Which PTFE Dot Skates Should You Get? | Dot Skates Round-Up
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
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Products mentioned in this video:
Esports Tiger ICE V2: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Ghostglides Edgerunner: ghostglides.com/products/logi... (also available on MaxGaming)
AliExpress "Gulong" dots: www.aliexpress.us/item/100500...
X-raypad Jade & Obsidian: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Ultraglide: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Subscribe
1:24 - Pericord
1:44 - Esports Tiger ICE V2
2:51 - Ghostglides
3:28 - AliExpress "Gulong" Dots
4:10 - AliExpress "Gulong" Ovals
4:34 - X-raypad Infinite Skates
5:27 - Ultraglide
5:56 - Conclusion
6:44 - Outro
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Since many people are asking how you should install dots, here are a few tips I can give:
- If you are using hard pads, I'd recommend going for one skate per corner (and if possible, maybe an additional one at the bottom centre)
- If you are using cloth pads, I'd recommend starting at one skate per outside corner. If you dig in too much (or even scrape), install an additional dot per corner
The way you install dot skates is very much a subjective topic and completely depends on much pressure you put into the pad when tracking.
More pressure + less skate surface area = more scraping
great review, jade dots are the ones that I like the most with the saturn pro, the arrangement of the dots is important and can change the behavior of the mouse in order to obtain a precise adjustment
agree! ordered obsidians with my new wlmouse beast x and I'm impressed of how awesome they are!
Nice video bro, i loved it. very informative 😊
Appreciate the video mate. I also had the same disappointment with tiger ice on skypad, the wear so quickly and are pretty slow mid feeling.
YOOOOOOO i was waiting for this one, insanely based.
Let's go new Jakeu video
ty jakeu i now know which of me to use on my mice
Pericord are easily my favorite dot skates
Very informative
So let me get this right, the ultraglides and xraypad counterparts are the exact same product? Just different branding? I'm looking to check out the obsidian dots as I've heard big praise, but the ultraglides counterpart price ratio is so much better, but I'm afraid of difference in quality
jakeu the mouse adventurer with another banger insight review or something whatever the term are
10/10 video, exactly what i was looking for!
I recently picked up a skypad and was wondering what replacement feet to buy. I'm probably gonna go with the red ultraglides/x-raypad dots. I saw the red dots before but was sceptical. I kinda thought all colored skates sucked becuase stock skates that suck are always colored. But its nice to hear that this is not the case.
The Gulong dots sound good too though, they are just 0.44€ with free shipping because of the welcome deal.
Thank you so much! I'm glad the video was of help to you. I, too, was sceptical about the Obsidian dots, but they truly are some of the very best for glass pads out there.
And yeah, those Gulong dots are absolutely NUTS for the price, especially with that deal you mentioned. Pretty crazy.
picked up some btl dots because the obsidians were out of stock. so far they are not bad at all on a glass pad. haven't had them for long so my opinion might change depending on how durable they are though.
Hey buddy! I thought i had sensor issues with my RVM, when i wanted to do 180 or flick a bit it does not register movement, kinda lags, but after whole day i found problem, mouse feets, i added some cardboard from a cigarette box and taped it on existing feet and now it does not 'lag'. Would 0.7mm feet be enough since rvm has high lod? Should i put them on already existing mouse skates maybe? I am gonna get 'gulong' ones just to try it out
If I have no interest in putting on new skates should I go jade still or will they wear out over time
Picked up the jade dots as per your recommendation, and using 4 of them on a hsk pro ace with a AC2. No issues with scraping, absolutely love them and they'll last a long ass time with having 40.
Glad you're enjoying them as much as I have! They really are infinitely better than what dot skates once used to be.
does switching to Obsidian dots made it slower and controllable on AC2.? (compared to Stock skates)
@@TharukaNisal no idea, i got Jade dots which are quite different. But if i had to say, it would likely make it faster - unless you use a lot of dots. Less surface area = more speed.
@@Plexez Are you still using it? I have pk control, I think it's the same surface as AC2
@@pierrepruh I’m still using jade dots with the AC2, just on the beast x mini now
generally, using more dots on a mouse allows to *partially* prevent the scraping issues. it does slow down the glide significantly though
I've installed 8 dots on all my mice to minimize scraping, else I wouldn't have been able to survive, personally.
I'll make a pinned comment about that topic in a bit!
Cheguei a instalar 6 em cima, e 6 em baixo, para deixar mais controlável
Which ones have the least static friction on a SkyPad, I HATE static friction. The stock skates on my Basalisk V3 Pro felt great for a bit then they went from great to terrible day by day and now they just feel terrible every day and I need something with the absolute least amount of friction possible!!
I have the Ice v2 dots and I have to say I like that they are so controllable which of the skates comes closest to them?
Probably the Ghostglides, but I don't think there are any dots out there that similar to the Esports Tiger ones.
And Corepad?
Ultraglide me pareceu uma boa opção mas pelo valor prefiro Xray Jade.
Uma dúvida, eu uso artisan eventualmente um Superglide pulsar Mousepad. O Jade não é 100% PTFE? Qual seria problema de usar ele no Glass PAD? Já que problema é usar Feet de vidro no Glass PAD e não PTFE.
The video I was looking for,Im new owner of Superglide pad and actually using Atlantis Default dots.
People say tiger ice dots are quieter but have shorter life than other,so I guess I will follow your advice and get x-ray obsidians
If you're looking for new dots for your glass pad, I can definitely recommend the X-raypad Obsidian dots the most.
Finally I order Tiger Ice dots,for play valorant I make very agressive moves because low sense and prefer more silent pads,I will order x-ray next time to compare,its similar price them both already.
Great video again!
I've recently been trying some dot skates myself, I picked up ghostglides and xray obsidian and jade after seeing you post about them. Any idea why on xrays website they say not to use Jade on glass? Do they just wear down quickly or something?
Also is attaching them just personal preference? I just put one in each corner of my starlight but I've seen some people put them on really wide so the dots are basically right at the edge of the mouse.
Glass ranks around 5.5 to 7 Mohs, jadeite and nephrite come in at 6.5-7 and 6-6.5 on the Mohs scale. Maybe it’s not recommended because it could scratch the glass pad depending on the hardness it is
@@Miketacticz The jade dots are just PTFE skates, it is just a marketing name I imagine. Still, kind of interesting information all the same!
I think it's mostly marketing, since their Obsidian skates are optimized for use on glass pads.
Attaching is mostly personal preference, but for glass pads, I'd always recommend simply going for one skate per corner.
On Cloth pads, I'd recommend starting with one dot per outer corner, and if you find it digging into the pad too much (or even scraping), you can add one more dot per corner.
I personally always install 2 dots per corner for cloth pads, since I still find myself pressing into the pad too much sometimes.
I will make a pinned commend for this topic since many are asking, should have included that in the video as well.
Have you ever tried them on a desk? I dont use mousepad and I cant find any review for mouse feet just on desk. My desk has smooth surface but I guess its different than the fabric of the mousepad , so the generic feet I tried are not sliding. (my old G-pro wired slides so well on desk! , but not sure where to find feet like the original feet of G-pro wired)
Hey @JakeuFPS, you mentioned that the ultraglides from aliexpress are from the same OEM as x-ray pads, which one would come closest to the X-ray Jade? Obsidians were easy to spot, but unsure of the Jade between their speed, conventional, ice versions. Thanks again!
did you know which one to buy cuz i have the same question
@@Ramo_Xd hey, for the jade equivalent, you'll want to purchase the speed version :)
@@diktaf i purchaseda packed of 4 vairiants. speed conventional ice control(red), from what i asked seller obsidian=red, jade=closed to ice. u mentioned that speed(gray)=jade? i have no time to review them yet but i was really curious about them. sry bout my english
@JakeuFPS Which skates from Ultraglide is the same as X-raypad ones??? You have given 2 different responses to same question in comment section. It's confusing.. 😵💫
X-raypad = Ultraglide >>> ICE version? Speed? Conventional?
Thanks.
I just ordered some xraypad jade speeds, if they're 2 crazy for me might have to order some obsidian. I have an artisan raiden that's slowed down over the years so I need the speed back and didn't want to buy another pair of tiger ice, I hope the jade speeds in non dot form are the same. edit: I don't see or feel the need to buy dot's if your mouse has skates that are perfectly made to fit. Just seems very niche for people who's mice don't have skates readily made
Any problem If I removed the skate around the sensor on the VGN? Should I keep It on when replace with the gulong dots? (soft pad btw)
I'd always recommend keeping the sensor ring on since it's most often very thin and just there to keep enough distance to the pad in extreme cases
Told you...xray = based
No need to use anything else unless you want more balance then go for Alidots.
We are converting the masses to the glory of Jades🗿
Jades and obsidians are amazing
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My mouse has no grip, it came off over time. Maybe ill take a look into these.
Gulong or esptiger v2?
for the ultraglides you mentioned, was it the conventional, ICE or speed version? thanks!
The speed ones!
@@jakeufpsultraglide speed = jade? And ultraglide Ice? And convencional? Is more slow?
How is more fast? ICE ir convencional?
Hey man I Subed, cool video! I ordered a Darmoshark M3s but I heard that the skates are not very good (can you confirm?) so I'm planning to order some Jade dots very soon. Playing almost all time on cloth (Saturn Pro, Energon, Havu Kuusi,...). Keep up the good work. 😉✌
Hey! Funny you mentioned, I just uploaded my review on it: ua-cam.com/video/hhTdtrsAkbA/v-deo.html
Skates are OK, but I'd personally swap them out since they're pretty slow. Jade dots are my fav for sure.
Thank you so much, will try my best o7
@@jakeufps Yes and I just watched your review, what a coincidence, lol. IRL funny moment.😅
What’s gonna be the closest experience to tiger ice v1 but possibly better? Jades or obsidians?
Jades, but they'll be a bit faster and have a small break-in period
Should I buy the jades or the obsidian for my hard pads? And I prefer speeed
Obsidian for hard pads >>>
So the conventional ultraglides are the jade X-raypad ones?
Yeah, the purple standard "replacement" skates from UltraGlide are the same as the Jades. At some stores, they call them "Speed", pretty confusing.
Im not necessarily looking for dot skates but i want new skates for my pulsar x2h. I love my tiger arc v1s on my gpx but they dont make them anymore. If i wanted skates that are similar so control oriented and smooth what would you recommend?
If you just want new skates for the X2H, I'd highly recommend getting some Corepad skates (the normal ones).
If you really want something more controlled (Tiger Arcs weren't that slow IMO), go for the Corepad CTRL skates.
@@jakeufps how are the stock pulsar skates in ur opinion, are they worth maybe keeping on?
At first, I thought that mouse skates are just a gimmick and aren't worth considering for how insignificant they seem. But after trying jade skates, I felt like I have been enlighten for how buttery smooth and speedy it feels compared to my stock skates.
im using bt.l ones and i like them with my io 1.1 3395
Ice version of ultraglide feets = Jade from xraypad or the conventional is the equivalen?
I'm pretty sure it's the conventional that's the same as the Jades, but mine have yet to arrive.
Update to this, currently buying the 2 jades and obsi of ultraglides and cant distinguish the jades
The ultraglide dots also have an "ice" version available; do you know if those are comparable to tiger ice, or are they different?
The ICE version is virtually the same as the Esports Tigers, just got them in yesterday. The normal purple/replacement feet from UltraGlide are the ones that are virtually the same as the Jades.
@@jakeufps Appreciated
Ultraglide Ice = Tiger Ice?
Ultraglide speed = jade
Ultraglide convencional = stock elim mouse How sora, lamzu, Thorn, Gwolves, Beast X etc?
Ultraglide Red = oblisidian?
@@parloca13 Ultraglide control is faster than tiger ice, i have no idea how are they even comparable
I just started using dots on my starlight-12, 2 per corner so 8 total. How often do the dots last and when should I change them?
On cloth, for literal years, basically. On glass, 2-3 months.
@@jakeufps ok ty!
@@jakeufpsdo the 8 dots last 2-3 months? So a pack of 40 dots should last you about a year on glass?
What do you advise someone who owns a Superlight mouse and an Artisan Raiden xsoft mousepad?
www.corepad.de/en/Corepad-Skatez-Logitech-Teflon-Mousefeet-Mouse-Feet-Hyperglides-Hyperglide/Corepad-Skatez-Logitech-G-PRO-X-SUPERLIGHT-Wireless-13365.html
any more textured skates you recommend?
Maybe something like the Sapphire dots
So I am new to this world and would greatly appreciate some help from the community. I currently use a Viper Mini on a Razer Strider L mousepad. I want to try different mouse skates, pads, mice, and don't know to go with the Jade's or the Gulong's skates. I am thinking of buying the Attackshark X3, because it's a cheap way to get into wireless gaming mice with a good sensor. I would like to know what soft mouse pad is a good recommendation since I am kind of getting tired of the hard surface on my Strider. Or should I try glass mousepads? 🤔 I am currently not trying to invest too much money YET, but any recommendation is appreciated!
(Mousepad)Vaxee PA is nice, more on the control side its around 40 euros (depends where you live) you also have the lgg saturn (control) or lgg venus (faster) they both have a "regular" version and a "pro" version that is a bit more premium, those are all around 40~45 bucks and they're really good, for mice on the budget side you have the VGN dragonfly f1 (comes with a "pro" and "moba" version with moba being the best) at around 40~45 bucks I believe, then the darmoshark m3 and m3s at around 40 to 50 euros, for a bit more premium experience you have the pulsar x2 and x2 mini (around 100 to 120 depending if you get the v2 or not) you have endgame gear too they have the xm2we and op1we for 80 and 85 euros (europe at least) and you obviously have lamzu with the atlantis, atlantis mini, maya, thorn
All pretty good and they're around 100 to 120 bucks usually, then for mouse skates you can try the corepads pro for some slightly thicker and more control experience, you have the tiger ice v2 for a stupid fast glide (in my opinion too fast) then all the ones mentioned in the video.
@@Daxter... I appreciate all the help. For someone who likes using a relaxed claw or finger tip, which mouse would you recommend out of the ones you've named. I would like to know about both the expensive ones and the cheap, thank you. I also heard good things about the Ninjutso Sora 4K.
@@AppySaid maybe the pulsar x2 mini would be good, the ninjutso sora 4k is more aimed towards claw grip users with the sides being slightly "curved" but the pulsar x2 has flater sides which in my opinion is a bit more comfortable for fingertip grip and can be used for claw grip with no issues
@@Daxter... Thanks!
X-Raypad, Ultraglide, Ghost skates and so on just all rebranded oem products. The only good thing about theese, when you buy theese you always gets the same products. When you buy an unbranded dots skates from Ali with some pictures (sometimes mixed pictures from 2-3 different products) you not always gets the same skates, sometimes the thickness is different, sometimes the material, it is a bit of gambling. But if you think about that you can get 6-8x of the quantity for the same price. So if you order similar looking or the same (by pictures) skatest from 6 different seller it is a nice gambling as you have a chance to get something new or better but you will probably get the same good quality skatest at least 2 or 3x of the 6 :D . So I wouldn't spend a penny for these rebranded expensive items, because you actually just pay the lot extra for the nice packing... (Unfortunately I did it 1-2x already so I learnt my lesson, so I just try to help the others who hasn't already made this mistake.)
yo is the adhesive same for the xraypad and ultraglides? the ultraglides are much cheaper for me.
Everything about both of those skates seem virtually the same, including the adhesive
@@jakeufps Oo looks like i can try the obsidians/red version then. do you know which variant is the jades?
what if u like a controlled glide?
Superglide V2 or Corepad Control is what I'd suggest
Which feet is most similar to the Tiger Ice v1?
Tiger Ice V2, they're the same.
Between tigerIcev2 and xraypad which would you recommend more
Ah never mind I watched the full video 😂 I gonna go order my xraypad jade now
Anybody try corepad dot skates
Just my experience: the aliexpress dots I purchased back in Feb 2023 were thicker than the alidots I received now in July and were perfect for my use. Not sure if it's QC inconsistency or I received the wrong batch originally.
The new aliexpress dots are too thin and don't feel as good with mice that have indentations for mouse feet (GPX, VGN, Lamzu, etc.). They sit almost too flush with the mouse bottom. Because the new dots are too low, at 1mm LOD I can move the mouse without touching the surface. I prefer lifting the mouse without causing movement.
Note that the quality of the dot skates are still fine, it's really the thickness that I'm having issues with. Stacking the alidots works but may vary from mouse to mouse. Also less ideal since you'll need to use twice the amount of dots to achieve the same level of depth.
Hey!
I actually can't speak for it myself, so I will ask for a friend of mine to answer that for you.
Any updates on this? :)
Discord link is dead.
Tiger ice skates are made for cloth control paads. ofc they are bad on ninja speed. raiden etc.
Kannst du mir eine Kurze Liste machen von Slow-Speed?
From slowest to fastest:
1. Tiger Ice V2 (personally can't recommend them, since they scratch more than all others here)
2. Ghostglides
3. Obsidian
4. Jade
Ultraglide speed=xraypad jades?
Yes. Same skates. Get ultraglide because is more cheap.
X-raypad vs Esport Tiger ice v2 who better than?
There is no better, faster doesn't mean better. They both good quality that last over time. Also preference can vary based on your pad.
Whats the mousepad
Check the description, I always make sure it's mentioned
Best skates for darmoshark m3s?
Corepads for pad skates, X-raypad Jades for dot skates
@@jakeufps alr thank you so much
can you make video about applying dot skate? like how many of them are needed and also the positioning of skates
The more you add the harder it gets to strafe. I asked chat gpt basically comparing skates that cover a large area vs dots. Although some mechanical engineer would provide an accurate result, it seems that with dots is easier to strafe using wrist but is harder to move left right based on what it said:
Mouse A with 2 small skates on the front sides vs full surface:
With smaller skates located on the front sides of the mouse, the contact area with the surface is limited.
The smaller contact area means higher pressure exerted on the surface for the same force applied. According to the laws of friction, this could result in higher frictional forces.
However, the limited contact area may also mean that it's easier to initiate and maintain lateral movement (strafing) because there's less resistance against the lateral motion.
Mouse B with a skate that covers all front area:
With a larger skate covering the entire front area, the contact area with the surface is greater.
The larger contact area distributes the pressure more evenly, resulting in lower pressure exerted on the surface for the same force applied.
This may reduce frictional forces compared to Mouse A.
However, the larger contact area might make it slightly more difficult to initiate and maintain lateral movement (strafing) because there's more surface area in contact with the surface, which could increase resistance against lateral motion.
Considering these factors, Mouse A with 2 small skates on the front sides might result in more effective strafing with the same energy spent. The limited contact area could make it easier to initiate and maintain lateral movement, despite potentially higher frictional forces due to the smaller contact area. However, the actual effectiveness would also depend on other factors such as the specific design and materials used for the mouse skates, the surface properties, and individual user preferences and techniques.
Quais são os dots originais que vem no Wl Beast X ? Aqueles pontos originais são muito bons. Bem melhores que os feet reservas Black.
Os feet Blancos vendidos a parte acabei de comprar pra testar
Discord says it's not a valid link :o
pericord.com there you go!
xraypads are now 15€ per 40, a bit hard to swallow
tried bt.l dots, i hate the scraping with my AC2 Sakura. I don't know if it's just me, but it's what kept me away from trying out dots again lol. I liked the speed though, so might try your recommendations. cheers 🫡
You're welcome! Yeah, BT.L and Corepad dots were both really bad when I last tried them...