Is the new Multistrada a GS killer? | GS vs Multistrada
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- Is the new Multistrada a GS killer? Part of the fun of our biking hobby is working out what bike to buy next to replace your current steed. In the adventure bike market this is a tricky decision because currently two bikes stand head and shoulders above the rest - the mighty V4 Multistrada and the original work horse the BMW GS.......
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Didn't think I'd ever say this about a bike, but its the mpg that puts me off the Multistrarda.
I have a warm feeling inside! You made the right call Sir! Great video.
I was surprised at how much more refined the new GS1250 is over my (now former) 2013 GS1200. The GS1250 gearbox, for example, is an immense improvement over the 1200. The upgrades are such that I went out and bought a 1250. As you say, comparing the Multistrada to a 2013 GS really isn’t a fair comparison. And the GS1250 is cheaper too!
The engine is a clear downgrade with the ridiculous valves giving the bike a non smooth experience
@@AlbertKel I am surprised that is your new experience. My 1250 is very smooth and certainly quieter and
Another great review. Last July I swapped back to a new GS; the R1250GS. I've had the 1150 and 1200 in the past and then strayed to a K1300R (smile) and then a R1200RS. I also have a G310GS for light weight fun. I'd love to own a Ducati (no room in the garage for another bike). Anyway both bike are great, whichever you go for ride it and enjoy.
Your 14 plate GS is a staple of your channel, the many road trips without any issues, for me she's a keeper! Great review 👍🏽
Thanks! 👍
Hi Andy I've enjoyed your comparison video, for me personally the reason I'm on my third big GS is that shaft drive. I've had the 1200 GS, then a 1250 GS ADV, which I then changed for the same bike but the lower Chassis, even though I'm 5'-10" tall with a 33 inside leg I prefer to flat foot with a slightly bent knee. I've tried the V4 Multistrada and agree it's a brilliant bike, I agree also that blind spot monitoring is a very good thing to have without doubt. But after years of doing chain maintenance, and I was always over the top with it. to go on tour and not having to think of checking the chain and the crud if you have installed an oiler I do not miss one bit. It will most likely sound feeble but for me it keeps me on the amazing GS.
You always have a way a way of making me glad I bought my 2015 1200GS!
You know it makes sense Rodney! Delighted you’re keeping the old beast for the moment….
I watched this video on the edge of my seat, having just bought a new 2022 GSA from your historic GS reviews, glad to see you still like it 👍🏻
Funny that you say that Ian. I just purchased a 2022 as well a few weeks ago and Andy’s reviews were certainly influential. Not sure if it was the commentary or the gorgeous scenery in the videos that swayed me! The real deciding factor for me was the versatility of the bike. Coming from a Harley, I appreciate the 250lbs lighter gs, great suspension and overall better comfort. The Multri reviews repeatedly addressed the bikes urgency to want to go and go fast. Not safe or practical for me. Was an easy decision in the end. My brother rides a sport bike and desperately wanted me to get the Multistrada! Ride safe and good luck with the new ride.
@@thomastoochal2133 thanks, I hope you like your new bike, I was reluctant to admit how great it rides after I picked it up, I didn't want to admit that all the hype over the years was right!! But it is!! I have a Triumph Scrambler 1200XE that I love but it now feels very agricultural. I am holding Andy and his videos entirely responsible for my actions LOL. I have a 4k mile euro tour in May I think the GSA is the perfect tool for the job, just need to start booking accommodation for that tour to the arctic circle that was on the channel as well !! Ride safe and enjoy the new bike !!
Do it Ian, you’d love it!
Great decision 👍 It’s hard to beat the GS as an all rounder.
Always good news to hear, “I’m sticking with the GS”. Fair & honest as always. Thanks TMF 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Good comparison video and 1 hell of a choice to make.
I finally had a ride on the Multistrada V4S and found the only short comings in my opinion was the motor really needs to be in the 6-8K range to feel normal, below that I was finding only on start out that the bike was not as smooth as you would expect unless you get the rev up into the happy range as stated before. Otherwise once rolling it is a mile muncher and can just cruise at 90 plus with no vibration or strain on the engine and the display in person is quite big, bright, and very nice.
The latest Duke compared to an eight year old GS. Think the answer is in the question Andy! Brilliant review, will be talked about for ages. 👍
Great video and review. I drive a Ducati Scrambler 1100 today and have been looking at the Multi. I am 50+ and a fairly large old guy, like a comfortable bike, but don't mind the extra spice of a Ducati.
Glad your keeping the gs,beautiful bike .
Thanks Mr Flyer, I always enjoy your informative and thoughtful commentary. :>)
Thanks for watching Peter!
Excellent comparison Andy, 😉 think your plan is the wisest choice 👍
Glad to hear that!
Great comparison video.
Thanks!
I think you hit the nail on the head when you described who might opt for a multistrada rather than a gs.
Interesting observations, I've had two GS's including an 1150 GSA and a 1200 GSA and liked both of them, the only reason I never bought a 1250 GSA was everybody seems to have one, I've also had 4 Multistrada's including an 1000DS an 1100S a 1200S and my current 17 plate 1200 Enduro (which I love) I looked at the Multistrada V4 S but decided at 25K + it was way to expensive and didn't offer me anything over and above the 1200 Enduro I already have, if I did replace my 1200 Enduro then I'd probably go for a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R over the V4S and save myself the best part of 10K .
Great review . I'm similar view I have 2014 multistrada I've test rode the new one obviously different engine characteristics, but not enough of a jump for me to fork out the massive wedge on..
The fueling-on-a-tour was why I didn't go Ducati- I went KTM as it has an easy 260+ mile range. Interestingly the KTM indicator switch suffers the same as you mention on the Ducati.
There's a lot more choice than just these two of course. People need to do their homework and choose what's best for them as I don't believe there's a "best" bike. 👍
Indeed - theses are only my opinions and I'm no expert!
I generally find that the best bike is the one sitting in your garage waiting to be ridden.....
No there is, it's a CB500X
There certainly is a best bike. But the best bike for you won't be the best bike for someone else.
as long as its BMW your correct...there is the best bike!!!
I would have thought the 'thirsty' nature of a touring bike is an absolute dealbreaker.
I’ve ridden the 1250gs and multi back to back and both are brilliant bikes. I chose the gs because it is a better bike for everyday use. The gs gearbox isn’t as refined as the Ducati’s but you don’t have to go up and down it as much because it’s more torquey which means you can concentrate on riding rather than making sure you are in the right gear. The Ducati is certainly nicer to look at but then you can’t look at it when your riding it! I found the toggle switch on the Ducati difficult to use and the menus hard work to navigate through but I’ve no doubt in time I’d have got used to it. Funnily enough both bikes had Akrapovics on but the beemer sounded louder and better especially with the pops and bangs on the overrun.
Both brilliant bikes but it’s the BM for me.
Of those two, I'll stick with my Tiger 1200. Great all-rounder. Tall windscreen and risers, and I'm good to go.
Those mirrors are absolute knock outs. They would look great on my Tiger. Triumph take note! Great review Andy!
I'm surprised your not more into the vstrom, given the way you prefer less tech on a bike... it offers all the safety features you need.
Thanks for your views, TMF. Interesting to see your views on the GS vs MultiS vs Triumph Tiger 1200...And just where the big Triumph would fit. Cheers.
Yes looking forward to having a go on one as soon as Triumph get them on their press fleet....
The Multi is one beautiful bike. The way those mirrors look! They are a knock out!
I have a 2021 BMW R1250 RS and its a keeper for touring and sporty feeling. Less plastics more billet especially with the 719 package. I am considering adding a V4S however to replace another bike and feel it would be complimentary to the RS. I suspect the new GS 1300/1400 will be the bike for you in a years time
I recently rode the new Ducati multistrada V2 , very nice, but then I rode the BMW GS1250 and was simply blown away with all that it does. It looks like my 2017 Africa Twin will be replaced with the GS very soon. All these bikes are simply very good and some will love the GS and some will love the V4, whichever road you take, it's all about motorcycling enjoyment .
The V2 is lovely, and I think is the best looking of them all with the new paint scheme…… but I just found I had to work it harder on hills, or with a pillion, which made the engine feel harsh.
Great, honest review TMF. Think you were spot on about both bikes. Still think the GS is the daddy though. Thank you
No worries!
Choices, choices 😀 you maybe need to compare to the GS1250, the Ducati looks lovely though 🙂
Perhaps a better comparison would be to compare the GS with the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S (NOT R) with the full Tech Pack. Having had a string of GSs and RTs for 15 years and loving them all, I swapped to the KTM last year and certainly BMW will have to do something radical to the GS for me to contemplate going back. Why? The KTM has one thing the BMW is lacking - Grin Factor.
A (bunch of) KTMs led me here. The grin factor.... But can the Pikes Peak keep the Superduke GT grin I wear in place?
And masses of instability at high speeds ! Had 6 1290’s awesome but riding hard but in the same league as the gs imo .
Gone back to a 1250 gs name already down for the new 1300 next year .
Just a shame with its awful looks and unreliability.
The ideal is to have both as they are in the same category but quite different in terms of engine and feeling....My experience with ducati brought me to conclude that they are super excellent great second bikes or bikes that you do not use a lot, so in case you can have only one the Gs 1250 is the one .....viva la moto!!
I would say it the choice boils down to the choice between performance on one end with the obvious sacrifices in terms of comfort VS a purely comfort (and potentially a bit more offroad) oriented machine. Personally I've evolved from sportsbikes towards a Multi Enduro...and there is simply no way for it to hide its racing heritage. The GS I've owned as a commuter, but with still that passion for speed, to me the choice for the Red Brand would be obvious. Thanks for the content and keep it coming!
Cheers Dennis - will do!
I love your perspective and listening to you work through how you've formed your opinion, as usual. I also love the "...but don't we all love new shiny things..." and your comparison of Italian mistresses to German mistresses... of which I'll have to take you at your word. LOL.
...well I'm making an educated guess, I've never had a German mistress.....
GS for Practical use. And the V4S for Fun.!
I love both bikes and also the KTM 1290 but what keeps me on a GS is the low end torque and the fuel economy. Pulling away from a stop is so smooth and linear with the power deliver on my 2014 GS and I routinely average over 50mpg. I absolutely love the looks of the Ducati Multistrada and maybe down the road I'll add one to my garage but the BMW will probably only be replaced by another GS.
The low end torque and economy will of course be next level on electric adventure bikes - when we actually see them.
Love my 1250 GSA and its massive tank (though it costs a bit more to fill lately) 600k's out of a tank so cant complain
I think that the fact you’ve had your GS for 8 years and clearly still love it says it all 👍
I just bought a BMW GSA..simple reason I don’t need a sports bike in Adventure clothes..but I love all bikes & the simple fact is what ever suits you sir😄
Very true!
Never ridden a Multi Strata, but would the Vtwin be a good contender? Lighter, less thirsty, mire than fast enough, cheaper.
A couple of my touring mates love them.
Choices, choices 👌
Happy travels 👍
Been waiting for these Multistrada videos.... excellent.....
Thank you!
With all the great comments you made about your GS, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were contacted by BMW to test ride a new one. Sounds like a great bike and better than the Ducati.
Look forward to more reviews and vlogs on your channel.
After getting a S1000XR in January last year I was initially regretful when I saw the new V4 coming out a few months afterwards (the one local dealer had already told me there would be no 1260's coming in). Thank goodness the fuel economy is terrible though, that made me feel a lot better. Seriously though, why is fuel economy so low down on the list of priorities? I suppose the fact I bought S1000XR shows buyers don't really care too much either.
A really good review.
Thanks Jed!
I fully understand TMF. I feel sorry for people who need to have the latest bikes/phones/cars/etc... I ride a 2010 R1200R and I don't think there is another bike current in existence that would tempt me out of that brute. It is all the bike I need and more... I know it inside/out, I've put all the toys and details I wanted and I feel great joy keeping it in good working order. I intend to do a couple more modifications and keep it for at least 8 more years.
"Only when a man knows that enough is enough will he ever truly have enough."
Agreed 100%
And that last bit is from Ecclesiastes, if anyone was wondering.
Good comparison. Of the two, definitely the BMW for me. The shaft drive alone would be a big factor. Mind you, notwithstanding I've only seen gushing launch reviews so far, the new Triumph Tiger 1200 might get my vote in this category.
Yes looking forward to trying the new Triumph!
Never was a fan of GS’s but then I had a 2017 1200 Rallye as a hire bike.
The GS doesn’t have the headline performance of a lot of other bikes but they just feel really good.
I have a 1250 now and tend to ride it more than my modded MT10
Told you they were good!
I'm fortunate to have a 1250GS and a Multistrada 950S. The 950 has plenty of performance (for me) on the road and is a bit more engaging to ride. The GS is better at longer distance work and still great fun to ride, although a bit less involving. I reckon the new Tiger 1200 might be the perfect compromise between the two. Can't wait to test one.
Me too! Looks nice as well.....
comparing the 950 with the beamer is silly. Ofcourse it is. Compare the V4s with the 850GS and you will get the same answer.
3 New GS Models - well rumor mill is saying...thinking if true - kind of what Triumph did - options...I love my 21' 1250GSA - the Range Rover of motorcycles...as you and others have said the GS may not be the best in one category - but always top two in every category. KTM may be faster, HD with its adjustable height leveling, Multistrada the tourining and Triumph made theirs lighter....but the might GS is still King...maybe a little biased because I have one...but the competitions is really pushing BMW to do better on their next version and they better or people will start to move on....thanks and great video as usual!!!!
Yes I agree on all points - thanks for watching!
Andy, my money is on the next GS. BMW will never let Ducati one-up them. The boxer twin, in my opinion, is the best motorcycle engine for “our” type of riding. Plus there is the low slung weight. I love V4’s. My VFR 1200x was great but drank gas as well. I think you are doing the right thing by waiting. Oh, shaft drive!
Wise choice!
There is a software update available from Ducati for free now that means the heated grip button works as expected, it switches the grips on and toggles through the heat settings as other bikes do without going into the menu 👍
Indeed....
Andy I completely agree, the GS is such a complete all rounder. Yes there are other bikes out there, if you want speed or tech or something else. But thr BMW ticks my box right now. Will be interesting to see the next generation of GS
Yes I'm really looking forward to seeing the new 1300/1400 - I must say I'm a bit underwelmed by the spy shots to date though - the test mule looks like daffy Duck!! I only hope that changes.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I agree, let's hope that will not be the finished look
The integrated sat nav's work fine. If you only had one bike it's easy as but I guess from your perspective you are riding dozens frequently and have to adapt. It really isn't as big of an issue as you are making it out to be. Great video as always though.
To be fair none of these things are big issues are they - all modern bikes are superb....
I have both and they are great. What ADV Bike does everybody try to compare to? Of Course the GSA. Best Bike Ever!
I also have a 2014 BMW R1200GS and it is a Great Bike!
I agree!
I really value your opinion. I hope you get a chance to review the gsx s1000gt before your shoulder surgery. As you can tell, I've preordered the Suzuki but it has not arrived to the states (Florida). I'm sure your surgery will go well and you will have a speedy recovery. "You'll be back on two wheels and wings in no-time". Otherwise Mrs flyer will take over.
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I love my license and the GS is great at normal speeds and you can have fun on it and still stay nearly legal and below the radar. Crap fuel consumption just becomes a ball ache after a while and if I was coming off a sports bike and wanted a ADV bike then if I wanted a BMW I'd be looking at a S1000XR. Mind you the 1250 GS is no slouch and doesn't run out of puff the way the 1200 does. Test rides as always provide the answer, unless it's no from the Missus
Nice review. I have a 2020 KTM 1290 SAS. I’d love to see the full review of the big adv bike shootout with the latest and greatest. As far as the big ones, are there about 9-10 to choose from?
Would be interested to hear a comparison between the Multstrada and a S1000XR. Both are probably in the ‘Sports Adventure’ bike category.
So sticking with the GS, good move!
The Ducati is beautiful compared to the GS. If I was in the market for an adventure bike I would also test the KTM Super Adventure and the new Tiger 1200 (when available)
It's junk .
@@joecamel6835 owned one?
I felt the same about trying the KTM. Great bike, but I couldn’t get on with the looks from the front, or that the fuel tank resembled giant gonads.
@@joecamel6835 If you mean the Ducati, after my experience with one (13 to 17) I agree.
I will purchase your GS if you do sell it! I am leaving in September for a round the world trip. I am filming the whole adventure and will be putting it on UA-cam. I cycled around the world in 2018 in support of CALM but this time I will be using the combustion engine. Big fan love the videos.
Those little things are crucial. You get distracted looking for the indicator and the hedge row will be your new best friend. I hate digital speedo's, you have to look and digest the numbers, with a pointer you get the general idea instantly.
Couldn't agree more!
Sounds like you have made your decision in favour of the all rounder. The flat (horizontal) engines do have a lot of torque as seen also in the Gold Wing. Even cars with such engines do also as in my Sabaru legacy flat four.
There’s a reason the GS is such a big seller. Still the best adventure bike out there. I’ve got an R1250R and that 1250 engine is brilliant. I too will be looking to see what happens with a possible 1300GS (maybe my next bike). Another great video Mr. Flyer 👍
GS 1300, going the wrong direction.
GS1000 would make more sense.
BMW should make a sport model 1300 GS with 17 inch front, without telelever, 240kg, shaft drive, 150PS, it would be amazing.
Rumour is there will be an M1300GS, possibly with a 17” front wheel. That’s what I’m hoping for 🤞
Bikes are definitely getting bigger and heavier. I agree, not the way I would like it. Think Euro regs are partly to blame, bigger engines needed to get the same power while meeting the regs ☹️
Couldn't see you getting rid of the mighty GS, it's given you great service over the yrs. You look after your machines fastidiously, as do I, & you know its foibles & quirks.👍
Yes she’s a keeper for a little while longer yet!
@@TheMissendenFlyer if & when you may decide to get a new GS, sell yours privately, that way you'll get a better price than what a dealer may offer, & you can afford to be selective as you have a few nice steeds in the stable ay Andy, pissing down here in Aberystwyth, nothing unusual for Wales
Very Well explained. Both Bikes LEGENDS.....But until the NEW GS arrive, the Multistrada does have an edge in terms of handling & Raw on road Performance. Not to forget the Adaptive cruise control and blind spot detection.
Doesn't have the edge on low speed manhandling and ease of living with - not to forget it's "integrated" satnav and high fuel consumption..... :0P
Enjoyed that review. I rode the 1250GS and the V4s back to back before making a decision which to go for. The GS is a superb bike, and very “calming” to ride, but I found it asthmatic when overtaking on faster, flowing roads, and found that it felt it needed another gear when cruising at 80 in top. The standard wind protection was equally disappointing and noisy on both bikes. The Ducati economy could be helped by a taller 6th too, and it certainly has the torque to cope with a taller 6th, just to drop the revs by 500 or 1000 rpm on a long cruise, and to reduce that buzz they both have at 75/85 mph. Do they have a lower 6th just so that it will rev out for max speed? I could happily go without that in favour of a more relaxing, economical top.
Also wondered which Mrs Flyer preferred as a pillion?
You can play with the settings to get more sense of torque on pulling away.
Anyway, in the end, the Ducati felt more sense of “occasion” to get on, seemed more capable all round, more planted on the twisties, had far better safety technology, and Mrs Price preferred it as a pillion, with absolutely no downsides compared to the GS.
Add the full akro pipe and weirdly the fuel economy improves a bit, and suddenly the sense of occasion jumps up yet another notch.
Nice one Alan!
This post helped. Heading toward a Pikes Peak--can't take money with you! Thanks!
@@tomtraynor5384 I think if I was buying today, then I’d buy the Pikes Peak too. The V4s is superb but I’d still wish for the ohlins bling and the single side swinger. That paint scheme also looks great. I live in the south east of France, and both bikes are perfect for the fast mountain roads, whereas the GS just felt a bit reluctant to be pushed.
The only question marks on the pikes peak for me are that I wish it left the white panel without a number 1 in it, and that I’d have to spend a bit more money to get the extras that came included on the V4s (I went for the full). That beautiful red rear seat design has to be lost if you want to give your pillion a warm butt. It’s probably not enough to make me change the V4s, but if I didn’t already have it, the bling of the pikes peak would win me over.
Of course the full akro pipe is a big plus to both bikes, but if you have big feet, and often ride on the balls of your feet, rather than resting the arch on your pegs, then you will sometimes feel the full akro heat shield touching the rear of your boot. It’s not hot nor problematic though.
Interesting vid & your decision very much makes sense. I also don't think your Italian mistress analogy was far off the mark either but maybe don't mention it to Mrs Flyer hey lol. Definitely worth waiting if a new GS is rumoured to be in the works & even not, hopefully Ducati will have sorted out the idiosyncrasies of the Multistrada by next year so it may be a more appealing proposition by then.
No way I would go off road with those mirrors! Can’t change them out for double takes either… plus the fall flat factor the GS doesn’t suffer from. But!! For on road fun touring, with zero off road, the Ducati should be a good one
I ride a big twin offroad, in places it is definitely not meant to be taken (escaped from mental hospital kind of thing) but I would not bring the Multi on real offroad either. And is not just the mirrors (and a 19” i/o a 21”) although is probably way more capable than it looks. Is just not that bike, in my imaginarium, you thrash on loose rocks. Definitely Ktm1290 ADV R and the Africa Twin, perhaps the tiger, and even the GS, just not the Multi (which is s serious contender in “my next bike challenge” 😅)
Hello Mr Missendenfly,I am big fan of your channel and having watched this one and would say that you need to jump on board the new 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 and then decide.😉
I look forward to when you test ride the mighty Tiger.
Have a great day😊
I'd like to see BMW stretch those service intervals a bit. A 12k mile valve inspection is behind the times now, needs to be 24k to be competitive considering the price.
The software update has fixed the heated grip issue to a one push of the heated grip button. No need to buy a separate nav system too.
Thank you for posting. The multistrada is a gorgeous machine. I have not test ridden it. But it might be wise to see if/when BMW will come out with the 1300GS. IMHO, I really like the looks of the Ducati Streetfighter. The V2 flavor. Beautiful, fast, beautiful, practical, beautiful, could be taken on longer rides and did I mention beautiful? Can't wait to see it. Panigale is still the prettiest, but oh boy, that Streetfighter warms the cockles of my heart.
I have one on loan at present - stay tuned for my reviews in due course!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Great, looking forward to it.
Great review as always, I desperately wanted the R1250GS Adventure, test rode the GSA and V4S back to back, both great bikes, ended up buying the V4S and have absolutely no regrets, its a fantastic machine...I felt that at 53 I was far too young to buy the GSA, to be honest I found it a bit dull and dated in comparison to the Ducati...but when/if I grow up I will most likely have a GSA...btw no need to go into the menu to set the heated grips, just push the button (update maybe ?)
yes it's an update released since I recorded this video some weeks/months ago....
@@TheMissendenFlyer The fuel fill at the end shows it was recorded months ago! £1.44? They were the days.
A good review, and I would say, if the newer bike doesn't give you that immediate WOW factor over your present one, then maybe it's not the right time, or model you need. As the 'niggley' buttons are annoying, though you would soon have the musle memory for them, wouldn't be to bad, but to have to change your phone, so it sits in the correct pocket, to be able to use the satnav......for the price of the bike, to sell it as a sports/touring bike, id suggest an integrated satnav would be one of the 1st aids.
I love a dedicated satnav - or one built in so you don't need your phone at all - my Honda Goldwing manages as does my GS!
Yes, I have a tom tom rider on my tiger 800, which is ample for me, and I don't need to much plugged into the bike.
well done mate GS all day if you want a sports bike buy one I have the current 1250GSA TE and its a great bike in all avenues almost the only bike needed in a one bike garage
Agreed - if I only had one bike it would 100% be my GS
If buying a new large displacement adventure motorcycle the choice could be difficult. There are a good number of bikes to choose from. I don’t think there is a bad bike in the bunch I know a large adventure bike is in my future and my lead choice has been the GS. I was excited about the new V4 Multistrada. Great looks, great power, lots of tech. For me the range is deal breaker. I prefer a bike with at least 200 miles (322km) range. Even the standard GS with its 5.2 gal. (20l) tank is capable. The other bike on the top of my list is the 1290 Super Adventure S. I like the look of it, even though a lot of riders do not. Probably the best thing about your GS is it is paid for.
That’s true! It owes me nothing….
I traded my Bandit in for a Tracer 9 gt and the difference and benefits were night and day.Were the multistrada falls down the gs shines.Gs would be a keeper in my book
As an owner of a Mutley V4S I agree with most of what you say. I have an MRA vario screen which is a little wider and quieter (I’m 6’) although it does add weight and subsequent addition of a sat nav up high is just too heavy for the screen mechanism (the integrated Nav is rubbish). The indicator thing - especially turning right - bugged me also but having had the switch gear replaced it is better. Mine sometimes just didn’t switch on at all. I suspect a bit of dodgy design in there somewhere. As for the heated grips there’s a software update which fixes that so they just work off the button.
My main gripe with the bike is weather protection. Without panniers and top box fitted there’s a vacuum behind the rider which drags up all the water a worse the muck from the back wheel all up your trousers, all over the back seat and even across the back of your jacket. 10 miles riding on wet dirty roads is enough to require your kit needing a wash (and Goretex is a pain to keep washing). Also those wonderful “cooling” wings down low at the front are really good at jet washing the front of you with muck as well. When I’ve ridden on hot days wearing single layer riding jeans they do cool your shins but not much else, and in the winter I’m cold enough. I’d love a delete kit to get rid of them.
Lastly I don’t find the seat comfortable although others do, and there isn’t really any aftermarket alternatives.
How is the GS for keeping your riding kit clean?
Compared to the Multistrada it's fine! Did you see my last "Biker Scran" video? The Multistrada covered itself with mud to the degree you couldn't see the numberplate at all!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes indeed. You were fortunate to have the panniers on or your trousers would have looked the same.
@@paulleman7703 Really!? Wow....
I changed my GS for a KTM1190 adv and have never looked back...the power and sheer urgency are superb...elect suspension is excellent. As a bonus it trickles along in fifth gear at 30mph as well...and it's better off road!👍
Average 44mpg...so not to horrific
You'll have to change your UA-cam name now!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂😂... we're all products of our past!... I was given that nickname over 10 years ago!
I've never been a fan of the Boxer engine but if I had to have an ADV style bike it would be a new GS over the MultiStrada.
Heated grips faffery has been sorted by a softwear update at the dealer from what I hear 😉
Now please do a GS vs Yamaha Super tenere. Both shaft driven and would be interested to know your unbiased review as always.
Andy - run that Italian vs German metaphor by me again - 😂 - reality is you have so much emotional attachment to the GS given the epic tours you have had on it - you’ll never swap this out. It’s a keeper … it has to be. 👍🏼
Yes I think you may be right Faraz!
I would like to see you review the ktm 1290 adventure s and compare it with gs just like the new triumph 1200, thank you for the channel, continue the excellent work
If you’re touring in Europe mainly on motorways & staying at posh hotels ,the Beemer . Ducati should stick to proper sports bikes .If you’re touring the world staying in dodgy out of the way places ,then it’s got to be a Honda or Suzuki ,for reliability & they will fit in with the type of machines the locals ride .
It's the chain that puts me off on the Ducati.
It's the headlight that puts me off the KTM. And it's the electronics on my 2021 Rocket 3 that puts me off the new Tiger.
I'll stick with my GSA. It's brilliant, apart from the terrible Nav6. It's ghosting, and bmw are reluctant to replace.
But I will have a go on the Ducati just to see what it does.
Great review as always.
Thanks for watching Fred!
I'd say that for anything, unless you like sporty riding on a sub 250 or ride on track days, low down grunt always wins over massive top end! You can appreciate the grunt at any speed off every corner, whereas massive top end power will only get you into trouble eventually.... Speed limits will only ever get lower so I really can't see, away from the track, a single situation where 170bhp is a good idea!
It’s a logical perspective….. but for the main part, biking ain’t about logic, unless your sole goal is getting through traffic….in which case we might as well all buy electric scooters instead.
@@alanprice9938 no, it's not logical, it's being realistic! I've had fast bikes and grunty bikes and I've had far more 'fun' with grunt... Fast bikes WILL eventually get you into trouble. And I can't see your point about riding a grunt laden, bellowing twin out of a series of hairpin bends being compared to riding an electric bike through a town??
@@robbikebob 😃 “realistically” we only need a bike that does 70mph….. maybe 75mph for emergency overtakes on motorways. But who wants that? As for hairpins, a scratchy 250 stroker with zero torque can be great fun too, and often more capable than a torque laden heavyweight. I reckon we “need” all these things at different times, and different stages of our lives.
In an ideal garage, I’d have them all, including a 1250 boxer of some type….. not cos of the torque, nor cos it’s reliable or well made, but cos hey, it’s a 1250 boxer 👍👍
As for the grunt comparison on an electric bike, you should try one. Grunt is what electric motors have, in bucket loads.
Bought my brand new 1250 gs last week. So, there is my answer :)
Great video, enjoyed that. For an all round bike, I currently have a Superduke r would you go Multi v4 or streetfighter v4s
For an all rounder I'd go - Multi V4S.....
After two 1200 GSs and a 1250 I decided to try a Ducati, so after test riding the V4S and the V2S I made a simple decision, it’s a V2S. Nothing wrong with the V4S (apart from its love of fuel) but the V2S was lighter, just as much fun and more than enough performance for our roads. I’ll miss the low down grunt but I won’t miss the weight or the terrible gearbox. GSs are great bikes but they lack the feeling of riding a Ducati, even if I have to deal with a chain maintenance again😉
Hi Andy. I traded in my 1200 for a 1250 GSA two years ago. And bought a Street Fighter last year, I love the GSA and am less thrilled with the Street Fighter. The Ducati is a pain to ride, as it is simply hard work. All the things that are simple on the GSA are hard work on the Ducati. Before you contemplate switching bikes, try out the 1250.
I have tried the 1250……
Glad I don't have to choose between them, I used to really want a GS, but I couldn't afford it, now I can I don't want one, I wouldn't want all the weight these days, don't get me wrong they are both great looking bikes but I imaging running costs are higher than most, being prestige performance and all that.
Quite agree. I had a GS 1250 and it's amazing. But I don't need a bike to weigh 250kg.
Doesn’t feel that heavy though thanks to its low centre of gravity - that’s what I love about it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer very true on country lanes, less so in the city centre and the garage