I’ve a cylindrical mower which is now ready for a ride in a wheelbarrow! While I’m fit for my age, 70 this year, I’m probably going for a rotary this time which is lighter to handle, but I like stripes!, plus rotary mowers are a lot cheaper! I like my lawns, front and back, so I’ve a treatment company come in 4/annum to apply various treatments. Thanks for your videos, I’m now a subscriber.
Hi there, I live in Perth, Western Australia and a year ago bought the Allett Liberty 43. Used a rotary mower for 50 years, but decided to make a change to a cylinder mower. Fantastic mower and it has made a big difference to my lawn, which the rotary mower didn’t do. The only thing I’m disappointed in is that we do not have a service agent in Perth. There is only one agent in Melbourne.
Well thanks to following your advice and buying stuff through your links everything has come together, the scarifying, treatments and over seeding and top dressing have produced a great lush green lawn. And to top it off I bought a nice Atco cylinder mower which yesterday painted some nice stripes on the lawns. Cheers Matt I couldn't have done it without you mate.
The Allett is speaking to you (in a whispered low voice), “…Matt your garden must be Herbaceous borders only, you know how I feel about my front box.” It’s really a little dictator but we love them all the same! Great video!
I wanted a new cordless lawnmower with a roller as my current one doesn't have one. Watching your videos while you were using your bosch made my mind up for me until I saw the Allett liberty 35 but it was just a bit too pricey so I got the bosch and after watching this video I'm glad I did. All my reasons for concern about the allett and all the positives of the bosch are in the video. So thanks very much for helping me with my decision and by the way the bosch cuts great and gives some pretty decent stripes 👍
Great video. Most of the time I’m in a hurry so use a Petrol rotary, but sometimes I get out an antique Qualcast Punch EP electric cylinder. The cylinder handles the bumps better and is less likely to scalp at lower heights, but it takes at least twice as long.
I keep saying this at the moment, but it’s really pleasing to see cylinder mowers make a come back (both here and abroad). I don’t know anyone (personally) who uses them, I think everyone associates them with the old things they had to drag around as a kid, which definitely doesn’t help. The UK is a great place for it too, great growing condition mean even if you don’t do a great job of it, the lawn can still look great. In regards to moving them, they are a bit of a pain in the ****. I’d recommend moving it on the front roller, can’t really do any damage and it saves from the cringe of rolling the perfect cylinder over concrete 😂
I’ve just purchased the 14L classic after years with a top quality rotary mower and I can honestly say the difference is incredible. If your serious about lawn care the a cylinder mower is a must.
I've always wanted a cylinder mower. I go over the lawn twice with a rotary and it always fills half a grass box on the 2nd cut. Even at the same height setting as the first.
This video came at the right moment. I'm just sowing a new lawn in Sussex and deliberating which type of mower to get. Primarily good striping and non petrol are my focal points so maybe I'll look at the Lyberty model. Thanks.
Some good insights there. The transportation from storage could be an issue for some. I have recently purchased the smaller brother of the bosch 43li, namely the 37li when homebase where I live were selling them tool only for fifty quid! It's very similar as would be expected. Stripes the lawn up well on higher settings so overall very happy. But alas the cylinder bug has bitten and are now eyeing up the best of the British built push cylinder mowers from yesteryear.......... The ransomes ajax mk5 or ransomes certes!
I did really used to like my longer grass too but I also started to really enjoy the stripes and cleaner cut from the allett. Should also bear in mind the grass needs a fert because I've been hold off till after the renno. I'm going to keep the front lawn longer and the back short I think for now
How you finding the maintenance with reel, you having to cut the grass more frequently etc to stay within the 1/3 rule compared with the higher cut of the rotary.
No i found it find to cut at 25mm or 32mm. I was mowing weekly and in peak twice a week anyway so its been fine really. The growth has slowed right off now though so we will see. Shouldn't change too much in terms of growth though whichever one I pick
I’m in the market for a battery powered lawnmower this year. Any advice? I know the battery can be an issue but that’s fine- something quality, easy to transport and lightweight is key for me...
The bocsh is amazing. Lightweight not maintenance the battery lasts ages (only ran out after mot charging all of winter and a few mowers before). Couldn't reccomend it enough
When I moved in I just turfed the middle area. I don't have a video for it bit yes they are a little lower, more by coincidence than design although it's worked out well
The Bosch has served you well and has cut your lawn brilliantly but the Allett is something else. The difference is chalk and cheese. But of course, as in most things, you get what you pay for. The Allett is considerably more expensive compared to the Bosch.
Yeah im not going to retire it. It will be interesting to see how we get on in the wetter months, yes the lawn won't need doing as much but also its not forgiving due to the weight after heavy rain
What is the difference between the Atco Balmoral 14sk and the Qualcast Classic 35s, apart from the engine. How much would you expect to pay for a good Balmoral.
Do you do the initial cut with the Bosch and then finish off with the Allett, from the demo you seemed to be collecting very few cuttings in the Alletts grass box. Perhaps it is also worth doing a price comparison between these two machines so people can see the range in cost between the two.
Just a thought, but could you not remove the box, lift the bar and then do an edging pass which would allow you to get closer to the sleepers, before putting it back on and then carrying on?
Its actually the side the machine that hits aswell Steve, that side has the drive mechanism in it which pushes the blade over a few cm from the edge profile of the machine. Nice idea though
In my opinion your grass looked WAY better and WAY healthier when it was at 2 ‘’ or 3 ‘’ the reel mower cut’s nice an all but the Rotary mower made your lawn look top’s ! 👍
Hi, as Matt mentioned Webb do three manual mowers. I’ve got the h18 which is great and leaves nice stripes, or you have a smaller one with a front and rear roller too for smaller lawns.
If you don't have a rear roller lawn mower, could you just buy a normal lawn roller fill it with a bit of water and go over the area to give a striped finish?
@@GardenLawncareGuy I've read a lot saying rollers compact the ground too much so doesn't allow absorbing of water. Surely they mean real heavy rollers not ones that probably weigh the same as a lawn mower roller?
The Allett would be to much hassle for me as it's petrol I just don't like them, the finish is second to none but is it really worth it they cost a small fortune too, mine is just the basic flymo 300 so no stripes but gives a nice looking green lawn with a good finish I keep the blades sharp and have a spare swapping them every half a dozen cuts, I don't put all those chemicals or feeds on it either I just water it regular aerate it and scarify it I do keep some grass seed at home as I have a dog and her urine kills the lawn I must be doing something right as I have had several comments from people about how good my lawn looks and asking me to do there's, I initially have premier lawns to thank for that and several others like yourself for giving tips on you tube of what to do and when, for the average joe like myself a basic mower is good enough for the lawn care Pro,s who landscape for a living I fully understand the Allett is probably a must.
The cyclinder mower gives a far better finish but then its far more expensive and so is the maintenance, including blade sharpening and engine servicing, maybe when doing the comparison,running costs could have been included. I have the corded version of the Bosch and the Windsor cylinder mower which I love but my lawn isn't really big enough for the cylinder so it hardly gets used, which is a waste
Good point Eddie, I should have mentioned it but I'm planning to do three more videos in this series one on running costs as there is alot to cover there, one on striping and one on buying second hand
Garden Lawncare Guy They should be interesting, I have a year old Hayter Harrier 41 push and was quoted £70 for a service. I voided the warranty and did it myself but not sure I could sharpen a cylinder blade properly.
@@christopherhulme9031 Hi, on some cylinder mowers, you can backlap to sharpen the blade using special paste, there are videos on there showing the technique
Great video, really loving your channel, I wish I could get my lawn looking like yours I’ve spent hours on it this year and its still patchy with weeds. Really like the cylinder mower I would like to see how you store it and maintain it. Cheers
The bosch is a brilliant mower, however it wore out extremely quickly. I guess it's designed for 5 years domestic but the wheels and roller have plastic bearings if you could call them that! I don't know how bosch justify the price.
This is brilliant. I want to be you! I have a Hayter 56. It's a rotary but is heavy enough to leave a great stripe. Problem is it is very unwieldy and expensive to service. Thank you for the videos!
Hi peter, I actually got it second hand - I'd been looking at a new liberty and then this popped up not too far from me and I just decided to go for it!
Garden Lawncare Guy definitely better value than a new liberty. I got a 2nd hand Suffolk Punch 14inch. Needed blades sharpened but in great condition otherwise. Bargain 👌
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I’ve a cylindrical mower which is now ready for a ride in a wheelbarrow! While I’m fit for my age, 70 this year, I’m probably going for a rotary this time which is lighter to handle, but I like stripes!, plus rotary mowers are a lot cheaper! I like my lawns, front and back, so I’ve a treatment company come in 4/annum to apply various treatments.
Thanks for your videos, I’m now a subscriber.
Thanks Henry, welcome to my channel and good luck with your lawn in 2021 👍
Hi there, I live in Perth, Western Australia and a year ago bought the Allett Liberty 43. Used a rotary mower for 50 years, but decided to make a change to a cylinder mower. Fantastic mower and it has made a big difference to my lawn, which the rotary mower didn’t do. The only thing I’m disappointed in is that we do not have a service agent in Perth. There is only one agent in Melbourne.
I really enjoying using my cylinder mower too when I changed from the rotary!
Another great video Matt.
Well thanks to following your advice and buying stuff through your links everything has come together, the scarifying, treatments and over seeding and top dressing have produced a great lush green lawn. And to top it off I bought a nice Atco cylinder mower which yesterday painted some nice stripes on the lawns. Cheers Matt I couldn't have done it without you mate.
Great feedback and thanks for all the support, good news story 👍
The Allett is speaking to you (in a whispered low voice), “…Matt your garden must be Herbaceous borders only, you know how I feel about my front box.” It’s really a little dictator but we love them all the same! Great video!
Haha it certainly is
I wanted a new cordless lawnmower with a roller as my current one doesn't have one. Watching your videos while you were using your bosch made my mind up for me until I saw the Allett liberty 35 but it was just a bit too pricey so I got the bosch and after watching this video I'm glad I did. All my reasons for concern about the allett and all the positives of the bosch are in the video. So thanks very much for helping me with my decision and by the way the bosch cuts great and gives some pretty decent stripes 👍
Yeah its a great mower. Some people don't like it, but I personally love the portability and performance of it
Great video. Most of the time I’m in a hurry so use a Petrol rotary, but sometimes I get out an antique Qualcast Punch EP electric cylinder.
The cylinder handles the bumps better and is less likely to scalp at lower heights, but it takes at least twice as long.
I have found the cylinder to go smoothly over my lawn too even on the bumpy bits with dips
I keep saying this at the moment, but it’s really pleasing to see cylinder mowers make a come back (both here and abroad). I don’t know anyone (personally) who uses them, I think everyone associates them with the old things they had to drag around as a kid, which definitely doesn’t help. The UK is a great place for it too, great growing condition mean even if you don’t do a great job of it, the lawn can still look great. In regards to moving them, they are a bit of a pain in the ****. I’d recommend moving it on the front roller, can’t really do any damage and it saves from the cringe of rolling the perfect cylinder over concrete 😂
Yeah will, I hate that noise on the back, like nails on a chalkboard!
Garden Lawncare Guy 😂 it really is
I put a removable wooden Board down the side depth of the grass so it Does not stuff the grass on the side keeping the Wheels level on the mower
Only starting out on lawn care, what would you recommend on a middle of the road lawn mower. Belter of a channel btw.
I’ve just purchased the 14L classic after years with a top quality rotary mower and I can honestly say the difference is incredible. If your serious about lawn care the a cylinder mower is a must.
Take a look at the Scarifier cartridge
Amazing bit of kit would recommend 100%
I cant wait to start looking at cartridges - allett if you are watching load me up 🤣
I've always wanted a cylinder mower. I go over the lawn twice with a rotary and it always fills half a grass box on the 2nd cut. Even at the same height setting as the first.
This video came at the right moment. I'm just sowing a new lawn in Sussex and deliberating which type of mower to get. Primarily good striping and non petrol are my focal points so maybe I'll look at the Lyberty model. Thanks.
Would love a liberty 43, you get the full range adjustment on height and battery. The other liberty models also look awesome
Compulsory to have to have high end mower's in Sussex. Check out Swardman, petrol if u have large lawns.
Would the Allett be overkill for a small lawn and newly laid turf of around 16m2 ? nice video cheers
Some good insights there. The transportation from storage could be an issue for some. I have recently purchased the smaller brother of the bosch 43li, namely the 37li when homebase where I live were selling them tool only for fifty quid! It's very similar as would be expected. Stripes the lawn up well on higher settings so overall very happy. But alas the cylinder bug has bitten and are now eyeing up the best of the British built push cylinder mowers from yesteryear.......... The ransomes ajax mk5 or ransomes certes!
Hi mate, I recall you posted about sending your cylinder blades away to a company to be sharpened? Do you have details?
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Is it wrong that I think I prefer your stripes when your grass was a little longer with the Bosch ? I thought your garden looked dark and amazing.
I did really used to like my longer grass too but I also started to really enjoy the stripes and cleaner cut from the allett. Should also bear in mind the grass needs a fert because I've been hold off till after the renno. I'm going to keep the front lawn longer and the back short I think for now
How you finding the maintenance with reel, you having to cut the grass more frequently etc to stay within the 1/3 rule compared with the higher cut of the rotary.
No i found it find to cut at 25mm or 32mm. I was mowing weekly and in peak twice a week anyway so its been fine really. The growth has slowed right off now though so we will see. Shouldn't change too much in terms of growth though whichever one I pick
If you to spend £250 on a petrol lawn mower for pro use a few times a week , what would you buy mate ?
Great video Matt. Not sure if I missed something but I can't see which model of Bosch mower you were using. Can you help please?
Hi Mike rotak 43 li
Thanks for the help, really appreciated.
I’m in the market for a battery powered lawnmower this year. Any advice? I know the battery can be an issue but that’s fine- something quality, easy to transport and lightweight is key for me...
The bocsh is amazing. Lightweight not maintenance the battery lasts ages (only ran out after mot charging all of winter and a few mowers before). Couldn't reccomend it enough
Cool. Thank you. It’s on Amazon for about £300 so will definitely look into it 👍
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Do you have a video on how your made your flower beds? They seem to be lower than the grass area - thanks
When I moved in I just turfed the middle area. I don't have a video for it bit yes they are a little lower, more by coincidence than design although it's worked out well
This is great information! Can I use the Allett machine on new grass turf?
Thank Charlie - yes but not too low
@@GardenLawncareGuy Thanks a lot
The Bosch has served you well and has cut your lawn brilliantly but the Allett is something else. The difference is chalk and cheese. But of course, as in most things, you get what you pay for. The Allett is considerably more expensive compared to the Bosch.
Yeah im not going to retire it. It will be interesting to see how we get on in the wetter months, yes the lawn won't need doing as much but also its not forgiving due to the weight after heavy rain
What is the difference between the Atco Balmoral 14sk and the Qualcast Classic 35s, apart from the engine. How much would you expect to pay for a good Balmoral.
How much is the Bosch mower roughly to buy?
Do you do the initial cut with the Bosch and then finish off with the Allett, from the demo you seemed to be collecting very few cuttings in the Alletts grass box.
Perhaps it is also worth doing a price comparison between these two machines so people can see the range in cost between the two.
Thanks for the suggestions, sometimes I cut with the rotary if too wet or seed heads but rarely finish off after with allet. One or the othet
Hallo, massively overpowered for this small property or?
I enjoy it 😁
Just a thought, but could you not remove the box, lift the bar and then do an edging pass which would allow you to get closer to the sleepers, before putting it back on and then carrying on?
Its actually the side the machine that hits aswell Steve, that side has the drive mechanism in it which pushes the blade over a few cm from the edge profile of the machine. Nice idea though
In my opinion your grass looked WAY better and WAY healthier when it was at 2 ‘’ or 3 ‘’ the reel mower cut’s nice an all but the Rotary mower made your lawn look top’s ! 👍
Would a non-powered cylinder mower (a mower without an engine, you just push it along and it makes the blades go round) do the job just as well?
I've not seen one that does, especially not the cheaper ones. I have heard good things about some of the Web ones though
@@GardenLawncareGuy Thanks. My new lawn will only be about 30-40 m2 so it may be worth getting a non-powered one.
@@GardenLawncareGuy Thanks. My new lawn will only be about 30-40 m2 so it may be worth getting a non-powered one.
Hi, as Matt mentioned Webb do three manual mowers. I’ve got the h18 which is great and leaves nice stripes, or you have a smaller one with a front and rear roller too for smaller lawns.
Nice video, you are slowly staring to appear in it :)
If you don't have a rear roller lawn mower, could you just buy a normal lawn roller fill it with a bit of water and go over the area to give a striped finish?
Yeah or even cheaper try a stiff brush :D
@@GardenLawncareGuy I've read a lot saying rollers compact the ground too much so doesn't allow absorbing of water. Surely they mean real heavy rollers not ones that probably weigh the same as a lawn mower roller?
For my lawn which isn’t flat at all my be the Allett my be too harsh. Sometime next year (2021) maybe in the market for a cordless device.
During the wet weather I've switched back to the bosch cordless, I am a big fan of that mower!
Wow Fantastic thanks very much 😊
Thanks 👍
Good Video as always. You are missing a link to the Allett......
Haha I am indeed, a deal with them would be awesome!
The Allett would be to much hassle for me as it's petrol I just don't like them, the finish is second to none but is it really worth it they cost a small fortune too, mine is just the basic flymo 300 so no stripes but gives a nice looking green lawn with a good finish I keep the blades sharp and have a spare swapping them every half a dozen cuts, I don't put all those chemicals or feeds on it either I just water it regular aerate it and scarify it I do keep some grass seed at home as I have a dog and her urine kills the lawn I must be doing something right as I have had several comments from people about how good my lawn looks and asking me to do there's, I initially have premier lawns to thank for that and several others like yourself for giving tips on you tube of what to do and when, for the average joe like myself a basic mower is good enough for the lawn care Pro,s who landscape for a living I fully understand the Allett is probably a must.
Why does it need to be a powered mower? Any disadvantages to a manual reel mower?
Weight for the stripes bit they still stripe ok the manual mowers and can be good for small areas
Do you have any videos how to change a split stock rubber spark plug caps? I’ve seen so many replacement caps on eBay don’t know which to get
No sorry, don't know myself
Is it for an allet or acto, contact them maybe
@@GardenLawncareGuy qualcast 43s. Looking at all the mowers and ignition coils on eBay they’re a split at the connector.
The cyclinder mower gives a far better finish but then its far more expensive and so is the maintenance, including blade sharpening and engine servicing, maybe when doing the comparison,running costs could have been included. I have the corded version of the Bosch and the Windsor cylinder mower which I love but my lawn isn't really big enough for the cylinder so it hardly gets used, which is a waste
Good point Eddie, I should have mentioned it but I'm planning to do three more videos in this series one on running costs as there is alot to cover there, one on striping and one on buying second hand
Garden Lawncare Guy They should be interesting, I have a year old Hayter Harrier 41 push and was quoted £70 for a service. I voided the warranty and did it myself but not sure I could sharpen a cylinder blade properly.
@@christopherhulme9031 Hi, on some cylinder mowers, you can backlap to sharpen the blade using special paste, there are videos on there showing the technique
Hopefully going to try and make one of them vids on backlapping
Great video, really loving your channel, I wish I could get my lawn looking like yours I’ve spent hours on it this year and its still patchy with weeds. Really like the cylinder mower I would like to see how you store it and maintain it. Cheers
Thanks paul, glad you are enjoying it. Now it the last time to treat the weeds and the perfect time for overseeding to thicken things up
Good one mate
Hi Mick! Good to see you, was after your thoughts on this second hand mower I got. I'll drop you a message
@@GardenLawncareGuy ok mate
The bosch is a brilliant mower, however it wore out extremely quickly. I guess it's designed for 5 years domestic but the wheels and roller have plastic bearings if you could call them that! I don't know how bosch justify the price.
This is brilliant. I want to be you! I have a Hayter 56. It's a rotary but is heavy enough to leave a great stripe. Problem is it is very unwieldy and expensive to service. Thank you for the videos!
Haha thanks James. I do like those hayters, especially the new ones look very smart almost like a stealth jet
Would have been nice to see grass that actually needs cutting
The mower looks like the bat mobile!
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You get a much better cut from the cylinder mower.
You do the lawnmower huh, ???
What do you mean sorry?
@@GardenLawncareGuy this I mean you stupid no understanding me…you do the lawnmower huh, ???
This is like lawn porn
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Hi. Just wondering why you went for the 17 inch Allett over the 14inch?
Hi peter, I actually got it second hand - I'd been looking at a new liberty and then this popped up not too far from me and I just decided to go for it!
Garden Lawncare Guy definitely better value than a new liberty. I got a 2nd hand Suffolk Punch 14inch. Needed blades sharpened but in great condition otherwise. Bargain 👌
Yeah i need some sharps done too both the cassettes need some tlc
Garden Lawncare Guy why the two cassettes btw?
Just came with two, the guy said he was planning to have one in and one being sharpened