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  • @HeraAgeofEmpires2
    @HeraAgeofEmpires2  4 роки тому +72

    Day 10 of 30! Make sure to vote on what civ you want next week. Stay safe all

  • @adij92
    @adij92 4 роки тому +7

    Intro 0:00
    Civ perks and Tech tree 1:08
    Tech Summary 4:55
    Map 6:27
    Twitch Q&A 7:30
    Game Starts 9:17

  • @Astigos
    @Astigos 4 роки тому +19

    The wolf won that game. Hera is just riding his coattails. Kappa.

  • @challengeraoe1144
    @challengeraoe1144 4 роки тому +147

    Would love to see Chinese - no idea how the extra vill start works

    • @thomasrogers3008
      @thomasrogers3008 4 роки тому

      Same

    • @alexwa9959
      @alexwa9959 4 роки тому +1

      He made a video about the Chinese start 😉

    • @edwardblom2661
      @edwardblom2661 4 роки тому +6

      Build two houses and find your sheep ASAP, like instantly put one under your TC, really essential that you’re fast. 🐑
      Then harvest the sheep with all your vills. When you see that the sheep has like 40-45% food left, MANUALLY drop off the +50 food you’re carrying and make a villager (asap). Repeat this until you don’t have to drop off food anymore. Never stop creating vills or your early lead will be gone.
      7 instead of normal 6 on sheep might be a good idea so your food eco can catch up.
      Glhf

    • @edwardblom2661
      @edwardblom2661 4 роки тому +3

      Oh and I forgot, in the beginning make loom since you have 0 food.

    • @5654-b9o
      @5654-b9o 4 роки тому +10

      ​@@edwardblom2661 i would not recommend building any house at all, build the first house just before reaching 9 pop. Put the first 7 vils on sheep (instead of usual 6) and continue build order normally.

  • @kobbebauws
    @kobbebauws 4 роки тому +22

    "No Imp rush, but playing each age at its own strengths" is probably the hardest thing in the game 😅

  • @sebastian.tapia.v
    @sebastian.tapia.v 4 роки тому +40

    Aztecs and chinese! since you ranked them S tier this patch, to make use of them before next patchie!

  • @cynthiathornton5762
    @cynthiathornton5762 4 роки тому +61

    Malay. I know they're a pretty advanced civ, but I feel like that's why there should be a guide from a pro.

    • @ChalkyWilston
      @ChalkyWilston 4 роки тому

      Agreed - I know they're good, but I'm never sure what to build when I get them

    • @psychopommes674
      @psychopommes674 4 роки тому +3

      @@ChalkyWilston
      They have full archer research. Their elephants are much cheaper but dont have the last two armor upgrades. Militia line costs no gold after imperial upgrade but no Champion. And the unique unit needs a half population and is very cheap but has low hp and low attack but very fast.
      And if there is a little bit water on your map build a harbor and fishing ships who can produce unlimited food. More information you can find here: ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Malay/Tree

  • @SM-bb4hx
    @SM-bb4hx 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Really like your civ analysis series as you play a match in a competitive scene after analysis. Also giving an instruction on why some maps are good/bad for the civ is really helpful.

  • @karnazacss
    @karnazacss 4 роки тому +4

    I want the Mongols specifically in black forest/walled maps since the begginning. You are my favorite teacher, thanks!

  • @senselessbkrow6803
    @senselessbkrow6803 4 роки тому +16

    Great idea.
    In my opinion you should do your next "so you want to play" on the civ your opponent choose in the previous video.
    So you can refer to both games while explaining it.

  • @gersoncujcuy2534
    @gersoncujcuy2534 4 роки тому +3

    Trying to learn to play Mayans and Persians... and you come up with these! Thank you so much!

  • @ezekielbartlem8125
    @ezekielbartlem8125 4 роки тому +104

    Actually really want a Britons vid, there is basically no current vids on them and how they fit into today's meta

    • @vacuity7272
      @vacuity7272 4 роки тому

      same!

    • @Vitas7thElement
      @Vitas7thElement 4 роки тому +1

      Hera just released a tier list with all the civs and talked about britons and how good they are these days

    • @jorgemosqueda9812
      @jorgemosqueda9812 4 роки тому

      britons dont have versatility so all you want to do with them is make archers and mix another unit like knights or habs or skirms

  • @apookatzgaming8770
    @apookatzgaming8770 3 роки тому

    This is the first vid that actually gave me an idea of how to play the Persians. Seriously.

  • @lukasbandion1313
    @lukasbandion1313 4 роки тому

    I really appriciate such a Guide. I am not the best in AoE right now but it's nice to watch some guides from a pro to get better

  • @christiancollins6616
    @christiancollins6616 4 роки тому +16

    I think a video explaining mongols could be interesting considering they seem to be more popular from what I’ve experienced

  • @Mathemarius
    @Mathemarius 4 роки тому +1

    Hera 2019 (7:35 in Hybrid Map Build Order #2 | Pure Water Opening): Think of an idle dock like an idle TC. If you're not making the fishing ships you're missing out on efficiency and gathering time.
    Hera 2020 (at 14:28 in this video): I'm housed, but it's no big deal, it's just my dock.

  • @robjames4032
    @robjames4032 4 роки тому +37

    Khmer. Gotta be khmer...who doesn’t wanna meme someone with elephants scorps and bombards?

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 4 роки тому +8

    I think with the introduction of DE Elephants are now less of a meme than before.
    Hear me out: before they had good eco and Kamandaran they had bad Trash and needed to win with Knights into Cavalier before gold runs out. now that they have good trash they arent forced into a position to win before gold runs out which makes them save a lot more Gold in the first place. And if you then use that Gold to go over the top of whatever the opponent is doing why not go all the way over the top?
    The Eltie upgrade costs the same as Cavalier+Paladin upgrade and you get a unit that is A LOT mire powerful than the paladin.

    • @bernardomuniz4631
      @bernardomuniz4631 4 роки тому +1

      I guess the problem with war elephants is that monk breaks their leg so hard is kinda risky to go for them. Unless you are a good portion ahead and you wanna finish the game, otherwise its a risky and hard to sustain economicly move

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 4 роки тому

      @@bernardomuniz4631 of course. You do this only if you are already in Hussar spam mode. Monks usually don't stick around in these.

  • @BirdMoose
    @BirdMoose 4 роки тому +24

    Chinese, I want to learn them but they're prolly the most intimidating civ to learn with their weird start

  • @Polux77
    @Polux77 4 роки тому

    Amazing video. Nice to lear that some civilizations have a specific pace to sort of respect in order to get the maximum of it.

  • @ianschleh8488
    @ianschleh8488 4 роки тому +40

    Unpopular opinion: Slavs pls
    Also, great job on this content, I’m enjoying it a ton!

  • @neildutoit5177
    @neildutoit5177 4 роки тому +1

    Hera: go cav and archers
    me: but, doosh?

  • @jacksanford5906
    @jacksanford5906 4 роки тому

    Great content. Love the detailed explanations and going through the tech tree followed by a real pro game. What else could you want!

  • @SM-bb4hx
    @SM-bb4hx 4 роки тому

    8:52 completely agree. Persians is really a strong civ now but not broken/OP. Maybe Kamandaran moving into Imperial and then reducing its cost by 100 food would be good. Trashbows should not be available in Castle age in my opinion.

  • @DudeWatIsThis
    @DudeWatIsThis 4 роки тому +1

    I think Persians are now one of the coolest civs, with the gold-free crossbows and of course the elephants. However, as a noob (had the game since 99', started playing multiplayer recently), I'm thrown back by their strong Dark Age eco bonuses. Seems like it's the recipe for getting into bad early game habits.

  • @olegdragora2557
    @olegdragora2557 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the video and the great series!
    It would be interesting to watch your tutorial for Bulgarians.

  • @taisst2186
    @taisst2186 4 роки тому +1

    Great content very helpfull ! Love to see chinese and azteque, those strange but apparently powerfull civ !

  • @JamesKelly-rt3ul
    @JamesKelly-rt3ul 4 роки тому +1

    Persians have been my favorite civ since karaden* tech (trash x bows). It's also crazy how they get literally every mounted unit and upgrade.

    • @mikesully110
      @mikesully110 4 роки тому

      yes mine too, they are a fun civ to play now too. You can spend your food and gold on great knights, camels, even elephants if you feel lucky - and with all that spare wood you can spam trashbows almost like a goth player can spam infantry. I bet they will be nerfed again soon. The only thing that lets them down now is slightly bad seige (and infantry but who cares about the milita line really)

  • @Mathemarius
    @Mathemarius 4 роки тому +2

    You clicked up to Feudal Age with 20 vils. When you reach 25 vils at 16:18 you put down a stable (and do the first Feudal action (apart from double-bit axe)). Wouldn't it be better in hindsight to click up to Feudal with 25 vils to have five more vils working while you're aging up?

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism 3 роки тому +1

      Good question. Needs an answer!

    • @Mathemarius
      @Mathemarius 3 роки тому

      @@Jimmy911ism Thanks for pointing that out :)

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism 3 роки тому +1

      @@Mathemarius The problem is they post these videos and then idiots make nonsense comments and stuff like this gets lost.
      I think the time spent creating more villagers takes overall productivity away... or impacts your vulnerability. 25 seconds per villager is 125 for 5 villagers - that's just over 2 minutes. Most fit people can run 800m in that time. Then there's the age-up time to feudal. Can't recall, but it's a fair amount.
      For me, another question is when to research Loom and whether to make militia while aging up.

  • @erensozen791
    @erensozen791 4 роки тому +3

    hey, thanks for the great content!
    An idea : ban 4 maps in every episode, i get it that persians can play on any of those maps easily but lets try to find the best ones and optimize our chance to win.
    can't wait for the next episode!

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism 3 роки тому

      Am gearing up to play online 1v1. Will buy a decent monitor and the latest edition of aoe2, then practice - that's where I'm at.
      I've realised Persians would be the best to start with and even though they excel on water maps and nomad, I'm not ready for those - one dimension first. I was going to ban Black Forest, but I've decided to not waste a ban on that. I'll favourite Arabia at first.
      HOW MANY BANS?
      When you select your maps, there's 1 favourite and how many bans? I'd ban Islands and anywhere with already-built walls, where you have to build a starting TC or water where possible... again, I'm not ready for that.

  • @jasent_aoc405
    @jasent_aoc405 4 роки тому +1

    Chinese Start has always been tough for me so I would love to see that video

  • @mythology2467
    @mythology2467 4 роки тому +1

    I half expect the title to have a "lol" at the end of it and it be a 30min arena game of you converting every knight your opponent makes and mangos every wood costing archer.

  • @jurgnobs1308
    @jurgnobs1308 4 роки тому +3

    so, for a pure land map, should I just build a vill or two more than i usually would in my build orders? I mean i guess that would still give me the up times I aim for, but with a stronger eco. or am I missing something?

  • @HenryElfin
    @HenryElfin 4 роки тому +1

    Beautifully played. Wow

  • @kevinlecavalier9720
    @kevinlecavalier9720 4 роки тому

    really nice game... may the force be with Hera and the spirit of the wolf!

  • @lukedebroqueville9333
    @lukedebroqueville9333 4 роки тому +4

    I think hearing your thoughts on Aztec would be great

  • @alexgalleguillos4467
    @alexgalleguillos4467 4 роки тому +1

    I would love to see the newest civs first. I think most of AOE players know the old civs pretty much (of course you know them waaaay better), but the new civs are kinda hard to get into. Hope you read this comment bro! Keep making an amazing work! Mucho love from Chile ^^

  • @davidpaul8647
    @davidpaul8647 4 роки тому

    Hero wolf of the western lake and mad micro from Hera :D

  • @anilkarakaya9343
    @anilkarakaya9343 4 роки тому +1

    not only skilled, but also cute and good looking af

  • @fatehaslam1997
    @fatehaslam1997 4 роки тому +1

    What a Gameplay :) thanks a lot! Keep going

  • @tcmr5775
    @tcmr5775 4 роки тому

    OMG Please make one of these for every civ. I grew up playing AoE2 on The Zone (any of you guys remember that?) and now with Definitive Edition, there are so many new civs and stuff that I'm totally lost on the current meta! Thanks for the video!

  • @taggebagge
    @taggebagge 4 роки тому +3

    How are Malians in the Definite Edition? I played them yesterday in the HD edition and I just think that they are so strong. I was doing a knight rush, dropping castles both defensively and offensively and at the same time I had a booming economy. I am not even particuarly good at the game so that civ feels overpowered in HD to me but maybe it is just my lack of experience.

  • @ericwatkevich9845
    @ericwatkevich9845 4 роки тому +1

    Ethiopians or Malay please. It's interesting to see professional takes on some of the civs that aren't top tier or seem to fly under the radar. Great content, please keep it up!

  • @rileypope4208
    @rileypope4208 4 роки тому +2

    Great series! Keep them coming!

  • @thomasrogers3008
    @thomasrogers3008 4 роки тому

    Thanks for these vids Hera. They are really good. When you're doing these vids it would be helpful for viewers to see the villager-to-resource breakdown in bottom right corner above the mini-map in these tutorial videos (rather than the point score). Let me know what you think.
    Have a great Easter weekend bro.

  • @frost511
    @frost511 4 роки тому

    Thanks for doing these Hera, I would really like to see Huns before the end of April.

  • @gabrieltudor6165
    @gabrieltudor6165 4 роки тому +9

    Do Mongols next !

  • @jeroen92
    @jeroen92 4 роки тому +2

    Mezo civs! I feel they are the most different from other civs!

  • @ComfyDents
    @ComfyDents 4 роки тому

    That wolf is probably the best teammate in all 1v1 games ever.... :'D

  • @filipzdarilek6274
    @filipzdarilek6274 4 роки тому +2

    Question: Do you think early dock is worth it? Persians can build a dock as a 3rd building and make a fishing ship

  • @ericlandon950
    @ericlandon950 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! Thanks Hera!

  • @shafterbarkley7356
    @shafterbarkley7356 4 роки тому

    Liking the Cumans. Thoughts of them?

  • @sars-cov-2611
    @sars-cov-2611 4 роки тому +1

    The 5000 hp town center civ that can produce 115 vils in the time it takes other civs to make 100 in castle age.

  • @Deoeffect
    @Deoeffect 4 роки тому +1

    Wolf MVP

  • @Drbanghole
    @Drbanghole 4 роки тому

    Great video! Do Aztecs next! :D

  • @mailboro
    @mailboro 4 роки тому

    I'd love to see spanish as they are very special and hard to Play. Keep up the great work🥰

  • @Wanderer1258
    @Wanderer1258 4 роки тому

    No +5% faster work bonus for TC's in Dark age anymore. It is curious, how civ balance changes every month with DE. Probably persians are not that crazy now as they don't get that extra villager to the end of Dark age. Still very strong civilization for booming, I guess. Anyway, thanks for the overview!

  • @mauriciomanassero4502
    @mauriciomanassero4502 4 роки тому +1

    Chinese...i know they are popular, and i like to play but i always have a rought start whit them. Thanks Hera!

  • @yicheng8763
    @yicheng8763 4 роки тому +11

    Khmer please. Really good civ but lower level players are often at a loss what army to make.

  • @dougie8747
    @dougie8747 4 роки тому +1

    Wait, I made a comment asking you to make this series but you'd already done it. Woops. :D

  • @Thibaut_Guerquin
    @Thibaut_Guerquin 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome man, thanks for the insight, keep it up !
    MegaMatt107, you did check your emails ? did ya ?

  • @Goldenblade14
    @Goldenblade14 4 роки тому +1

    I'm down for Burmese, tbh. The pros make great use of Arambai (even after the nerf) time and time again but I can't get them to work for me.

  • @joelbrandao4
    @joelbrandao4 4 роки тому

    Can somebody explain the thing with the wolf? I didn't understand that play...

  • @burck6113
    @burck6113 4 роки тому

    I would really like to see an italians video where you show different ways to take advantage of their bonuses! It's one of my favorite civs with malians and chinese!

  • @Kieva_Storm
    @Kieva_Storm 3 роки тому

    I saw a question in the chat I really want to know - when ARE War Elephants viable?
    I only play against the AI really, so I don't really know the PvP aspect of this game well, but even the stronger DE Ai's get roflstomped if you're able to mass Elephants.

  • @visioneil
    @visioneil 4 роки тому +1

    khemer, Chinese, Aztecs pls (in these order)
    entertaining and easy to learn vids, keep it up

  • @gongoranahuel
    @gongoranahuel 4 роки тому

    How do you make the panels look on the ground?

  • @DuneStar01
    @DuneStar01 4 роки тому +1

    You should do one on Malay. They have so many strong options and i usually play them on long diplo games. It would be nice to get a guide by a pro on 1v1 maps.

  • @sethkordic2387
    @sethkordic2387 4 роки тому +1

    I appreciate the extra talking, in my opinion its helpful to know the background of the civilization before the game. My vote is Chinese because I hardly ever play Chinese but everyone says its a great civ.

  • @bekirfatihbilgi4730
    @bekirfatihbilgi4730 4 роки тому +1

    Man, you are good thank you for your interview, but what is this gold miners working style at 17:53 :'(

  • @Anarchy1327
    @Anarchy1327 4 роки тому +11

    I wanna see Turks, the D civ! WE didnt have F rate!

  • @cariyaputta
    @cariyaputta 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this guide. I would love to see Aztecs.

  • @BadNewsRuss
    @BadNewsRuss 4 роки тому +1

    TC drop in 8th min lets go ! :D

  • @mattutter3525
    @mattutter3525 4 роки тому

    So much of your chat is filled with impatient children lol

  • @D3Pinda
    @D3Pinda 4 роки тому

    Awesome content! You said Persians were a little too strong - what would you nerf? Also would really like to see Chinese, you mentioned they are a top tier civ, but in my hands they are awful.

  • @nicolasabuin8639
    @nicolasabuin8639 4 роки тому +1

    great video! please make Khmer, i always seem at lost to what units to make along the great economy

  • @niki8280
    @niki8280 4 роки тому +1

    Hera, has viper hit you with youe D and F civs yet? He seems to want to prove your tier list wrong while against you.

  • @MmmMmmGood17
    @MmmMmmGood17 4 роки тому +1

    Wow..dats fast game play! No way to match that speed for me 😅

  • @genericyoutubeaccount579
    @genericyoutubeaccount579 4 роки тому +7

    "Persians are not the most gold reliant civ"
    Sure, unless you go Paladin + Hand Cannons on Ravines in HC3.

    • @arshiaaghaei
      @arshiaaghaei 4 роки тому

      Why would you add hand cannons when you have trashbows and can mass them tho.

    • @Bobby.B619
      @Bobby.B619 4 роки тому

      @@arshiaaghaei You're right but hand cannons have a bonus against infantry

    • @MVCx_xB
      @MVCx_xB 4 роки тому

      Before de they were definitely a gold reliant civ and that actually balanced out their strong eco. If they didnt get kamandaran the 5% in dark age would be fine. De balance changes are bullshit.
      Also hand cannons literally won the game in the game you're referencing. crossbows aren't going to counter eagles

  • @silv.k.2992
    @silv.k.2992 4 роки тому +1

    mattjustsalsa is the mvp! damn boi dats a good sum

  • @romamgebrishvili7188
    @romamgebrishvili7188 4 роки тому +1

    Hera what about making videos only against civilizations tough matchups, for example when you do let's say indians against infantry civs like vikings or celts or even archer civs, I mean it's little bit more specific and advanced, I am pretty sure 99 percent knows what indians do in general

  • @yannszilagyi3398
    @yannszilagyi3398 4 роки тому

    Great video. Thx Hera

  • @bintAmira
    @bintAmira 3 роки тому

    I love Paladins hopefully soon you can make a video of Persian paladins!

  • @blackpurge
    @blackpurge 4 роки тому +1

    Can you do Japanese next?

  • @yoyodude-aoe2726
    @yoyodude-aoe2726 3 роки тому +2

    I thought we were gonna Tc drop him.
    Everyone knows that's how you play Persians.

  • @diegocaldera8285
    @diegocaldera8285 4 роки тому +1

    Please do all you S tier civs! Great contentent

  • @Taydris0
    @Taydris0 4 роки тому +1

    Could you do Berbers next, Hera?

    • @Taydris0
      @Taydris0 4 роки тому

      I see lots of requests for Chinese and Khmer -- I'd like to see Berbers still soon. They are a very good civ that doesn't get used enough.

  • @pierrez8570
    @pierrez8570 4 роки тому +2

    Franks next!

  • @johndeng7291
    @johndeng7291 4 роки тому

    I am a noob at this game and I have a question for how won. Did the opponent give up because he killed some of his villagers?

  • @andrewcannon3380
    @andrewcannon3380 4 роки тому +1

    BYZANTINES!!

  • @kimlee988
    @kimlee988 4 роки тому

    Spirit of Hera🤘🏽

  • @bernardomuniz4631
    @bernardomuniz4631 4 роки тому +1

    Pleaze make chinese next!! Love yor work btw

  • @colenedrow
    @colenedrow 2 роки тому

    I think losing the eco bonus for the dark age really hurt the Persians. Not nearly as strong as they were before.

  • @mzc5772
    @mzc5772 4 роки тому +4

    maybe do a strawpoll for the next civ? xd

  • @ivantolkachev4808
    @ivantolkachev4808 4 роки тому +1

    Vikings, Mongols

  • @ChocolateMilkCultLeader
    @ChocolateMilkCultLeader 4 роки тому

    Hey Hera do you think that you would ever try hyper-aggressive strats. You have the speed and game knowledge to forward players and make their lives hell. I feel like you could be the next Lyx.

  • @nicholasbrassard3512
    @nicholasbrassard3512 4 роки тому +1

    Huns next hera! I can barely find any vids on them and itd be rlly helpful for this noob :)

  • @shayantabani587
    @shayantabani587 4 роки тому

    what time of age of empire is this guy playing? the Persian in my game doesn't kamandran?

  • @jamaicanlumberjack
    @jamaicanlumberjack 4 роки тому

    khmer. I feel like they have a lot of options now. would be good to go over. Or aztecs.

  • @matthiasdarrington3271
    @matthiasdarrington3271 3 роки тому

    How would you deal with Indians as Persians ? I always fail that matchup.