My postproduction process: 1. Sit in chair, pumped up for an exciting day of editing. 2. Begin long and tedious process #1 3. Four hours later finish process #1 and take a much-needed break. Procrastination makes the break take 1-2 hours. 4. Return to computer to begin long and tedious process #2 and realize the break wasn't long enough. 5. Halfway through long and tedious process #2 mood swings begin 6. Start thinking about whether my future will be hopeful and joyous or depressing and unfulfilled. 7. Tearing up and exhausted, I slam shut the laptop in a fountain of sadness and frustration, believing that the movie will never be finished. 8. I eat something unhealthy and feel sad. 9. Drained of all energy, I crash in bed. 10. Wake up the next day for another editing session.
Yeah what I learned was putting the pieces in place to make sure it's going to be shown to as many people as possible before being that far along in the process. Even if not as many people see it, if it's good it'll find an audience and there'll be the right niche of people that appreciate it :)
Deadlines are the best motivation. I have been making “week in review” videos for a while now. I film from Monday to Thursday then have the video done and shown on Friday... It involves some pretty insane schedules and an all-nighter or two.
I just flew into Texas and I so want to see you guys but I have no idea where you are. And that’d be weird, just a guy shows up and is like, hi you guys are cool! Keep being awesome
Hey Ryan, would love to hear how you and your colorist managed the workflow between Premiere and Resolve. Did you export the whole movie with all the effects burned in as one file? Or did you use a XML to be able to grade the source files? If that's the case, how did you handle shots with transformations, additional effects, ... to maintain full quality? Thanks!
If i were to got to college for this, what course would i need to select so i can learn all this? I type in college video editing but i think that's not the right term for this.
I have a similar setup at home. photos.app.goo.gl/PuUYuuoEs8iKWyPy9 The vertical monitor is an old security monitor that has a small ding in the screen that destroyed 2 or 3 pixels (pure white now) but it was free. I'm using it with Hitfim: - Timeline in the center, - preview and trimmer on the right, - left are controls and project files. I was editing an interview / talking head in the image linked above. I'm thinking of moving the controls to the preview screen ince I need to see what I am tweaking with the controls. If I had more clients coming to my home office I'd add a TV to the wall for them to review as well. My old 970ti video card has 4 video outs.
Thank you for this video. Damn you talk fast. Here is an idea for video; break down the process of post. For someone who does not yet work in the industry and never went to film school I find the whole post-production a big mystery compared to other stages of production. I have been watching a lot of UA-cam videos about the topic and trying to find books etc. but nobody ever breaks down the post-production process in a way that newbie would understand who does exactly what, in which order and how does the collaboration actually goes, and what are some standards in each category. Could you please shed some light that would help me in the following scenario? I'm about to produce a bunch of low budget indie films that I'm also going to direct and edit (is the term editing considered the same as purely cutting, and anything beyond is something else like grading for example, while editor CAN also be colourist?). Let's say I have no time or interest learning to grade, but only edit (cut) because that's interesting/part of storytelling, and while learning to edit helps me to direct ("with edit in mind"). Now, once the production is finished and I import the footage (in this case 12bit CinemaDNG files) to DaVinci Resolve I start edit. First thing I notice is I have to do some ColorSpaceTransforms etc. to have the footage "watchable" even in editing (do you use LUT or something to make it workable for editing, temporarily, even when it will look very different later on after they apply the correction/grade/shot match/look to it?). Once I log in the cut, do I then send it to colourist, and in what format? Do I delete nodes? What else I need to know? Does the colourist colour correct AND grade? Who does the "look"? As far as I understand, correction and grading are more of technical aspects, while "look" is more artistic. So I get the corrected/grated version from the colourist and then I can sit down with the person who does the look and have back and forth about how I want the image look like? (How much of this I would need to discuss already with cinematographer?) Same with sound and music. So let's say I synch the footage and dialogue together and put some temporary sound effects in place (for my own editing purposes) etc. do I then send that edit to sound editing for cleaning, actual SFX etc, who then sends it to sound mixing? And if there is no separate music score (composer) but I just add music to the edit by myself would I then just leave that to the edit as well? In smaller production, does the sound mixing "department" also act as a sound editing? Let's forget the VFX for now as I'm sure the process is similar(?) and I don't need them at this point. Just trying to get the picture about how does these processes align, and to whom I communicate and when (and using what protocols/standards) in post if I'm both director AND editor, and want to be as much as possible involved in artistic processes and less in technical.
can you make a video about ballistic's premiere to davinci resolve transfer with all the re-scaling, effects, transitions and re-timings intact?.. it's always a nightmare to me.. it would be nice to see a workflow based video on this :)
Hey Hii Ryan that's so nice... To see your videos which gives me a lot inspiration for filmmaking but the thing is I don't have money to do but I am passionated towards filmmaking... So can you give easy tips for filmmaking...
Ryan- I bought the bts package for Ballistic. I downloaded 2 vids,opened the zip file for #2 .15 min.into it, my computer quits. I can't open it now.Its a brick. I opened a super virus. Anyone else having issues???
We haven’t had anyone with an issue like this. We are currently having it tested from several computers an locations and so far we can’t replicate that.
Hey Ryan, curious about how you deal with the raw files from the C200. Do you make the proxies in Resolve? I brought the raw files into premier and it didn't recognize them.
Hey Ryan. I just bought the BTS package. I'm looking forward to seeing it. Is it in anyway possible for Lucas Harger to release a screenshot of his complete timeline. I am very curius of, what he does with 60 audio tracks. I have used maximum 20 myself, so I would loooooooooove to see what he does and how he works. If a breakdown of his timeline would become an epiosede... weeeell. I wouldn't hate that either. Great film. Best wishes An editor geek.
TL;DR My post-production process: buy this plug-in, buy this plug-in (describes how to use it), useful GoogleDoc info, buy frame.io, advertisement (as if the video hasn't been mostly ads already), useful collaboration description, buy this plug-in pack. Very helpful, thanks.
What? Eleven TB of footage? Holy hard drive, Batman! Just when I thought my 4TB G-Tech would be enough for a short. Looks like its Ramen noodles for a while.
Remember that Ballistic was filmed with something like 7 or 8 cameras all shooting 4K RAW and there were probably numerous takes for most of the dialogue. You'll probably be fine if you're shooting a smaller production.
FOLEY SCENE: It's interesting. I found the scene to be more intense without the music layered in. Not a critique against the music, it's great, but I know when you're scared, you become hyper-aware of even the smallest sound. The tiniest breath you're trying to hide sounds deafening. Just a different feeling/opinion, but I felt more connected to the main character without the soundtrack in that moment.
RYAN!!! Thoughts on BMPC4K? I'm currently shooting on an aged 5d2 (started developing stuck pixels at high ISO or on long shoots) and a T3i. I don't have the funds for a 5D4 (4200$Can) so the BMPC4K at 1800$Can is REALLY interesting. I was thinking the BMPC4K and eventually getting a 77D or T7i for stills and B cam (1080p) mainly for the Dual Pixel AF. Are you guys planning on picking one (BMPC4K) up?
Mate you need to Use Trello for your team and knowing whos doing what! So much better than google unless fo course you are used to it. I am a software engineer and switched from google to Trello, best thing i ever did. And we track lots of things!
I'm sorry ... I muist have miss heard ... 11TB?!?!? Holy cow! Largest thing I've ever worked on was only about 20GB and that was a 40 minute documentary! Frame.io is AMAZEBALLS! I used their free version with lower res proxies for review dailies for shoots and edits for a client (documentary). If I had more constant regular gigs, this would be one of the rare subscription services I would pay for. I edit on HitFilm Pro, I use GIMP or AFINITY Photo for stills, I use Reaper for audio ... I haven;t touched a Adobe Product (other than LiveCycle and Acrobat Pro) in several years. As it stands, my one regular'ish client has it's own internal (and much much much crappier) system and I don't do enough client work for my own direct clients to warrant the subscription.
NordVPN is the only advertising here. The rest is what I actually used and how I used it. When I don’t show/explain what I used, people ask me to do that... when I do, other people complain that it’s just an ad. Haha. Oh the joys of the Internet.
My postproduction process:
1. Sit in chair, pumped up for an exciting day of editing.
2. Begin long and tedious process #1
3. Four hours later finish process #1 and take a much-needed break. Procrastination makes the break take 1-2 hours.
4. Return to computer to begin long and tedious process #2 and realize the break wasn't long enough.
5. Halfway through long and tedious process #2 mood swings begin
6. Start thinking about whether my future will be hopeful and joyous or depressing and unfulfilled.
7. Tearing up and exhausted, I slam shut the laptop in a fountain of sadness and frustration, believing that the movie will never be finished.
8. I eat something unhealthy and feel sad.
9. Drained of all energy, I crash in bed.
10. Wake up the next day for another editing session.
Golden Spoon Productions Add in, will all my hard work pay off and ppl actually watch my film??
Yeah what I learned was putting the pieces in place to make sure it's going to be shown to as many people as possible before being that far along in the process. Even if not as many people see it, if it's good it'll find an audience and there'll be the right niche of people that appreciate it :)
Deadlines are the best motivation. I have been making “week in review” videos for a while now. I film from Monday to Thursday then have the video done and shown on Friday... It involves some pretty insane schedules and an all-nighter or two.
Exactly my life these days !
11TB of footage. Yea I need to invest in hard drives before I start my film
LOL
8TB is for 300$ only
Hard drives are the cheapest, unless you go for faster ones the solid state drives.
If you shoot at 4K RAW, you might need more, depending on how long the film is.
I actually have 11TBs of storage and that's including all the projects I've ever done lol
I dont even have a TB of storage😅
Project Originality 😥😟
Every Time i see you in my notification I get waaay too excited
Lol
you're the bestt ones! thanks for the informations
Amazing to see you follow them too! And from 4 years ago. Big up brother 🤝
Andrew Kramer for gun explosion & blood :D
Perfect team :)
I just flew into Texas and I so want to see you guys but I have no idea where you are. And that’d be weird, just a guy shows up and is like, hi you guys are cool!
Keep being awesome
Man you guys are killing! Keep up the fantastic work.
anyone know what program he's editing with?
Adobe Premiere
You live the dream!
Time to start building up a hard drive collection.
this sounds like part of a series, but cannot be found in any playlist of your channel
Hey Ryan, would love to hear how you and your colorist managed the workflow between Premiere and Resolve. Did you export the whole movie with all the effects burned in as one file? Or did you use a XML to be able to grade the source files? If that's the case, how did you handle shots with transformations, additional effects, ... to maintain full quality?
Thanks!
If i were to got to college for this, what course would i need to select so i can learn all this? I type in college video editing but i think that's not the right term for this.
Foley Locker? Is that what you said? Really interested.. more info please!!
“Foley Walker”. It’s just a name for a foley artist.
oh gotcha, thanks!
Can you make a video about the colorgrading of BALLiSTIC? I really love it 😍
Crazy to see that process, can't wait until I get to that level!
Where did the money for ballistic come from?
Thanks, this gave me tips on editing my documentary!
Fast and hard this work. Great editing tips.
Brilliant video, keep doing what you do!
Hey Ryan for pipeline and artist management check out FTrack. Pretty cool.
Hi bro please tell about
The impact of the shots
Great info 👍
Ryan, will Lucas tell us about that sweet editing setup? 'Cuz vertical monitor, man!
I have a similar setup at home.
photos.app.goo.gl/PuUYuuoEs8iKWyPy9
The vertical monitor is an old security monitor that has a small ding in the screen that destroyed 2 or 3 pixels (pure white now) but it was free.
I'm using it with Hitfim:
- Timeline in the center,
- preview and trimmer on the right,
- left are controls and project files.
I was editing an interview / talking head in the image linked above.
I'm thinking of moving the controls to the preview screen ince I need to see what I am tweaking with the controls.
If I had more clients coming to my home office I'd add a TV to the wall for them to review as well.
My old 970ti video card has 4 video outs.
Thank you for this video. Damn you talk fast. Here is an idea for video; break down the process of post. For someone who does not yet work in the industry and never went to film school I find the whole post-production a big mystery compared to other stages of production. I have been watching a lot of UA-cam videos about the topic and trying to find books etc. but nobody ever breaks down the post-production process in a way that newbie would understand who does exactly what, in which order and how does the collaboration actually goes, and what are some standards in each category. Could you please shed some light that would help me in the following scenario?
I'm about to produce a bunch of low budget indie films that I'm also going to direct and edit (is the term editing considered the same as purely cutting, and anything beyond is something else like grading for example, while editor CAN also be colourist?). Let's say I have no time or interest learning to grade, but only edit (cut) because that's interesting/part of storytelling, and while learning to edit helps me to direct ("with edit in mind"). Now, once the production is finished and I import the footage (in this case 12bit CinemaDNG files) to DaVinci Resolve I start edit. First thing I notice is I have to do some ColorSpaceTransforms etc. to have the footage "watchable" even in editing (do you use LUT or something to make it workable for editing, temporarily, even when it will look very different later on after they apply the correction/grade/shot match/look to it?). Once I log in the cut, do I then send it to colourist, and in what format? Do I delete nodes? What else I need to know?
Does the colourist colour correct AND grade? Who does the "look"? As far as I understand, correction and grading are more of technical aspects, while "look" is more artistic. So I get the corrected/grated version from the colourist and then I can sit down with the person who does the look and have back and forth about how I want the image look like? (How much of this I would need to discuss already with cinematographer?)
Same with sound and music. So let's say I synch the footage and dialogue together and put some temporary sound effects in place (for my own editing purposes) etc. do I then send that edit to sound editing for cleaning, actual SFX etc, who then sends it to sound mixing? And if there is no separate music score (composer) but I just add music to the edit by myself would I then just leave that to the edit as well? In smaller production, does the sound mixing "department" also act as a sound editing?
Let's forget the VFX for now as I'm sure the process is similar(?) and I don't need them at this point. Just trying to get the picture about how does these processes align, and to whom I communicate and when (and using what protocols/standards) in post if I'm both director AND editor, and want to be as much as possible involved in artistic processes and less in technical.
fabfilter pro r on the thumbnail. Well. That s a pretty decent reverb. Good choice :D
can you make a video about ballistic's premiere to davinci resolve transfer with all the re-scaling, effects, transitions and re-timings intact?.. it's always a nightmare to me.. it would be nice to see a workflow based video on this :)
It one prores file sent to the colorist that he then chopped up again.
ok.. Thanks :)
WTF RYAN 11 TB FOR BALLISTIC!!!!
8 cameras total at some points. All shooting raw except 1.
Film Riot does raw footage has so much data ? Thats why
Hey Hii Ryan that's so nice... To see your videos which gives me a lot inspiration for filmmaking but the thing is I don't have money to do but I am passionated towards filmmaking... So can you give easy tips for filmmaking...
Ryan- I bought the bts package for Ballistic. I downloaded 2 vids,opened the zip file for #2 .15 min.into it, my computer quits. I can't open it now.Its a brick. I opened a super virus. Anyone else having issues???
We haven’t had anyone with an issue like this. We are currently having it tested from several computers an locations and so far we can’t replicate that.
Hey Ryan, curious about how you deal with the raw files from the C200. Do you make the proxies in Resolve? I brought the raw files into premier and it didn't recognize them.
Hey Ryan. I just bought the BTS package. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Is it in anyway possible for Lucas Harger to release a screenshot of his complete timeline. I am very curius of, what he does with 60 audio tracks. I have used maximum 20 myself, so I would loooooooooove to see what he does and how he works. If a breakdown of his timeline would become an epiosede... weeeell. I wouldn't hate that either.
Great film.
Best wishes
An editor geek.
Me too.
Yes yes yes!!!
5:54 holy that matrixbrute
wondering how much does it cost for post production?
Good work like olweis
IN ST.LOUIS WHERE... ???????????????
Lucas is in St. Louis?
Did your colorist use davinci? What software did they use?
Yeah.
TL;DR My post-production process: buy this plug-in, buy this plug-in (describes how to use it), useful GoogleDoc info, buy frame.io, advertisement (as if the video hasn't been mostly ads already), useful collaboration description, buy this plug-in pack. Very helpful, thanks.
Loved it and anything that has to do with BALLiSTIC
For real tho, VPNs are MUST!
What? Eleven TB of footage? Holy hard drive, Batman! Just when I thought my 4TB G-Tech would be enough for a short. Looks like its Ramen noodles for a while.
Remember that Ballistic was filmed with something like 7 or 8 cameras all shooting 4K RAW and there were probably numerous takes for most of the dialogue.
You'll probably be fine if you're shooting a smaller production.
FOLEY SCENE: It's interesting. I found the scene to be more intense without the music layered in. Not a critique against the music, it's great, but I know when you're scared, you become hyper-aware of even the smallest sound. The tiniest breath you're trying to hide sounds deafening. Just a different feeling/opinion, but I felt more connected to the main character without the soundtrack in that moment.
RYAN!!!
Thoughts on BMPC4K?
I'm currently shooting on an aged 5d2 (started developing stuck pixels at high ISO or on long shoots) and a T3i.
I don't have the funds for a 5D4 (4200$Can) so the BMPC4K at 1800$Can is REALLY interesting.
I was thinking the BMPC4K and eventually getting a 77D or T7i for stills and B cam (1080p) mainly for the Dual Pixel AF.
Are you guys planning on picking one (BMPC4K) up?
nice!
You guys gotta get back to tutorials
Post-Production process: Step One - Set hair on fire... ;-P
Mate you need to Use Trello for your team and knowing whos doing what! So much better than google unless fo course you are used to it. I am a software engineer and switched from google to Trello, best thing i ever did. And we track lots of things!
Please do a Ron Swanson impression.
please open subtitle
I'm sorry ... I muist have miss heard ... 11TB?!?!? Holy cow!
Largest thing I've ever worked on was only about 20GB and that was a 40 minute documentary!
Frame.io is AMAZEBALLS!
I used their free version with lower res proxies for review dailies for shoots and edits for a client (documentary).
If I had more constant regular gigs, this would be one of the rare subscription services I would pay for.
I edit on HitFilm Pro, I use GIMP or AFINITY Photo for stills, I use Reaper for audio ... I haven;t touched a Adobe Product (other than LiveCycle and Acrobat Pro) in several years.
As it stands, my one regular'ish client has it's own internal (and much much much crappier) system and I don't do enough client work for my own direct clients to warrant the subscription.
11TB????? It sound like you did a 100 takes per angle not scene but angle!!
11 TB??!!!!!
nice m8
NO CHICKEN TODAY...
Shave our-- wait repeat that
Andrew Kramer please,,,
so what did you earn from this ballistic project?
I have never understood any of the "see you next week" jokes.
Laggy44 they are movie references
Notification Squad
80% of this video is advertising
NordVPN is the only advertising here. The rest is what I actually used and how I used it. When I don’t show/explain what I used, people ask me to do that... when I do, other people complain that it’s just an ad. Haha. Oh the joys of the Internet.
Film Riot That's understandable. I apologise for my rushed snarky comment.
Early squad!
ThaSkully hi
People who dislike your videos. what is it they don't like???!
Your intro music is really bad and it is very loud
Uhm
Ryan, I'm watching the video and I think you keyed too much. I look closely and your partly translucent on the left of your shirt...
Wut
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Bert Kreishers brother isn’t as funny.
Jesus can change yr life
You talk too fast
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