This was a reason I was thinking about using the traditional Langstroth hive for all the parts except the Flow super so as to keep expense down. I don't want to spend more than I have to upfront (but am willing to do what is necessary to make the hive something I can maintain and enjoy) but I don't want reoccurring expenses to be unmanageable even more. I am still researching and reading. I know someone I can go see their setup soon also. TY for your help and videos.
You're welcome Linda! Considering how much time and thought you are putting into this venture, I'm confident that you are going to do very well for your bees. Arghhh... pesticides are finding their way into everything and it is nigh impossible to keep them out of our crops (thanks Bayer) and off homeowners lawns and gardens. Every single home and garden center pushes pesticides at every turn of the garden aisle. It's a battle for the mind.
Frederick Dunn - we need to tear our our lawns and stop poisoning the earth.
You had mentioned that in the Northern part of the country we may not harvest any honey the first year. If so, what do you do with the honey that is in the flow frames when winter comes?
I remove the flow-super and let the bees clean it up before going into storage. I have a robbing station outside of the apiary.