Toyota Transmission P0977 Case Study - Part 2 THE FIX!
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2017
- After diagnosing a P0977 transmission code on this 2009 Toyota Corolla in Part 1, let's get it fixed up and shipped out the door!
Here's Part 1 in case you missed it:
• Toyota Transmission P0...
Enjoy!
Ivan - Авто та транспорт
I learned that one a long time ago plug gets stuck in funnel and waterfall ensues! Good on you for keeping the camera rolling we all make mistakes this is real shop life!
FordTechMakuloco yes, shit happens. I'm glad he kept the footage as well. Shows the dirty side of auto repair
wouldn't have happened if the camera wasn't in the way lol ;)
motoYam82 good 1
Excellent diagnosis. Good video. You are an excellent technician, do not give away your work. You even stated the hose connection disintegrated over time, you did not brake it, you saved the owner from another future. failure. use the correct explanation and charge for this needed repair. You didn't need this extra work. keep going don't give these things away, because you think they might think you caused the problem. Keep going and alway's get payed.
Great repair & confirmation Ivan. Man that thing did not wanna leave your shop! Coolant pipe and the wiper! The blocked funnel cracked me up.. well done for leaving the footage in cause that crap happens to all of us, professional or DIY, and well done for not swearing!
That opening sequence was priceless. We've all been there. Nice case study Ivan. Thanks!
Come on little guy :) Eric O is making a huge impact on gearhead community. So are you. I love this stuff
Steve Allen
Torqued to factory specs . Give 'er the beans !
I dunno what in the thunder you people are talking about. ;) 1-2 BBQ!
glad you showed the mess. We all do such things but only the more mature will show it.
I'm happy to see you use the Autel. I finally got one a while back (really cheap--$225) and then all my YT heros switched to the OTC. Go figure. I've really liked the Autel so far, though, and the price was definitely right.
Sorry, Ivan but I laughed pretty hard when that bolt fell into the funnel and noticed the funnel filling up quick! I'm so glad to see someone else make messes no matter how well they plan. Glad it's not just me!
You've got to be the best Diag Tech and confirmed repair Tech on the planet
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that drain plug lol had me crackin.
The key was wearing latex gloves and plugging the hole quickly! Tricks of the trade! lmao ;)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Seems the drain plug makes for a good funnel plug as well! When you were unscrewing it I actually said out loud "Don't drop it in the funnel.."...Oh well!
HAHA yeah it plugged that funnel really well xD
Ivan, good diagnosis. Your skills just keep growing in auto repair and video making. Keep up your work.
I'm glad you left that beginning on the video. Priceless. Great job as usual Ivan.
Soooooooo.. beautiful repair video, Ivan. Thanks so much for your uploads.
Before removing the pan drain plug, back the plug out about half way and use a piece of string to tie a noose around the plug. That way you can grab the plug and prevent it from falling into the funnel or oil pan.
you recovered quickly so don't fret...i will not be afraid of this code when my kids Corolla quits shifting into 3rd.
Drain plug gets a thumbs up! Thanks for not editing that out. We've all been there!!! lol
Good diagnostic finding the correct shift solenoid, but once you have the pan off that is the perfect time to drop and replace the trans filter. Also there are magnets in the bottom of the pan that could have easily been cleaned before slapping the pan back on.
Well done Ivan, you saved that customer a lot of money!!
Thanks Ivan, another happy customer.
Great video Ivan, now I see even professionals have these oil spills...lol, one time I tried to use a plastic storage bag around the Toyota (Tundra) Oil Filter as I was removing to avoid oil spillage. Sure enough the storage bag fell off the oil filter canister and created a mess on the garage floor. Sometimes you just can't win. Thanks again !!.
great educative video. i really like the way you do your diagnosis and am actually learning alot from you.
Please keep up the good work
You know its a double edged sword with Toyota and Honda parts. They're good, but expensive. I tend to fix the ones i maintain with junkyard parts where its practical. They still have more life than the car in most cases.
A lot of Toyota vehicles take that long life pink fluid in the Euro market now. You buy it pre diluted. Good stuff though.
Nice fix. All set for another 100,000 miles.
I love that you show it as it is, the good and the bad,
As always, great video! Totally agree w/ you on OEM parts. There's a dealership in my area that has an on-line presence (and a will-call) option. I looked up their price on the same solenoid and it was $152.
I love the online catalogs and cheaper prices online. Ivan should be getting a better rate if he sets up a wholesale account though.
Once again, well done Ivan
I've done that repair myself ! Same thing with a tranny shop wanting $2700 for a used trans swap! Smh but working for Honda for years made me spoiled with external trans pressure switches for sure :) Greta video man
your video along with schrodingers today....it's been a good day so far. Got my fix. good job
Schro has a new vid out? I'm there! :)
I've tried the funnel under the drain plug thing a couple times and "failed" each time. ( slow learner) . Now I just let it drain into a pan and then pour the contents into a jug to measure how much. Way cleaner however the swear jar is just a bit emptier. Probably would have made up that short fall breaking that plastic POS nipple though.
I was betting that you would have got that solenoid "NEARLY" all the way out and found you had to drop the valve body.
SCORE ! WIN !
Thanks for the video.
I've done that before. Bumped over a 5 gallon bucket of hydraulic fluid, what a mess, LOL. It happens. Good diagnosis and fix.
Most shops I know wouldn't have ate the cost wish all shops was as honest as yours
I have a 1996 Cherokee with the AW4, which is essentially a Toyota transmission. I recently had to replace all 3 shift solenoids it had because they all tested out of spec after some funky highway shifting. Wasn't as easy to drop the pan cause the exhaust runs over 1/4 of the bolts, but it got done and it shifts beautifully now :)
Awesome!
Hi Ivan great fix and you are very professional cheers ; the drain plug issue and old friend of mine ,had the same problem but he was draining a diesel tank went down his arms down his body and filled his boots laugh I nearly got a round of drinks in lol
Thanks again
Good video. Good diagnosis. Why didnt you clean the pan or change the filter? Saved the customer thousands im sure.
Nice diagnosis & repair Ivan. Quick get it out of your garage before something else goes wrong!
Looks like this 'yota had a long and hard history. Hey at least it's not a BMW and actually left the shop FIXED haha
I wonder when the last time the coolant was changed in that puppy. I wonder if it's old and that could be why the plastic nipple broke + eaten up radiator cap. Good work as always!
Great video, once again! Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge. I enjoy the way you and Eric O. from SMA help each other out.
I admire your tenacity figuring out the root cause of the symptoms/problems. Especially on cars with 150K+ mikes.
I wonder though, if you have seen GM's 'new' 8-pin MAF sensor.
Here's a portion of a TECH LINK article.
"Beginning with the 2012 model year, a new 8-pin Mass Air Flow (MAF),
Humidity, Barometer (BARO) and Intake Air Temperature (IAT) 1 & 2
sensor is being used on some gasoline engines.
There are two suppliers of the 8-pin sensor, Bosch and Hitachi. The
Hitachi sensor is used on most of the applications at this time. The
sensors are also known as the Multifunction Intake Air sensor or
mini-weather station sensor.
The new sensor measures the intake air’s humidity. A second air
temperature sensor is housed in the assembly to accurately measure the
air temperature at or very near the humidity sensor. The ECM uses the
air temperature to calculate the air humidity, which is displayed by the
scan tool as Intake Air Humidity (%). The signal is transmitted on the
circuit as duty cycle (%). The intake air temperature sensor 2 is
transmitted to the ECM as a frequency (Hz), on the same circuit as the
humidity signal. The scan tool displays the IAT sensor 2 in degrees (°C
/°F) and frequency (Hz).
Harness and internal sensor differences do not permit interchangeability
between the Hitachi and Bosch sensors."
sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=512
Great...more fancy sensors to break. I bet they are not cheap...
Another unnecessary complication to make our diag jobs easier
yeah buddy, great job. I was going to service the Jetta DSG today, but I'm driving it to Connecticut on Thursday and will wait till I'm back.
Take it to Eric's shop! He
I sure does. Did you know he is the Jaguar expert.
Great job Ivan
Great Vid.... Nice tip about Rockauto. That's where I buy all the stuff for my truck, so far I guess I've been lucky cuz nothing has crapped out on me.
Hard luck on the oil spill.At least you were prepared with another catch pan!!!
I thought that coolant was ATF. Scary, easy to get mixed up. Thanks, Toyo! Ivan- shove a wad of plastic scratchy pot scrubber in all your funnels- that will never happen again.
the customer should pay for the coolant adapter you broke as a courtesy for saving them so much money on not replacing the transmission and the piece of mind that they can trust you fixing their car right the first time. Good job!
I wouldn't be surprised if they payed for it. In my experience most customers will insist on covering the cost when you let them know something like that happened. Especially after you properly fixed their problem for a lot cheaper than someone else quoted.
I wouldn't be surprised if they payed for it. In my experience most customers will insist on covering the cost when you let them know something like that happened. Especially after you properly fixed their problem for a lot cheaper than someone else quoted.
great diagnostic, love it
Good tip on the Rock auto heart. I'll keep that in mind.
Ivan, good video as always. Things just go better with oem parts. Are there any repair jobs that you decline to perform because the customer wont use oem parts? Just curious.
Hi Ivan , man that was a tough vid to shoot. Canadian Tire and Advance Auto seem to be suited well as both are totally incompetent. LOL Dealer parts for me . Saved buddy a fortune , well done. 👍👍
yeah Steve good thing my camera didn't get covered in tranny fluid lol
great work as always. Cheers.
So refreshing to see that funnel overflowing. I know that I am not the only one that this crazy ass unexplained shit happens to.
A Great repair video!
Damn good job Ivan....
Another good video!
Nice job on the repair....never fails ya make a mess on camera lol....can't believe Toyota don't recommend changing transmission filter
Distinct lack of brake clean, but otherwise a good repair.
You and Eric should have a 'plastic components not covered' clause for vehicles older than 5 years or somesuch. Customers should be happy things snap when you touch them in the shop, rather than it happening while they're going down the road.
Great Job. Nice to see someone to actually take their time to properly diagnose problems. How far are you from Utica, N.Y.?
Like 4 hours or so. Eric O at South Main Auto is way closer to you...he wouldn't mind some extra business ;)
funny as can be, but sucks when it happens, good on you for leaving the blooper in there :)
"edit" ahh the luxury of a drain plug! the transmission shop probably figured valve body/seal failure due to mileage
Hi Excellent video I have similar problem mercedes b class 200 in first gear only but only starts acting up engine and transmission has fully warm up to temperature do you know these valves suseptable heat.Thanks
Awesome job!!!!
you were right you did have a Toyota to fix that was one heck of a 15 minute job
very nice love your videos.
LOL, I've done the same thing draining oil. The drain pan i borrowed had a plug in the funnel i didn't know about...
Start it by hand,you dont want to strip out a valve body.
Many thanks for that educative vid
Is Toyota's transmissions is more reliable than Honda's transmissions ?? Or vice versa??
This would happen to ME!!Thanks for being REAL..such a good plan though~
Don't feel bad I did the exact same thing with a transfer case plug. I found its easier to catch it in a oil drain catch pan with a spout and transfer it into a bottle to measure later
I only use factory parts on anything I touch. With few exceptions. If you are buying dealer parts on a regular basis, and the parts guys get to know you as a regular, don't be afraid to ask for a discount. They will set up an account for you and give you a discount. Chris
no but I replace alot of shift solenoids on Alison Trans though. lol beard looking good man!
I was thinking "I hope he doesn't drop the drain plug into his funnel...few seconds later...and it's in the funnel haha"
Glad Pine Hollow isn't in the part of the rust belt Scanner Danner is in ! Nice clean job 👍glad the spill wasn't like the trans filter change I did once on a ford windstar . Pan slid right off my finger tips . Can you say " Exxon Valdez " !
lol! Actually I'm only a few hours East of ScannerDanner so the rust levels should be pretty similar...But if you go a few hours North to Eric O's SMA neighborhood the rust is quite a bit worse up there!
Amazing though , that Toyota looked clean ! I know your no stranger to my home town of Staten Island so your well versed with our rust buckets . But still , Eric o. and scanner danner could tell me , " yeah , you got some rust but WE GOT RUST ! " . Still glad you get your hands on cleaner repairs than us 👍.
I think this car was driven so much it didn't have time to sit and rust lol
Ivan it seems that Mr. Murphy visited your shop LOL
Had a similar problem with 2 of my Saturn's..........went to Autozone for a free code read and they told me to replace the transmission when all it was ....a solenoid ....they have 5 of them but are all interchangable...
Thank you so much👍👍
if I don't have access to all data to find part location is there a website that I can use beside bbb industrys
Customer is lucky; majority of places will sell trans job due to ignorance or greed. $500 parts and labor is a bargain. Very Nice 👍
No new filter?
Hey good fix. Man cant believe the trans shop wanted to replace the whole transmission over a bad solenoid, what a bunch of scammers. Your customer should go that shop and make a big fuss, and tell them what a bunch of shitbag scammers they are. I mean it is not like that shop couldn't pull the same code you did, and could not do a few simple tests, just as it says to do in the service information. Anyway, sucks about the trans fluid all over your shop floor. Nice video.
Thanks AJ, I was just glad to be able to fix it without too much hassle.
Haha that was funny one 🤣
Bad days happen to everyone, good job.
The dealerships with their prices sometimes deserve..... I won't finish 🤣
Nice job, Ivan. You and BagerTronix should stay away from liquids..LoL. I know there are transmission shop ripoffs just like any other business but in their defense with the mileage and the color of the old fluid they might have been covering their butts by recommending a complete rebuild.
I hope you explained to your customer that something else could fail in the future that has nothing to do with your repair.
Oh come on it's a Toyota! Nothing else can possibly break; this was a fluke ;)
Ivan,no new filter,,,, no cleaning the pan and magnets........lol . just kidding bud GREAT vid, as always. (and a thumbs up to)
magnets were clean...but yeah should have installed a new filter for sure. Maybe next time when the next solenoid in line fails!
lol fliud looked clean just had to say it . didn t Eric O say toytas and honda never brake down......;)
That was hilarious. I'm saying to myself he hasn't got enough of clearance to get the drain plug out and when it went into the funnel that was ballgame over. About time we see some "Reality UA-cam."
haha when I watched the footage of that I cracked up myself...definitely worth keeping in the vid for some entertainment value ;)
Actually Ivan there is a pretty safe way of doing what you actually wanted to do. There is a drain pan you can look over on Amazon. This is the link: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JJ63QF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This was recommended by Brian's Mobile and what I like about it is that you use it as a conventional drain pan but it has a pour spout that works great at pouring the oil into a jug like you were trying to do to measure it. I use Super Clean in a spray gun (well you are talking to Denny here) to clean it up (great water based oil remover available at WalMart dirt cheap. Only takes a minute and the pan is big enough to cover both the oil and the filter during an oil change.
My buddy had an 03 Matrix that I recently bought from him. Last year he got a P0420 code in it. Took it to a Toyota dealership and they immediately told him he needed a new cat, $1000 to replace. He declined. He moved to Washington soon after, drove that car there and not long after leaving, the light went out. He bought a new car a few months later. I flew out there in December, and halfway thru my drive back to Colo, the light came back on. Once I got home I did some research and found that the conditions for the oxygen sensors to set off that code were set a little too tight. It was Toyota's fault. The PCM needed reprogramming with less strict conditions. I erased the code, drove a couple hundred miles to set the emissions monitors (all became ready except Catalyst), and took the car to an emissions testing facility. The car passed with flying colors.
What bothers me is the stealership insisted he needed a new cat instead of telling him that the PCM needed to be reprogrammed.
Same story on Cadillac. GM won't even re-program it at a discount rate. Full shop rate applies - your problem now.
Nice video. What's the part number of this solenoid?.
I hope you used distilled water in that coolant?
no new filter?
Wow, I saw that spill coming! He he. Was the filter fresh? I hate fluid repairs.
Good fix i have the same problem with an explorer I think now i watched this
Explorers usually need complete transmissions...but worth a try!
Lol ok I'll try diagnosis first
A 2009 should have pink toyota antifreeze
That plastic junction where all those coolant hoses connected reminds me of VW's "crack pipe"
I'm amazed at the failures here on an '09. What the hell is happening with today's automobiles?? Cheap-out central ... :(
You're the 3rd guy I've watched battle through frustrating stuff and not even get the slightest bit mad - wish was more like you guys! I'd probably be alot more productive. I lose my mind working on cars today, LOL! Just ask my neighbors ...
Ah one burned up solenoid in 190k miles isn't all that mad. If it was a newer GM, it would have eaten up like 10 modules by this point LOL
Yeah you're right about that, LOL!
Don't all newer Toyotas use the "pink" Super Long Life Coolant?
Which Autel is that?
Did the same solenoid on my 03 Lexus RX 300. Had to drop the valve body.
huh guess I lucked out here. Just barely enough clearance to stick it in.
#BeardSquad check in !
every time i do a transmission fluid change i get fluid all over the place and I've got a lift with transmission drain pans, i hate draining trans fluid.
why didnt you put a filter in at that mileage????
Toyota has no recommended filter change interval. My Toyota dealer didn't even stock one. I bought one from a part's store, but it even appeared inferior.
daveS ministry The Toyota dealer didn't have a tranny filter? That sucks
Its a screen filter. They dont really clog unless something in the trans breaks and drops pieces into the pan
Trans filter on many Toyota transmissions is really just a screen, not essential to change. Think Eric O did a Camry trans change video and said the same thing.
We all been there with tranny fluid spilling out of control. Working without a lift on a concrete floor is hard core. So Ivan how long did it take to clean up Toyota Lake Baikal?
Darn, $230 for shift solenoid 35230-52021 - your local Toyota dealer is a real steal'er!! Elsewhere, the same OE part can be had for $155 to 170, but you have to wait for it to be shipped.
lmfao only because i couldn't count the times it's happened to me. funny as hell. great video. thanks for uploading. ps. at least it didn't run into your armpit.
I changed tranny fluid about a year ago. I got about 1.5 qts on the ground !
Put a magnet on a rod down
The radiator to see if plunger
Piece was laying in bottom
Of radiator just for a double check?
those take the super long life pink coolant. that radiator cap was shot, time for new one. those tees for coolant are really sensitive, broke those the same way before few times.
The new coolant pipe seemed to be reinforced and made of a more resilient plastic. Time will tell!
Start it by hand holy crap! Lol otherwise great video!
Hey Ivan ive been looking for the same Amp Clamp you use...where can i get one?
Sears!