Becoming The Bangles. Life, Times & Aftermath.
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- Becoming The Bangles. How local LA band went from early obscurity to become one of the biggest music acts of the 80's. Susanna Hoffs, Vicki & Debbi Peterson, Michael Steele. The Colours, The Bangs, The Paisley Underground, Manic Monday, Walk Like An Egyptian, Eternal Flame, Hero Takes a Fall. Documentary and inside story & LA locations with host Tim P.
Proceeds from this video go to: Big Brothers Big Sisters Of Greater Los Angeles. If you would like to donate go to bbbsla.org/
Photos: Wiki Commons, Rebecca Wilson, Aurelio Jose Barrera, Tabercil, Becky Wilson, Joe Roncetti, Aliza Arredondo, Jan Hammershaug, David Johnson, David Roback.
Thanks to Rachel Macari
Music by Tim P.
I reserve the right to be on occasion, full of it.
I saw the Bangles open for the English Beat on an IRS tour. This was my favorite period of the band as they sounded rougher, fully capable of playing well but with an edge. I loved the show. The Beat, too. But before the show Susanna and Annette walked into the indie record store that I managed, and I was mightily impressed that they did not act as stars. Instead we talked punky 60s music, and they name checked band and tunes that I loved (Turtles 'Outside Chance' - a non-hit, Paul Revere and the Raiders, New Zealand's La De Das (!), and others. I still liked them later, especially 'Egyptian,' but they had become too slick and produced. And the first CBS album covers were pretty unappealing. But I did go see the "Doll Revolution" tour = and was a bit disappointed.
Right on. I saw them right after that tour and they were great.
I actually host a Bangles radio show on Sunday nights, called the "BangleSunday Funday Hour". We don't only play the Bangles music, but all the bands the members were in. So Annette's Blood on the Saddle, Medicine, The Ringling Sisters. Vicki's bands, The Action Skulls, Continental Drifters, and so on. It's a total celebration of all five Bangles members over the years. The help that Annette Zilinskas and Vicki Peterson have given, including stories and music is just insane. Two of the most wonderful people I've ever met. Forget just what great musicians both of them are. If you get the chance to ever meet them, it's the coolest thing ever.
I honestly liked their sound better in the early day. I got to see them in Nashville in 1983 at a club called Cantrell's. I was 22 at the time and I had never heard of them. My best friend had heard them and got the EP. We went to all kinds of concerts together. To this day, it was still one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Certainly best club concert. Annette Zilinskas was still on bass and they were the best garage/punk band I've ever heard live. I went to see them again in 1987 when they were bigger, but the music had changed. It just wasn't the same. They had something special in the early days.
@@jamiethornton6101 Nice people rule!
@@AnntheClassicRockGirl It is a matter of taste, but I agree. I am not the biggest fan of glitzy production work - although Walk Like an Egyptian is the exception that proves the rule.
The Ides of March are upon us and with it comes one of the all-time legendary LA bands, formerly known as The Bangs and more recently The Bangles. Let me know what you think!
Ides of March had a hit in 1970 called Vehicle.. Now that's a great tune!
Right you are!
Tim, as a music nerd and industry veteran, I absolutely adore your videos. They’re incredibly informative and I consider you the, “Anthony Bourdain” of the LA music scene. Bravo 🙌
Well put. I second that! 🤘🤘👍
Except I never get fed! Thanks much, it is truly gratifying to hear.
@@CathodeRayNipplez I third it. Nick
Tim. What are some other good Power Pop bands besides The Last and The Nerves?
@@user-gi6js3pj2v I always liked 20/20 and then the offshoots of The Nerves. Paul Collins Beat is fantastic and of course so are The Plimsouls.
Bangles play great music, and were fun live. It didn't hurt that they were easy on the eyes.
The Bangles just made utterly enjoyable fun music that still holds up well today. I think they were (well, are) a great band.
Couldn't agree with you more!
That was good, the places they played still exist amazing.
Nobody does these vlogs better than you Tim.
Thank you old chum. Appreciated!
I LOVED The Bangles! Their first EP was my favorite! I had it on cassette and when my daughter was a baby, she got into the stereo cabinet (lol) and I caught her happily pulling out the tape from that cassette!
This was 2000 so it was hard to track another one down for years 😆
Susanna Hoffs was my boyhood crush growing up and even now in her 60's she's still beautiful!
Great job on this video and story! The Bangs/Bangles really ended up having two different sounds. That pure 60's garage rock sound of the original lineup "The Bangs" and the more polished/pop sound of The Bangles with Micki. Both were great and I'm shocked this band doesn't even have a nomination of the R&R HOF yet. Their Billboard chart success was greater than the GoGo's and people didn't even know about them in the early days. There was no internet or cell phones. Such a fantastic band, made up of five key members over the years who never gave the band a black eye.
I still like the sound of the early days better. Hearing them in 1983 and 1987, I would take the early Bangles over the mainstream Bangles.
Great video. Walk Like An Egyptian has to be one of the most catchy songs ever. I was living and working in the San Francisco area at the time it came out. It was a rare moment of joy in a pretty sad time in my life. I was interested to find out the Suzanna Hoff attended the University of California in Berkeley. Although I was never a student there my parents met there and created me, so to speak. They are now long deceased. My parents were UC Berkeley students towards the end of the Second World War.
I'm going up to Berkeley to shoot a vid in a couple weeks. I Can't wait! PS: The Bangles shot "Hero Takes A Fall" on Market Street in SF.
@@RockessentialTim Thanks for the reply. I was probably living there when they shot the Hero Takes a Fall Video. I'll have to check dates, etc. At the time i was working as an Arborist for the National Park Service based at Fort Mason near the SF Marina. I left there for the Central Coast in San Luis Obispo County in December of 1987. I ended up coming to Arizona for a job with Arizona State Parks and have been here since 1992. The last time I was in the San Francisco area was August of 2016 with my father in law.
I’m not a huge Bangles fan, but this was an excellent documentary. Very well done and well presented.
Thank you!
Everybody wanted Suzanne Hoff back in the day…
She’s still a very beautiful woman!
Thanks Tim for this cool vid about the Bangles. I never got to see them in concert unfortunately. Saw the Go Gos twice but not the Bangles. I love their work and yours as always.
I learn so much about the music I love from your videos. Thanks again Tim~ Anthony
Saw them as the Bangs and this young LA Mod was hooked. Then becoming friends and neighbors with Debbi later in life was the icing on the cake. Such a kind, talented person.
I got to see them once as the Bangs and I was so impressed with their talent. I seem to recall them playing Hazy Shade Of Winter even though it didn't come out by them for years.
My aunt got to see them at Cantrell's in Nashville in April of 1983, shortly after the name change. But Annette Zilinskas was still on bass and they still had that 60's rock and roll sound in those days. Something I love about the original line up. She told me that people were talking for months about how amazing they were. She said it's still one of her top 3 favorite concerts/band club shows she's ever heard. She's been to over 100 concerts. So that really says something. She said the raw garage sound they had in those days was so great, I can't explain how great they were. @@RockessentialTim
Agree totally. @@jamiethornton6101
that was A+ Tim! you always do a great job!
Thanks!
You forgot to mention that the inspiration for their final name change was because they were such big fans of The Beatles, so they merged the names "Bangs" and "Beatles" to become The Bangles.
I didn't forget to mention it, I just didn't know it. Love it!
Great work as usual; love the whole LA music history thing!
Right on, thanks!
Loved this video! The Bangles were the soundtrack to my childhood ❤x
Right on!
Great Video! I have always loved THE BANGLES😁I first saw them live in the summer of 1984 at a club in Palo Alto, Ca. I think it was the KEYSTONE. IT was their vocals , Harmonies all around. I loved all their voices but Susannah has that special timbre in her voice that just is unforgettable. They should be in the RNR HOF in my opinion.
I couldn't agree with you more!
Well done... can't say I was a big fan of the Bangles but I love the back story. You have great content and your love for the music is evident.
Very cool video documentary. As a fan who loved the Paisley Underground scene and their first full length album - All Over The Place - I wish they had released a couple more albums in that musical vein.
I think a lot of folks assumed that their career started with Manic Monday and there is just so much more. I love All Over The Place too. I got to see them play not long after that on a club bill with The Replacements. Even way back then I remember them playing Hazy Shade Of Winter.
One of the best bands of the 80s.
Totally!
Awesome Tim! I’m from Long Beach and was stationed in West Germany at the time. One of my favorite bands then, I saw them in 1986 at the epic 3-day festival Rock am Ring at the Nurburgring race track. We were right at the stage and I was right in front of Sue most of the concert. I have a few great pics of her sitting on the stage jamming. I was melting ha. I’m going to share this with my buddy who was there! He had told me about them and their LA history. They were great on stage. My favorite song was always Liverpool. 🇬🇧 Our Army unit would fly there so we had that connection ha. Peace and love to you Tim! 😎
Great story. Liverpool is there most underrated song.
Yep, I was in love with Susanna too. They looked like a good live band and would have liked to have seen them in a club.
Great stuff as always, thanks for keeping LA rock history alive.
Thanks Steve!
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Great video!! I Love The Bangles they're a great band. In Your Room, Manic Monday, and their rendition of Hazy Day Of Winter are some of my favorites💖💯
In making the vid I've been listening to them a lot again and they were so damn good. I also really like their lo-fi early stuff like The Real World and Mary Street. I agree, they were (are) great!
Your videos are very well done. I was born and raised in Los Angeles and my Dad was an editor for the daily variety and would have loved your channel
Right on, thank you. I would have loved to see what he thought too.
Another terrific, fun, informative vid - thanks!
Thanks!
Dude! I ALWAYS enjoy your videos, but you know that. Video quality is OUTSTANDING! And I laughed when you showed the back of an album with the address where you could write to The Bangles...8033 Sunset Blvd. Same P.O. drop box address I had when I first moved to L.A. in 1991. Thanks for the memories, as it were!
Was that the PO Box Mail place that was across from where Guitar Center on Sunset is now?
@@RockessentialTim Right there at Crescent Heights, across from what had been the old Virgin Mega Store (or Schwab's Pharmacy, if we go back that far!)
I really appreciate these videos because I find myself introduced to bands I didn’t know of as well. Also, getting history lessons on places in LA where they frequented and made history is so cool. The way they got connected to Prince is so fascinating to know!
The point it always drives home for me is in reality how small the music community actually is. This band's whole career revolved around working and collaborating with other artists and its why I think they had such great music. Thanks for the cool comment.
Thanks Tim! As always a great and informative video. Can’t wait till the next one will be aired 😊
Thanks much. Always working on an idea.
Great stuff, Tim !
Greatest Band
I love Susanna even more now that then. What a fox.
What a great video! Love the walk-and-talk on-location. Adds so much colour to what could be a pedestrian story.
Glad you liked it. Right on, thanks!
Vicki is married to John Cowsill, another of my favorite bands.
Don't they play in a band together too?
Thanks! Tim Nice work. Thanks for the history!🎶🎸🥁
Right on, thanks!
Guess I better hit the notification bell. Thanks Tim for 'another incredibly cool story.' Any chance you could do something on Los Lobos? Different part--but still an essential part--of the LA scene perhaps...
That's actually a really good idea. Another band that doesn't always get their due!
@@RockessentialTim They probably played a different set of venues...
No, they played Raji's and Al's Bar just like everybody did at first.
Los Lobos and the Blasters were two of the most original bands that ever came out in the US. The Blasters literally re created the best tones, lead runs, melodies, all of it from the the 50S to early 60s. NO ONE EVER CAME CLOSE. Los LOBOS are simply the most multi versed original band of many genres ive ever seen. The scope of the music they have written is enormous. And just a real cool bunch of down to earth good dudes who have shown more brilliance overall to me JMO than ANY BAND spanning the periods they have produced music in.
Thanks Tim , ya' brought me home .
"Play it loud and that's what I mean"
The journeys you take us on are always wonderful. 🎉
Love making them, thanks!
Cool. Thanks.
Right on.
Yesss a new video very informative 😊
Thank you!
Another great video. I really enjoy your casual delivery and your visits to the locations. You could just as easily pop photos up of the places, but seeing them the way they look now makes the story that you weave even more enlightening. Can't wait for the next story. Thanks for all of your work.
Thanks for cool comment. Being as I live here in LA it just makes sense to drive or in some cases even walk to the locay. Besides, it gets me the hell out of the house once in awhile!
@@RockessentialTim You are very welcome!!! I lived in Hawthorne a long, long time ago; so I really enjoy seeing the locations. Thanks again!!😀
Their video of walk like an Egyptian was all over mtv when I was a kid. Great song.
hi Tim👋 thanks so much for sharing this , I really appreciate the hard work you do to get these videos put together ✌️🇺🇸✌️🇨🇦✌️
It is my pleasure to make them. Thanks Mark!
Thanks again Tim for the awesome video of Hollywood music history, great stuff!!!
Thanks much!
Though I failed to realize it when my job entailed playing this band's songs as current hits on the radio, now it's plain to me how simultaneously retro and cutting edge they were. Looking back, "Hero Takes a Fall" seems particularly prescient.
Retro and cutting edge. Perfectly put.
Love The Bangles. Mazzy Star was great too. Tim, do a video on another iconic "girl group", The Go, Go's, please.
Right on.
The Bangles were great. Susanna Hoff's voice and catchy harmonies and guitars. I seem to recall reading that Prince said he wrote Manic Monday by basically putting new lyrics to his own hit 1999. They do seem to fit that melody.
I learned a lot in this video! It’s wild that Maria McKee responded to Susannah’s ad. Their styles were similar but different. Susannah was a fan of Love, which I think was mentioned in the ad, and Maria’s brother, Bryan MacLean, was in that band.
I just learned a lot from your comment. Love it!
I remember when John Lennon was shot. The Greatest Rock & Roll radio station ever 94.7 KMET. Played nothing but Beatle songs for the rest of the week 24/7. R.I.P. KMET Feb.14, 1987 the day that Real Rock & Roll died in Southern California.
I’ve really enjoyed these videos. You’ve earned a new subscriber.
Right on, thanks and thanks for the sub!
Fascinating. I never knew their history. I suppose I assumed they had been 'manufactured'. I got that wrong. This is my favourite music channel. Nick
Favorite comment of the day. Thanks Nick!
thanks for presenting such an interesting story Tim... you are now hosting a 'cult classic' youtube channel. thumbs up. You have to clone yourself so you can make more videos. So many stories to tell...
Right on, thanks! I've always aspired to be a cult leader :)
Hero Takes a Fall I loved and introduced me to Them
Power Pop at its highest level!
Great stuff! Thanks!
Right on, thanks!
Ah yes another great video by Professor Tim. Such a great learning experience and fun to watch. Can’t wait for your next lesson. Thanks Professor until next time.
Thanks much!
I love waking up to see you’ve done another video. Cuppa morning coffee and watch! Loved this, thanks Tim, you are a legend!
At my age I'm loving just waking up. Thanks for the cool comment!
@@RockessentialTim ha ha I hear ya 👌🤣
@@rossybink
Another Jimmy Fallon sighting at 00:18
Wow this one is out of left field. I always try to guess what your next video is going to be. Great surprise! I always loved this band, Hoffs still sounds and looks amazing today. You outdid yourself again. I always figured them to be a NY band. Thanks Tim
Thanks much. The music scene the Bangles (they were the Bangs then) came up in was also actually the age specific one that I did so I have some first hand memories of the band. They were always a good band and I think it surprised the hell out of everybody else in the LA music scene when they went to number 1 on the Charts.
another great video and locations - thanks Tim - the “Anthony Bourdain” of the LA music scene.
Ha! If only the places I film at would feed me...
What's not to like about a Ric 610 and a Vox Teardrop bass??? Great band and another on the list I never got to see live. Nice job, Tim!
Always wanted a Teardrop if for nothing else than to hang it on the wall. They are so cool looking!
@@RockessentialTim Totally get that! I lusted after a Vox Phantom for a long time. Paul Reviere and the Raiders drove me a bit insane wanting to be that cool! 🤣
No doubt one of the coolest guitars but my brief experience in playing a 6 string was the action was a half inch over the neck---great for an adept slide player like yourself but not so slick for a lowly strummer like me@@Cliffswanson
I didn't know the Bangles had played with Prince. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Love that song!
Honestly thought I knew everything about The Bangs/Bangles. Boy!, was I wrong. Great vid. Really appreciate the schooling.
Right on, I'm you enjoyed it!
Tim !! Thank you .. alaways enjoy your videos, entetaining and educational ...!!
Thanks, Phil!
Hi Tim, it's Randy. Awesome job on this documentary, as always. Would love it if you make one of your band, the fantastic Flies On Fire. Would also love to get ahold of that background music that you play in these videos. Thanks for all the hard work you do, much appreciated and very insightful. You rock!
Its not spicytunaroll? Hey there Randy, thanks much. I'm a bit of a lazer when it comes to doing anything that requires real effort---like putting out music. I'll get to it one of these days but thanks for asking. In the mean time, keep on rockin in the free world!
Tim.... An fabulous video.... Well done!
Thanks as always!
Great video as always!
I hope you would consider doing one on Concrete Blonde.
Thanks!
Awesome video. Saw the Bangles in the late 80s. Like most people I guess, I knew about the Prince connection but nothing esle about their origin story, assuming they were probably a manufactured band. Thanks for settling the record straight and a look into the scene that fostered them.👍👍
Right on. I saw them only once and it was before they were famous and they were really great.
Hi Tim 👋, thank you for taking us inside Whiskey A GO GO and a glimpse of The Viper Room .👍 Cool! 😎. This video content reminds me of a recent documentary I saw on PBS. It was of the all girl group “Fanny” The Go Go”s had said they themselves put out 3 Ablums, and Fanny had put out 5 albums,But they made it big “.Fanny had never gotten the notoriety they deserved.🎼🎸🎤🎹🎧🏆🏅💿💽📀 Thanks Tim . 🐊
I saw that Fanny documentary too! I loved it. They were a little before my time but I did get to see The Runaways once.
👍👏👏👏🤘 Bro ✌️ great story.
Thanks, Garry!
Saw the "All over the place" tour at Magic Mountain.
Snuck into the Greek Theater for the Different Light tour.
And was at the instore Tower Records ( Sunset ) for the premier of Doll Revolution. ( short set.)
Finally, maybe 2013 (?) at the Fonda , the Paisley Underground show : all four bands played.
Holy shit! I guess it wouldn't be fair to ask you which was the best show?
@@RockessentialTim , Magic Mountain was Solid.
Security showed me the door after a couple songs at the Greek. Tower records show was fun, but short.
The Paisley Under ground show , well.... I pregamed a bit too hard...and watched most of the show with one eye opened and marbles in my mouth as I attempted to sing along .
Did meet the band after the show and had a poster signed.
Saw one of those Paisley shows back in the day. I was impressed, especially with Dream Syndicate.@@DEVOn.A.Skertic
@@RockessentialTim , Dream Syndicate at the Roxy, promo show for the Out of the Grey album.
Great video as usual Man , informative and always enjoyable !
Thanx!
Good stuff
I saw they in 2007 with Abbi Travis on Bass
Absolutely love these videos, tho I cant say I’m a fan of the Bangles. Keep the content coming!
Thanks much. Like I mention in the video, I was lucky enough to see them play back in the day and have been a fan ever since.
Well done, Tim. I always thought of the Bangles as a much more sanitized version of the GTOs. It would have indeed been interesting to see what Frank Zappa could have done with them....
Tim when can we expect ROCKS ESSENTIALS THE LIFE AND TIMES OF TIM IN LA
Now you're really scaring me :)
@@RockessentialTim no kidding I think a lot of people would be interested where’s all this LA history stuff start your a musician we see that I’m a guitar player and a little dirty piano it seems like you lived a lot of years in La
Tim, write a book!
LOL! I'm just a tad too lazy and besides, completely dyslexic!
if you want a book on this look for "All Over the Place - The Rise of the Bangles from the L.A. Underground" by Eric M. Shade on Hozac Books.
There you go!@@ericshade9632
The Palace was where American Bandstand was filmed?
No, I believe Bandstand was filmed at ABC Television which is in Silverlake on Prospect, maybe 2 miles down the road from the Palace.
@@RockessentialTim yep you are right, it was "The Hollywood Palace" show I was thinking of.
I think they did film the Hollywood Palace show there! Its a really great venue but its more or less a dance club now.
@@RockessentialTim ua-cam.com/video/3V8VvEzuQ6Y/v-deo.htmlsi=kFJwLyR0CuriR1BC
Great video but you have the music playing too load when you’re talking especially when you start.
Too loud? Okay, I'll turn it down.
@@RockessentialTim
Thank you.
@@phillipmarlowe0525
I've had a crush on Susanna Hoffs for 40 years 🥰
I'll never forget the day Susanna played me the Prince cassette at her folks house in Brentwood and asked, "Should we record it?"