Why The Rolex Explorer 40mm Is A Scam - Review of 224270 - Perth WAtch
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Review of the iconic and ever popular Explorer, now back again in "40mm" size. Enough said :)
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00:00 - Intro & packaging
01:33 - Watch close-up
02:21 - Movement
03:04 - Case dimensions
03:41 - The BS about 904L
05:09 - Case finishing
06:47 - Dial details
08:35 - Lume shot
08:45 - Crystal
09:02 - Bracelet
10:20 - Wrist shot
10:57 - Overall thoughts
14:50 - Closing
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Hello. Enjoyed your video. Curious, If you measure from 2 to 8 what is your measurement. Thanks.
Thanks for that.
The case sides are rounded and slippery, so it's tricky to hold a calliper steady in position there but best as I can make it out it's about 39.4mm.
Clickbait title.
No - watch the video to find out!
I don't think so.
Calling it a 40mm watch is clearly a lie /scam.
Yep… my point exactly
Yep. 100%
The scam is this is oyster perpetual
Depends on your perspective. I've a 36mm with Acrylic and hollow end links, makes a watch that is 110 grammes, you barely notice it's there. All the subsequent ones look huge and the flat sapphire changes the character entirely, they do nothing for me.
Thanks for the perspective… my good mate Jeremy feels a similar way, he has a 36mm too
As a 40 wearer I also like the look of the thick acrylic crystals of yesterday. I also like how the nice ones catch a little rim of light where they are raised about the bezel. Sometimes I think it’s be cool if they’d go a little thicker. Having said that, I do find it funny how under every UA-cam video of the 40, you’ll find an offended 36 wearer. Whereas I think the 36 and 40 are both super cool watches.
Have anti reflective coating on the crystal? See difference compared to older models without?
Yes
Thanks for the review. I could be very happy with this watch, lol. (I previously owned an Exp 39 Mk1 w/shorter hands, & non-lumed 3-6-9 indices.) Liked & subscribed.
Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed the review :)
It's crazy that they won't bring glidelock to these clasps. in the past they updated clasp technology as it was available, even in the middle of a models lifespan. The easylink is better than nothing, but it's such a big incremental change that it's not particularly useful. I'd honestly rather just have five drilled micro adjusts like you used to on the stamped clasps.
Yeah fair point there - I wouldn’t have liked if they stuck to stamped clasps but the functionality of the micro-adjust was certainly better than this in many ways.
It’s a light watch I own one myself, the easy link is adequate as you can wear it a bit looser. I also own a Sub which is a bulkier and heavier watch so the glidelock there is a great feature but it’s a non issue to me that it’s omitted on the 40mm Explorer. In fact I took both watches on holiday to Tenerife several weeks back and the Sub went in safe after a few days as I was enjoying the comfort of the Explorer 40 more, you don’t notice you are wearing it.
Spin-ability! Love your work
Thanks mate - box spin rating is one of the most important factors in deciding the excellence of a watch ;)
I only wear 34-35mm to 37mm watches. But I have normal size forearms and wrists and yes, my watches look small. I just have a different idea of what a wristwatch should be and look, I don’t like the concept of going out with something noticeable. So I would go with the 36mm on this model.
Fair enough - thanks for sharing that perspective
Nice vid. The bracelet link observation is interesting - I just picked up an Explorer 2 black dial (2 year wait to get), and it fit perfectly with one link removed. I have an 18.5 wrist so I’m thinking some guys bigger than me might struggle. The Explorer 2 is also a bit smaller than advertised (42) at 41.5, it wears like a 41 many brands. Very thin (easily under a dress cuff, which matters if you work in an office). I’d suggest anyone thinking about a Rolex to go into an AD and try the display models. Not every watch suits every wrist. I used to own the 39 Explorer and it always looked an odd size, a bit small for me (I’m 6’2) but it was too large my son (who is 5’10, slimmer than me). A very particular fit that doesn’t work for everyone, despite what some people claim. A simple sports watch has to be just right size wise for your wrist, too small and you don’t notice it / enjoy it, too large and it’s awkward.
Thanks for taking the time to share those thoughts and insights - most appreciated!
Hi Ivan. I absolutely agree with you about having (or giving) a glide-lock and 20mm lug to make the watch near perfect. But at least for me, if they can use the "sword hour hand", THAT would make it really perfect. (never was a big fan of Mercedes Rolex hand, ha ha). Perhaps that was why I was partial to Ginault models..... Ivan reviewing a Rolex????? honestly, very surprised.....Anyway, good day, Ivan!
without mercedes hour hand it will be op, which in my opinion look better.
Haha thanks for that - yeah many of us are sick and tired of one Mercedes hand after another… but it’s so quintessential here it didn’t even hit my radar!
I tried on this 40mm or technically 39mmm watch and it does seat larger than my 39mm watch (MK2). I have a 6.5 inch wrist I think it fits me perfectly - in that case the 39mm propably measures smaller too! I do prefer my 39mm especially the matt black dial over the gloss dial. Either way all explorers are the best - enjoy yours 😊
Thanks for sharing - yes, they are great watches.
But… seems like there’s no need to guess here, why don’t you go ahead and measure yours and let us know what the true case size is?
How many mm was the previous generation, the 39mm?
Given that Rolex can’t be trusted on this and all the watch blogs also seem to be oblivious (or worse, knowingly lie) about this, I really don’t know! 🤷🏻♂️
I believe the previous model was 38 mm
Cool… but is belief sufficient? 😄
@@PerthWAtch in this case no.
Hahaha
Thanks Ivan good review 👍I think that Explorer is a fabulous watch
Thanks James :)
Am I the only one who thinks that the Rolex Explorer, Polar Explorer and Oyster Perpetual watches are just Dull looking overhyped watches? .
You’re not alone… they are in many ways quite boring, but now that I have had this in hand, I have to say that there is something else there when you handle it, the refinement is difficult to deny even for a skeptic like me
Totally 💯 agree.
Boring in the same way a Porsche 911 is a boring sports car.
Absolutely man, plenty of people have no taste like you, it’s not uncommon. Luckily there is a diverse range of watches for you to choose from. Might I suggest a iced out Datejust or Hublot for a less boring look.
@@Explorer40mm👆👎🏼
It’s refreshing to find a Rolex which is easily available at retail here in the U.K. thankfully this model also sells under retail on the secondary. Nice piece, although I have an Omega Railmaster in rotation, so it’s not one I’m tempted to get. Enjoy it.
Thanks for the comment - I’m jealous you can find this easily at retail… and also that it sells under retail there! It’s not like that in most places AFAIK
@@PerthWAtchIt is available everywhere. If you pay over retail, you are getting screwed.
It’s not available everywhere
@@PerthWAtch I guess it’s only certain markets at present, given it available to buy in AD windows here in the U.K, I am sure it will eventually be the wider case everywhere else.
Does seem like only certain markets at present. It could go the other way, ie. become scarce again everywhere
is rolex a bit more available now to buy? i wonder..
Some people say this Explorer is one of the easier models to get.
I had the DateJust 41 that measured at just below 40 which I also don't understand
Probably same deal here… they didn’t want to make it sound similar/same as a previous model!
Easlylink rapid extension system is the best thing for me since sliced bread. My 19.8 cm wrist will change throughout the day to over 20.0 cm (and back) depending on activity and ambient temperatures. Such a useful feature for me that I use it about 6 to 8 times a day. I love it so much that I plan to order the aftermarket Steel Reef version for my other watch that doesn't come with one from Rolex.
Is the Easylink is the best thing since sliced bread, then the Glidelock would be heaven on earth :)
Nice Ivan , wear in good health .
Thanks mate :)
Its nice enough...
Erebus have released something similair but a bit more cost effective.......
New erebus is closer to seiko sarb.
Many many companies have released something similar… some are extremely similar, *all of them* are more “cost effective” :)
I own a 36mm OP. Other than the amazing movement and white gold indices, the overall quality of a San Martin is incredibly close
Yep, San Martin is pretty awesome! But almost everything they do is copied…
@@PerthWAtch They are producing more and more of their own designs now. Worth a look Ivan
Yeah that’s true… but their biggest sellers (as far as I can see) remain their homage work
Always thought these look odd. If the dial had 12-3-6-9 it would look more balanced. IMHO the plain oyster looks much better and you get a choice of dial colours. Infact I'd go as far as to say the explorer is a bit of a rip off.
Wait… aren’t they ALL a ripoff?
It’s a lovely watch, and on my 7 inch wrist it’s perfect. I’m still wearing my IWC Mk XX, so happy for now, though I’ll get the Explorer at some point and they’re a lot easier to get now than a couple of years back.
Good to know they’re easier to get now - where are you based?
London.
Yeah some people in UK said that too
I'd happily buy your extra two links off you. Just bought this watch yesterday and I'm going to need a few links.
Did you get it new from a dealer?
@@PerthWAtch Bought it off a grey dealer in Melbourne. Paid retail for it. Still has 4.5yrs of warranty left. It came with full factory links but I'm still going to need a few more.
I own this watch. It’s great! I do find it a bit small. Prefer a little larger watch. I was able to get it from AD after 3 month wait. I think it’s one of the easier professional models to obtain.
Thanks for sharing the thoughts! 3 months is pretty good! I can’t even get an OP after more than a year wait here! Where are you based?
@@PerthWAtch I’m in the US. Arizona. Bought one Tudor from that dealer prior. So not a big spend history. Not bad!
Nice one - sounds like a pretty fair place to be if you wanna get a Rolex… I wonder how long it might take to get offered a Sub?
@@PerthWAtch working on that now. We will see!
Good luck!
The Explorer ranks right up there as a candidate for a one Rolex buy, or IMHO even a one watch collection.
Yeah, fair point… I think many would agree
I can't really agree that it's a perfectly refined design. I've owned a few Explorer's, 36mm and 39mm, and there is always something off about the whole proportions of the things. I want it to be the perfect watch. I wish it were the perfect watch. But it just never quite looks right 😕
What would you change to make it more perfect?
@@PerthWAtch I actually think what it is, is the wideness of the polished flat bezel juxtaposed against the flat brushed bland looking lugs, when viewed from straight on. It's never been visually appealing to me. Whereas on my Datejust, the smaller, domed bezel looks beautiful against the sculptured polished lugs.
Fair enough - I get what you mean. Thanks for sharing your perspective 👍
@@1000lightyrs Luckily the entire bezel will look brushed after a few a few weeks of wear. These things lose their lustre quickly. Grand Seiko polishing, for example, is like a good haircut, it only lasts a few weeks.
Yikes, you’re freaking me out!
Should have 4 links at 6 o clock to make the clasp center at your wrist
Are you talking about someone's else's Rolex? Coz I have 4 links on this one.
@@PerthWAtch looks like 5 to me.
Oh my gosh! 😆
Thanks for your great review. To me, Rolex is like a Michelin Star chef. This is how I will cook your meal and you *will* like it.
Haha good analogy, I like it :)
Have you tried the 36mm on the wrist? This is big in my opinion
Yes I have - 36mm is small
@@PerthWAtch good, when all the options are present is when one can truly make his preference certain. Happy that you found yours
Maybe *you* need all the options present… but I’ve done literally hundreds of reviews and I didn’t need to see the 36mm to know it’s too small ;)
@@PerthWAtch i mean all the different watch sizes bro. No need to get hostile 😂
No need to get sensitive - read the emoticon bro 😂🤣🤣
It’s obvious to me why they call this watch the Explorer 40mm. Just two years before they discontinued the 39mm Explorer and went back to the 36mm. Unfortunately for them this backfired as most people thought it was too small so they hurriedly introduced the bigger watch, however they couldn’t call it the 39mm Explorer as that would be a blatant admission they’d made a huge mistake. Hence they’ve brought it back as the 40mm when in fact all they’ve done is updated the old 39mm watch.
Indeed. You have explained it succinctly. That’s one of the common “explanations” I have heard which fails to justify this scam.
@@PerthWAtch I don’t think it’s a scam, one should always try a watch on before buying to check how it fits you, they can call it what size they want as far as I am concerned as long as it’s ballpark correct. I don’t think the Datejust 41 is 41 mm either. Nor is the Explorer 36mm it is 35mm.
You think a company deliberately and knowingly advertising something that is objectively not what it claims is ok. I don’t. You can have your view, and I can have mine. All good 👍
@@PerthWAtch it’s not like they are charging you per mm though is it, you know like a kilo of bananas? 😂
And that, folks, is how to miss the point 😂🤣
I have the previous 39. I absolutely love it. And I prefer it to my Sub, and Datejust most of the time. It flies under the radar. IYKYK. And that is a good thing for those of us who don’t always want to advertise that we are wearing a Rolex.
Thanks - agreed about this tending to “fly under the radar”.
What is the size of the previous 39?
@@PerthWAtch I guess it is a true 39. Not sure I can measure within 1 mm. I rather suspect that the new 40 is the exact same, If not, they very slightly thickened the bezel. It really is the perfect watch. And this comes from someone that has more expensive Rolexes & others.
Agreed - it very comes close to being perfect!
You can get good digital callipers for under $10 these days… worth it!
@@PerthWAtch thanks! I try to keep mine in as close to showroom condition as I can. I wear it under sleeves when practical, and I lightly buff (not overly polish) scratches out of the bezel. I figure that stainless steel is not a precious metal, and it looks amazingly better when it is clean and shiny. I don’t allow dirt and grime to stay in the bracelet & grind on the pins; rather I clean with a toothbrush regularly.
Sounds like a much loved piece indeed!
That clasp looks like it's gonna catch onto something.... tell me i am crazy.
You’re crazy ;)
I bought a Rolex Datejust 41. It measures 39mm. I probably wouldn't have bought it if I had known that.
Sorry to hear that mate… another victim of the Rolex scam machine!
Well... How U payin 10/11 k for sth U dont know about? I dont get IT. Before i buy a watch i know everything about IT. Thats Just so Rolex Like....ppl Just want the brand nothin else
I have the 36mm 124270 which measures at 35.4mm
Looks like another scam, but not as big as this one :)
For me the problem is the case, it is plain without any details. I was so underwhelmed I didn't buy one.
Did you have a chance to buy one from an AD? To me that’d be a no brainer given the guaranteed immediate profit…
@@PerthWAtch there is not so much profit to be done anymore (at least in Europe), with Chrono24 fees you are happy if you are even. But I prefer to wait for a submariner, with the two side to side it was impossible to pull the trigger. But we have each different taste it's just my opinion. In the meantime I'm happy with my tudor BB41 with 5 link bracelet.
Ah ok, thanks for sharing!
For me 40mm is not bad,i would like a 40mm in steel gold,i love this size because 36mm for my eyes make itmore difficult to read that 40mm,that the only reason...
Do you mean to say you would like 40mm instead of 39mm?
@@PerthWAtch no sorry,i say 39mm is good for me because i have bad eyes,so i cant buy anymore little watch.
Ah ok, thank you 👍
I agree 40mm is misleading. I found insertion quite difficult
Would true 40mm make it easier?
Yes, but less satisfying
Sounds like you need to make up your mind 😂
It is smaller than the 39mm version then?
If someone lends me one, I will compare and be sure to let everyone know… unlike those blogs online who perpetuate the lie!
Pleather boxes for the “king of Swiss watches” 😂
Not a Rolex fanboy, but pleather means that an innocent animal was not slaughtered.
They used to be just a small green cardboard box, what more do you need?
Whoa when were they cardboard?? Back in the 80s my dad had a wood lined one… in the end it’s just the box but it does feel somewhat underwhelming.
OMG Thank You, that's another issue I have with "king if Swiss watches". 🤣
wood is in order like Patek and high end Swiss brands.
I’m a first time watcher of your content and wanted to give your video a thumbs up, but after watching it through the entire way to find out that the ‘scam’ was just the size, I couldn’t do it - I guess I felt your clickbaity title was the real scam here.
Do you think it’s ok for a company to incorrectly and knowingly state something that is 100% objectively wrong? Guess I just have a different view on that to you.
Also, do you know what “click bait” means? Coz this ain’t it.
Rolex box spin is 4.9 out of 5.
Haha I probably needed to oil it up more!
I'm simply NOT getting a Rolex.
Everything wrong with todays society is examplified by the levels of greed in the Rolex-scene.
From the manufacturer, to the AD, to the grey market and to the flippers. Oh, and don't forget the hysterical UA-camrs!
There used to be a sense of exclusivity of having something special. A feat of engineering.
They now churn on millions of these watches and it's all about money....nothing special about that, but EVERYTHING that's wrong in our society.
Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective. I think the microcosm of Rolex does reflect greed and some other aspects that are more widely prevalent in many societies today… but definitely not everything. Just a fraction.
Title - SCAM! Then proceeds to praise pretty much everything about the watch.
So what?
Rolex does that on almost all their models
Rounds up and some
I don’t think so. The previous “40mm” sub was actually 40.3mm, just for one example.
Regardless, they do indeed give incorrectly low measures many times - a scam!
@@PerthWAtch that is a good example of rounding down for once
Current sub is 40.5 called 41
Current Explorer 36 is 35.3
Previous Daytona was 38.5 called 40
They definitely have their own set of callipers 😂😂
Haha indeed that seems to be the case! 😂
40mm is just perfect 👌🏽
39mm even more perfect 😆
I still rather want The 40.. for me is perfect. 39mm is almost perfect hehe.
Haha fair enough!
So you will need to wait for them to release the new Explorer 42mm 😂🤣
Daytona is 38.5
Whoa, an even bigger scam! 😆
Rolex burns my a$$ up with their LIES about case size. Too damn much money involved to get NOT what is expected. I ordered datejust 41 to find out it’s a 39.5. SOLD and bought an Explorer II
Thanks - I feel you bro!
What kind of click bait bs if this? Good luck with that.
You should watch the video before commenting.
Or look up terms before using them in a sentence.
@@PerthWAtch I did watch the video. Spoiler everyone: the explorer is a good watch! Shocker! Your channel is a scam. 😂
Looks like you don’t understand what “click bait” and “scam” mean… look it up dude 😂🤣🤣
@@PerthWAtch "Why the Rolex explorer Ii sucks!" 😂 Trash
Try using your words properly in sentences dude 😂🤣
Warning everyone: fake news spruiker here 😂🤣
The title of this video was a scam 😂
This commentator is a scam 😂
Everything about Rolex is a scam and they can get away with it. It is a completely overrated watch brand. At the beginning of the 1960s, you could buy a GMT Master for approx. $140 - what did you think, they laugh all the way to the bank when someone buys their watches
Well… a lot of it is scammy and marketing spin, but not *everything* is a lie…
Everything is a scam. Rolex just does it better.
Hahaha 😂
You could also buy a new car for not much more than 2k in the early 60s. I guess you don't have a car since they must be a scam too.
Click bait, just another watch review or unboxing. Or just put all Rolex sizes are scammy?
Nope. You should watch the video before commenting.
Or look up terms before using it in a sentence.
Scam!! Thems are fighting words! Honestly Perth watch man is that your whinge? Just because of the size, I've only recently subscribed to your channel thinking ok he's pretty cool... There's one thing I can't stand is clickbait! you bang on about how much you admire the watch, and then right at the end shout everyone stop It's a scam. The size is wrong. Please go down the disrespectful clickbait path, you're better than that
Thanks for the comment. Do you understand what “click bait” is? Coz this ain’t it.
I think I understand what clickbait is, but do feel free to explain it to me just in case I'm wrong. I have no problem if you have issues with Rolex lying about the size as your title suggests that fine, Just own it and tell the viewers about that issue. Towards the end you put the watch on and say it looks perfect. It's great
Seems like you can’t hold two ideas in your head.
Like I said, this ain’t click bait. You can try to explain why you think it is if you wish to understand. You will see that you can’t, and it ain’t.
Why the title is a scam.
Why this comment is a scam.
Click bait crap. Not a good start for your channel.
You should watch the video before commenting.
Or look up terms before using them in a sentence.
“Good start” - don’t be silly, I’m at over 400 vids 😂🤣
@@PerthWAtch Thank you for the spell check. Good luck with the channel.
Good luck to you also.
PS. I didn’t “spell check”anything 😂🤣
This is a really., really boring dial and an unremarkable movement. At these prices anything less han 70 hour PR and +/- 2 is a given.
But it's durable like a Timex it takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Other than tha I'd rather spend the money towards a Grand Seiko with an interesting movement and dial and non-obnoxious AD experience.
But GS a bit dressy of a watch... For a tool watch like this Explorer I'd rather have an IWC Big Pilot which is also basic but for some reason doesn't look boring. I think it's this Rolex font for the arabic numerals that reminds me of a Casio or Invicta from the mall.
Thanks for the comment. Perhaps you haven't experienced a lot of mechanical movements but I can tell you that no one else will give a rating of +/-2 sec/day. On the contrary, the reality is that far more expensive watches (think 6 figure price tag and Audemars Piguet, Richard Mille, etc) will be *less* accurate.
But yes, GS is awesome and I do agree that the Arabic numerals does look somewhat like the ones on my Mudmaster haha!
First comment
100%
@@PerthWAtch love your videos
Thanks man, appreciate it 👍
Clickbait title cheapens this watch review. Never going to watch another video from this UA-camr.
Fake news post from someone using words they don’t understand 😂🤣
Only scam is your clickbait thumbnail.
Nope - I'll refer you to other comments on this subject. Pasting in here for your benefit:
You should watch the video before commenting.
Or look up terms before using them in a sentence.
Unsubscribed - so bored of UA-camrs using overly dramatic clickbait titles to get views.
Meh. You should watch the video before commenting.
I don’t have to watch a video to know that any title with words like “scam” in this context is there purely for clicks.
UA-camrs need to treat their audience as a little less thick than a brain dead goldfish.
You are plain dead wrong. Some free advice: don’t judge a book by its cover.
But, whatever. You seem to know better than everyone else.
@@PerthWAtch well agree to disagree, but the days of putting titles designed to “shock”’and click-farm for views will be over soon. Just scroll through UA-cam. It’s tedious and people are getting wise to it.
You make good videos. You have a good subscriber base. ( I did watch the video). And it definitely isn’t the definition of a scam!
If company knowingly and deliberately advertises something that is objectively not what it is claimed, I consider that a scam, and I am clearly not alone here.
If you think that’s ok to do, that’s fine, you can have your opinion and I can have mine. Just coz you disagree, that doesn’t make this click bait.
Trust me. Guided lock clasps are long and heavy and do not fit well on underside of small wrists. You just need the one-stop folded over micro-adjust that Explorer stock clasps offer.
I’ve worn a Sub with a glide lock clasp - trust me, it’s good 👍
So, the Rolex Explorer is a scam because it's millimeter short? True! but I'd say Rolex watches in general are all a scam because they are massively overpriced and come off an assembly line. The only quality you get from them comes from robotic programing in a high-tech mecha- factory. Quality in my opinion should come from Human handheld craftsmanship and innovation by master sculptors and artists.
Certainly a point of view but a Handmade quality watch is going to set you back 10 times or more than Rolex prices.
I think there are many legitimate gripes that watch aficionados have against Rolex… my own biggest issue is the supply games they play, whereby I can’t ever buy the one I want from an AD.
Objectively though, they are pretty much the only name with near 100% rate of appreciation, and their products do seem to be highly refined over many decades of experience.
Honestly, I’m getting really really tired of the ‘I hate Rolex’ train. I’m not a fangirl, and I agree wholeheartedly with @PerthWAtch about the supply games - this has to stop -, but these anti-Rolex comments are becoming really annoying.🙄
@@philspencelayh5464 depends on the brand mate. Grand Seiko is far more handmade than rolex for half the price, and you can still get some award winning watchmakers' work on the secondary market for about the same as you'd pay for a submariner. It's about what one is willing to pay a premium for, and with rolex you're paying the premium for the name on the dial, but it's hard to justify for that alone
@@philspencelayh5464 True that.
nkuwan is best watch factory!!!
Huh?
In Toronto canada I buy a super super clone I bring it to a rolex expert he say it was real rolex . Unbelievable. Your super clone look just like mine. You a expert but a regular person like me will never know. Imagine on nkuwan
Yeah, you’re right in that most people will not be able to tell a fake, especially so if you don’t have a real one to compare with… but it sounds like that “expert” was a fake pretending to be an expert!