We've got a lb341 in the UK last season, cannot speak highly enough of it. You cannot seem to block it , even when damp. One of the big selling point for us was that we can get away with 6195 on it. The claas needs 7290 for the same output. Never had a single breakdown. Buy it....
17 minutes of straight to the points, no hemming nor hawwing with constant redundancy. Everything well said. I'm curious about the cost:benefit ratio of a refurbished modified Hesston-Pandy 4910 Baler @ $25,000 compared to the more expensive new balers.
I've got 40,000 bales on my Kuhn LSB 1290 and it never gives a problem. I didn't buy a krone as I don't really like towing 4 extra tons of steel around for absolutely no reason.
I with you krone is heavy in places that just isnt necessary. I worked in a farm equipment junk yard for a while. We had few krones with the stuffer system completely destroyed. Not sure what it ate.
Magnets are a mechanics best friend , I use them to hold nuts and bolts and even wrenches ! I have a large assortment of magnetic trays to work with . Somebody told me Krone was making an estate bailer about 1/4 size then yours , have you heard that ?
I see a lot of the same design in that pickup that our 569 baler has on it. Weve been pretty happy with the newer pickup design and those square teeth have done well thru 3 years now.
I also whole heartedly agree about the looks of these new balers. I am not a fan of the rolling suppository look, give me some angled sheet iron and I will be happy. I wonder too if all the plastic/fiberglass sides on these machines might cause static which would make the dust cling to them?
@@onelonleyfarmer I will have to check out the kuhn version. These look like a good machine but I am with you on the cost, why buy the next to best when you can buy the best for the same money. The only reason I could think would be financing, deere does offer some good deals from time to time. I am not familiar with the krone dealers and how they do with finance, but I might be finding out. We are looking at buying a new moco and our local guy has some krone rigs on the lot.
I think if I was going to be in the market for a new baler,it would be the Krone or bust,that's just too much money to accept anything else Wes. At over 200-K get the best you can get the first time around.
The last bale eject does lay flat, in the position its in now its towards the rear witch makes the ejectors move up to engage the bale. And It does have paddles in the top of the pre compression chamber that when the material has formed a flake compresses them and actuates a cable that runs down to the stuffer mechanism. Deere made a lot of improvement to the 341 over the 340 and definitely over the kuhn baler.
I swear I love it when OLF reviews a baler.. cause it ain't it'll probly do that... its that design will do this... cause I've done it!!! there's just all sorts of experience layered in his reviews cause just like the song I've been everywhere, he's ran every baler, he's probly baled more large square bales then there are people in some states in his life
Lot better review than I saw yesterday. Lot more detail and explanations. Erics review was it has six knotters and gave the tire size. The rest was just rambling how nice it looks. I guess your movie idea got to him. He had to emphasize to remember baler wars was his idea. He thought of it. He went out of his way to make that point. The wars won't last long as soon as he starts getting out baled he'll probably get mad and delete the channel. That's all he can do is block and delete if you don't praise his every move and Pat him on the back. Hes not a beef farmer he a "sheep" farmer, that's all he wants on his channel.
How is he doing this supposed baler wars he doesnt own a cutter i would think to to enter such a thing you would need to cut the hay tedder rake and bale
@@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 it'll be the custom work for 2 or 3 guys he does custom work for. Wes bales more hay in 2 days then he does all season. When he put twine in the baler last spring he was complaining because he couldn't get all yellow twine so he had yellow on one side and blue on the other By the end of the season he still had the same mix. Buying shiny green equipment is his version of a participation trophy.
@@Mad_Farmer912 I asked him about his rules for his supposed wars we cut rake tedder and bale 1000 acres sometimes more and I said are you required to do all the work he said just the baler hahahah well that's only one step if you have to show breakdowns and dealer support you should have to show cutting raking baling the whole nine yards
@@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 not that I ever see that channel will ever get big enough to be monetized, why would anyone send him videos to post for him to make money on. Post them on your own channel and try to get paid yourself. Unless he's gonna split the ad money with all participants.
The Ghost Of Lucias Clay from what I heard the guy that supposedly owned all the equipment at Eric’s farm came in with Cops and took it all back so Moser the Poser is going to have a very short war!
I work for Krone I'm a baler mechanic... They been running a demo unit for John Deere out here.. I haven't heard anything good about them .. I guess it's built really light? But out here on the west coast we make high density bales.. we do 1290 hdp high speeds mostly and a few HDP2..
The light inside the stuffer chamber is a good idea as well for those late night miss fortune's. You never put this baler down so to speak. But you are one hell of a Krone salesman! Hope your getting commissions.
I'm personally not a fan of that feeding system. Had a round baler with similar set. I think it creates more slugs and puts more hay on the outside when baling a full width swath. Where the augers separate from from rotor pushes the crop together more uniform before being pulled in.
@@Northern_Farmer I have a Vermeer 504r and it's got the new rotor pickup with less moving parts it's the same as the new Deere pickup and you can just go it will start a bale at full speed on any grass
Awesome to hear your review after watching the other one, one thing I agree on it is ugly for me, not that it would make any difference in the performance.
B&L farms Do you feel better about yourself now that you’ve set the guy straight on his use of bail in place of bale while making sure to insult him even further by calling him an ass kisser based on his mild praise of the video creators’ knowledge about the equipment he’s reviewing? Yeah, I realize that was a run-on sentence, but we have you to correct us for the err in our ways, so I’m not too concerned about it. P.S. Don’t forget to take me to task on the comma splice as well. ✌🏼
@@blfarms1687 Thank you for observing my spelling error. I usually take great pride in spelling and grammar, but don't usually call out the errors of others. Alas, I'm not perfect. Wes generates money via his UA-cam account and commenting on his posts, to my understanding, contributes to his financial success from his videos. You and I have now aided his efforts by supporting his channel. I could accomplish just as much be replying to any of OLF's videos by simply saying, "B&L Farms can suck my dick." But I won't.
We have had these little magnetic bowls for years in the PC world. No only can you stick them anywhere metal, but ferrous metal parts (screws & such) stay inside that bowl.
Baler wars? Lol I remember watching a live stream he did last season, he didn't like the comments he was getting and looked as though he was almost in tears to the point he jumped out the tractor and blamed the straw. Baler wars lol that's funny 😂
Aww I missed you again!!! I would love to meet you when you come up to my neck of the woods! I would laugh so hard if the guy from across the river ran into you there Lol he lives real close to Deere country
You should really look at the hesston massey ferguson at a dealer that has a older baler for you to compare to the new models, your opinion of the new balers being built lighter would quickly change. The new balers are built heavier in every way you have to actually look at a new and old side by side.
What are the shipping weights of the balers that you were talking about Krohn versus the Kuhn versus a John Deere versus the Heston thank you for it's possible
He keeps saying it's a Kuhn Baler which I agree they bought the patten to it but the only original Kuhn thing on the Deere baler is the under carriage Deere redesigned EVERYTHING!!
Seems like different manufactures work great in different areas, not well in all areas. Do the research and find what works best in your area then make your final decision, if the “whatever” worked great all over the world, it would be the only one sold. Different crops, different soils, different people. Farming........ Thanks for the videos
Your neighbor doesn't want to get into a Baler war with you Wes,the Krone would take that pop can on rubber tires and pack it up into a little tiny green square and spit it out...HAHAHA!!!!.😂👍
@@bigwheel6533 Its better then all of them from what I can see,no other baler will run ground speeds of 10+Miles Per Hour without jam ups,fewer break downs,excellent dealer backing.
@@4gauge10 you are talking about the high speed model not the base models. I have seen the stuffer system all destroyed in these balers. Track systems are problem prone. Bigger is not always better. Also they are much higher. Not sure where wes is buying his krones from but here in kansas you have to pay a premium for german socialism.
@@bigwheel6533 Wes buys his Krone from a Krone dealer. Sounds like the farmers out your way are not maintaining their machines too well,I've watched alot of videos about these balers and EVERY farmer says the same thing,they are almost no trouble,when their is a issue,the Krones are easier to fix,even their standard models are twice as fast as any other machine.
@@4gauge10 oh come on twice as fast? Really lying for the germans now! All shit breaks. Who knows why those krones were junked but ive seen all makes junked. Blaming farmers for not taking care of there machines is pretty low. Sounds like your another low intelligent city schmuck.
It’s very over priced Deere is going against the krone 1290 high speed not the hdp. The standard krone is only 150,000. My opinion is that stuffer system looks like a high wear point. I also don’t like the 18 grease zerk you have to hit every day. You even have to grease the flywheel.
funny how OLF explains at 3:06 how the trip mechanism works. Well that is not how it works. And by the way for those who thinks it is a Kuhn-Deere.... Well it is a Vicon LB...... watch this:ua-cam.com/video/SDOW2FCFDIE/v-deo.html. Watch this movie at 0:56 and learn how the packer turns into a stuffer. Also the john deere.
Eric will tell you I'm trolling him. I'm not, I'm just trying to have a conversation. I just ask questions and point out things he said and then did the opposite. Then he gets mad when he can't give an answer. I'm blocked on all 3 of his channels. Anyone who doesn't give him an attaboy and say he's great is a troll.
My baler is high enough density to earn me plenty of profit per bale,what other reason is there. Obviously any one who doesn't have a krone is in the wrong I suppose. The resale value on my kuhn is exactly the same as the big pack,but 100,000 NZD cheaper to purchase,with a much better service from my Kuhn dealer than the krone dealer.
Nigel Clats I never said that your wrong I just said you don’t know the reason! I to was like you when it came to what I had. Now I know the reasons why I no longer own the cheaper lighter Baler. If your happy with what you have than that’s good. But when you want something different than I suggest looking into a commercial Baler.
We've got a lb341 in the UK last season, cannot speak highly enough of it. You cannot seem to block it , even when damp. One of the big selling point for us was that we can get away with 6195 on it. The claas needs 7290 for the same output. Never had a single breakdown. Buy it....
17 minutes of straight to the points, no hemming nor hawwing with constant redundancy. Everything well said.
I'm curious about the cost:benefit ratio of a refurbished modified Hesston-Pandy 4910 Baler @ $25,000 compared to the more expensive new balers.
Fccv
im learning about stuff I will never need, but Wes is so good at explaining things I just have to watch the whole lesson. THUMBS UP
Well heck, I'm gonna add a magnet to my little Hesston baler. That's a good idea.
I've got 40,000 bales on my Kuhn LSB 1290 and it never gives a problem.
I didn't buy a krone as I don't really like towing 4 extra tons of steel around for absolutely no reason.
Nigel Clats Thera a reason you just don’t know what it is yet.
I with you krone is heavy in places that just isnt necessary. I worked in a farm equipment junk yard for a while. We had few krones with the stuffer system completely destroyed. Not sure what it ate.
Thank the Europeans and Canadians for that hand brake.
Baler assist is NOT a flywheel starter.
Magnets are a mechanics best friend , I use them to hold nuts and bolts and even wrenches ! I have a large assortment of magnetic trays to work with . Somebody told me Krone was making an estate bailer about 1/4 size then yours , have you heard that ?
Wes check out the magnetic parts trays at Harbor Freight they work great for holding small parts.
My 566 baler has the same tines...square and big heavy rounds on the sides.
LOL....I just did a video a few weeks ago called it Tractor Wars! Bhahhaha...or was it tiller war....I can't remember ...good stuff!
I see a lot of the same design in that pickup that our 569 baler has on it. Weve been pretty happy with the newer pickup design and those square teeth have done well thru 3 years now.
I also whole heartedly agree about the looks of these new balers. I am not a fan of the rolling suppository look, give me some angled sheet iron and I will be happy. I wonder too if all the plastic/fiberglass sides on these machines might cause static which would make the dust cling to them?
Kirk Blakley there steel on this only the front is composite. I prefer the look of the Kuhn
@@onelonleyfarmer I will have to check out the kuhn version. These look like a good machine but I am with you on the cost, why buy the next to best when you can buy the best for the same money. The only reason I could think would be financing, deere does offer some good deals from time to time. I am not familiar with the krone dealers and how they do with finance, but I might be finding out. We are looking at buying a new moco and our local guy has some krone rigs on the lot.
Thank you Wes for the magnets.
I think if I was going to be in the market for a new baler,it would be the Krone or bust,that's just too much money to accept anything else Wes.
At over 200-K get the best you can get the first time around.
The last bale eject does lay flat, in the position its in now its towards the rear witch makes the ejectors move up to engage the bale. And It does have paddles in the top of the pre compression chamber that when the material has formed a flake compresses them and actuates a cable that runs down to the stuffer mechanism. Deere made a lot of improvement to the 341 over the 340 and definitely over the kuhn baler.
We are on our 3rd or 4th season running a 459 round baler in heavy wet hay and have not broken a single one of the square times
Agree Deere looks a little anemic on the iron. The magnet is for your pins and clips that hold your knotters down/in place. Great idea btw.
I swear I love it when OLF reviews a baler.. cause it ain't it'll probly do that... its that design will do this... cause I've done it!!! there's just all sorts of experience layered in his reviews cause just like the song I've been everywhere, he's ran every baler, he's probly baled more large square bales then there are people in some states in his life
Lot better review than I saw yesterday. Lot more detail and explanations. Erics review was it has six knotters and gave the tire size. The rest was just rambling how nice it looks.
I guess your movie idea got to him. He had to emphasize to remember baler wars was his idea. He thought of it. He went out of his way to make that point. The wars won't last long as soon as he starts getting out baled he'll probably get mad and delete the channel. That's all he can do is block and delete if you don't praise his every move and Pat him on the back. Hes not a beef farmer he a "sheep" farmer, that's all he wants on his channel.
How is he doing this supposed baler wars he doesnt own a cutter i would think to to enter such a thing you would need to cut the hay tedder rake and bale
@@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 it'll be the custom work for 2 or 3 guys he does custom work for. Wes bales more hay in 2 days then he does all season. When he put twine in the baler last spring he was complaining because he couldn't get all yellow twine so he had yellow on one side and blue on the other By the end of the season he still had the same mix.
Buying shiny green equipment is his version of a participation trophy.
@@Mad_Farmer912 I asked him about his rules for his supposed wars we cut rake tedder and bale 1000 acres sometimes more and I said are you required to do all the work he said just the baler hahahah well that's only one step if you have to show breakdowns and dealer support you should have to show cutting raking baling the whole nine yards
@@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9 not that I ever see that channel will ever get big enough to be monetized, why would anyone send him videos to post for him to make money on. Post them on your own channel and try to get paid yourself. Unless he's gonna split the ad money with all participants.
The Ghost Of Lucias Clay from what I heard the guy that supposedly owned all the equipment at Eric’s farm came in with Cops and took it all back so Moser the Poser is going to have a very short war!
made in the Netherlands Geldrop in the old PZ Zweegers factory
I work for Krone I'm a baler mechanic... They been running a demo unit for John Deere out here.. I haven't heard anything good about them .. I guess it's built really light? But out here on the west coast we make high density bales.. we do 1290 hdp high speeds mostly and a few HDP2..
The light inside the stuffer chamber is a good idea as well for those late night miss fortune's. You never put this baler down so to speak. But you are one hell of a Krone salesman! Hope your getting commissions.
I'm personally not a fan of that feeding system. Had a round baler with similar set. I think it creates more slugs and puts more hay on the outside when baling a full width swath. Where the augers separate from from rotor pushes the crop together more uniform before being pulled in.
The kunn deere is stepping up there game
Chalk n Cheese as we say here Wes..... The Krone has it ALL!!!
Nice honest review yet again OLF!
When I think John Deere I think of Tractors and Combines and not balers,probably a good reason for that.
I love the John deere round balers
I have had very little trouble with the small square balers. I've been using them over thirty years.
@@Northern_Farmer I have a Vermeer 504r and it's got the new rotor pickup with less moving parts it's the same as the new Deere pickup and you can just go it will start a bale at full speed on any grass
Steamfan71 Deere owns the round baler game
Awesome to hear your review after watching the other one, one thing I agree on it is ugly for me, not that it would make any difference in the performance.
Hi Wes do you know that Krone is one of the biggest John Deere Dealers in Germany?
That spring has NOTHING to do with the feed fork making full stroke.
My son had a internship with John Deere and they were testing these balers in Arizona. They were green on the outside and orange on the inside.
I like your reviews of bailers. You know them from stem to stern.
And you don't know how to spell when you're kissing his ass. "BALER"
@@blfarms1687 bwahhhhahahahaha
B&L farms
Do you feel better about yourself now that you’ve set the guy straight on his use of bail in place of bale while making sure to insult him even further by calling him an ass kisser based on his mild praise of the video creators’ knowledge about the equipment he’s reviewing? Yeah, I realize that was a run-on sentence, but we have you to correct us for the err in our ways, so I’m not too concerned about it.
P.S. Don’t forget to take me to task on the comma splice as well. ✌🏼
@@blfarms1687
Thank you for observing my spelling error. I usually take great pride in spelling and grammar, but don't usually call out the errors of others. Alas, I'm not perfect.
Wes generates money via his UA-cam account and commenting on his posts, to my understanding, contributes to his financial success from his videos. You and I have now aided his efforts by supporting his channel. I could accomplish just as much be replying to any of OLF's videos by simply saying, "B&L Farms can suck my dick." But I won't.
@@Greg_Gatsby clearly you still live in your mother's basement and have nothing else to do.
Well fuck we knew this shit was coming😂😂 let the fued continue!!! Team pandy ftw!!!
woop woop .. thanks for the reveiw by a real farmer ..
We have had these little magnetic bowls for years in the PC world. No only can you stick them anywhere metal, but ferrous metal parts (screws & such) stay inside that bowl.
16:02 " There's my new Corn Planter" did I miss something? Thanks for the video Wes.
That’s sarcasm from. Off I do believe
Great video Wes thanks for sharing have a wonderful day
Twine is fine, but whiskey's quicker ...🥃
Baler wars? Lol I remember watching a live stream he did last season, he didn't like the comments he was getting and looked as though he was almost in tears to the point he jumped out the tractor and blamed the straw. Baler wars lol that's funny 😂
Thanks, great job
Nice details Wes - good review !
Aww I missed you again!!! I would love to meet you when you come up to my neck of the woods! I would laugh so hard if the guy from across the river ran into you there Lol he lives real close to Deere country
that would be awesome .. but i bet eric would hightail it out of there in a hurry
Small flywheel for his old maxxum Wes.
You should really look at the hesston massey ferguson at a dealer that has a older baler for you to compare to the new models, your opinion of the new balers being built lighter would quickly change. The new balers are built heavier in every way you have to actually look at a new and old side by side.
Another great vid!
Hey I think u should check out the Massey Ferguson 2370 Ultra high density baler I think u mite be impressed
Is a new one for them
Id choose the krone either way,but the jd l341 baler would be a good one for the 4960 no?
Thanks for the vid Wes..
What are the shipping weights of the balers that you were talking about Krohn versus the Kuhn versus a John Deere versus the Heston thank you for it's possible
He keeps saying it's a Kuhn Baler which I agree they bought the patten to it but the only original Kuhn thing on the Deere baler is the under carriage Deere redesigned EVERYTHING!!
Great review, we going to see any action at the home farm?
John Deere: You can buy better but you can't pay more! : )
Seems like different manufactures work great in different areas, not well in all areas. Do the research and find what works best in your area then make your final decision, if the “whatever” worked great all over the world, it would be the only one sold. Different crops, different soils, different people. Farming........ Thanks for the videos
Your neighbor doesn't want to get into a Baler war with you Wes,the Krone would take that pop can on rubber tires and pack it up into a little tiny green square and spit it out...HAHAHA!!!!.😂👍
Krone is not that good. Give it a break.
@@bigwheel6533 Its better then all of them from what I can see,no other baler will run ground speeds of 10+Miles Per Hour without jam ups,fewer break downs,excellent dealer backing.
@@4gauge10 you are talking about the high speed model not the base models. I have seen the stuffer system all destroyed in these balers. Track systems are problem prone. Bigger is not always better. Also they are much higher. Not sure where wes is buying his krones from but here in kansas you have to pay a premium for german socialism.
@@bigwheel6533 Wes buys his Krone from a Krone dealer.
Sounds like the farmers out your way are not maintaining their machines too well,I've watched alot of videos about these balers and EVERY farmer says the same thing,they are almost no trouble,when their is a issue,the Krones are easier to fix,even their standard models are twice as fast as any other machine.
@@4gauge10 oh come on twice as fast? Really lying for the germans now! All shit breaks. Who knows why those krones were junked but ive seen all makes junked. Blaming farmers for not taking care of there machines is pretty low. Sounds like your another low intelligent city schmuck.
Did you ever had the chance to have a look on a claas baler?
Nice to see the European design in North America 😉
Just curious, how much does one of your 12' long square bales weigh?
That thing looks pretty cheesy compared to Krone. What’s the price difference?
Good review
The guy across the river is going to have to sell the baler now cuz olf touched it
How does the moisture sensor work on this baler?
Wes will the jd have the ground speed of the krone or do you run a little slower with jd
justin whitley it’s slower
@@onelonleyfarmer thats what I figured but wasn't sure when you said it had been redesigned
And to think it probably only costs a quarter of that to make the baler.
It’s very over priced Deere is going against the krone 1290 high speed not the hdp. The standard krone is only 150,000. My opinion is that stuffer system looks like a high wear point. I also don’t like the 18 grease zerk you have to hit every day. You even have to grease the flywheel.
Deere Zilla I won’t be buying one
The krone stuffer system is very complex with all those bearing and tracks. Deere is much simpler stuffer system. Complexity make failures.
Now that is a bailer review.
"Baler"
Thanks for sharing Wes
Krone still the best👍
Just face it Wes, you're spoiled by Krone. Hahaha. Krone for the win period!! Cheers :)
Check out the one video where he says messick's is going to add a fire HYDRANT not extinguisher to the BALER also... I died laughing!!!
The gear box and flywheel weigh 3,000lbs.
Do they cost less and require less fuel? I KNOW NOTHING!!!!!
Mornin Wes
It’s green Wes likes it I’m so shocked
funny how OLF explains at 3:06 how the trip mechanism works. Well that is not how it works. And by the way for those who thinks it is a Kuhn-Deere.... Well it is a Vicon LB...... watch this:ua-cam.com/video/SDOW2FCFDIE/v-deo.html.
Watch this movie at 0:56 and learn how the packer turns into a stuffer. Also the john deere.
Krone is #1...
I see these made 6 days a week 10 to 12 hrs a day
It maybe the ugliest baler on the market but pretty doesn't pay bills production dose
Baler wars that guys seems so clueless it’s funny
Come on WES, you've been trolling Erik's channel...Aey I don't see ugly at all........
Randy Schwersenska I don’t troll him but today I did a little
Eric will tell you I'm trolling him. I'm not, I'm just trying to have a conversation. I just ask questions and point out things he said and then did the opposite. Then he gets mad when he can't give an answer. I'm blocked on all 3 of his channels. Anyone who doesn't give him an attaboy and say he's great is a troll.
@@Mad_Farmer912 what 3 channels
@@ianthomas3938
The farming life
Elm custom harvesting
Baler wars 2019
@@Mad_Farmer912 oh yeah thank you
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baler wars ? onelonleyfarmer not a scratch one you
My baler is high enough density to earn me plenty of profit per bale,what other reason is there.
Obviously any one who doesn't have a krone is in the wrong I suppose.
The resale value on my kuhn is exactly the same as the big pack,but 100,000 NZD cheaper to purchase,with a much better service from my Kuhn dealer than the krone dealer.
Nigel Clats I never said that your wrong I just said you don’t know the reason! I to was like you when it came to what I had. Now I know the reasons why I no longer own the cheaper lighter Baler. If your happy with what you have than that’s good. But when you want something different than I suggest looking into a commercial Baler.
@@onelonleyfarmer them krones are damn expensive. To much german socialism
We can't make anything in this country anymore
You can. It's just a matter of saving money on developing I guess.
I thinks the krone is a better baler
1st
just like a moped
Claas is better
Ok but what parts available in North amarica
Krone North America the parts is excellent they have everything there to build a new Baler or piece of equipment.
@@midwestfarmerleduc9256 yes krone has parts but what about claas I don't think they have the dealer support
@@chevymetrodriver Sure, but with Claas you don't really need the parts because it doesn't break!
@@trossponsor9077 oh the baler is so good it never breaks down I need one with a guarantee and i wont worry about dealer support hahah
ill take the krone over the deere any day