Zellsis On Why He JOINED SENTINELS Over other Organisations
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Ima keep it real. Him, s0m and FNS are in the right direction right now. The volatility within the esports economy is insane. Allowing themselves to more or less relax a little with the stability of streaming and content creation definitely helps them in the long run. At the rate the esports scene is going for valorant there's going to be major shifts in the economy sooner rather than later I think.
Couldnt of said it better myself plus the fact that sen is the most popular org in valorant really helps him alot
100%. the 3 of them are the smartest for sure for their decision so far.
The problem is there is a lot of volatility within content creation too. For sure right now him, S0m, and FNS will be doing great. But in content the further away you are from your "pro" career the more you numbers go down. Look at Shah'z numbers now compared to when he was winning with Sen. Or look at Demon1s numbers now compared to before he won VCT. Content creation is easier than being a pro, but being a pro boosts your numbers for content creation significantly. It's a two-way thing.
@@cjjones633 I think it depends on the creator on how they choose market themselves and the type of content they choose to do. I think these guys are prob looking at tarik who has been able to establish his brand in a way that's larger than anything he was as a major winner in CS. It's the decisions he made and the personality he is on stream that's allowed him to get there. Yes, it's still unstable, but i still think it's still less volatile then EG dropping their championship roster on a moment's notice lol.
You have a point but at that point its down to the individual's to make their content unique and stand out. For instance there are lots of pros who barely care about content, have horrible viewer interaction and no consistency, but still pull at least 500-2000 viewers because they are on a top 10 VCT team. Then compare that to tarik who has never even competed at T2 in valorant but became the most prolific streamer and gets 300k on watch parties. Not to say he couldnt but when he was a major winning cs player, he wasnt NEARLY as clouted. He maximised his content opportunity. Overall it depends on the individual but content and marketable org is def the best way to ensure permanent income compared to purely competing.@@cjjones633
Zellsis was always a good fit for sentinels or other way around
Not really lol.
He’s mediocre at best.
@@Adam-vc6bp says the iron.
@@Adam-vc6bp You are Below Iron
yes I was really disappointed when he joined C9 instead
he's a better flex than TenZ that's for sure.
Makes perfect sense. Competing is great and all but it doesn’t come close to the stability that being a full time streamer brings. S0m for example can make any schedule he wants and guarantee himself at least 5k viewers watching no matter what he’s streaming
Dude’s averaging 10K rn, crazyyy
He's upto 9k now he's chilling
Zellsis staying where the money and clout is, smart man
arent they broke ?
@@mohammed7849 TenZ clout = Money
@@mohammed7849 every org is
@@mohammed7849they’re not Lmaoo
@mohammed7849 but they got tenz and tarik
It's the right thing to dо..to promote yourself and your brand while times are tough and confusing on the pro scene... Tarik said it's important to do that so you don't end up with nothing, and Jordan understands that. And also he understands where and who will help him to pump his brand, I remember he had 10 thousand online at the streams of bootcamp SEN.
And considering how bright and funny a personality he is - he'll serve up a lot of content
bright and funny personality = yell
The "cgrs" of NA right now
@@UploadsScoresFordT bro watch his stream for a hour, i swear he's wholesome than just yelling
Trust me I watched his stream for an hour and its actually just yelling with chat interactions@@soppe2931
@@soppe2931exactly, you can say the same about demon1. people think he’s the worst person in the world but one look at hiss stream and you can tell that he is wholesome
Honestly, Sen=clout He had 8k subs when he was in Sentinels and he gained thousands of followers on twitter.
WHO'S READY TO SEE MORE UNCENSORED ZELLSIS SCREAMING AND DOING THE GAWK GAWK?
Welcome back home Zellsis. We missed you
This is a good move for both parties with their own desired goals. Zellsis could possibly play throughout the season with the possibility of TenZ stepping down with personal matters (hoping not), but that'll give Zellsis the chance not only with creating content, but also to compete when the the time comes.
Happy for him!
With how orgs are currently right now, there are a lot of talents to choose but many of those talents are just not generating enough revenue. You can be one of the best val player but get cut due to your low popularity and income when streaming with low views. I feel like this is another reason why Sentinel chose to still sign tenz because he is a good player, and make a lot of money just by brands, streaming, populatirty wise too plus they have tarik. Good choice by zellsis.
Zellsis was a great when he was on Sen , I'm happy that he joined again
Happy for him tbh, it’s usually good to think long term as he’s doing. Good luck, Zellsis! HE’S BACK 🔥
He definitely fits sen. So happy hes back.
Rember his 1hp clutch? That’s f’ing insane.
bro can do any role so ig the sub role works out
You know times are crazy when even esports/content creators are talking about the economy 😅
Tbh, even though he says he wants to compete, I think he'll eventually just do full time content creation and retire from pro play. If his goal is to stay in NA, I don't think he's going to get a bigger bag than with SEN. And if he takes a year off, then I don't think he'll get nearly as many offers in the future especially since he'll likely be under a buyout now. I think for him, I would've probably just taken the chance with that potential championship team he was talking about and see how that goes but it is what it is.
sen is optic v2 where players go to compete and build their brand at the same time
To be a winner or not to be a winner
Zellsis and Tarik should make skits together, who knows what crazy ideas they might bring
my king is back
TLDR Translation: The current tier 1 valorant scene is trash. So I (zellsis) went with the org with the most clout that can sign me as a 6th man so i can chill and create content. This is going to give me the option to rejoin the tier 1 pro scene when the climate is right.
Accurate, and honestly the right decision for him.
sen zellsis just feels right.
really good move
Basically he doesn’t want to go broke while still being a pro
somehow i found it weird that zellsis and boostio has the same energy
All those taking a break should make their own org now
They need million of dollars to build an org.
@@Mastergenius_ subathon special
because of the bag can alr answer before watching
Smart choice.
I miss bald zelsiss
and now, he is a champion :>
This aged well
Extremely well
I have a feeling either PRX, Zeta, or GE were the Pacific teams that were offering him. Maybe even Bleed too.
Not prx. They already have 1 import
I remember zeta wants to stay with full Japanese roster
@@ryancrafar3733something counts like an import?
@@Busterblade20 yup. He is EU
@@Busterblade20of course, he is russian, that's basically an import
he made a really good choice
I was so confused on why SEN let him go this season. He looked so good with the team.
he left on his own sen offered him a deal
He said in the beginning he regretted not staying with sen.
before franchise zellsis wanted to win tourney for atleast once in his carrer
early C9 roster is yay,vanity and zellsis thought that they can win something, so this is his best chance to attend a tourney but its all gone lol because C9 broke
smart man
Nice bro, 2024 Will be Sentinels year lml
Zellsis was a good fit for SEN when he first came along.. I think its only right. Its a scary thing to think about, competing at a pro level for housing/food/and some extra cash.. When before it was all that and a BAG.
he is 8k sub in SEN so its good
SEN Zellsis the Captain of Cheerleader squad !!
Captain of the world championship vibes now 😂😂
Sen is the the best
when he was with V1 he had like 300-500 viewers, but when he joined sentinels he had like 2000-3000+ sometimes more. and when he left it got back to 300-500 im not sure. don't know why he even left in the first place, pretty sure sentinels offered him a extension/contract since he was the best player in that shaz/tenz/dapr/zellsis/shroud roster. maybe he thought his brand got bigger by all the shouting and sussy personality and didn't realize it was just the sentinels brand?
He's made the good decesion to stay with the content team
Big brain
lol some of you guys are hating for him making the right business decision. Ask any esports player, they’ll tell you there’s more money on the content side then the esports side. The truth is, esports is an inconsistent industry with a lack of money. When Valorant dies, your career dies as a pro player. If he builds an audience big enough and loyal enough, he can transition to the next game and still be doing great financially as a streamer and content creator. You guys bashing him would do the same thing I’m his position, if you were smart.
how is joining an org that has to crowdfund to stay alive stable
He joined SEN because he hecking love TenZ BatChest
ZADDY
Who's out?
the C9 chair follows all former C9 players
it's pretty clean to be fair
lmao who's next? Xeppa?
zellsis is one of the content infinity stones of course they pick him up
sentinels are gonna be good they are like c9 of cs but i have a feeling they gonna win some more trophy my guess
I'm glad they have zellsis behind the roster now, zellsis brought a lot of energy and firepower in lcq 2021.
Bro sees the future
Zellsis said that he hoined C9 because he wanted to win a trophy and it would be nice to have one. If he is remembered for his play, then trophy would be necessary and C9 roster has that chance. That's why he is leaving sen.
Now he is back again. LoL
Good decision to go to sen if he choice the stability
Bro what is this multiverse
Zellsis and Tenz streams, Zellsis and TARIK streams, Zellsis, Tenz and Kyedae streams - legit can't wait
Only means marved got picked up by NRG and the super team leaks (Aspas, Crashies, Victor, Marved & Saadhak) are real 👀
ngl, if you think clear about it, what zellsis is doing is actually clear and right.E sport now is in shambles, him som and fns are definitely. in the right direction for not rushing into anything and take time for their own longevity. in the game
Zellsis will be joining sen active roster as igl in the mid of next season😂
Na and streaming no surprise
NA won champs. Sorry not sorry haha
@@NoFaceNA Yeah, and what happened to them ?
@@oscaka0073 doesn’t matter still won champs. Best content and still won champs how u feel
Cuz 60k a month is ez money
PRX would have been dope
being a 6th in a franchising team right now is probably so good, you probably won’t even play but still get paid 😂
Isn't this the team that asked their fans for money on kickstarter or something? How are they signing more people
Cause they still got money from merch, players' contents, etc. That might be just their joke
Sen is winning even tho they hit rock bottom
where my bald man
They got Tenzs replacement ready 🤣
just say i wnna que with tarik and move on
Yeah prx offered him a spot
Yoooo if he said APAC that means PRX probably offered him cuz they’re one of the only APAC teams to speak english
?? Bleed, ge speaks english
Can't be PRX. Something is still considered an import and you can't have more than 1 import on a team.
he obviously meant GE. prx dont need zellsis' role, bleed is an ok idea, but they have sights on aspas. GE is doing a full renovation
my mans doing the marved
marved is washed and can't even do interesting content
Isn’t sen struggling right bike with finance
smart decision
People mad about the EG situation but the reality is that every eSport organization right now is dealing with economic issues. Salaries are higher than they should be and becoming almost impossible to maintain
aye bro pancada and sacy might have visa issues, its possible Zellsis can hop on the stage fr this year
That doesn't happen to Brazilians
Who said that there were visa issues, I need some source
cap, zellsis d tier player
The real reason- 💵💵💵💰💰💰
This instability and over-inflating salaries only affects NA scene no ? I don't think EMEA or Pacific suffers from it considering there's zero drama of the likes. Except for Bleed maybe, those fkers spit out cash like nothing.
Other regions don't have the same problem because from the very beginning they don't spend insane amounts for player's salary. Businesses should be sustainable and NA wages just don't make sense business wise.
🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
Watch him get dropped for missing a shot 😂
On the real though, being a massive fan of Z, I’m now gonna be watching their games when he’s in
He’s not guna be in unless someone is sick bro. Zekken, sacy, pancada, tenz & johnqt aren’t guna be pulled unless someone’s super sick or something lol
Sacy Out. Zander In please
no lmao
want to compete but 6th man?
You didnt understand, he wants to compete eventually, but right now orgs are just pure shit, look at whats happening with EG? he wants to compete eventually, but right now he's going to focus on expanding his brand and having more stability since sen is probably one of the only orgs who can do that. Also he stated he wants to stay in NA.
Uff zellsis wrong decision moving from sen to c9
Oh he’s only a 6th… disappointed
organisations lol
This is perfect for homie he's always been overrated and now he's a 6th man. Literally said he is prioritizing content lmao just retire
salty 😂
So clout plus staying around like TenZ?
lol "for content"
Weak mindset
Werent Sen broke
They got tenz,Tarik and Brazil fans with some old xset fans, Point being NO
No, it’s clickbait
Singing with SEN as a 6th means he values the brand value more than just straight up the salary number. He can easily get upwards of 5k viewers at the days he was active in SEN.
lol how is sen even a org all the sen teams are trash
Lol
lol such cap!!! choosing to be a sub over being on a championship level roster? absolute cap buddy
Nice. Clout over Titles.
Well zellsis just won a title sooo???
So he getting paid to bench free money and builds better brand yeah gg
Bro said he wants to compete and had all kinds of offers to do so and then choose to be a 6th?!
Did you not listen to anything else he said?
Look what happened to c9 and eg lmao, no matter what, high chance of just getting dropped immediately.
and nrg, basically every esports team rn
he said he wants to compete but he wants stability more cause the scene is pretty bad right now, and sen is the best option for that. even if its a 6th.
12 year olds can't comprehend fr
This is what happens when corporations create an influx of money and bring franchising and massive salaries to esports. Esports in the beginning was competing for the love of the game, and you won or came top 3 and went home with some money, or you lost and went home with nothing. Franchising and these big money companies killed the competitive integrity of esports, and the esports scene will suffer long term for it. The old school, open circuit, you qualify you go to lan, anyone can make a team and compete, was always the true heart of competitive gaming. Franchising and massive contracts has made gamers lazy, entitled, and wanting nothing but clout from streaming. Competitive gaming is dying.