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I noticed in my childhood I could notice it with certain women and it turned me off. But with man it was rather the opposite and I found it sort of attractive. I married such a man. 20 years circus life, not fun
I just came out of a cult. It was in a hair salon where the owner demanded everyone to be loyal while he exploited us with long hours, terrible pay, no breaks or a lunch hour. He is quite talented, attractive, charismatic and extremely controlling. The salon is high-end and has a pretentious clientele. My cortisol levels became high and I started to gain weight, lose hair and now have other health issues. The weird thing is… that the grooming happened quite slowly. The younger stylists hold on to his every word and run into his office to kiss the ring like he is some kind of a God. I had no time to exercise because my sleep was disturbed and I was so tired when I got home that I even stopped flossing. These people use coercive control and the chronic stress plus the lack of sleep breaks you down. It is SO TOXIC!!!
So sorry you went through this just trying to earn a living.💙 He sounds like my narc ex with the same tactics, especially chronic sleep disruption. I felt guilty if I wasn't busy doing something when he was around. Coercive control and subtle, slow death of the target's soul. He had no empathy for any pain I felt. 😡🤦🏽♀️ So glad I got out!❤️🩹💜💜
Shocking and of course no unions etc. you did the right thing to get away. That goes on I imagine in film, theatre, modelling too. In other areas including unionised labour they can create all sorts of tiers and allow bullying and be behind a whole lot of secret- covert bullying.
Unfortunately that’s how the hair industry is.. everywhere. I’ve been hairdressing 32 years in Australia. The only way to continue in the field is to become self employed. Work from home. Put your boundaries in place when you service clients.
I had the exact same experience as a young lawyer in my first job, a media lawyers' office which handled very high profile media people cases. My two bosses literally sucked us dry.
I've made a promise to myself after I survived abusive manipulative, toxic parents. I will avoid these types of people: People who attempt to take autonomy away from me. Try to make me believe that I can not help myself and that I am incapable. Expect from me to give up my individuality and surrender or be submissive without question, - indefinitely. Making me believe that I am indebted to them or owe them my possessions or life. Creating an immense fear that I am doomed for eternity if I do not conform to a certain believe system.
You sound very similar to me. Expect some serious pushback that's designed to destroy any self belief you have as soon as you start being your own person. A person basically gets put through hell one way or another, when it comes to these folks. And tragically, it's often a case of 'out of the frying pan, into the fire', in that if you came from a family that was abusive, you're very likely to attract others out in the world who are the same. Then when you try to break free and become your own person, you get stepped up abuse that's designed to stamp out any flicker of growing self belief. And you are made to feel that the whole world is against you, because they deliberately cut you off from hearing any voice other than theirs' and they abuse you in secret often as well, all to maintain their false image of perfect and infallibly good and right. It's like fighting a vicious cancer. You get worn down repeatedly by these sick minded pieces of crap. And they are so talented at manipulating so many around them. Everything is designed to make you feel isolated and crazy, stupid, wrong, worthless and pathetic.
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My mother's cousin was a Jehovah's witness and she was in a very abusive marriage and in order to leave her husband and divorce it meant having to leave the church and all of her friends and support system as well. She left all of it behind and finally began to heal but it took years to undo all of those years of damage from the cult
The Jehovah Witnesses are the worst most destructive cult on earth. Clear evidence since 1990. They put ne in solitary confinement for decades with no support.
Me too. Born into the cult, father and husband used the cult to control me into total subservience. Left church and husband at the same time. At 40. Lost home, everything. At 82 still struggling. My son took over absolute control of my life, is a carbon copy of his dad, bully's me without mercy. An emergency room doctor said to me last nite, "3I give you permission to disown your son." I'm 82, can barely walk without pain, in poor physical and mental health because of abuse all my life. No car. Or support system. Unsafe housing. It's terrifying.
Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult. Narcs can get in, and yaes a lot of damage is done. Distance yourself from these bad associates the scriptures tell you to do that. But do notblame the true God Jehovah. He alone is faithfull. Id these people really knew the scriptures
The would know we luve in very bad times. God is loyal to those who love Him did they not ever read psalms 91, 94 and Isaiah 65? The take alook at what He promised in revalation 21. Qw are still imperfect but Jehovah our loving God, has recorded in his word the bible, help for every situation. Do you think He does not see. These evil wrongdoers will answer to Jehovah. I am waiting on that too.
This describes my husband. I am not allowed to question anything. Thanks for confirming how necessary it is for me to get out of this relationship while a shred of my personality remains
Do so quietly when he's not home. Pack your things and all important ID + documents. Don't tell anyone who knows him where you are going. File for divorce through a lawyer. Be safe! I went through something similar. Men like that can become very dangerous if they know you're planning to leave.
It can merely just be competitiveness and ego. Sibling rivalry. People have a need to be right and don't like different opinions. Only a qualified licensed mental health professional can diagnose someone in repeated sessions. Everyone has some narcissistic tendencies Is Needing To Be Right Sabotaging Your Relationship? by David Tian podcast
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Where was this man when I was coming out of my “faith “ of 42 years and started dating after a 22 year marriage? I have been in a cult of millions and a cult of 1 person. Thank God I learned to listen to that voice inside that is really God within and wants me to be free. Thank you Lisa!
Oh wow love how incredibly well this man explains exactly what I have been trying to get across to people in regard to my relationship and marriage to my husband and the way he brainwashed our children. As well as a relationship with a narcissist. I feel completely seen.
There are rules for thee but not for the narcissists. They will tell you to stop socializing with so and so and if you disobey, they will claim you've betrayed them for associating someone they hate. However, if you bring up the slightest criticism about any of their friends: "HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF MY FRIEND!" Even if their friend is an obviously horrible person, they will take any criticism as a personal attack. The narcissist will also claim you're being controlling if you tell them you do like one of their friends and suggest they not associate with them. But they will try to micromanage your relationships because they know better.
Sounds just like my ex best friend. I let her get into my mind, I was young and naive. I sabotaged a lot of potential friendships because of her jealousy. Thank God she's no longer in my life
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Being raised by a narcissist and all of the emotional damage that goes along with that, sets you up for a lifetime of involvement with narcissists. You say to yourself that you don't want any part of that but because your idea of normalcy is off kilter, you attract these types over and over again. Until you wake up and discover the source of the problem. See Dr. Les Carter and the guy who coined the phrase "self love deficit." Can't remember his name at the moment.
Taised by a narcissist too. I keep on attracting them despite therapy and jours of learning about narcissism etc ... As soon as I see a narcissist sign, I stop everything.no contact straight away. However.... I keep on attracting them. Even though there has been a two years gap between relationships. I Can see some coming miles away.... But I Can still get trapped. I am pissed AT myself!!
I have a close friend who works for the largest Uni in AZ. He is required to attend these meetings with the director of culture where he has a very similar experience described here
Whatever happened to the old 1960's saying, "Question Authority" ? Unless someone is in a military command structure, no one really has any authority over another person. So, if you feel like you're being repressed or manipulated, QUESTION the person who's making you feel that way. Or just get away from them. Permanently.
Its allmost impossible. We are from birth manipulated by our parents, who are allready manipulated from birth. When you give birth in hospital, you are allready doomed, because EVERYONE even in hospital is allready manipulated. I understood recently, the last years...we are in a big cult being born in and govs, industries, institutions, schools allready manipulate everybody to be a future gullible slave, costumer to make the happy few rich. We have allmost no chance to get smart. Everybody in the system will make shure, you will be dumb and stay dumb. We citizens are just puppets on a string and we are surrounded by psychopaths, sociopaths, from bottom down, to bottom up. Psychopaths, sociopaths like to rule. Imagine all people in powerful positions of anykind...and the people around you without positions and choosing to dominating, manipulating you, being unempathetic... We are all in constant stress, because we live surrounded by humans, primates. It is natural allmost. Some are covert,others are overt and everything in between. The exceptions are seen as weak, because they are genuinly empathic people. This people suffer the most.
My husband hides behind religion.. no intimacy at all for 20 years.. intimidates me to not leave instead of loving me. He texted me in July saying he never loved me... i have just been a slave, i feel so used and disgusting.. i am filing for divorce right now..
Leave in silence. Leave and put your dogs, cats in safty no matter what first. Children also. Step for step. Do not forget..., if someone feels...they lose power over you...leaving them...they become extra dangerous. Even if he looks calm at first, accepting...it is a trap before the storm bursts. Many men kill their wifes, ex- wufes, girlfriends...as soon the men feel the woman wants to leave or/and gets stronger not taking BS anymore. Killing kids, pets is also common. So use your brain. Let no one know where you will stay/live. Make shure he does not find you. Change work, the town you lived, your numberplate of your car, your car, bank accounts, bank. Please...take care. Please.
Contact your nearest Domestic Violence advocacy center. Even if his abuse was never physical, they will still assist you in making a safe escape plan and connect you with financial resources.
He has knocked your self perception of being desirable wlby withholding intimacy! It's cruel deliberate to put you in a cyrcle of feeling like breadcrumbs are heaven sent. Destroy all and run in silence. He is sent from the Devil
So glad to see so many responses about controlling parents. If we were abused by our parents and/or family members, it’s difficult to see when we’re being manipulated and abused.
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ALSO look out for those sons of cult leaders. my exs mom had a church cult (christian cult) and I always saw him as a victim but it turns out it was covert narcissisim and as soon as we started doing things like spending days togther, cooking together...mainly anything outside dates, he became SHOCKINGLY AND SMOOTHLY abusive. It was his second nature.
THIS!!! Im so sorry you went through that too. My abusive ex's father was a cult leader who "dissapeared" and has assumed to have murdered his girlfriend, daughter (my exs half sister) and himself in the outback. I was with my ex for 2 years and he abused me to where I couldn't sleep/ eat due to being constantly in survival mode.. it's taken another 2 years to get the ability to properly eat and sleep back. He would play the victim and beg me not to go every time I tried to leave. Covert narcissism (and bipolar) with a sociopathic side, I thought he was going to kill me in the middle of the bush after he abused me and left me out there with no reception, his maniac smile and cold empty eyes getting joy out of watching me be so helpless and losing all my power to him said it all.
Yes, SMOOTHLY abusive. That’s the word! My sister‘s boyfriend is liek that. He flies under the radar, because everyone finds him so calm and nice. He‘s also very kind to my sister. But to me, he shows a different face. I look kind and gentle. That’s why he thought, he can act out on me. I proved him wrong by immediately putting him back in his place. He managed to make my sister and her daughter believe that i am an aggressive person and overreact. Thankfully, my parents believe me, because they connect all the dots: my sister is domineering and he subordinates to her, because he loves her, doesn’t seem to mind, because he’s always calm and quiet. Now this story has twisted for my parents: he seems like a ticking time bomb for them now, someone, who doesn’t voice his opinion, but eats up his anger and takes it out on peoplelike me, who he mistook for weak (obviously, he thought gentle = defenseless). They’re kind of proud that i gave him a lesson: people, who, appear gentle, can kick your ass, when you cross their limits.
My abusive wasband’s father was a “minister”. He was a very skilled and very educated on all of these tactics and at 21 years old- had no idea who i was really marrying and did all of these tactics. When you begin to wake up to what is going on- people to know that you do not ever confront them but make plans quietly to get out if you can. If they think they are losing control of you- your life will become a living hell. The amount of recovery needed from this is unsurmountable. We need recovery centers for this abuse
Such a crucial topic to discuss and know!! Thank you! We have to learn to use our common sense and listen to our gut. Someone can be brilliant, educated, and at the same time evil. People can use their smarts for evil, can’t just trust because they’re intelligent.
Came to watch this as a survivor of abusive relationships. As an Ex-Mormon, my alarms went off with so many things he said. After I left, I realized it was a cult. This only validated all of my cult points about the Mormon church. The old 15 men in suits who run the cult (Prophet and Apostles) love to say “Doubt your Doubts”; ‘Don’t question church leaders even if they are wrong!”; told to “Stay in the boat”-don’t wander astray; always told not to hang out with people who didn’t believe like you (Utah REALLY used to be very cliquish); still practice polygamy in that men can be Sealed to more than one woman in the Temple. It goes on & on.
And it's "the only true church." Without the temple ceremony, you will not be with your family after death. Total cult: complete with a founding "prophet" that sexually exploited female members.
Amazing, I needed this.. I was in the Jehova’s Witness cult…. It really messed with my head and I suffered on a mental and emotional level and I didnt know why until I spoke to a therapist
@@Girlwithapurse03 I'm so sorry to hear this girl. We compare victimology of narcissistic abusive intimate partnerships, or scapegoat family Dynamics identical to cult dynamic of abuse. It takes us years to deprogram off of the damage that's been done in that kind of atmosphere with the cult leader AKA narcissistic psychopath, and the cult followers AKA friends family in-laws and associates thereof. I validate you and I'm here to remind you that you're a badass. You are beautiful and lovable and intelligent and capable and don't ever forget you're beautiful worth!!!
That question Jesus couldn’t answer has nothing to do with what you’re portraying. .theBible y u says there is only one faith , one baptism. And if they are to be in agreement they all have to be learning the same thing and believe the same thing. Make it make sense. There is a truth. And only the truth set you from the lies and superstitions.
@@forensicbadassprofiling bingo! so glad to see that more ppl are starting to wake up to this. I've now watched a woman friend, former brief gf, married to a classic asshole type personality guy who finally used "psychological torture" on her when she had a broken foot as her first ever malady, and she was not healing perfectly rapidly. She almost left him at that moment but decided not to. I informed her in writing of all these basic ideas in the law, in psychology etc. I am an assertive middle man and many men have done a LOT to try to assist the abused ppl in this world. Many other men have not of course and many have not bcuz they actually quietly admire highly dominant males and try to emulate them in various ways. It's basic sociology or anthro, and we can and must start moving the needle faster. In the US, our personal safety now depends on it bcuz obviously society has socioeconomically fully fragmented, with apparently the rise over past two decades of a whole separate gray/black mkt economy, etc and related levels of poverty not seen in a hundred years. This creates issues that are related to all of this. Many of us who are middle aged and not rich are even considering these factors in our future planning for where to live, possibly ultimately even leaving the country for either long periods or forever, if affordable. Imho, as someone who studied political sci at the best institution pretty much in the U.S., our society is far too fascist-adjacent in a right-wing sense almost entirely , and it's actually getting quite dangerous. That's ALWAYS the case when society embraces the widespread carrying of firearms. There's literally NEVER been a society that does that without deeply dysfunctional reasons that historically always preceeded social violence, even if 'just' increased violence in interpersonal disputes, even if 'just' roadrage, etc. This is how criminology/sociology sees it and it's plainly simply accurate. Wake up and vote Blue like your ass depends on it.
I was in it too, and even though they don't have one leader but a group of men called the governing body, I believe they are a cult. My family and I have been suffering from the permanent scars
This is good info My ex has these characteristic traits He has re-married twice I stay away and my adult children are aware and do not fall for his shenanigans He would say you’re negative and a nag and this is what he would say to our circle of friends b/c I spoke of the issues and facts they thoughts were she’s negative but I was crying for help and support and he presented himself well Everyone was duped Now everyone knows different since I was able to divorce and recover
My husband and his family and friends too (except for his oldest sister), he brainwashed our two children, thankfully my son is beginning to see the truth. This man gives me so much validation, as I’ve been trying to explain this for years.
I happened to see this I worked for a well known insurance company that displayed many of the behaviors described. I learned a valuable lesson but pray others learn before they take a loss … good stuff thanks for sharing
Hahaha my mom, the leader that no one can question. It’s so sad how my brother and sister crumble to her and remain silent when she is doing damage to the family and even to herself. Her mom before that.
Hey Lisa girl, thank you another badass interview. Sadly, his opening statements about questioning a leader when you feel they're wrong, and you get attacked either by him or the other people in the group, is what I see everywhere on social media. I have finance n investment patreon groups I belong to like that w "teachers". Ive had so called world renowned leading dating coaches like that in masters classes. I have astrology apps w like that, where the group think is dangerous if you disagree with one of the "leaders". I even see it in different UA-cam channels content creators when you disagree or ask a question that may contradict the content. It's come to a point where you have to be so careful what you say online nowadays. Who you talk to nowadays. What groups you belong to nowadays. Because what he's describing is not only found in domestic abuse with intimate partnerships and their cult like families.... But you find it all over social media groups and apps. Even down to your neighborhood and community Social Services human resources, and political, and judicial groups. Cult like leaders are infiltrating the fabric of every institution across the globe. And that's just the reality of the situation.
I agree. Social media encourages and rewards people's narcissistic behavior, and submission to the delusions of narcissists. And cultural narcissism can and does operate in every kind of social group. It's terrifying.
The reason that victims don’t come forward is simply that nobody believes that these crimes happened to them as they sound so crazy that people just label the victims insane themselves, especially police. And most people will actually be as stupid to go back to the cult and confront them hoping to get an honest response, resulting in converting the victim into the cults #1 target and which then mostly will get the actual victim k🔪lled by the cult members or a 3rd person who could be influenced by some lies they made up about the victim that seem to be true but aren’t. So as long as people aren’t thinking as individuals but as part of a seemingly higher groupthink mindset, they will easily be converted into unempathetic even ice cold psychopaths as this is the outcome of every single group out there that places the leader above the individuals to make them better in something or as someone in the underhand exchange of their own personality. (This behavior is the exact behavior that all Cluster B people use to gain narcissistic supply or in other words „human energy sources“ as their life batteries… the more the better for them. Please educate yourselves about this topic through people working in the field here on YT even if there NPDs themselves and not any random victims of NPD abuse. Then you’re able to save lives out there. Soo many people are victims of their abuse, you wouldn’t believe it. 🥺
Can confirm. When I tried to reveal my ex narc abuser, nearly everyone didn’t believe me and turned their backs on me. I would have been better off not saying anything. She had already preprogrammed everyone to be against me.
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Thank you Lisa for that wonderful information! I really appreciate your time and curiosity to make this kind of work/knowledge available to all of us. 🤗
I loved how he broke down true Christianity is free to whoever believes in Christ Jesus, you don't need anything else. Please be careful of false prophets coming in the name of the Lord, know the Lord for yourself.
OMG that sounds like my husband's family. Everyone knew his mother was a functioning alcoholic and yet she was the leader of the family. She was absolutely ridiculous but typically what she said and thought governed the entire family. We all walked on eggshells around her. She domineered all the major holidays and got visibly upset of I wanted to spend time with my family for the holidays. I was also very blinded by my husband. He made me focus on his mother as the problem. Meanwhile, telling me neither he nor his mother were to blame for their behavior. His mother because he always blamed the alcohol and him due to his faulty memory and learning disorders. These people are insane and it seems like since my husband's mother died, he and his sister have taken on their mother's demons and slightly more of her behavior. It's frightening.
Really cant handle being around alcohol nowadays due to all the alcoholics and their cray antics (and they "forget" bc they've blacked out so much) I've had to deal with. All the DUI car crash fatalities also makes me anxious driving now ... crazy you can get a 12 pk of beer at the gas station
Love this podcast, well explained and detailed. Thanksm goodness I have recovered from 25 years of spiritual abuse from a church/sect that my parents were the leaders of. All that was said here is just accurate. Will save this video for future reference.
I was a part of a church that was constantly asking for more money. One day the pastor said he & elder of the church talked about putting life insurance policies on the church members. That was my family's breaking point. We haven't gone back or talked to anyone in that church. I remember last year when I was very sick I didn't feel any love from that church. I really haven't had much love from many church ppl I was otrisized from a church in Dallas Tx because a man from the came to my home to watch a TV movie with me. He acted a fool because I wouldn't allow him to use my bathroom while my daughter was taking a bath. I mentioned that to someone & they told others. No one believed me!!!
@@dpharrison7 of course I will stand up for my children & all children. We better watch the church ppl. I'm a preacher's daughter. I know hypocrites when I listen to them for a little while.
A guy I was so into and thought he was enlightened and was looking at him the way this guy describes… I later discovered was just a narcissist :( He became extremely verbally and emotionally abusive when I started saying no to what he wanted. Luckily I was no physically by him but the scary thing is that I even considered the crazy, controlling demands he stared making… I am very lucky I got away from him. He was so incredibly hard emotionally. The trauma bond was very very strong in a short period of time. He creeped me how one time before it turned bad when he mentioned the term grooming… I was wondering why he even knew that term since he was from India…. That and he said a few times that maybe he would end of being a famous guru. That country is FULL of narcissistic cult leaders abusing people under the guise of spiritual leaders. He may be famous one day or have some following but I sure hope not.
I had a stalker and he had other men gang stalk me and everything he’s saying is adding up to the experience I had. Tried to strip me down change my environment and trying to re program how I thought in my mind. I call myself a survivor I thought I was going crazy but I snapped out of it and decided this person is not going to destroy my life or drive me into suicide.
yes and no. Actually various religious groups like those two are very diff from each other in fact. You need to read up on them and the sociological aspects. Those two are entirely different. Orthodox jews are literally a tribal entity of ppl who have only survived bcuz they stuck together as exactly that social unit that looks so conformist. That's normal sociology actually when a group is an outcast roaming group for several hundred years. Opposite of Jehovas and Scientologists and what not
@@18_rabbit I was not saying that those two are similar to each other. I was saying that they both have cult aspects. I know a great deal about both groups, having personally experienced one, and my partner(who is Jewish from NY) having personally experienced the other. So, no negativity intended here just wanted to bring attention to the original point.
@@jones2277 There are definitely more extremes seen within organized religion! Most people just don't realize how crazy it can get, whatever religion may be the guise.
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Never joined one. Never talk to these types of people. But I am being watched 24/7. I have to keep my distance from other people to keep them safe. I don't even know what to do.
Right a lot of southern baptists say if you do not ask to be “ saved “ and accept Jesus Christ as your savior in front of the church congregation then you will not “go to heaven “.
This is my immediate family. I was the only girl that my parents had, and the oldest; so was the lucky one that was singled out for all these control tactics plus many other abuses. They destroyed me in so many ways but have zero concern for doing so….
My 3 autistic kids were raised with emotional narcissist abuse. My version of the world was stupid. He told the kids my emotions meant I was mentally ill. I wish I had known; but about 5 years ago I was bullied out of the family because I wouldn’t be controlled. Meanwhile the kids all have mates much older, from 5-22 years.
He now needs to look within who he thinks are “.true” Christian groups/churches. And he needs to look within his own faith group. I appreciate him reminding us of the known groups. Tell us something we don’t know. He’s afraid to call out the big ones.
wasn't Jesus himself the one saying you have to leave your family and everything behind and follow him? Also abandon your riches. This rings alarm bells with me tbh, anybody who told me this nowadays I would distrust that person. Way too good of a way to make a person totally dependent and isolating them. And what happens when you don't follow him, or don't bow down to god? Sounds pretty cultish to me inherently, follow this faith or you are on the wrong path bound for hell. Many people are just wordly, on the wrong path leading you astray but only us the Christians are on the narrow path. That kind of stuff is all straight from the Bible.
First I thought they’re jealous then when I faced the truth I was embarrassed when I realized he was living another life it was over on his terms I was able to flee with my children but when I strategically became free got the lawyer family support one step from freedom and his mother pulled me back only to endure more heartache not because of real love but because of finances and survival So sad Me and my adult children are doing fine now
Re: NXIM DOS branding - he failed to mention that the branding was initiated by the women to their protégés, also women, and their leverage was founded upon trust, blackmail, and coercion.
Just stumbled upon this channel but I am a huge fan of Rick Allen Ross and I will always stop to listen to this man. He's always got great knowledge, information, wisdom and advice. Thank you so much for this! Great great episode. Love the questions and the deep dives!
I dealt with this situation in a church by a church leader. They were seen as a “man of God” but all I got from him was a predatory vibe from the very beginning. Many people didn’t see this side(including a friend) so the hurt I experienced as a result of this was difficult, still haven’t gotten over it completely. The gaslighting is the worst because you think you’re the crazy one for picking up on these red flags when no one else sees it(they carefully choose their targets). I now know what grooming is and what to look for!
I was almost caught by est, but my husband and mother sat me down and told me there was a problem and to get out and not take any more seminars. Luckily, I listened to them!! Going along with a group and being forced to eat and do bathroom breaks on someone else's schedule is way too easy!! Mu husband's persuaded me try that seminar!! Took her another 7 years to get out, as well as alot of money!!❤️🐉💙💙🌈🌈😎😎
I was invited over to Werner Earhard's home 3 times. After watching him go berserk at his house staff, I confronted him and quit est. What an evil group!!!
I remember Jim Jones, I was a little girl growing up in South America Guyana. It was a sad and frightening time not far up the highway from my birth place. I didn't even know about narcissistic people.
So my partner is critical of any outsider who may provide me with an alternative perspective. When I insist on the validity of the outside influence, he says 'you are always right, aren't you?' 🤦🏻♀️
Een heel goede analyse die duidelijk maakt wat er kan spelen binnen religieuze kringen. Ook binnen algemeen erkende religies kunnen groepjes ontstaan rond een persoon met narcistische kenmerken, die de gelovigen tot onderwerping aan hun persoon probeert te brengen.
I once had a teacher who didn't want that his students have empathy (only compassion). He hadnt empathy at all, and was a psychopath. I was very quickly done with this "leader". Sadly alot of other people who following him... If he would say "kiss my feet" they would obey. Still healing from it.
Absolutely tremendous, Thank you so much to you both for this, It's always wise to be aware of the tactics and learn as much as you can, The bite model, Behaviour, information, thought and emotional control, NLP too, There is so much to it, And I'm glad I study what I study, Knowledge is power :-) Peace, love and respect to you both and everyone, Thank you universe, All glory, Praise and smiles to the most high :-)
I'm feeling pain because this brings me back to what my husband did to me for 10 years straight. Every day it was subtle emotional, mental, and and psychological abuse. It sucks and I hate him forever.
I’ve isolated with God. I had to understand that even if people want what’s best for you doesn’t give them the right to make you feel bad about yourself. My family most are very successful but their attitudes towards others disturbs me, yet I understand why they only want the best for me. I found myself in these toxic relationships that he wanted to control me in the worse way. I’ve been able to compare so I could make an informed decision about what I want for myself and right now it’s to grow a better relationship with myself and God.
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@LisaBilyeu Hej Hun, about the HAIR:
I take MSM ( MethylSulfonylMethane ) and after 3 months I had some new growth, baby hairs. It also seems to be good for other tissues like skin, bones, cartilage and lungs. Maybe it can help you too, but please do your own research.
If you decide to take it, start at a very low dose,. I started with 0,5gr/day and increased it by the same amount (0,5) each week. It's apparently also a detoxifyer and can't cause migraines, if one takes too much, too quickly. Drink lots of water with it, on an empty stomach, best is in the morning, since it can cause alertness or vivid dreams, when taken at night. I have a link for a Dutch product, but you'll probably find an equivalent wherever you are located at the moment.
See how it works, I think it prolongs the growth phase of the hair, but I'm not sure. So if you stop.. Long term.. it might... Stop working. I've skipped a day here and there because I forgot and I'm still good.
Thank you for sharing your struggles, you are not alone ♥
Here the 'link', just as an example, but it's in Dutch:
www. meditecheurope. nl/
himalaya-magnesium-kristalpoeder.html?gad_source=1
And thank you for the great interview!! ❤🕊 🙏
I'll look into the those minerals, too 😉 thank you for sharing!
At 22:45 deja vu 2020! Great interview, Lisa Thank you!!
People with no empathy are the most damaging people in the world
Damaged people are the most damaging people in the world....
People who are always looking for empathy are just as bad
@@OItsSasha it depends what they've done
Spot on ✋✌
@@2flowertwo537often they’re damaged but they can tell which babies will become psychopaths so they think it’s innate in some
When I get near toxic people, I feel an energy like something is 'foul' and it affects my sense of health and happiness.
Me too❤ I get instantly nauseous
You’re picking up on their aura. It spins big and angry and it’s red/hazy/dark in people like that.
@@antoniasachtleben Indeed. Biology is psychology.
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I noticed in my childhood I could notice it with certain women and it turned me off. But with man it was rather the opposite and I found it sort of attractive. I married such a man. 20 years circus life, not fun
people who lie, gaslight, triangulate, stonewall, unclear communication pattern, cheat, etc have a lack of empathy.
Psychopaths
💯😿
Gvmnt
How do we protect women and men from these evil people?
@@Adrienne-db9ih stay away from both
I just came out of a cult. It was in a hair salon where the owner demanded everyone to be loyal while he exploited us with long hours, terrible pay, no breaks or a lunch hour. He is quite talented, attractive, charismatic and extremely controlling. The salon is high-end and has a pretentious clientele. My cortisol levels became high and I started to gain weight, lose hair and now have other health issues. The weird thing is… that the grooming happened quite slowly. The younger stylists hold on to his every word and run into his office to kiss the ring like he is some kind of a God. I had no time to exercise because my sleep was disturbed and I was so tired when I got home that I even stopped flossing. These people use coercive control and the chronic stress plus the lack of sleep breaks you down. It is SO TOXIC!!!
So sorry you went through this just trying to earn a living.💙 He sounds like my narc ex with the same tactics, especially chronic sleep disruption. I felt guilty if I wasn't busy doing something when he was around. Coercive control and subtle, slow death of the target's soul. He had no empathy for any pain I felt. 😡🤦🏽♀️ So glad I got out!❤️🩹💜💜
The grooming is always slow, otherwise you’d wake up and leave much sooner.
Shocking and of course no unions etc.
you did the right thing to get away.
That goes on I imagine in film, theatre, modelling too.
In other areas including unionised labour they can create all sorts of tiers and allow bullying and be behind a whole lot of secret- covert bullying.
Unfortunately that’s how the hair industry is.. everywhere.
I’ve been hairdressing 32 years in Australia. The only way to continue in the field is to become self employed. Work from home. Put your boundaries in place when you service clients.
I had the exact same experience as a young lawyer in my first job, a media lawyers' office which handled very high profile media people cases. My two bosses literally sucked us dry.
“A trap is only a trap if you don't know about it. If you know about it, it's a challenge.”
― China Miéville, King Rat
Or in good German " Gefahr erkannt, Gefahr gebannt"...😅
I've made a promise to myself after I survived abusive manipulative, toxic parents. I will avoid these types of people: People who attempt to take autonomy away from me. Try to make me believe that I can not help myself and that I am incapable. Expect from me to give up my individuality and surrender or be submissive without question, - indefinitely. Making me believe that I am indebted to them or owe them my possessions or life. Creating an immense fear that I am doomed for eternity if I do not conform to a certain believe system.
You sound very similar to me. Expect some serious pushback that's designed to destroy any self belief you have as soon as you start being your own person. A person basically gets put through hell one way or another, when it comes to these folks. And tragically, it's often a case of 'out of the frying pan, into the fire', in that if you came from a family that was abusive, you're very likely to attract others out in the world who are the same. Then when you try to break free and become your own person, you get stepped up abuse that's designed to stamp out any flicker of growing self belief. And you are made to feel that the whole world is against you, because they deliberately cut you off from hearing any voice other than theirs' and they abuse you in secret often as well, all to maintain their false image of perfect and infallibly good and right.
It's like fighting a vicious cancer. You get worn down repeatedly by these sick minded pieces of crap. And they are so talented at manipulating so many around them. Everything is designed to make you feel isolated and crazy, stupid, wrong, worthless and pathetic.
I just copied this into my journal. I applaud you for writing this.
🙌🙌🙌👑🌟🌞🦋👏👏👏👌👌👌💪💪💪❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
I felt every word of this to my core! Thank you! 🙌🏽
I'm glad you survived and learned from experience! Courageous woman. 👍
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My mother's cousin was a Jehovah's witness and she was in a very abusive marriage and in order to leave her husband and divorce it meant having to leave the church and all of her friends and support system as well.
She left all of it behind and finally began to heal but it took years to undo all of those years of damage from the cult
The Jehovah Witnesses are the worst most destructive cult on earth. Clear evidence since 1990. They put ne in solitary confinement for decades with no support.
Yep. You’re supposed to stay together pretty much no matter what 😨
Me too. Born into the cult, father and husband used the cult to control me into total subservience. Left church and husband at the same time. At 40. Lost home, everything. At 82 still struggling. My son took over absolute control of my life, is a carbon copy of his dad, bully's me without mercy. An emergency room doctor said to me last nite, "3I give you permission to disown your son." I'm 82, can barely walk without pain, in poor physical and mental health because of abuse all my life. No car. Or support system. Unsafe housing. It's terrifying.
Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult. Narcs can get in, and yaes a lot of damage is done.
Distance yourself from these bad associates the scriptures tell you to do that. But do notblame the true God Jehovah. He alone is faithfull. Id these people really knew the scriptures
The would know we luve in very bad times. God is loyal to those who love Him did they not ever read psalms 91, 94 and Isaiah 65? The take alook at what He promised in revalation 21. Qw are still imperfect but Jehovah our loving God, has recorded in his word the bible, help for every situation. Do you think He does not see. These evil wrongdoers will answer to Jehovah. I am waiting on that too.
This describes my husband. I am not allowed to question anything. Thanks for confirming how necessary it is for me to get out of this relationship while a shred of my personality remains
Do so quietly when he's not home. Pack your things and all important ID + documents. Don't tell anyone who knows him where you are going. File for divorce through a lawyer. Be safe! I went through something similar. Men like that can become very dangerous if they know you're planning to leave.
@@Linda-uo8hh Thanks for excellent advice. I have no desire to threaten to leave - my desire is to LEAVE.
Perhaps you can pray to God that He will help you and to do the right decision.
Be safe. I am about to do the same with my boyfriend.
Plan quietly and carefully and then act quickly
This is a great.way also to identify people with npd or sociopaths,they are always right,never wrong.
That's my sister.
It can merely just be competitiveness and ego. Sibling rivalry. People have a need to be right and don't like different opinions.
Only a qualified licensed mental health professional can diagnose someone in repeated sessions.
Everyone has some narcissistic tendencies
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Know yourself and your attachment style. Ken Reid clinician, Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast.
David Tian PhD and Sam Vaknin PhD have educational podcasts on The Red Pill.
This kind of control after a certain amount of time changes brain chemistry!
EXACTLY, like childhood trauma, DV, brainwashing and Stockholm syndrome.
Yes- you are not alone from childhood abuse to DV and it is all
brain washing. The more you resist the harder they work. ❤️🩹
No. There’s not scientific proof of that.
Have you looked into Dr. Daniel Amen work or check out the ACE score@@mariapilarme
There's a LOT, provided by serious scientists@mariapilarme
We are ruled by psychopaths.
Only the strong survive is their mantra
The GOP devolved into the Gang of Psychopaths. I don't think anybody can argue with that looking at who they're running for president
Where was this man when I was coming out of my “faith “ of 42 years and started dating after a 22 year marriage? I have been in a cult of millions and a cult of 1 person. Thank God I learned to listen to that voice inside that is really God within and wants me to be free. Thank you Lisa!
Thanks for not shaming the victim.
Amazing how much more productive the conversation is without it.
Oh wow love how incredibly well this man explains exactly what I have been trying to get across to people in regard to my relationship and marriage to my husband and the way he brainwashed our children. As well as a relationship with a narcissist. I feel completely seen.
Amen !
There are rules for thee but not for the narcissists. They will tell you to stop socializing with so and so and if you disobey, they will claim you've betrayed them for associating someone they hate. However, if you bring up the slightest criticism about any of their friends: "HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF MY FRIEND!" Even if their friend is an obviously horrible person, they will take any criticism as a personal attack. The narcissist will also claim you're being controlling if you tell them you do like one of their friends and suggest they not associate with them. But they will try to micromanage your relationships because they know better.
They just want to devalue you, you are shite on their shoe
Sounds just like my ex best friend. I let her get into my mind, I was young and naive. I sabotaged a lot of potential friendships because of her jealousy. Thank God she's no longer in my life
This is what my mother was aiming for. She did not succeed but she did a massive amount of damage
There are cult families.
My mom is the same
I think Karen Capenters family too
I would think any family with at least one narcissist would behave like a mini cult. My family did, the narc is my dad.
Toxic Parents by Susan Forward
Protecting The Gift by Gavin De Becker
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker
Men That Can't Love by Stephen A Carter
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft
Women That Love Too Much by Robin Norwood
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Facing Love Addiction by Pia Melody
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Know yourself and your attachment style.
Ken Reid clinician, Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
Sam Vaknin PhD has educational podcasts on Cluster B disorders and other mental health topics
Harvard Professor The Real Reason Marriages Fall Apart with Dr Arthur Brooks podcast. .
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast.
Harvard Professor The Real Reason Marriages Fall Apart with Dr Arthur Brooks podcast
Toxic Parents by Susan Forward
Protecting The Gift by Gavin De Becker
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker 🌞
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare 🌞
Men That Can't Love by Stephen A Carter - avoidant attachment
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
I Hear You by Michael Sorenson
Non Violent Communication by Marshall B Rosenberg
Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix-IMAGO
Wired For Love by Dr Stan Tatkin -attachment styles
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant ❤️
What The Heck Is Self Love Anyways? by Jonathon Aslay ❤️
Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Facing Love Addiction by Pia Melody
The Language Of Emotions by Karla McLaren
Emotional Intimacy by Robert Masters
Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goldman
The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind.The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
8 Dates by John and Julie Gottman defines the blueprint of HEALTHY relationships. It clarifies.
Are You The One For Me Knowing Who Is Right And Who Is Wrong by Barbara De Angelis
The 7 Principles For Making Marriage Work by John Gottman and Nan Silver
Know yourself and your attachment style.
Ken Reid clinician Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
David Tian PhD and Sam Vaknin PhD have educational podcasts on The Red Pill
Being raised by a narcissist and all of the emotional damage that goes along with that, sets you up for a lifetime of involvement with narcissists. You say to yourself that you don't want any part of that but because your idea of normalcy is off kilter, you attract these types over and over again. Until you wake up and discover the source of the problem. See Dr. Les Carter and the guy who coined the phrase "self love deficit." Can't remember his name at the moment.
Taised by a narcissist too. I keep on attracting them despite therapy and jours of learning about narcissism etc ... As soon as I see a narcissist sign, I stop everything.no contact straight away. However.... I keep on attracting them. Even though there has been a two years gap between relationships. I Can see some coming miles away.... But I Can still get trapped. I am pissed AT myself!!
..." because your idea of normalcy is off kilter". Spot on!👍
I think it’s Ross Rosenberg who coined “self love deficit”
Be aware of on-line cults.
Be aware of cults in higher education.
I have a close friend who works for the largest Uni in AZ. He is required to attend these meetings with the director of culture where he has a very similar experience described here
@@maryc9312whoa
Beware political cults and “news” stations dedicated to propping up a cult leader.
Interesting
And multi-level marketing
Whatever happened to the old 1960's saying, "Question Authority" ? Unless someone is in a military command structure, no one really has any authority over another person. So, if you feel like you're being repressed or manipulated, QUESTION the person who's making you feel that way. Or just get away from them. Permanently.
Dealing with narcs is a lesson of life.
With lifelong lessons...
@@earthrooster1969seriously, I’m 37 and I’ve had at least 25 years of my life dealing with a massive narcissist!
Especially when they run for president...
@@JustMe-andyou3haha
This is gold. This should be taught at an early age. Would definitely prepare people on how to survive in this world what to look out for.
Its allmost impossible.
We are from birth manipulated by our parents, who are allready manipulated from birth.
When you give birth in hospital, you are allready doomed, because EVERYONE even in hospital is allready manipulated.
I understood recently, the last years...we are in a big cult being born in and govs, industries, institutions, schools allready manipulate everybody to be a future gullible slave, costumer to make the happy few rich.
We have allmost no chance to get smart.
Everybody in the system will make shure, you will be dumb and stay dumb.
We citizens are just puppets on a string and we are surrounded by psychopaths, sociopaths, from bottom down, to bottom up.
Psychopaths, sociopaths like to rule.
Imagine all people in powerful positions of anykind...and the people around you without positions and choosing to dominating, manipulating you, being unempathetic...
We are all in constant stress, because we live surrounded by humans, primates.
It is natural allmost.
Some are covert,others are overt and everything in between.
The exceptions are seen as weak, because they are genuinly empathic people. This people suffer the most.
I so much agree
My husband hides behind religion.. no intimacy at all for 20 years.. intimidates me to not leave instead of loving me. He texted me in July saying he never loved me... i have just been a slave, i feel so used and disgusting.. i am filing for divorce right now..
Leave in silence.
Leave and put your dogs, cats in safty no matter what first.
Children also.
Step for step.
Do not forget..., if someone feels...they lose power over you...leaving them...they become extra dangerous.
Even if he looks calm at first, accepting...it is a trap before the storm bursts.
Many men kill their wifes, ex- wufes, girlfriends...as soon the men feel the woman wants to leave or/and gets stronger not taking BS anymore.
Killing kids, pets is also common.
So use your brain.
Let no one know where you will stay/live.
Make shure he does not find you.
Change work, the town you lived, your numberplate of your car, your car, bank accounts, bank.
Please...take care.
Please.
Make sure you’ve got money for rent and moving, utilities being set up ect. Be safe doing this, sending love 💜💜💜& Healing ✨😁✨✨, ❤ Australia
Contact your nearest Domestic Violence advocacy center. Even if his abuse was never physical, they will still assist you in making a safe escape plan and connect you with financial resources.
He has knocked your self perception of being desirable wlby withholding intimacy! It's cruel deliberate to put you in a cyrcle of feeling like breadcrumbs are heaven sent. Destroy all and run in silence. He is sent from the Devil
Plan carefully before telling him because that type will pull every trick to see you left struggling.
I love how you dive right in on the topic
First two minutes and you’ve already described my entire family. Here for this. ❤
Thank you for having this guest on, and addressing this very important and timely issue.
So glad to see so many responses about controlling parents. If we were abused by our parents and/or family members, it’s difficult to see when we’re being manipulated and abused.
It sets you up perfectly , bc it's so FAMILIAR!! I was DRAWN to it, and trusted him implicitly!!
This is such an important video. Thank you for hosting this guest so well. I learned a lot.
Coercive control is their favourite control tactic.
Indeed!
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast.
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker 🌞
Without Conscience by Robert D Hare 🌞
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft
Men That Can't Love ( avoidant attachment)
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Boundaries by Henry Cloud
Women Who Love Too Much by Robin Norwood 🌞
Facing Codependency by Pia Melody
Facing Love Addiction by Pia Melody
I Hear You by Michael Sorenson
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant
What The Heck Is Self Love Anyways? by Jonathon Aslay
Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix-IMAGO
Wired For Love by Dr Stan Tatkin (attachment styles)
The Language Of Emotions by Karla McLaren
Emotional Intimacy by Robert Masters
Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goldman
Harvard Professor The Real Reason Marriages Fall Apart with Dr Arthur Brooks podcast
Know yourself and your attachment style.
Ken Reid clinician, Sam Vaknin PhD and David Tian PhD have educational podcasts on attachment styles and other topics.
David Tian PhD and Sam Vaknin PhD have educational podcasts on The Red Pill.
They live reproductive coercion too, control women through children is a big one for lots of abusive men
@@vikki8699 Indeed
Spot A Narcissist Or Psychopath On The First Date - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
ALSO look out for those sons of cult leaders. my exs mom had a church cult (christian cult) and I always saw him as a victim but it turns out it was covert narcissisim and as soon as we started doing things like spending days togther, cooking together...mainly anything outside dates, he became SHOCKINGLY AND SMOOTHLY abusive. It was his second nature.
I love you, I am going through this now minus the Christian part, and thank you for making this comment ❤
THIS!!! Im so sorry you went through that too. My abusive ex's father was a cult leader who "dissapeared" and has assumed to have murdered his girlfriend, daughter (my exs half sister) and himself in the outback.
I was with my ex for 2 years and he abused me to where I couldn't sleep/ eat due to being constantly in survival mode.. it's taken another 2 years to get the ability to properly eat and sleep back. He would play the victim and beg me not to go every time I tried to leave. Covert narcissism (and bipolar) with a sociopathic side, I thought he was going to kill me in the middle of the bush after he abused me and left me out there with no reception, his maniac smile and cold empty eyes getting joy out of watching me be so helpless and losing all my power to him said it all.
Yes, SMOOTHLY abusive. That’s the word!
My sister‘s boyfriend is liek that. He flies under the radar, because everyone finds him so calm and nice. He‘s also very kind to my sister.
But to me, he shows a different face. I look kind and gentle. That’s why he thought, he can act out on me. I proved him wrong by immediately putting him back in his place. He managed to make my sister and her daughter believe that i am an aggressive person and overreact.
Thankfully, my parents believe me, because they connect all the dots: my sister is domineering and he subordinates to her, because he loves her, doesn’t seem to mind, because he’s always calm and quiet. Now this story has twisted for my parents: he seems like a ticking time bomb for them now, someone, who doesn’t voice his opinion, but eats up his anger and takes it out on peoplelike me, who he mistook for weak (obviously, he thought gentle = defenseless). They’re kind of proud that i gave him a lesson: people, who, appear gentle, can kick your ass, when you cross their limits.
My abusive wasband’s father was a “minister”. He was a very skilled and very educated on all of these tactics and at 21 years old- had no idea who i was really marrying and did all of these tactics. When you begin to wake up to what is going on- people to know that you do not ever confront them but make plans quietly to get out if you can. If they think they are losing control of you- your life will become a living hell. The amount of recovery needed from this is unsurmountable. We need recovery centers for this abuse
Christian is not a cult it’s a spirituality do your research. The wicked devil worshipers yt people used it to manipulate people.
God's unfailing love transforms us. Thank you Jesus 🙌
Religions are the biggest cults!
Such a crucial topic to discuss and know!! Thank you! We have to learn to use our common sense and listen to our gut. Someone can be brilliant, educated, and at the same time evil. People can use their smarts for evil, can’t just trust because they’re intelligent.
Came to watch this as a survivor of abusive relationships. As an Ex-Mormon, my alarms went off with so many things he said. After I left, I realized it was a cult. This only validated all of my cult points about the Mormon church. The old 15 men in suits who run the cult (Prophet and Apostles) love to say “Doubt your Doubts”; ‘Don’t question church leaders even if they are wrong!”; told to “Stay in the boat”-don’t wander astray; always told not to hang out with people who didn’t believe like you (Utah REALLY used to be very cliquish); still practice polygamy in that men can be Sealed to more than one woman in the Temple. It goes on & on.
Don't trust ANYONE who says it implies, "Even if I'm WRONG, I'm STILL RIGHT!!!!!"
Gaslighting, run for the hills!!!!!
Gosh ! Good for you for breaking FREE 🏃🏻♀️
What 😱.... Glad you're out. You're growing your power of empathy and wisdom by the day
Utah is still cliquish. Gossip, judging, & backbiting are their strengths.
And it's "the only true church." Without the temple ceremony, you will not be with your family after death. Total cult: complete with a founding "prophet" that sexually exploited female members.
Amazing, I needed this.. I was in the Jehova’s Witness cult…. It really messed with my head and I suffered on a mental and emotional level and I didnt know why until I spoke to a therapist
@@Girlwithapurse03 I'm so sorry to hear this girl. We compare victimology of narcissistic abusive intimate partnerships, or scapegoat family Dynamics identical to cult dynamic of abuse.
It takes us years to deprogram off of the damage that's been done in that kind of atmosphere with the cult leader AKA narcissistic psychopath, and the cult followers AKA friends family in-laws and associates thereof.
I validate you and I'm here to remind you that you're a badass.
You are beautiful and lovable and intelligent and capable and don't ever forget you're beautiful worth!!!
That question Jesus couldn’t answer has nothing to do with what you’re portraying. .theBible y u says there is only one faith , one baptism. And if they are to be in agreement they all have to be learning the same thing and believe the same thing. Make it make sense. There is a truth. And only the truth set you from the lies and superstitions.
@@forensicbadassprofiling bingo! so glad to see that more ppl are starting to wake up to this. I've now watched a woman friend, former brief gf, married to a classic asshole type personality guy who finally used "psychological torture" on her when she had a broken foot as her first ever malady, and she was not healing perfectly rapidly. She almost left him at that moment but decided not to. I informed her in writing of all these basic ideas in the law, in psychology etc. I am an assertive middle man and many men have done a LOT to try to assist the abused ppl in this world. Many other men have not of course and many have not bcuz they actually quietly admire highly dominant males and try to emulate them in various ways. It's basic sociology or anthro, and we can and must start moving the needle faster. In the US, our personal safety now depends on it bcuz obviously society has socioeconomically fully fragmented, with apparently the rise over past two decades of a whole separate gray/black mkt economy, etc and related levels of poverty not seen in a hundred years. This creates issues that are related to all of this. Many of us who are middle aged and not rich are even considering these factors in our future planning for where to live, possibly ultimately even leaving the country for either long periods or forever, if affordable. Imho, as someone who studied political sci at the best institution pretty much in the U.S., our society is far too fascist-adjacent in a right-wing sense almost entirely , and it's actually getting quite dangerous. That's ALWAYS the case when society embraces the widespread carrying of firearms. There's literally NEVER been a society that does that without deeply dysfunctional reasons that historically always preceeded social violence, even if 'just' increased violence in interpersonal disputes, even if 'just' roadrage, etc. This is how criminology/sociology sees it and it's plainly simply accurate. Wake up and vote Blue like your ass depends on it.
@@PeggyHartman-e2qthe Bible and Jesus are a cult too. You just described it: “only me”
I was in it too, and even though they don't have one leader but a group of men called the governing body, I believe they are a cult. My family and I have been suffering from the permanent scars
Excellent interview! Thank you, Lisa.
14:09 REPETITION. Social pressures + repetition = new group identity
@@kristinmeyer489 people r sheep
This is good info
My ex has these characteristic traits
He has re-married twice
I stay away and my adult children are aware and do not fall for his shenanigans
He would say you’re negative and a nag and this is what he would say to our circle of friends b/c I spoke of the issues and facts they thoughts were she’s negative but I was crying for help and support and he presented himself well Everyone was duped
Now everyone knows different since I was able to divorce and recover
My husband and his family and friends too (except for his oldest sister), he brainwashed our two children, thankfully my son is beginning to see the truth. This man gives me so much validation, as I’ve been trying to explain this for years.
I happened to see this I worked for a well known insurance company that displayed many of the behaviors described. I learned a valuable lesson but pray others learn before they take a loss … good stuff thanks for sharing
Hahaha my mom, the leader that no one can question. It’s so sad how my brother and sister crumble to her and remain silent when she is doing damage to the family and even to herself. Her mom before that.
Hey Lisa girl, thank you another badass interview.
Sadly, his opening statements about questioning a leader when you feel they're wrong, and you get attacked either by him or the other people in the group, is what I see everywhere on social media.
I have finance n investment patreon groups I belong to like that w "teachers".
Ive had so called world renowned leading dating coaches like that in masters classes.
I have astrology apps w like that, where the group think is dangerous if you disagree with one of the "leaders".
I even see it in different UA-cam channels content creators when you disagree or ask a question that may contradict the content.
It's come to a point where you have to be so careful what you say online nowadays. Who you talk to nowadays.
What groups you belong to nowadays.
Because what he's describing is not only found in domestic abuse with intimate partnerships and their cult like families....
But you find it all over social media groups and apps. Even down to your neighborhood and community Social Services human resources, and political, and judicial groups.
Cult like leaders are infiltrating the fabric of every institution across the globe.
And that's just the reality of the situation.
I agree. Social media encourages and rewards people's narcissistic behavior, and submission to the delusions of narcissists. And cultural narcissism can and does operate in every kind of social group. It's terrifying.
Yes, I see this too!
Andrew Tate, another beautiful example
What Astrologists are you referring to?
Yup! 100%.
The reason that victims don’t come forward is simply that nobody believes that these crimes happened to them as they sound so crazy that people just label the victims insane themselves, especially police. And most people will actually be as stupid to go back to the cult and confront them hoping to get an honest response, resulting in converting the victim into the cults #1 target and which then mostly will get the actual victim k🔪lled by the cult members or a 3rd person who could be influenced by some lies they made up about the victim that seem to be true but aren’t. So as long as people aren’t thinking as individuals but as part of a seemingly higher groupthink mindset, they will easily be converted into unempathetic even ice cold psychopaths as this is the outcome of every single group out there that places the leader above the individuals to make them better in something or as someone in the underhand exchange of their own personality. (This behavior is the exact behavior that all Cluster B people use to gain narcissistic supply or in other words „human energy sources“ as their life batteries… the more the better for them. Please educate yourselves about this topic through people working in the field here on YT even if there NPDs themselves and not any random victims of NPD abuse. Then you’re able to save lives out there. Soo many people are victims of their abuse, you wouldn’t believe it. 🥺
Can confirm. When I tried to reveal my ex narc abuser, nearly everyone didn’t believe me and turned their backs on me. I would have been better off not saying anything. She had already preprogrammed everyone to be against me.
@@the-genie-in-a-bottle I can absolutely personally confirm this to be true!
Gratitude for escaping and surviving trauma bond relationships and cults.! ❤️🙏
The Hoffman Process by John and Julie Gottman
The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
The Body Keeps The Score Brain Mind And The Healing Of Trauma-Bessel Van Der Kolk
Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant
What The Heck Is Self Love Anyways? by Jonathon Aslay
Thank you Lisa for that wonderful information! I really appreciate your time and curiosity to make this kind of work/knowledge available to all of us. 🤗
The Catholic church qualifies. Most religions do.
I’ve seen in in New Age too.
But I have seen good there too
Thank you for educating the public about these kind of disorders...
🙏
I loved how he broke down true Christianity is free to whoever believes in Christ Jesus, you don't need anything else. Please be careful of false prophets coming in the name of the Lord, know the Lord for yourself.
OMG that sounds like my husband's family. Everyone knew his mother was a functioning alcoholic and yet she was the leader of the family. She was absolutely ridiculous but typically what she said and thought governed the entire family.
We all walked on eggshells around her. She domineered all the major holidays and got visibly upset of I wanted to spend time with my family for the holidays.
I was also very blinded by my husband. He made me focus on his mother as the problem. Meanwhile, telling me neither he nor his mother were to blame for their behavior. His mother because he always blamed the alcohol and him due to his faulty memory and learning disorders.
These people are insane and it seems like since my husband's mother died, he and his sister have taken on their mother's demons and slightly more of her behavior. It's frightening.
Really cant handle being around alcohol nowadays due to all the alcoholics and their cray antics (and they "forget" bc they've blacked out so much) I've had to deal with. All the DUI car crash fatalities also makes me anxious driving now ... crazy you can get a 12 pk of beer at the gas station
Similar to my husband and his family.
My ex's entire family structure was built around his narcissistic borderline extremely abusive father.
@@latebloomer7191glad he’s your EX. Be exceedingly grateful for that
This is one of my favorite topics, thanks for posting.
Thank you for letting this man speak. His english was very easy to understand 👍
Thank you ever so much for this education and realism into this world of humanity. These are hard core truths. ❤
Thank you, Lisa! This was a great guest and I really loved your questions!
Love this podcast, well explained and detailed. Thanksm goodness I have recovered from 25 years of spiritual abuse from a church/sect that my parents were the leaders of. All that was said here is just accurate. Will save this video for future reference.
I was a part of a church that was constantly asking for more money. One day the pastor said he & elder of the church talked about putting life insurance policies on the church members. That was my family's breaking point. We haven't gone back or talked to anyone in that church. I remember last year when I was very sick I didn't feel any love from that church. I really haven't had much love from many church ppl I was otrisized from a church in Dallas Tx because a man from the came to my home to watch a TV movie with me. He acted a fool because I wouldn't allow him to use my bathroom while my daughter was taking a bath. I mentioned that to someone & they told others. No one believed me!!!
Thank God you stood up to him and protected your daughter
@@dpharrison7 of course I will stand up for my children & all children. We better watch the church ppl. I'm a preacher's daughter. I know hypocrites when I listen to them for a little while.
Wolves in sheep's clothing.
Not being mean.. but he probably was focusing on your daughter, assumed you were single, and went to your house to check out your vulnerability.
@@MonaLisa-lu8zi I truly believe u. There are many of those ppl around!!!
A guy I was so into and thought he was enlightened and was looking at him the way this guy describes… I later discovered was just a narcissist :(
He became extremely verbally and emotionally abusive when I started saying no to what he wanted. Luckily I was no physically by him but the scary thing is that I even considered the crazy, controlling demands he stared making… I am very lucky I got away from him. He was so incredibly hard emotionally. The trauma bond was very very strong in a short period of time.
He creeped me how one time before it turned bad when he mentioned the term grooming… I was wondering why he even knew that term since he was from India…. That and he said a few times that maybe he would end of being a famous guru. That country is FULL of narcissistic cult leaders abusing people under the guise of spiritual leaders.
He may be famous one day or have some following but I sure hope not.
I had a stalker and he had other men gang stalk me and everything he’s saying is adding up to the experience I had. Tried to strip me down change my environment and trying to re program how I thought in my mind. I call myself a survivor I thought I was going crazy but I snapped out of it and decided this person is not going to destroy my life or drive me into suicide.
We need to also bring awareness to and talk about Jehovah's witnesses, and Orthodox Jews in NY... Both groups have strong cult aspects.
Yess!! I suffered consequences of the Jehova’s Witness cult! It really cause confusion, emotional damage, relationship damages… it was so bad.
yes and no. Actually various religious groups like those two are very diff from each other in fact. You need to read up on them and the sociological aspects. Those two are entirely different. Orthodox jews are literally a tribal entity of ppl who have only survived bcuz they stuck together as exactly that social unit that looks so conformist. That's normal sociology actually when a group is an outcast roaming group for several hundred years. Opposite of Jehovas and Scientologists and what not
@@18_rabbit I was not saying that those two are similar to each other. I was saying that they both have cult aspects. I know a great deal about both groups, having personally experienced one, and my partner(who is Jewish from NY) having personally experienced the other. So, no negativity intended here just wanted to bring attention to the original point.
Most religions have cult-like aspects. Look at Catholic nuns. How different are they from the groups you mentioned
@@jones2277 There are definitely more extremes seen within organized religion! Most people just don't realize how crazy it can get, whatever religion may be the guise.
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Never joined one. Never talk to these types of people. But I am being watched 24/7. I have to keep my distance from other people to keep them safe. I don't even know what to do.
Right a lot of southern baptists say if you do not ask to be “ saved “ and accept Jesus Christ as your savior in front of the church congregation then you will not “go to heaven “.
There are many degrees to this type of cultish thinking.
This is my immediate family. I was the only girl that my parents had, and the oldest; so was the lucky one that was singled out for all these control tactics plus many other abuses. They destroyed me in so many ways but have zero concern for doing so….
Jonestown made me wake-up totally.😮❤😂
Lisa your channel is amazing!!! I am learning a lot, thanks thanks!!!
So sad when they don't feel EMPATHY. Compassion for them and yourself.😮❤😂
My 3 autistic kids were raised with emotional narcissist abuse. My version of the world was stupid. He told the kids my emotions meant I was mentally ill. I wish I had known; but about 5 years ago I was bullied out of the family because I wouldn’t be controlled. Meanwhile the kids all have mates much older, from 5-22 years.
Well done for escaping! Só sorry that this terrible thing happened to you!
I like how he has distinguished between true Christianity and cult like groups
He now needs to look within who he thinks are “.true” Christian groups/churches. And he needs to look within his own faith group. I appreciate him reminding us of the known groups. Tell us something we don’t know. He’s afraid to call out the big ones.
wasn't Jesus himself the one saying you have to leave your family and everything behind and follow him? Also abandon your riches. This rings alarm bells with me tbh, anybody who told me this nowadays I would distrust that person. Way too good of a way to make a person totally dependent and isolating them.
And what happens when you don't follow him, or don't bow down to god? Sounds pretty cultish to me inherently, follow this faith or you are on the wrong path bound for hell. Many people are just wordly, on the wrong path leading you astray but only us the Christians are on the narrow path. That kind of stuff is all straight from the Bible.
@@mariekev-j8dking James of king James Bible was a 33rd degree freemason. Ultimate cult. Should explain alot.
Came here out of a destructive spiritual group. Please be careful guys, 🙏.
First I thought they’re jealous then when I faced the truth I was embarrassed when I realized he was living another life it was over on his terms I was able to flee with my children but when I strategically became free got the lawyer family support one step from freedom and his mother pulled me back only to endure more heartache not because of real love but because of finances and survival
So sad
Me and my adult children are doing fine now
But they are jealous. They are always jealous and vindictive personalities 😢
Ive known a lot of narcissists who were yoga teachers
Excellent informative discussion! Thank you! And I really love the dark hair, beautiful!
I have seen this cult behavior play out in a yoga studio recently with the main jogi as the cult leader.
Oh me too, more than once
@@vickip5275 Indeed. It's common with personal trainers as well.
The Gift Of Fear by Gavin De Becker.
Coercive Control - Sam Vaknin podcast 🌞
What a fascinating talk! And I have to ask, who else thinks DJT the babyman fits the description of a cult leader! He checks every single box.
Most politicians check those boxes.
He has conned almost half of the people in the US.
@@PuddilyOopsName another politician parts of the public worship and their followers are never critical of, please.
@@Xfhcgnjffhjmjvfgfor real, they let a dementia ridden corrupt man go completely unquestioned all this time yet pick apart djt.
Re: NXIM DOS branding - he failed to mention that the branding was initiated by the women to their protégés, also women, and their leverage was founded upon trust, blackmail, and coercion.
Just stumbled upon this channel but I am a huge fan of Rick Allen Ross and I will always stop to listen to this man. He's always got great knowledge, information, wisdom and advice. Thank you so much for this! Great great episode. Love the questions and the deep dives!
Welcome homie! And thank you for your kind words!
I dealt with this situation in a church by a church leader. They were seen as a “man of God” but all I got from him was a predatory vibe from the very beginning. Many people didn’t see this side(including a friend) so the hurt I experienced as a result of this was difficult, still haven’t gotten over it completely. The gaslighting is the worst because you think you’re the crazy one for picking up on these red flags when no one else sees it(they carefully choose their targets). I now know what grooming is and what to look for!
I've had this same experience
The military is a very skilled cult creator
In a way it’s true!
You mean government organizations. Like FBI, CIA, IRS.
Cough covld 19 cough
@SchoolOfUnlearning3 in every way !
Some are easy brain washed!
I don’t understand it how that’s possible!
It’s fascinating! This guy is brilliant at explaining cult culture!
Imagine your own family hating you tomorrow - that’s how. We have a primal fear of abandonment
I was almost caught by est, but my husband and mother sat me down and told me there was a problem and to get out and not take any more seminars. Luckily, I listened to them!!
Going along with a group and being forced to eat and do bathroom breaks on someone else's schedule is way too easy!!
Mu husband's persuaded me try that seminar!! Took her another 7 years to get out, as well as alot of money!!❤️🐉💙💙🌈🌈😎😎
I was invited over to Werner Earhard's home 3 times. After watching him go berserk at his house staff, I confronted him and quit est. What an evil group!!!
Amazing information ❤
I'd say anyone trying to get you away from healthy support groups because family members aren't always the best support group.
Good point
I remember Jim Jones, I was a little girl growing up in South America Guyana. It was a sad and frightening time not far up the highway from my birth place. I didn't even know about narcissistic people.
Cultism is everywhere
Even in the schools with the weird PTA parents.
@@mariapilarme Yep! Btw, have you read Pedagogy of the Oppressed?
@@BL-sd2qwI need to read this *takes notes
@@mariapilarmeschools ARE indoctrination programs!
There was a DOCTOR and a PSYCHOLOGIST on staff . FOR SHAME ON THE Profession!!
Lisa, very well-prepared interview, excellent questions and good flow.
I love your show !!!
This episode was sooooooo goood!!! Thank you Lisa.
So my partner is critical of any outsider who may provide me with an alternative perspective. When I insist on the validity of the outside influence, he says 'you are always right, aren't you?' 🤦🏻♀️
Lisa I really like your hair without the braids and it looks much thicker and healthier. Thanks for the info
Een heel goede analyse die duidelijk maakt wat er kan spelen binnen religieuze kringen. Ook binnen algemeen erkende religies kunnen groepjes ontstaan rond een persoon met narcistische kenmerken, die de gelovigen tot onderwerping aan hun persoon probeert te brengen.
Lisa my Girl! This dark hair looks so fabulous on you! 😍😍🔥🔥 Stunning!✨
Excellent presentation 🎉
I once had a teacher who didn't want that his students have empathy (only compassion). He hadnt empathy at all, and was a psychopath. I was very quickly done with this "leader". Sadly alot of other people who following him... If he would say "kiss my feet" they would obey.
Still healing from it.
"...one of these people was a doctor..."
wow!
"...an orthopedic surgeon..."
oh, that checks out.
Oh my gosh, this man is offering gold! Thank you!
You're welcome! It's so important to protect ourselves right?
Absolutely tremendous, Thank you so much to you both for this, It's always wise to be aware of the tactics and learn as much as you can, The bite model, Behaviour, information, thought and emotional control, NLP too, There is so much to it, And I'm glad I study what I study, Knowledge is power :-) Peace, love and respect to you both and everyone, Thank you universe, All glory, Praise and smiles to the most high :-)
This is fantastic information. 🙏🏽
Wow ! I am not into these psychopaths/ narcissists……. But sounds a bit like Andrew Tate( he wanted to tattoo ‘his women’.
I'm feeling pain because this brings me back to what my husband did to me for 10 years straight. Every day it was subtle emotional, mental, and and psychological abuse. It sucks and I hate him forever.
40:48 Not just cult leaders and abusive partners, learned helplessness also sounds like what a narcissistic parent does to their child as well.
Yep. I'm trying to break my way out of that.
I’ve isolated with God. I had to understand that even if people want what’s best for you doesn’t give them the right to make you feel bad about yourself. My family most are very successful but their attitudes towards others disturbs me, yet I understand why they only want the best for me. I found myself in these toxic relationships that he wanted to control me in the worse way. I’ve been able to compare so I could make an informed decision about what I want for myself and right now it’s to grow a better relationship with myself and God.
So good! Thank you for having Rick Allen Ross on Women Of Impact.
My aunt says, some things I say are far fetched. Sometimes I am when I'm deliberately silly. But sometimes I'm serious about like what you're saying.