00:36 F3 s are dead, gone 00:52 F4 s not plan to use s-bus and smart port protocols 01:25 F405 a lot of processing power a lot of memory and will work for years 01:39 F411 have very little flash, very little memory,very little serial ports 02:20 F411 (just ignore F411 and go with something more advanced like F405) 02:36 F7 s have very flexible and configurable serial ports 03:26 F722 have the little of the flash and the ram memory 03:41 F722 (BF might have a feature cuts not yet in the next few years) 04:07 F745 will be just great (as long as you will be able to find one) 04:18 F765 Want big and pricey airplane, with a lot of servos&sensors, huge motors&esc's 04:45 H7 s expensive but a lot of outputs & serial ports, can bus & run any software 05:14 H743 05:15 H750 don't have enough of the flash memory to fit better flight inaudible 05:50 H750 ←your program will be loaded into the ram memory and executed. (need external flash or sd-card)
A table to accompany this video might be helpful reference. Essentially it boils down to: 1. number UARTs (and if support inversion for those needing SBus compatibility) 2. amount of RAM/FLASH memory, to ensure can accommodate growth in FC software (or to run Ardupilot) 3. availability, and/or price F3: 1. 🥶, 2. 🥶, 3. 🥶 .. past prime, EOL F405: 1. 😎 2. 😎, 3.😎 F411:1. 🤔, 2. 🤔 3. 😎 ... can be limiting with DJI (soft-serial), or additional sensors F722: 😎, 2. 🤨 3. 😎 F745:1. 😎 2. 😎, 3.😎 F765: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 😃 H7: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 🙄 H743: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 😃 H750: 1. 😎, 2. 🤔 3. 😎 .. has limited FLASH (might have future limitations, but fine for now)
Corrections... H750 runs BF just fine, faster in fact than an H743 because all the code runs from RAM, not external flash so there is no flash-access penalty! Secondly, the PX4 edition of the H7EXTREME with a different flash chip has 2MB flash memory, more than the cheaper 1MB H743's, and runs BF, PX4 and Ardupilot. If iNAV has gotten to big to fit in RAM on the H750 then the devs should target the H7EXTREME PX4 edition instead, or use a bootloader than can load elf files into apprioriate ram sections instead of copying from ram to ram on startup thus saving *loads* of space. You didn't mention the H730, which is what is currently used by the SPRacingH7RF which runs BF with ELRS SPI RX integrated and on-board Pixel OSD. You also didn't mention the H723/H733/H735/H753 all of which can also be used. PCB manufacturers should target a single PCB that can fit any of the H723/H730/H733/H735 when carefully designed to give various Ram/Flash/External Flash options.
Ciao Pavel. Thank's for the video and agree with your explenations. I just wonder why INAV is not keep tha pace of Betaflight by supporting the new H743 boards on the market. The INAV target for H743 are just half of what BF does have. Is there intention to enlarge support of other third parts controllers? thank's
Thank you for the clear message. Why is there not a package that combines the microcontroller with other chips for example the transmitter, osd controller or the motor controllers? I understand the accelerometer and gyroscope are mems which require slightly different processing steps, but for the others, they could be done in a single die.
Thank you for the good video! can you tell us please if the Pixhawk better than the H743 or vise versa, I had pixhawk in airplane and Helicopter and I know that the PHX4 can run on anything and have good boards.. Thanks in advance
Hi Pawel Am I stuck with a useless FC? For Christmas I bought a Lumenier Lux H743 HD to upgrade my 7 inch INAV quad because it had crappy video due to the lack of good voltage regulators. For now (hoping its temporary) the firmware target is the MatekH743, I can't get INAV past the Accelerometer calibration I even tried Rev 6.0.0. In addition there are 50 I2C errors. I have been building since the Naze32 so I do have some experience but not with the advanced CLI commands. The specs of this board SCREAM INAV but it comes with an older "custom" version of BF and the web sites hint that newer firmware will work. Nope! Can I do something in the CLI to fix this? Thoughts?
I still fly omnibus f4 and kakute f4 v2....when I bought them 4 years to 5 years ago, first f7 were appearing and f4 were dead: not enough of this or that...even you, a year ago, you said F4 were dead, but now f4 is the way to go, go figure... The only reason I'm getting some new boards is because HDzero isn't capable of putting a good quality regulator on their vtx, so I need a 10v source not to smoke them....
Can you maybe present some builds and your recommended FCs for them? Im using a lot of f411 on my toothpick builds. Got an H7 too, but not sure of its full potential in use
Grate video eactly what i needed. Im just starting with drones And i want to be able to connect a lot of sensors etc. Arduino, rasprerry. Nightvission etc
Sense you’re an engineer you may be the person for me to ask a question. I have an inflight F7 FC. I made the mistake of thinking it had a baro on it. Do you know if I could add both a baro along with GPS?
I'm not a drone expert but.. can a flight computer/controller work out the wind speed and direction from the control outputs needed to maintain station? If so then that info and the height would help you drop things onto target by compensating for the wind.
F405 is only a MCU, not the whole flight controller. Which exactly F405 you have in mind? But if it works with 8 outputs, then why should it not work with 6 outputs?
@@FPVUniversity are you talking about Fport or what other options are out there? ELRS and Crossfire? I guess I am just wanting to know what else is out there. I really appreciate all your hard work!
Anyone got an idea how to trigger an Relais module using a Speedybee F405 v3? There are no pins I can set to high/low like on an Arduino/ESP32 I could use the servo signal, but I would need something to translate PWM to an High/Low state to trigger the Relais. It is for educational purposes lol.
Subject: [Help Needed] Connecting INAV to QGroundControl (QGC) Hi, I am having trouble connecting my INAV drone to QGroundControl (QGC). I have followed the instructions in the manual, but I can't seem to get the two systems to connect. I have tried searching for resources online, but I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem. Could someone please help me with this issue? I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide step-by-step instructions or point me in the direction of a helpful tutorial. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Best regards, [pritam]
I use all F722 ,, they all work incredible super smooth ,, But I not use GPS !! why ? I fly freestyle .. so why count out F722 .. GPS is a waste of money , betalight gps is worthless ,, your drone will stop 5 to 10 feet in the air with beta , flight fall out of the sky and break an arm !! if its going down gps will not save you .. Gps is for beginners and youtubers trying to test to the limit and end up losing a $300 drone for what ? also I never use black box I set my motors to between 75 and 85 % motor output and you will never burn out an esc while flying or have issues with the F722 . go thru all the crap with black box I just buy a new esc which 9 times out of 10 is the issue and 8 out of 10 people probably never use it . I set all my quads the same except if the quad is little heavy and filtering depending on gryo, I do not take chances and your supposed to fly line of site anyway
00:36 F3 s are dead, gone
00:52 F4 s not plan to use s-bus and smart port protocols
01:25 F405 a lot of processing power a lot of memory and will work for years
01:39 F411 have very little flash, very little memory,very little serial ports
02:20 F411 (just ignore F411 and go with something more advanced like F405)
02:36 F7 s have very flexible and configurable serial ports
03:26 F722 have the little of the flash and the ram memory
03:41 F722 (BF might have a feature cuts not yet in the next few years)
04:07 F745 will be just great (as long as you will be able to find one)
04:18 F765 Want big and pricey airplane, with a lot of servos&sensors, huge motors&esc's
04:45 H7 s expensive but a lot of outputs & serial ports, can bus & run any software
05:14 H743
05:15 H750 don't have enough of the flash memory to fit better flight inaudible
05:50 H750 ←your program will be loaded into the ram memory and executed. (need external flash or sd-card)
cheers
Awesome summary thanks!
A table to accompany this video might be helpful reference.
Essentially it boils down to:
1. number UARTs (and if support inversion for those needing SBus compatibility)
2. amount of RAM/FLASH memory, to ensure can accommodate growth in FC software (or to run Ardupilot)
3. availability, and/or price
F3: 1. 🥶, 2. 🥶, 3. 🥶 .. past prime, EOL
F405: 1. 😎 2. 😎, 3.😎
F411:1. 🤔, 2. 🤔 3. 😎 ... can be limiting with DJI (soft-serial), or additional sensors
F722: 😎, 2. 🤨 3. 😎
F745:1. 😎 2. 😎, 3.😎
F765: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 😃
H7: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 🙄
H743: 1. 😃 2. 😃, 3. 😃
H750: 1. 😎, 2. 🤔 3. 😎 .. has limited FLASH (might have future limitations, but fine for now)
Dude your accent makes me just want to listen all day lol ! Borat fpv man I love it!! Keep ‘em coming great content
Thanks! Will do!
Corrections... H750 runs BF just fine, faster in fact than an H743 because all the code runs from RAM, not external flash so there is no flash-access penalty! Secondly, the PX4 edition of the H7EXTREME with a different flash chip has 2MB flash memory, more than the cheaper 1MB H743's, and runs BF, PX4 and Ardupilot.
If iNAV has gotten to big to fit in RAM on the H750 then the devs should target the H7EXTREME PX4 edition instead, or use a bootloader than can load elf files into apprioriate ram sections instead of copying from ram to ram on startup thus saving *loads* of space.
You didn't mention the H730, which is what is currently used by the SPRacingH7RF which runs BF with ELRS SPI RX integrated and on-board Pixel OSD.
You also didn't mention the H723/H733/H735/H753 all of which can also be used. PCB manufacturers should target a single PCB that can fit any of the H723/H730/H733/H735 when carefully designed to give various Ram/Flash/External Flash options.
Ciao Pavel. Thank's for the video and agree with your explenations. I just wonder why INAV is not keep tha pace of Betaflight by supporting the new H743 boards on the market.
The INAV target for H743 are just half of what BF does have. Is there intention to enlarge support of other third parts controllers? thank's
Excellent tips, Pawel! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Im in the market for F4 omnibus v3 style FC
for plane atleast 6 channel output maybe 6 of them so I want a good price, whats out there ?
Thank you for the clear message. Why is there not a package that combines the microcontroller with other chips for example the transmitter, osd controller or the motor controllers? I understand the accelerometer and gyroscope are mems which require slightly different processing steps, but for the others, they could be done in a single die.
Thank you for the good video! can you tell us please if the Pixhawk better than the H743 or vise versa, I had pixhawk in airplane and Helicopter and I know that the PHX4 can run on anything and have good boards..
Thanks in advance
Thks for your video ! What do you think of F435 (like mamba F435 Mk5) ? It is good to go with this type of FC in 2024 ?
It's the direct equivalent of STM32F405
@@FPVUniversity oh ok and it is a good choice for a beginner ? For a 5" freestyle or cinematic
Hi Pawel Am I stuck with a useless FC? For Christmas I bought a Lumenier Lux H743 HD to upgrade my 7 inch INAV quad because it had crappy video due to the lack of good voltage regulators. For now (hoping its temporary) the firmware target is the MatekH743, I can't get INAV past the Accelerometer calibration I even tried Rev 6.0.0. In addition there are 50 I2C errors. I have been building since the Naze32 so I do have some experience but not with the advanced CLI commands. The specs of this board SCREAM INAV but it comes with an older "custom" version of BF and the web sites hint that newer firmware will work. Nope! Can I do something in the CLI to fix this? Thoughts?
good. also 722 is very hot.. it like you boost your 411 ))
What is the best for fixed wing in 2024 for you mind? F405 is worth?
I still fly omnibus f4 and kakute f4 v2....when I bought them 4 years to 5 years ago, first f7 were appearing and f4 were dead: not enough of this or that...even you, a year ago, you said F4 were dead, but now f4 is the way to go, go figure...
The only reason I'm getting some new boards is because HDzero isn't capable of putting a good quality regulator on their vtx, so I need a 10v source not to smoke them....
Great video and quick summary in a short time.
Glad it was helpful!
Good tips, kinda sums it all up. I didnt even know there was the F750's. Any news on the G4's?
The thing with G4 is that they are smaller and weaker.
Can you maybe present some builds and your recommended FCs for them? Im using a lot of f411 on my toothpick builds. Got an H7 too, but not sure of its full potential in use
Grate video eactly what i needed.
Im just starting with drones
And i want to be able to connect a lot of sensors etc.
Arduino, rasprerry.
Nightvission etc
Sense you’re an engineer you may be the person for me to ask a question. I have an inflight F7 FC. I made the mistake of thinking it had a baro on it. Do you know if I could add both a baro along with GPS?
baro goes to I2C in parallel to MAG, so yes, you can
I have the H757XI Eval Board, which I bought couple of months ago.
It costs ~ €300.
I am still getting to know it😅😅
Look T113-S3 (Quanzhi T113-S3 Board)
Hiya, can a Matek F722 SE be used with caddx vista DJI unit?
If wired correctly, has 4.3 betaflight version installed, cheers.
I'm not a drone expert but.. can a flight computer/controller work out the wind speed and direction from the control outputs needed to maintain station? If so then that info and the height would help you drop things onto target by compensating for the wind.
ull probably need something with optical flow sensor
It in the product description of the F405, it says it works with quadcopters and octocopters. Would this work with a hexacopter build or not?
F405 is only a MCU, not the whole flight controller. Which exactly F405 you have in mind? But if it works with 8 outputs, then why should it not work with 6 outputs?
Hi, Pavel, the link @6:17 is missing ...
f785 could you possibly aim where I may find them please
I'm looking for a H743 16by16mm stack with 30 to 40a esc anything you can recommend
No, not really
What type of H7 does the STM32 H7 of a Radix v2 belong to?
I'm running sbus on my F405 wing. Why is this bad? I'm open to other options.
I'm not saying it's bad. But most modern radio links no longer use SBUS
@@FPVUniversity are you talking about Fport or what other options are out there? ELRS and Crossfire? I guess I am just wanting to know what else is out there. I really appreciate all your hard work!
@@cwwisk CRSF for crossfire, tracer and Express LRS. Fport for R9, GHST for IRC Ghost
Look T113-S3 (Quanzhi T113-S3 Board) All in One Board... Vidoe in (CVBS PAL/NTSC) + SD + Wifi + GPIO😀
Is there also anything new comming in near future? Like Idk an f12 or h9 or something
Betaflight support G4 but it's step back in terms of performance
what about the H745 ?? they are a thing, aren't they? --> never mind, it was a H743 (Mamba Basic MK4 H743) ^^
Anyone got an idea how to trigger an Relais module using a Speedybee F405 v3? There are no pins I can set to high/low like on an Arduino/ESP32
I could use the servo signal, but I would need something to translate PWM to an High/Low state to trigger the Relais.
It is for educational purposes lol.
Subject: [Help Needed] Connecting INAV to QGroundControl (QGC)
Hi,
I am having trouble connecting my INAV drone to QGroundControl (QGC). I have followed the instructions in the manual, but I can't seem to get the two systems to connect. I have tried searching for resources online, but I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem.
Could someone please help me with this issue? I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide step-by-step instructions or point me in the direction of a helpful tutorial.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Best regards,
[pritam]
Matek h743 v2 has problems, control freezes like crossfire, sbus, fport!
Not the ones I'm using, so you would have to be more specific
I’ve had 2 matek boards fail on me. Am I unlucky or are they just not reliable… they were f722 and f405
So far I lost zero matek FCs. And I had many
This was great - thanks!
Thanks
It depends on what u use it for. Most of us can de proper with just a f4.
F405 is not f411 it's a completely different story
Thank you. 👍🏻
sorted was 765 thanks
My H743 made me cry when I bought it. Looked at my F7 and it was a bargain compared.
Jhemcu has good price H7
Omg 😳 so much expensive 😮.....
If computer I7 processor can use in the FC 🤣
H7 only. Then Raspberry Pi Compute modules or some other ARMs
How much flash actually convenient ?
1M is enough for now
@@FPVUniversity i bought a f44RE board from weact studio, it would be better if i saw ur video earlier, i should have order the f405 board
It's like
F3=2G
F4=3G
F7=4G
H7=5G
Great info
Glad you think so!
Can you alt + f4 the plane
Im buying H743😁🤟
Good choice :)
I use all F722 ,, they all work incredible super smooth ,, But I not use GPS !! why ? I fly freestyle .. so why count out F722 .. GPS is a waste of money , betalight gps is worthless ,, your drone will stop 5 to 10 feet in the air with beta , flight fall out of the sky and break an arm !! if its going down gps will not save you .. Gps is for beginners and youtubers trying to test to the limit and end up losing a $300 drone for what ? also I never use black box I set my motors to between 75 and 85 % motor output and you will never burn out an esc while flying or have issues with the F722 . go thru all the crap with black box I just buy a new esc which 9 times out of 10 is the issue and 8 out of 10 people probably never use it . I set all my quads the same except if the quad is little heavy and filtering depending on gryo, I do not take chances and your supposed to fly line of site anyway
H743 $180
which one and where? I see Matek H743 Slim V3 for $98 or SkyStars H743 HD for less than $90
Matek 405 forever
Speedybee F405 V3 for the win and to save your wallet!! :)
Yes!