Had to be a bit of Charlie Watts today! Have always loved this drum intro, even if there was an element of error about it when first played! The crosses at the beginning of my notation are simply marking the quarter note during Keith Richards' guitar intro and are not to be played. Notation here - available to all today: drive.google.com/file/d/1faWngZd8AxQEh445yAIIHLXIX6Vcx39Z/view?usp=sharing And groovescribe practice-along version for you here too: gscribe.com/share/1ZY3Ga5cnDuwuy7W8 Start Me Up drumless backing track is here: ua-cam.com/video/bqy6IGMGjzo/v-deo.html Mike :)
The thing I always admired most about Charlie Watts was his seriousness when performing. No showing off, not a lot of showing off, just calm perfection. A very elegant gentleman.
Just played this yesterday at The Bitter End, and probably came in too early, lol. I used to play the hell out of this song when it came out in '81, a year or so after I started playing. Great tutorial. : )
Thanks a lot for this, Mike! We are just adding this song to our repertoire and I never did understand those opening bars. When I do covers, I like to always replicate the drummers as close as I can. Yes, I make them my own, but I always like to inject some of the original signature sounds of the drummer I am covering and this with that funny opening is one of those I want to replicate.
Pandemic life. In the San Francisco Bay Area, I just joined a rock band, 2nd rehearsal coming up, playing this song, needed help & I found you. The companion drum notation is in my pocket. Thanks Mike!
The reason the beginning is like that was due to its origin as a demo. They tried the track in a reggae style multiple times…as a throw away they tried once as a rock track in the middle. A few years later they needed tracks for the Tattoo album in 81. They found this old take and went with it…they were stuck with the intro as it’s in the middle of the reggae versions of the tune…which might explain why it’s a bit back to front.
Thanks Simon, yes I've heard the so-called "reggae" version, an early demo from when the song was still called "Never Stop". I'm not hearing how the intro of the released version relates to that though, the "reggae" version has a consistent backbeat on 2 and 4. The mis-hearing of where beat 1 was and subsequent quick switch back sounds a more likely story to me! But we may never know for sure. Cheers!
I read a review of Angry today trying to determine why the reviews give it 4, 4.5 or 5, but I don't. The guardian review brought me here really. "his martial exactitude lacking compared with the almost invisible, mystical swing of the late Charlie Watts’s performances". Which is wonderful language. Obviously there's no obvious mistake, mysticism or otherwise on Angry and that's why I don't give it top marks. Mick however, is pretty dope on it. I have so many questions about Charlie on this, I guess he did stuff it, I guess also though, they knew it and thought it was great and kept it, but my real question is, did he really not know the song and the riff well enough on the ACTUAL RECORDING to know when to start, but then got it together in the act of recording and they kept that take. What is this magical don't give a f$@kery that they were using at that point. This to me is real swagger. I guess as a great musicians and being continually told everything you do is gold, you just go for it and it is. I don't fell like this is possible in the quantised world now, where peak performance is peak effort but this my friends, is why we are likely "post best stuff". Thanks Mike.
@@GaryBook No but I have seen drummers be able to use both styles depending on what they play. Check out Rob brown he switched a few years ago and explained why. Traditional grip started from the military days of drumming (war drums), then jazz and of course popular music. The bottom line is really use what suits you, if you can do what you need to while staying loose and enjoying it, that all that matters, you body will tell you :o)
A belated thanks for this lesson of the drum part. I would've never gotten it down without your breakdown. I did what I could with my rudimentary drum skills. 😆 ua-cam.com/users/shortswPEsMo61Ikg
Had to be a bit of Charlie Watts today! Have always loved this drum intro, even if there was an element of error about it when first played!
The crosses at the beginning of my notation are simply marking the quarter note during Keith Richards' guitar intro and are not to be played.
Notation here - available to all today: drive.google.com/file/d/1faWngZd8AxQEh445yAIIHLXIX6Vcx39Z/view?usp=sharing
And groovescribe practice-along version for you here too: gscribe.com/share/1ZY3Ga5cnDuwuy7W8
Start Me Up drumless backing track is here: ua-cam.com/video/bqy6IGMGjzo/v-deo.html
Mike :)
The thing I always admired most about Charlie Watts was his seriousness when performing. No showing off, not a lot of showing off, just calm perfection. A very elegant gentleman.
Charlie’s fills were incredible. All class. And the China cymbal? The icing on the cake!
Just played this yesterday at The Bitter End, and probably came in too early, lol. I used to play the hell out of this song when it came out in '81, a year or so after I started playing. Great tutorial. : )
Thanks a lot for this, Mike! We are just adding this song to our repertoire and I never did understand those opening bars. When I do covers, I like to always replicate the drummers as close as I can. Yes, I make them my own, but I always like to inject some of the original signature sounds of the drummer I am covering and this with that funny opening is one of those I want to replicate.
I've always loved the drum intro to Start Me Up. To me it seems harder to come in on that timing. You explain and break it down really well. Thanks.
Cheers Nick!
Pandemic life. In the San Francisco Bay Area, I just joined a rock band, 2nd rehearsal coming up, playing this song, needed help & I found you. The companion drum notation is in my pocket. Thanks Mike!
Nice one! Really glad if helpful :)
Awesome! An all time drum intro. Thanks for helping me understand it.
Thank you, this helped a lot!
Cheers Vincent!
Baa badump...... Baa badump.... one more time for luck.......Baa badump 😂 love it!
gonna take me a while to get this down, but goddamn your smile is infectious :D
Thanks for sharing this Mike 👍
Charlie ❤🎉🎉🎉….very very nice 👍…. Thank you very much Mike …. Love it soooooo❤❤❤ you are soo GREAT 🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯
Same thing happened on an Alma Bros recording of One Way Out. Bass guitar came in too soon after the break, but they managed to recover.
Cool thank you Mike. I m actually working on Honky Tonk Woman.
Great 😊👍
The reason the beginning is like that was due to its origin as a demo. They tried the track in a reggae style multiple times…as a throw away they tried once as a rock track in the middle.
A few years later they needed tracks for the Tattoo album in 81. They found this old take and went with it…they were stuck with the intro as it’s in the middle of the reggae versions of the tune…which might explain why it’s a bit back to front.
Thanks Simon, yes I've heard the so-called "reggae" version, an early demo from when the song was still called "Never Stop". I'm not hearing how the intro of the released version relates to that though, the "reggae" version has a consistent backbeat on 2 and 4. The mis-hearing of where beat 1 was and subsequent quick switch back sounds a more likely story to me! But we may never know for sure. Cheers!
Awesome great job I can fake almost anything but now I know
I read a review of Angry today trying to determine why the reviews give it 4, 4.5 or 5, but I don't. The guardian review brought me here really. "his martial exactitude lacking compared with the almost invisible, mystical swing of the late Charlie Watts’s performances". Which is wonderful language. Obviously there's no obvious mistake, mysticism or otherwise on Angry and that's why I don't give it top marks. Mick however, is pretty dope on it. I have so many questions about Charlie on this, I guess he did stuff it, I guess also though, they knew it and thought it was great and kept it, but my real question is, did he really not know the song and the riff well enough on the ACTUAL RECORDING to know when to start, but then got it together in the act of recording and they kept that take. What is this magical don't give a f$@kery that they were using at that point. This to me is real swagger. I guess as a great musicians and being continually told everything you do is gold, you just go for it and it is. I don't fell like this is possible in the quantised world now, where peak performance is peak effort but this my friends, is why we are likely "post best stuff". Thanks Mike.
if a mistake sounds great then it´s not a mistake
In Charlie’s memory, you need to do a video holding the sticks like a Jazz player, left hand stick to the side. I never can really do it.
It's called traditional grip mate
@@djashjones Do you ever use it? I hold my sticks like you, but Charlie and the Jazz drummers use the traditional grip.
@@GaryBook No but I have seen drummers be able to use both styles depending on what they play. Check out Rob brown he switched a few years ago and explained why. Traditional grip started from the military days of drumming (war drums), then jazz and of course popular music. The bottom line is really use what suits you, if you can do what you need to while staying loose and enjoying it, that all that matters, you body will tell you :o)
A belated thanks for this lesson of the drum part. I would've never gotten it down without your breakdown. I did what I could with my rudimentary drum skills. 😆 ua-cam.com/users/shortswPEsMo61Ikg
Well done!
Se esse cara falasse o dialeto do sanscrito eu entenderia. Assim entendi duas ou três palavras que ele fala kkkkkkkkk
Ha ha, vou trabalhar no meu sânscrito para você! Obrigado por assistir de qualquer maneira :)