This is absolutely fantastic! It’s so refreshing to hear prices. Very very few people are so rich they don’t even have to consider price. I’m much more likely to buy something if the price is clear. Thanks very much Kirby!
@@kirbyallison 2,100? In my current situation it’s pushing my budget limit, but within range. Thanks for the info. Good information for us economically challenged.
Indeed. I know there is some sort of established attitude in many "high end" marketplaces of not talking prices but really that can come across as condescending and for virtually every other thing we buy, price is advertised openly or there's a reasonably easy to understand price tag/sticker. Most of us need to be able to plan and meet a budget in order to get this anyway, so it helps to know up front.
Hello Mr. Allison, This is merely the 2nd or 3rd time in my life that I have logged into UA-cam to drop a comment. I have done so in order to tell you two things: 1) I absolutely love your channel and the content you put out. The videos of your visits to London are just stellar viewing. Thank you so much for shining the light on these purveyors of true, old-world craftsmanship that new-world, brand-oriented crap cannot hold a candle to. 2) I do not know if you have chosen to do so consciously or not, but your ignoring of Andrew Ramroop of Maurice Sedwell and Davide Taub at Gieves and Hawkes is just borderline criminal! These badass trailblazers are amongst the giants of The Row in their own right and deserve some of that Kirby Allison light to be shone upon them. They too have amazing stories that deserve to be told through your voice to your viewers. This situation needs to be rectified Mr. Alisson! I am thoroughly looking forward to being pleasantly surprised soon. Warm regards, Taimur
Great video! This is a story that you may enjoy. About twenty years ago I visited a local thrift store in search of file cabinet. I glimpsed a suit in my periphery as I walked through the suit section on my way to the furniture. I stopped and said to my wife, “I can tell this is a nice suit just by the way it looks”. The label was No. 1 Saville Row - Gieves and Hawkes. It fit me like a glove and was on sale for only $16.35.
My best dressed friend buys his dress clothes from vintage clothing shops. He showed me some khaki pants he bought that were made in the 1930s, the quality was amazing.
There's a lot of bespoke Savile Row suits that end up on eBay for a couple hundred dollars. I've always been tempted to pick one up, but nervous because it was specially cut for someone else and I wonder how badly I'd fit into it.
I can vouch for Redmayne’s suit copying service. They made me a three piece tuxedo for my wedding. It’s my favorite piece in my wardrobe by a wide margin.
Glad to hear this. I was just made aware of this offering, and it's almost too good to be true. That $1360 price per their site is incredible. My tailor's great (a full bespoke tailor himself), and I have one of those bodies that works really well with a few OTR brands to begin with. Canali for example just fits me great OTR. I have an inch smaller waist than the normal drop, but that's about it. Hem the pants, take in waist 1", shorten sleeves 1/4", and it fits like a glove. So I've done all my bespoke suits more for flexibility in fabric and detail options than for fit. This is a perfect option for me. I can grab one of my suits, send it over, and go crazy on fabric choices and smaller details (I checked, you can change up things like lapel width, peaks, etc... ), get bespoke build quality, but save a massive amount off of going with another full bespoke garment. Hell, many of my OTR suits MSRP for significantly more than their price. I'm sending a suit off to them. If everything comes out like I hope, this may very well become my go-to suiting option.
I'm considering their service and had second thoughts with respect to the price and whether it'll fit as well without any fittings. Glad theres someone who's been there.
When I was in Jordan in 2017 I had a bespoke suit in a wide pinstripe navy blue made by a well regarded and british trained Tailor. cost was 500 Jordanian Dinar or roughly 650 bucks. Suit is impeccable and fits like a glove. I should have bought more
I’m so glad to see Leonard Loggsdale included here. He is an exceptionally talented Taylor and was rated best in the world by WSJ previously. I’ve had several suits and jackets made by him and all are exquisite.
Thank you for helping to keep the bespoke industry made aware to others . I’m near NY now and although a born and raised NYer I was not aware of these suitmakers.
Would've never thought Kent&Haste would be that affordable 😳 I think I'm going to have a suit made there for my brother's wedding 2024. Just love the chemistry between the two blokes.
I really enjoyed that series as well. Certainly they are exceptional tailors, and i would go to them for a bespoke suit for sure! I hope they make something beautiful for you
I just watched your video and I absolutely loved it! I found your presentation to be incredibly informative and engaging. You did a great job of breaking down complex concepts into easy-to-understand terms. I also appreciated the humor and personal anecdotes that you sprinkled throughout the video. It made the content more relatable and enjoyable. You're one of the few UA-camrs who I can consistently count on to deliver high-quality content. Keep up the great work! "I outsourced this feedback to AI"
This was an interesting video, made so in large part due to the pricing. It can be difficult to get that sort of insight much of the time. Not long ago I had decided to reenter the work force and I knew I would need some new suits for the office. This was prior to Covid, so the sartorial customs were more traditional, and I wanted to step away from the OTR suits I had bought in the past. I did quite a bit of research and ended up deciding that I wasn't going to go the bespoke route. This was partially due to cost, but even more importantly an issue of time. Bespoke suits, by their very nature, are a longer process and I did not want to wait that long. Therefore, I decided to go with MTM, which I thought would provide most of the benefits of bespoke, on a shorter timeline and with a lower cost. I live near Columbus in Ohio, so I didn't have as many choices open to me as I would in NY, but I was able to find 3 shops to look at that I thought would be suitable, pun slightly intended. One of the things I figured out in the process of interviewing each of them, was that they all had a slightly different style. One was oriented towards more current fashion trends, another was more traditional, and the the last was somewhere in the middle. All three had me look at a wide selection of fabrics and buttons, and discussed their process at some length. The one I chose was the more traditional of the three, and part of the reason I went that way is because I'm in my late 50's and felt that it would better suit the sort of statement I was trying to make. I ended up purchasing a couple of suits and a sport coat, all of which were made with a 140 or 150 fabric and were priced in the $1,500 to $1,600 range. I also ordered several French cuff shirts, for a bit under $300 each, and a number of silk ties. I forget the cost on those. There was an extensive measuring process, an initial fitting when the suits came in, and a final fitting after a local tailor had made some minor adjustments. In the past, buying OTR suits that were then tailored, I was surprised by much of a step up the MTM suits were. I had expected them to be better of course, but not by so wide a margin. I am effectively spoiled now, and I'll never be able to buy OTR again, having experienced the difference. I don't know whether I will buy a bespoke suit at some point in the future, and I suspect that would depend on a number of factors, the main one being whether I felt I had a sufficient justification for that. In my area, bespoke suits are around $5,000 as a starting point, which is a lot of money to have hanging in a closet most of the time.
I was actually surprised by the somewhat accessible (entry level) prices of such fine craftsmanship... Anyone doing business should know the value of cementing a "well-groomed" personal and professional brand, and it all starts with how you present yourself. So, what would be the VALUE for a fitting garment that enhances your person and probably outlasts you throughout decades of use? We are talking about jewels made of cloth. Great roundup!
A bespoke suit probably won't last you even a decade, unless your weight stays the same, which for many people it doesn't. I wouldn't call 2,100$ per suit accessible either when it comes to building a professional wardrobe. You're much better off with made-to-measure options or even better no suits at all. You can look very professional in less formal attire which is much more affordable and not as pretentious.
Great video Mr. Kirby it has opened my eyes. Yesterday I bought 3.5 mts. of gray Super 150 San Ildefonso wool to craft me a new suit. It was $1,050.- MXN ($50 - $51 USD more or less) per meter. The same colour but Super 180 of Dormeuil Fabric (If I recall the brand correctly) was $1,900 - $2,000.- MXN (around $98 - 100.- USD) per meter. I guess I could earn more money if I stop being a lawyer and become a Savile Row Tailor or at least start to sell what I make.
I really like this, and I'd love to see a video on French suiting and Italian suiting as well. It seems like it's not just a different perspective on how to make the garments, but also how to wear them. Great video!
Hi Kirby, I have had really bad experiences with made-to-measure and bespoke. I really enjoyed your "bespoke suit 2022 pricing roundup", very informative. I definitely will try out one or two on the list. Thanks for putting the list together. Keep up the great work.
Fantastic guide! Hopefully you can follow up with one for French and Italian houses as well. Just one question: the bottom line price in USD for Dege & Skinner and Henry Poole are the exact same ($6500), while the price is different in British pounds. I presume that this is because one includes the VAT and another doesn't? Do firms in the UK have the discretion to charge or waive the VAT for their non-UK clients?
They have to charge the VAT and the customer cannot reclaim it unless he has the right customs papers and the goods are delivered straight to the USA. Then you are supposed to pay US import duties on entry to the USA. See here: www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/taxfree-shopping
As much as I would like to go full bespoke and can afford to my past experiences with MTM have been a disaster even after choosing very high quality fabrics . High quality off the rack suiting has always worked exceptionally well for me with very little adjustments given my stature and measurements however now that pricing has been made clear by you I think, as a gift to myself, I may go ahead and take the plunge, my choice: Anderson and Shepard , love their house style.
@@MyBinaryLife Yes, unfortunately he claimed to be a 'tailor' but I found out later that he was just a 'fraud' with an Italian name who claimed to be the real thing!
This makes me happy to have access to some Indonesian bespoke tailors. It may not be at the level of Savile Row, but for a fifth of the cost, the suit is still tailored to my exact measurements. It’s also available in the finest Italian fabrics. Speaking of tradition, the company has been in business since 1933.
Kirby, can you do a video on Yosel Tiefenbrun? He’s known as the Rabbi Tailor as he’s also a Hasidic rabbi but was trained by Maurice Sedwell on Savile Row. His bespoke offerings are reasonably priced and he’s based in Brooklyn.
What would be great would be some reviews of the lowest priced proper bespoke services, explaining what they do to make them that bit cheaper. I’m thinking graham browne, Macangus and wainwright, McCann etc
While there are reasons for this (cost of labour, rents etc.), Savile Row tailoring is clearly on the upper end in terms of pricing compared to other european tailors of equal quality, except for french superstars like Cifonelli, who's equally expensive (while being an excellent choice, of course). Thanks for the roundup, Kirby!
@@piccalillipit9211 it is worth noting that, Northern Italian tailoring will carry a steeper cost (brioni and canali to name 2) due to the increased use of canvassing. The lack of canvassing seen in southern Italian suits and jackets probably has the historical basis from the warmer climate as well as southern Italy traditionally being less wealthy than Northern Italy.
They are more expensive than I thought. When I wore business clothes I bought off the rack stuff that was made to be altered to fit (almost 20 years ago). I never spent more than about 400 US for a 2 piece suit. Can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a suit.
Dear Kirby, Your channel and it’s content is so unique and valuable. It is part of the words heritage. I think it’s importance will increase into the far future. Please continue what you do, it’s precious. Cheers 😊
Thanks for this video as I was determined to finally get a bespoke suit from Savile Row. I went with Edward Sexton and couldn't be happier after 2 fittings. One more fitting left and I should be getting my finished suit by May.
Hello Kirby, I somehow stumbled on your site. Let me say that I’ve enjoyed watching several of your videos. A nice refreshing and relaxing alternative. Educational as well!
You missed out on another exceptional talented bespoke tailor from New York - Frank Shattuck, he has been in the trade for a long time - highly experienced and skillful, also very humble man. 100% handmade, hand drafting the paper pattern, true bespoke.
Hi Kirby, love your content....seeing as you have quite a few pair of black cap toe oxfords, It would be cool to see all of them in one video and see how each shoemakers style differs from each pair
I'm a bit surprised. Don't get me wrong as everything here is very expensive -- I'm a mere PhD student, so everything is way out of my budget 😂 -- but I was seriously expecting at least >7-8K USD at the lower end. Frankly, when you think about what people buy as toys for their own pleasure -- gaming computers, ATVs, boats, etc. -- it's not that bad. It makes me think that maybe one day I'll have the pleasure of having some custom garments made. If anyone out there finds these are within budget, please do enjoy on all our behalf. I'm always happy to see someone find a great piece that they like and enjoy wearing -- it reminds me of things like subtling over a great suit in a thrift store or winning awards and it makes me smile knowing someone else gets that excitment too. Cheers gentlemen! Back to my study -- it needs to be done if I want to buy stuff later. 😂
Have the cutout made into a shelf for the outside of the new opening for the lemon. Or use it to make good under or around the dash. Maybe around the steering. Nice idea to cut it up but I’d have a serious think about if you can use it first. That weather strip will save you from the rain , trust me I’m in the U.K. back lights you just need LED bulbs surely?
My father use to fly into London to Henry Poole & Co in the '80s Had his fittings and returned 3 months later And when trying on the suit for any trim He started to tear up The one man started to smile And said are you ok? Dad said You know really i thought it was a lot of BS hammed up about the material And how it fits And looks I teared up in the mirror when i saw a different man standing in it The man said The suit sir only projects the man And thank you sir You fit it well...............I have 3 Bespoke suits tailored to my father His money clip Cuff links And wallet The only thing of his i use is his straight razor
I thought I understood what bespoke was and I say was because after watching this evidently I did not. I just recently purchase what I thought was my first bespoke suit but it custom. Have not even worn it yet. Did a lot of measurements and picking out exactly how I want the suit but it was only 1 fitting and only ulteration needed was the waist on the trousers. I was so happy I ordered two more. Now taking a step back in understanding there are levels to this and I have more learning to do and will be seeking a true Bespoke. Would you say Michael Andrews Bespoke located in NYC is a true bespoke or customs.
Kirby…thank you for the excellent guidance. I’ll be in Dallas to meet with Divij for another suit or 2 to be commissioned. This is largely due to your advice. Would love to meet you some day. Take good care.
I’m stopping the video at 8:45 hopefully one day I can afford to wear some of these names. Well, maybe I won’t spend that money anyway. I’m wearing $50 suits I got at 50% discount that my local alterations lady fixed for me. It fits me so well that I’ve got people in my church asking me where I got these suits. Fit is king, if you have someone like that lady who can do totally professional alteration for $135. You’ll look like you’re wearing a 5K suit. Don’t ask me what material is made of, it just looks fascinating. Off course, if you can afford a Rolex or a $1K bottle of wine why wouldn’t you go to NY.
I live near Boston. I’ve actually asked after suiting for a woman, and…at least the one place I asked didn’t really do female cuts. They offered to try, but I mean, for the price I want someone a bit more practiced in female fashion. This was not one of the top tier shops though, definitely not in the 5 figures range.
pro arbitrage tip: get a bespoke suit made in a developing country. You get some world class tailors in countries like India. Some of whom even received training on Savile Row. You can a very high quality suit for about 500-800 pounds. Even if you factor in flight costs, that's less than a bespoke suit of an equivalent quality tailored in the west
Very impressive information on the Besopkes Tailors in Eengland . Was wondering about Rolph Lauren Suits and Blazers I have a Navy Pea Coat from him I also love the more expensive pea coat
You mention divij starts at $2100 but when I checked out their website there are suits as low as $1200. Is the $1200 just the fabric and you add $2100 on top of that? Can you clarify? Thanks.
Great video ! With todays exchange rates , you could probably fly to huntsman in Kondon and have two fittings for the GBP price. Great time to buy a English bespoke
Out of curiosity why have you not mentioned Gives and Hawkes? Paul Jheeta and Davide are probably also one of the finest cutters on Savile Row ? Why have you also left out Maurice Sedwell? Andrew Ramroop is a true master tailor. You also left out Ede and Ravenscroft. The oldest bespoke tailor on Savile Row. Technically they are just off Savile Row but they are the oldest. In early 17th Century.
Great presentation! Can you please comment on whether different houses offer different fabrics or do they all have the same kind of Dormeuil swatches etc? One of the unique things about off the rack Kiton or Ford is that they have fabrics that you presumably could not find anywhere else. Some but not all of which are available for made to measure. Thank you.
Kirby, I love your videos and I'm a long time customer of the Hanger Project. My constructive criticism is that you put too much into the supposed prestige of not only being on Savile Row, but having on site work rooms. Longtime members of the SRBA like Anderson & Sheppard, Meyer & Mortimer, Welsh & Jeffries, Malcolm Plews, and Kent, Haste & Lachter are still "Savile Row Tailors" even though their showrooms are located on streets surrounding the Row. I would argue that the term "Savile Row" in relation to tailoring, historically means the general Savile Row area between Conduit and Piccadilly, and not literally on the street itself. I would also argue that you are probably getting a more experienced coat or trouser maker when you go to a tailor who uses seasoned out-workers rather than using their own in-house teams. These outworkers make more money per garment, but usually aren't on the track at a house to move up and become a cutter. Keep up the good work.
This is great information I’m a young girl (studying fashion design) learning how to make bespoke suits by myself I would love to have people to practise with
It makes me mad that most houses do not list their prices for bespoke clothing, nor do they even list the fabrics you can choose from. They don’t necessarily need some crazy online 3D configurator tool, even though that should be standard for all designers and brands that offer bespoke or made to measure, but they could at least have pages dedicated to the fabric selections along with what each of them adds to the price of a suit. Sure some places do have prices listed vaguely, but that probably only includes their base fabrics. Nice suits are all about the fabrics once you have a decent fit and make. Some fabrics are insanely expensive. Like crazy Vicuna, chinchilla, or guanaco blends. I can imagine fabrics like those would increase the price of a bespoke suit by anywhere from 10-50k dollars. Sure I cannot afford that. But I like to dream.
I understand what you’re saying because for years I have had it on my list to do a bespoke suit and recently did but after watching this video come to realize I did a custom made suit. Still a lot of details but no where near a bespoke. I got measure picked out fabric and other details and then about 6 weeks later the suit came in and I did one fitting and went back a week later and picked it up which was last week. After watching this I now understand. I did two pairs of trousers and two waistcoats. When talking to the owner he gave me a range based on fabric. 130 or 150 the starting point and all depends obviously on my selections
As I told Pablo Morales (who mentioned Maurice Sedwell farther down in the comments section), Andrew Ramroop and his wife (whose name I don’t know, unfortunately ☹️) are each half the owner of Maurice Sedwell since January 2nd, 1989. They don’t allow anybody other than themselves and each other to promote their product. Andrew Ramroop and his wife will retire on New Year’s Eve in 2027. Their daughter in-law and son (whose names I also, don’t know, sorry ☹️) will buy the firm on August 9th, 2027. They will take over on the firm’s 90th anniversary (January 3rd, 2028). They, too won’t allow anybody other than themselves and each other to promote their product. Maurice Sedwell’s suits currently start at £6,300/$7,938. £1.00 is $1.26 during the typing of this message. It was $1.35 when this video was filmed. For what it’s worth, other than being 84 years old, Maurice Sedwell (including their cufflinks) is Pure Savile Row Bespoke, as Kirby Allison described.
Hi Kirby, Fantastic video. Some content on Cad & the Dandy &Richard Anderson would be fantastic. I find both quite interesting. Looking forward to the Super Trunk Show next week - I'll be there! Thanks :)
Yes. Michael is very talented. But quite a niche oriented business. Would love to film with him sometime. Actually inherited a suit he made for a late friend.
Why did you leave out Charles Bennett in Chicago? They are actually bespoke in the US. The cutter, tailor, and everyone else involved in making the suit is in house, on site, in Chicago.
Kirby, you should check out William Field in Washington, D.C. One of the few American bespoke tailors. Will was trained on Saville Row, and his father started the business in Washington after moving from London (also having Saville Row training).
@@kirbyallison I believe Will offers both a MTM and bespoke service. I commissioned a bespoke suit from him last year. I had 3 fittings and Will did all the work on his own. I think he used to have assistant seamstresses, but had to let them go after the pandemic.
A bespoke suit is the ultimate goal for me, but at 19 years old it would be rather impractical. That being said, I'm looking forward to the day when I do get a bespoke suit, whenever that may be!
Make it an actual goal. Write it down and set a deadline. Then work towards that deadline. Every aspect of life goes from a dream to a goal when you write it down and add a deadline. Goals come completion much more often than dreams coming true.
@@michaelt312 That is a fine idea, but getting a bespoke suit is not quite high on my priority list, and I don't imagine it's not something I can even think about of doing within the next 5 years.
The easiest way for you to get a bespoke suit is go for a holiday to Hong Kong , Saigon , Kuala Lumpur , Phukett ,Penong etc , take a suit or a sport coat and trousers which you consider a terrific fit and you will find a tailor who will be able to copy the garment to your satisfaction , know what a good fabric is before you commit make sure you have at least two fittings and don't be afraid to ask for changes . I was a journeyman Tailor for fifty years and was a top suit salesman for a prestigious firm , who sold suits upwards of$2 ,000 dollars was considered one of the best dressed men in my city and never paid more than $500 for a tailored suit . My last trip to Penang Malaysia i had made a pure Australian merino wool suit a pure wool blazer and sports trousers along with 3 hand made pure Egyptian cotton business shirts all for under $1 ,900 and I had a great holiday to boot . Of course Savile Row is the perceived pinnacle in bespoke garments but I'll stack up my wardrobe against them any day .
I am a Malaysian. I got my first bespoke midnight blue tuxedo for about MYR1000++ (Tuxedo jacket and pants MYR 1300, Tuxedo white shirt MYR 200). I got it at Hello Bespoke KL.
In a way, but you have to remember that they sell thousands of suits to people from all over the world, that means that rental cost is spread around between many customers and so isn’t as significant as it first appears.
It sounds like a lot of money on face value but when you look at it, you get a perfectly fitting garment every time and you don’t need to buy a new suit every few years. Truly nothing better
One more NY area tailor that is great is Joseph Genuardi. His atelier is in Hoboken. He apprenticed with the famous Joseph Centofanti of Philadelphia and then led the bespoke division of Martin Greenfield. He was responsible for President Obama’s suits. Joseph’s suits are true bespoke and at a much more competitive price point than tailors in Manhattan.
Something I haven’t understood is how people find the time to go get a bespoke fitting done, especially in another country. Do people just take time off work using PTO or something to get these done? Something I want to do someday, but I just don’t quite understand the time commitment and finding when people go.
This is absolutely fantastic! It’s so refreshing to hear prices. Very very few people are so rich they don’t even have to consider price. I’m much more likely to buy something if the price is clear. Thanks very much Kirby!
I was actually surprised in putting this together how much more reasonable a lot of these houses are than I had expected.
@@kirbyallison Exactly my thoughts! They’re not quite as intimidating as I thought.
@@kirbyallison 2,100? In my current situation it’s pushing my budget limit, but within range. Thanks for the info. Good information for us economically challenged.
I had always assumed bespoke Taylor’s were in the category. If you need to ask , you can’t afford.
Indeed. I know there is some sort of established attitude in many "high end" marketplaces of not talking prices but really that can come across as condescending and for virtually every other thing we buy, price is advertised openly or there's a reasonably easy to understand price tag/sticker. Most of us need to be able to plan and meet a budget in order to get this anyway, so it helps to know up front.
Hello Mr. Allison,
This is merely the 2nd or 3rd time in my life that I have logged into UA-cam to drop a comment. I have done so in order to tell you two things:
1) I absolutely love your channel and the content you put out. The videos of your visits to London are just stellar viewing. Thank you so much for shining the light on these purveyors of true, old-world craftsmanship that new-world, brand-oriented crap cannot hold a candle to.
2) I do not know if you have chosen to do so consciously or not, but your ignoring of Andrew Ramroop of Maurice Sedwell and Davide Taub at Gieves and Hawkes is just borderline criminal! These badass trailblazers are amongst the giants of The Row in their own right and deserve some of that Kirby Allison light to be shone upon them. They too have amazing stories that deserve to be told through your voice to your viewers.
This situation needs to be rectified Mr. Alisson! I am thoroughly looking forward to being pleasantly surprised soon.
Warm regards,
Taimur
He did a video on G/H and M/S.
Great video! This is a story that you may enjoy. About twenty years ago I visited a local thrift store in search of file cabinet. I glimpsed a suit in my periphery as I walked through the suit section on my way to the furniture. I stopped and said to my wife, “I can tell this is a nice suit just by the way it looks”. The label was No. 1 Saville Row - Gieves and Hawkes. It fit me like a glove and was on sale for only $16.35.
My best dressed friend buys his dress clothes from vintage clothing shops. He showed me some khaki pants he bought that were made in the 1930s, the quality was amazing.
There's a lot of bespoke Savile Row suits that end up on eBay for a couple hundred dollars. I've always been tempted to pick one up, but nervous because it was specially cut for someone else and I wonder how badly I'd fit into it.
I can vouch for Redmayne’s suit copying service. They made me a three piece tuxedo for my wedding. It’s my favorite piece in my wardrobe by a wide margin.
Glad to hear this. I was just made aware of this offering, and it's almost too good to be true. That $1360 price per their site is incredible. My tailor's great (a full bespoke tailor himself), and I have one of those bodies that works really well with a few OTR brands to begin with. Canali for example just fits me great OTR. I have an inch smaller waist than the normal drop, but that's about it. Hem the pants, take in waist 1", shorten sleeves 1/4", and it fits like a glove.
So I've done all my bespoke suits more for flexibility in fabric and detail options than for fit. This is a perfect option for me. I can grab one of my suits, send it over, and go crazy on fabric choices and smaller details (I checked, you can change up things like lapel width, peaks, etc... ), get bespoke build quality, but save a massive amount off of going with another full bespoke garment. Hell, many of my OTR suits MSRP for significantly more than their price.
I'm sending a suit off to them. If everything comes out like I hope, this may very well become my go-to suiting option.
I'm considering their service and had second thoughts with respect to the price and whether it'll fit as well without any fittings. Glad theres someone who's been there.
When I was in Jordan in 2017 I had a bespoke suit in a wide pinstripe navy blue made by a well regarded and british trained Tailor. cost was 500 Jordanian Dinar or roughly 650 bucks. Suit is impeccable and fits like a glove. I should have bought more
And now you can have it copied for not a whole lot more!
What;s the name of the place
I’m so glad to see Leonard Loggsdale included here. He is an exceptionally talented Taylor and was rated best in the world by WSJ previously. I’ve had several suits and jackets made by him and all are exquisite.
Unreal Taylor the only one I now use
@Chip Belori ha ha see why your called chip
@@spurs541 Back to elementary school for you: it's "you're", not "your".
@@am9120 thank you I am learning English only been 6 months all helps 🙏
@@am9120 and you must have missed the day they taught that periods go inside quotations
Thank you for helping to keep the bespoke industry made aware to others . I’m near NY now and although a born and raised NYer I was not aware of these suitmakers.
Would've never thought Kent&Haste would be that affordable 😳
I think I'm going to have a suit made there for my brother's wedding 2024.
Just love the chemistry between the two blokes.
I really enjoyed that series as well. Certainly they are exceptional tailors, and i would go to them for a bespoke suit for sure! I hope they make something beautiful for you
Let’s be honest. Their attractive assistant really makes them an even easier choice.
I completely agree! They are so charming, and their work is incredibly beautiful.
As an aspiring gentleman attempting raise my station in life your videos have been invaluable. Thank you Kirby.
I just watched your video and I absolutely loved it! I found your presentation to be incredibly informative and engaging. You did a great job of breaking down complex concepts into easy-to-understand terms. I also appreciated the humor and personal anecdotes that you sprinkled throughout the video. It made the content more relatable and enjoyable. You're one of the few UA-camrs who I can consistently count on to deliver high-quality content. Keep up the great work! "I outsourced this feedback to AI"
Just as Kirby was about to discuss the $9500+ Huntsman suit, I got an ad for a hoodie.
If you don’t have UA-cam premium, this is not for you 😂
Was it a Tactical one?
@@thomassaywutNot true; most people prefer not to waste money unnecessarily, especially on youtube premium.
This was an interesting video, made so in large part due to the pricing. It can be difficult to get that sort of insight much of the time.
Not long ago I had decided to reenter the work force and I knew I would need some new suits for the office. This was prior to Covid, so the sartorial customs were more traditional, and I wanted to step away from the OTR suits I had bought in the past.
I did quite a bit of research and ended up deciding that I wasn't going to go the bespoke route. This was partially due to cost, but even more importantly an issue of time. Bespoke suits, by their very nature, are a longer process and I did not want to wait that long. Therefore, I decided to go with MTM, which I thought would provide most of the benefits of bespoke, on a shorter timeline and with a lower cost.
I live near Columbus in Ohio, so I didn't have as many choices open to me as I would in NY, but I was able to find 3 shops to look at that I thought would be suitable, pun slightly intended.
One of the things I figured out in the process of interviewing each of them, was that they all had a slightly different style. One was oriented towards more current fashion trends, another was more traditional, and the the last was somewhere in the middle. All three had me look at a wide selection of fabrics and buttons, and discussed their process at some length.
The one I chose was the more traditional of the three, and part of the reason I went that way is because I'm in my late 50's and felt that it would better suit the sort of statement I was trying to make. I ended up purchasing a couple of suits and a sport coat, all of which were made with a 140 or 150 fabric and were priced in the $1,500 to $1,600 range. I also ordered several French cuff shirts, for a bit under $300 each, and a number of silk ties. I forget the cost on those.
There was an extensive measuring process, an initial fitting when the suits came in, and a final fitting after a local tailor had made some minor adjustments.
In the past, buying OTR suits that were then tailored, I was surprised by much of a step up the MTM suits were. I had expected them to be better of course, but not by so wide a margin. I am effectively spoiled now, and I'll never be able to buy OTR again, having experienced the difference.
I don't know whether I will buy a bespoke suit at some point in the future, and I suspect that would depend on a number of factors, the main one being whether I felt I had a sufficient justification for that. In my area, bespoke suits are around $5,000 as a starting point, which is a lot of money to have hanging in a closet most of the time.
I was actually surprised by the somewhat accessible (entry level) prices of such fine craftsmanship... Anyone doing business should know the value of cementing a "well-groomed" personal and professional brand, and it all starts with how you present yourself. So, what would be the VALUE for a fitting garment that enhances your person and probably outlasts you throughout decades of use? We are talking about jewels made of cloth. Great roundup!
Jewels made of cloth. Great wording.
Couldn’t agree more!
A bespoke suit probably won't last you even a decade, unless your weight stays the same, which for many people it doesn't. I wouldn't call 2,100$ per suit accessible either when it comes to building a professional wardrobe. You're much better off with made-to-measure options or even better no suits at all. You can look very professional in less formal attire which is much more affordable and not as pretentious.
Great video Mr. Kirby it has opened my eyes. Yesterday I bought 3.5 mts. of gray Super 150 San Ildefonso wool to craft me a new suit. It was $1,050.- MXN ($50 - $51 USD more or less) per meter. The same colour but Super 180 of Dormeuil Fabric (If I recall the brand correctly) was $1,900 - $2,000.- MXN (around $98 - 100.- USD) per meter. I guess I could earn more money if I stop being a lawyer and become a Savile Row Tailor or at least start to sell what I make.
I really like this, and I'd love to see a video on French suiting and Italian suiting as well. It seems like it's not just a different perspective on how to make the garments, but also how to wear them. Great video!
Loved the passion you express for a handmade suit.
Hi Kirby,
I have had really bad experiences with made-to-measure and bespoke.
I really enjoyed your "bespoke suit 2022 pricing roundup", very informative. I definitely will try out one or two on the list. Thanks for putting the list together. Keep up the great work.
I am so sorry about that!!! This is a fantastic list for sure
Fantastic guide! Hopefully you can follow up with one for French and Italian houses as well. Just one question: the bottom line price in USD for Dege & Skinner and Henry Poole are the exact same ($6500), while the price is different in British pounds. I presume that this is because one includes the VAT and another doesn't? Do firms in the UK have the discretion to charge or waive the VAT for their non-UK clients?
They have to charge the VAT and the customer cannot reclaim it unless he has the right customs papers and the goods are delivered straight to the USA. Then you are supposed to pay US import duties on entry to the USA. See here: www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/taxfree-shopping
@@russ9921 Thanks!
Thank you Kirby! I have been wanting a video like this for a while.
Thank you so much. It’s suck bullshit that they won’t advertise prices, thank you for doing this.
As much as I would like to go full bespoke and can afford to my past experiences with MTM have been a disaster even after choosing very high quality fabrics . High quality off the rack suiting has always worked exceptionally well for me with very little adjustments given my stature and measurements however now that pricing has been made clear by you I think, as a gift to myself, I may go ahead and take the plunge, my choice: Anderson and Shepard , love their house style.
If RTW fits, go for it!
Did you get measured by the tailor for your MTM experience or did they just ask for your measutements?
@@MyBinaryLife Yes, unfortunately he claimed to be a 'tailor' but I found out later that he was just a 'fraud' with an Italian name who claimed to be the real thing!
@@supersonique001 sorry to hear it. sure sucks when youre expecting a great product and get let down, even beyond the cost.
@@MyBinaryLife Yeah, very disappointing! The only thing he got right were the trousers! So, buyer beware always.
This makes me happy to have access to some Indonesian bespoke tailors. It may not be at the level of Savile Row, but for a fifth of the cost, the suit is still tailored to my exact measurements. It’s also available in the finest Italian fabrics. Speaking of tradition, the company has been in business since 1933.
Could you share the name please?
@@TrevorOFarrell Wong Hang Tailor
I want to know too. I may never find myself in Indonesia, but if I do...
I’m planning on visiting Indonesia. What tailors have you had the best experience with?
Kirby, can you do a video on Yosel Tiefenbrun? He’s known as the Rabbi Tailor as he’s also a Hasidic rabbi but was trained by Maurice Sedwell on Savile Row. His bespoke offerings are reasonably priced and he’s based in Brooklyn.
Haven’t met him…
He is the real deal…look him up Kirby; tons of stuff about Tiefenbrun on the internet.
What would be great would be some reviews of the lowest priced proper bespoke services, explaining what they do to make them that bit cheaper. I’m thinking graham browne, Macangus and wainwright, McCann etc
While there are reasons for this (cost of labour, rents etc.), Savile Row tailoring is clearly on the upper end in terms of pricing compared to other european tailors of equal quality, except for french superstars like Cifonelli, who's equally expensive (while being an excellent choice, of course). Thanks for the roundup, Kirby!
@@piccalillipit9211 it is worth noting that, Northern Italian tailoring will carry a steeper cost (brioni and canali to name 2) due to the increased use of canvassing. The lack of canvassing seen in southern Italian suits and jackets probably has the historical basis from the warmer climate as well as southern Italy traditionally being less wealthy than Northern Italy.
everything Italian... is for show, no substance
Great video. Explanatory, not beating around the bush. Obviouslly took a lot of hassle to compile all that information. Spot on.
Awesome to see price points. Interesting to see the jump. Also timestamps are always appreciated.
Another great video Kirby. Keep it up. So insightful!
They are more expensive than I thought. When I wore business clothes I bought off the rack stuff that was made to be altered to fit (almost 20 years ago). I never spent more than about 400 US for a 2 piece suit. Can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a suit.
Dear Kirby,
Your channel and it’s content is so unique and valuable. It is part of the words heritage. I think it’s importance will increase into the far future. Please continue what you do, it’s precious. Cheers 😊
Mr. Ned in NYC is fairly priced and offers many different levels of fabric options.
Thank you Kirby! Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!
Thanks for this video as I was determined to finally get a bespoke suit from Savile Row. I went with Edward Sexton and couldn't be happier after 2 fittings. One more fitting left and I should be getting my finished suit by May.
Amazing video as always, keep up the great work!
Hello Kirby,
I somehow stumbled on your site. Let me say that I’ve enjoyed watching several of your videos. A nice refreshing and relaxing alternative. Educational as well!
Geat work Kirby!!! You are a master at what you do.
You missed out on another exceptional talented bespoke tailor from New York - Frank Shattuck, he has been in the trade for a long time - highly experienced and skillful, also very humble man. 100% handmade, hand drafting the paper pattern, true bespoke.
Watching this with $20 bank balance
You need at least $20000 in your account to comfortably afford this.
Hi Kirby, love your content....seeing as you have quite a few pair of black cap toe oxfords, It would be cool to see all of them in one video and see how each shoemakers style differs from each pair
I'm a bit surprised. Don't get me wrong as everything here is very expensive -- I'm a mere PhD student, so everything is way out of my budget 😂 -- but I was seriously expecting at least >7-8K USD at the lower end.
Frankly, when you think about what people buy as toys for their own pleasure -- gaming computers, ATVs, boats, etc. -- it's not that bad. It makes me think that maybe one day I'll have the pleasure of having some custom garments made.
If anyone out there finds these are within budget, please do enjoy on all our behalf. I'm always happy to see someone find a great piece that they like and enjoy wearing -- it reminds me of things like subtling over a great suit in a thrift store or winning awards and it makes me smile knowing someone else gets that excitment too.
Cheers gentlemen! Back to my study -- it needs to be done if I want to buy stuff later. 😂
if you are becoming a doctor, you'll have no troubles obtaining pure bespoke clothing.
Haste also had a hand in tailoring Jack Nicholson’s Joker Costumes for the 89 movie.
Have the cutout made into a shelf for the outside of the new opening for the lemon. Or use it to make good under or around the dash. Maybe around the steering. Nice idea to cut it up but I’d have a serious think about if you can use it first. That weather strip will save you from the rain , trust me I’m in the U.K. back lights you just need LED bulbs surely?
Thanks, good to actually see some numbers to go with all of the videos we've seen.
Excellent video, very informative! Thank you for the good work guys
My father use to fly into London to Henry Poole & Co in the '80s Had his fittings and returned 3 months later And when trying on the suit for any trim He started to tear up The one man started to smile And said are you ok? Dad said You know really i thought it was a lot of BS hammed up about the material And how it fits And looks I teared up in the mirror when i saw a different man standing in it The man said The suit sir only projects the man And thank you sir You fit it well...............I have 3 Bespoke suits tailored to my father His money clip Cuff links And wallet The only thing of his i use is his straight razor
I thought I understood what bespoke was and I say was because after watching this evidently I did not. I just recently purchase what I thought was my first bespoke suit but it custom. Have not even worn it yet. Did a lot of measurements and picking out exactly how I want the suit but it was only 1 fitting and only ulteration needed was the waist on the trousers. I was so happy I ordered two more. Now taking a step back in understanding there are levels to this and I have more learning to do and will be seeking a true Bespoke. Would you say Michael Andrews Bespoke located in NYC is a true bespoke or customs.
8:10, 9:14, 9:47, 16:36, 18:41, 21:37, 26:27 At the highest level
Bravo. Nice to see the different prices. Good video.
Kirby…thank you for the excellent guidance. I’ll be in Dallas to meet with Divij for another suit or 2 to be commissioned. This is largely due to your advice. Would love to meet you some day. Take good care.
New to the channel. I am really enjoying your content. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Kirby for your perfectly succinct presentation. Again.
Kirby, would love for you to visit Christopher Schafer in Baltimore. Bespoke and entirely crafted in his shop.
Cad and the Dandy bespoke starts from 1700 USD and it's cut by a Savile Row tailor.
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I just discovered the channel. What a great idea. Subscribed!
I’m stopping the video at 8:45 hopefully one day I can afford to wear some of these names. Well, maybe I won’t spend that money anyway. I’m wearing $50 suits I got at 50% discount that my local alterations lady fixed for me. It fits me so well that I’ve got people in my church asking me where I got these suits. Fit is king, if you have someone like that lady who can do totally professional alteration for $135. You’ll look like you’re wearing a 5K suit. Don’t ask me what material is made of, it just looks fascinating. Off course, if you can afford a Rolex or a $1K bottle of wine why wouldn’t you go to NY.
I live near Boston. I’ve actually asked after suiting for a woman, and…at least the one place I asked didn’t really do female cuts. They offered to try, but I mean, for the price I want someone a bit more practiced in female fashion. This was not one of the top tier shops though, definitely not in the 5 figures range.
Redmayne travels to Boston regularly. I expect they could work up something beautiful for you. Reach out to them and ask
pro arbitrage tip: get a bespoke suit made in a developing country. You get some world class tailors in countries like India. Some of whom even received training on Savile Row. You can a very high quality suit for about 500-800 pounds. Even if you factor in flight costs, that's less than a bespoke suit of an equivalent quality tailored in the west
Very impressive information on the Besopkes Tailors in Eengland . Was wondering about Rolph Lauren Suits and Blazers I have a Navy Pea Coat from him I also love the more expensive pea coat
You mention divij starts at $2100 but when I checked out their website there are suits as low as $1200. Is the $1200 just the fabric and you add $2100 on top of that? Can you clarify? Thanks.
Absolutely superb and very informative 👍🏽
Would have been better if we could take a closer look at the suit you’re currently wearing ⚡️👏🏽
Amazing video, as usual. Looking forward to see the list for France, Italy and Japan
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Very good informative video. Thank you
Great video ! With todays exchange rates , you could probably fly to huntsman in Kondon and have two fittings for the GBP price. Great time to buy a English bespoke
Out of curiosity why have you not mentioned Gives and Hawkes?
Paul Jheeta and Davide are probably also one of the finest cutters on Savile Row ?
Why have you also left out Maurice Sedwell? Andrew Ramroop is a true master tailor.
You also left out Ede and Ravenscroft. The oldest bespoke tailor on Savile Row. Technically they are just off Savile Row but they are the oldest. In early 17th Century.
Fantastic video Kirby, thank you!
A very good introduction to bespoke suits. Excellent.
My favourite suit is RTW.. fits like a glove, so you can get an exceptional suit that isn't bespoke.
Great presentation! Can you please comment on whether different houses offer different fabrics or do they all have the same kind of Dormeuil swatches etc? One of the unique things about off the rack Kiton or Ford is that they have fabrics that you presumably could not find anywhere else. Some but not all of which are available for made to measure. Thank you.
Kirby, I love your videos and I'm a long time customer of the Hanger Project. My constructive criticism is that you put too much into the supposed prestige of not only being on Savile Row, but having on site work rooms. Longtime members of the SRBA like Anderson & Sheppard, Meyer & Mortimer, Welsh & Jeffries, Malcolm Plews, and Kent, Haste & Lachter are still "Savile Row Tailors" even though their showrooms are located on streets surrounding the Row. I would argue that the term "Savile Row" in relation to tailoring, historically means the general Savile Row area between Conduit and Piccadilly, and not literally on the street itself. I would also argue that you are probably getting a more experienced coat or trouser maker when you go to a tailor who uses seasoned out-workers rather than using their own in-house teams. These outworkers make more money per garment, but usually aren't on the track at a house to move up and become a cutter. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. I would love to see an update in 2024 .
This is great information I’m a young girl (studying fashion design) learning how to make bespoke suits by myself I would love to have people to practise with
It makes me mad that most houses do not list their prices for bespoke clothing, nor do they even list the fabrics you can choose from. They don’t necessarily need some crazy online 3D configurator tool, even though that should be standard for all designers and brands that offer bespoke or made to measure, but they could at least have pages dedicated to the fabric selections along with what each of them adds to the price of a suit. Sure some places do have prices listed vaguely, but that probably only includes their base fabrics. Nice suits are all about the fabrics once you have a decent fit and make. Some fabrics are insanely expensive. Like crazy Vicuna, chinchilla, or guanaco blends. I can imagine fabrics like those would increase the price of a bespoke suit by anywhere from 10-50k dollars. Sure I cannot afford that. But I like to dream.
I understand what you’re saying because for years I have had it on my list to do a bespoke suit and recently did but after watching this video come to realize I did a custom made suit. Still a lot of details but no where near a bespoke. I got measure picked out fabric and other details and then about 6 weeks later the suit came in and I did one fitting and went back a week later and picked it up which was last week. After watching this I now understand. I did two pairs of trousers and two waistcoats. When talking to the owner he gave me a range based on fabric. 130 or 150 the starting point and all depends obviously on my selections
Mr. Allison, I don’t think I have ever heard you talk about Maurice Sedwell
As I told Pablo Morales (who mentioned Maurice Sedwell farther down in the comments section), Andrew Ramroop and his wife (whose name I don’t know, unfortunately ☹️) are each half the owner of Maurice Sedwell since January 2nd, 1989. They don’t allow anybody other than themselves and each other to promote their product. Andrew Ramroop and his wife will retire on New Year’s Eve in 2027.
Their daughter in-law and son (whose names I also, don’t know, sorry ☹️) will buy the firm on August 9th, 2027. They will take over on the firm’s 90th anniversary (January 3rd, 2028). They, too won’t allow anybody other than themselves and each other to promote their product.
Maurice Sedwell’s suits currently start at £6,300/$7,938. £1.00 is $1.26 during the typing of this message. It was $1.35 when this video was filmed.
For what it’s worth, other than being 84 years old, Maurice Sedwell (including their cufflinks) is Pure Savile Row Bespoke, as Kirby Allison described.
Thankyou kirby for the insight into bespoke suits amazing episode thankyou
Hi Kirby, Fantastic video. Some content on Cad & the Dandy &Richard Anderson would be fantastic. I find both quite interesting. Looking forward to the Super Trunk Show next week - I'll be there! Thanks :)
I see that Willets Bourbon ( geenie bottle looking one) its my absolute fave!!
Superb presentation! You should consider paying a visit to the exceptionally talented Michael Browne the next time you're in London.
He was trained by Joe Morgan at Chittleborough&Morgan
Yes. Michael is very talented. But quite a niche oriented business. Would love to film with him sometime. Actually inherited a suit he made for a late friend.
Great video. Covered a good number of options. Do you have a video of Bespoke options in Italy ?
Thank you
Great video Kirby!
You're looking tired Kirby! I hope you can get a good rest this weekend
Why did you leave out Charles Bennett in Chicago? They are actually bespoke in the US. The cutter, tailor, and everyone else involved in making the suit is in house, on site, in Chicago.
Kirby, you should check out William Field in Washington, D.C. One of the few American bespoke tailors. Will was trained on Saville Row, and his father started the business in Washington after moving from London (also having Saville Row training).
He has a MTM business. Great guy.
@@kirbyallison I believe Will offers both a MTM and bespoke service. I commissioned a bespoke suit from him last year. I had 3 fittings and Will did all the work on his own. I think he used to have assistant seamstresses, but had to let them go after the pandemic.
Why is Savile Row London the standard? Do LA, NY, Chicago, Milan, Paris, Hong Kong, or Tokyo offer quality just as good?
A Pelikan man, I see. Good taste. I’m partial to Sailor myself but Pelikans are beautiful.
A bespoke suit is the ultimate goal for me, but at 19 years old it would be rather impractical. That being said, I'm looking forward to the day when I do get a bespoke suit, whenever that may be!
Make it an actual goal. Write it down and set a deadline. Then work towards that deadline. Every aspect of life goes from a dream to a goal when you write it down and add a deadline. Goals come completion much more often than dreams coming true.
@@michaelt312 That is a fine idea, but getting a bespoke suit is not quite high on my priority list, and I don't imagine it's not something I can even think about of doing within the next 5 years.
And if your weight changed after couple months what would you do?
@@desertknights5003 either start eating or get your ass on a treadmill. One of the two.
The easiest way for you to get a bespoke suit is go for a holiday to Hong Kong , Saigon , Kuala Lumpur , Phukett ,Penong etc , take a suit or a sport coat and trousers which you consider a terrific fit and you will find a tailor who will be able to copy the garment to your satisfaction , know what a good fabric is before you commit make sure you have at least two fittings and don't be afraid to ask for changes . I was a journeyman Tailor for fifty years and was a top suit salesman for a prestigious firm , who sold suits upwards of$2 ,000 dollars was considered one of the best dressed men in my city and never paid more than $500 for a tailored suit . My last trip to Penang Malaysia i had made a pure Australian merino wool suit a pure wool blazer and sports trousers along with 3 hand made pure Egyptian cotton business shirts all for under $1 ,900 and I had a great holiday to boot . Of course Savile Row is the perceived pinnacle in bespoke garments but I'll stack up my wardrobe against them any day .
With a lot of the spring visits occurring soon, would love for Kirby to do a 2024 version of this roundup.
If you are located in southern Germany, just check out Vera Grünwald in Karlsruhe, finest bespoke tailoring and excellent service.
I am a Malaysian. I got my first bespoke midnight blue tuxedo for about MYR1000++ (Tuxedo jacket and pants MYR 1300, Tuxedo white shirt MYR 200). I got it at Hello Bespoke KL.
SR is like Harley Street for doctors. A good portion of your fee is to cover the rent.
In a way, but you have to remember that they sell thousands of suits to people from all over the world, that means that rental cost is spread around between many customers and so isn’t as significant as it first appears.
Great job sir ! However are you familiar with DAVID LANCE ? And what do you think? Thanks
Any Neapolitan bespoke tailors in New York or the United States that you can recommend?thanks
Awsome content, dear Kirby!Which blue (RAL) do you use in your office?😊
It sounds like a lot of money on face value but when you look at it, you get a perfectly fitting garment every time and you don’t need to buy a new suit every few years. Truly nothing better
The price doesn't account for the airfare to London and the hotel rooms. Just for that, do you book for business class or first class on BA or Virgin?
it's all a tax write off for him, as a business expense. the man is smart.
One more NY area tailor that is great is Joseph Genuardi. His atelier is in Hoboken. He apprenticed with the famous Joseph Centofanti of Philadelphia and then led the bespoke division of Martin Greenfield. He was responsible for President Obama’s suits. Joseph’s suits are true bespoke and at a much more competitive price point than tailors in Manhattan.
Fabulous video. I’d love to see a similar one on Italian trailers.
Great Information!
Another accessible Saville Row option is Cad & The Dandy
Something I haven’t understood is how people find the time to go get a bespoke fitting done, especially in another country. Do people just take time off work using PTO or something to get these done? Something I want to do someday, but I just don’t quite understand the time commitment and finding when people go.
It would be interesting if you investigated Vietnam bespoke tailors. Look into: Hoi An or Hanoi for different spots.