Why I Downgraded from 360Hz to 240Hz
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Just uploaded to the gaming channel also!
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There's other forms of backlight strobing that are actually good like ASUS TUF ELMB sync and ULMB sync on some gsync compatible monitors. I've heard the Acer 270hz 1440p has really good backlight strobing for an ips panel and might be what you're looking for
The thing you get asked the most is your workout routine!
@@the_womp_and_only9062 nice how much is that I'm looking to upgrade from a TN 240Hz Asus panel to one with better image quality and the same speed though... This might be worth a look.
6:04 But you said that you are an esports gamer in the review of asus 360hz monitor...
I would like to recommend using frog pursuit in lieu of UFO's from blur busters. Aperture Grille made a game that is much better than blur busters UFO's being Chrome and Firefox can't keep up with variable refresh rates
The human eye can only see the $500 difference.
You can definitely see a little more than just that, lmao. xD
360 Hz is great, but, unless the individual pixels can keep up with that refresh rate, the difference you're going to see between a 240 hz and a 360 hz is that the 360 hz is a smudgy-a** mess.
That being said, his solution to the problem was stupid, lmao... he could've just set his 360 IPS monitor (The one with superior color presentation) to 240 hz, instead of getting a TN monitor (Dogsht colors, all yellow and green, ugh...). xD
Rich people have very little common sense. ;)
bro
@@MyouKyuubi k
A human eye doesnt see more than 60 fps wehen it looks around itself a monitor can do that so its how it feels not how we see it
@@MyouKyuubiI'll have to ask you about monitors once I go get a new one
me watching the game in 60hz: whats so different
tired red eyes
Me watching the video in 30hz, wdym they all look shitty
im 60hz i tried 240hz is🔥🔥 and its easier to aim with me
Big facts hommie
The difference between even 60 and 120 is very nice
I upgraded from 60 to 240 and its life-changing, to say the least
Upgrading from 240 to 120 backlight strobing is even more life-changing. It brings CRT levels of motion clarity.
the strobing better be really refined to it not to induce headaches, which is not possible on a cheapo 120hz monitor
the strobing better be really refined to it not to induce headaches, which is not possible on a cheapo 120hz monitor
@@luider8795 Not really sure what you mean. Isn't the potential of inducing headaches just tied with the refresh rate of the strobing?
You should’ve got 280
2 years later he would upgrade to a 540hz
he only upgrade whatever is new. he has infinite money glitch
@@cuerex8580and u the viewer is the generator
This is my favorite channel, without "silly jokes", he is so smooth, serious, represantive, only speeks about true facts, this channel is one of the best for PC hardware...
True!
Me playing on 60Hz : WoW 360Hz Is Not good Like Ali said.
@@griffin1366 he's saying "wow 360hz sucks" despite having a 60hz display which undoubtedly sucks more.
@@crumblenoob u dont understand the joke right? LMAO
@@crumblenoob are you okay?
@@zenithii1882 he was explaining the joke to a user who deleted their comment
@@FNKY767 oh ok my bad lol
We need a benq 360hz dyac +++ monitor
Aww yeah
If you can afford a $1500 monitor for sure
at that point your just a player inside the game
How about a benq 1440p dyac monitor finally?!!
What color settings do you use on the XL2546K?
2:27 Woah that shot was amazing.
pursuit cam :o
what games is he playing there? (other than cs go)
@@utrippin7486 Apex Legends, Valorant, and Overwatch
I mean, this is exactly how you test your monitor using ufo test
This has to be one of the most pragmatic and comprehensive comparisons that I have ever seen. Good work, and I really enjoyed the insight.
Watching a monitor review on hardware unboxed would explode your brain then.
Also, the setting makes a huge difference.
My monitor has very serious ghosting problem when set to 144Hz. But when set to 120Hz, almost no ghosting at all.
Some maker pushes their panel to get bigger FPS number, but in some case that just makes it look wost.
Companies watching:
interesting let's make 480hz minitor
and charge more for it
there already is one
@@3hited name?
@@FUCKwax There was a homebrew one on one of the tech channels. Linus, maybe? I don't think there is a retail one out.
To be fair companies have to keep inovating
"Inverse ghosting" or corona is often not mentioned in reviews, I'm glad you talked about it. I bought a Samsung Q80T for use as a lounge computer display as it was touted as one of the best gaming TVs on the market for brighter rooms (OLED isn't bright enough for my setup). This TV has hideous amounts of inverse ghosting, I can visibly see my room get brighter at night with the lights off when moving around in some scenes (in particular, Witcher 3 and Valheim during the game's night).
I've never exotic that on my Q80t that's odd
@@ritzy4593 inverse ghosting is very common on VA panels
@@HugoElcabezas I have the Q80t 65inch, Samsung G7, G9, and CHG70 and gave never experienced that on my screens though. The motion on those screens is really really good
No TV is really meant for gaming no matter how much "gaming" they put on the box.
Hardware unboxed is very good with that, they usually talk about inverse ghosting (overshoot) in their reviews.
Honestly the difference between 240hz and 360hz is so minimal, and I'd rather have BenQ's Dyac technology because that's something that actually makes a massive difference.
Have you seen how it looks on ips 👀
It looks extremely good compared to the TN panel
@@achoprtv well, the benqs are TN panel.
@@achoprtv Yea, that's the only downside. Though in terms of pure performance, the BenQ beats it hands down. DyAC is a game changer.
@@TWJYILY is DyAC really good on spraying? too bad can't find one in my country
A tech reviewer that's actually good at video games is such a refresher.
Its crazy ppl still say humans can only see 60 fps
That budget 1080p Monitor comparison coming soon, Ali?
Finally have all of the ones I want to compare - so yes!
@@optimumtech Yay!
@@optimumtech EPIC can't wait! Keep up the amazing work!
My man!
@@optimumtech XG2431 review in plans?
I would love to see you try out a CRT and hear your thoughts on them.
He didn’t know what a CRT monitor was when he reviewed people’s gaming setups. I would also like to see him try them out though.
@@evilTuninvited I still have one.
I wish they made them with hdmi though, getting them to work on modern pc is a hassle. But for some games it just works like nothing else. I just finished Little Nightmares 2 on a CRT, and it was great.
@@jamegumb7298 the Delock 62967 DAC I picked up for relatively cheap works amazingly well for me. I get 160hz @ 800x600 and 90hz @ 1600x1200 without issue.
It's been a few years since I've used CRT and I'm feeling increasingly disappointed with both my 240hz and 360hz IPS monitors. Response, input lag, ghosting, contrast, richness and warmth are all compromised with LCD. I hope OLED and similar technologies are the future of gaming monitors
@@anthlongordo oled is already there (of course it costs a small fortune for it), but most likely mini & micro led will be the leading screen types in the next 10-15 years
My first thought is how they lack the connectivity options of today 😆
They also make an annoying high pitched noise when running at 60Hz & are very flickery giving me a headache. CRT is definitely not for me.
Ali, just finished my SSUPD Meshlicious build and it's awesome! Thank you for reviewing it!
I like 27” monitors, seems like the majority of 360 monitors are 24”.
I think with 27 you should get 1440p as 1080 looks not that great on a larger scree
@@chisthyer943 im pretty satisfied, but thats a consideration to be made for sure. .
I've never bought a 24 inch monitor and I never plan on doing it cuz they are just better for a single monitor setup which is what I have
@@chisthyer943 I play 1080p on a 32” monitor and it’s fine. So imo you’d have to be verrrry picky to require 1440p on a 27” haha
@@shoobadoo123 ye I play on a 240hz 24 inch and my brother has 27 1440 but at the end of the day it's preference
Him: Why I Downgraded from 360Hz to 240Hz
Me: Why I upgraded from 30Hz to 60Hz
30 hz screen ???? Which device r u using ???
@@sharul1709 switch?
@@JXSH722 The switch is a 60hz screen
@@user-kp4ii5eu2w no it’s not lol 30fps in game
I like this guy.
He is so gentle and humble in his approach.
A true Gentleman.
True
Gay
@@ghastlytsuyoshi346 lmao
And I'm sitting here on a MacBook that can't even properly render 40 frames consistently
what did you expect buying a mac?
Why would you even game with a mac lol
Me too. All my desktops are mining eth while it is still profitable. I lost interest in all of my previous hobbies.
@@mlkwy because I got it from my mom when she bought a new one for herself and I can't afford a PC myself yet
@@metallurgico I didn't buy it. My mom gave it to me for school work ect after she got herself a new computer and I can't afford anything myself yet
dude I love your reviews so much. Also its nice to see someone thats actually good at video games reviewing this stuff. I dont mean that you have to be a pro at fps but its satisfying to see that you understand the games to a certain level that you know what to say about the products, i notice it everytime i watch you and its a nice feeling. Keep it up!
Such a clean and precise presentation, as always.
They say that with smoothness and image clarity during fast motions we tend to really notice doubles. From 30 to 60 is a nobrainer. From 60 to 120 is huge. From 120 to 240 is definitely noticeable (especially in image clarity during motion) but 240 to 360 is more like going from 120 to 165. It's noticeable, but probably wouldn't be worth the upgrade. 240 to 480 would, however, be noticeable to most people as long as you point them at what to look for (basically viewing it more as motion blur reduction than actually being or feeling much smoother or more direct). Apparently it'd take around 1000hz/fps to have motion clarity equal to the good CRT screens from before most people reading this were born. They didn't have sample-and-hold technology and therefore could be 'stuttery', but technically didn't have motion blur. Hell, it's possible for fast motions to appear *much* sharper and clearer on such a monitor than in real life. As weird as that may sound.
I use 165hz it’s great
Referring to your last line, you might not believe me, but in real life, fast motions can be sharper and clearer if the environmental light was more than the average sunlight... Some really bright source can help.
i do miss that 150hz crt i had ( 640 resolution tho lol ) was worth it
funny how we had like 180+hz monitors 30 years ago ahah
3:40
That's insanely impressive motion clarity for the framerate
That's achievable on most TN displays with back-light strobing. It looks absolutely disgusting around the object though so I guess that's very likely a heap of overshoot happening there.
Blackframe insertion on 120hz OLED will blow your mind then.
not only the shots, even your hoodie is so clean I LOVE IT!
Motion clarity is such an underrated feature of gaming monitors that almost no manufacturer advertises properly. Even some of the nastiest VA panels with horrible ghosting and smearing can be advertised as "1ms". It's why I steered away from the Asus PG35VQ (200hz VA panel) and went for the LG 38GN950 instead (160hz IPS). There is no way to truly know how good a monitor is in this department without a proper reviewer showing the real response times across all colors with different overdrive modes. Tim from Hardware Unboxed has done a great job there, though.
The tech in that Zowie sounds pretty cool. One day I might have to upgrade if they ever make a 1440p one. My personal ideal monitor would be 1440p and 160-180hz. Of course it would also be OLED due to the colors and near instant response times.
Not OLED, but consider the 27GP850-b by LG.
It’s 1440p 165hz (OC to 180hz). IPS panel of course and 1ms RT.
They already have a 1440p 240hz monitor
its impossible to not like a video this guy puts out
Personally, 1080p is getting passed its time. The additional details in the picture that 1440p brings help me spot targets more than I believe 360hz would.
But most 1440p monitors are 27" and above,which isn't really ideal for competitive shooters.
@@johnybravoooooo what? Nothing wrong with 27 inch
@@johnybravoooooo If you ONLY play competitive shooters, maybe. But that's your preference.
I mean most csgo pros out there dont even play at native 1080p
@@nea3451 Yeah for tac shooters like CS and Valorant higher resolutions are completely useless. Maybe the commentor is referring to BR games, where high res helps you see far distance enemies clearer.
Nice video, explains the thoughts well & frankly I'm totally convinced after seeing those comparisons! I'll verify it via some other sources just in case it was a setup issue in some way (highly unlikely)
100% agree. I'm pro player and I am thinking on switching back from the Alienware AW2521H 360Hz to the Benq XL2546k because of the same reason, hope we get a 360Hz with DyaC soon.
I'm a pro. 60hz ftw
Can I Ask your XL2546k settings ? mode,beq,colors, etc. ? ty
Yo, I have colors, brightness all to 100% (This are personal preference they don't affect performance at all). Sharpness I use 7. What matter the most tho is the overdrive and DyAc settings, so the best settings are Overdrive (High) with DyAc+ Premium for the Cleanest Image possible.
Ty bro. BlackEQ , Contrast , Gamma ? And what profile u using ? Standart or gamer or fps ? Ty
@@sandorszabados8477 Np, FPS profile with default BlackEQ, Contrast and Gamma
After Linus has turned into tv-shop, you have become my favorite reviewer, keep up the excellent work.
Really glad to see someone on UA-cam discuss response times, motion blur and backlight strobing in-depth, it's not discussed enough. RetroArch has an option for "black frame insertion" which operate on the same principle, and even when it's 120hz getting cut down to 60, the motion clarity was enough to convince me.
Glad to see people like you in the space that will make videos like this and not just praise numbers without context.
Well Mr Optimum, you might not be a pro gamer but you are at the top levels of great UA-camrs.. You rock man. You videos look crisp and clear, your audio is spot on and you seem to be picking my brain all the time on what to give us every time you fling another video our way. 3 thumbs up!!!! 👍👍👍
"you might not be a pro gamer" go watch his streams
You have some of the best thumbnails ever and they are not even clickbait.
6 minute video, quick to the point = Subscribe. Keep it up man!
great video, as always.
A deep dive, or comparison, into ultra light motion blur would also be interesting.
I agree 100% with your conclusions and it's why IMO a 160Hz CRT feels very similar to a 240Hz LCD. 360Hz (and even higher refresh rates) are the way forward but response times probably aren't there yet. There is another aspect you didn't mention and that's actually being able crank out consistent frames to support a clean 360Hz, that's the reason alone why I also use 240Hz over 360Hz.
Also if you want to go farther into these sorts of comparisons a zisworks lcd can show you a lot. It's the same panel doing 120/240/360/480Hz (depending on the res)
Can we all just appreciate this king's aim?
BTW I would just like to say how much I appreciate your blend of 24fps or 30fps B-Roll (not sure which it is) and 60fps gameplay. I hate it when people show video game footage at 24fps or even 30fps if it would normally run at a higher frame rate. It looks so stuttery and honestly distracts from the video.
How do you notice that? Pro gamer
@@delta2884 it's very obvious
I got an AW2720HFA because it was reasonably priced and in stock 😅 I actually wanted a 1440p 144/165Hz monitor which was advertised at the same price but they haven't been in stock for over a year. I'm not disappointed in my purchase and once I can upgrade my GPU then I might look into the 1440p option again and hopefully by then it'll be in stock 😂
Cool i will get that as a second monitor today. My main is an AW-1440p. GPU RTX 4080. glad you seem happy
To see response time, try Punch-Out on the NES. That was built for CRT TVs. This generation of OLED with the ridiculously low response time is the first flat panel that does it justice.
loving all the monitor tests and reviews, hope you'll do more of them
i a subscriber since you had 10k subs and now 468k subscrubers omg you absolutly deserv it
love you man.
how your video recorded from gameplay is so Highquality? because you record in 4k or video editing? i love it
me: why I downgraded from 60hz to a 30hz
i upgraded to 144hz gsync compatible monitor and its amazing
As far as I remember the biggest gain is when going from 60 to 144, and after that each "gain" is smaller, and smaller.
165Hz probably is the ultimate middle ground.
im running 3440x1440p ultrawide ips with g sync at 120hz and it feels smooth as hell coming from an ips 60fps 1980x1080p monitor to me that is the sweet spot for me i rather have better picture quality and wider screen then any faster fps.
No need to limit yourself like that, people who get used to 240hz and above cannot go back. Their brain has been expanded and changed forever.
Human eye is capable of so much, I can only be excited for what the future technology will bring.
me watching this with a 10 year old monitor:" hmmm, id like anything better"
Dual monitor setup but mine are 13 years old. No display port.... 😀
Then buy a new one? These videos are all just ads
@@rileyhance318 hmm never thought of it like that, thanks
@@chadmcvlad9794 if only there was some way to make money that had been thought of already. started with a j or something. oh its jonlyfans
is it a CRT?
Dude, THANK YOU for not leaving us esports enthusiasts out to dry on your channel. So many other channels hardly cover anything about the latest 1080p esports displays. Is it theoretically possible to put DyAC features on an IPS monitor or is there something about it that it only works with TN panels? I'd love something that has extremely low motion blur at 240hz or higher but TN panels aren't what I'd want for my setup even though I'm a very competitive gamer.
upgraded from 144 to 360, best and the last monitor I'll ever need, I play a bit of CS, MX Bikes, DbD, Geometry dash and Dying light, got the most use out of MX and GD which I spend the most time in so I'd say it was pretty much worth it, even if you don't push frames to the max, the input response is absolutely insanee
Ok, you made me curious, I currently have an Asus 360 Hz, I also ordered a Benq with Dyac +, we'll see which is better.
Well, I'm after my private experience between ASUS 360 hz and Benq DYAC +. Unfortunately, I think all these videos on yt worshiping benq are over-exaggerated and prepaid .. Maybe there is some improvement with the blur, but the overshot is so big that it doesn't make sense. I'm going back to Asus. Benq for return :(
Benq is definitely overhyped and also this guy's videos literally show a different UFO blur results for same monitors on different videos to favor one or the other so I don't know what to believe. Look at his review on the Rank 1 Viewsonic Monitor where he puts a worse image for ASUS and Benq than the one in the original review of those monitors. It's like all of what he shows is to just make more people click his affiliate link for "the new best monitor for motion clarity"
man all this computer talk is getting me excited again. After i bought all my parts and bullt my pc i've been really missing computer geeky stuff in my life.
I can tell you this much.
When i first transitioned from console to PC at first it didn’t feel any different outside of the fps that is.
However,
When I went back to console and 60hz it literally felt like lag.
I came from 120Hz Ultrawide 1440p to 165hz 1440p 27" and then to the BenQ XL2546. Never made a better choice. The visuals are so fast and sharp and input is so responsive. i cant go back to the other ones.
I would like to see a Benq 27"with 1440p and DyAc 240Hz. That would be my next monitor.
Im not sure that IPS panels could give me the fastness of an TN panel but we will see.
I could recommend a adjustable monitor arm for anyone. You got so much more space on the desk and can put your keyboard and mouse UNDER the monitor. Especially for me cause i got a unconventional hotkey layout.
Cant live without DyAc
Once you upgrade to 120hz or higher it’s honestly difficult to downgrade. The smoothness is quite noticeable.
I upgraded from 60Hz to 75Hz and honestly even that is a big difference, I can't even imagine how good it gets for higher values. Hopefully I get a chance to try out at least 144Hz
@@MarkoVuckovic32 144hz are affordable tbh , if you think of what the prices of these 75hz were , its kinda the same around +150 $ so yeah. I currently own a benqXL2411 I bought it for like 180 , was worth and in a week , I upgrade again but this time straight to 360hz
Wrd when I first tried 120 hz it was game changing
glad you shouted out strobing. I bought my Viewsonic Elite specifically for it and people sleep on it and its the only way you can get LCDs to have CRT clarity.
Love your aesthetic bud. You got a new UA-cam sub
Why I downgraded from Koenigsegg to Pagani
I’d love to see a GSYNC video from your channel, as I believe it is the best way to make the most of your monitor. I think GSYNC is quite underrated. The difference it makes is massive with motion clarity and smoothness, even compared to most uncapped, high framerate shenanigans.
All of those monitors are Gsync compatible and that's the holle point... 360hz is a bit to fast, to soon.
Dyac and g sync don't work at the same time. Lg has similar tech like dyac called 1ms MBR it's too backlight like dyac.
I think gsync also adds some input lag
@Dihydrogen Monoxide it actually doesn't. Just V-sync that would cap your framerate to max refresh rate of your display, pure g-sync will just not kick in at framerates above max refresh rate.
@Dihydrogen Monoxide proof?
Good analysis! :D
I have a question: Does activating a strobe option decrease the maximum number of frames per second by half?
Dyac = 240fps to 120fps?
It always does on any brand. I missed that info in this video too. I cannot believe his measurement of system latency too...
A motionblur reduction technique will not reduce ur fps output as fps is determined by ur pc and not monitor. You will see the same number of franes with dyac on / off but with it on the image will be slightly clearer
it doesn't drop fps iirc
it drops brightness since your monitor does not show 100% light all the time but 50% or something depending on the strobing.
the rest of the time the backlight is turned off
Rather than the backlight remaining on, it will turn off between each frame to enhance clarity because the pixels are not backlit between frames. It does not reduce your fps
Seeing the original Overwatch clips makes me so upset that it's gone
Your thumbnails are a work of art
A few notes - This Asus 360hz model actually has fast enough response time to drive 360hz, around 2.2ms and it is currently fastest LCD panel. Benq is only better because of DYAC, which is not for everyone due to strobbing.
Lot of pro's are moving from that exact benq to that exact asus :) But as with many things, it is of course subjective.
BTW you should try playing quake champions, it is miles faster than games you are playing and I see that you like fast paced playing! Also offers more weapon type variety (tracking hitscan, projectile, tracking projectile, flick hitscan, etc) and movement variety (strafe jump, crouch slide, air strafe, dash, double jump etc)
Not true, only 65.5% of transitions are within that window, g2g isnt the only transition.
My mind is blown on my ps5 doing 120 hz and this guy is “downgrading” to 240 hz
barely any difference with 120, 144, and 240. The most ideal experience is to get your fps and hz as close to each other.
most games on ps5 didn't support over 60 hz anyways lol.
tells you how much it really makes a diffence
i promise you almost all games on the ps5 are not running at 120fps. also, your TV needs to be 120hz which most are not. so, people saying oh i can see the 120hz on some $400 dollar tv are just full of it.
I upgraded from 60 hz to 144 and it's mind breaking how weirdly better it is
It's hilarious to see all of the UFOs moving at the same pace
over a year now i am owning the Odyssey G7 32" 1440p 240hz
I am playing valorant only and i am in love with this monitor, its super versatile
I'd love to see your thoughts on seeing the backlight strobing of the ASUS VG248QE. This monitor sold me on BFI many, many years ago. You'd have to find one used at this point, but it is well worth it. It has the best implementation of strobing as the monitor was intended for 3D viewing. Since then, I have yet to find a clearer monitor.
The issue with BFI that no one mentions is that it is inserting a black frame. Meaning, a 240Hz panel is showing you 120Hz of information, since every other frame is black. The ASUS VG248QE could only run at 120Hz, and thus a 60Hz BFI image. I eventually got rid of it, but no other monitor has a clearer BFI implementation than that one. However, modern panels are probably clearer in terms of raw visibility just because our manufacturing processes have gotten better. A TN panel from 6 years ago is not the same as a TN panel from now-a-days.
hey, mate, im torn between the zowie mentioned in th video and the rog strix 1440p 240hz pg27aqm. im coming from a g9 and i play a lot of valorant so im sure the zowie is the option to go for but ive feel in love with 1440p gaming from the g9. any chance you can review these two monitors in comparison? Thank you
so what u got
@@bhagats1ngh I have legion Lenovo 24 inch 1080p 240hz monitor. I play valorant competitively
Interesting take that IPS is the way forward for gaming monitors, as much as I like IPS panels and use them for both of my secondary monitors I'll still use the VA as my main because the contrast ration and actually having blacks is good.
Great video! Just one thing - your claim at @1.57 that the speed up is 3x is not entirely accurate, as a similar argument could be made for 30 / 60 fps. I agree that response times can aid in reducing motion blur; however, it is somewhat unrelated to frame times.
He reviews tech and he's actually good at fps games. As an overwatch/apex player, you have my respect.
"Why I went from billionaire to millionaire"
I play on 144hz. I feel like it looks so fast already and that 360 wouldn’t even be “game changing”. I feel like the jump to 240hz would be great enough.
i've got 360hz Alienware a few months ago after long time playing on 144hz. Huge difference. It worth the upgrade no matter what this guy says
@@pashkinodji9315 oh cool. Does it just look better or do you think it actually gives competitive advantage.
@@sawyer.5436 that's exactly how I feel. Visually I can easily see smoothness difference between 144hz vs 240hz. but for performance after switch back and fort 10 times I really don't see improvements on my aim or skill. But from 60hz to 144hz my aim gets so much better. Also don't forget input lag. that's so much more important for performance than just pure smoothness. At the end of the day even if you downgrade from 240hz to 144hz your eyes get used to it in 1 hour and choppiness of 144hz disappear so fast and you don't see performance change. So 144hz still is standard in my opinion
I’m on 75 hertz and tried by brothers 144 hertz and omg my eyes
u will get used to it, and when you do u will never go back to 75 hz i can promise you that.
Just bought the Asus swift 360hz 1080p for $299 new shipped on Amazon. It went down in price so much that it is curretnyl cheaper than the other 240hz options you mentioned in the video. And actually cheaper than many other 240hz or 280hz options
backlight strobing sounds like it could be rough on eyes
I have had the Alienware 360hz for 3 months and I can absolutely tell the difference now when seeing my friends 240hz.
One thing I would point out is that apex legends tops out at 200fps so you won't see any difference with 360. (I have a 3090 and 5950x so I doubt my pc is the issue). But CSGO is amazing on 360. I have gained 2 ranks since the swap from 180hz.
Zowie XL2546k is still superior for aiming and having easier time tracking targets than any of the IPS 360 hertzs monitors, heck even the Acer XV252QF 390 hertzs is worse in pixel response time regard, it has MPRS 3.4 ms, not worth to get refresh rate boost for less crisp picture at high frames and worse response time of monitor when aiming.
@@AntonioKH2 so alienware but cut the refresh rate and remove the g sync chip and nvidia reflex
@@resolvedmanx0156
Pretty much, any 360 hertzs monitors and beyond currently on the market have less pixel precision when aiming than the Zowie XL2546k with it's DyAc technology, right now the only reason to get one is to reduce eye fatigue, and be able to react faster to enemies appearing on screen if you play scouter position in first/third person shooter games, but it's very circumstantial, I would take the picture clearance and low latency over the extra hertzs anyday, we are talking about 0,02 miliseconds margin advantage from 240 hertzs to 360 hertzs, it's so minimal that it raises the question wether you should pick one or the other for reaction time or aim instead, for me it's aim, but I can understand why some people would want the first one to have slightly increased hardware reaction time and reduced eye fatigue.
I'm hopping we can get DyAc at 360 hertzs and beyond soon, that would be my wet dream, aiming is so much easier with it.
If this guy considers himself a casual, then I don't know what the definition of a pro gamer would look like o_o
someone whos so good that he gets paid to play the game.
the quality of your videos are getting to good
You bring up a great point when considering what gaming monitor to purchase. Frame sharpness seems just as important as refresh rate.
thank you for valuable information. this explains the backlight on my current max hz.
The colors on that tn are not pleasing
Have you tested the VG258QM or VG289QM monitors from Asus? I recently purchased both monitors and returned the VG259QM (IPS) display. The "0.5ms" quoted from asus on the VG258QM just seemed so much smoother vs the IPS variant at 1ms
60Hz -> 120/144Hz = HUGE upgrade // 120/144Hz -> 240Hz = BIG upgrade // 240Hz -> 360Hz = very small upgrade, not worth the trade off.
144 to 240 it aint mucb but you can feel it
@@Dualthumbguy I had a 240Hz monitor, and its a big jump. Almost as much as from 60-120. 240Hz feels smoother but the biggest thing is the input lag, everything feels instant.
@@owlmostdead9492 idk about you but it was not as much difference as i had with 60 to 144 my friend had 240 and yes it is a prretty good difference but not as big as 60 to 144
@@Dualthumbguy obviously depends on your reaction time, mine tops at 135-145 ms, so of course not everybody will notice it as much as I did
Thanks for the v ideo!
I always have thought that 360Hz monitors are having only the refresh rate and nothing more, since it is so hard to implement it right now.
Zowie are not the only company to implement backlight strobing. Other monitors have this too, usually called MPRT mode.
@Optimum Tech May I ask you what AMA and Dyac do you use on the XL2546K (After trying both the VG259QM and the XL2546K the Benq is now my main, I tested motion clarity and I absolutely agree with everything you said in this video, IPS made a great leap in terms of refresh rates but response times compliance are still subpar compared to 240hz TN alternatives)
I can't even tell the difference between 100 Hz and 144 Hz...
Bcoz there isn't one
Human eye can only see 10 fps anyways so why bother
Oh my child, my sweet summer child, this is wrong beyond words….😅
I find it funny how many people there are out there who get tricked into thinking that paying so much extra for 240hz or 360hz monitors is worth it for them. Most people are going to be much better off spending their budget on monitors which are better in other areas, or on other components in their PC (or just saving that money). There are so many other features of monitors worth paying for, such as size, response times, contrast ratio, colour quality, text clarity, build quality, etc.. As long as the response time is good (and I realize that usually response times are not that good), 120 or 144hz is already great even for online action games, and most people don't seriously play any online action games seriously enough for it to actually matter anyway (and not all action games benefit much from having a good response time even if you ARE very serious about how you play them).
For something like 360 hz to really be worth it you’d need something like an OLED screen, the only mainstream tech that I think has the capability to capitalize on that high of a refresh rate. Current LCDs simply don’t have the pixel response time to keep up with that high of a refresh rate, so you’re not really getting the benefits in blur reduction you should be getting.
Obviously the ideal would be zero motion blur when tracking a moving object just like reality. But LCD pixels just can’t change colors fast enough to accurately reproduce motion at such an immense degree of smoothness. It may even be the practical physical limit of the technology, but who knows.
Are there even 360hz OLED monitors?
We know it Ali, you made this video as an excuse to show those clean shots
Ali: "I am not a pro player"
Well I guess I'm a potato then 🤷🏻♂️
@Matty He's also nowhere near pro level. His skill is impressive, and good enough to give reviews aimed at competitive players, but pros are a whole different level.
I guess he referred to pro as in professional, so he is just saying that he is not getting paid for gaming, right? I mean, he got skills barely achievable for us potato humans.
ppl thinking pro is just about aim skill is just too funny.
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So i have currently a 144hz Monitor, should i buy a 360hz or 240hz Monitor?