How to make 5000uF capacitor

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    How to make 5000uF capacitor
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  • @JjMn1000
    @JjMn1000 3 роки тому +23

    Electrolyte? He doesn’t need those negative signs if there is no electrolyte

  • @listerdave1240
    @listerdave1240 3 роки тому +38

    I don't know if its a typo in the title or a deliberate misrepresentation but at best this capacitor might be 5000pf, not 5000uF.

  • @molas3000
    @molas3000 3 роки тому +12

    Your capacitor could have a maximum capacitance of 30nF if the foil was rolled precisely and tightly. and it is not an electrolytic capacitor but a foil one. Moreover, the copper reacts with the aluminum and after some time such a capacitor can be rinsed into the garbage.
    I built a capacitor with a similar technology. I made of 2 rolls of 45cm x 30m aluminum foil and 2 rolls of food foil 45cm x 30m per overlap so that they do not close together ...
    Measured the capacitance with a meter and it has about 10,5uF and its size resembles salami ...
    I'm sorry for my English. Translated by google.

    • @user-mo8ji2ho9j
      @user-mo8ji2ho9j 2 роки тому

      I'm agree Ur opinion. Also there are many product 4700uF only one$ which from China, Thinking "What is a benefit for us" .

    • @MasterBlaster220
      @MasterBlaster220 2 роки тому

      Can you give more info on how you made them? GOt a machine? How thight where the windings?

    • @Th3Fr0gL1ck3r
      @Th3Fr0gL1ck3r 6 місяців тому

      Bro u got great English, better than half the comments on youtube.❤❤

  • @user-nd6lg9nu6z
    @user-nd6lg9nu6z 3 роки тому +13

    Иногда мне с алиэкспресса приходят конденсаторы такого качества, что мне кажется, что их изготовил этот чел)))

    • @adiputrasetiawan2655
      @adiputrasetiawan2655 3 роки тому

      Hi friend

    • @user-nm4ko6rx5w
      @user-nm4ko6rx5w 3 роки тому

      :D

    • @adiputrasetiawan2655
      @adiputrasetiawan2655 3 роки тому

      Hemmmmmmn?? What

    • @user-mf3dq9cw2b
      @user-mf3dq9cw2b 3 роки тому

      @@adiputrasetiawan2655 Шо?

    • @Technotronic27
      @Technotronic27 3 роки тому +1

      Там в основном подделка встречается или перемаркировка оригинальных, то есть: реальный 330uF x 400V - "превращается" в 390uF x 450V. Это хорошо, если запас по схеме предусмотрен, в импульные ATX источники не всякий влазит, а в таком виде может и рвануть!

  • @tecnicocps
    @tecnicocps 3 роки тому +16

    A qué hora agregas el.electrolito??

  • @aptube6754
    @aptube6754 3 роки тому +70

    Literally in every video, he use only this music 😂😂

    • @TechnoSAP
      @TechnoSAP 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/E7PsWMkHCfc/v-deo.html🙏

    • @wuukaa9079
      @wuukaa9079 3 роки тому +7

      Literally in every video he puts 346789 ads every 30 seconds

    • @aptube6754
      @aptube6754 3 роки тому

      @@wuukaa9079 LoL

    • @davidmorrow95
      @davidmorrow95 3 роки тому +3

      I agree. The music is a little annoying when you’re trying to I understand what he is doing. And there’s no description of materials he’s using or how he’s doing it. He should do away with the music and be a little more interactive with his videos. But he is freaking smart

    • @average_Gamer321
      @average_Gamer321 3 роки тому

      For real XD

  • @JohnJones-oy3md
    @JohnJones-oy3md 3 роки тому +23

    Dude just rolled a capacitor like it was a spliff.

  • @JohnBoonBeanDutchman
    @JohnBoonBeanDutchman 3 роки тому +10

    1 problem, copper and aluminum don't mix well, and the copper will eat up the aluminum, and you hadn't measured that 5000 µF capacity, but for an electro capacitor explanation it is fairly clear I guess 😁

  • @georgepopa9690
    @georgepopa9690 3 роки тому +26

    It's definitely Fake.First of all that's a high voltage capacitor that can't be charged by 24 volts.An enectrolotic capacitor is the one that can charge with low voltages...it has too negative pin.

    • @johnnz4375
      @johnnz4375 3 роки тому +1

      All his vid’s are fake.

    • @shashwatvishwakarma269
      @shashwatvishwakarma269 3 роки тому

      @@johnnz4375 yes

    • @ivanm.3522
      @ivanm.3522 3 роки тому +3

      Off course it's FAKE. Electrolitic capacitors use a thin layer of oxide to maximize the surface of the armatures. This is what makes them expensive. If it would be possible to roll up components of that capacity that easy they would cost near to zero. What is unbearable is the number of followers that waste their time watchin this garbage. Lets Thumb down loudly.

    • @optimusrushgaming7306
      @optimusrushgaming7306 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/G6XGVvvD2TE/v-deo.html❤️👍👍❤️🙏

    • @JjMn1000
      @JjMn1000 3 роки тому

      I charged a regular microwave capacitor with some low voltage dc(like 6v) and also it charged if I stopped it at the peaks of the ac(like 6v phase to ground)

  • @mohamedmusthaq7629
    @mohamedmusthaq7629 3 роки тому +31

    These are called electrolytic capacitors of a reason. It should have an electrolyte DAMIT

    • @jaykoerner
      @jaykoerner 3 роки тому +2

      Not to say this video is completely real, but as a defense he didn't say electrolytic capacitor, he said capacitor, to pieces of foil with some cardboard between are a capacitor for all that matters, so long as the dude put two conductive materials, in close proximity with touching he made a capacitor, not necessarily a good one mind you

    • @cosmoschtroumpf
      @cosmoschtroumpf 3 роки тому

      There are also paper capacitors

    • @mohamedmusthaq7629
      @mohamedmusthaq7629 3 роки тому

      @@cosmoschtroumpf true. But as my knowledge paper is only used in non polar capacitors. This one is polar.

    • @cosmoschtroumpf
      @cosmoschtroumpf 3 роки тому +2

      @@mohamedmusthaq7629 it's a diy cap, don't care about it

  • @user-qk8zz4vc2n
    @user-qk8zz4vc2n 3 роки тому +18

    Хахах, а электролит где?)))

    • @KalantaryanArmen
      @KalantaryanArmen 3 роки тому

      За это надо полицию звать

    • @user-ek2gh2px8s
      @user-ek2gh2px8s 3 роки тому +1

      Вот меня тоже этот вопрос интересует😁

    • @user-uw6gx8yo3g
      @user-uw6gx8yo3g 3 роки тому +3

      Процес мочеиспускания внутрь баночки не показан их этических соображений.Но парень скромный, всего 50000 написал, а нулей могло бы поместиться гораздо больше.

    • @alexaleardo
      @alexaleardo 3 роки тому +1

      А мне интересно, чем он ёмкость измерял, языком походу...

    • @KalantaryanArmen
      @KalantaryanArmen 3 роки тому +1

      @@alexaleardo на глаз

  • @kenttidwell740
    @kenttidwell740 2 роки тому +9

    the problem is, if only one amp of current flows in to a 5000uF capacitor, the voltage across the capacitor would be 200V at the end of the first second. This "capacitor" appears to begin at 2V and even tho the current flow is several amps, the voltage does not appear to run up according to the math associated with capacitors. In other words, the current flow and the voltage readings are not possible for a capacitor of any size. Google the current/voltage/time relationship in capacitors.

  • @Bondadz
    @Bondadz 3 роки тому +22

    I still curious about cutting pvc using lathe.

  • @NominePater
    @NominePater 8 днів тому

    I think, your concern, it is you were known as an American Designer (which is NOT a bad idea) but, as a REAL project, I have the hunch I myself will lose money and time doing a thing like this... Whomever you are! I'm glad you're handy and your hands are good at working.

  • @lawrencebrown3582
    @lawrencebrown3582 3 роки тому +19

    I think I missed the bit where he added the electrolyte.

  • @sergiokrm1
    @sergiokrm1 3 роки тому +5

    Возможно я что-то пропустил, но электролита я там не увидел. Ну и правильно, ведь простой металлобумажный конденсатор даёт куда большую емкость. Толщина диэлектрика говорит о том, что ESR этого конденсатора будет просто запредельным. Медь с алюмием, образующие гальваническую пару, дадут просто невероятную надежность и время наработки на отказ. 250 полуляхов, не меньше.

    • @nailhabib1785
      @nailhabib1785 3 роки тому

      я думаю даже 260 полныхляхов

    • @user-ij1ll9br6j
      @user-ij1ll9br6j Рік тому

      Поулялх возможно уже к праотцам отправился, аминь

  • @garymucher9590
    @garymucher9590 3 роки тому +7

    Odd he did test it for the actual capacitance. I mean there are meters that can read such capacitors and show their values... And why Laser 5,000 mfd and 50 volts when you have no true idea what either would be?

    • @vladimirr.1260
      @vladimirr.1260 2 роки тому +1

      Это типичный китайский/индийский подход. )))

  • @GeoAdLinks
    @GeoAdLinks 3 роки тому +17

    I like your builds/demo's quite a lot,... BUT you really need to get off the music and start some voice or voice-over to explain to less smart dud's and dudette's what and why you are doing and what you're working towards. If you do that you will get a lot more views and fewer negative or questionable replies. It is obvious to me that a great many don't even get that you have a plastic barrier between your cap plates, which is acting as the function of an electrolytic.

    • @user-so7dj3tw4d
      @user-so7dj3tw4d Рік тому +2

      UA-cam pays more for the more comments you get on your videos so he probably does it specifically to rack up them comments

    • @sriyantra1939
      @sriyantra1939 Рік тому

      Paper acts as dielectric.
      Where is the electrolyte....
      Paper condenser.....only

    • @ArdimanKhiar
      @ArdimanKhiar Рік тому

      Bro the guy is from thailand not from America

    • @shehabshehabeldakamy3752
      @shehabshehabeldakamy3752 Рік тому

      why would he do it ??
      he may be a pakistani or an asian one

  • @mohamedmusthaq7629
    @mohamedmusthaq7629 3 роки тому +6

    Yeah use a lathe to cut through a half inch pvc pipe. Too brilliant

  • @makrugermd1249
    @makrugermd1249 3 роки тому +16

    Где проверка esr тестером

  • @zxnme.xm4
    @zxnme.xm4 3 роки тому +8

    TRY TO MAKE YOUR AMPLIFIER FROM THE COMPONENTS YOU HAVE MADE BEFORE

  • @ashfaqjuna
    @ashfaqjuna 3 роки тому +5

    Forget the capacitor
    Tell us more about the machine at 01:55.. so cool

    • @donsunsunde8253
      @donsunsunde8253 3 роки тому

      It's just a laser printer. Should use its own mounting on a table instead of on top of that lathe machine

    • @MrCreatorPratham
      @MrCreatorPratham 3 роки тому +1

      ठठबबस

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 3 роки тому +2

    Very good

  • @FloppyBoom
    @FloppyBoom 3 роки тому +13

    This is fake. That thing can't have bigger capacity than 0,5uF...

    • @ScottGrammer
      @ScottGrammer 3 роки тому +4

      Agreed. And it's not an electrolytic as the negative terminal marking would indicate. An electrolytic cap uses oxide on one of the foil electrodes as the insulator. That's why they are polarized, because the oxide is only an insulator in one (current) direction. If you hook it up backwards, the oxide conducts, and the cap fails from heat buildup. This is a "paper and foil" cap, with a low capacitance, high voltage ability, and no polarity. I suspect he has, as another commenter said, used a real electrolytic inside the can he did the "testing" with.

    • @sarjanapenerbangan
      @sarjanapenerbangan 4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed

  • @jesusalvarezfebres6592
    @jesusalvarezfebres6592 3 роки тому +5

    te falto medir la capacidad de ese condensador para ver si cumple con su especificacion tecnica impresa en la matricula es decir los 5000 microfaradios.

  • @AsitShouldBe
    @AsitShouldBe 3 роки тому +4

    Now can you invent the wheel?

  • @cptoneeye3263
    @cptoneeye3263 3 роки тому +4

    What type of electrolyte you have used ? Holly ghost ?

  • @tunderbird123
    @tunderbird123 3 роки тому +1

    No ESR test?...no capacitance test?...

  • @yunhi3129
    @yunhi3129 3 роки тому +1

    जियो शेर किसी दिन तुम हवाई जहाज भी बना दोगे यहीं।

  • @Rainbow__cookie
    @Rainbow__cookie 3 роки тому +6

    i want you to test it with a capacitor tester see the real value
    also why would i make a capacitor those are super cheap today cost prob more to make one myself than buy from china

    • @tolgadabbagh1877
      @tolgadabbagh1877 3 роки тому +2

      and how did he decide that its voltage rating is 35 volts . bullshter .

  • @rajnikantksuthar4048
    @rajnikantksuthar4048 3 роки тому

    Brilliant 👌

  • @wajoobaloch5394
    @wajoobaloch5394 2 роки тому +1

    Hi sir , Is there any capacitor that can stores energy for the day or days?

  • @MuhammadYaseen-vx5hw
    @MuhammadYaseen-vx5hw 3 роки тому +2

    can you make a project video with use of this capacitor, please.

  • @yasudan7690
    @yasudan7690 3 роки тому +3

    Since the insulator is paper, it's just a paper capacitor.
    Therefore, the polarity display is unnecessary.
    Is it possible to make 5000 μF with thick insulating paper?

  • @jaemojeon8498
    @jaemojeon8498 2 роки тому +2

    Is this type of capacitor a film capacitor, which is a metallized paper capacitor?

  • @rafaelsantos-rn3ey
    @rafaelsantos-rn3ey 3 роки тому +4

    perfeito

  • @rohankumarchauhan9653
    @rohankumarchauhan9653 3 роки тому +10

    I think he is the richest UA-camr in 1 million catagory 🤭🤣

  • @liliknuryani556
    @liliknuryani556 3 роки тому +2

    how u know Positive and negative pole

  • @Nikolaj_Teslov
    @Nikolaj_Teslov 3 роки тому +1

    Я понимаю когда делаешь большой транзистор, но большой кап, это ж велосипед, они и так существуют)))

  • @nopochoclos
    @nopochoclos Рік тому +2

    5000UF and what voltage? how do you calculate it?

  • @maximmikhailov879
    @maximmikhailov879 3 роки тому +8

    Оказывается, у иностранцев есть свои "Дмитрии Компанецы" :D

    • @user-nq6jh4xg8m
      @user-nq6jh4xg8m Рік тому

      и тоже бьівшие КГБистьі? )

  • @JamesBakerOhio
    @JamesBakerOhio 3 роки тому +20

    Would love to see that tested on an lcr meter. Nice workmanship

  • @s.do.r3281
    @s.do.r3281 3 роки тому +2

    Hello dear friend, in what devices is this capacitor used?

    • @paulmac7667
      @paulmac7667 3 роки тому +1

      Might be of use as a butt-plug, but that's about it.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 Рік тому

    Nice video, thanks :)

  • @russellali6502
    @russellali6502 3 роки тому +3

    Seems like a lot of trouble just for a cheap capacitor

  • @treverbelmont8393
    @treverbelmont8393 3 роки тому +2

    What is the negative in the capacitor and what is the positive because you only use aluminum tape

    • @stinkythestunk9803
      @stinkythestunk9803 8 місяців тому

      In this model, you could charge the capacitor either way. There is no need to label them.

  • @1misticointolerante
    @1misticointolerante 3 роки тому +3

    América....???
    Maybe India....

  • @naziamohammed586
    @naziamohammed586 2 роки тому +1

    I also want to build one

  • @rafiax4
    @rafiax4 Рік тому +1

    What about measuring with a meter?

  • @TechnoSAP
    @TechnoSAP 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice video 👍👌

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 3 роки тому

    Amazing.

  • @singhsandhu6855
    @singhsandhu6855 3 роки тому

    What's the size of alluminium tape you cut piece

  • @Marcos-tc1un
    @Marcos-tc1un 3 роки тому +1

    A capacitância é diretamente proporcional à área das placa e, inversamente proporcional a espessura do dielétrico.

    • @riyaanthemann
      @riyaanthemann 2 роки тому

      He doesn't know what that means neither do i. But electroboom already rectified him as FAKE or ranked in the faf category of creators

  • @sambhrammesta
    @sambhrammesta 3 роки тому +2

    Keep it up bro 👍

  • @farabielec
    @farabielec 11 місяців тому

    you are using a short pice of Al tape hiw u can get 500micro F?? unless u add electrolyte.

  • @yxhankun
    @yxhankun 3 роки тому +1

    Do u need to add oil to the capacitor? Should the positive lead longer than the negative lead?

    • @JjMn1000
      @JjMn1000 3 роки тому

      There is no electrolyte but that means he shouldn’t have even put the negative there

  • @Juniorfinger999
    @Juniorfinger999 3 роки тому

    Wow kreatif dan cerdas

  • @rogerchurch3804
    @rogerchurch3804 3 роки тому

    nice skillful work tho .

  • @Learnelectronics738
    @Learnelectronics738 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @user-nr1ep4nl1d
    @user-nr1ep4nl1d 3 роки тому

    勵害、自製電子元件、果然是專業!

    • @MrRobuz
      @MrRobuz 3 роки тому

      祝你一天愉快

  • @elyaabe.inventions
    @elyaabe.inventions Рік тому

    Very well done my friend.

  • @chch9209
    @chch9209 3 роки тому

    Thanks for video

  • @learneasyfilipino3731
    @learneasyfilipino3731 3 роки тому +4

    He make a polyester capacitor in an electrolytic capacitor container. Wow. You confuse people

  • @basileok2222
    @basileok2222 3 роки тому +1

    Which is the positive electrode and which is the negative one?
    How do you calculate the maximum voltage it can withstand?

    • @HighFlyer96
      @HighFlyer96 2 роки тому

      + and - are misleading. With non-electrolytic capacitors you don't need to assign positive and negative poles. They are bi-directional since the capacitance is 'generated' symmetrically between the two conductive materials seperated by the dielectric material. Polarized capacitor are built asymmetrically.
      The print is generally misleading, since the capacitor doesn't reach this capacitance at all, it's garbage. Better check out ElectroBOOM for better educational content in the field of electrical engineering. Greetings from an Electrical Engineering student

  •  3 роки тому +2

    E o Oleo não tem nesse Capacitor ?

  • @sarban999gaming8
    @sarban999gaming8 3 роки тому +1

    Pro Good video like

  • @mhammmmagh1465
    @mhammmmagh1465 Рік тому

    Doc pls can you test also how much micro farad you got... thanks for the video

  • @godstimeoghenevwedeobruche4051
    @godstimeoghenevwedeobruche4051 2 роки тому

    What is the name of that small manual engine used to label the capacitor container ?

  • @parham7458
    @parham7458 3 роки тому

    before capacitore, how to make your machines???

  • @plumbingwithelectriceannag5144
    @plumbingwithelectriceannag5144 3 роки тому

    Supper bro

  • @dharmakissoon
    @dharmakissoon Рік тому

    Thinking about busting open all my caps to make 1 big azz cap for my e bike greeting from nyc

  • @natalepacher9013
    @natalepacher9013 3 роки тому +9

    5000uF ? HUAHAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣

  • @amubai3688
    @amubai3688 2 роки тому

    Butifule work.

  • @arturomora9807
    @arturomora9807 2 роки тому

    Good job my friend

  • @wenepzoli
    @wenepzoli 2 роки тому

    Super!
    Thanks share!
    Nice video!
    L👍i☀️k👆e

  • @Zebra_Paw
    @Zebra_Paw 3 роки тому +8

    LOL this channel really like making FAKE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!
    Even the title is wrong, 5000uF is not supercapacitor!

    • @TechnoSAP
      @TechnoSAP 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/E7PsWMkHCfc/v-deo.html🙏

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw 3 роки тому

      @@TechnoSAP why do you send this to me???

    • @TechnoSAP
      @TechnoSAP 3 роки тому

      Please comment on my video

  • @martinmarin841
    @martinmarin841 3 роки тому +3

    Tell me one of cowboys my friend

  • @歸虛
    @歸虛 3 роки тому +2

    沒有"電解液" 容量應該很小 才對

  • @madeinhome5761
    @madeinhome5761 3 роки тому

    Owsem

  • @mohidkhan4637
    @mohidkhan4637 3 роки тому

    Please tell me this aluminum tape length

  • @lxmndas
    @lxmndas Рік тому +1

    2 metal strips are position in such a way that both the insulating papers are touching each other and and while rolling, metal is touching the metal not insulator and it is a dead shot! You don't get any capacitance there.

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 3 роки тому

    But will the electrolysis wipe off?

  • @alunroberts1439
    @alunroberts1439 Рік тому

    So it is a dry capacitor

  • @haroonrashidraja9735
    @haroonrashidraja9735 3 роки тому

    Nice efforts

  • @joylightandsoundramrampurr704
    @joylightandsoundramrampurr704 3 роки тому +1

    Bro how to make lithum -ion battery

  • @bigboy2045
    @bigboy2045 3 роки тому +2

    First of all you made both plates with the same material so it doesn't matter where you put + or -
    Anyway, having a sparc doesn't mean that the capacity is 5000ųF.
    The sparc is because of the voltage.
    With a capacitor of 5000ųF and 25V you could have soldered that wire.
    Also put a different music just for a change..🥀

    • @MasterBlaster220
      @MasterBlaster220 2 роки тому

      Hello, what is happening with a capacitor when one plate is copper and the other is aluminum? Is it polarized?

  • @adamsucksatyt
    @adamsucksatyt 3 роки тому +10

    10 ads in 17 minutes...
    Seriously?
    If this continues I'm unsubbing

  • @worldwhoknowarindamsinha9658
    @worldwhoknowarindamsinha9658 3 роки тому +2

    Make a 3.7v to 5v, boost converter circut

  • @rsrinc378
    @rsrinc378 3 роки тому +13

    we need to show this to electroboom

    • @AsitShouldBe
      @AsitShouldBe 3 роки тому +1

      Electroboom is faker than him, i've debunked him.

    • @TechnoSAP
      @TechnoSAP 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/E7PsWMkHCfc/v-deo.html🙏

    • @waynegrimson8
      @waynegrimson8 3 роки тому +1

      He didnt make a 5000uf cap he didnt even measure it to prove his bold statement

    • @AsitShouldBe
      @AsitShouldBe 3 роки тому

      @S.IΠDUSTRIES is tre truth, bye.

    • @ElIsraelJijijiji
      @ElIsraelJijijiji 3 роки тому +1

      @@AsitShouldBe how can you say that, ElectroBOOM is a great teacher, he is an expert in electronics

  • @hermanhendroprijono1566
    @hermanhendroprijono1566 2 роки тому

    Chemical ????

  • @__--JY-Moe--__
    @__--JY-Moe--__ 3 роки тому

    he likes making!🙃

  • @devilkiller6650
    @devilkiller6650 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice

  • @vv720
    @vv720 3 роки тому +1

    Imagine you just prepare a capacitor to fix your car in desert
    and replace broken one with it

  • @williamgladstonemarthin9150
    @williamgladstonemarthin9150 3 роки тому

    que monstruosidad de capacitor 5000 microfalarios

  • @shubhayumanna8a377
    @shubhayumanna8a377 3 роки тому +1

    This is looking like a electrolytic capacitor but it's not because they have a diode on those points.

  • @pranavarora1999
    @pranavarora1999 3 роки тому +2

    I made it in same way but it did not work for me😭😭

    • @ok-ahsungestreift3031
      @ok-ahsungestreift3031 3 роки тому +5

      I think it's fake, yes you can make a capacitor like that it will work but the capacity will be very low. Electrolytic capacitors behave like the one shown in the video. This capacitor doesn't have an electrolyte.

  • @freddytuck5376
    @freddytuck5376 2 роки тому

    Make an fuel cell stack

  • @user-qp7eh4jz6k
    @user-qp7eh4jz6k 3 роки тому

    How to make capacitor with 400 volte ? Please .thank you.

  • @jamesdemuro5923
    @jamesdemuro5923 Рік тому

    Very easy ..all i have to do is to buy all those heavy machines and make one .

  • @dediruhyatompong2317
    @dediruhyatompong2317 2 роки тому

    Berapa cm panjang alumunium poilnya bos, mksh