Will 33" TIRES Fit on a STOCK TJ WRANGLER? | Budget Crawler Ep. 4
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- Опубліковано 13 лис 2018
- Age old question? Well at least a 22 year old question, since the first TJ rolled off the assembly line in 1996. Follow along today as we put this question to rest on our fully stock Jeep.
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I am so damn glad we don’t have to deal with corrosion here in the south. That is ridiculous.
And this is one of the most rust free jeeps I've seen in a long time, it's terrible up here!
Watching enough car shows and the lack of rust down south and out west pisses me off because of the uphill battle we deal with but makes me happy when I think that there are still plenty of rush free pre-2000 vehicles still left
Yeah that's crazy, my 40 year old CJ has less rust than that TJ.
Living in Saskatchewan, Canada, I sand, prime, and paint the undercarriage of my aging TJ every year since I purchased her in 1996. It is a labour of love over the decades I have shared my life with her. I love her too much to allow rust to invade her beautiful body. Dents, scratches, faded areas are allowed and all have a story behind them. But rust is not allowed. It would be a betrayal to my beloved to allow rust to plague her without putting up a valiant fight.
I love you dear, "Windi," from 1996 to present. May we spend many, many, more years together.
damn fellow saskatonian
As a XJ owner, I know first hand how you can fit any size tire on any size lift if you own a sazaw.
Hahaha this is true...went down that road with the last xj I owned
Haha, I feel that. Im too scared to take a sawzaw to my baby though, she already looks rough, but I cant do it.
40s fit no cutting required! They'll make their own room...
@@BigfootTJ jajajajjaa
TF is a "sawzaw"?
Do you mean a reciprocating saw, similar to the one invented by Milwaukee called Sawzall?
Amazing how much of a difference it looks with bigger tires.
Really makes the look of the Jeep IMO
Love the AT2s. I run 32s on my stock 98 TJ Sahara, but it's great to see on 33s. Looks great!
Good to hear! This is my first go with them, but the tread pattern looks similar to BFG All Terrains and I've had good experiences with those
You got a helluva good deal on those wheels and tires!! I love a good find like that.
Gotta love craigslist
Awesome video series. On my 2006 LJ the lock stops are bolts with lock nuts for each side so that you can fine tune lock point to prevent rubbing.
They are on the earlier TJs too, but I never bothered to adjust them because I had an axle swap planned, so stay tuned for that!
Going through and watching these videos makes me excited to get started on mine!
No better project vehicle out there, IMO
I got a 97 Sahara , inline 6 5 spd ..got 33s an 3 unch lift an its great ..but on hwy wont go over 110kms ... 369,000 kms an tank is goin strong still
Really made the jeep look better!!!! If your gonna do a lift I wanna be sure to catch that one! Love the videos!
Hoping I can keep the stock springs, but If I lift it there will definitely be a video! Thanks for following along!
Looks so much better with the new wheels and tires
I agree. It's amazing how much a set of tires and wheels can change the look of a vehicle.
Halfway thru vid so far. Looks BADASS
Agreed!
I watched this video a few months ago while searching for TJ builds and this one popped up. My thoughts were "poor newb trying to stuff 33s on a stock TJ, well you got to start somewhere" lol. A few days ago I stumble across your high clearance cross member video and now after much binge-watching most of your videos I now see you are far from a newb. 👍 Looking forward to Ep.12."
LOL thanks. I'm certainly a newb compared to many guys out there but have been messing around with these TJs for years and have learned a thing or two along the way. Some high clearance front fenders should take care of articulation up front, but I'll more than likely be installing a small suspension lift to keep from hacking into the rear wheel wells.
Factory 2003 TJ
Came with 29's
I was able to fit 31's 10.5 with slight rub only on tight turns.
I then added a cheap 2" budget boost and had zero problems.
Sounds like a good setup!
Nice to see a true budget TJ build. My 1998 TJ Sport with 4.0 and auto trans is pretty much bone stock except for 30" tires and alloy wheels. I do want to do a lift and 33" tires next when money allows. I'm lucky I guess my California Jeep is 100% rust free.
Yes, you're VERY lucky. I've considered flying out to California to find a rust free Jeep to bring back to the east coast and more than likely will at some point. Rusty cars are the bane of my existence
I'm in MN and found an 02 that was just brought up from Az, rust free with 97k.....i put a 2 1/2" suspension and 1 1/4" body lift with 33x12.50x15....it's got the right look for my tastes.
This a really cool good updates and videos …. I can’t believe i just discovered this
Thanks for watching!
Coming from Australia I can’t believe how rusty cars are in your part of the world and you say that’s a good one 😳😂
Great work mate really enjoying the series.
Cheers Pat
Sad but true! Thanks for watching!
I've NEVER seen or heard of Wheels rusting to the hub before! That is crazy! Wow!!
Unfortunately VERY common around where I live. Gotta love road salt...
@@dironaa hahahahahahaha worse in Canada hahahahahahaha
Looks good
Thanks man!
‘98 TJ stock “Ravine” aluminum wheels with Michelin 31x10.5x15 still rubbed on full turn.
Put washers on under the steering stops. It will stop the rub at full turn. When you get spacers or rims with a better offset, you simply take off the washers and reinstall the steering stops.
Good video
Thanks!
I purchased a TJ 4 inch Sport lift for my Wrangler. It only cost £450. It was not too hard to install. However, it makes my 33 inch tyres look rather small.
That's my biggest concern with installing bigger springs at this point, I may be forced to get 35s with a bigger lift haha
Yup, mine too, good year wrangler dura tracks, 33x12.5xr15 , I'm getting 31.5" on my tape measure.
False advertising..
Sledge hammer & wheel. Been there at least a dozen times, that is one reason I make sure I take my wheels off at least once a year even if I have no reason to and give a small inspection.
The previous owner of this Jeep clearly didn't get the memo LOL
Would anti-seize help? I’m from the South (Florida) and only have dealt with it on “Beach Jeeps” and that’s not that common because most guys hose off their vehicles after a day at the beach.
Yes it does. Even red n tacky if that's all you've got.
Btw, slamming the sidewalls with a sledge like that is a great way to put a bubble in your sidewalk. Better to use a beater stick, like a piece of "two by" lumber.
@d b ty for that random tidbit of information. Will definitely be using it in my lifetime lol
I am laughing my butt off
I got 32 with a lift kit when I bought it so seeing those stock tires 😂 I can’t
Think the tire on my wheelbarrow is bigger than those stock tires LOL
Do you think they'd rub if they were 10.5 wide?
I bought 05 wrangler tj I put 33x12.50's on 15x8 rims with 3.75 backspace and no issues wut so ever. Pro comp rims and tires and not long ago did lift and just got rear bumper with tire carrier
Sounds like a good setup!
Lift it up on jack stands and hit the rim on the inside with a dead blow hammer. Works every time. I live in western ny
Good tip, I may need to invest in a much heavier dead blow than I currently own... These were hands down the worst stuck wheels I've encountered, who knows how many years it's been since they were off last.
I live in Wisconsin, and seriously there are times when a sledgehammer won't do it. This has only been in recent years since they started salting the piss out of the roads.
I put a set of 35” on my LJ the other day just to test fit. Only interference was with the sway bar when turning too far. Still pulled them back off until I can get a lift.
Would absolutely have to re-gear. Driving 50km p/hr, the speedo shows 41.
Good to know. If it feels like you have enough power, you may be able to swap the speedometer gear in the transfer case to correct the speedometer instead of regearing
Dirona power didn’t seen an issue. But I was only driving to work and back
What would a lift do to stop sway bar interference? I just put some gladiator mojave 33's on my 05 lj...only interference is sway bar with 1.25 adapters...gonna go with 2" as soon as they get here. I will do a lift around spring time.
@@MikeysGTO with a 3.5 inch lift, my sway bar is out of the way and I don’t make contact any more.
Now, with the 35/12.5R15, I rub the lower front link when turning sharp
Hey, just subbed and am following your project jeep, super cool. I have a B channel where I’ll eventually be doing some jeep videos. I have a 98 TJ with a 2” teraflex puck lift I just installed after rubbing on the 31s recently off-road. 6 cylinder with the AX-15 transmission. Cool project you got going here! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks! Sounds like you've got a good base vehicle to start with...that 6 cyl makes a world of difference over the 4.
my 86 xj is stock height and clears 36's. i did modify the body a little bit. right now it's on 38's for test fitting.
Wow! I'd say 'a little bit' is a little but of an understatement! Had trouble clearing 31s at stock height on my last XJ.
Sasquatch got any pics? You know the internet saying....pics or it never happened. Lol
I had 33s on my TJ with a 3.5” lift. I just upgraded to 35s on it and man, it looks way more aggressive and it improved the ride quality a lot with more rubber.
Don't temp me to go bigger! LOL
Were they on Stock rims and did you need any spacers?
@@tigeroswald777 My tires are on aftermarket rims and I do have 2” spacers, but the spacers are not necessary in my opinion. I just like the way it looks with the wide stance.
It looks good. I think a minimal 2" lift would be perfect for off road use.
I might have to go that route, we will see
@@dironaa buy the Rubicon express 1.75 spring risers and newer or new one springs will lift jeep 2inchs .And level the front with the back
Ohio-an here..... I usually PB Blast the hubs for like an hour before trying to get the wheel off. Then use the sledge hammer with a block of wood.
I’ve had mixed results with pb blaster so I tend to favor brute force, not that it’s the right thing (or even the smart thing) to do lol
Thank youuuuuuuuuuu
Thanks for watching!
used JK wheels are much cheaper than TJ 33". I bought 33" on stock JK wheels for $200 and spent $80 on adapter spacers. Works great and looks great.
Good deal! Will certainly keep an eye out for those in the future
Scott, if you are out there i’m looking to do this same thing to my tj i found some 33’s for a good deal off a JK and want to know if adding wheel spacers make a difference, good or bad. Let me know! Any info is appreciated!
I just put 33” bfg ko2’s on my 2005 tj sport they are on +12 offset 18” rims and they run just a little bit
Cant beat the look of a good set of ko2s!
You should have adjustable steering stops. YJs, XJs, ZJs, and WJs have them.
Yes sir, the TJ has them as well
I thank God that I live in NC after seeing that much rust. I’m sorry for ya mate.
Without a doubt it’s the worst part about living up north
You should really wire brush that frame and por51 the piss out of it. Inside and out. Eastwood makes a nice internal frame coating. Try to preserve it. I’m in nj, I know the rust bug and always try to stay ahead of it
Absolutely man, I'm going to do my best keep this Jeep off the road during salt season. Hoping to get the frame painted over the winter. I have a half gallon of Eastwood Chassis Black left over from a previous project and plan on using it up on this Jeep. I've used the internal frame coating before and it's very cool stuff, but the previous owner already had oil sprayed inside the frame so I'll be using Fluid Film on the inside of the frame rather that trying to degrease the whole thing
Dirona To be honest I’ve never heard of the oil thing before. Things like that cross my mind but I feel it would wash off
@@dironaa I Found POR15 to be a little finicky. Its a formula thats been around forever but better stuff has come out. I'm a fan of SEM rust reformer. Its really solid, there is no special prep solution, and its a top coat as well, no need to paint it.
Yeah, that's one big downside to por15...the lack of uv protection. Thanks for the heads up on the SEM rust reformer, I've had good experience with their products in the past
Love your Channel ima new subscriber!! Yee yee
Thanks! Plenty more to come
It doesn't have a whole lot of clearance but you could actually run some light off road trails the way you have it sitting right now. A 2 inch lift would make a huge difference for off road but it looks fine.
I added a 1.25" body lift and trimmed the fender flares in some later episodes and the now fit perfectly!
I came to watch this video because I own a stock YJ, I found a sweet pair of 33s and I've bought a brand new OEM leaf kit with boom shackles. Combined they're estimated to give my jeep between 1' to 1.5' inches of lift. I'm also going to use a set of flat fenders or trim some cheap OEM ones. I'm excited to see the end result.
Sweet ! i just got my first 2003 tj !had to put new window hinges on they don't match up would you have an opinion on this ! i'am thinking on heating up door loops and pushing door into place !! what would you do !!
The door hinges are adjustable by loosening the torx bolts that hold them to the door. Should be some info over on jeepforum.com on how to do it if you do a quick search over there.
Looks good to me, good luck on your re-gear you'll need it.
Will be the first time I've set up gears so it's going to long process, but have been wanting to learn how for a while and am stoked to finally have the opportunity to learn
@@dironaa It seems straight forward to do your own gears. But I learned the hard way that if you do not shim the gears right and space then correctly, you will strip the gears out. They will work for a couple of months even if you do not shim them. But they will strip out. I winded up paying for my gears twice because I wrecked my new gears a couple of months after I installed them. The second time, I let the 4x4 shop install them and they have not failed. They told me precise spacing a d shimming is needed to do it right. Measuring with micrometers is common when installing new gears. Well, I did not have a micrometer nor did I space and align the gears right. It is obvious because they got wrecked in two months after my install.
Thanks for the input. My biggest concern is being able to put enough load on the gears to properly check the pattern since I'll be regearing with the axles out of the rig. Maybe I'll do one at a time and make sure the gears don't eat themselves before doing the second one haha
@@dironaa I always do it on a bench. You won't have trouble.
Put some wheel spacers on your studs and it will look even better, but most importantly no rub.
May have to!
I had horrible problems taking for rims onto a jeep GC. Very scary lug nuts would loosen themselves.
Yikes! I've had a wheel start to come loose before...not a good experience.
Thanks for the video, I want 33s on my TJ, it has a 2inch lift with 31s that measure to 29.5” right now. Didn’t know if my the lift would be big enough but this helps a ton. Just hoping it doesn’t affect my MPG, power, or gearing too much. (Have a 4.0)
Nice. I think 2" would be a good height for on road use, may still be a little tight for off road use, depending on what type of terrain and how your bump stops are set. I'm planning for 3" total between suspension and body lift but I like to play on the rocks, which requires a lot more flex. Thanks for watching!
I do off-road quite a bit, worried about flex. Going to get flat front fenders, take off the rear and cut it. Might add a 1” hockey puck lift
Cool. Sounds like a good plan. Had flat fenders up front on my last TJ and it made a huge difference. On a related note, I'd stay clear of the Barricade fenders from Extreme Terrain...went through several sets before getting a set that was properly welded and customer service at extreme terrain is terrible. If I put new fenders on this project Jeep I'll definitely be looking for a set made in America.
2inch with stock fenders and 33 will hit.... offroad is terrible no matter how slow you go, you will eat the fender and the tire. Driving around town is fine until you hit a bump then you hear the fenders hit.
I am running a 2 inch lift with 33s on my tj right now and it does rub off road but only in the rear because I put bigger bump stops on the front. I wish I would have just done a 3 inch lift but what I got is working for now
Yeah you might want some spacers and a re-gear
Trimmed the fender flares in a later video and the stock 4.10 gears have actually been quite manageable so far
It looks way better with those tires vs the smaller stock tires . I have 30” tires on my 97 2.5 4 cyl tj and after seeing your video I may get 33” tires but how long can we ride with the 33s if u don’t re-gear it? Will it hurt anything eventually? My 97 tj is my only vehicle/daily driver so I don’t plan on doing much to mine. U definitely got a deal on them.
It depends what type of driving you do. If you spend much time on the highway or long steep hills I’d avoid running the stock gears with 33s, but if you’re mostly doing city driving I think you’d be fine. The only thing bigger tires could hurt in your drivetrain is your clutch if you ride it any longer (but you may not need to) to get started from a stop uphill or in stop and go traffic. You may also notice paint missing where the tires rub against your control arms at full lock. Keep in mind that I’ve never owned a powerful car so my opinion on the power of a jeep with stick gears and 33s may be slightly skewed…
What offset is on those rims? More - offset would bring it away from inner components and with flat fenders it should be fine, just wondering for my jeep build
Not sure off hand but I'll try to remember to measure next time the wheels are off.
I put 33x12.50's on 15x8 rims with 3.75 backspace on 05 tj and had no rubbing what so ever. Lock to lock was fine and i didn't have to worry about regearing she actually burns through 1st and chirps the hell outa 2nd gear
What's the backspacing on those soft 8s? 3.75 or 4.00?
Not sure. If I remember I'll try to measure next time I have them off (but more than likely I'll forget)
awesome
Thanks
Not moving to the north east is some very sound advice
Sad but true
I put 2 inch spacers on the front my Jeep TJ to get rid of the factory rake. Can you tell me the maximum tire size that I can put on without re-gearing it?
There are a lot of variables that play into an answer like that (which engine you have, which transmission you have, what gears you currently have, what type of terrian you normally drive, etc.) for an informed answer I'd head over to jeepforum.com or wranglertjforum.com and see if you can find any info there.
i fit 35’s on mine you get oem fenders on the front they don’t rub if you have the oem wheel well as well i got metal cloak fenders which are great for the record on the back you might get some rubbing on the plastic mostly on off-road cases eventually i got a 2 inch lift 1 inch spacers and sye kit which made everything much nicer aesthetically and a way nicer ride but now i’m a 16 year old in debt so give and take😂
I've really been fighting the urge to buy the metalcloaks lately...
I'm a new subscriber I'm going with 33's on my stock 94 jeep wrangler s yj
Good choice!
future reference if you kick the top of the tire in when they are stuck like that itll pop right off
I kicked it every way possible. Those things were STUCK!
Hi, i have 33" on my TJ, lifted 4" so its not the same but i wonder what if yours pass the MOT in your country when its rubbing on some parts? My problem in my country is that the footprint can not go outside the fender. Its ok if the rubber is outside but not the thing thats hit the road if you know what i mean. I think the new tires did it all on your TJ!!!
My country is the same, so when it’s time for the yearly vehicle inspection most people reinstall the small stock tires for the day in order to pass inspection
You should have snagged that 8.8 out of the explorer too
8.8 with a c-clip eliminator is a decent option, but I have an even better axle than the 8.8 that will be making its way under the Jeep before the end of winter!
@@dironaa I just started running Toyota axles. With RCV axle shafts. They are so different it is a trip.
not doing any heavy wheeling any time soon. just wanna get the 33s on my jeep but also rocking 15x10 wheels... safe to drive on a stock d35? im finding yes and no answers but would rather have a definite answer before digging deep in to the pocket.
Unfortunately you'll never find a definite answer. In my experience no two Dana 35s are totally equal. I obliterated a d35 carrier driving up a small paved incline at about 10 mph on 31s a while back (the axle had about 230k miles on it at that point and some very "intensely" driven miles toward the end), but I had a friend who wheeled HARD on 35s with a d35 and never had much of an issue. If I were in your shoes I'd probably go for the 33s and keep a close eye on Craigslist for a bolt in d44 out of another Jeep (or even a spare d35 to have on hand). The going rate for a TJ d44 is somewhere around $500-$600 where I live but in most other parts of the country they seem to be closer to the $1000 mark. You'll see a lot of chat about a Ford 8.8 swap, but by the time you buy all the brackets, brake hardware, c clip eliminators, etc. and spend time installing/setting up everything you're better off finding a bolt-in-ready d44, IMO. So in summary a d35 running 33s may or may not be a ticking time bomb and you may have to find out the hard way LOL.
Consider purchasing a used Dana 44 rear axle and 4.56 gears to stuff in your front axle and new rear axle. Let the 4x4 shop install the gears in the axles. The install requires aligning spacers and shims very precisely. The 4x4 shop has the micrometers and measuring devices to get the gears put in right the first time. You can strip the new gears if you do not space the new gears right. I would say, do everything to your Wrangler yourself with one exception. Do not install your own spider gears in your differnctials. If you can find the front and rear axles out of a wrecked Rubicon, it will cost more but that would be ideal.
I'll give a simple, definite answer because these are machines with spec.'s, not ethereal mysteries.
Yes, it is safe to drive a d35 (even a stock one) with 33's.
All stock d35's manufactured for the tj ARE in fact the same when they leave the factory (with the exception of gear ratios).
Where the major differences occur are in use and maintenance, which are driver specific.
It's always a good habit to get as good an idea as possible of what use and maintenance any component (especially integral drivetrain) has seen prior to putting your faith in it on any level.
That being said, there are numerous upgrades that can/should be done to a d35 that's going to see aggressive use, as well as limits to those upgrades.
Are there other axles that can be built in heavier duty configurations than a built d35? Absolutely.
Is a d35 absolutely going to break when you leave the pavement? Absolutely not.
It's important to keep in mind that there's a lot of good Jeep info on youtube, but a lot of pure bullshit and people just repeating things they've heard without any foundational knowledge; and nothing to tell the inexperienced which is which.
I'm doing no lift 33s with 1.50 wheel spacers and Hi line fenders
Nice. Have been contemplating hilines but haven't pulled the trigger yet
Gettin any rub out of that with bumps and turning or does it clear everything fine?
Never Seize is your friend up North.
Think I go through enough of it to singlehandedly keep permatex in business.
Jigsaw to make flat fenders ... free ... 2 washers each on turn stops will prevent rubbing in front from turning
Other plans for flat fenders currently in the works!
Grab a pair of wj lower control arms from junkyard.
Has extra clearance and is stronger.
Thanks for the tip! Surprised I haven't heard of that before. Will add it to the to-do list!
No problem. I've built my Cherokee completely from other vehicle parts from the junkyard.
Volvo d30 lsd, v8 zj tie rod, 90s tbird coils and strut tops, 90s f150 rear swaybar links, 8.8. All should work great for ya. And sometimes you can find nice aftermarket parts.
Anybody know if f-150 front struts fit the tj for half a poor man's 3" lift?
Guess not lol
I need to re-gear with 35" and a 4.0L 4" lift. Can't really get in 5th gear.
Anybody can do just about anything to a Wrangler TJ from repairs to upgrades with one exception. Do not try to install your own gears in your differentials. It will seem straight forward and will work for awhile after you install them. But there are some very tight tolerances using shims and spacers to install your gears right. If the shims and spacers are not correctly installed, you will strip the spider gears. It is a horrible pain. Trust me when I say, let the 4x4 shop change your spider gears in your differentials. I made a rather expensive mistake thinking I could do it without micrometers, and alignment tools. As for the rest of the maintence, repairs, and upgrading to your TJ, never let anybody tell you it can not be done by you. Enjoy your Wrangler TJ. It is the last, "T"raditional "J" eep
@@indridcold8433 Too late I've already installed a lunchbox Aussie locker in the dana 30 front. I bought the magnetic micromoner. Just found a d44 I'm picking up tomorrow for the rear. I did have someone do my slip yoke in the transfer case though. We'll see how it goes on the D44 out of the vehicle with installing a ring and pinion. If I can't get a good ring pattern I know when to give up.
Is there much difference with a 32x11.50 and a 33x12.50
32 is smaller and will be less likely to rub things than a 33
Whats your wheel size? I see they are 15” in diameter but do you know the offset and backspacing?
I just sold these wheels/tires in favor of moving to 35s a few weeks ago, so unfortunately I check
Can you ride this tires in winter with heavy snow and ice?
Yes. They won’t handle as well as snow tires but they will do ok
I run smaller than stock bfg tko with a superchip.
Must feel like driving a sports car on the highway! LOL
+Dirona I put the smaller tires on my 07 jk because it has a minivan engine and trans put in front of truck transfer case and axles.
I have 32 x 11.50 on my stock 2003 TJ. I haven't had any issues.
Cool!
Thanks for this. just to confirm you have 15" by 7" rims? i am looking for the same but have zero lift or spacers etc so if you can confirm that would give me a lot more confidence to order. tx!
@@dratz750 I can't honestly tell you the size of the rims right now since my Jeep is in Florida and I'm in western NY right now. I won't be back down there till Nov.
You forgot to yell come on dangit while swinging the sledge...
Of course, how did I forget that??
What about wheel spacers? Have you thought about those?
I have, but I don’t want the tires sticking out of the fenders any more than they already do. Thanks for the suggestion!
Dirona Oh OK
why not just add a 1" wheel spacer for the turning clearance?
Good thought, but a wheel spacer would make the tire poke out further from the fender, which would increase the chances of getting a ticket where I live. This could be remedied by installing larger fender flares, but that’s not the direction I want to go with this jeep.
First mistake is a Generals and I run 33x9.5 x 16. It’s also apparent you never rotate.
But the tires rotate themselves every time I take the jeep for a drive..
But on a serious note the tires/wheels were used off of Craigslist and I got them uber cheap. I also just bought the Jeep a couple hundred miles ago so I'll defer the lack of rotation blame to the previous owner LOL. Would very much prefer to have the 9.5 wides like you...any idea what you're running for backspacing and do the tires rub at full lock?
Careful, don't wanna build a rice crispy...they go snap crackle pop peace
LOL necessary drivetrain upgrades will be coming in short order
488's will fix your power issue, did mine.
I installed them and they sure did!
Yeah, tire sizes from the factory are a marketing joke. I used to run 31" tires (yup, only 29.5", even less when aired to proper inflation) with a 2" lift. I had no problems with this setup, but eventually made the switch from 15" rims to 16" rims because I added rear disc brakes.
When I did that, I got a set of 255-85-r16's on Liberty KJ rims, which are actually 32.25" (33" tires according to marketing) and relatively narrow. I used 1 1/4" wheel spacers to keep them from rubbing at full tilt, with just a little tread sticking out. Most people don't like wheel spacers, but they have worked for me for the last four years.
Kind of like how a half gallon of ice cream is now only 1.5 quarts LOL. I was hoping to end up with 16s or 17s for easier balancing and less rotating mass for the 4cyl engine to push, but when you buy used you get what ya get. I've avoided using wheel spacers on my rigs to date because of hearing horror stories of them failing, but I suppose going with a name brand like Spidertrax should minimize that risk and I may end up going that route. Good to hear a positive story on them, thanks for the input!
How wide are those tires ?
12.5"
I'm doing a budget crawler, mine was 3200$, 140k Sahara, 4.0, 5spd, hard top, 12k winch gonna make her suuuhhweeet
Cool! I'm a big fan of the Sahara interiors.
if you encounter any sort of of sideways action you are going to rip of your fender flairs
Check out my newest video!
You mentioned rust in your part of the U.S. and I wondered where are you? Then you said "wicked" and I knew. New England.
Nice little DIY except you said you already had 31's. Why spend $350 on tires when you already had decent trail tires and then there is the lack of a spare? Best of luck though! Looks like the transformation will be enjoyable to watch. Thank you for sharing.
LOL nailed it. I have a second Jeep that the 31s are on, so I bought the 33s specifically for this project. Update on a spare tire will be coming soon, thanks for following!
Oh buddy, considering the state.
You'll be saying goodbye to that D35 pretty soon.
Skinny foot
Already picked up an upgraded axle, just need to find the time to regear and install. On a side note, I do have a friend who managed to wheel with 35s on a d35 without breaking it for a few years before swapping in an 8.8, I wouldn't expect to be so lucky though haha
@@dironaa tell him to buy a lottery ticket
It depends on your gears. If you have 3.07 like me, they seem to hold up
Are you going to clean up the rust and undercoat it?
Yes sir, will be needle scaling/wire wheeling the frame and using some Eastwood products to paint it
I sand, prime, and paint, my aging TJ's undercarriage yearly. It is a labour of love. However, I have been thinking of using Flexseal on the next undercarriage service. However, I have been doing the undercarriage service every year since 1996. It may seem strange to stop doing my yearly routine. This is the only reason I am hesitant.
Perfect tire size on a stock Wrangler is 235/75R15
The more time that goes by, the better a stock Wrangler looks!
what upper door halves are those
OEM Jeep frames with Bestop skins
@@dironaa thankyou wish I had seen thoes before i bought the besttop full replacement ones i like the bigger windows
I need those hard upper doors for my tj. Anyone know where to find them?
They're made by Bull Dawg Manufacturing. Not cheap if you buy brand new but good deals on used ones pop up on Craigslist every once in a while if you keep an eye out
I'm liking those hard uppers also. A used set of full steel TJ doors goes for around $1000 here. Ridiculous.
You will find the Bestop upper door glass sliders at 4wheelparts.com. Mine have never gave me problems. You can buy soft top fabric covered upper door sliders or completely hard upper door sliders. The hard upper door sliders will be more expensive than the fabric covered upper door sliders. Good luck.
Do u have a in line 4 or a straight
6
4 cyl and proud of it LOL
@@dironaa I got a 4 in my tj and I was wondering if it can push my 32"tires I got off kijiji
I'd say yes, depending on your driving style and how much you drive on the highway. If you do a lot of highway driving, a regear to 4.88 may serve you well
@@dironaa thanks
Two inch wheel spacers will help
I have a love hate relationship with wheel spacers...but very true, I may go that route if I can find a set for the right price
Dirona the plain Jane wheel spacers are the ones that get the bad rap the hub centric ones are balanced and generally high quality
I had a 97 TJ and i ended up with 31 inch tires and 2 inch wheels spacers. Drove it on and off road no problem for 2 years before i sold it, it wasnt any crazy offroading.
The ride and handling increase tremendously with two inch wheel spacers. Make certain they are wheel centric and hub centric spacers or you will have lots of problems. When I upgraded to hub centric and wheel centric spacers, all the problems I had with the regular ones disappeared. Find hubcentric spacers in Amazon for very affordable.
33 is too large for stock. unless you are just going to drive street. largest tire I ever put on my jeep while it was stock was a 31...I couldn;t do much "crawling" even with that because of clearance. can't wait for the lift.
You should definetly get an undercoat on your Jeep its so rusty
LOL the underside of this Jeep would be considered mint condition where I live. Road salt destroys everything up here. But I do have plans to undercoat it soon!
@@dironaa oh..so it must be hard to take care of cars there and its a good thing you are planning an undercoat
How did it ride with 33s and stock gearing?
It looks like it did well. He is planning on doing a re gear so that will help with low end torque and pulloff.
Much better than expected. Has a little less power but I'm not usually in much of a hurry so I don't mind. I'll eventually end up regearing, but mostly so I don't burn up the clutch off road. If this was only a street Jeep I don't know that I'd even bother to regear. Should also mention that I don't do much highway driving, mostly around town commuting with it.
@@dironaa thanks for the reply! Also is your gas mileage bad? I plan on putting on 33 10.5 r15
I just drive around town with it but I consistently get 17+ mpg (with a properly calibrated speedometer), which is about what I got with stock tires. This mileage may also be partly attributed to the fact that I installed an electric fan.
Rust bucket
Sadly one of the most rust-free vehicles I've ever owned
Paint that frame before it’s to late
Already did in a later episode!
I feel like if they were 33x10s on stock it’ll be fine
Might need wheel spacers with stock wheels. I've had 31x10.5 on stock wheels rub the control arms at full lock.
Dirona ahhh I see. So half inch to an inch maybe, should help.
I’m 46 and am Old School, White OUT! LOL But I’m NOT a fan of White Wall our, just raised lettering.
I ride the fence on white letters in/out. Depends on the font/style of text on the tire!
No one is dealing with the obvious....isn't this a 4cyl? Do you have time to drive this???
It is a 4 cyl...I’m in a very small minority here but Ive owned quite a few and actually love these 4 cyl TJs. Lots of fun to bang through the gears with little worry of getting a speeding ticket lol.
@@dironaa agreed. I’ve owned both tj and yj 2.5 and 4.0 and it’s not this night and day difference ppl act like, matter of fact 2.5 tj manual will smoke 4.0 auto all day. 3.07 gear vs 4.11 in 4cyl. Gearing wins over 30 extra horsepower every single time.
Being cheap and cutting up your jeep with a sawsall or buying those flat cutout fenders or flares or not running flares at all, not only looks horrible but is crazy!! Buy a lift, that's what they are invented for!! Jeeps without flares is just stupid!
The great thing about modding a jeep is that there are so many options to reach a particular goal. If each build was identical, the world of jeeps would be much less entertaining
Gotta love Washington state , I lived up there in that wet ass place for almost 4 years in the early 90’s . While I was in the Navy , very beautiful country , but very shitty weather !! Morton salt company must love the fuck outta that part of the U.S. !!!
Salt companies make $, auto manufacturers make $, and the consumer pays for it all. It's a conspiracy man lol.
33's with a Dana 35?
Yes sir, but that'll be changing soon!
Never get a ticket being running 10% below spend
That’s one way to do it!
33x9.5s or 10.5s on 15x7s fit stock TJs even better.
Would’ve preferred skinny tires like that but the price was right on the 12.5’s!
Rust in the NE is RUST! It sucks!
Road salt is the bane of my existence!