Is This The Best "Go Anywhere" Monohull? We Think So | Discovery 48 Tour & Review
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Welcome to our dockside tour and review of the Discovery 48 (or is it 480?). This episode we take a look at the boat that was supposed to be RR2- we always intended to upgrade to a bigger Southerly, and this really is the perfect monohull for us.
If only they were still being built!
I emailed Discovery but have had no reply. It is unclear if they are still operational. Please comment below if you have any further information on this!
EDIT: I have received an email from Ocean Shipyard with the following information:
"We have just watched your fantastic Discovery 48 Tour & Review video on UA-cam, and I wanted to introduce you to Ocean Shipyard Limited. We started in January 2022 after the sad demise of Discovery. We have Discovery’s core team working for us and have attained all the intellectual property rights and tooling to build the Southerly Yachts range and Catamarans.
We have recently launched a Southerly 48 and we have a Southerly 48 and the first new generation Southerly 42 in build.
We are also operating as a rounded shipyard offering extensive refit services and bespoke joinery."
oceanshipyardlimited.com/
Thumbnail credit: Distant Shores
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Nice to have you for a change. I hope your visit home is going well. Good job, both of you. 👏
Thank you! 😃
This is a stunning boat. The possibilities are superb and the phrase, "but hey; you do you" is so very fitting and sums up the capabilities in styling and interior design from Discovery.
All in all, I think that you'll be incredibly happy with your new catamaran, as it will be giving you fabulous fit and finish, done to your very knowledgeable desires.
Can't wait for you to be back in Vietnam, showing off the progress on Ruby Rose II.
Great to hear from you both again this week. Nice review and a wonderful boat. 👍👍👍
Absolutely looove these boats!!!
Thankfully the Southerly saga continues as Steve Edwards, formerly of Discovery Shipyard, has founded Ocean Shipyard, who are continuing to build the Southerly 42 and 48.
I very much hope they stay afloat until I have saved enough to buy one!
We’ve just seen RR1 on a mooring in southern England. Spoke to her new owners (they bought her from the previous owner a month ago). Lovely people - Ruby’s in good hands and looking wonderful.
Great review of a very nice boat. Thanks.
I like the raised saloon for the ability to see - but you really nailed it on something I've never quite being able to articulate.
The *feel* of a raised saloon doesn't quite replicate the homely feeling of a lounge around living room that the lower saloon does. It feels more like a plush office meeting space or formal corporate dining room in some ways. You can't just sprawl out like you would in, presumably, your own living room at home. I've never been able to put my finger on exactly why I feel like raised saloons are missing something until your comment now.
One of my Sea Scouts has just got an apprenticeship with the yard building Southerly’s and Discovery’s. They’re definitely continuing with the Southerly’s not sure about the Discovery’s. Hopefully they manage to get going again properly as they’re my dream boats too.
Good news! I'm pleased to hear it
That's interesting. Also great news, two very worthy brands. The website looks very recently updated, it had been frozen since the liquidation. I have to say I think someone made a complete dog's dinner of the managing of the brands when southerly was bought out. The range was confused and I thought Southerly got a raw deal, Southelry became the lesser, sub 45ft brand (they had been working on a 675 previously that never saw the light of day) and Discovery the larger yachts. They had two very well respected brands with unique USP's but they muddled it. I also personally don't think the later designs looked as attractive. Fingers crossed this time.
One of the yachts at the top of my dream list.
A fine example of a beautiful vessel.
Beautiful
If the Ruby Rose II build goes on for awhile, maybe consider visiting older sailboats (from the 70's and 80') and see what people have done with these older ones. Many of these older vessels have been brought back to remarkable condition, rivaling many new builds. It would give people who want to have this life, but can't afford the brand new boats, an idea what might be obtainable, and more affordable. There's a lot of mighty fine restos and proud owners who would like to showcase their efforts.
Tony & Susan here, Vary nice boat and great to hear Teresa give a review.
Great review! With the plumb bow, and flat/ round bottom, I would expect this boat to pound/ slam going upwind in meter+ seas? Any thoughts on upwind/ heavy weather sea kindliness/ comfort vs. a V shaped hull with a raked bow?
SWEET Ride for Sure🙏
Beautiful wood work
Not sure why you guys dropped off my UA-cam home screen. I haven't seen you guys in awhile. Glad to see you back on again. I missed you guys.
It’s nice, I’m not sure if I would buy one new without knowing the company is sound, and I totally agree with you Terysa the rear hatch would be a pain in the azz, you can open it under way, and it’s completely in the way at anchor, eg fishing, swimming, raising and lowering the tender..
Twin rudders...double edged sword....you crack me up, haha
Great review, thank you. I would like your opinion on the Kraken50. Cheers
Beautiful for sure....I remember the couple from Distant shores mentioned that working on the systems was a major problem especially under the saloon table. Very small hatches and you had to work upside down to work on the systems....Almost impossible to get to major red Flag in my opinion. But she is beautiful !!!
hope you to review a sirius sailing yacht. Always enjoy watching your videos! THANKS!
This is my favorite if I was to get a monohull.
I noticed some of the wood work is book matched with the grain running straight through cabinets, doors, bulkheads. yet others (which really stand out) are completely different grains, different veneer. the eyes go right to it after seeing other parts running through & matching.
maybe it's just me since I built many yachts in my lifetime.
Hope you're able to review the Amel 50 or 60!
I'm wondering if it makes sense, in your analysis of these monohulls, to provide data as to velocity made good (vmg) or SOG, ie. at various wind angles and various wind speeds; say direct downwind, beam reach, close hauled, etc. to give us some idea as to performance. Just a suggestion. Another great video sir!!
'sir'?
Couple of Distant Shores 3 shots in there?
This is a lot like the Halberg, like a swing keel version, proper go anywhere boat.
definitely a go-anywhere boat and yes, some DS shots in there, well spotted (and yes, we asked permission! 😊)
@@sailingrubyrose I never doubted you for a moment! 😉
Will there be more RR2 construction series videos? They are so great to follow. ⛵️
There certainly will be! Next build update coming out in a few weeks. Patrons are getting weekly build updates, and public videos are resuming beginning of July
I like how the new Swan is dismissed for its flat transom, but here it's no problem.. ;)
Lovely boat! I question where one would be able to put solar panels.
Most monohulls place solar panels either on a stern arch or, as we did on RR, install flexible ones on top of the bimini.
They point high but they are not fast you say! Is it the reason why you went for the Seawind or is there other reasonsm. 😃
Can’t afford this but can the seawind 1370? She’s certainly a beauty.
Discovery will be relieved they got Theresa doing the review after Nick destroyed Hallberg Rassey's share price.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Nice Video! Hope you can make a Video on the sirius 35ds and 40ds. And maybe Even the 31ds. I am really interested in your opinión on These boats.
We've had loads of requests for the Sirius 40ds, will try and make that happen.
@@sailingrubyrose amazing!!!
It is not surprising companies like Southerly find it challenging to stay in business. Fantastic boat, but when you start to look at the value for the dollars you are spending compared with other options, it just isn't there. We spent a lot of time aboard this boat in Dusseldorf and it is great, but when you can purchase a new 45'-50' performance catamaran made with better materials for the same price, the market for these is going to continue to shrink...and the price will go up, which is too bad because I really liked it.
They’re also really expensive to build, partly because of the swing keel but mostly because they’re built in the UK and are a premium product, so profit margin is really slim.
@@sailingrubyrose Boat building isn’t a business for the faint of heart! So would you really rather sail this around the world vs. the 1370? I’d take the Seawind in a heartbeat (plus the $500k you’d save), but I understand the allure of the Southerly and what it brings to the table.
We like the cockpit hatch! But yes, keep it closed when underway. Gorgeous yacht!
Can you tell that YES, we have been drenched in seawater through our cockpit hatches while underway!? Fun times 😒
She's a beautifully built boat. Time to buy a lottery ticket.
She's fantastic. If only they were still building them!
@@sailingrubyrose Ocean Shipyard limited are building the southerly 42 and 48.
So here is what I don’t understand… most cats have the entire cockpit covered and provide protection at the helm station(s). But monohulls almost never provide the same. Why??
The music sounds like its from a melancholy ghost story, movie/tv show :)
All their boats come with free lost soul ghosts.
LOL! Not quite the vibe we were aiming for! 😆
Still like the reviews BUT without your scoring matrix they do feel more like a Tour than your older and in my humble opinion far better catamaran reviews 👍🏼
The scoring system was very good! And the cat reviews were probably more in depth with sail area, performance graphs under different wind speeds/directions, which were great. I liked the 'Value for Money' aspect, too because you could work out the cost of adding Li batteries, maybe electric motor etc or whatever tickles your fancy. What does the galley have as standard - fridge, freezer, water-maker?
But they are still independent, honest, reasonable, well thought out reviews
I miss the "Nick Rant" !! Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!
That "soft spot" you mention is probably caused by the water getting to the balsa wood core in the top sides.
When are you going to update on RR2?
Patrons are getting weekly build updates, next public video update on the RR2 build a few weeks away. Not long now 😊
I am really in confusion …what to choose a monohull or a catamaran . I mean these mono hull costs a million dollar and for that much money one can buy outremer 55 . I don’t know which is better
Did nick do the script, great review, do not look back but forward
Just to clarify, are you asking if Nick scripted my voiceover? No, believe it or not, I have a brain in my head and actually do know a thing or two about boats, sailing and living aboard.
@@sailingrubyrose I do not under estimate your boating experience , but your reviews have the same bench mark as nicks. Still a great review
Nick, I'm confused as to why you say that boats with broad transoms sail less well downwind. One of the known issues with narrow sterns and downwind sailing is the death roll, the lack of form stability being the reason. Stern sections that broaden rapidly as the yacht heels vastly reduce this characteristic and allow downwind sailing in a much more controlled and comfortable way. You've obviously had experience that contradicts this, can you comment?
I noted Nick's review of the Rassy and now the Discovery - basically the same hull shape but very different reviews...Umm A little UK bias?
@@bobjohns8914
'Sailing with Thomas' has a newish Bavaria 55 which he sails single handed, it's a typical modern wide sterned boat but he's been getting 12-14 knots downwind in some boisterous conditions, all looking very well controlled and clearly fun. This is what they do so well, hence my confusion with Nick's comments. Boats are being designed like this because they have no real downsides i.e. better performance all round and much more space.
When can we see you in Vietnam with SEAWIND again
We'll start putting out RR2 build updates again in a few weeks, our patrons already get weekly build updates but the public videos are still a few weeks away. 👍
Why is it a benefit to be able to beach the yacht?
In coastal areas with a large tidal range the ability to anchor without worrying about ending up on your side is not to be underestimated. You can get closer in, choose less crowded spots, maintain and check on the hull between tides.
Its more that your boat is nice and level when you beach it, than can you beach it.
ME LIKEY ❤️👍🌴
Nice boat, I wonder why all yards go bankrupt these days? The demand is probably going down due to the coming recession. For somewhat more money you can get a Dutch custom aluminium explorer sail vessel, with lifting keel and all.
Yes, I think the profit margins are extremely slim for companies such as Discovery, particularly since they're building in the UK. Looks like the Southerly 42, 48 and the Discovery 50 catamaran will continue to be built by another shipyard which is great news.
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What is the price? He said he would purchase if he had the money or you win the lottery. 😲
The price is revealed at 8:58.
Have they not stopped building as gone into administration
yeah, I think the boats that were under construction when Discovery went into liquidation are being completed by another shipyard, but I don't think they're operational. I hope someone buys the moulds and restarts construction because there's not many swing keel boats like this on the market.
@@sailingrubyrose such a shame, I think some offer centre boards now rather than swing keel, oyster ( on there smaller yachts) Garcia etc
@@sailingrubyrose I heard a rumour from a southerly owner in Chichester that Northshore had acquired a mold. Can anyone confirm that?
I have to differ with you guys on twin rudders. I do not believe any true blue water cruiser should have them. As you mentioned at the outset, they're totally exposed, no keel never mind skeg protecting them and double the opportunity for catastrophic failure.
The WEAK link on this boat is me. 🤯😩👊🤣😂
🚨Just a heads up🚨
I’m seeing numerous catamaran sailing channels having catastrophic issue/failure with their bulkheads, particularly on Lagoon 40 to 45’s, maybe before your boat builders close in Ruby Rose II, they can add some bulkhead reinforcements or at least you can ask the manufacturer to warranty against possible failure.
-concerned viewer
Lovely boat! Hopefully someone with some money and business sense can pick up the Discovery Yard assets and keep the company going.
Sure would like to hear your opinion of the Kraken 50
you sure its not a Southerly
I find a bit of hypocrisy in reviling teak decks, while employing lithium batteries. From what I understand, lithium batteries are very detrimental to the environment, and there is a questionable human rights aspect to them as well. Lithium batteries are not exactly made from renewable sources. China is not exactly a benevolent nation.
Rebuke aside, I really enjoy your videos, especially the boat review. Best wishes to both of you, Steve.
You have a fair point, but as a counterpoint, batteries are a necessity for a boat. Modern tech means lithium is the best you can get for a modern cruiser. I am also typing this using a phone with a lithium battery.
A teak deck isn’t necessary or modern
Came here to see the mechanism and was disappointed
Did I miss the storage? Spending a million dollars I would expect some good storage and that engine access is a negative. I don't like yoga.
"Go Anywhere" ?
I don't feel comfortable taking a grp boat to Antarctica
the Garcia Exploration boats would be a better choice
Sure, I agree. But HR's have sailed to Patagonia (not antartica as far as I'm aware?) but yes, I'm with you.
how can a boat builder go broke in this sales market?
Horribly expensive boat for what it is: a 48 footer.
Come on guys, enough of the gap fillers lets have more about Ruby Rose 2.
Lost me at 1MM pounds, that's absurd
Sorry Nick but disagree, there is no such thing as the best/perfect or whatever other titles you wish to use for a yacht. Every boat is a compromise and everyone’s requirements are different. Swing keels cost more to manufacture and are only of any use if you need to venture into shallow waters. Explain why only few manufacturers build swing keels and many have gone bust. Describing boats isn’t too different than cars. The best and most expensive super car in the world is useless for a trip to the supermarket.
I think Nick has gone beyond his knowledge is these reviews. I'm no fan of the modern Vendee inspired cruising boats. Nor am I a fan of the current range of boats where the design brief is driven by internal volume. I think those boats are awful. But, I think Nick's rational for his reviews rings hollow and not technically quite right. Also, why would i listen to reviews by a man whose moved on to catamarans? I'd far prefer he focus on his new build and why he's passionate about that.
You don’t have to listen. It is, as stated an opinion piece.
But I know monohulls far better than I know catamarans. The entire review series we made is about discovering catamarans and their sailing Characteristics. All the discussion with naval architects was designed to educate where I clearly had no knowledge.
However……… I know monohulls. I’ve spent 20 years in boatyards. My friends are mostly shipwrights and I’ve earned my stripes across multiple oceans and living on board for 7 years.
So yeah, we are moving onto a catamaran, but it doesn’t diminish the knowledge base.
You are however making a fair point. Why would you listen? I have no answer except that I give everyone. The internet is awash with information. Some good and some bad. Make your choices, back up your decisions using peer reviewed information and be balanced
@@sailingrubyrose Hi Nick. "i dont have to listen...." But I want to listen. I just don't agree and think your a little over your skis right now. I watched a Yachting World review by Toby Hodges of the Beneteau First 53. It was such a horrible boat (see your criticisms in general) and his review was so lack luster. I think he felt the same way you and I do. So I get what your saying. And I wonder why I'm disagreeing with you. :) I just see people reviewing mono hulls for all their multi hull features and then criticizing them for the bad characteristics that result from trying to provide those features. Lets be honest. A mono hull is not a multi hull and visa versa. Any attempt to make one the other is likely to end up with the worst of both.
Anyway, look forward to you next video