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Saber 101 | Strategy, Combos, Overview and Pros/Cons | Melty Blood: Type Lumina Guide
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Any additional tips for Saber - let me know in the comments below (she's so fun ahhh)
Optimized combos: docs.google.co...
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:27 Overview
04:05 Normals
-- 04:18 5B/2B
-- 04:55 2C
-- 05:20 5C
-- 05:38 6C
-- 06:07 3C
-- 06:32 jC
-- 07:35 jA
-- 07:47 jB
08:40 Specials
-- 08:45 236X
-- 10:51 214X
-- 12:42 623X
-- 13:27 j236X
-- 14:52 Moon skills
-- 17:44 Arc Drives
-- 18:48 Last Arc
19:10 Combos (DP Input is 623B, oops)
-- 23:52 Okizeme
24:55 Strategy
-- 24:58 Neutral
-- 25:50 Block strings
-- 27:06 Defense
27:47 Outro
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When I get a hit I like to cancel into 6c-623b-jc-airdash-heldjc-c-3c-jb-jc-throw. Does a little bit less damage than your bnb (around 100 less) but it is very consistent working at almost any ranges, any starters and doesn’t get hurt by scaling in most situations. So if anyone is struggling w these confirms this one may feel easier
Bless up the Saber guide is here. Thanks for the content Diaphone. Lurking in the twitch streams has helped me improve drastically so this guide is exactly what ive been waiting for. Look forward to seeing more content from ya and GL competing in this game!
Thanks king, this guide is GOLDEN! Watching your Saber has helped me so much already, thanks for all the quality content. Us Saber mains eating well!
I've been rewatching and taking notes and this is an amazing guide! I'm usually a bit of a slow learner but your neutral tips and block string advice have made an immediate effect on my game. Once I've mastered the Jump charge C I'm going to work on practicing some of these combos!
Just like with your I-No guide, this comes just in time. Def been getting steadily better since practicing and applying stuff in this vid. Thank you for your help and good luck in the future!
"so why should you play saber-" because she's saber lol only really got this cause I loved fate. this vid helped a lot
You deserve more views. It’s mind blowing how underrated you are!
🙏
This guide was amazing!! You've got a new sub!! Was amazingly informational, with plenty of examples to see it in action. I've recently incorporated the blood heat on wakeup with 3BC and man has it been a godsend, especially against Arc or Kouma. The backdash I will experiment with more, since I've seen many ppl get away from my pressure that way as well. Lastly, that 2CC strat to end your block string is beautiful! It has even helped me make some neat comebacks, since many ppl think they can mash afterwards, allowing me to get a hit. Very well done guide, good stuff!
splendid video chief
Your character guides are by far my favorite in the whole FGC. Granblue and now my beloved Melty ? Please do the whole cast ! 🙏
God-tier as usual, but at this point it should almost go without saying. Thank you 🙏
This guide was amazing. Not to long, easy to understand and information that is helpful in an actual match. You earned my subscribe and I look forward to more of your content.
The best notification of the day.
This was very informative thanks so much! I can’t wait to try these moves out
Thank you very much for playing this game for 5 minutes 2 years ago, Diaphone!
It's always a pleasure listening to your videos, even though I don't play the same characters.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I love your videos!!!!! I watched your I-no video and got to celestial, and now that I got saber, gonna start training up again. Thank you so much for the content you put out!
the first real guide put up, definitely makes me wanna pick up this character
This guide was incredible and you made everything easy to understand. I hope spooky does tournaments for this because would love to fight your saber and see if I can measure up 😂. Keep making content man 👏
Thanks for making an easily digestible guide. I just mained Saber because she was the only one I recognised in the cast. I don't know any of these characters.
thanks man you explained everything very well i just bought the game and i really like saber and being able to make the combos are very satisfying
gained one more subscriber
Just bought the game yesterday and I didn't know that saber would be in the roster till
I saw. Definitely already love it and it has a familiar feel to it from fighterz. Been loving saber and Noel
I'm here to study the enemy. I hope we ever get an Akiha or Kohaku guide, cause Diaphone's guides are always so digestible.
Very clean guide nice
Thank you this video has helped me to actually win a match . I was at a 30 loss streak
Just discovered your twitch and youtube. I had been waiting for a Saber guide. Nice to see it.
Taught me how to play I-No and now you're teaching me how to play saber. Fantastic explanations, really well done guide. Goat Diaphone thank you!
thanks for the video this was a big help, I was struggling with navigating neutral a lot so the few tips were great
Thanks so much! New at this game and definitely need some help learning it.
good content
and your sound is good
Oooh you should do more characters in the future! These guides are so helpful!
great character guide and beginner combos!
One of my buddies told me he could beat me in this game (never played it before) and i watched half of this video and he was convinced ive played melty before. Im a huge Fate fan so playing Saber was who i was gonna lean to
i just watched this video since i've been curious how similar she is to nitroplus saber, after hearing they are both similar and really different. in case anyone's interested from my observations.
the main similarity is that they both are rushdown characters. her 214B looks really similar in both games, and seem to be used pretty similarily. as a (near) full screen low. nitroplus saber has no rekkas, a helm breaker, dive kick that covers a lot more space, and sometimes crossup, or hit low because of the angle(chicken blocking or hitting her before startup prevents it from being broken).
excalibur in nitroplus also has invul frames, and immediate startup after the super flash, so it some times can be used for hard call outs, where they can't react to super flashes. i personally dont see much nitroplus saber players backdash to bait much compared to just straight aggression with big buttons, with some mixups. i dont think she has the different visible and invisible sword modes as her nitro counterpart in melty.
the way they play are probably really different because of odd game mechanics but it'd be an interesting comparison vid if you played nitroplus, and feel like making one. since there aren't too many content creators who played both games too much.
Cool post! Vid sounds interesting but I'm focused elsewhere, but TY for idea
Saber gang 🤝
iirc, Avalon will even counter normal throws (not sure about cmd grabs). It's quite OD.
It counters everything in the game. Everything!
214A that launches them a little on block. Moon drive into normals when they are in the corner could be unblockable* my first thought on seeing that move.
thanks for the guide ! really helps! Saber seems hard to mix with, so this came right in time.
214(B) also has an armor frame.
Yea I had a similar thought. So did the Devs tho - so attacks just whiff lol. RIP
Deserve so much more subs 🥲
thanks for the guide! new to anime fighters and this was super helpful to learn some stuff for my main!
I did actually have a question though! for 214[A] and 214[B] (I think I notated that right. the held versions!) - what would the purpose of them be? just for mixing people up where they think an attack might come out and it doesnt?
Yea basically. I don’t think they are really worth it unless opponent is playing super patiently though
@@Diaphone thanks for the response!
holy shit ive been saved. now i can actually do proper blockstrings lmao
Damn you deserve tenure at Melty University for this one
They need to give saber more range
I use the air super basically only if I have to cash out 4 bars. Extended combo into air, land with air super into arc drive
thanks 4 this
really wish they would have added archer he would have had a bit of a more intresting move set.
See me when they add gilgamesh tho
most of the “useless” exs are used in blood heat/heat combos tbh
also nice Mash Kyrielight colors lol
I'm having a real hard time getting your combos going. I can do the 2C -> 5C -> 5C seemlessly, but after that it falls apart trying to do the 236B >j[C]
its a typo - should be 623B (see timestamp) ( also make sure you jump cancel right away and do it immediately..
@@Diaphone Thank you a ton. I'm unsure how I didn't catch that.
@@Diaphone Hey. Any chance you have any sort of tips on how to actually enter 623 using the PS5 controller? I've been at it for a decent portion of the day and yikes I can do it 1/10 of the time. That input feels so janky on both the d pad and the stick. I'm assuming you don't use a controller to play though.
thanks
Mid range baller character
Whats a good way to deal with jC with armor? Its hard to challenge air to air against characters like her and kouma. Love your guides, youre very skilled
Thanks - best way is to shield or preemptive air to air j.a
@@Diaphone never thought of doing jA, i always go for the big buttons and lose the trade hehe thanks for the help
@Diaphone if you're reading this. You make Sabre sounds like a very simple and powerful character. Why do you think it is that people often rate her quite poorly on tier lists? What are her weaknesses?
Just posted a vid on this actually - check it out
I've just started this game and I wanted to pick up saber and learn her combos but I can barely understand anything you're saying like the "6bc" I know what the BC stands for but not the 6, is there a video detailing what these terms and such mean because I can't seem to find one.
It's numpad notation (look at your keyboard). So 6 would mean forward. I think I'm going to include a guide for this kinda stuff in future vids.
@@Diaphone oh thanks man
Huge Fate fan so seeing Saber in this game made me get it. She's really fun and I'm doing pretty decent for my first 2D fighter! Also what do you mean by the numbers? I play on a ps4 so I'm assuming you're referring to the joystick inputs then the respective a,b,c.
The numbers meant the direction of input, look at the numpad of your keyboard to have a general idea of it.
789
456
123
2c mean move your joystick down and press c .
@@zhanhui81 Thanks!
Thanks!
give me back ryougi, give me knife throw and carakida
Are the clash frames/armor on the BE versions of 214 any good? I usually cancel them into 22C for a combo if I catch them with it but I feel like there is more to do with it
They're ok.. wish it had more clash frames or I'd use more. I think 623C best cancel option
Being a Saber main in melty blood is like beibg a Mario main in Smash
I thought air 236C was plus on block? Never actually labbed it out. Could be useful if you need to close out a round with slightly more damage
It’s a gimmick since they can just shield on reaction and get a full punish
And yea agreed there are probably some combs that use it. Also I think it’s the only way to convert from j236a without using MD
I have a question. Does Saber have a new moveset, or is hers recycled from another fighting game, like Fatal Fake, Fate/unlimited Codes, The Queen of Battlers II or Nitroplus Blasterz?
I think it’s brand new
@@Diaphone Can't they keep her moveset consistent? (Think Capcom's Ryu, as he's always had the same moveset no matter which game he's in.) If she had her Fatal Fake moveset, I'd play her. I cannot stand the fact she has to get completely different movesets every game she's in. From Fatal Fake to Fate/unlimited codes to The Queen of Battlers II to Nitroplus Blasterz to Melty Blood Type Lumina her gameplay changes to a point that all 5 iterations are five separate characters. How inconsistent.
I learned a couple of things for my oki. Last night I fought Roa player and I just could keep my turn at all after one combo. the jump forward than dash back is new to me so I'm add that to my options. Hopefully I can get to A rank soon. Long journey ahead of me to be one of the best Sabers out there. I hope for your help in the future DIaphone.
Look forward to playing against you then 🙏
Bro great vid. Quick question: sometimes when I do the BnB with the 214B, sometimes Saber turns around and does her 1st rekka hit (236B) into the empty air on the other side of the screen. Any clue why that is or how to fix it?
It sounds like you are doing the rekka before going into autocombo?
When you wish Diaphone played your main for the great helpful content. 😭 But good work. I've kind of had a hard time figuring out what her strengths and weaknesses are.
Thanks for the video! Could you please cover the Saber OS sometime in the future? I think Spooky on his stream said if you go j[C] > air d > 2a it covers a lot of wakeup options?
Yea I think I’ll prob do an os guide if no one does.. but people are still finding OSs so I’ll wait a bit
Just FYI, it's not really a thing that's specific to Saber. Any character can do that type of OS, except usually you'll get crouch shield. Essentially, you can time your shield input, so that it only comes out if j.C whiffs. You can also do something like meaty 2A > 2D > any normal (you'd go for this off of throw, for example). If you time it just right, it will beat heat and invincible reversals.
Quick question: when I do 22C > 2C > 5CCC, I don't get the cut-in launcher and the enemy doesn't go too high. Am I supposed to/can you still continue with jBB?
you are doing the 2C too late and its hitting "OTG" - just need to do earlier.
@@Diaphone finally got around to trying it and got it to work; thanks!
Any tips on how to not auto combo, I have a habit of preloading all of my inputs but in melty instead of getting my next hit I just auto combo. Do I just need to slow down and be more deliberate with single inputs or is there a workaround? my worst example is as Saber when I hit 2C and try to 5C into 6C, I just autocombo instead, tbh I really wish I could just turn it off.
Definitely need to slow down/mash less. Can't really mash out combos in this game or u get autocombo
You asked about j.236C
Well, with 4 bars, anything into j.236A > j.236C > 236B+C is the most damage you can get with 4 bars in a combo
(of course, Last Arc does more damage, but well, you can't combo into it)
It is actually possible to combo into Last Arc using Moon Drive. j.236B/j.236B+C > 5B+C > ABCD. This works as an ender in shorter combos and does around 4.3k damage.
@@SirSexySean Oh! Really nice to know! I'll test it out!
@@HGritzan you can also combo into it from a low hitting j.[c]
what does rebeats mean?
glossary.infil.net/?t=Reverse%20Beat
Just to get beat by some dude mashing down jab combos and shield launching you
Yea - system mechanics such as shield are really strong! Make sure you mix up your oki, use🙏 shield as well and keep practicing
didnt understand anything lmao im slow in the head
I feel like the rekka has there uses in different situations. The 236A>4A should mostly be used for spacing because the further away you are the more likely people can Shield the OH or low(if you delay it). The 236A>6A keeps you closer thus makes the mix less likely to be reacted to and keeps you in 22C range more consistently and still has the mix although they can potentially mash 5A on the OH. That's just my idea on it, anyway great video.
You always do a really good job with these guides. They are really easy to follow. Ty ty. Now I just need to find a good guide on akiha somewhere😂