What led to the DEMISE of Haight Ashbury’s Hippie Society of Peace and Love? 1965 - 1968
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- What led to the DEMISE of Haight Ashbury’s Hippie Society of Peace and Love in the 1960’s? Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin
Imagine living in a free spirited place where you walk outside and hear a loud boisterous laugh. You look over to see Jerry Garcia sitting on the steps of his Victorian house with a group of musicians and friends talking and laughing.
After you stop by for a brief conversation, you head down the street when you come across your neighbor, Janis Joplin who is on her way over to Garcia’s place. After a brief chat you turn the corner and head over to see friends jamming in the basement at their hangout on Page street. Once inside you sit down and have a spirited conversation with Grace Slick and Paul Kanter. After several hours that feel like minutes you are feeling pretty good and you bid them farewell and head down the street to your favorite coffee shop, the Blue Unicorn where you come across a group of hippies singing. It’s another laid back day 1967 in Haight Ashbury as you wonder to yourself what the Summer has in store for you and your neighborhood.
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Charles Manson didn't help things out...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
@@donnahilton471 ''Peace & Love'''
''Summer of love'' BAH!! What a load of BULLSHIT that was!, Look how the world we live in today turned out, Also, The so called ''Hippies'' were jerks
@@donnahilton471 The so called ''Hippie Movement'' of ''Peace and Love'' was hijacked by the thugs and criminals.
If nobody is cleaning the bathrooms and taking care of the garbage, it will all go to hell. Truth.
And WORKING, serving the needs of other humans from food, clean water, clothing on. The need side is unlimited. The WORK side is limited.
Most all the chores of quotidian life fell to women. Many got fed up with the situation, during the incipient period of the feminist movement. Also, women felt vulnerable to the lawlessness and crime.
lets not even mention money here. That is just too much to bear in this context
Harder drugs, creepers, criminal elements, and then the unsustainable theories of perpetual cooperation....now I will see what the documentary said.
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Um...CIA?
@@lemurianchickadd to that list with all other three letter organizations 🧐🤔🙏🏻
@@lemurianchick If you get the chance, read a book about CIA's Dr Sidney Gottlieb titled "Poisoner in Chief". CIA set up two 'free clinics", one on the Lower East Side in Manhattan and the other in the Haight Ashbury. The CIA was convinced the Soviets were into mind control and they countered by trying to use LSD to do the same. The people in the Haight and on the LES they considered as nothing more than scum, so why not use them as human guinea pigs. Because of CIA intervention, I'm convinced people like Charles Manson were constantly released from prison simply because they were useful as CIA lab rats. Gottlieb every bit as evil as Dr Mengele.
@@lemurianchick The CIA angle is well documented. There was an ex New York cop who worked for the agency. He hired a hooker to bring guys to an apartment where he dosed them and filmed them. He was a monumental scumbag, claimed he could do anything he wanted, kill people, anything. Foreign and domestic press were everywhere, anthropologists doing field studies, tourists from Kansas and lots of parents looking for their kids.
It should be mentioned that proliferation of amphetamines did a lot of damage to that scene. However, this video appears to be censored regarding drugs.
I understood it was hard drugs that flooded the Haight-Ashbury (Hashbury) and the early rise of the Reaganoids (aka vile capitalist racists), that refused to embrace the fresh winds of social change the hippies manifested.
yup...the drugs turned from green (Weed) to the nasty white drugs (speed, cocaine , and heroin)
Yes. Speed is what killed the scene.
I remember them, but why would us young kids need uppers anyway? LOL. Oh I remember, the thing was to MIX speed with Hash or pot. Man all that really was dumb!
Plus all the other drugs - LSD was a favourite as well as speed. Not to mention venereal disease, that was rife.
I was involved with Haight Free clinic and subsequently Marin Open House and your chronology is accurate and well done. I have also been apart of other non-publicized experiments that were free-spirited, creative, community expressions of "freedom, peace and love". Even communities that are away from the mainstream and non-publicized go through change and evolution and come to an end.
It is important to understand that "everything exists as a moment in time". Events in time are unpredictable, chaotic and sometimes unbelievably wonderful, but they eventually change. Life continuously flows as people change, evolve and their lives change. Nothing is meant to last. What is important is what take away from it, what you give to it and what you use to build the next thing. Things can be going amazingly but then some key people fall in love, marry and have children, move away from the community to build their own family or members want to build a career separate from the community.
It is important to remember that all creative outbursts whether it be beatnik, abstract expressionist, the folk scene, hippie, punk, the early 80's East Village art scene all become media fabrications and they all come to an end. None of CBGB original bands embodied the same ethos and applying a term to describe them is useless; the same with the 1940/ early 50''s NYC abstract expressionism. Life is too big and too complex to use a single term to describe it. And, people are too complex and evolving to stay together to maintain something forever. Contradiction is the nature of life. Nothing is meant to last; but many things are meant to celebrated!
Let it Be, Forever, Now.
Amazing! You must have seen so much, thank you for sharing your story and insights!
Well said! everything and everyone ….always in the flux of evolution….🐞
Did you run into Charlie Manson hanging around the Free Clinic? How about Jolyan West?
Low rents for Victorian houses gave birth to a brilliant creative community. High rents ever since are destroying the value of life!
@@pbattis1 I am grateful to never have made either acquaintance! However, it's scary that Roger Smith did not have Manson's parole revoked after his repeated arrests.
It was a great time to be young❤🎉
Vietnam war.. are yu serious
@@kellyannpage1469 word
Excellent. I was a hippie in upstate NY where we had a small scene. So glad I didn’t migrate to the Haight at the time when I was a minor. Ended up moving to SF in 74 when the Haight was dead and the gay movement was in ascendancy. I then worked doing outreach on the street there to help kids who were still running away to the Haight in the 80s. Kids STILL are runaways and homeless there to this day. The Haight has a powerful legacy.
Oh, and I remember distinctly reading about The Death Of the Hippie in the newspapers of the time….
The Death of Hippie was one of many events organized by The Diggers < they started the "back-to-the-land" movement and free communes in Northern California.
Very true, they are still dealing with the effects of all this. You made the right choice!
I went to the Haight in the mid 1980’s. I was in my 30’s but still looked like a hippie. I was flabbergasted when some teenager asked me for money so he could buy some acid. I just laughed. I couldn’t believe it.
@@markbrooks7157
wow ... and to think back in the day the Merry Pranksters used to throw the acid-of-the-day from Ken Kesey's bus named Furthur ✨️🚎✨️
@@LucyLennon20…..Scott Nearing was the fore runner of the back to the land movement. Making of a Radical.
I remember the hippie movement well. In 67, I was living in the east bay and there was a teenage hippie couple that hung out at our local bowling alley. They told me they were moving to the Haight Ashbury district and they wanted me to go with them. I told them I was only 11 years old and I don't think my mom and dad would let me. I thought about it though.😧
Glad you didn't go.
Yeah, had you gone, you probably wouldn’t have lived to tell us what you said.
Creepy
That's crazy of them to try to take a kid with them away from their parents 😕
You should have went with them
The idealism of youth gives way to the realities of getting a job, paying the mortgage, and looking after the kids. Not to mention hard drugs and partying are a dead end.
so true. some make it. some dont. drugs are a waste of precious time.
@@youngyeller you can't waste time.
@@davidcleveland-yv6my the moody blues song driftwood states time waits for no one my friend. no not even you. like sand through the hour glass,so are the days of our lives. drugs waste your time. i have wasted some time there years ago. learned my lesson got out with a brain left. no going back. time keeps on slipping into the future. i remember these words today.
Yeah... nothing is as easy as it seems. You learn that when you grow up.
@@davidcleveland-yv6my I wasted time, now doth time waste me- Richard II by the boss, Shakespeare.
What happened to SF was the exact same thing that happened to Greenwich Village in NYC in the 60s : the Corporate Real Estate interests started jacking up the rents to insane prices, oftentimes not just doubling, but quadrupling rates for commercial and residential tenants, forcing tenants to move out and small business owners to close shop. Bookstores and record shops are never high profit businesses and once one 'counter culture' store closed, others had to follow suit.
Large Real Estate developers are always the ones who kill communities and force people and small businesses out. I see it happening in 2024 like crazy in my suburban city just outside NYC; developers forcing out small business owners who've been in the community for decades to pave way for "Luxury" Co-ops and Condos. They've done the same from coast to coast in the U.S. They buy off local officials who will then declare "imminent domain" and pay small store owners only a fraction of what their property's worth. This is what led to the decline of NYC and SF and LA in the 1960s and made them some of the most expensive and unlivable and unaffordable cities in the U.S.
It wasn't drugs or anything else but Greed pure and simple.
Well said thank you!
The irony of this run on sentence is the same "hippies" that frequented those neighborhoods are the same greedy corporate fuckers that jacked the price of everything 20 yrs later. It's almost like they knew that the communal ideology will not and can't work. Because......GREEED!
Yes. Right on.
Its the cycle of cities
Thanks for that, man. It needed to be said.
the dealers moved in....got messy. twas still quite groovy in the late 70s & 80s when had a renaissance. today its quite touristy, but still has a fun flavor. tho few of the original shops remain.... the annual street fair was wild... The Grande Piano was a kool cafe where we all gathered for coffee and...... the free clinic was awesome and helped alot of folks.... i lived in a georgous old lady (victorian) bldg for yrs near haight and ashbury....rocker ghosts everywhere... The haight is beloved.
What great memories you must have! Wow!
That's so cool!
Yea, I remember when the dealers came in, our philosophy of down playing big money was over. The dealers looked just like us too. Really, looking back, there was no way to really win the world peace idea. We still spoke and sang of it for years and tried to be nice to each other though. The over 30's people would say we were communists. I was too young to really know anything about communism but, I see why they thought that now.
yup
Hows the homeless situation in the Haight? Don't hear much about that area having any major problems.
My "First Concert"
12-19-1969 - my 16th Bday - Janis Joplin - NYC -
So cool
@@freewheelingideasthat concert changed 3 Jersey Girls' lives ...
... forever 🤍 Janis
I Love Janis, I was just ten in 69. But my older sister would blast her on her record player and I would imitate her singing.
@@julenepegher6999my one gf that attended the concert with me looked just like Janis. She sang like her, too.
Janis brought onto the stage her "Lil' ol' friend from Texas" ... Johnny Winter came running on the stage with his white albino hair and guitar in the air.
... and one day my Janis-look-a-like friend had a new boyfriend ... he was albino!!
Wow! I would have loved to see her❤
I lived in communal housing across the bay for 7 years. When I first went to San Francisco in summer of 1968, it was just about all over. The SF police had reportedly raided the community and everyone moved on, mostly north to Marin, I believe. By August 1969, the hippie momenent, despite Woodstock that same month, lost its appeal to young people due to the shock of the Murders by the the Manson communal family. The only thing that kept any of the pieces alive, perhaps, was resistance to the Vietnam War.
The government needed someone like Charlie to help dissolve the hippie movement.
@@dsanders5142 yup so they did thei r best to brain wash the general public that eveyone with long hair who was unshaven and unshowered was another manson!!! it worked ..they succeeded!!
7 Dead gigs this year :)
@dsanders5142 Now, they seem to be the government. California is one big hippie palace.
The "resistance to the Vietnam War" was only a resistance to the draft. Once Nixon ended the draft, no one gave a crap about the Vietnam War nor the 3+ million that were slaughtered by the Communists after the Democrats voted to cut off military aid.
Garcia was so perceptive and intelligent and articulate.
He really is!
Not bad for a cia agent!
@@Jay-n262 huh?
When Jerry spoke it was poetic, the same with Bill Walton (RIP)! We dead heads must keep the music alive!
@Jay-n262 not for the normies, dude. 😅
Sitting up straight and meditating... Breathing in... absorbing love... Breathing out... dissolving stress... Sending love and healing energy to everyone reading the comment section.(~);}
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As long as you're sitting up straight...
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Yes TM and Hinduism was very strong back then. Yoga and learning about prana and chi was the thing.
There were still some hippies hanging around the Haight in '73 when I went there. One house was open to the hippies to use as a crash pad. I was told it belonged to the grateful dead. It had no furniture but it was carpeted if I remember right.
I was right there on Stanyan at this time. It kills me that I missed Jimi in the Panhandle but I was only 7 at the time so it's understandable. I remember going into a Diggers Free Store on Carl and getting military Sargent's Stripes for free. Overall you have really captured the vibe of the time and how I remember it. Some of the photos I have never seen. Jack Cassidy looks so young! I ended up working for Bill Graham about 15 years after the "Summer Of Love". I also worked at the Fillmore for a time but it was a Punk Club called the Elite Club by then. Crazy memories. Thanks for the Trip!
That’s awesome..and you’re welcome! Glad I could help bring back some memories!
Jerry Garcia was super intelligent, talented. Always worthwhile hearing what he has to say. 👍🎬
Not smart enough to lay off Mr. Brownstone
I never liked even on of there 4 chord stupid songs.
@@orangeandslinky Well the Beatles were on 2
@@deanl0 George Harrison went to Height and he said it was super stupid and a bunch of drug addicts.
That mook had hhe IQ of an eggplant.
Wonderful!!! I was born in 73 and now I understand how everyone and everything from that time interconnects! Thank you!!
You are so welcome!
Must have been fun for a few months or so in 1966 and 1967, for a few thousand people who were there. I find it all rather depressing to hear about now.
So true, Racketmensch. When a monkey stares into a mirror, no saint stares back out.
I was born and raised in Hawaii and in 1967 I lived with my cousins in Santa Rosa. Curious about all the talk about Haight-Ashbury and the hippy movement we decided to check it out. What a culture shock. There were so many people from all walks of life sharing their music and artistic talents. What was really cool was the number of people gathering to share love for all. I never encountered any negative people. What a moment in time for me.
Still fascinated with this era; always will be, though I'd never pursue the lifestyle. I'm too prim!🙂↕️
Much of it is mythology and fantasy like so many other things people come up with.
I find it fascinating too. I was a kid in the sixties, living in San Francisco. I remember a lot of chaos, fear, and confusion. I also remember the peace, love, and laughter from the hippies. I didn't really understand what was happening since I was a child, but 'll never forget how it felt to me. What a time it was. I've still got a little hippie in me. Far out, man. LOL!
@@tw8464 You got that right, It's one big pack of lies glossed over, A facade.
@@michaelquinones-lx6ks No...early 70s in the Bay Area was fun and interesting.
@@tw8464 You got that right, As the old saying goes, ' Things are not what they seem,' The reality is it was all nothing but an Illusion a cruel farce, Those kids that came out to Haight Ashbury believing in all that so called ''Peace and Love'' ''Utopian'' shit ended up homeless, alone, destitute, dying from drug overdoses, and murdered.
The stars are only in alignment for so long.
well put
As a product of Haight street this is refreshing to see because the aurra is still there. It will never leave!
My mom and dad raised me on a lot of this type of music when I was a kid in the seventies me and my sisters great music 👍🥁🥁
Amazing music!
@@freewheelingideas amazing it is I still listen to this kind of music everyday but lately I've been playing a lot of Robin trower twice removed from yesterday and bridge of sighs those two albums are absolute fantastic I can not stop playing them lol 🥁🥁
I was a teen in the 70’s. The best times and music. I love Robin Trower too. Memories.
@@julenepegher6999 hell yeah Robin trower yes man he's one of my favorite guitar players I'm being honest I like him better than Hendrix and I Love Jimi Hendrix but Robin trower 👍🥁🥁
@@RonaldWilliams-lp3bg Too Rolling Stoned.
This film had impact 25 years ago, The standards and morals sure have gone down hill since then
True
Not true it's just different now ..not the 60s anymore
But it's not run down or hedonistic . Actually very corporate now if anything its boring.. not much interesting things happening
Every counter-culture scene is short lived. Nothing gets done when nobody wants to be productive. Yes producing art is fun and important, but you gotta pay the rent and eat.
Good doc. I remember the popularisation of the Haight in the mass media in early 1967. I was very attracted by it but was too young to go there myself. But I was certainly influenced by the scene. Still have a romance about that time and place and still am fond of the music.
Music and Haight aesthetic is still great!
The curiosity seekers didn't help matters. Jerry Garcia once said when tour busses filled with curiosity seekers rolled in that was it they moved to Micky Hart's ranch nearby.
Yea not very fun to be the subject of the freak show brigade..
@@freewheelingideas
The Diggers held a "Funeral for a Hippie" procession down the street. It was Oct.6, 1967, the end of the Summer of Love. The casket was full of beads, shaved off beards and marijuana. The wanted to convince the media to stop.
The demise? Drug addiction, STD's, and bums.
Like the entire country…
The demise? The ‘68 riots & democratic national convention in Chicago (the Chicago 7 and thousands came behind my house to avoid arrest & escape the anti war protests / riots & heal & head back to Cal etc or even Canada after burning draft cards) by “69 at the same time Woodstock was happening, the Manson family was killing & about to make hippies into the evil monsters that BigBrother & Nixon warned about 🙈🤬
And greed.
They were all bums.
Im going to see Dark Star Orchestra and take Loads of LSD
There was no demise , your just not invited to the party
I have been to 7 Dead gigs this year alone
this is awesome! A real human created documentary with real person narrating without that familiar fucking Ai mispronouncing shit out of context. 10 thumbs up!!! 😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you sooo much for the wonderful feedback!!
Far out! I'm 66 now, and my "beatnik" parents dragged me out of North Beach, San Francisco (276 Francisco St., little hovel is still there) in '60 or 61'. I didn't know then what I would be missing until just a few years later! The drug me over to Germany to pick up our custom-made 1961 VW Bus and did Europe in style, apparently. I do remember some of it, but we shipped the bus and us back to NYC, moved not quite far enough upstate to a little factory village on the Hudson River. I'm still here, could never afford to go back. I started getting hip to the news when Kennedy was murdered, got a subscription to MAD magazine, and watched that disgusting "conflict in Vietnam" on TV. And listening to San Francisco and Greenwich village on the brandy new FM band radio. I lived what turned out to be walking distance to Yasgur's Farm, but Pop didn't want me to go, and he didn't want to drive me to Woodstock. The big kids wouldn't take me, and I chickened out on riding my bike the mile or so to Nyack, stash the bike, climb up onto the NYS Thruway and hitch a ride. Still think I could have pulled it off!
Sometime around '74, the Grateful Dead (whoever they were) began following me around, I had gone haywire in middle (gulag) school, and Pop caught a miracle and put me in what I now have to call a "Hippie School", very hard to explain, experimental back then. And I grew up loving everyone and spreading as much Peace as I could. Pop married a wonderful woman who survived him, and we talk a lot. Turns out, while I was being a River Rat, and wharves, I guess, my Stepmom was in Haight Ashbury struttin' down the boulevard! Man! She hung around with all the people I wish I'd met! Jerry before the beard, even. Endless stories! Her favorite musician is Bob Dylan, and was then, but it turned out, over and over, they were at the same party, bar, park, and she never saw him! Stoned and she missed it, I guess. Sorry to blather, and I got lots more (met Kesey and Krassner, that's two chapters there.) Okay, back to your regular programming... Peace, Love, Earth!
Visited the Haight in summer of '68 to check out the scene. By then the summer of love had become the summer of hell. Lot's of young people sitting outside the shops very stoned and asking for spare change from passersby. Found out later that the Haight's freewheeling culture collasped under the weight of too many young people and the grifters attracted to that scene. Gracia was right: Freedom doesn't mean "free"; you must also have responsibility for the orderly functioning of the culture or it soons descends into anarchy. Sic transit gloria mundi
The time to have been there would have been 1966---before the rest of the world found out about this little Utopia for societal misfits and descended on the place and ruined it in 1967. I've heard more than one "native" of the area say that the REAL summer of love was in 1966--not 1967. Also, LSD was still legal up until October of that year.
Some great music and thought/culture came out of this time. Beautiful intentions that turned dirty and grim...
My last memory there was when visiting in 1985. I was walking by the doorway in front of a beautiful Victorian mansion with my girlfriend, and some poor soul was putting a needle in his arm. I never returned. I hear it's worse now. It's a very sad story for a unique, historical American city. The flowers in" Flower Power "wilted and died quickly to line some graves. They still do.
The Haight withered, but Hippies, and flower power, grew and spread around the world and thrive to this day.
Absolutely. The Beautiful people.
@@jontomas2271 true
W hat a fantastic video have a wonderful day ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊
8:20 ... When some Madison Avenue suits notices The Psychedelic Shop (and others) the InStore chain (and others) was born and Psychedelia/Hippies/Counter Culture equaled $$$$...
8:29 .. "is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?" 🤣
14:25 ... Quicksilver Messenger Service was my SF band of choice (thd mid '60's lineup, minus Dino Valenti)..❤❤❤
To paraphrase Garcia and quote Robert Heinlein, "there's no such thing as a free lunch."
Moccasins were big in marketing and yes everything my sister or her friends made the industry just stole it. It took away the individualist in everyone.
I was there during 1980 on my first journey around America and just saw very sad burned out hippies who seemed disillusioned, burned out by substances without much to show for their lives. Others had turned to nature, left and had small holdings , self sufficiency A few had rediscovered the Holy Bible clinging onto its truth rather than seeing everything through a haze. .
Would they have been a part of the Jesus Movement? I mean no disrespect. Just wondering. 💜🦋
The dream became a nightmare thanks to excess.
Yep
I think it became a nightmare when all these people showed up wanting to leech as opposed to wanting to contribute.
This story is as old as Adam and Eve. We were literally given Eden and found a way to screw it up. It's in our nature.
@@markbrooks7157 yup...and to deal the new nasty white drugs, speed, coke and heroin
You know hundreds of thousands are going to Dead gigs and taking LSD every year ?
Great video, both footage and commentary. Thanks! Interesting and thought provoking to step back to this place in time that led the country in many ways.
You’re welcome! Than you for the positive feedback 🙏
My friends who lived in North Beach left California following the Monterey music event in June of 1967. My friend and his wife told me, "The experiment is over for us - it won't be too much longer before it all sours." The mass media at the time didn't help matters either. Too many under-age kids flocking to the Haight didn't either.
It was founded by NFs. Then SPs swarmed in, ejected them and replaced them. (Myers-Briggs)
Why do they censor the audio when pot or acid is mentioned?
overcrowding ,homelessness hunger, drug addiction,and crime affected the neighborhood
Every beautiful scene once discovered and flocked to, soon comes crashing down man.
Because it always presents an opportunity, not just for the good, but also for the bad. Who immediately identify a weakness that they can exploit.
@@yinoveryang4246 facts. Human nature on full display on the canvas of a microcosm
grateful Dead scene Summer 1995
Well, what you just spoke about might be why the Jesus culture started. It started in CA also.
I'm going to my 8th Dead gig this year, all on LSD with everyone else
Some tourists come and go , that's true
I guess they should just pass it on to me
My mom and dad never got into this . I was born in the 60’s .dad was an officer flying helicopters in Viet Nam and mom was a nurse , we grew up in upstate ny . Mom saw a a lot of young people die from the drug scene and it broke her heart . We never had contact with these people . But mom spoke to grandma about the young people dying and getting very sick from the drugs .we kids were all to young to know about any of this .
My mother was into the music of the time and that rubbed off on me. I do remember her telling me to watch out for those Hippies when she would let me walk up to the store for candy.
Fantasy is a deadly playground.
Anyone who lived there will tell you the same thing. The Summer Of Love was the post end of the Haight Ashbury scene.
The real time to be there, when it was beautiful and all love and hippy dippy vibes, was 63, 54, 65, and ended with a thud in 66.
The national media had discovered hippie culture and saw gold in them thar hills and exploited it and its fashion and turned it into the hip thing to be.
Then the run aways showed up, and the speed freaks, and the pimps. And it was over.
All of the original members of the scene like your Grateful Dead, Airplane and Big Brother all moved out into the country and left that city to the wannabes that had taken it over. The summer of love was a complete fabricated load of hogwash.
It was an era where the untold truth centralized into the power of beautiful girls. You weren't cool unless you seemed cool to a Playboy bunny worthy girl. The world revolved around them. The hippy instincts were correct in that you didn't want the 'wage slave employed till you croak' script. But the biggest irony was to later find the only secure jobs were the ones- that nobody wanted.
Quite ironic
What a great name for a band - Big Brother and the Holding Company!!! I thought 1966 would've been a great time to have been young there!!! I was only five then, a bit too young. My sister went to Haight Asbury in 69 or 70, long enough to become a heroin addict.... So as idealized as it was to many youth, there was still reality to deal with.. .
Things seemed pretty good in 66 still. Sorry to hear about your sister.
Its hard to live where you just get high everyday and don't have to work and take responsibility for yourself. Alot of poor addicts we know that can't last long.
A sad existence for sure.
Do you want to come to the next dead gig ?
@@gratefulkm let's kick it home Dogg.
@@bradleylove8606 I get home via LSD every waking moment of my life
In 1957 my friend parents sold their home, I was 5, we were in our way to San Francisco, then my Mother discovered she was pregnant. Damn I could have been there for the summer of love 💕
God Bless Always
Thank you very much Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸 ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
I did visit their way after the coolness left
It only proved to the devotees of the noble savage that the world is not a paradise and you cannot live life in it like it was, that this material universe is somehow benevolent and will provide for you.
Hustlers, Addiction, overdosing, predators, cons, bad drugs, thieves, evil vibes man, that's what killed the summer of love ☮️ Even Charles Manson had since it coming down, and had gotten the hell out of there.
STD’s
Actually, Manson ran TO the Haight because he saw the runaway girls there as easy pickings. He preyed on lost souls, told them how beautiful they were, and they followed him to the ends of the Earth...sometimes literally.
Spent time there and sure not the same. Love your video on UA-cam and may God Richly Bless you and may Jesus Christ show you His GREAT love that He has for each of YOU ❤️ Just ask Him to show you personally His Love as He did to me years ago 😊
Great analysis.
Thank you 🙏
Why is it that every beautiful, gentle and creative thing in time begins to attract want to be's, losers, hatred and then pure evil. It's as if true love and kindness is just to hard for regular humans to handle. NOTE: If you ever find Shangri la, keep it a secret.
Good idea!
Well, what you just spoke about might be why the Jesus culture started. It started in CA also.
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Because grifters and cons come in ...too many naive people
Now the place is crime ridden, overrun with homeless people, businesses have abandoned it and the entire state, look at what they have done to this beautiful state and city.
I was in Haight during the 1960s. I'm 78. I found the hippie movement a great illusion.
@catholiccrusader The so called ''Hippie'' movement was a grand illusion.
I'm going to my 8th Dead gig this year alone, coming ?
The Haight Ashbury scene peaked with the "Human Be In"--after that watershed moment mass media descended upon the community and it got commercialized. Additionally, once the district got mass publicity it drew the attention of a lot of shady characters who came in and created major problems--one writer described it as "a pack of hungry coyotes circling innocent lambs." Add to that the mass overcrowding with runaways along with infrastructure shortages and things collapsed pretty quickly.
I think the ultimate lessons are: 1) A community like the 60's Haight Ashbury HAS to fly "under the radar" to be sustaining. 2) As Jerry Garcia stated in this clip--there truly is no "free lunch." Along with freedom comes responsibility. If you want a community like this the individuals in that community have to be responsible to do the necessary work to keep it going. (Sadly, many hippies only wanted the pleasure--and none of the sacrifice.)
What happened to peace and love? Peace and love. You need rules, structure, laws, work to function. You can’t sit around doing dope all day and think you’re going to have a house next month.
No you don't. See the VERY successful commune, "The Farm," near Summertown, Tennessee.
No such thing as peace and love .only peace and tolerance
@@Petequinn741 Apparently, you have never been to a Rainbow Family gathering. Go quick! They have regional gatherings all over the country.
These ppl are now running government
There is peace and love but too many people will take advantage of that. The Manson Family demonstrates what happens to flower children while everyone is committed to a myth that drugs, free sex and liberal politics are all you need. Woodstock is an example, put artists and fans in an environment somewhere, fine but someone needs to plan for bathrooms, food, security, and how people will leave without trampling each other.
I grew up in the Sunset district in SF. I was 11 yrs old at this time, my friends and I used to go down to the Haight on Saturday mornings, it was a complete mess.
I was born there in 1952.
The haight was definitely a eye full , I feel lucky to live through it,,, never to be repeated.
I loved going to Haight Ashbury, it was a beautiful place. Now it's downright scary!
So basically SF was the northern version of LA's Laurel Canyon.
It was the other way around
La La Land
George Harrison should have been there a year earlier--maybe he would have come away with a different opinion. Oh wait--he was there a year earlier--the Beatles final concert at Candlestick Park in August 1966. Well, what would have stopped him from going a few blocks to visit the Haight? Missed it by that much!
He went there on a personal trip in 67 with his wife.
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That’s what the comment is referring to and saying he should have been there a year earlier
Reading comprehension ?
@@freewheelingideas the Beatles were thinking of moving there as per Lennon
@@user-fu2mi1nd5l I'm sure they must have heard about it when they played SF in August 1966
George obviously liked moaning. He moaned about everything.
How else could it have turned out in the end? No money etc. Just laid around doing drugs etc and getting handouts. Doomed to failure. At first like Garcia said, it was a music scene, poets etc. But no finances.
The time was wonderful but not enough to overcome the basic greed and violence that define humans
"horrible, spotty, drop-out kids... on drugs/// It was like the bowery, like alcoholism, like any addiction." George Harrison
The Beatles promoted drug use, they share some of the responsibility.
The only difference I see is that the Beatles had a furious work ethic. They put out an unbelievable amount of songs and albums. They'd do things like 36 concerts in 35 days on tour. Incredible work ethic that the hippies didn't have.
Love in the Haight ☮️
I lived in the Haight in the early '70s. 2024 Oak Street, across from the panhandle. I remember a free store on Haight Street and the Omnibus Cafe, a beer joint. Very fond memories.
I lived very close to you at 1555 Oak Street, apt10, across from the Panhandle, too. Same time.as you, too. Janis Joplin lived around the corner on Lyon and Jefferson Airplane had a place n the opposite side of the Panhandle. What was the name of that street? (It was one-way running in the opposite direction to Oak) I remember I paid S97.50 a month for a HUGE, beautiful, but cock-roach infested apartment. Like you I too have fond memories. I feel blessed to have had that wonderful experience.
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@@lindapearson881 Do you remember the fish & chips restaurant on Haight Street? Did you ever go to the Omnibus Cafe on Haight? Also, there was a free store on Haight Street. Remember? The #7 Haight bus was only 25 cents.
This is seemingly even handed. I love that Jerry Garcia talked about what freedom really is. It doesn't mean no rules and everyone must contribute. He certainly experienced moochers and people wanting to stay at his house for free. I'm so glad I was a little too young to fall for early hippie drug scene. Some of those people barely made it into their sixties with their mind intact.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Nothing beautiful lasts.
It lasts with the successful commune, The Farm, near Summertown, TN. It lasts in the Rainbow Family that gathers all around the country, and world. It lasts in our greatest rock music from the Sixties and Seventies. It lasts in all who care about the earth and act to protect it.
I grew up in the Bay Area during that mess with the hippies. Yes indeed, I got caught in the middle between generations (baby boomer generation had just phased out in California), however I always wanted to be a hippie in my younger years. I saw those acid freaks spacing out the redwoods and thought wow, that looks like freedom! Little did I know about the dark side of that movement. By the time I left home (age 17 in 1976), the Jesus movement was in full swing. Little did I know about the dark side of THAT movement. What can I say... I was a misfit among misfits.
As a veteran of multiple Dead tours (not shows, full tours omg what was I thinking), I will just assume that Jerey had a bad cold at the time of that opening interview. 😉
Great documentary, enjoyed it from start to finish!
Thank you 🙏 yes I think he had a cold as well.
No society can work in which nobody wants to accept any commitment or responsibility. It's a shame, maybe, but there it is...
Kind-a like parts of the USA in 2024.
Nonsense, utterly over associated with the noise dividing brain and disassociated from the emotional brain you are
You really need to understand Cain never killed Able,
Able is alive and well
" i feel therefore i am "
The demise of the hippie movement was hard drugs!
yup...a tougher crowd moved in to deal meth, coke and heroin!!)
My mother was a victim of the Haight Ashbury some 45 years later. We lived south of the city and she being in her surly 20’s, she fell into the trap of demise. 🥲 I grew up loving the music.
@@plwbooks when I die bury me deep put two speakers at my feet put a set of headphones on my head and always play the Grateful Dead ✌🏼
@@Ohplease62 me too! :)
The so called ''Hippies'' were nothing more than a group of worthless low life's.
I still think that it would have been fun to live during that time. And it's to bad that San Francisco has gone down hill over the last few years.
The Haight had been a community of people of all sorts, Chinese, blacks, Japanese, beatniks, college students, beatniks, gays, and more prior to the hippy thing. It was the most amazing place I'd ever seen in the U.S. People respected each other and went about their daily ways. Then it went poof! The first year or so of the hippy thing was ok because of the variety of folks there.... but then.....it became a haven for runaways and more.
As Lennon said "IT could never make it with a name like that"
Well hard drugs and commercialism drove us all out into the woods and the larger world of course!!
yup
A lot of the people I knew in the 70's that were into The Grateful Dead were literally incapable of taking care of themselves on their own. Some of them eventually committed suicide.
I was a teen from 73 to 79, and I can tell you what happened to them, they took their degrees and sold out to corporate interests.
That's because they came to their senses when they saw their ''friends'' dropping dead from drug overdoses.
Garcia said 66 was the real summer of love
It was before Paul died
It ended when tie-died shirts, chokers and bell bottoms showed up at K-Mart.
Nothing mystical about Kmart
@@freewheelingideas Not this comment but so many trolls & bots not taking a minute to realize that if they were " there " they would be 75-85 years old now & yet you look at their avatars & see they clearly aren't older & definitely weren't at Haight. Oh well , at least 🤷 they count as views.
Im ready to teleport back in time there ✌️
The same thing happened in Portland Oregon. Too many people, high rents, and drug addiction. They came, they saw, and they destroyed.
Peace and love in Haight Ashbury was largely a myth. I lived there 1967-68 and a huge amount of violence and exploitation lurked just below the surface. Rape was common, with underage runaways often victims. The district never came close to a general atmosphere of peace and love.
rape and unreported rape was common in every large city in usa back then and society was so ignorant of it as well with so little support for the vicitms and so much victim blaming shaming .., still rampant today ....if you were there then im sure you would agree alot of what killed it is when the dealing of coke, speed ,and heroin replaced or surpassed the weed!!
Thank you for posting. I get tired of hearing about all this peace and love crap. Those of us that lived thru those times know better.
@@4465VmanR and unreported R shows that Haight Asbury was only different on the surface…
@@zeebest1004 "only different on the suface?"
It was over by 1967, the real days were in 1965-66, then Cal. Made LSD illegal Oct. 1966, then the bummers started,aloha
I was struck by the middle class free loaders who just sat on the sidewalk and told you that you had to give them money. It was not cool. I did get to see some great music in the park a few times. The Grateful Dead and Santana played fairly often. Bill Graham died when I was out there so they had a huge show with all kinds of bands that he produced and helped out.
“While the music played, you worked by candlelight
Those San Francisco nights
You were the best in town
Just by chance you crossed the diamond with the pearl
You turned it on the world
That's when you turned the world around”
Got a ride in 1967 to the Monterey Pop Festival from Fullerton with a friend, Jackson Browne and his lost wax gold jewelry partner, Thomas Thomas, as they had a display booth on the grounds. We spent 4 1/2 days on the grounds. Two weeks later, I went to the city (San Francisco) for the Summer Solstice Celebration, went back to playing in LA & Orange County until I got a call in 1969 to come up and play with a group headed by a vocalist living in Larkspur that I'd played with in So-Cal called Rejoice. While playing with them I ran into a singer I'd first run into a couple of years before at Sid's Blue Beet in Newport Beach - Lisa Kindred. After I left the group, Lisa and I started playing together, she on vocals & rhythm acoustic and I accompanied her on my Chet Atkins model Gretsch. Then we got married while living in North Beach, then Stinson Beach and, finally, the Haight where we played with Debbie Olcese's (now Sipes) band Ascension. Lisa best described the change in the Haight when bodies started showing up in dumpsters by making the following observation: "There was a time when anyone with long hair was your friend".
Great story!
Hippies grew up and turned i to what they fought against
Nope that's the tourists , the hippies are sitting crossed legged on a floor smoking bongs and taklinG LSD
@ user-qr7ee2cp4y Kinda Ironic wouldn't you say.
They grew up and learned that sponging off mom and dad and begging while being stoned is a poor life choice.
Or they just laid down and enjoyed the pavement that is so forgiving.
Yep, a lot of them when returning home tried lying flat in their parents basements until their dad's (who mostly grew up in the depression and were WWII vets) weren't having it and told them to get a job or get out. No helicopter parenting back then. Mad magazine used to parody those situations.
I was in the Haight in ‘98. Expected hippies but didn’t see any. Based on what I *did* see, my take on Haight ‘98 was that it was *still* a counter-cultural youth enclave, but for the youth culture of the present, not the Sixties: grunge and Alternative music, funky facial hair, piercings, tattoos. (I call them AlternaKids.) It made perfect sense. The artsy drug-taking youth of ‘98 wasn’t going to be sporting the signs of Flower Power; they had their *own* youth culture, not rooted in THE PAST. Peter, Paul, and Mary were gone; it was now Nine Inch Nails, Candlebox, and Alice In Chains.
San Fransisco apparently is just this today.
I'm aCa. Girl... know all the old scenes.
Like anything in our society, it was ruined once it was discovered and became national news, leading to an influx of people who had nothing to do with the original scene. Just as with punk later, once the entertainment industry figured out how to wring money out of the movement by pumping out cheap, mass-produced shit, "hippie" became just another marketing silo.
yup!!!!!!!!! and it was ruined when some of those influx of people were dealing the nasty white drugs : coke speed and heroin
Sounds like, and I am from around that era, when the money began rolling in they moved out, sadly.
Yea things got out of hand
I was 13 when this was going on. I was living in small town Texas. I wanted to go there because they seemed to be having a better time than I was. Finally visited in the summer of 2000. Tried to buy a T shirt at the corner of those streets but was yelled out of the shop because I was filming. Big difference between perception and reality.
You should have just gone to a Rainbow Family gathering. -- It's never too late. 8^)
I never thought I would hear San Francisco and cheap rent in the same sentence.