Why You SHOULD Consider a 250cc TWO-STROKE! | 2024 Yamaha YZ250
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2023
- Since the 2024 Yamaha YZ250 is basically the same bike as it has been for the past three years, there's not much to gain as far as a "first impression" of the new machine goes. That said, we got our Senior Test Rider Pat Foster together with our pal Brian "Scrub Daddy" Smith to discuss all of the things that make a Yamaha YZ250 a great choice. Scrub, in fact, has bought a new one every year for the past five years! Comment below on your thoughts about unchanged two-strokes!
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I jumped on the 4 stroke bandwagon in the 2000’s and then recently bought a 250 2 stroke. I now realize I should have bought a 250 2 stroke many years ago.
I blow up everything, Xr600r, blew up in 5k miles, tm 125, blew up in 12 hours, kx250f blew up in 30hours, kx250 2t, blew up in 6 hours, yz250 blew up 17hours after rebuild. When you are hard on your bikes, two strokes all the way because they are so much cheaper to fix. The only bike that survived my riding without blowing was a kdx 220
And you might not be quite as fast on a ya 250 vs a 450f but the smile is way bigger. And I’m not a professional. I’m want to have fun
Right on man, glad to have you back. They just make so much more sense especially maintenance wise.
So light, so fast, fast in whoops
@@quirinm.Sounds like a rider mod... or you're buying clapped out bikes.
Cheaper. Easier. Simply made perfect. Bring em back too supercross 🤜
Never happen just accept it
Why just accept?
If everyone had that attitude in life nothing would ever be changed
2T will never be a part of Supercross again. Just enjoy them
I believe that the manufacturers pay attention to sales. If everyone buys a new 2 stroke and nobody buys any 4 strokes the 2 stokes will come back. We ALL just have to make ourselves heard at the sales desk
@@holmes1956O just got my new 24 YZ450F. It’s AWSOME. Never going back
Was on 4 strokes my whole life and went to a YZ250 a couple years ago. Cant see myself going back to 4 strokes. Too much fun!
The best moto decision I ever made was getting a YZ 250. It made me a better rider, it brought all the joy back to riding. God bless 2 strokes.
Amen to that brother. ❤👍😎🤘
@@TheFox2racing👍I’ve been a Suzuki rider all my life I always had a soft spot for the Yamaha yz’s I’d gladly get on one of these new ones 🇦🇺
I'm 71 and have a CRF450R since 05, I have lost a lot of weight and decided to buy a YZ250R---wow what a great bike. I raced a 400 CZ and a RM400 back in the day. My 250 is like putting on a nice fitting pair of gloves. It is perfect.
Awesome you're still out there riding!! I hope to be doing the same for the next 20 years too!(I'm 54) you inspire me man!!
56 still riding , RM 250 . Two stroke for life , my previous bike YZ 250, and before that CR 125 . and the whole time Yamaha Blaster especially for the snow in NY ,,, Trump 2024 .
Because they are better motorcycles than the four strokes.
Lies two smokes have their place as carbs have their place four strokes efis are more perfect in more ways and user friendly if there was only two strokes a lot of people would be put off the sport don’t get me wrong I started on two strokes love the sound and smell but man from sea to mountains In altitude getting that sweet spot is difficult not every one has time to f around with jetting or have the knowledge
@@Nick-iv9ifand, efi on a two stroke kills that argument cold.
Yes
Motocross was more popular and more affordable for the average person when everyone rode a two stroke.@@Nick-iv9if
No it doesn’t it’s proven fact two strokes efi isn’t quite there and you are relying on fuel mix as a lubricant so there is so much of user error that could go wrong we are in a generation of people who are idiots and have no common sense so you are relying upon these muppets to no what to do just face it 2 strokes have a place but it’s time to move on
After 20 years of 450 four strokes I recently rode a cr500... realized instantly that we had been screwed by the industry with 4 strokes. Why can’t we get an EFI big bore 2 stroke?
KTM 300 SX
You can, it will just cost you an arm and a leg.
I rode a friends 23 Ktm 300 and sold both of my cr 500s and bought a 300 a week later. Ktm 300 is the ultimate fun all around bike.
@@semiproperformance3071 this is the way
there is a place making them for the current Honda chassis. it's amazing. look up Tomasin R&D, T500. it's an Italian company. kit is $9000 US.
YZ 250 is the go anywhere do anything, jack of all trades, best all around dirt bike of all time.
I couldn’t agree more thanks for the video. 3 weeks ago I just picked up a 2024 yz250
Cool!
Props brother keep brapping it up.👍 2 Strokes RULE 4 strokes drool. !!!! ❤👍😎🤘
Was it heavy? 😊😊
Yes it was a little. I was pretending it was flying through the air 😊😂
Even many professional racers say if they want to win at a pro event they ride a four stroke but when they want to have fun they ride a two stroke. I restored my 1995 CR250 to brand new condition. It is my main ride.
Finished my 1994 KX250 last year also. Was my desert race bike back in 94-96, then a fun bike until 2001. Then I took it completely apart, powder coated the frame, then had to put it into boxes for a move. Was in boxes until last year. In 94 I had removed all the oem plastics, so when I put it back together it was just like new again with all the purple graphics. Looks as good as Larocco's 94 bike you see in the supercross pits.
Is it difficult finding parts for the older bikes?
@@ronn68 The rebuild I did above was pretty easy to find parts. There are still many OEM parts as many of the parts span 10 years on different vehicles. For example I got an OEM gas cap for the stock tank as the original cracked. The part number was used for jetski's up into the 2010's. If you are going to do one of these projects I would source out the parts ahead of time before committing.
It depends on the bike. For my 1995 CR250 I did not have any problem finding parts at all. I also have a 1986 CR125 and that bike has a few parts that cost more because there are not many around. @@ronn68
94, 95 and 96... best years ever for the Cr250. no good after 97.
Bro!!! Gotta lose the background music. Don’t need it when it’s a 2-Stroke vid 😂
Had to use it because it was so windy that day - you could barely hear the bike 😭
oh ok. I did think the same thing. @@swapmotolive.
But music was a touch loud when Scrub was talking, at least on my 27" iMac.
27” iMac? Damn, that’s a big dawg. ,, got get me one of those . @@keithtarrier4558
Too loud during the convo
I own '22 450f and '23 250-X. And I come from the 70's generation. Two-Stroke is all I know... and its nice to hear the younger generation is giving props🫡
Amen to that totally agree. 👍😎🤘
I love my YZ250 smoker and I love watching Pat Foster shred a track with a smoker.
I have a 2023 Yamaha YZ250. I love it!!! I bought it new in September 2022. I'm 52 and the bike is faster than me. Buy one, you won't regret it. 🤘
Only reason I have owned 2 KTM two strokes in the last 5 years is because of that magic button. I had one of these Yz's (a 2013) a while back and quite honestly, the power character is very much "old school" in that it jumps on and off the pipe pretty abruptly. Not necessarily a bad thing, but when you're doing 2+ hours in a Hare Scramble, could get tiring. Not to mention, possibly stalling it or dumping it and having to kick it over after you have already been riding for an hour and a half spikes the heart rate up to say the least. Other than that, the powerplant is super solid.
That button is the only reason I am looking to change bikes too, but I'm thinking Italian.
@@ddrowdy2 I’m sure you’ll do your research, but there’s a channel on here called 3 Seas Recreation who happens to be a Beta Dealer. They post videos of customer bikes at time with some issues. Also, prior to 23’ they have clearance issues with the radiators basically hitting the fork tubes when you turn the bars. Love how they still keep it simple with the Carburetor though. Then, there’s that new Fantic 300 which is essentially and hyper-modified YZ250 (shares the same frame and everything). This thing has throttle body injection, electric start and an electronic power valve and of course the SSS KYB fork. Super impressive but I don’t think it’s out to market yet.
Hay Scrub Daddy !
Have you thought of getting some sponsors together and doing a YZ250 2 stroke build.
You got the star power to get it done !
Listen to the video and read the comments, what you will hear is that we forgot why we started riding dirt bikes in the first place was because it was "Fun", I'm old and retired. I just like riding a nice Race Bike and have Fun with it. 😊
ME TOO JOSE,IM 85 NOW AND I RIDE AHUSKY 150 2T ,I LOVE THE ELECTRIC START AND HANDLING
In my experience my first bike was crf 100f first kick every time even in that Texas freeze the other year now I got a yz 125 and man i feel in love with 2 stroke ever since
I bought one a few months ago, Husqvarna TE150i absolutely love it!!
Didn’t know they made a 150i. No carb on it?
@@stevestiffler9120 no carb. TPi injection is really torquey and makes it act like a 200. maybe more torque than a KDX 200. but hold out till they make it TBi... will be even better. fyi, that's transfer port and throttle body injection.
Well I just picked up 2002 Cr 250 and a 2006 rm 250. Going back to my roots
Havent rode in nearly 20 years, owned a 92, 95, 98 and 2000 YZ250. I got goose bumps 10 seconds in when they started the test bike!
Scrub Daddy always fun to watch and listen to for sure
Let’s goooo 2 stroke for life 🤣
I just got a 22 Ktm 2smoker. Cant wait to try it out at LACR this weekend! Let’s get it boys!!!
Nothing like the sound of a revved out 2-stroke! 💯Especially in the air!!! 👍
I have a gas gas 250 two-stroke. One of the nicest things about it is the electric start. And the fact that it doesn't load up if you ride it around slow.
I've owned and ridden tons of bikes. Just about everything. And I love my 1998 RM125. It always starts first kick and you don't even have to kick it all the way down. I also have a yz250. But I mostly ride the 125
That ’93 coloring is pure love 💕
Fast forward 10 years and do this again when everyone is over the instant torque of the E bikes...
IN THE 80S I RODE A YAMMY YZ 465 FOR 3 YEARS,IT WAS MORE FUN THAN A HUMAN BEING IS ENTITLED TO HAVE
My 2001 Suzuki RM250 is still the craziest 2-stroke, craziest bike, I've been on. Even my buddy with the 97 CR500 thinks it is insane to ride. It has 2 throttle settings.....idle and go like hell!!!! It is a bit crazy to ride in the forest, but is a dream in the dunes with a paddle tire. I love the smell of 2-stroke in the morning! lol
Don't have to twist my arm... Love my YZ two stroke. Simple bike and great motor/suspension/chassis.
Beautiful!-colour scheme like my beloved 1989 YZ250w. Collecting an 03 tomorrow-wish it was one of these.
Didn't the '89 WR have blue lettering along with the blue seat? I had a regular '89 YZ, red seat and lettering. These do look pretty good but I would switch the seat to red if I got one.
@@ddrowdy2hiya- Ive got a pic somwhere on one of my old vids-it was an YZ 89 for sure-not a Wr,- the vid is 10 yrs old
-"80s motocross bikes i raced"-buried in the video section
It came with white radiator shrouds and a big Yz sticker like this" 24 model, great bikes- still are eh...
@@volksquadman Yeh thats the standard YZ250 just like mine. I got confused over the YZ250w, my brother in law got a WR at the same time I got my bike, Pretty sure everything that was red on our bikes was blue on his WR version, Great bikes.
I just got a 23 yz250, just shy of 2 hours on it and even smells new lol
Wow so light and power everywhere, rip the house off the foundation 😊
If you have a YZ250, get a RAD Valve and remove the torque spacer. It is like having an afterburner. 🔥 Get a 9oz. flywheel weight while at it!
Scrub daddy!!! in the house!!
I'd love to won/ride that.
someone really messed up in this vid, and that is the one responsable for the sound part.
The intro is mixied the music with a awefully choppy 2 stroke sound (is that engine ok ?)
The the music is just poluting the whole video.
Dude, the SOUND is what we are here for. The Engine IS the music !
OMG FINALLY!!!!! Hell yeah I’m headed to my local dealer to drool
The AMA should allow 205 two-strokes to compete against 250 4-strokes in SX and the Nationals. The quad-banger is coming very close to a typical two-stroke in power, let's put them head-to-head and see what happens....
Those graphics are beautiful
2 strokes, 4 strokes, 4 cylinders, v twins, singles, they're all great in their own way. But when you're budget conscious and riding dirt, 2 stroke all the way. Thanks for the content. Cheers from OZ
Dream bike! Also, what is the background music? So sick!
Love this....
My first and only bike was a built '91 YZ250 with a white/purple color package. Works pipe, Wiseco piston, motocross sprocket..fast enough to fake knowing how to do a wheelie..
Almost 40 yrs riding and I've never ridden a 4 stroke motocrosser. Ever
Scrub Daddy!!!!!!!! You the man!!!!
You should make more videos with Scrub Daddy!!! This dude would put ANYONE in a good mood just being around him!!! It's 100% ODVIOUS why so many folks like him!!! Bring him back!!
No choice. I jumped on a smokin' deal for a '24 300SX with $3k in mods. It's my alternative to a big thumper. Power is linear and broad. I tested it back to back with a YZ250. If the SX was stawk, I prolly would rather pay half the price for the YZ. The SX tho, no vibration and felt like a magnet was holding it to the ground. Excellent bite in flat turns with the one spring fork leg. I don't get any arm soreness, like the hit I get from my 200SX with the new STIC Super X carb! The YZ250 really needs nothing, but there is a new simple PV product called Hitliss that I'd install along with the big power adder, the Super X.
Does the 300sx burn gas faster than the four stroke?
@@metalofthedeath Yup, always the case for smokers
I went for a Husky 250 2 stroke. Best decision ever. Still carbureted. 450f is too much, its nice because you can ride the whole track on 3rd gear but if you really want to push, the bike will push too damn much. Cant do 5 laps on a 450f... 250f is awesome! Plenty of fun, but... valvues go way too soon, and im not rebuilding another 4stroke in my like. 250 2 smoke is cheap and has just the right amount of power! Im extremely happy with it and im keeping it forever hahahahaha the no engine braking was something to get used to but i now see it as a good thing! front tire is not dipping when ever I stop accelerating which is more predictable if you ask me.
I HAVE A HUSKY 150 2T AND I FEEL THE SAME AS YOU,IM 85..ENJOY EVERY RIDE
@@danburby7936 wow 85! Inspiring Sir
Just bought my 1st 2 stroke and never looking back!
This is not a modern two stroke. It’s a non electric start, carb bike. When Yamaha at least adds a magic button I would love to consider one.
Im interested in a new 125. Gonna go pick up a new 250f in a few weeks, maybe I can find a cheaper used 23 yz125 as well
As soon as I can sell my 2020 crf450 I'm buying a yz250 or 125 not sure yet. I'm 180lbs so might go with the 250..only reason I was thinking 125 because my teenage son could ride it soon..he's almost 13
Slowly weeding out my 4 stroke fleet
The sound alone its a win . Harder to ride but can go faster than 250f stock for stock.
Loved, loved, loved, the CRF450 I took a spin on. After riding my new Austrian 450, I said "Can I have my two-stroke back?".
ScrubDaddy looked good in those whoops!
That thing looking crispy
Never understood why people would prefer 4 stroke over 2 stroke? …maybe in the dual sport/street bike world but for MX & SX it seems like a no brainer
Love my 250 TPI
Man they don’t have any of the 24 purple and white in Cali for the 250. Just the monster graphics. Said they could get it shipped but not until after June.
2 strokes are badass✌️. Sold my CR500 to buy a 450F because everyone was talking how fast they were and I wouldn't have to mess with mixing fuel.... what a slow tank that thing was.... 2 strokes all the way.
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I sold a CR500 for a CRF450, that's crazy man
@@mattress7005 it was a hard lesson learned. One of those times should never follow the hype.
@badassYJ69 I sold my 2001 CR250 around 14 years ago and regretted it for years, im from the UK and only paid £1150 for it at the time, ive just recently bought a 98 CR250 and it cost me £5500, it's mint but the prices here have boomed. Your looking at 10k+ for a good CR500 now.
@@mattress7005 yeah a good 500 is hard to find anymore. Most that I have found need rebuild.
2 stroke has better resale value, Easier to fix. Sound better. Reliable and still have a kick start unlike the ktm & husq. Much prefer the YZ
SO HAPPY. Yamaha is stepping back up..with another 250 two stroke . LONG LIVE TWO STROKES....!!!!! if we're not careful these other companies will try to take away gas powered machines and sell you THIER electric garbage...
Have we time traveled back to 1993? I hope so 😊
I'm still riding my 2007 YZ250, got it new in 2010. I don't want anything else.
Two strokes for life
Pat Foster, Donn Meada why just why are you so afraid of the 500cc two strokes Popularity? Pat and Donn check out TOMASIN RACING T500. Rick Johnston fell in love with it.
i have both yz250 and a yz450f and the 250 is still the most fun you can have on 2 wheels
If you ride in the 250 class and are not on a 250 2 Stroke, you're missing out on big wins! The 250 F is like a mini bike in comparison. The 2 stroke makes fast riders too!
If your a smaller to medium size rider under say 175lbs, and don't feel as comfortable on 450's yet, a 250cc 2 stroke is a great alternative to the slightly heavier and more expensive 4 stroke 250's. Like they said, be prepared to shift more and let the bike roll a little more into corners. With less engine braking they stay planted on the rear tire, which makes it that much quicker you need to be prepared to get back on the gas in a lower gear. I'm sure even vet riders coming off bigger 4 strokes find themselves scrambling to stay ahead of that cycle of movements when they first ride one. Gotta ride them Ronnie Mac style!
Faster lighter even if heavy 250 2 stroke is better than any 4 stroke dirtbike eve the 450. if you have mad skills and bals cr or kx 500 is the ultimate dirt beast nothing compares
I HAD A KX 500 2T FOR A WHILE AND IT WAS A HANDFUL ,BUT I WAS SELDOM PASSED ,GREAT BIKE IF YOU SURVIVED IT@@RT22-pb2pp
I prefer less engine braking as your corner speed into the corner should be higher so carry more corner speed through the corner as well.
They made brakes for a reason to do braking, 2 strokes are the only dirt bike I will own, have ridden modern 4 strokes give me 15yr old 2 stroke any day. Lighter faster easier to work on not one thing about 4 stroke is better than 2 stroke not one thing. Emissions killed 2 strokes as you need twice the size to run as fast. a good 125 2 stroke from 90s still can ytake a 250 4 stroke on a track in the proper hands. On road racing 500s from 90s faster laps than modern 4 stroke 1000. Problem is most guys today hate 2 stroke cause they have no idea how to ride bike with a power band in a small range. @@mackeymichael
@@RT22-pb2pp blah blah blah, I've riden and owned and worked on(rebuilt) every size and stroke of single cylinder dirt bike or enduro. Your painting with some bold colors and awfully broad strokes there, don't you think? You say a 125cc 15 year old 2stroke will blow any brand new 250cc 4stroke away with the right rider? AND any 15yr old 250cc 2stroke is far superior to a brand new state of the art 450cc 4stroke huh? Let me guess, you have a shed full of beat down 25 year old dirt bikes with half the parts broken or missing, that just happen to all be 2 stokes? I know, life's hard sometimes. Well, you keep kicking those tired temperamental plug fouling hoopties. I'm gonna push the electric start button, listen to my brand spanking knew, finely tuned, fuel injected and heavily modified YZ450F pur like a kitten! I'll see you later buddy! Have a nice day, I've gotta get going now.
Question. I’ve raced 4 strokes all my life, been out of the sport for about 10 years bought a new 450 and it’s just too much to hang onto. I’m worried about the 250 4 stroke not having enough power to lug my big butt around the track. I’m 215 without gear. But I’m thinking about a 250 2 stroke. Any help? Besides the typical, 2 strokes sound better? I’m not trying to be competitive anymore. Just a weekend warrior for fun.
Ktm 300 tpi
@@joellarsson9486 isn’t that a woods bike?
Can't wait to get mine and throw my leg back over a bike . My Ktm 105 blew up on me when I was 14 and I haven't been able to ride ever since . Like a piece of my soul missing
If it was Electric start and FI...
...true Retro though!
Yeah it’s super disappointing Yamaha hasn’t done that yet and they may never. Makes it hard (for me anyways) to consider the yz over the ktm/husky/gasgas
Enduro riding they are the bike. I have 4. Even my old Honda CR500.
250 two-strokes are easy to just jump on and ride. My 450 took a bundle of cash to get it where I wanted it. I love it now, but could have a YZ250 and a sweet e-bike for the same $$$.
we need electric start on yz 2 stroke. have kick start as option
thats all coz most people now go hard enduro
Why You SHOULD Consider a 250cc TWO-STROKE? because they kick ass! they had it right years ago. 4 strokes just don't have the scare factor
250 class should include all 250s, four stroke or two strokes.
Two smoke, ALL the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how we use the term "Modern" to describe a 19 year old bike with a 27 year old engine.
Just be glad it exists... What I would do for a "modern" brand new 2005 gmc 2500 with a duramax.....
@@motofunk1 I agree 100%. I wish suzuki would follow suit and produce the 08 rm250.
Yeah those 06-08 RM’s are really good.
@@keelangerken5154 I have a brand new never ridden 08 RM250 in my garage. I purchased it new in 08 and put it in storage.
I have an 08 RM 250. Love it!!! Waiting on my 24 YZ 250. No the RM is not for sale. Lol
When the zombies come and your battery is dead……..
You’re going to want a bike you can kickstart.
How old is the Gentleman on the left???🤔🤔🤔
Isn't it cool you have a choice? They both have their merits.
We were a yamaha family bit after the contingency program this past year I think we're going with a new brand they don't call you back or answer emails. It's crazy they want your business but can get no help.
the 250 2 stroke is the best bike for trails as well.
Theyre cheap and can be repaired by the average rider with basic tools... Unless your an A class rider or a pro i dont see the the positives of buying a modern 450.
Torque Torque Torque…ease of riding. Super reliable. Most modern 4T 450s will go 200 hours. Much easier to ride than a 2T and I grew up racing 2T. Time marches on
@@stevesmith756Austrian counterbalanced modern 2Ts don't have the old school "hit" feel. They're also fuel injected, with the button. The new 300 TBI in particular has gobs of instant low torque. These 2Ts are better for more people than almost any 4T when taking into consideration initial price, maintenance, all of it. Easier to work on too, even with the added complexities of EFI and E start.
@stevesmith756 I agree. Sold my 23 yz 250 and snagged a 23 yz 450. Yes bit lazy of a ride compared to the 2 smoker but I'm super cool with that. These modern days 450s are to good. Power every were and instant. Plus like ya mentioned not hanging off it the maintenance Is minimal. I really enjoy riding the 450.
Ring ding ding ding 💨 💨
More safe more fun less money why wouldn’t you buy a 2 stroke
I have the 1998 yz250 I love the pink and purple!!
I'm 74 years old and the 2 stroke is all I will ride off road. I'll ride a 4 stroke out on the street.
The modern 4stroke is a throw away bike ! Because when the engine grenades itself, you need to finance the replacement engine. Moreover, why are the rebuild and maintenance schedules so short ? My chi-com weed trimmer runs balls out three hours every week for multiple months every year for YEARS and never fails ? Are these bikes that delicate ? I mean, cannot these manufacturers build a bike engine that revs like a weed trimmer and actually lasts ?
Two strokes kick a___ ! Don't be fooled by anything else.
Scrub daddy throws down!
Na 4 tempos vc anda .no 2 tempos vc ama .....
A bad 2 stroke better than a great 4 stroke
Because 4 strokes are over priced, over engineered junk and two strokes are simply way more fun to ride and takes more talent to ride competitively!!!
Why you should buy a 2 stroke: it go brrrrrr
Need I say more? Oh it also go rindididingdingdidingdingdingdiding. And I felt that.
But for real, easy to maintain. Lightweight. Stupid powerful. Cheap to rebuild. If you can ride a 2 stroke well, you can ride anything.
🌹
Two strokes save a ton of money just on work alone