And let’s not forget one of the writers, Kate Leth made her infamous “Kill All Men” social media posts, and a few years later, she refused to apologize over it while blaming critics for, in her own words, not understanding she was “Tumblrpilled.”
@@nickytembo4112Knowing she wrote the episode where Sage complains about guys don’t understand feelings in front of Snapdragon and instead of having Snapdragon call her out with her sexist talk, she called her out for not realizing Snapdragon is a girl, it ain’t coincidence enough.
Yeah it's a let down to build the review up so much and then just be like "nah" at the last second. I have faith this is not the last we'll hear about this show from him though.
I love how we never actually find out what a guardian is, throughout the entire show they never took a couple minutes to explain that. For all we know guardians are simply the world’s greatest bakers who gather their own exotic ingredients
Part of me wishes you didn't have to torture yourself like this That being said, I appreciate your honest stance on how terrible it is. This show should be used to know what NOT to do with making a show similar to this
@@ethanmacdonald8568 Difference of course is he LIKED (most of) the first 4 seasons of MLP, because the staff actually gave a damn about its quality… With HGS, I can't say the top staff didn't care, but everyone can agree they were horrifically incompetent while the grunt-workers (animators, sound producers) definitely didn't care
I will say the show is definitely fun to pick apart. For example the whole "New Magic" completely breaks any kind of tension the show could possibly have since it can apparently "do anything".
Not just that, the whole thing seems to be an obvious set up with the rot thing that they introduced being the ultimate drawback for being able to "do anything" and that there is always a cost. Instead that just never happens. In fact both of those supplots never pay off. The rot is never cured nor even understood and sage just kinda gets over herself and starts using new magic and seemingly accepts that its just better than old magic. Truly baffling.
Then, as uniquenameosaurus pointed out when he did this, in one scene, new magic went from "literally better in every conceivable way" to "only a moron would get within a country mile of this when a more tedious but infinitely safer method exists"
@@tobiasbayer4866 I could see curing the Rot being left to a never-happening season 2. But the vagueness of how Old and New Magic work is still annoying, particularly since one of the main characters' conflicts revolves around how these two magic systems operate and which one she will learn. Kinda need some specifics in order to get invested in that arc. And of course how episode 4 and kinda episode 5 seem to be going for Old/New Magic being a metaphor for conservative/liberal values, but that's its own whole mess...
It's funny, after watching many videos on the subject of HGS, I got a bit inspired to rework the elements of the story to actually function properly; starting with the villain who would be a by product of the calamity 'new' magic caused to the 'old' magic of the world. I also redesigned the looks of the main 4 and renamed the characters to actually have Spice names before I ended up putting that small jumble of thoughts into a hiatus.
You know, something just hit me. There are a LOT of similarities between HGS and The Owl House. High Guardian Spice's primary themes are magic and witchcraft, where a largely-female cast come of age and grow to become better and stronger. All the while, the show wishes to implement themes of acceptance and empowerment to minority and marginzalized groups; including women, people of colour, the LGBT community, and disabled people. During the show's tremendous delay, Disney showed up and decided to outsmart CrunchyRoll in every aspect. The Owl House is largely worked on by a diverse cast and crew (Being the fourth show or so in Disney Channel's 40-year history to be created by a woman), took place in a world of demonics and magic, and prominently features characters that fit the aforementioned groups. I've not seen HGS myself, but from what I've heard, it seems like The Owl House shared incredibly similar goals and ambitions WITHOUT being insanely hamfisted or patronizing. The crew didn't shamelessly brag about their team's diveristy, the show treated its LGBT, disabled, etc. characters as human and ordinary as anybody else, all while keeping the most attention to a powerful and developing story that also falls into the "progressive" net. And it managed to air a season and a half in between HGS's planned and final release. I almost feel bad for High Guardian Spice. It spent much of its development hell being outsmarted by a similar show that came to grow a huge following and universal acclaim.
Both were Highly ambitious, but HGS had backing from a hive mind studio while Owl House was funded by a parasitic relationship. Owl house is still solid for what it is
Too many people hear "This show makes the cause of advocating for more diversity and women look terrible" and pretend "Rawr I hate women lmao" was said instead.
That's the best part of making a show with females/minorities/gays: if/when it fails, you can blame it on small-mind, bigoted haters over any actual, even obvious flaws! 😉
The fucked up part for me is that I watched the whole thing drunk on a dare. Fucking loved it and later realized like 90% of what I like was my mind filling in for empty gaps ^^U helped me get back into high fantasy though so there's that
Majority of the people whom watch the trailer predicted to be bad and they were right. It focused more on the people behind the scenes rather than explain their "passion" project and it didn't help that when they do, their speech is all over place rather than cohesive narrative as if this is the first time they are explaining what the project/show is about.
A few years ago I would have been excited to see this how ripped apart and raged at. But now that I've gotten sick of the whole caustic critic schtick, I'm eager to see a more chill Mr. Enter give a detailed look at the problems this show has. I just worry for the loss of brain cells it may induce.
im honestly surprised he chose boss baby instead. even if you count it and the sequels combined its still way better than high guardian spice or velma. those 2 are way worse and honestly should have been picked for 200
@@saiyanscaris6530 It may due because it's DreamWorks and he knows they can do better but, the company simply choses not too. Velma and the High Guardian Spice are practically products of nepotism, one from having a celebrity saving it from being easily dropped by tge studio and the other being financed with the money they collect from suscriptions which it was proven that it doesn't go to the anime studios.
It does fit though: DT The Movie was a movie and Jumping the shark moment Boss Baby was the movie that officially started the dreamworks Nosedive sellout phase Both were never reviewed by Enter before and are awful ideas Both have infamous legacy of being cashgrabs that "succeeded" and help spawn abominations down the line (DT The Movie is the reason adult animation gotten nastier without being less censorious)
I kind of like the idea of an entire series on one show. ShadyDoorags and Reviewed2Death get a lot of mileage on going full-bore into King of the Hill.
Well, that was unexpected. I understand about why you gave up on it as your Animated Atrocity 200. I don’t think I could handle 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I’m not the only one either. Well, at least you are keeping the kind of specialty that you planned to do with this show. Good luck.
This show is like a lovecraftian horror: we can learn things from it, but in order to learn those things you have to endure its presence without going completely insane.
One interesting thing to note was that High Guardian Spice actually created a butterfly effect in the animation industry and the perception towards "woke" storytelling in animation that years later, in the present, HGS was the reason why people wanted creative AI to progress further in order to make "woke" animators lose their jobs and shift the current state of Western animation for the "better". Such people believed that Western animation nowadays are plagued by talentless people like the creators of HGS and were controlled by agenda-driven companies, so much so that it displaced people with real creative talent out of the spotlight.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Mr. Enter delves into the episodes. Mainly because part of what makes High Guardian Spice so fascinating to so many people is not just how bad it is; but particularly how many aspects of the show are interesting, and could make for a good show if developed more, but the writers just didn't give them the attention needed. It had a lot of potential, which is more than can be said of many bad shows. ... And the controversy, as Mr. Enter did point out here. If not for being released on by Crunchyroll, and the fiasco that ensued from that, High Guardian Spice probably would have come and gone as just another bad cartoon, without a lot of fanfare. But here we are.
Honestly, I'd still have to agree with her. It's bad, definitely, but they were obviously focused on making the show "diverse" more than actually making it good. There's a potential that the flaws with the animation, writing and characters likely wouldn't be so awful if they weren't basically filling out a quota of how many women needed to be part of the production instead of "are they fit for the job? Great! Bring them in! This one turned out to be a woman? That doesn't matter because she's qualified, so let her in! This one's a guy? He's qualified, so add him to the team!" However, they didn't do that and likely didn't screen the women (or probably even the few token men) they chose to hire for actual talent, and so we got something that's now a sexist icon. As such, I think it really is the need to prioritize pandering to women (and apparently other minority groups later on) that ultimately destroyed any chance of this show being remotely decent. It might have turned out to be a piece of crap anyway, but that's impossible to know now, and even then, pandering to minorities like we're preschoolers, if not worse than preschoolers is morally wrong anyway, and I'll just be glad if it doesn't turn out that they tried to do it to Hispanics or those on the Autism Spectrum (which are the two types of minority groups I belong to).
A belated inevitability tbh. Remember CR deviated funds to this while Tokyo Terevi was pressuring them to pay overdue licensing fees. CR doesn't deserve your money.
So, it went from a milestone video for Animated Atrocities, to being close to a semi-movie, and now it's going to be a 12-14-episode series. Not only that, but you made several Admirable Animations between this and your Brave review! This is going to be a lot of fun, I can tell. The only thing I hope is that you're finally done bashing yourself. Because even if the stuff you actually did (and weren't falsely accused of by legitimately hatful people who target everyone the same way and hide behind the "good cause" excuse) was as bad as everyone, including yourself make it out to be (I don't think so by the way), it still makes for a very uncomfortable experience because you often get on a roll in saying how much you suck to the point where you only like a very small handful of your own videos. Though with all that said, I haven't watched the series, and after hearing about the trailer (mainly from Mr Enter's video on it) I don't have any desire to do so, I want to ask everyone else something. Whether you actually watched the show or only heard of some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, what do you all think is the worst part about it? Is it the animation errors, the crappy plot/characters, the, what I like to call "minority stroking" (which is basically when a show decides to pander to minorities and hide behind them to avoid criticism, which is my personal pick for the worst aspect because it's a major pet peeve of mine), or is it something else?
I've watched criticism videos on it, and to me, the worst is definitely the virtue signaling, or "minority stroking" as you called it. The statement about how they focused on diversity immediately followed by the writer's room being all women would be peak comedy if it wasn't so stupid. Like, they really said that, edited it, then shipped it out thinking there was nothing wrong with that. They are playing right into the negative stereotypes associated with people who advocate for inclusion, diversity, etc. and that really hurts their cause. I think most people couldn't care less what the gender or age of someone making something is as long as it's good. A show that's diverse and good is definitely progressive. A show that's diverse and is bad will just be forgotten, but then High Guardian Spice is bad and shoves its diversity down your throat. This is what makes it regressive and antagonizes those who don't agree with its politics. I've experienced some stories where although my opinions didn't align with the authors/writers at all, yet it made me consider things I never did before and gave me something to think about. You need to respect your audience, that's the difference. I don't want to get too much into the politics so I'll just leave it at this: This terrible show being bad is completely independent of their gender, race, political opinions, background, and anything else about their attributes outside of writing. Anyone who says different is just being disingenuous and trying to add a point to their political faction despite it being not relevant. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
@@megaultrasonic Quite frankly, minorities shouldn't even be a political issue, and I find it a sure sign that whoever uses us like that are corrupt whether they're a politician or not. The only saving grace is that I haven't heard any rumors of the creators trying to call people "minority haters" if they say they don't like their show, but even that small thing might not even be the case after I look deeper.
What's hilarious is that the show suffers from an unusual problem that it shares with Velma; The most likable and interesting characters are the ones the writers want you to hate. Pretty sure everyone's favorite character is Amaryllis if it's not Snapdragon.
While Amaryllis did start out as basically a bully I think she was always suppossed to have a redemption arc. Except that arc never happens. She just kinda stops being a bully on her own. She is just sassy most of the time. But the way she treats snapdragon shows to me that shes supposed to be the bratty rich girl with a heart of gold archetype. Similar to Pacifica Northwest. The characters we are actually supposed to are people like that dude who made fun of Snapdragon and the guys who Rosemary had a crush on but turned out to be sexist. The reason why in Velma Fred is the most likeable ist because he is actually allowed to have flaws unlike the rest of the main characters. In HGS thats not the case.
Honestly, I didn’t know you edited this video until the end. You said before your editing sucks for your earlier videos, and while I haven’t seen a lot of them, I can say that your editing has improved since then. Keep it up!
Saying that their writing team was 100% female was such a weird thing to brag about. I guess in their minds, having even 1 man in there would have made things worse... because reasons?
This is a show that anyone can tell had big production woes. Clearly, nobody in this project had fun making this series. That sucks for them, sucks for us, and sucks for animation as a whole. I wondered what happened there. Are animators not being paid? Was morale low? Did the files get deleted unexpectedly? Edit: I looked up stories about the show, and the main issue with the show was its budget. Crunchyroll didn't give the studio (filled with non-union workers) the resources to fulfill the creator's vision. "The show had 1/3 the budget of a typical Western show," says Sofia Alexander. Ouch.
My man, I am looking forward to this! I have seen so many reviews about what HGS did wrong and, well, there is always something different to say! It's amazing how the crew botched the production of this show so badly. I look forward to your thoughts.
- Talks about creating a diverse working environment - Boasts about the writers' room being 100% female. I feel like these people don't understand what diverse means.
correction to the description, not an anime. it's on an anime streaming service that is otherwise dedicated exclusively to anime and shows that attempt to be anime but this show is not supposed to be an anime, and was shown to many networks before landing on this one. oh this is just an announcement of a criticism, that's why it's so short
As a lover of fantasy and video games I have watched a few episodes of HGS. The entire time I was brainstorming ideas for what magical powers Rose, Thyme, & Parsley should have as well as what monsters they would run into before reaching their destination.
I guess my day at work wore me out more than I expected. I was so tired, I didn't realize until after I heard the video stop that this was a trailer. I literally hit the icon on my phone and put it back in my pocket to listen to . Lol
![Animated Atrocities 093 || "The Pom-Pom Girl" [My Life Me]](/img/n.gif)
No matter how hard it tries, High Guardian Spice will never get its own cereal.
Aww, man.
it will never get a sci-fi spinoff called High Guardian Space
Probably for the best, it would taste like the show.
Not even instant oatmeal
This cut me deep for some reason -- and I don't even like the show!
And let’s not forget one of the writers, Kate Leth made her infamous “Kill All Men” social media posts, and a few years later, she refused to apologize over it while blaming critics for, in her own words, not understanding she was “Tumblrpilled.”
Wow, it’s like the show was made out of spite.
@@nickytembo4112Knowing she wrote the episode where Sage complains about guys don’t understand feelings in front of Snapdragon and instead of having Snapdragon call her out with her sexist talk, she called her out for not realizing Snapdragon is a girl, it ain’t coincidence enough.
I wish to Kate the most horrible life hope she'll lose everything and get denied of any future jobs.
@@nickytembo4112If THIS show was made from spite, Velma was made from malice only achieved by hellbeings.
Honestly, i wouldnt have minded seeing a 2 hour video from you.
Yeah it's a let down to build the review up so much and then just be like "nah" at the last second. I have faith this is not the last we'll hear about this show from him though.
@@SeaStarTea I get it. It's unfortunate but I get it.
@@destroyershy96 Could have had the Korra Season 1 style review, but I'm glad he's compromising.
i think this video is ment to be a trailer for the video
Becaue there would undoubtedly have been a snot load of “hurrrr long bad” if he actually did.
Thanks to Velma I forgot this show was even a thing
This show became so bad its good because of Velma.
Velma killed this show hard.
At least this show it's its own thing and does not blemish an otherwise good franchise.
This was an animated atrocity we all saw coming.
this was the animated atrocity we were all WAITING for XD
Out of all the animated atrocities, this is the most deserving
Which is sad because this show looks very promising.
@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293I am not too sure about that. Nothing stood out that much to begin with.
Velma...
Their first mistake was not knowing the difference between kids media that appealed to adults, and adult media with a childish aesthetic.
The writing is both obscenely brutal and childish at the same time.
The people who work on this show look EXACTLY how I thought they would.
If any show deserves to be eviscerated in a lengthy, angry, vitriol filled review, it's this show.
The characters are named after herbs not spices lol
The creator actually blocked people who pointed that out and called him an idiot apparently it’s a reference to a song
@@roboticturtle8822 > *apparently it’s a reference to a song*
Scarborough Fair / Canticle as made famous by Simon & Garfunkel?
I love how we never actually find out what a guardian is, throughout the entire show they never took a couple minutes to explain that. For all we know guardians are simply the world’s greatest bakers who gather their own exotic ingredients
Part of me wishes you didn't have to torture yourself like this
That being said, I appreciate your honest stance on how terrible it is. This show should be used to know what NOT to do with making a show similar to this
On one hand, I wish he wouldnt torture himself
On the other, there's popcorn.
@@icarue993I see what you did there.
Uniquenameosuarus. He did an in depth breakdown, episode by episode.
Enter reviewing a show episode by episode?
As some who remembers the days of his G4 MLP reviews im throughly invested
@@ethanmacdonald8568 Difference of course is he LIKED (most of) the first 4 seasons of MLP, because the staff actually gave a damn about its quality…
With HGS, I can't say the top staff didn't care, but everyone can agree they were horrifically incompetent while the grunt-workers (animators, sound producers) definitely didn't care
I will say the show is definitely fun to pick apart.
For example the whole "New Magic" completely breaks any kind of tension the show could possibly have since it can apparently "do anything".
Not just that, the whole thing seems to be an obvious set up with the rot thing that they introduced being the ultimate drawback for being able to "do anything" and that there is always a cost. Instead that just never happens. In fact both of those supplots never pay off. The rot is never cured nor even understood and sage just kinda gets over herself and starts using new magic and seemingly accepts that its just better than old magic. Truly baffling.
Then, as uniquenameosaurus pointed out when he did this, in one scene, new magic went from "literally better in every conceivable way" to "only a moron would get within a country mile of this when a more tedious but infinitely safer method exists"
sounds like the advertising of the average MMO
@@tobiasbayer4866 I could see curing the Rot being left to a never-happening season 2. But the vagueness of how Old and New Magic work is still annoying, particularly since one of the main characters' conflicts revolves around how these two magic systems operate and which one she will learn. Kinda need some specifics in order to get invested in that arc.
And of course how episode 4 and kinda episode 5 seem to be going for Old/New Magic being a metaphor for conservative/liberal values, but that's its own whole mess...
It's funny, after watching many videos on the subject of HGS, I got a bit inspired to rework the elements of the story to actually function properly; starting with the villain who would be a by product of the calamity 'new' magic caused to the 'old' magic of the world. I also redesigned the looks of the main 4 and renamed the characters to actually have Spice names before I ended up putting that small jumble of thoughts into a hiatus.
By all means, this train wreck of a show will live on forever as a cautionary tale for aspiring authors everywhere.
No, no, we in the anime community have memed on this show for years now
You know, something just hit me. There are a LOT of similarities between HGS and The Owl House.
High Guardian Spice's primary themes are magic and witchcraft, where a largely-female cast come of age and grow to become better and stronger. All the while, the show wishes to implement themes of acceptance and empowerment to minority and marginzalized groups; including women, people of colour, the LGBT community, and disabled people. During the show's tremendous delay, Disney showed up and decided to outsmart CrunchyRoll in every aspect. The Owl House is largely worked on by a diverse cast and crew (Being the fourth show or so in Disney Channel's 40-year history to be created by a woman), took place in a world of demonics and magic, and prominently features characters that fit the aforementioned groups.
I've not seen HGS myself, but from what I've heard, it seems like The Owl House shared incredibly similar goals and ambitions WITHOUT being insanely hamfisted or patronizing. The crew didn't shamelessly brag about their team's diveristy, the show treated its LGBT, disabled, etc. characters as human and ordinary as anybody else, all while keeping the most attention to a powerful and developing story that also falls into the "progressive" net. And it managed to air a season and a half in between HGS's planned and final release.
I almost feel bad for High Guardian Spice. It spent much of its development hell being outsmarted by a similar show that came to grow a huge following and universal acclaim.
In other words, one show had Eda Clawthorne...And the other was High Guardian Spice.
I'll take the Owl Lady, thank you very much.
@@smashmaster521same here
Both were Highly ambitious, but HGS had backing from a hive mind studio while Owl House was funded by a parasitic relationship. Owl house is still solid for what it is
@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 Just to clarify, when you say "Parasitic relationship," you mean between the show's crew and the Disney higher-ups?
@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 I have been calling Disney a "Fair-weathered friend" lately
Perhaps that counts as parasitic
“What day is it?” Asked Pooh
“The day we burn High Guardian Spice to the ground.” Said Mr. Enter
“My favorite day” said Pooh
I would love to see a 2+ hour video from you, I need more ling form content to listen to while at work
Yeah
I'd like that too
I would like to see his Spongebob and Family Guy animated atrocities for 2 hours
Too many people hear "This show makes the cause of advocating for more diversity and women look terrible" and pretend "Rawr I hate women lmao" was said instead.
That's the best part of making a show with females/minorities/gays: if/when it fails, you can blame it on small-mind, bigoted haters over any actual, even obvious flaws! 😉
More diversity, by using only women to write it, very diverse
@@andrewgreeb916 only *white* women at that...👀
The fucked up part for me is that I watched the whole thing drunk on a dare. Fucking loved it and later realized like 90% of what I like was my mind filling in for empty gaps ^^U helped me get back into high fantasy though so there's that
Majority of the people whom watch the trailer predicted to be bad and they were right.
It focused more on the people behind the scenes rather than explain their "passion" project and it didn't help that when they do, their speech is all over place rather than cohesive narrative as if this is the first time they are explaining what the project/show is about.
If anything, this shows just a glorified vanity project for a group of narcissists with daddy issues to boost their fragile egos
I thought this show was done...
...but it's great to see people still ripping it a new one.
Some people never stopped (seriously Guardian HQ is STILL making videos about it).
I like High Guardian Spice more than Velma, at least HGS is bad in a "So bad it's good" way
It also has some good characters like Slimeboy, Amaryllis and Snapdragon.
A few years ago I would have been excited to see this how ripped apart and raged at. But now that I've gotten sick of the whole caustic critic schtick, I'm eager to see a more chill Mr. Enter give a detailed look at the problems this show has. I just worry for the loss of brain cells it may induce.
There's a silver lining- I'm writing a fantasy adventure and I can look at HGS to figure out what NOT to do. Thanks, Crunchyroll!
You know this show is unforgivably awful when Enter couldn't even put the "Animated Atrocities" on the title.
Would Abomination be better or worse quality than Atrocity?
My boy this just the trailer for the series, mr.enter needs his own miniseries to bash it.
Remember when this was supposed to be the 200th Animated Atrocity? Yeah… good times.
Not anymore. We have the Boss Baby.
im honestly surprised he chose boss baby instead. even if you count it and the sequels combined its still way better than high guardian spice or velma. those 2 are way worse and honestly should have been picked for 200
@@saiyanscaris6530 It may due because it's DreamWorks and he knows they can do better but, the company simply choses not too. Velma and the High Guardian Spice are practically products of nepotism, one from having a celebrity saving it from being easily dropped by tge studio and the other being financed with the money they collect from suscriptions which it was proven that it doesn't go to the anime studios.
Well, Boss Baby is quite deserving too… Although I was sure he’ll go with Velma as well.
Remember when he was working on anything for 200? Yeah, me too
*"It's Time to Destroy High Guardian Spice"*
It's about time.
I cannot wait to see you go through this show in detail. It’ll be very much worth it.
A bit weird that you chose the Boss Baby for Episode 200, but I can't wait to see what you can talk about with it.
The Boss Baby AND its sequel.
doesnt it have 2 sequels@@davyjones3105
It does fit though:
DT The Movie was a movie and Jumping the shark moment
Boss Baby was the movie that officially started the dreamworks Nosedive sellout phase
Both were never reviewed by Enter before and are awful ideas
Both have infamous legacy of being cashgrabs that "succeeded" and help spawn abominations down the line (DT The Movie is the reason adult animation gotten nastier without being less censorious)
@@davyjones3105How about the Netflix show?
@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 Fair point.
High Guardian Spice Aka: Little Witch Academia on cocaine.
Little Witch Academia but super awful
Been waiting 2 freaking years to hear your thoughts on this, even though I basically already knew what you'd think of it.
Me too.
I kind of like the idea of an entire series on one show. ShadyDoorags and Reviewed2Death get a lot of mileage on going full-bore into King of the Hill.
Marzgurl is not gonna like you for destroying this show.
Good
Like she had any credibility-_-
Well, that was unexpected. I understand about why you gave up on it as your Animated Atrocity 200. I don’t think I could handle 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I’m not the only one either.
Well, at least you are keeping the kind of specialty that you planned to do with this show. Good luck.
This show is like a lovecraftian horror: we can learn things from it, but in order to learn those things you have to endure its presence without going completely insane.
One interesting thing to note was that High Guardian Spice actually created a butterfly effect in the animation industry and the perception towards "woke" storytelling in animation that years later, in the present, HGS was the reason why people wanted creative AI to progress further in order to make "woke" animators lose their jobs and shift the current state of Western animation for the "better".
Such people believed that Western animation nowadays are plagued by talentless people like the creators of HGS and were controlled by agenda-driven companies, so much so that it displaced people with real creative talent out of the spotlight.
They should’ve just kept this show in their drafts and cancelled it
Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are examples of original animation done correctly.
Hooo baby! Here we go! Let's rip this show to shreds! :D
I'm looking forward to seeing how Mr. Enter delves into the episodes.
Mainly because part of what makes High Guardian Spice so fascinating to so many people is not just how bad it is; but particularly how many aspects of the show are interesting, and could make for a good show if developed more, but the writers just didn't give them the attention needed. It had a lot of potential, which is more than can be said of many bad shows.
... And the controversy, as Mr. Enter did point out here. If not for being released on by Crunchyroll, and the fiasco that ensued from that, High Guardian Spice probably would have come and gone as just another bad cartoon, without a lot of fanfare. But here we are.
Sarah Z made a video about how HGS wouldn't get nearly as much hate if it weren't woke. Like, did she and her echo chamber even see the same series?
Honestly, I'd still have to agree with her. It's bad, definitely, but they were obviously focused on making the show "diverse" more than actually making it good. There's a potential that the flaws with the animation, writing and characters likely wouldn't be so awful if they weren't basically filling out a quota of how many women needed to be part of the production instead of "are they fit for the job? Great! Bring them in! This one turned out to be a woman? That doesn't matter because she's qualified, so let her in! This one's a guy? He's qualified, so add him to the team!"
However, they didn't do that and likely didn't screen the women (or probably even the few token men) they chose to hire for actual talent, and so we got something that's now a sexist icon. As such, I think it really is the need to prioritize pandering to women (and apparently other minority groups later on) that ultimately destroyed any chance of this show being remotely decent. It might have turned out to be a piece of crap anyway, but that's impossible to know now, and even then, pandering to minorities like we're preschoolers, if not worse than preschoolers is morally wrong anyway, and I'll just be glad if it doesn't turn out that they tried to do it to Hispanics or those on the Autism Spectrum (which are the two types of minority groups I belong to).
A belated inevitability tbh. Remember CR deviated funds to this while Tokyo Terevi was pressuring them to pay overdue licensing fees.
CR doesn't deserve your money.
Imagine fucking up a show so bad it takes a whole series to explain it all
Super excited!!! Pls take care not to burn yourself out with this series!
So, it went from a milestone video for Animated Atrocities, to being close to a semi-movie, and now it's going to be a 12-14-episode series. Not only that, but you made several Admirable Animations between this and your Brave review! This is going to be a lot of fun, I can tell.
The only thing I hope is that you're finally done bashing yourself. Because even if the stuff you actually did (and weren't falsely accused of by legitimately hatful people who target everyone the same way and hide behind the "good cause" excuse) was as bad as everyone, including yourself make it out to be (I don't think so by the way), it still makes for a very uncomfortable experience because you often get on a roll in saying how much you suck to the point where you only like a very small handful of your own videos.
Though with all that said, I haven't watched the series, and after hearing about the trailer (mainly from Mr Enter's video on it) I don't have any desire to do so, I want to ask everyone else something. Whether you actually watched the show or only heard of some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, what do you all think is the worst part about it? Is it the animation errors, the crappy plot/characters, the, what I like to call "minority stroking" (which is basically when a show decides to pander to minorities and hide behind them to avoid criticism, which is my personal pick for the worst aspect because it's a major pet peeve of mine), or is it something else?
I've watched criticism videos on it, and to me, the worst is definitely the virtue signaling, or "minority stroking" as you called it. The statement about how they focused on diversity immediately followed by the writer's room being all women would be peak comedy if it wasn't so stupid. Like, they really said that, edited it, then shipped it out thinking there was nothing wrong with that.
They are playing right into the negative stereotypes associated with people who advocate for inclusion, diversity, etc. and that really hurts their cause. I think most people couldn't care less what the gender or age of someone making something is as long as it's good. A show that's diverse and good is definitely progressive. A show that's diverse and is bad will just be forgotten, but then High Guardian Spice is bad and shoves its diversity down your throat. This is what makes it regressive and antagonizes those who don't agree with its politics. I've experienced some stories where although my opinions didn't align with the authors/writers at all, yet it made me consider things I never did before and gave me something to think about. You need to respect your audience, that's the difference.
I don't want to get too much into the politics so I'll just leave it at this: This terrible show being bad is completely independent of their gender, race, political opinions, background, and anything else about their attributes outside of writing. Anyone who says different is just being disingenuous and trying to add a point to their political faction despite it being not relevant.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
@@megaultrasonic Quite frankly, minorities shouldn't even be a political issue, and I find it a sure sign that whoever uses us like that are corrupt whether they're a politician or not. The only saving grace is that I haven't heard any rumors of the creators trying to call people "minority haters" if they say they don't like their show, but even that small thing might not even be the case after I look deeper.
What's hilarious is that the show suffers from an unusual problem that it shares with Velma; The most likable and interesting characters are the ones the writers want you to hate.
Pretty sure everyone's favorite character is Amaryllis if it's not Snapdragon.
While Amaryllis did start out as basically a bully I think she was always suppossed to have a redemption arc. Except that arc never happens. She just kinda stops being a bully on her own. She is just sassy most of the time. But the way she treats snapdragon shows to me that shes supposed to be the bratty rich girl with a heart of gold archetype. Similar to Pacifica Northwest.
The characters we are actually supposed to are people like that dude who made fun of Snapdragon and the guys who Rosemary had a crush on but turned out to be sexist.
The reason why in Velma Fred is the most likeable ist because he is actually allowed to have flaws unlike the rest of the main characters. In HGS thats not the case.
Apparently they didn't know Crunchy Roll was interviewing them to make the trailer. They thought it was for something else.
so there super oblivious or very dumb. got it
I will never not laugh at the idea of an all female writing room somehow being "diverse".
I've often said that, High Guardian Spice is one of those shows where it prioritises politics before anything else.
Honestly, I didn’t know you edited this video until the end. You said before your editing sucks for your earlier videos, and while I haven’t seen a lot of them, I can say that your editing has improved since then. Keep it up!
Saying that their writing team was 100% female was such a weird thing to brag about. I guess in their minds, having even 1 man in there would have made things worse... because reasons?
It might be a good idea to mention every error in each episode, then doing an overall video where you examine errors across multiple episodes.
Whether it is a 2 hours or 10 minutes video if there's a Tonikaku Kawaii image said video can't be bad.
This is a show that anyone can tell had big production woes. Clearly, nobody in this project had fun making this series. That sucks for them, sucks for us, and sucks for animation as a whole. I wondered what happened there. Are animators not being paid? Was morale low? Did the files get deleted unexpectedly?
Edit: I looked up stories about the show, and the main issue with the show was its budget. Crunchyroll didn't give the studio (filled with non-union workers) the resources to fulfill the creator's vision.
"The show had 1/3 the budget of a typical Western show," says Sofia Alexander. Ouch.
Enter?! Why you do this?! You have to make a feature length film for this!!
I feel like I'm back in 2021 with this video. Or 2018.
me: "ugh... high guardian spice video? well, alright..."
me, 2 seconds in: "omg sunny beach ost from spyro 2!? LET'S GOOOOOOOO"
I hope you still cover Magical Girls Friendships Squad, Santa inc, and especially Mindy Karling's Velma.
My man, I am looking forward to this! I have seen so many reviews about what HGS did wrong and, well, there is always something different to say! It's amazing how the crew botched the production of this show so badly. I look forward to your thoughts.
Got the notification right as I sat down for my break. Hell yeah.
When you're In a cliche predictable contest and your opponent is high guardian spice
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time.
I am really looking forward to seeing this. Can't wait for the episode break downs.
Happy to see a new video Mr. Enter
- Talks about creating a diverse working environment
- Boasts about the writers' room being 100% female.
I feel like these people don't understand what diverse means.
Raye Rodriguez will get more work after this even though the show was an absolute freaking disaster.
I bet he will only go threw 5 episodes before quitting.
i bet half an episode
@@saiyanscaris6530 One episode and then he will give up. Like that second part to his top adds.
HYPED FOR THE SERIES! It’ll be great, I already know!
Well it’s about dang time. Can’t wait to see this.
Oh I can't wait for this critique, I've watched multiple hours long videos on this show. I just find it so very fascinating
Yes!!! FINALLY! I've been wanting to see Mr. Enter's opinions on HGS since it came out!!
I was waiting for this episode! Can’t wait to get to the end!
Been holding out on every other HGS video for this moment. Let's gooooo!
correction to the description, not an anime. it's on an anime streaming service that is otherwise dedicated exclusively to anime and shows that attempt to be anime but this show is not supposed to be an anime, and was shown to many networks before landing on this one.
oh this is just an announcement of a criticism, that's why it's so short
As a lover of fantasy and video games I have watched a few episodes of HGS. The entire time I was brainstorming ideas for what magical powers Rose, Thyme, & Parsley should have as well as what monsters they would run into before reaching their destination.
There are few men on this earth with your resolve, may the force be with you.
Oh hey my favorite show
Awesome I look forward to the first episode of your new series with much antici......pation
I'm a simple person.
I see a video ripping High Guardian Spice for being the abomination it is, I like
Mr Enter…
You’re great.👍
Finally, the video people have been waiting for is finally here.
"This should be good."
-Everyone
Damn.. I was expecting a longer video all this time
Though in general I’d wish you’d talk about anime more often
I'll get my popcorn, this is going to be amusing.
Everytime i keep forgetting this show is a thing, someone I'm subscribed to reminds me of its existence.
I said this when it came out, and I'll say it again: High Guardian Spice is the YIIK of anime.
I guess my day at work wore me out more than I expected. I was so tired, I didn't realize until after I heard the video stop that this was a trailer. I literally hit the icon on my phone and put it back in my pocket to listen to . Lol
Yeah, the beginning of this video would not make you think that it's a trailer.
Says “Endor” shows Hoth. I got my eye on you, Enter. I do
Thank you for this!
This couldn’t possibly be more broken then superman 3 where half the plot points make no sense
Objection! When mentioning Endor you should a picture of hoth!
unironicly I would watch a 2 hour video. And that would be your first million video
Mr enter posts a videos
Me: heats up some popcorn, this should be interesting
Can’t wait!
The series that just keeps on giving, even when no one is asking and in fact everyone is saying "please stop"
And here we go!
Whoa, yay! It's a new episode. :D