It's funny that you bring up the "this is okay in a dungeons and dragons game but not in a cartoon" because another reviewer I've seen who tore into HGS said "This whole useless section (The montage of traveling and in the city) feels like a DnD campaign where the GM is DESPERATELY throwing out plot hooks in an attempt to get the players to stop faffing about and get to an actual story."
I actually encountered a similar problem with the book The Wise Man’s Fear by Patrick Rotfoot. It’s basically a book adaptation of a DND campaign with a bunch of random adventures spliced together. I made a summary of it in my channel.
i'm pretty sure the creation of this show went something like this "i want to create a cartoon" "do you know how to make one?" "no" "ok let's get started"
@@ivorynk752Cartoons made by people with no idea how to make cartoons can still be good if they have a clear idea of what cartoons they want to made. The creators weren't just bad at telling stories, they have no story to tell.
Rosemary: "My locket! It's supposed to protect me!" Me: "Ok, so it's magic?" Rosemary: "Metaphorically! The picture inside is irreplaceable!" Me: "Oh! Actually really good bait and switch to something emotional, it must have a picture of her mom in there so she can always remember-" Rosemary: "My Dad's Cheesecake!" Me: "....You were right there, you had a genuine touching scene right there, and you completely missed it."
This could have been an emotional scene, because the picture of the cheesecake IS of her and her mother eating it. It could have been a character moment of Rosemary trying to avoid talking about her missing mother by placing emphasis on the unimportant part, but eventually reveal the emotional ties. She could even have moments where she refuses to eat cheesecake because that was the last thing she ate with her mother and it brings her painful memories, for example. There is just SO MUCH that can be done with what they have set up, the problem is that the creator and writhers have no idea what they're doing.
Personally, I think they are interchangeable, but It would accurately reflect the title. Both in and out of the universe since Rosemary does end up calling their group High Guardian Spice.
The fact that there are actual cute names based off types of spices (Saffron, Paprika, Cinnamon, Basil, etc.) they could’ve used like Enter said. Instead, they used names of HERBS is so funny!
The dialogue reminds me of when Trey Parker and Matt Stone expressed frustration of getting new writers that wanted to write "gags" instead of a story and characters. Stuff like the cheesecake and necklace lines sound like they wanted to throw something "funny" in every two seconds instead of wanting to actually write dialogue that made sense.
Someone else mentioned this but _never put portals/teleportation into your magic system without giving them limitations_ because portals _immediately_ ruin any reason for characters to use any form of transportation, or even stairs. Like Harry Potter has Apparition, and the reason they don’t use it all the time is because you could potentially tear off your limbs.
Yeah, I once came across a stupid comment that claimed Harry Potter had bad worldbuilding because students ride the train to Hogearts when Apparation exists. I deconstructed that comment quickly in pointing out all forms of transportation in Harry Potter has its pros and cons. Apparation is quick and convenient to get to destinations, however, it's also incredibly uncomfortable, has the potential to go seriously wrong like splinching, and children require an adult just to get anywhere (and most don't have the constitution to tolerate it until they're 16, which raises the metaphor that it's the equivalent of Wizarding Driver's Ed). Plus Hogwarts has the anti-apparation field on the grounds as a security measure. Broom are like the equivalent to bicycles in that they could be used to travel short distances and cannot be interfered by the Ministry, however, flying in muggle spaces runs the risk of exposure and unless you know how to do the Undetectable Extension Charm, you're out of luck in carrying your luggage and cargo. The Floo Network works similarly to a phone network and Metro/Subway system, however, like Apparation, it has the potential to go wrong as Harry demonstrated in the 2nd book when he got lost and wound up in Knockturn Alley because he didn't speak his destination clearly (and the destination must be on the network and runs the risk of being interfered and monitored by the Ministry). The Knight Bus is used by stranded witches and wizards (either they're in the middle of nowhere, no broom, no Floo network, and can't apparate) but the ride is wild and intense. Portkeys are linear and require knowing what it is. Even Hogwarts Legacy opened with the New Student riding a flying carriage only to be intercepted by a dragon, and if they weren't being chaperoned by a Professor who could apparate, the game would've ended where it began with them as a red splatter from falling out of the sky. With the Hogwarts Express train, it's accessible to students of all ages and backgrounds (magic or muggle-born). Students can acclimate comfortably on the way to school while their parents know exactly where they are safely. And the train can carry students' luggage and cargo.
@@QuincyQuinn95And you can’t do it in Hogwarts unless the headmaster lifts the rule (which was just the Great Hall for teaching) or does it him or herself (as Dumbledore does in Half-Blood Prince). The Ministry and Gringotts would logically have the same limitation because they’re locations of significance, the latter since goblins are very particular about magical defences.
I swear to God, half of the "worldbuilding" in this show is just throwing random stuff on the screen because "it looks cool". It feels like the kind of story I would have made up when I was 12 years old
The more annoying part of the series is that clearly someone had some good ideas that you can see through all of the sludge, but they just get buried again. Cause if something is specifically bad you can just dismiss it, but sometimes you see what little good there is and you hope for more. And as a certain librarian said "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".
If the sneak peak of the show was about how diverse the crew was... I think they didn't care about the story really. I have no problem with diversity, just do it right. Which high guardian spice fails at. And magic.... And everything else.
SO true. I feel like some people might have wanted to dislike it because of the controversy around its creation and how Crunchyroll wasn't just giving the money they made to the Japanese animators that made their content, but I honestly think in an alternate universe I could have loved this show. A character driven high fantasy show with a blend of high school melodrama, action, and adventure, all with a heavy emphasis on color in the world and character design sound right up my alley. I honestly really wish it was good, lol
They coulda said for the broom thing: Rosemary: “Why didn’t we use the broom before? We coulda just flown there.” Sage: “I’m still practicing so I can’t use it for very long presently.” Boom, problem solved
I would just like to add that, if this show had done what you had suggested, not only would it have given an explenation - it would also have set up a minor goal and some potential character development for sage. (I mean, they'd still have to put in the effort for that to pay-off, but the potential is still there).
They don't even explain what a guardian is. You'd think guardians would have the duty of protecting the kingdom from monsters or invaders of other lands, helping the people in dangerous situations or being tasked to go on quest or missions. A waste of time, money and resources.
What does a Guardian do? Protect the townsfolk like Police? Protect Nature and Wildlife? Upkeep Magical Order? Or is it something like a giant robot with tentacled legs that chases after you and shoots lasers out of its eyes? Because I sure as hell don't know.
"There are no small potatoes; only large mouths," is a perfect way to summarize tearing this show apart; there certainly ARE no small potatoes when the problems snowball as much as they do in this trainwreck.
I read this comment before watching the video and I was so surprised when I heard Sage say it. I thought this was a quote from the critics of the show, but no, it actually comes from the show itself. That is so ridiculously ironic it's not even funny! It genuinely amazes me when quotes that so perfectly expose the problem with something comes from the very thing itself. It's like Sage herself is criticizing her own show.
This episode would have been A LOT better if, instead of a travel montage, it was about Rosemary and Sage struggling to get to the school. Maybe they struggle with reading maps since they never needed to learn before, so that's why they're taking public transportation since they don't know how to get to the school on their own, but something happens along the way that drags out their trip in a comedic fashion. Maybe Rosemary loses her locket to an animal, and she spends the whole trip trying to get it back . Along the way, the girls meet Parsley and Thyme, and they all band together to get the locket back. At the very least, it would provide a simple conflict so that there is SOMETHING interesting going on that also allows the writers to show off their main characters and how they handle a situation while bonding along the way. It would have some character chemistry.
Like in Little Witch Academia where Akko was waitting for an magical buss to pick her up but she finds out she need to fly on a broom to get to school, but the issue is she does not know how to do it. That way we have also an introduction to her future best friend
THIS is what I hate most HGS: it could've been better. Maybe nothing groundbreaking, but still more entertaining and enjoyable than what we actually got...😢
Hell, they could take from anime and make getting to the school a part of the requirements to getting into the school. Having to use simple magic to get to the right places at the right time, small trials/ tricks that weed out the chaft, or a sudo tournament to determine skill sets. But why would guardian spice be inspired by anime?
Yeah bringing up this show's "influences" like LWA or Madoka is interesting. I bring up Madoka cause Rosemary definitely have the same sort of design, in fact in early webcomics that this was sorta based on, she looked almost exactly like Madoka. I don't think Enter will bring those webcomics up but still.
@@CoffeeFlavoredMilk I find it odd this show models it’s main character on something as deep, dark, and brutally subversive as PMMM, Something Old Spice certainly is NOT.
I can easily imagine mages killing innocent people by putting them into doorless rooms that are like 50 levels deep. And nobody knows or thinks this is possible.
@@ryancraig110 I prefer swimming pools as it is faster or maybe setting something on fire, but I too, immediately thought of the Sims upon seeing this comment
Could the reason Rose is trying to hide the real meaning of the photo is because she's trying to act tough and doesn't want anyone to actually know about her emotional vulnerability? Regardless of intent, it's written like a plot twist, but it's a plot twist where the twist has no real meaning to the story.
Yes, that would make sense if the show actually did anything with it and if the person Rosemary is trying to fool was not somebody who should know better.
@@schwarzerritter5724 I agree! This would make more sense with someone like Thyme who thinks Rosemary's a crazy sword wielding maniac. Having a moment where she realizes the true meaning behind her locket would show Rosemary has more depth to her character at the same time we the audience would've. This could've been more effective in my opinion.
@@nekonomicon2983 It's a running thing with this show: there are moments that almost work. It's like the people making it have seen TV shows in the past, but don't really understand how they work. Or, in other words, they are amateurs.
The thing that always annoys me about Slime Boy is that the voice actor for him was the main character in 'The Orbiting Human Circus' podcast and he's good there. It just shows that they didn't really give the actors direction
unrelated but he was also one of the main members of the band neutral milk hotel which is wild, his character in the show even plays the saw which he can play in real life
This is basically "Steven Universe" but it's the "Steven Universe we have back at home." You have Rosemary who's basically Steven without the pacifist attitude. Sage is Pearl without actual emotional baggage... and a personality. Parsley is Amethyst since they are both short... and that's it. And Thyme is Garnet, the actual "popular" one.
Back in 2018 when the HGS trailer came around, most people even thought that HGS was simply capitalizing on the success of Steven Universe, which was popular during that time. I believe that is true because of how a lot of "diverse" shows released during those times followed the formula SU had when it comes to writing progressive matters, and HGS seem to be the perfect example of a show "copying" SU.
@@GatlingPea32 ¿Are Steven Universe's clones a thing? I mean, cartoon shows trying to copy or imitate other shows are nothing new, when The Simpsons started to get popular there were a couple of attempts to make adult-oriented cartoons, there were also SpongeBob clones such as Coconut Fred and Adventure Time inspired many copycats that only copied superficial elements. In some aspects I think Steven Universe owes a little bit of its existence to Adventure Time, perhaps shows like Twelve Forever, the She-Ra reboot, The Owl House and Amphibia could be considered SU clones, though they also remind me of Gravity Falls
Here's how (in my view) the first episode could have been better: - We start at Peeble with an younger Rose (around 6 or 7 years old) and her simple life, showing her relationships with her father, brother, Sage, the city folks and her mother. We will have the "Ordinary World" in the "Hero's Journey" Method and we get to know the importance of certain characters in Rose's life, we are also presented to Peeble in a better way. - Since this show wants to draw attention to Rose's mom, we could see how her mom treats with Rose and how the whole guardian things work (maybe they can play a special board game that Rose's mother keeps over-exagerating the game to give it more emotion for her child, using her own adventures to add detail to the story [of course, she doesn't fully tell those stories due to a heavy presence of death and unless you want to have a little bloolust kid or someone without any empathy, you shouldn't tell a child gorey stuff]) -- We are presented in the show (by details given by Rose's mom) that Guardians are specialized soldiers that either work as knights for the villages or go on hunts to collect items for studies of medicine, monstorlogy ( monsters and their weakness), etc. - To resume it: Royal Knights/bounty hunters. - We are shown the events that will scar Rose and motivate her, maybe it could be that when she was a kid, during a fair with her family, an invasion of monsters happens and she sees carnage and chaos happening around her and so, she gets lost in Peeble, running for her life, only to find her mother fighting part of the monster hoard. The two would have the mission to get Rose back to safety so she doesn't have to see more carnage, but it is hard as it is almost impossible finding a street without a monster. They ended up cornored and so, in a nearby tarvern, Lavander (i think that's Rose's mom's name) manages to find a safe spot in there and asks her child noit to leave it at any cost. with fear running in her veins, Rose obeys her and so, we are taken to her perspective, as we only hear loud screams of agony from random citizens , monsters roar and an almost unhearable sword slashing flesh. After everything calms down, Rose's dad finds her, as he hugs her, believing she was gone like most citizens from Peeble. We see the huge parts of the village destroyed, covered in human and monster blood. Rose finds Sage who was out of Peeble with her mother to buy some herbs for her mother's tea company, calming Rose down as she sees her best friend alive and well...only then to her to find a sword....Lavander's sword... Rose grabs it and she screams for her mother, only to get no response from her. Rose cries out her fear on the blade of the sword, while Sage tries to calm her friend, even if she doesn't know the full story. It is left clear nobody knows what happened to Lavander, if she has died or not.... (Her mystery would be treated in the same way like Milton's mystery from "What Remains of Edith Finch", where sure, it is important, but it isn't the main focus of the story, but it is necessary to explore this event when needed) - In the more modern times, we see a 14 year old Rose putting flowers on her mother's old training room alongside a picture of Lavander hugging her daughter. We see Rose prepared for something and so, she is called by someone in the living room. It is Sage who is awaiting her friend to get ready so they can go to the "The Royal Services Academy" (sorry, couldn't think of a better name). Both want to go there different reasons - Sage wants to follow her own path, wanting to do more than serve tea alongside her mom, wanting to be a mage of epic proportions and also to become a sidekick for Rose, meanwhile Rose is motivated by her mother, wanting to become a protector of those who can't fight and only give that up when she dies. - We would see the girls being like...how can i say.... Cuphead and Mugman - Rose would be an immature kid who thinks she knows what she is doing and ends up creating more problems or worsing them up, altought she has a good heart and would go out of her ways to protect the ones who she loves, while Sage would be the cowardly yet smart gal, the one who seems like the opposite to Rose, altough she also wants to protect the ones she loves. I think Cuphead and Mugman managed to master the idea of a duo that are different from each other in "The Cuphead Show" due to their personalities and how one bounces one of each other. In the case of Rose and Sage, they can have different views and different ways they react to other people (Maybe Sage could be more cunning and Rose doesn't really like to manipulate people or how Rose is whilling to sacrifice everything to the extreme just to avoid people from falling into the same fate her mother did) - In my view, i think the best constrast is how their friendship, altough good, harms each other, but not really being toxic - Due to losing her mother, we would see Rose trying to avoid seeing herself as weak, but they will eventually will slip up from her control and Sage is trying to control her - the problem is that it creates on Sage a sense of opposite dependence, where she thinks she needs to always help Rose, but in reality, it makes Rose get no true freedom from Sage, there for, it causes a bigger problem, as Rose thinks it is Sage who needs help and so, she acts even more ruthless and cause more of her loss of her mother to apper, almost creating a never ending cycle. When it comes to the plot, i think the episode should be the girls interacting with their new interactions, as the episode would focus more on that than they reaching the town itself. They could see how new magic is used (like using energy inside a piece of coal itself to create fire to cook a steak), what are they going to experience and even the dangers of the town (such as robbers). sorry for the long text people... i just wanted to share my view on this episode
"unless you want to have an Eric Cartman, you shouldn't tell a child gorey stuff]" That isn't why Eric is a jerk in cannon. In cannon, he is a jerk because his mom spoils him. So since when does seeing gory stuff make children sadistic in the real world?
@@Sewblon I was in the meaning of becoming someone distant with the things of sensiblity to someone getting hurt, to the point that if for too long,someone loses their senses of fear or empathy for someone, like shock fatigue,where something happens so often,you lose that sense. I picked Cartman because if you killed someone's family,forced fed their family to that person and managed to make his favorite band call him a crybaby all because of some cash,it isn't really far fetched to believe you quite lost to the sentiment of empathy to the point cooking people isn't a big deal for you. But now that you mentioned... you're right. Since i did commit that mistake and grammar errors too,i am going to edit this. Thanks for helping me realize my mistake, have a good evening.
I'm so happy you're talking about this. I feel bad because the concept has the potential to be entertaining (look at Little Witch Academia, Winx Club, or Harry Potter), but it's clear they didn't know what they were doing.
I think that Raye and the rest of the staff wanted to make a fantasy show inspired in part by the anime that Raye used to watch when he was young, like Magic Knight Rayearth, people say that the HGS copied most of its ideas from Little Witch Academia, but in Raye's defense he pitched HGS to some networks back in 2013 when LWA just premiered its first OVA, so the similarities are just coincidental, besides, the concept of a magic academy is pretty old The main issue is that the show's staff didn't make a good job at creating an interesting premise, with likeable characters, it feels like the series just tries to checks boxes of the most popular clichés from popular cartoon and anime, making direct references to popular series and imitating superficial aspects from better written shows like Steven Universe
@@pablocasas5906Steven Universe is only better written because HGS set such an incredibly low bar even something with the slightest iota of more effort will surpass it.
Looping back around, the "magical adventure school" idea has been around for so long and visited by so many creators that there's not really a whole lot new to add to the mix.
That was one of the few instances where dragging out the joke worked in its favor-because it annoyed Shrek to the point him stating it. Not to mention, it was Far Far Away.
This show feels like a forced western version of Little Witch Academia or Madoka Magica, but without the elements that made the two japanese series interesting to follow.
I'm going to give Raye Rodríguez and his team some slack, I don't think HGS is a LWA rip-off, since technically Raye pitched the idea of HGS to some networks in 2013, the same year the first LWA OVA premiered. Though Rosemary's earlier designs looked very similar to Madoka Kaname In some interviews Raye said he used to watch anime like Magic Knight Rayearth when he was younger, I think I can see some similarities between Rosemary and Hikaru. Still, the show fails very horribly at trying to imitate anime shows, that's something that I think very few Western animators can't seem to get right
Interesting point too on that worldbuilding point about accessibility; one of my favourite parts of Zootopia was actually the attention to this. They built a society with a ton of vastly different species all held to a roughly equal social status (with rhe inequality intentionally highlighted as a plot point) by taking on things like these size differences headfirst. Multiple public transport options are seen, doorways tend to be very big to accomodate just about everyone, entire biomes ideal to certain species are built around their comfort. Times where for example, Judy is too short for something, is intentional to communicate a societal issue of stereotyping, like all the police training desks being built for the assumedly big and strong species and nearly unusable by her as a rabbit. And one thing I hope to see more with fictional societies with bigger physical differences in their members, is more acknowledgment of disabikity and drawing from exactly what various disabled communities have said is a needed accomodation to allow them equality. The real world literally has people who need different infrastructure to what we see commonly irl to access public areas better, draw from it! Even little acknowledgements of differences I see irl like signs warning tall people to mind their heads would be a welcome addition in a building built for a fantasy dwarf, or visible step stools available for shorter people in spaces designed for giants, even imperfect accomodations like this make for better worldbuilding. It helps a world feel as real as remembering to design an animated house to have windows because real houses have windows. And not to go on too long, but im personally really interested in seeing what fantasy worlds define their idea of disability as too! An example of media I've consumed that seems to establish this in universe (but unfortunately doesn't explore it much) is My Hero Academia. The lead character is a regular kid, but by his universe's 80% superpowered society, has a disability that about 1 in 5 people have, that does impact his quality of life, especially for his career prospects. Idk I just want to see more of it.
That is an interesting example of world-building. Cars 1 has a similar idea, although much more fictional, obviously. Since the characters are, well, cars, the world is built to be usable by cars. Buttons to activate things are placed on the ground, tools are gripped onto the cars, whell lockers are used as a stand-in for handcuffs, the characters drink OIL which is fitting because most vehicles in the real world use oil (outside of electric ones, obviously). Another fictional example would be My Little Pony, which also has to have it's world be adapted to be usable by 4 legged animals who obviously lack hands.
Unironically, sheeps managed to turn the predators in their savages states. Well not all predator, i think that the mom of Judy had a brother that bite her.
Correction. Rosemary is not a space alien, she is a consumption demon. Which is why she eats sleep. This is totally logical and should not be questioned.
It would have made more sense if Rosemary herself didn't know that the picture inside had her whole family in it when her father gave the locket to her...only to make the discovery after the locket breaks. Then bam, you would have had your emotional moment that she and Sage could have shared together.
Trust me, the second the trailer came out in 2017, we all had our hopes low due to the trailer talking more about how “diverse” the crew is instead of the show
@@BlueBlazeKing In my defense, I never heard of this show until it came out, so I never watched the trailers. I just saw some screenshots and thought "hey, this looks kinda nice". Then I dug deeper changed my mind to phrases such as "Oh no" and "Oh god no".
To any viewers who have not seen this show (please don't, first off), then kindly understand that Enter's just getting warmed up. Shit is gonna get REAL bad later.
Both the lines about the cheesecake and the locket being a cheap necklace could have been solved with characterization. If Rosemary was doing everything she could to hide vulnerability or sadness, even to the point of her best friend not knowing the extent, those lines could have retroactively worked. Oh, it's not because it's a picture of my family, it's because I just love cheesecake. It's just a cheap necklace because it's the picture that matters. I say weird things because I'm both naturally upbeat but also hiding something more beneath the surface. Cliches don't necessarily mean bad writing, it's the implementation that matters. Being a happy person doesn't have to be a front. It could be natural, but even happy people have baggage, and might be inclined to suppress it for the benefit of others and to the detriment of themselves, the degree of which is determined by their personality. It's a believable and relatable struggle. Beyond that, she might not be wise enough to even realize that part of herself, allowing for character growth. Full disclosure, I haven't watched the show, myself, so maybe they do attempt that kind of thing later, but even if they do, I don't have high hopes for the execution.
I saw a couple scenes of the show in small doses on UA-cam, so I may as well say that HGS is like if Steven Universe, My Little Witch Academia, and RWBY were put into a blender, but they forgot to put the blade underneath (you could see this as forgetting to draft or some other thing) and the stuff just gets all over inside the compartment making a mess.
Same here, I'm an aspiring artist, writer, and voice actor, I could try making something, although making it better than this isn't exactly a high bar, so I might do fine
this is like if harry potter started with harry and the weaslys arriving at the train station getting ready to board hogwarts express. and they just had harry and ron talk about how living with the dursleys sucked, and diagon alley was quirky. and hermione walked by, acted snooty, and left with no introduction to our main characters.
Harry Potter started so well, the 2nd is even better. Arthur asked to Harry questions about what the muggles do, and how amazed he was about things that we found to be common.
I'll give RWBY Volume 1 this much, I at least know what a Hunter is, what the school is for, and what Grimm are so that puts it above HGS by a country mile.
Oh boy I was looking forward to this. It's fun to pick apart a bad piece of art because that's the time you truly see the mechanics of it. A well crafted story doesn't have you thinking about the fact that it all just a story and what goes into crafting it, it just draws you into the experience.
Saw episode one and was board to tears. Rosemary is a sociopath no one would swing a sword that dangerously, if she did that to me I'd take her sword away.
Amaryllis is unironically the best character. She didn't started in a good light, but the character developped and even stood up for Snapdragon. They even played a VR game together.
Re-draft your scripts and you wont. Listen to criticisms and you won't. Don't include politics or social commentary and you won't. Actually care about your work and you won't.
I feel like this episode should have focused more on their life before they went to the Acadamy, their friends, their families, their daily routines, etc. Just so we could get a feel for what they had.
@@nekonomicon2983 yes, this, we don't really get a scope of what these two lost as we never know what exactly pebble as a town is, if this was the place we started out with and got comfortable with in the first episode, maybe even the first two episodes, leaving pebble would certainly have more impact.
I thought that reason why Rosemary hide it being about her mom is because it hints to Sage's obsessive/nastey behavior. She doesn't fully trust her with everything in her on a subconcious level. It may also make more sense for it to be tied to the promotional food thats tied to Rosemary and Lavander. It may be a picture of the Boysin Barry cheese cake but have the recipie of her mom wrote on the back- maybe even the recipie of the cheesecake showing her ties to food and her parents without being overtly stupid?
After you finish this series, I'm going to watch it all again and make a "You just made your DnD campaign/characters into a show, didn't you?" counter.
I think it would have been cute if since the girls were poor their parents initially try to get them tickets for the train which would have taken them directly to the academy without any stops & is the main mode of transportation for most of the students. Aside from Snapdragon and Amyelia's who could have a carriage they arrive in instead due to being upper-class & the carriages would cost more to ride. It could be rosemary's suggestion that Sage and Her use sage's broom to fly to the school. Sage being the more cautious one would be hesitant to agree with her idea due to 1. not being a very skilled flyer & the 2. the broom being older and belonging to both her mother & grandmother previously. Rosemary could then ask Sage how they should get to school, if they can't board the train & they can't use her broom. Then you could have a short montage ( about a minute maybe less ) of the girls sneaking onto different modes of transportation to get to the school. Then you could have a small joke about the girls looking messy by the time they arrive at the school.
This feels like they were writing a script for a very cheap generic JRPG, but had no idea how game development worked so they just made it a show instead. Or they were just writing down everything that happened in a D&D campaign, and they really suck at D&D.
Would have been a LOT funnier if this show had the audience ASSUME the locket had something important, and one BRIEF chase scene later, she got the locket back and THEN revealed it contains a picture of cake. HA! And then, later, she reveals the locket ACTUALLY contained a photograph of someone important to her she doesn't want the world to know is important to her, like a Dark Lord Of Evil who used to be her mother/aunt/whatever and hadn't gone bad yet. "This episode tells us nothing"? It tells us this show is going to be bad.
why couldn't they just make rose say "it's a very important picture" and be very vague about it, then the reveal of the family picture and the reason why she didn't say what it was is because she didn't wanna seem "childish" by missing her parents or something like that. didn't watch the show so its not a petfect fix but at least itll make some sense.
Agreed! Despite the many flaws RWBY has, at least effort was put into the series. HSG doesn't even try it's bad from the beginning,middle and end. I'll give the later seasons of Rwby credit for trying but HGS absolutely not!
They could of built up what was in the locket throughout the episode only to have the cheesecake be the payoff and then reveal the full photo like SpongeBob did in the Secret Box episode. 😤
If they wanted to make a proper joke she could’ve just said to get the locket back because it’s irreplaceable and then Sage would only see the cheesecake when they got it back and have the full photo reveal afterward Every clip sounds like a first draft script that was supposed to be rewritten
If we're gonna be nitpicky with this first video... I HATE Rosemary's hairstyle. It's so ludicrous and impractical. She must use an ozone hole producing amount of hairspray just to get it to stand that way. What would've been the problem with two hair buns? or just her long hair loose? HECK, you could make the argument she was imitating her disappeared mother that way, as a small tribute to her. All of this show SCREAMS "First draft"
It makes me think I could do a better cartoon myself, int terms of writing at least. I have experience in hand drawn animation and unimpressive and riddled with errors as this is, would be a LOT of work for one person.
The thing is. The characters being named after herbs even though the title is High Guardian Spice could have made a funny joke in the show. Had any of the characters (or writers) been self aware enough to point it out. Such a waste!
This show has a lot of elements for the sake of having them. "The outside world is big" is a classic trope, which is why it's in the show, but that's it. The writers pasted it in without any set up. Same with the fantastic traveling vehicles. Pasted in because other franchise did it. Here is a game for you all. Make a check list of all tropes and elements you recognized from shows/books/movies and think about how much nothing it doesn't in High Guardian, how it's just a pasted in trope. This show is just tropes without any substance
The thing is that a big fantasy world is easy to make work. Especially in the anime style. Take Kuma Kuma Kuma bear, the big world is implied but not stated until needed. And it's an isekai, so this is how it's used. The main character who is isekaid into this world, from our world. They expect everything to be like a western fantasy since that's what they were introduced to. Then they travel, realizing how big this world is. They travel outside of the kingdom they're in, because they are from Japan, and want to be around a more Japanese leaning culture, from homesickness. Not only do they learn this exists in this world, but they also proceed to travel there, and spend time there. It makes sense.
I have mentally re-written this episode (and many others) in my head under the new title of "The Tales of Culinarie" (like in culinary arts aka cooking). *The premise is that in the Kingdom of Culinarie, a black plague substance known as "The Rot" has been spreading all across the land & seas. Rotting, corrupting, & killing everything in its path cause many to get sick, starve, or even die for the lack of fresh food. So the survivors quickly form a boot camp campaign to train people into becoming cheknights (chefs+knights) that use cooking utensils & fresh ingredients to fight of The Rot before it spreads any further or get worse. The four main characters are Paprika/Rika (replacement for Rosemary), Mint (replacement for Sage), Cinnamon (replacement for Parsley), and Ginger (replacement for Thyme). Rika is an optimistic good-getter sousercess (sous chef + sorceress) who joins the Cheknights to protect her family's bakery from having to going out of business (and from having to use AI aka artificial ingredients) & find her lost brother, Fennel, who disappeared years ago trying to fight The Rot. Her weapon of choice a magic spoon wand. Mint is Rika's long-time friend & neighbor, who becomes a cleeviteer (cleever knife + muskateer), despite being all mousey & uncertain of herself, she's actually very handy with her weapons of choice: Knife swords. Cinnamon is the only boy of the main four, but he treats his female friends with respect & is willing to fight beside them. He's also a wild hobbit hybrid with keen senses of smell & sound, making him a great tracker & navigator. His weapons of choice are skewer javelins. Ginger is an elf with a bipolar image. By that I mean that she may look all skinny & weak, but she's actually the physically strongest of the lead characters, yet still have a sweet demeanor. Her weapon of choice is a meat tenderizering war hammer.
The actual spice related names and the more food related themes in the revision as opposed to the generic medieval fantasy setting made this a lot more bearable.
@@GravityFaiz Thank you. I also changed the school setting to a more boot/military camp with a mix of cooking lessons. Kind of like the Fry Cook Games from "Spongebob Squarepants" or any of the food themed martial arts from "Ranma 1/2." And instead of naming the characters after herbs & flowers (that quite frankly don't suit any of the characters' designs) each set of characters follows a theme. *The core characters are named after spices. *The military authorities (replacing the teachers/professors/principal/headmaster) are named after teas. Like Earl Gray, Boba, Chai, Ginseng, and Herbal. *Any wild life and/or plants the characters come across are named after the animals/plants combined with foods they are mixed with (kind of like the Foodimals from "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2" ). Lastly, instead of the mother character that has gone missing & later turns out to be a traitor working for the enemy; it's main character's brother that was said to have disappeared years ago, and he actually helps his sister & friends in the shadows along the journey/mission to destroy The Rot.
We need to go back to the early 2010s era of animation and try a different fork in the road. Don't sacrifice good writing, but for plonk's sake, we need to explore some more aesthetically attractive art styles. No more Tumblr nose, no bean mouth, no calarts spaghetti arms, and especially no more beards-for-everybody. Bring sexy back, for crying out loud.
I still consider HGS to be the biggest example of missed potential. If the scripts and plot went through a few revisions and the voice actors had better direction, I don't think it'd be a masterpiece, but I do think it would ultimately be a servicable show starring cute witches named after herbs. As it stands, we have a show where even the most minor of problems with the writing snowball into something bigger thanks to the literal first draft-tier writing.
I wish High Guardian Spice was better I feel there a real good show hidden in there but things went wrong internally making a mess this show could of connected with many people like me.
The ending theme song reeks of desperation Also, the disclaimer is appreciated and yet I think you say what needs to be said,even if others consider it "nitpicking"
I would have much preferred a series where the entire premise was Rosemary and Sage auditioning for the academy and needed a certain length of time in the real world doing quests for guilds and learning just what an undertaking being a guardian is all about. There, I just fixed the series immediately.
They didn't even keep Chompy around. Even RWBY knew to not introduce a pet character until a bit later at least... alluded to Zwei in more than his introduction...
"That's family, Even if you can't see them, they're always there for you" Cheesy? Yes Better than randomly keeping the picture of your family out of sight in your locket? Absolutely
I never expected to get such a nostalgia bomb from this of all things. The background music from the early Harry Potter games made me want to replay them for the thousandth time. Those games were some of the first games I've played.
This is what happens when you have a group of twitter weirdos that have an obsession with Steven Universe and magical girl school anime, and want to make their own.
The alpha art design that was leaked sometime ago. It was done before Steven Universe even aired. They were clearly very bad knock off drawings of Madoka Magica girls. Which is painfully obvious it was the basis for Rosemary. Comic strips were released. Sane quality with zero improvements. This show only exist to fill in diversity quotas the western industry is so obsessed with. Without any rythme of reason. The creator even spent years trying to get his creation green lit by a studio. Every single one rejected it. Chruchyroll green lit it and allowed it to happen for political reasons and it's a god awful company.
I woukd have established going on a magic broom rather than a magic plane train as like going on a car or bus instead of flying when you got accepted into Harverd.
I don't know what could have saved this because it's not clear exactly where and how everything failed. Give an inept writer infinite time and infinite money and they might make a masterpiece eventually or they might remain inept.
This is basically a "if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bike, scenario. I believe that in order for the show to be good it would have to be changed so significantly that it would be unrecognizable.
It's funny that you bring up the "this is okay in a dungeons and dragons game but not in a cartoon" because another reviewer I've seen who tore into HGS said "This whole useless section (The montage of traveling and in the city) feels like a DnD campaign where the GM is DESPERATELY throwing out plot hooks in an attempt to get the players to stop faffing about and get to an actual story."
Was it LobsterHero? Because I think he said that in one of his videos on HGS.
I actually encountered a similar problem with the book The Wise Man’s Fear by Patrick Rotfoot. It’s basically a book adaptation of a DND campaign with a bunch of random adventures spliced together. I made a summary of it in my channel.
I know Literature Devil said that about the things they pass in town, that are more interesting than some critter.
@@Falcovsleon21It's from Literature Devil. Around 6 minutes into his video.
So you know all the people who claim to be the next Critical role and fail miserably? This is like that but with Vox Machina
i'm pretty sure the creation of this show went something like this
"i want to create a cartoon"
"do you know how to make one?"
"no"
"ok let's get started"
That would explain the animation errors but not the dialogue.
@@ivorynk752considering HGS began as a Madoka Magica fanfic, the bad dialouge makes a lot of sense
@@ivorynk752Cartoons made by people with no idea how to make cartoons can still be good if they have a clear idea of what cartoons they want to made. The creators weren't just bad at telling stories, they have no story to tell.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 Yeah if your world and story don’t have a solid foundation no amount of budget will make it better.
Sounds like too many restaurants that were on Kitchen Nightmares. One owner said on camera that she didn’t think inexperience would be a problem.
Rosemary: "My locket! It's supposed to protect me!"
Me: "Ok, so it's magic?"
Rosemary: "Metaphorically! The picture inside is irreplaceable!"
Me: "Oh! Actually really good bait and switch to something emotional, it must have a picture of her mom in there so she can always remember-"
Rosemary: "My Dad's Cheesecake!"
Me: "....You were right there, you had a genuine touching scene right there, and you completely missed it."
This could have been an emotional scene, because the picture of the cheesecake IS of her and her mother eating it.
It could have been a character moment of Rosemary trying to avoid talking about her missing mother by placing emphasis on the unimportant part, but eventually reveal the emotional ties. She could even have moments where she refuses to eat cheesecake because that was the last thing she ate with her mother and it brings her painful memories, for example.
There is just SO MUCH that can be done with what they have set up, the problem is that the creator and writhers have no idea what they're doing.
Ginger, Cinnamon, Saffron, and Pepper. My god, those names are not only actual spices, but they actually sound better too.
This show was a mistake.
Personally, I think they are interchangeable, but It would accurately reflect the title. Both in and out of the universe since Rosemary does end up calling their group High Guardian Spice.
Rosemary is a pretty cute name. I even gave it to my Princess OC.
You know it’s bad when a character is most likable in the episode where she doesn’t have a personality yet.
For real, though, Parsley should've been the main character
Sad too as I love spellcasters.
The fact that there are actual cute names based off types of spices (Saffron, Paprika, Cinnamon, Basil, etc.) they could’ve used like Enter said. Instead, they used names of HERBS is so funny!
My question is, who is the best character in the show that can just be named "Salt"?
Spices that could be female names: Clover, Saffron, Basil, Dill, Ginger
@@AkameGaKillfan777slime boy
The dialogue reminds me of when Trey Parker and Matt Stone expressed frustration of getting new writers that wanted to write "gags" instead of a story and characters. Stuff like the cheesecake and necklace lines sound like they wanted to throw something "funny" in every two seconds instead of wanting to actually write dialogue that made sense.
Where did they express this? In an interview? I'm curious.
Someone else mentioned this but _never put portals/teleportation into your magic system without giving them limitations_ because portals _immediately_ ruin any reason for characters to use any form of transportation, or even stairs. Like Harry Potter has Apparition, and the reason they don’t use it all the time is because you could potentially tear off your limbs.
+you need to be a certain age and certified to use it iirc
Either that or just turn it into the power of a single being who isn't a hero nor a villain, like Yukari from Touhou
Yeah, I once came across a stupid comment that claimed Harry Potter had bad worldbuilding because students ride the train to Hogearts when Apparation exists. I deconstructed that comment quickly in pointing out all forms of transportation in Harry Potter has its pros and cons. Apparation is quick and convenient to get to destinations, however, it's also incredibly uncomfortable, has the potential to go seriously wrong like splinching, and children require an adult just to get anywhere (and most don't have the constitution to tolerate it until they're 16, which raises the metaphor that it's the equivalent of Wizarding Driver's Ed). Plus Hogwarts has the anti-apparation field on the grounds as a security measure. Broom are like the equivalent to bicycles in that they could be used to travel short distances and cannot be interfered by the Ministry, however, flying in muggle spaces runs the risk of exposure and unless you know how to do the Undetectable Extension Charm, you're out of luck in carrying your luggage and cargo. The Floo Network works similarly to a phone network and Metro/Subway system, however, like Apparation, it has the potential to go wrong as Harry demonstrated in the 2nd book when he got lost and wound up in Knockturn Alley because he didn't speak his destination clearly (and the destination must be on the network and runs the risk of being interfered and monitored by the Ministry). The Knight Bus is used by stranded witches and wizards (either they're in the middle of nowhere, no broom, no Floo network, and can't apparate) but the ride is wild and intense. Portkeys are linear and require knowing what it is. Even Hogwarts Legacy opened with the New Student riding a flying carriage only to be intercepted by a dragon, and if they weren't being chaperoned by a Professor who could apparate, the game would've ended where it began with them as a red splatter from falling out of the sky.
With the Hogwarts Express train, it's accessible to students of all ages and backgrounds (magic or muggle-born). Students can acclimate comfortably on the way to school while their parents know exactly where they are safely. And the train can carry students' luggage and cargo.
@@QuincyQuinn95And you can’t do it in Hogwarts unless the headmaster lifts the rule (which was just the Great Hall for teaching) or does it him or herself (as Dumbledore does in Half-Blood Prince). The Ministry and Gringotts would logically have the same limitation because they’re locations of significance, the latter since goblins are very particular about magical defences.
It’s also very loud because of the air displacement, and isn’t useful when trying to remain hidden like they were in book 7
I swear to God, half of the "worldbuilding" in this show is just throwing random stuff on the screen because "it looks cool".
It feels like the kind of story I would have made up when I was 12 years old
Hey! Give some credit to 12 year olds, they could make better worldbuilding than this.
@@gab_v250 I would know. I used to be one.
Yeah, this show favors cool visuals over substance or storytelling.
Honestly, that's kind of the appeal. If it had been just some fluff saturday morning cartoon, it could have served its purpose.
@@andykishore Which even then are ruined by all of the animation errors and cheapness in certain objects
For a group called High Guardian Spice, all main characters are named after herbs.
I guess High Guardian Herbs just didn't quite roll off the tongue
@@nekonomicon2983 yet they call their main characters after herbs, so where the spice come from?
It’s so funny. Did the creators at least look for actual spice names for any of the characters?? 😂
That really is the least of this show's problems, right alongside complaining about the names in RWBY being mispronounced.
@@nekonomicon2983I think it would make people think it were a weed smoking show.
The more annoying part of the series is that clearly someone had some good ideas that you can see through all of the sludge, but they just get buried again. Cause if something is specifically bad you can just dismiss it, but sometimes you see what little good there is and you hope for more.
And as a certain librarian said "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".
Which librarian was that?
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If the sneak peak of the show was about how diverse the crew was... I think they didn't care about the story really.
I have no problem with diversity, just do it right. Which high guardian spice fails at.
And magic.... And everything else.
SO true. I feel like some people might have wanted to dislike it because of the controversy around its creation and how Crunchyroll wasn't just giving the money they made to the Japanese animators that made their content, but I honestly think in an alternate universe I could have loved this show.
A character driven high fantasy show with a blend of high school melodrama, action, and adventure, all with a heavy emphasis on color in the world and character design sound right up my alley.
I honestly really wish it was good, lol
They coulda said for the broom thing:
Rosemary: “Why didn’t we use the broom before? We coulda just flown there.”
Sage: “I’m still practicing so I can’t use it for very long presently.”
Boom, problem solved
I would just like to add that, if this show had done what you had suggested, not only would it have given an explenation - it would also have set up a minor goal and some potential character development for sage. (I mean, they'd still have to put in the effort for that to pay-off, but the potential is still there).
Even an off-hand "my broom was charging!" would've done wonders for world building.
@@Jh5kRadioI kinda like the idea of brooms only really being used for short journeys. It even gives younger characters mobility, but within reason.
They don't even explain what a guardian is. You'd think guardians would have the duty of protecting the kingdom from monsters or invaders of other lands, helping the people in dangerous situations or being tasked to go on quest or missions. A waste of time, money and resources.
What does a Guardian do? Protect the townsfolk like Police? Protect Nature and Wildlife? Upkeep Magical Order? Or is it something like a giant robot with tentacled legs that chases after you and shoots lasers out of its eyes? Because I sure as hell don't know.
"There are no small potatoes; only large mouths," is a perfect way to summarize tearing this show apart; there certainly ARE no small potatoes when the problems snowball as much as they do in this trainwreck.
I read this comment before watching the video and I was so surprised when I heard Sage say it.
I thought this was a quote from the critics of the show, but no, it actually comes from the show itself.
That is so ridiculously ironic it's not even funny! It genuinely amazes me when quotes that so perfectly expose the problem with something comes from the very thing itself. It's like Sage herself is criticizing her own show.
I’d never understood what sage meant by potatoes and mouths?? Seriously, why can the writers write better dialogue than whatever the 🤬 this is.
This episode would have been A LOT better if, instead of a travel montage, it was about Rosemary and Sage struggling to get to the school. Maybe they struggle with reading maps since they never needed to learn before, so that's why they're taking public transportation since they don't know how to get to the school on their own, but something happens along the way that drags out their trip in a comedic fashion. Maybe Rosemary loses her locket to an animal, and she spends the whole trip trying to get it back . Along the way, the girls meet Parsley and Thyme, and they all band together to get the locket back.
At the very least, it would provide a simple conflict so that there is SOMETHING interesting going on that also allows the writers to show off their main characters and how they handle a situation while bonding along the way. It would have some character chemistry.
agreed.
Like in Little Witch Academia where Akko was waitting for an magical buss to pick her up but she finds out she need to fly on a broom to get to school, but the issue is she does not know how to do it.
That way we have also an introduction to her future best friend
THIS is what I hate most HGS: it could've been better. Maybe nothing groundbreaking, but still more entertaining and enjoyable than what we actually got...😢
and it could help that whole line of how small their hometown is, if they manage to get to a high place and they can see it just on the horizon
Hell, they could take from anime and make getting to the school a part of the requirements to getting into the school. Having to use simple magic to get to the right places at the right time, small trials/ tricks that weed out the chaft, or a sudo tournament to determine skill sets.
But why would guardian spice be inspired by anime?
There is something so surreal about Mr. Enter acknowledging the existence of an anime character like Akko.
Her name was Akko.
Yeah bringing up this show's "influences" like LWA or Madoka is interesting. I bring up Madoka cause Rosemary definitely have the same sort of design, in fact in early webcomics that this was sorta based on, she looked almost exactly like Madoka. I don't think Enter will bring those webcomics up but still.
@@maykechi7752I though Akko was her nickname. Much like Deku was Izuku’s nickname.
@@CoffeeFlavoredMilk I find it odd this show models it’s main character on something as deep, dark, and brutally subversive as PMMM, Something Old Spice certainly is NOT.
@@saint_squared525 Short for Atsuko, yes.
I can easily imagine mages killing innocent people by putting them into doorless rooms that are like 50 levels deep. And nobody knows or thinks this is possible.
Otherwise known as the Sims players preferred way of killing
That just sounds like Fatal Labyrinth on the Sega Genesis.
@@ryancraig110 I prefer swimming pools as it is faster or maybe setting something on fire, but I too, immediately thought of the Sims upon seeing this comment
Could the reason Rose is trying to hide the real meaning of the photo is because she's trying to act tough and doesn't want anyone to actually know about her emotional vulnerability?
Regardless of intent, it's written like a plot twist, but it's a plot twist where the twist has no real meaning to the story.
A plot twist that you are going to get clubbed with for most of the season.
It’s not like it even matters anyway, we never see this picture or locket again, so this was all just a giant waste of time.
Yes, that would make sense if the show actually did anything with it and if the person Rosemary is trying to fool was not somebody who should know better.
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I agree! This would make more sense with someone like Thyme who thinks Rosemary's a crazy sword wielding maniac.
Having a moment where she realizes the true meaning behind her locket would show Rosemary has more depth to her character at the same time we the audience would've. This could've been more effective in my opinion.
@@nekonomicon2983 It's a running thing with this show: there are moments that almost work. It's like the people making it have seen TV shows in the past, but don't really understand how they work. Or, in other words, they are amateurs.
The thing that always annoys me about Slime Boy is that the voice actor for him was the main character in 'The Orbiting Human Circus' podcast and he's good there. It just shows that they didn't really give the actors direction
unrelated but he was also one of the main members of the band neutral milk hotel which is wild, his character in the show even plays the saw which he can play in real life
That or he bro didn’t have a good mic
@@realzomberNeutral Milk Hotel?? That’s the In The Aeroplane Over The Sea band right?
Yes@@erikdaniels0n
This is basically "Steven Universe" but it's the "Steven Universe we have back at home." You have Rosemary who's basically Steven without the pacifist attitude. Sage is Pearl without actual emotional baggage... and a personality. Parsley is Amethyst since they are both short... and that's it. And Thyme is Garnet, the actual "popular" one.
Back in 2018 when the HGS trailer came around, most people even thought that HGS was simply capitalizing on the success of Steven Universe, which was popular during that time. I believe that is true because of how a lot of "diverse" shows released during those times followed the formula SU had when it comes to writing progressive matters, and HGS seem to be the perfect example of a show "copying" SU.
@@GatlingPea32 ¿Are Steven Universe's clones a thing? I mean, cartoon shows trying to copy or imitate other shows are nothing new, when The Simpsons started to get popular there were a couple of attempts to make adult-oriented cartoons, there were also SpongeBob clones such as Coconut Fred and Adventure Time inspired many copycats that only copied superficial elements. In some aspects I think Steven Universe owes a little bit of its existence to Adventure Time, perhaps shows like Twelve Forever, the She-Ra reboot, The Owl House and Amphibia could be considered SU clones, though they also remind me of Gravity Falls
Here I was thinking that Barbarian fit Rosemary best, but Murderhobo works far better.
Only Samurai Jack figured out how to make travel montages consistently enjoyable and awe inspiring.
Thanks for reminding me to watch Samurai Jack
Here's how (in my view) the first episode could have been better:
- We start at Peeble with an younger Rose (around 6 or 7 years old) and her simple life, showing her relationships with her father, brother, Sage, the city folks and her mother. We will have the "Ordinary World" in the "Hero's Journey" Method and we get to know the importance of certain characters in Rose's life, we are also presented to Peeble in a better way.
- Since this show wants to draw attention to Rose's mom, we could see how her mom treats with Rose and how the whole guardian things work (maybe they can play a special board game that Rose's mother keeps over-exagerating the game to give it more emotion for her child, using her own adventures to add detail to the story [of course, she doesn't fully tell those stories due to a heavy presence of death and unless you want to have a little bloolust kid or someone without any empathy, you shouldn't tell a child gorey stuff])
-- We are presented in the show (by details given by Rose's mom) that Guardians are specialized soldiers that either work as knights for the villages or go on hunts to collect items for studies of medicine, monstorlogy ( monsters and their weakness), etc. - To resume it: Royal Knights/bounty hunters.
- We are shown the events that will scar Rose and motivate her, maybe it could be that when she was a kid, during a fair with her family, an invasion of monsters happens and she sees carnage and chaos happening around her and so, she gets lost in Peeble, running for her life, only to find her mother fighting part of the monster hoard. The two would have the mission to get Rose back to safety so she doesn't have to see more carnage, but it is hard as it is almost impossible finding a street without a monster. They ended up cornored and so, in a nearby tarvern, Lavander (i think that's Rose's mom's name) manages to find a safe spot in there and asks her child noit to leave it at any cost. with fear running in her veins, Rose obeys her and so, we are taken to her perspective, as we only hear loud screams of agony from random citizens , monsters roar and an almost unhearable sword slashing flesh. After everything calms down, Rose's dad finds her, as he hugs her, believing she was gone like most citizens from Peeble. We see the huge parts of the village destroyed, covered in human and monster blood. Rose finds Sage who was out of Peeble with her mother to buy some herbs for her mother's tea company, calming Rose down as she sees her best friend alive and well...only then to her to find a sword....Lavander's sword... Rose grabs it and she screams for her mother, only to get no response from her. Rose cries out her fear on the blade of the sword, while Sage tries to calm her friend, even if she doesn't know the full story. It is left clear nobody knows what happened to Lavander, if she has died or not.... (Her mystery would be treated in the same way like Milton's mystery from "What Remains of Edith Finch", where sure, it is important, but it isn't the main focus of the story, but it is necessary to explore this event when needed)
- In the more modern times, we see a 14 year old Rose putting flowers on her mother's old training room alongside a picture of Lavander hugging her daughter. We see Rose prepared for something and so, she is called by someone in the living room. It is Sage who is awaiting her friend to get ready so they can go to the "The Royal Services Academy" (sorry, couldn't think of a better name). Both want to go there different reasons - Sage wants to follow her own path, wanting to do more than serve tea alongside her mom, wanting to be a mage of epic proportions and also to become a sidekick for Rose, meanwhile Rose is motivated by her mother, wanting to become a protector of those who can't fight and only give that up when she dies.
- We would see the girls being like...how can i say.... Cuphead and Mugman - Rose would be an immature kid who thinks she knows what she is doing and ends up creating more problems or worsing them up, altought she has a good heart and would go out of her ways to protect the ones who she loves, while Sage would be the cowardly yet smart gal, the one who seems like the opposite to Rose, altough she also wants to protect the ones she loves. I think Cuphead and Mugman managed to master the idea of a duo that are different from each other in "The Cuphead Show" due to their personalities and how one bounces one of each other. In the case of Rose and Sage, they can have different views and different ways they react to other people (Maybe Sage could be more cunning and Rose doesn't really like to manipulate people or how Rose is whilling to sacrifice everything to the extreme just to avoid people from falling into the same fate her mother did)
- In my view, i think the best constrast is how their friendship, altough good, harms each other, but not really being toxic - Due to losing her mother, we would see Rose trying to avoid seeing herself as weak, but they will eventually will slip up from her control and Sage is trying to control her - the problem is that it creates on Sage a sense of opposite dependence, where she thinks she needs to always help Rose, but in reality, it makes Rose get no true freedom from Sage, there for, it causes a bigger problem, as Rose thinks it is Sage who needs help and so, she acts even more ruthless and cause more of her loss of her mother to apper, almost creating a never ending cycle.
When it comes to the plot, i think the episode should be the girls interacting with their new interactions, as the episode would focus more on that than they reaching the town itself. They could see how new magic is used (like using energy inside a piece of coal itself to create fire to cook a steak), what are they going to experience and even the dangers of the town (such as robbers).
sorry for the long text people... i just wanted to share my view on this episode
I would watch your version of the show in a heartbeat.
Nice! Would you do the same comment once Enter tackles the next episodes?
This is so good! I geniunely want to see this.
"unless you want to have an Eric Cartman, you shouldn't tell a child gorey stuff]" That isn't why Eric is a jerk in cannon. In cannon, he is a jerk because his mom spoils him. So since when does seeing gory stuff make children sadistic in the real world?
@@Sewblon I was in the meaning of becoming someone distant with the things of sensiblity to someone getting hurt, to the point that if for too long,someone loses their senses of fear or empathy for someone, like shock fatigue,where something happens so often,you lose that sense. I picked Cartman because if you killed someone's family,forced fed their family to that person and managed to make his favorite band call him a crybaby all because of some cash,it isn't really far fetched to believe you quite lost to the sentiment of empathy to the point cooking people isn't a big deal for you.
But now that you mentioned... you're right. Since i did commit that mistake and grammar errors too,i am going to edit this. Thanks for helping me realize my mistake, have a good evening.
I'm so happy you're talking about this. I feel bad because the concept has the potential to be entertaining (look at Little Witch Academia, Winx Club, or Harry Potter), but it's clear they didn't know what they were doing.
Nope they were just too interested in being "progressive" and being LGBT+ bait...
I think that Raye and the rest of the staff wanted to make a fantasy show inspired in part by the anime that Raye used to watch when he was young, like Magic Knight Rayearth, people say that the HGS copied most of its ideas from Little Witch Academia, but in Raye's defense he pitched HGS to some networks back in 2013 when LWA just premiered its first OVA, so the similarities are just coincidental, besides, the concept of a magic academy is pretty old
The main issue is that the show's staff didn't make a good job at creating an interesting premise, with likeable characters, it feels like the series just tries to checks boxes of the most popular clichés from popular cartoon and anime, making direct references to popular series and imitating superficial aspects from better written shows like Steven Universe
@@pablocasas5906Steven Universe is only better written because HGS set such an incredibly low bar even something with the slightest iota of more effort will surpass it.
Looping back around, the "magical adventure school" idea has been around for so long and visited by so many creators that there's not really a whole lot new to add to the mix.
Little witch academia is dog shit
Thinking of when Shrek and Donkey asked “Are we there yet.”
And Donkey was making a popping sound with his mouth.
That was one of the few instances where dragging out the joke worked in its favor-because it annoyed Shrek to the point him stating it. Not to mention, it was Far Far Away.
This show feels like a forced western version of Little Witch Academia or Madoka Magica, but without the elements that made the two japanese series interesting to follow.
I'm going to give Raye Rodríguez and his team some slack, I don't think HGS is a LWA rip-off, since technically Raye pitched the idea of HGS to some networks in 2013, the same year the first LWA OVA premiered. Though Rosemary's earlier designs looked very similar to Madoka Kaname
In some interviews Raye said he used to watch anime like Magic Knight Rayearth when he was younger, I think I can see some similarities between Rosemary and Hikaru. Still, the show fails very horribly at trying to imitate anime shows, that's something that I think very few Western animators can't seem to get right
Knuckles, "No. It's now illegal to use your meme."
Interesting point too on that worldbuilding point about accessibility; one of my favourite parts of Zootopia was actually the attention to this. They built a society with a ton of vastly different species all held to a roughly equal social status (with rhe inequality intentionally highlighted as a plot point) by taking on things like these size differences headfirst. Multiple public transport options are seen, doorways tend to be very big to accomodate just about everyone, entire biomes ideal to certain species are built around their comfort. Times where for example, Judy is too short for something, is intentional to communicate a societal issue of stereotyping, like all the police training desks being built for the assumedly big and strong species and nearly unusable by her as a rabbit. And one thing I hope to see more with fictional societies with bigger physical differences in their members, is more acknowledgment of disabikity and drawing from exactly what various disabled communities have said is a needed accomodation to allow them equality. The real world literally has people who need different infrastructure to what we see commonly irl to access public areas better, draw from it! Even little acknowledgements of differences I see irl like signs warning tall people to mind their heads would be a welcome addition in a building built for a fantasy dwarf, or visible step stools available for shorter people in spaces designed for giants, even imperfect accomodations like this make for better worldbuilding. It helps a world feel as real as remembering to design an animated house to have windows because real houses have windows.
And not to go on too long, but im personally really interested in seeing what fantasy worlds define their idea of disability as too! An example of media I've consumed that seems to establish this in universe (but unfortunately doesn't explore it much) is My Hero Academia. The lead character is a regular kid, but by his universe's 80% superpowered society, has a disability that about 1 in 5 people have, that does impact his quality of life, especially for his career prospects. Idk I just want to see more of it.
That is an interesting example of world-building.
Cars 1 has a similar idea, although much more fictional, obviously.
Since the characters are, well, cars, the world is built to be usable by cars. Buttons to activate things are placed on the ground, tools are gripped onto the cars, whell lockers are used as a stand-in for handcuffs, the characters drink OIL which is fitting because most vehicles in the real world use oil (outside of electric ones, obviously).
Another fictional example would be My Little Pony, which also has to have it's world be adapted to be usable by 4 legged animals who obviously lack hands.
@@ag2023en Cars unfortunatly has it's kind of weak foundation destroyed by Cars 2 sadly ... like literally the Pope is cannon in the movie lol
Unironically, sheeps managed to turn the predators in their savages states.
Well not all predator, i think that the mom of Judy had a brother that bite her.
And so the destruction begins...
Also they didn't put that content warning on kill la kill. An actual adult anime
Bruh
Or Chainsaw Man
Even in the scenes where we get the out of place blood and swearing in this rather tame show, it’s nothing compare to other actual adult anime’s.
Probably because any competent studio these days knows the ratings system does the job just fine.
Or Konosuba
Correction. Rosemary is not a space alien, she is a consumption demon. Which is why she eats sleep. This is totally logical and should not be questioned.
some parodies put her as being a demon or possessed, probably because she is definitely not human
some say she can even eat colors and the concept of letters (only in parodies for the people who dont get this reference)
That parody did a better job at pacing the plot and developing the conflict between the characters than the actual show did.
It would have made more sense if Rosemary herself didn't know that the picture inside had her whole family in it when her father gave the locket to her...only to make the discovery after the locket breaks. Then bam, you would have had your emotional moment that she and Sage could have shared together.
Tales of Herbs, Cheesecake, and Potatoes …… because potatoes
Monty Python, directed by Jonathan "TheMysteriousMrEnter" Rozanski
I had high hopes this would be another whimsical fantasy story similar to The Owl House. It couldn't be further from its quality...
Trust me, the second the trailer came out in 2017, we all had our hopes low due to the trailer talking more about how “diverse” the crew is instead of the show
@@BlueBlazeKingthey had nothing of value to say about the show, because the show is a substantial amount of nothing, and isn't worth hype.
@@BlueBlazeKing In my defense, I never heard of this show until it came out, so I never watched the trailers. I just saw some screenshots and thought "hey, this looks kinda nice". Then I dug deeper changed my mind to phrases such as "Oh no" and "Oh god no".
To any viewers who have not seen this show (please don't, first off), then kindly understand that Enter's just getting warmed up. Shit is gonna get REAL bad later.
I'm here for the shitshow
Wait, you're actually reviewing every episode? Oh my gosh, good luck.
It feels like Crunchyroll took what was the first draft and was like, "nah it doesn't need changes"
It's concerning that Rosemary is considered to be a murder hobo over Amaryllis.
At least Amaryllis is actually fun to watch and has a better friend then Sage.
Both the lines about the cheesecake and the locket being a cheap necklace could have been solved with characterization.
If Rosemary was doing everything she could to hide vulnerability or sadness, even to the point of her best friend not knowing the extent, those lines could have retroactively worked.
Oh, it's not because it's a picture of my family, it's because I just love cheesecake. It's just a cheap necklace because it's the picture that matters. I say weird things because I'm both naturally upbeat but also hiding something more beneath the surface.
Cliches don't necessarily mean bad writing, it's the implementation that matters. Being a happy person doesn't have to be a front. It could be natural, but even happy people have baggage, and might be inclined to suppress it for the benefit of others and to the detriment of themselves, the degree of which is determined by their personality. It's a believable and relatable struggle. Beyond that, she might not be wise enough to even realize that part of herself, allowing for character growth.
Full disclosure, I haven't watched the show, myself, so maybe they do attempt that kind of thing later, but even if they do, I don't have high hopes for the execution.
I saw a couple scenes of the show in small doses on UA-cam, so I may as well say that HGS is like if Steven Universe, My Little Witch Academia, and RWBY were put into a blender, but they forgot to put the blade underneath (you could see this as forgetting to draft or some other thing) and the stuff just gets all over inside the compartment making a mess.
I already know I'm going to love this.
Wow, this show must REALLY hate doors for some reason!
HGS must have seen asdfmovie6 and was scared by the door joke
I thought it was just an inconvenience for the contractors and mages who haven't learned to make portals.
Might be the same reason why many NES games used sprite overlapping and basic colored rectangles-too hard to animate.
I am glad this show exists to motivate me to finish my series because I know it's better than HGS it makes me continue working
If this show can be green lighted, anything can be green lighted.
Same here, I'm an aspiring artist, writer, and voice actor, I could try making something, although making it better than this isn't exactly a high bar, so I might do fine
Yaaay! More content about shredding HGS to itty bitty molecular pieces! XD
These are always delightful.
this is like if harry potter started with harry and the weaslys arriving at the train station getting ready to board hogwarts express.
and they just had harry and ron talk about how living with the dursleys sucked, and diagon alley was quirky. and hermione walked by, acted snooty, and left with no introduction to our main characters.
Harry Potter started so well, the 2nd is even better.
Arthur asked to Harry questions about what the muggles do, and how amazed he was about things that we found to be common.
It says a lot when RWBY's first episode did everything this show tried and failed to do, only better.
I'll give RWBY Volume 1 this much, I at least know what a Hunter is, what the school is for, and what Grimm are so that puts it above HGS by a country mile.
Oh boy I was looking forward to this. It's fun to pick apart a bad piece of art because that's the time you truly see the mechanics of it. A well crafted story doesn't have you thinking about the fact that it all just a story and what goes into crafting it, it just draws you into the experience.
Saw episode one and was board to tears.
Rosemary is a sociopath no one would swing a sword that dangerously, if she did that to me I'd take her sword away.
I honestly can’t wait for your reaction to Amaryllis, the best character in the show, simply because she’s the only character with depth
And Snapdragon too.
Amaryllis is unironically the best character.
She didn't started in a good light, but the character developped and even stood up for Snapdragon.
They even played a VR game together.
Strap in boys. We’ve got another one of these
Fun fact, Sage's design is almost a lawsuit level similar to Tuuli from the Ascendance of a bookworm anime.
Have you’ve seen Olive, she’s practically a reskin from Tokyo Mew Mew
She looks like a lot of characters, but she somehow fails at looking unique in spite of that.
Like loveart23 says, these characters doesn’t have their own personal style of their own. Their 😓
I just started amateur fantasy writing and I really hope I don't make these mistakes.
Re-draft your scripts and you wont. Listen to criticisms and you won't. Don't include politics or social commentary and you won't. Actually care about your work and you won't.
Don't listen to that other person. You can add in social commentary if you want!
Social commentary is acceptable as long as you put thought into it
I feel like this episode should have focused more on their life before they went to the Acadamy, their friends, their families, their daily routines, etc. Just so we could get a feel for what they had.
This.Exactly this. We never see Pebble at all or the parents again after the first episode.
Yeah, it would help make their departure from Pebble have more impact to leave their place if comfort.
@@nekonomicon2983 yes, this, we don't really get a scope of what these two lost as we never know what exactly pebble as a town is, if this was the place we started out with and got comfortable with in the first episode, maybe even the first two episodes, leaving pebble would certainly have more impact.
Kinda like Ni no kuni?
Yeah the fact Rose has a brother just feels weird as she never mentions him or does he have any actual lines that show a personality. He’s just there
I thought that reason why Rosemary hide it being about her mom is because it hints to Sage's obsessive/nastey behavior. She doesn't fully trust her with everything in her on a subconcious level. It may also make more sense for it to be tied to the promotional food thats tied to Rosemary and Lavander. It may be a picture of the Boysin Barry cheese cake but have the recipie of her mom wrote on the back- maybe even the recipie of the cheesecake showing her ties to food and her parents without being overtly stupid?
Great theory but that should be hinted in the show
@@CoCoNOFox given how nasty Sage becomes later, I think that was our warning lol. But yeah. The show really sucks at at giving hints and all that.
After you finish this series, I'm going to watch it all again and make a "You just made your DnD campaign/characters into a show, didn't you?" counter.
I think it would have been cute if since the girls were poor their parents initially try to get them tickets for the train which would have taken them directly to the academy without any stops & is the main mode of transportation for most of the students. Aside from Snapdragon and Amyelia's who could have a carriage they arrive in instead due to being upper-class & the carriages would cost more to ride. It could be rosemary's suggestion that Sage and Her use sage's broom to fly to the school. Sage being the more cautious one would be hesitant to agree with her idea due to 1. not being a very skilled flyer & the 2. the broom being older and belonging to both her mother & grandmother previously. Rosemary could then ask Sage how they should get to school, if they can't board the train & they can't use her broom. Then you could have a short montage ( about a minute maybe less ) of the girls sneaking onto different modes of transportation to get to the school. Then you could have a small joke about the girls looking messy by the time they arrive at the school.
This show looke like a mix of Steven universe & and sailor moon. Those two things should've made it work but they screwed it up
That mix would be really cool, honestly.
That would be an improvement
@VenThatVillain0001 it's already been made. It's called Ojamajo Doremi.
So you know all the people who claim to be the next Critical role and fail miserably? This is like that but with Vox Machina
This feels like they were writing a script for a very cheap generic JRPG, but had no idea how game development worked so they just made it a show instead. Or they were just writing down everything that happened in a D&D campaign, and they really suck at D&D.
Would have been a LOT funnier if this show had the audience ASSUME the locket had something important, and one BRIEF chase scene later, she got the locket back and THEN revealed it contains a picture of cake. HA! And then, later, she reveals the locket ACTUALLY contained a photograph of someone important to her she doesn't want the world to know is important to her, like a Dark Lord Of Evil who used to be her mother/aunt/whatever and hadn't gone bad yet.
"This episode tells us nothing"? It tells us this show is going to be bad.
why couldn't they just make rose say "it's a very important picture" and be very vague about it, then the reveal of the family picture and the reason why she didn't say what it was is because she didn't wanna seem "childish" by missing her parents or something like that. didn't watch the show so its not a petfect fix but at least itll make some sense.
People say RWBY has gone downhill hard but you know what? I’ll take that show at its worst over this show at its best ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Agreed! Despite the many flaws RWBY has, at least effort was put into the series. HSG doesn't even try it's bad from the beginning,middle and end. I'll give the later seasons of Rwby credit for trying but HGS absolutely not!
They could of built up what was in the locket throughout the episode only to have the cheesecake be the payoff and then reveal the full photo like SpongeBob did in the Secret Box episode. 😤
Still would have been a throwaway episode.
damn mr enter ghosted me on twitter lol
Mr enter and night butterfly collab 😮😮😮
@theMysteriousmrenter MAKE THAT HAPPEN BRO 😂
I've never heard of the night butterfly but damn now I'm a fan
thanks man :)@@eddgould3175
*Is sleep a food? As much as this show is good.*
Are drum a weapons 🤔
Well, at least this show is _warm._
We can burn it to survive winter.
If they wanted to make a proper joke she could’ve just said to get the locket back because it’s irreplaceable and then Sage would only see the cheesecake when they got it back and have the full photo reveal afterward
Every clip sounds like a first draft script that was supposed to be rewritten
If we're gonna be nitpicky with this first video... I HATE Rosemary's hairstyle. It's so ludicrous and impractical. She must use an ozone hole producing amount of hairspray just to get it to stand that way. What would've been the problem with two hair buns? or just her long hair loose? HECK, you could make the argument she was imitating her disappeared mother that way, as a small tribute to her. All of this show SCREAMS "First draft"
Thanks for taking the time dissecting why this is one of the worst things to come out of crunchyroll.
ONE OF?
@@MarioPlushKid scratch that. The most
@mrstraightman2806 I was gonna say lmao
It makes me think I could do a better cartoon myself, int terms of writing at least. I have experience in hand drawn animation and unimpressive and riddled with errors as this is, would be a LOT of work for one person.
Definitely the most entertaining thing that has happened to me all day long.
The thing is. The characters being named after herbs even though the title is High Guardian Spice could have made a funny joke in the show. Had any of the characters (or writers) been self aware enough to point it out. Such a waste!
Using Morrowind music as background when discussing worldbuilding through overcomplicated transportation was a nice touch.
This show has a lot of elements for the sake of having them.
"The outside world is big" is a classic trope, which is why it's in the show, but that's it. The writers pasted it in without any set up. Same with the fantastic traveling vehicles. Pasted in because other franchise did it.
Here is a game for you all.
Make a check list of all tropes and elements you recognized from shows/books/movies and think about how much nothing it doesn't in High Guardian, how it's just a pasted in trope.
This show is just tropes without any substance
HGS reminds me of the How to draw books but for D&D characters.😂
The thing is that a big fantasy world is easy to make work. Especially in the anime style. Take Kuma Kuma Kuma bear, the big world is implied but not stated until needed. And it's an isekai, so this is how it's used. The main character who is isekaid into this world, from our world. They expect everything to be like a western fantasy since that's what they were introduced to. Then they travel, realizing how big this world is. They travel outside of the kingdom they're in, because they are from Japan, and want to be around a more Japanese leaning culture, from homesickness. Not only do they learn this exists in this world, but they also proceed to travel there, and spend time there. It makes sense.
Gotta thank ya for the Recettear music in the background, goated ass and very underrated game
I have mentally re-written this episode (and many others) in my head under the new title of "The Tales of Culinarie" (like in culinary arts aka cooking).
*The premise is that in the Kingdom of Culinarie, a black plague substance known as "The Rot" has been spreading all across the land & seas.
Rotting, corrupting, & killing everything in its path cause many to get sick, starve, or even die for the lack of fresh food.
So the survivors quickly form a boot camp campaign to train people into becoming cheknights (chefs+knights) that use cooking utensils & fresh ingredients to fight of The Rot before it spreads any further or get worse.
The four main characters are Paprika/Rika (replacement for Rosemary), Mint (replacement for Sage), Cinnamon (replacement for Parsley), and Ginger (replacement for Thyme).
Rika is an optimistic good-getter sousercess (sous chef + sorceress) who joins the Cheknights to protect her family's bakery from having to going out of business (and from having to use AI aka artificial ingredients) & find her lost brother, Fennel, who disappeared years ago trying to fight The Rot. Her weapon of choice a magic spoon wand.
Mint is Rika's long-time friend & neighbor, who becomes a cleeviteer (cleever knife + muskateer), despite being all mousey & uncertain of herself, she's actually very handy with her weapons of choice: Knife swords.
Cinnamon is the only boy of the main four, but he treats his female friends with respect & is willing to fight beside them. He's also a wild hobbit hybrid with keen senses of smell & sound, making him a great tracker & navigator. His weapons of choice are skewer javelins.
Ginger is an elf with a bipolar image. By that I mean that she may look all skinny & weak, but she's actually the physically strongest of the lead characters, yet still have a sweet demeanor. Her weapon of choice is a meat tenderizering war hammer.
The actual spice related names and the more food related themes in the revision as opposed to the generic medieval fantasy setting made this a lot more bearable.
@@GravityFaiz Thank you.
I also changed the school setting to a more boot/military camp with a mix of cooking lessons. Kind of like the Fry Cook Games from "Spongebob Squarepants" or any of the food themed martial arts from "Ranma 1/2."
And instead of naming the characters after herbs & flowers (that quite frankly don't suit any of the characters' designs) each set of characters follows a theme.
*The core characters are named after spices.
*The military authorities (replacing the teachers/professors/principal/headmaster) are named after teas. Like Earl Gray, Boba, Chai, Ginseng, and Herbal.
*Any wild life and/or plants the characters come across are named after the animals/plants combined with foods they are mixed with (kind of like the Foodimals from "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2" ).
Lastly, instead of the mother character that has gone missing & later turns out to be a traitor working for the enemy; it's main character's brother that was said to have disappeared years ago, and he actually helps his sister & friends in the shadows along the journey/mission to destroy The Rot.
I love everything about your rewrite. The characters are named after spices not herbs. Plus the Rot is actually plot relevant. Great job.👍
We need to go back to the early 2010s era of animation and try a different fork in the road. Don't sacrifice good writing, but for plonk's sake, we need to explore some more aesthetically attractive art styles. No more Tumblr nose, no bean mouth, no calarts spaghetti arms, and especially no more beards-for-everybody. Bring sexy back, for crying out loud.
I returned to the old Fleischer cartoons personally.
Old cartoons are just better than this Tumblr-era.
HGS takes "show and don't tell" to the extreme.
Fun fact: the intro to this show is so generic that you can put almost any music over it and it will work.
Wow I saw people tearing this show apart and never really jumped into the rabbit hole of it but guess I'm here now.
7:29 You know it's bad when a show like "Disenchantment" (which doesn't take itself too seriously) has way better world-building.
After watching this I came to a simple conclusion for any person that wants to start a career as a writer, do the exact opposite this series did.
It definitely works as a "How not to" example.
Or just do exactly what this show did, but as soon as something stupid or cringe pops up, you just y'know actually fix it and redraft.
Every review I watch about this showm, someone always points out something new.
I still consider HGS to be the biggest example of missed potential. If the scripts and plot went through a few revisions and the voice actors had better direction, I don't think it'd be a masterpiece, but I do think it would ultimately be a servicable show starring cute witches named after herbs. As it stands, we have a show where even the most minor of problems with the writing snowball into something bigger thanks to the literal first draft-tier writing.
I think the best it could have reached was "entirely forgettable, but it kept the lights on for the studio"
If Raye wasn't that lazy and didn't hired a terrible writer, and blame that faillure of the show to be the budget's fault..
@@YourFeelingsSucks agree. He should’ve prevent that from happening. But he didn’t. That was his fault.
@@Muna-Jlore0997 absolutely.
Plus he worked on the show since 2013, he had time to pull a good show..
I wish High Guardian Spice was better I feel there a real good show hidden in there but things went wrong internally making a mess this show could of connected with many people like me.
I think a lot of people feel that way with all the character redesigns and rewrites.
With.........admittedly HEAVILY altered writing and even character designs it could indeed be salvaged.
The ending theme song reeks of desperation
Also, the disclaimer is appreciated and yet I think you say what needs to be said,even if others consider it "nitpicking"
This show feels like it was some game made by a 12 year old donking around with the stock assets in RPG Maker vx ace.
More like Low Guardian Bland
I would have much preferred a series where the entire premise was Rosemary and Sage auditioning for the academy and needed a certain length of time in the real world doing quests for guilds and learning just what an undertaking being a guardian is all about.
There, I just fixed the series immediately.
Hmm...a show about magical people named after actual spices? I'll just watch Snow Fairy Sugar.
They didn't even keep Chompy around. Even RWBY knew to not introduce a pet character until a bit later at least... alluded to Zwei in more than his introduction...
9:02
"You girls want any food?"
"Better make it quick or I might eat my pillow."
"That's family, Even if you can't see them, they're always there for you"
Cheesy? Yes
Better than randomly keeping the picture of your family out of sight in your locket? Absolutely
I never expected to get such a nostalgia bomb from this of all things.
The background music from the early Harry Potter games made me want to replay them for the thousandth time.
Those games were some of the first games I've played.
Also, Baldur’s Gate and Morrowind.
This is what happens when you have a group of twitter weirdos that have an obsession with Steven Universe and magical girl school anime, and want to make their own.
The alpha art design that was leaked sometime ago. It was done before Steven Universe even aired.
They were clearly very bad knock off drawings of Madoka Magica girls. Which is painfully obvious it was the basis for Rosemary.
Comic strips were released. Sane quality with zero improvements.
This show only exist to fill in diversity quotas the western industry is so obsessed with. Without any rythme of reason.
The creator even spent years trying to get his creation green lit by a studio. Every single one rejected it. Chruchyroll green lit it and allowed it to happen for political reasons and it's a god awful company.
High Guardian Spice is one of my guilty pleasure cartoons actually.........
It Told me what to do to make things better and how we can achieve on.
Please do an Admirable Animation for "The Owl House".
I commend you for paying attention to every detail.
0:44 I know this is gonna sound hyperbolic but HGSs ending theme is SO gereric and shallow it doesn’t feel right.
I woukd have established going on a magic broom rather than a magic plane train as like going on a car or bus instead of flying when you got accepted into Harverd.
Real talk, could this show have worked if it wasn't trying to be bad Rwby? Or rather Worse Rwby?
I don't know what could have saved this because it's not clear exactly where and how everything failed. Give an inept writer infinite time and infinite money and they might make a masterpiece eventually or they might remain inept.
This is basically a "if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bike, scenario. I believe that in order for the show to be good it would have to be changed so significantly that it would be unrecognizable.
Just gonna watch this instead of the show