Thanks Ivan for an excellent & fair review of an affordable alternative. This would make an excellent addition for those collectors who have a sub-collection of decent homage models of very expensive & famous classics like the Daytona. Many of today's homages have decent movements & build quality & should last for years.
Thanks for the great review Ivan. I’ll definitely be adding them to my collection, still trying to decide between the two. I’ve already got two PD watches, one PD watch is the homage of the Omega Moon Watch, the second one is the homage of the Omega Seamaster. I’m waiting for my third PD watch, the homage to the Omega Bond 007 watch. PD watches are really great & really good value for money.
Have one of these for a couple of years, amazing value. Saw one description that listed the bezel as "ceramic coated" but, who knows. Probably PVD as you said.
I have these two watches in original black rubber straps instead of unreliable Pagani bracelets. My experience with Pagani bracelets they fell to pieces as soon as open the boxes hence, I always go rubber straps. The best oysters bracelets from my watch collection are invicta and Accurist.
Excellent review. My first invicta was the white face with gold trim some 15 year to date and it still works. That said, the crystal is scratched as bad as it gets. I LOVE the blue one! BEAUTIFUL but the white face is a very close second! Very close. My recommendation is, buy both or you'll go 🤪 at this price? Start a collection!
Just yesterday, My father was holding a cigarette out the window of his car when the bracelet on his PD Daytona fell apart. He stopped the car and had to walk through traffic to pick it back up. The case had virtually no damage, as it fell right on the crown, which presented a few surface level scuffs. It was a birthday gift from me to him, and I'm so happy it survived almost totally unscathed. Keep in mind that Pagani Design bracelets are poorly put together, and you're only really paying for the head of the piece.
Wow what drama! Thanks for sharing that. I’m curious if you know which part of the bracelet failed - was it one of the spring bars? (Either in the end links or the clasp)
The bracelets on Pagani design watches are a let down I have two of their watches and replaced them with premium rubber straps £10 and keep the original links as spares.
Because a 24-hour subdial is really easy to engineer, I understand why manufacturers of mechanical chronographs use it to add a cheap third dial. It gives the look of an hours totaliser, and it's easier to implement. What I don't get is why someone engineering a quartz chronograph would make the third subdial a 24-hour complication instead of an hours totaliser.
@@PerthWAtch Yes, the VK67 AND VK67A have a small seconds, a 60 minute tote and a 12 hour tote. It seems ideal, if you are actually interested in having the chronograph function as a chronograph. The subdial configuration is not, however, ideal if your aim is looking like a Daytona.
Great review as usual. I have the white dial version and really like it for $63 shipped. I think for many people having quality homages of cool looking watches makes sense. No need to baby the thing; no problem if you lose it; almost no chance of bumping up against anyone in my circles that have even heard of most of the expensive originals, etc. for a lawyer or celebrity it would be quite different i suppose. Works for lowly scientists and state employees in rural Virginia USA😎. Cheers good sir!!
Whoa Ivan, what more surprises does Pagani Design have installed for us? A Paygona! The side profile resembles the Milgauss with Black Bay thickness. Nice review Ivan, thanks!
You can't buy only one. I have four PD1664 on rubber and a couple of PD1644 on bracelet. Other than micro adjust being impossible to adjust I like all of them. Nice comparison.
I own a couple of the 1644's (silver and blue, black dial with gold subdials and case) and think they offer incredible value. They also do a green one which looks looks pretty cool. The bracelet on the silver/blue one is acceptable, while the thick rubber strap on the other one is very comfortable. The PD1687 could have been so much better. I actually quite like the large numbers on the dial, but as already been pointed out the numerals at the base of the watch are upside down, this is just plain WEIRD. The '0' in chronograph is also a bit of a 'typ0'. A real shame PD doesn't get someone with a better understanding of appropriate dial layout to check these watches out BEFORE they make them. An opportunity missed here to give us something a little different without obvious errors on the dial.
You are ABSOLUTELY right about this watch. This is the best Pagani watch among all of their watch line ups. Actually, I have bought about 3 of them, not for myself, but as gifts for my friends. They look amazing and I can totally trust the movement. If there are some gripes about this watch, I can say.... I would prefer brushed bracelet (too many scratches on the current mid links) and also "easier" size adjustment for the clasp. I think there are 3 tiny adjustments inside of the clasp, but that was a pain in the butt to get them working.... (Rolex style, Glide lock would have been the killer, but probably they wouldn't get it right anyway.... ha ha) PS: it must be winter in Perth (of course). Here in L.A. it is hotter than hell.... I can't wait for October to come, ha ha Have a great day, Ivan.
Hi Alex! Wow I didn’t realise you consider this the best of their lineup - I guess I terms of complexity of assembling a chronograph with all the little hands plus the pushers here it is indeed their hardest to execute! You’re right about the clasp adjust, it’s a dog to work with! I predict that just as they are now close to nailing this bracelet, they will eventually have a working glide lock clasp on many of their bracelets. PS. Yes indeed still winter here but now coming to the end, ready to welcome spring :)
I have one of the white ones, and it is an excellent watch with one drawback- it's bloody difficult to tell how many minutes are on the chrono scale at 9:00! Minute grey text on a black surround does not make for great visibility. This would be a much better design if this dial went to 30 minutes rather than 60.
Hey Ivan thanks for the video...hope you are safe in Perth. Regarding Pagani, I have two green hulk and Tudor like models. Both have had bracelets that have lost screws and the watch has fallen off my wrist. They now just sit in my watch box, pretty to look at, but that's all, as I am concerned they will fall off--again--and become more damaged than they already are. I have spoken to a couple of my watch friends and they have also experienced failed screws in the bracelets and had their watch fall off. Don't know if the watch community has any pull but frankly until they fix their bracelet situation I am not going to buy another one. Cheers.
In my opinion push pins are much better.I have one watch with a dodgy screw held in with Loctite, seems to be holding ok. Replacement screws are available but if shouldn't come to that.
I’ve heard of the issue of screws coming loose (and not just in Pagani) but that’s not happened in my own experience of quite a lot of watches. I guess it might be a matter of taking care to screw it in with just the right amount of tightness…?
Your detailed review made me finally pull the trigger with your link. I've wanted a mecha quartz Unlikely to ever be cheaper than now. The bracelet made this a better value. It's a nuisance setting an auto everytime I use it. So it'll be floating over on a boat to Canada next month. Stay well.
I have a lot of conflicting opinions on a homages/micro brands. There certainty are some very nice high quality micro brand pieces available, unfortunately they don’t hold their value. I made the mistake of filling my watch box with homages and micro brands but my advice to everybody is to patiently save for whatever iconic watch you desire because you’ll never completely be happy if you continue down the path of homages especially…
There’s only one brand which consistently holds value - Rolex. And perhaps also Patek but that’s beyond most of us. Investment value should not be the reason to get watches IMO. And not everyone is in a position to save for higher end Swiss pieces, but homage is within reach.
I'm enjoying the white one which I picked up for $68. As expected for the price it isn't perfect but it keeps good time. I don't find the dark one attractive.
Another great review! Would you consider to review new PD-1689 model from Pagani? Homage to Rolex Cellini. Seiko VH65 meca-quartz movement. Sapphire. 200WR. ~$60
I've lost all interest in Chinese copies! At first, they were interesting but I just cannot buy watches without any original design or history. I guess my tastes have evolved. Cheers
For those people and myself included I love the Rolex Daytona style. I could never afford the real Rolex let alone the wait time if I could. So these are great ways to get the itch scratched. I attended a local watch meet and held the real Rolex Daytona and I had my PD Daytona, the organiser took a side by side photo. I must say I am very pleased with the PD as it definitely gives the look of the real Rolex and is extremely comfortable to wear.
It is a clumsy case, I also have it, clumsy model, the lume is a joke, and the stopwatch is also a joke, you can turn it on and off, nothing more, no time in between, so a stupid watch.
It’s a great case, elegant model, very smart watch. A stopwatch needs to be able to start, stop and reset - which is what this does. I don’t know what you mean by “time in between” - please try to write that in normal English. Cheers!
Thanks Ivan for an excellent & fair review of an affordable alternative. This would make an excellent addition for those collectors who have a sub-collection of decent homage models of very expensive & famous classics like the Daytona. Many of today's homages have decent movements & build quality & should last for years.
Most welcome - I agree with those good points you make!
Thanks for the great review Ivan. I’ll definitely be adding them to my collection, still trying to decide between the two. I’ve already got two PD watches, one PD watch is the homage of the Omega Moon Watch, the second one is the homage of the Omega Seamaster. I’m waiting for my third PD watch, the homage to the Omega Bond 007 watch. PD watches are really great & really good value for money.
Most welcome mate! Yeah I would like to review that Moonwatch homage…. Maybe it’s time to reach out to Pagani for it! :)
I think this is a brilliant watch for the price 👍 thanks Ivan good review
Very welcome! I agree! :)
Have one of these for a couple of years, amazing value. Saw one description that listed the bezel as "ceramic coated" but, who knows. Probably PVD as you said.
Thanks for sharing that!
Great quality. I've had my 1644 for two months. The bracelet is really nice on these. Better than expected. $63 U.S. shipped. Good video.
Great! Thanks :)
update on your pagani?
@@ainiizyan5668 - No issues after 1 year. I wear it regularly. Fantastic watch. Seiko meca-quartz movement !!
@@scdevon thanks.
I have these two watches in original black rubber straps instead of unreliable Pagani bracelets. My experience with Pagani bracelets they fell to pieces as soon as open the boxes hence, I always go rubber straps. The best oysters bracelets from my watch collection are invicta and Accurist.
Their bracelets have improved over time and I have *never* had one fall apart. Maybe yours was a knockoff? 😂
Excellent review. My first invicta was the white face with gold trim some 15 year to date and it still works. That said, the crystal is scratched as bad as it gets. I LOVE the blue one! BEAUTIFUL but the white face is a very close second! Very close. My recommendation is, buy both or you'll go 🤪 at this price? Start a collection!
Yes indeed, why not just buy it all! :)
Ivan I’ve actually got 3 of these! A white dial as you showed, a black dial & a white/rose gold dial. Terrific value with great Seiko movement! 😎👍🏼
Nice - do you rotate thru all 3 of them?
@@PerthWAtch Yep they all get a go! Admittedly the white/rose gold gets the dress up attire, not that covid helps that!🤣
Just yesterday, My father was holding a cigarette out the window of his car when the bracelet on his PD Daytona fell apart. He stopped the car and had to walk through traffic to pick it back up. The case had virtually no damage, as it fell right on the crown, which presented a few surface level scuffs. It was a birthday gift from me to him, and I'm so happy it survived almost totally unscathed. Keep in mind that Pagani Design bracelets are poorly put together, and you're only really paying for the head of the piece.
Wow what drama! Thanks for sharing that. I’m curious if you know which part of the bracelet failed - was it one of the spring bars? (Either in the end links or the clasp)
The bracelets on Pagani design watches are a let down I have two of their watches and replaced them with premium rubber straps £10 and keep the original links as spares.
I have the white dial version and probably one of the best watches for price I own great review 🙏
Yeah it’s hard to beat on sheer value isn’t it?
Because a 24-hour subdial is really easy to engineer, I understand why manufacturers of mechanical chronographs use it to add a cheap third dial. It gives the look of an hours totaliser, and it's easier to implement. What I don't get is why someone engineering a quartz chronograph would make the third subdial a 24-hour complication instead of an hours totaliser.
That’s a good point! I think Seiko has a variation of this movement series where it is indeed an hour totaliser.
@@PerthWAtch Yes, the VK67 AND VK67A have a small seconds, a 60 minute tote and a 12 hour tote. It seems ideal, if you are actually interested in having the chronograph function as a chronograph. The subdial configuration is not, however, ideal if your aim is looking like a Daytona.
Great review as usual. I have the white dial version and really like it for $63 shipped. I think for many people having quality homages of cool looking watches makes sense. No need to baby the thing; no problem if you lose it; almost no chance of bumping up against anyone in my circles that have even heard of most of the expensive originals, etc. for a lawyer or celebrity it would be quite different i suppose. Works for lowly scientists and state employees in rural Virginia USA😎. Cheers good sir!!
Thanks for that and for the comments :)
where did you find it for that price??
@@christianquiroga7350 ebay, from china
Whoa Ivan, what more surprises does Pagani Design have installed for us? A Paygona!
The side profile resembles the Milgauss with Black Bay thickness.
Nice review Ivan, thanks!
Yeah it’s pleasingly slim but then again we’re talking quartz here
Yeah Ivan 🙂
Hi ya Ivan. Love the look of the blue one on rubber strap. Might have to add it to my white one 😜
Haha nice one! Less chance being asked if it’s real 😄
Another fantastic video, thanks !
Most welcome :)
Great value for money. I have previously owned the P:arnis version, and that was very good as well. Just wish they would drop the "SPORT" on the dial
Interesting - is the bracelet on the Parnis as good as this?
@@PerthWAtch haven't actually handled the Pagani, but the Parnis version is reasonable
You can't buy only one. I have four PD1664 on rubber and a couple of PD1644 on bracelet. Other than micro adjust being impossible to adjust I like all of them. Nice comparison.
Haha nice, many different colours and designs to choose from!
I own a couple of the 1644's (silver and blue, black dial with gold subdials and case) and think they offer incredible value. They also do a green one which looks looks pretty cool. The bracelet on the silver/blue one is acceptable, while the thick rubber strap on the other one is very comfortable. The PD1687 could have been so much better. I actually quite like the large numbers on the dial, but as already been pointed out the numerals at the base of the watch are upside down, this is just plain WEIRD. The '0' in chronograph is also a bit of a 'typ0'. A real shame PD doesn't get someone with a better understanding of appropriate dial layout to check these watches out BEFORE they make them. An opportunity missed here to give us something a little different without obvious errors on the dial.
Yeah good comment and thoughts there Graham. To be honest the number orientation didn’t bother me much but I can see how that could be very grating!
You are ABSOLUTELY right about this watch. This is the best Pagani watch among all of their watch line ups. Actually, I have bought about 3 of them, not for myself, but as gifts for my friends. They look amazing and I can totally trust the movement. If there are some gripes about this watch, I can say.... I would prefer brushed bracelet (too many scratches on the current mid links) and also "easier" size adjustment for the clasp. I think there are 3 tiny adjustments inside of the clasp, but that was a pain in the butt to get them working.... (Rolex style, Glide lock would have been the killer, but probably they wouldn't get it right anyway.... ha ha)
PS: it must be winter in Perth (of course). Here in L.A. it is hotter than hell.... I can't wait for October to come, ha ha Have a great day, Ivan.
Hi Alex! Wow I didn’t realise you consider this the best of their lineup - I guess I terms of complexity of assembling a chronograph with all the little hands plus the pushers here it is indeed their hardest to execute! You’re right about the clasp adjust, it’s a dog to work with! I predict that just as they are now close to nailing this bracelet, they will eventually have a working glide lock clasp on many of their bracelets.
PS. Yes indeed still winter here but now coming to the end, ready to welcome spring :)
Forget the "Rolex" part, good mechanically Seiko inside it will go on for many years. Hard to beat
This is quartz…
I have one of the white ones, and it is an excellent watch with one drawback- it's bloody difficult to tell how many minutes are on the chrono scale at 9:00! Minute grey text on a black surround does not make for great visibility. This would be a much better design if this dial went to 30 minutes rather than 60.
Thanks for that - very good point you make about the 60 min dial! No chance for Pagani to do that though… we would have to lobby Seiko.
Hey Ivan thanks for the video...hope you are safe in Perth. Regarding Pagani, I have two green hulk and Tudor like models. Both have had bracelets that have lost screws and the watch has fallen off my wrist. They now just sit in my watch box, pretty to look at, but that's all, as I am concerned they will fall off--again--and become more damaged than they already are. I have spoken to a couple of my watch friends and they have also experienced failed screws in the bracelets and had their watch fall off. Don't know if the watch community has any pull but frankly until they fix their bracelet situation I am not going to buy another one. Cheers.
In my opinion push pins are much better.I have one watch with a dodgy screw held in with Loctite, seems to be holding ok. Replacement screws are available but if shouldn't come to that.
I’ve heard of the issue of screws coming loose (and not just in Pagani) but that’s not happened in my own experience of quite a lot of watches. I guess it might be a matter of taking care to screw it in with just the right amount of tightness…?
Your detailed review made me finally pull the trigger with your link.
I've wanted a mecha quartz
Unlikely to ever be cheaper than now.
The bracelet made this a better value.
It's a nuisance setting an auto everytime I use it.
So it'll be floating over on a boat to Canada next month.
Stay well.
Nice one! It’s massively great value - hope it gets to you soon!
I have a lot of conflicting opinions on a homages/micro brands. There certainty are some very nice high quality micro brand pieces available, unfortunately they don’t hold their value. I made the mistake of filling my watch box with homages and micro brands but my advice to everybody is to patiently save for whatever iconic watch you desire because you’ll never completely be happy if you continue down the path of homages especially…
There’s only one brand which consistently holds value - Rolex. And perhaps also Patek but that’s beyond most of us. Investment value should not be the reason to get watches IMO. And not everyone is in a position to save for higher end Swiss pieces, but homage is within reach.
Found it on Ebay for $70us, great watch with a Seiko movement. It is going straight to the pool room with my other homages.
Not on the wrist??
The white face looks pretty good from a distance ...can't complain for the price
Only from a distance? :)
@@PerthWAtch Well it's not Rolex quality ... but great for the price
Hi Ivan, is the end link removable on the rubber-strap model? If it is removable, can it fit on the white dial one?
Nope not removable, so the bracelet and rubber aren’t interchangeable…
I'm enjoying the white one which I picked up for $68. As expected for the price it isn't perfect but it keeps good time. I don't find the dark one attractive.
Great price! What specific aspects do you not like about it?
hi i am new to this, whats the difference vk63 and vk67 version apart from the movement name? how do they differ?
Subdial layout is very different… just Google image search and you’ll see
Another great review!
Would you consider to review new PD-1689 model from Pagani? Homage to Rolex Cellini. Seiko VH65 meca-quartz movement. Sapphire. 200WR.
~$60
Sure but not sure when I’d get to that… still got another Pagani in the backlog of work I need to get to…
I just noticed that the blue model is a chron zero graph
A what?
@@PerthWAtch The text on the blue model reads CHRON0GRAPH, note the zero where the o should be
Oh my goodness… well spotted sir!!
The second "O" in the "CHRONOGRAPH" on the 1687 is actually 0, not "O". The overall presentation in the 1644 is better for me.
Well spotted mate!!
I can't get past the PD 1687 having the Arabic numerals 4,5,7,8 upside down!
Yeah that’s a bit weird…
Rolex is upside down also, so its accurate
Yes it is!
Ceramic is advertised, listed on every single ads or stores which sell this watches and you don’t know…….
I don’t get why some people listen only to the bits they want to hear and ignore other parts, then make an off track comment
I've lost all interest in Chinese copies! At first, they were interesting but I just cannot buy watches without any original design or history. I guess my tastes have evolved. Cheers
Well for sure these are not original at all and certainly have no history either :)
For those people and myself included I love the Rolex Daytona style. I could never afford the real Rolex let alone the wait time if I could. So these are great ways to get the itch scratched. I attended a local watch meet and held the real Rolex Daytona and I had my PD Daytona, the organiser took a side by side photo. I must say I am very pleased with the PD as it definitely gives the look of the real Rolex and is extremely comfortable to wear.
I wonder how this would look on a bund strap.
Pretty good I think
It is a clumsy case, I also have it, clumsy model, the lume is a joke, and the stopwatch is also a joke, you can turn it on and off, nothing more, no time in between, so a stupid watch.
It’s a great case, elegant model, very smart watch.
A stopwatch needs to be able to start, stop and reset - which is what this does. I don’t know what you mean by “time in between” - please try to write that in normal English. Cheers!
Looks like the video quality get worst…
What?
@@PerthWAtch lm not sure maybe it’s some camera or postproduction issue.