With all due respect to Matt, who has a great eye for the camera and I really enjoy his UA-cam videos....I watched this doc and didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first one. I agree with a lot of the comments on here that Josh and Ryan need to move on and find some new material. Their message is fine, and helped me a lot. But it's all on film, and audio, and print now.....they need to stop remaking the same content. Matt, I know you work hard and this isn't shot at your talent....I think it's just time to create something different.
I think Ryan and Josh are really great at introducing minimalism to people who aren't too familiar with it or don't know where to start. Agree it's a bit of a repackage for them, but there are a lot of other resources for those of us who have been eased into it already ☺️
I agree. I love The Minimalists, have their books, etc. But I found that focusing on the concepts they teach too much actually hindered my life. The documentaries celebrate extremists, which only made it more stressful for me. Ironic how their content is no longer necessarily "minimal" now.
@@angelopebs I think its not really good for those who aren't familiar with minimalism either. Minimalism comes of in this docu like some cult, not to mention that there are lots of false promises. Minimalism helps you coordinate your life but its just a small part of who you are, it wont turn your life upside down.
@@rileyhef Especially strange when they said that they packed up the whole house and only kept what he used. In my opinion its really extreme. Yeah we should throw out if something has no purpus in our life, but there are things that you dont use montly but you need it, or the purpuse of the item is that it makes you feel better on a day-to-day basis but you dont use it for anything. Being intentional is the key not that you throw out everything that you own .
Yes!! I jus felt like i was listening to some guys read an article abt minimalism to me rather than me really hearing their experience over the course of 10years
I watched the documentary because I like Matt. But I don't feel like I really learned anything about minimalism. I feel like I just watched two dudes try and preach to me about minimalism like it's some kind of religion.
Minimilaism is so simple it doesn’t need any explanation, if you decide to sell five shirts out of your closet, its minimalism, its different for everyone, the point of the movie was to preach that you don’t need to buy a Mazarati in order to be happy, even if you can.
Your comment is perfect. Wasn't what the whole audience that follows this channel was expectating. The problem is not the minimalism, is the same content repacked. And I was expectating that Matt would really appear in the movie :'(.
I agree and disagree, how interesting! 😊 I was already introduced to minimalism via Josh, Ryan and Matt through the first documentary, and this documentary did kind of seem like a lot of the same points reiterated over and over again. However during the first one, I watched with intrigue and sincere wonder, and attempted to get rid of a lot of my material possessions. Cleared out at least a third of my things and it gave me an awful lot of clarity in my life. I did enjoy the second one, but I didn’t take an awful lot away from it in an educational sense. I believe it’s probably 10x more impactful for anybody who hadn’t already been introduced to minimalism, much like the first one.
So a bit like the first doc then? I watched it twice and really struggled with why people loved it so much. It just seemed like an Opus about two dudes in America that slowly gain an audience at their talks. Thanks for being so open in the comments, I think I'll skip this one then.
Honestly both documentaries r well made just Josh and Ryan just seem to repeat themselves a lot, the second documentary should have been talking about someone else other than Josh and Ryan just to give a more in depth view from a different perspective. But on the whole the documentaries were well directed and edited, well done!!
I love you Matt but the documentary was a let-down content wise. No real need for it as it doesn't add much then the first documentary. Get rid of Josh and Ryan - the doc should be about the movement not them. Gosh I need to reiterate that the cinematography was Great but damn - real let down.
This documentary is absolutely hypocritical and promotes self-help consumerism over an actually minimalist life style. This is a great step-in-the-door opportunity for Matt, and it makes sense why he would promote that and be proud of it. However, Ryan and John are just horrible community reps to make a documentary like this around.
@@masonc975 LOL, do you realise it's JOSH and Ryan, not John? 😅 What is the need for your negativity? Do you personally know those guys? Erm... no, you don't. So, does that give you the right to judge them? Oh, let me think....no, it doesn't.
@@aimeejane_writings That's such a shallow response, clearly written out of shear emotion. Do yourself a favor and get out your feelings because what he's saying actually makes a lot of sense. JOSH and Ryan come off as hackish cult leaders at this point. Have you seen both documentaries, as well as their books and TED Talks?
@@aimeejane_writings Why are you asking and answering your own questions for further emphasis on a point that’s not correct? Do you think we have to know someone personally in order to have opinions on what they produce and what they advocate for? For example, do you think that people aren’t allowed to speak negatively/criticize Donald Trump because we’ve never known him personally ? As public figures they’ve put their lives out there under a spotlight for us to perceive and I don’t think Mason’s criticism is negativity just to be negative. It’s foolish to think that all criticism is simply negativity that shouldn’t ever be voiced.
This is why I turned off these two. They have duped the majority and have made minimilism, an age old way of being, a multi million dollar industry. A disgrace quite frankly and complete contradiction in MORE WAYS THAN ONE.
@@timshields8720 they introduce people to minimalism. They are not responsible for keeping people going as minimalists. They are not even making that much money. And even if they start making more, its literally our decision to feed them that attention.
Yeah I was really disappointed in the documentary tbh I wanted to support Matt and hopefully learn something i didn't know or just enjoy the stories from the people they interviewed but it wasn't what I was looking for ☹
@@_Sapph_ Had the same reaction. Thought it would be something new, but as someone who saw the first one and the continued on to the minimalists podcast, there was nothing new in this documentary. Still watched it to support Matt but I was also disappointed. The visuals were beautiful at least.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@SuShiiAeLin there is a bit on The Office where Kevin starts baby talking to save time saying complete sentences. That could be minimalist language! Your comment reminded me of that bit. Me no agree. Documentary bad.
You’re a talented film maker...but you can tell the second one had no real idea or clear direction. I find it amazing that you had three chains of reviews each step of the way (including Netflix) and not one person said why are we repeating ourselves? Actually quite shocking to hear
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 sorry but this is not the same thing. An equivalent would be releasing a new album claiming its new content but it’s just their greatest hits.
@@seanrawlinson think about it, documentary 1 and documentary 2 share TWO things in common: 1) they are both DOCUMENTARIES. 2) they are both about the SAME TOPIC: MINIMALISM so imagine you're an artist and you write 2 songs, they are 1) BOTH THE SAME GENRE and 2) BOTH ABOUT THE TOPIC OF LOVE and then someone says u already wrote that song? pretty dumb thing to say, the melody is different, the rhythm is different, the lyrics are different, the genre and subject matter are obviously still the same but that doesn't make them the same thing.
I would have loved a documentary about your journey with minimalism with actionable steps for getting rid of stuff. I did not enjoy the 60 minute creepy cult session with Josh and Ryan where they said the exact same stuff as the last documentary .
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
When I started to watch the film I was like wait I have seen this where's the new documentary? Sadly the document was pointless just repeating the same stories from Josh and Ryan that I have heard maybe four times already.. Too bad, I was waiting for an update from these guys or something new on them. It would have been a much better film if Matt had been in it with other minimalists. This could have been so much more but it was shot in an over dramatic way and the point was repetitive.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 dear random dude, looks like you have taken a big bite of that cult cake. Have a good day! p.s. Please do name a songwriter who wrote the same song four times and called it new. No? Didn't think so bye...!
@@incognitoimp5855 i had to stop listening to their podcast real quick. repetitive, pretentious, and definitely as you said, self important. i appreciated their episode on finances, and i think i've gotten all i can from them lol
Would've been great to interview people from different cultures. Native Americans already practice "take only what you need and use everything you take". Or explore roots of minimalism in Japanese culture. Maybe mention Marie Kondo? Let's stop pretending a couple of white guys invented this ideology.
It's almost exactly the same documentary as the first one .... Not that it wasn't good, it just felt like I was watching a remixed version of the first movie. A bit of a strange experience 🤨
It seems like you are being really hard on yourself, Minimalism was an excellent film. Maybe it didn't meet your vision because of inexperience and funding but I thought it was great! I find The Minimalists super repetitive so I have stopped consuming their content but I watched the new documentary to support YOU! I look forward to whatever film you might make next but I really hope it doesn't focus on Josh and Ryan anymore, perhaps they can be behind the scenes but still part of a team that pushes you to get the project completed.
I love your abilities but that movie was so unnecessary when the Minimalism one exists. I’ve heard the Minimalist’s story repeated so many times already. They just keep repeating the same thing in different mediums over the years
Yeah because their purpose was and is to spread the idea, and no one is gonna dig up an old film to watch. As a minimalist myself, they were basically the people that introduced me to it. But they are not responsible for keeping me interested in minimalism. Because as a matter of fact, minimalism is minimal in itself.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Why are you under every single comment. Stop bootlicking. The reason people are complaining is because of the hypocrisy that comes with promoting MINIMALISM while at the same time mass producing the same content and overcharging for courses and patreon subs, so you can't compare it to a musician who sings the same song twice.
@@adhamh3665 "bootlicking" lmao found the 16 yr old angsty kid who just learned the word bootlicking and uses it out of context every chance he gets haha. u mad i'm making a point to people who totally missed the point of this doc bc they watched drew gooden's video? hahaha there is no hypocrisy man, think a little harder than just taking every everything u hear from youtubers who just mock others as gospel. they're not "mAsS pRoDuCiNg" anything lmao they made 2 movies, there's no conveyer belt mass producing anything, almost like u don't know what mass production even means. and it's like u don't even know the meaning of the word minimalism. u proly think minimalism means u can only own ONE shirt or one pair of underwear. lmao imagine someone saying you're not minimalist bc u have more than one underwear. see how dumb your argument is?
Please watch Drew Gooden’s video about this! So good and really addresses the issue with these guys only continuing to recycle the same material over and over and over.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
And you also need to get past the whole minimalistic idea.. too much of something is always bad. Same happened with the doc, 1st one was great, 2nd absolutely pathetic.
I kinda felt the Docu was just rehasing from the first movie and added little more to the first movie. Also the way The blond minimalist talks is like a kid in school reading a novel. I think it did not bring much to the table, it was no issue with the camera work or the way it was shot it was the narrative.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 that argument makes 0 sense. If i make a song and sing it fine, but after 4 years if I make the same song, that makes no sense. The movie is bad objectively adds little to the minimalist movement and just expands a bit more the backstory, which we already knew if we read Joshs book. Still I see not how this movie adds to the minimalists?
@@NeoChromer "If i make a song and sing it fine, but after 4 years if I make the same song, that makes no sense." wtf are you even saying man, think about it, documentary 1 and documentary 2 share TWO things in common: 1) they are both DOCUMENTARIES. 2) they are both about the SAME TOPIC: MINIMALISM so imagine you're an artist and you write 2 songs, they are 1) BOTH THE SAME GENRE and 2) BOTH ABOUT THE TOPIC OF LOVE and then someone says u already wrote that song? pretty dumb thing to say, the melody is different, the rhythm is different, the lyrics are different, the genre and subject matter are obviously still the same but that doesn't make them the same thing. but whatever none of this matters since when i read that you said that "The movie is bad objectively" i realized you're not thinking straight since a movie is art and art is subjective and the complete opposite of objectivity like math. you also said it "adds little to the minimalist movement ", who said this movie was supposed to add to the minimalist movement? what if it's just trying to reach a larger audience? by the nature of what minimalism is, there isn't exactly a lot to expand on, it's about living with intentionality and not compulsively purchasing things bc we buy the lie that it'll make us happier in the longterm. minimalism is pretty straight forward as a concept so if they wanna make a second doc to reach more people and u complain that they're just repeating what they said in their book or first movie, you're totally missing the point. they proly made this movie to reach people who didn't read their book or watch their first doc.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 what is the point in spending so much time and money to make a docu which has the same message. two love songs from the same gerne give me two different experiences and different messages this docu just rehashed the same from the firat and did not extend on the existig docu ergo what was the point of the second docu that does the same from the same people i dont understand?
Unfortunately this shows the downsides to modern film making. The first version was a success, so Netflix basically signed you to remake the same film. The subjects weren't expansive characters, rather 2 guys with an audience to transfer over. The alternate intro at 17:05 was genuinely cutting and funny, but it didn't make the film because it wouldn't be mainstream enough. Ultimately, it ended up being a fantastically shot, well crafted, boring rerun. Like most films today.
I'm sorry but everything you just said is bogus. It has nothing to do with modern film making or mainstream. Films have been made this way for many years even before Netflix. And even if that weren't true, why is it such a downside? Getting your film picked up by a major streaming service is a bad thing??? They saw the potential and then granted the opportunity to create a beautiful film and help fulfill a vision on a much easier and grander scale. Do you know how many drafts a script goes through? How many screen tests are done before AND after a pitch? Do you know how many fantastic films on Netflix are born the same way Matt's was? Probably some of your favourite ones too. Every word that Matt spoke about how much the story changes in post-production is entirely true. And that skit/alternate intro was not serving the purpose they originally thought it would - he made the correct choice. Leave the film making to the film makers.
@@natecol9322 What I've said is objectively true, not just opinion. There are more sequels in modern filmmaking by far than in the past. Sequels are more likely to profit than original movies. Yes, films actually did used to be more innovative because investors have become better at predicting losses + have bigger budgets, which results in less risk. This is why Martin Scorsese called out Marvel. Rough drafts are normal, but the question is what's being asked of a rough draft? How it'd relate to the target audience, which is more expansive than ever, and more people are analyzing the rough draft from the supply side. The more teams analyze a film, the more it gets focus grouped, and the less risk taken by a smaller amount of people's unique vision.
@@natecol9322 Also I don't enjoy 90% of Netflix originals lmao, I canceled my subscription because they value quantity over quality. So not sure your point there. I don't think you get it. The storyline didn't change to follow the action. It was exactly like the remake. Watch Drew Gooden's "The Guy Who Turned Minimalism Into A Religion" critique of the film. I think you're just a fan of Matt's who doesn't realize the content here was very well done, flawless, low risk, and dry. All of those attributes can be together.
I actually love your content Matt, but maybe this film can be explored from a different point of view. If I only watched this video I would 100% watch your film, but after watching Drew Gooden's review I'd only watch it for the memes and laughs. My idea with this comment is not to criticise your film but rather some scenes that didn't make much sense. Everyone who sees this comment go watch Drew's review, you'll see what I mean with this.
This is so incredibly unaware it's hilarious. You're criticizing a movie you didn't watch. You just watched a video of someone else criticizing the movie. Can't even form your own opinions, must be sad.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 You must be one of the Josh and Ryan guys using a burner account, there's no way a randomer reply under every comment attacking people who didn't like the documentary.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 don't worry, I'll watch it and if I like it I'll say it right in this comment section. But i really appreciate drew gooden's reviews and he offers a great point of view that i won't doubt in trust
@@adhamh3665 Ah yes, the Internet in 2021, where disagreeing with someone is attacking them. By your logic you must one of drew gooden's guys using a burner account then? Lmao funny how u didn't even address my actual criticism with any sort of rebuttal but just said i was attacking someone 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@@yesitsmep drew is doing the lazy thing, he's just complaining and criticizing others for their efforts bc he woulda made a documentary differently. as far as i know drew doesn't have one, let alone two, documentaries streaming on Netflix. unfortunately negativity attracts views and clicks so that's why we have lots of roast youtubers like cody ko or h3h3. and drew's whole take is so stupidly narrow it's honestly depressing. When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. drew probably thinks minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly he seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
"There is no straight line to success" - no truer words said and this is the lesson we should all take from it! Keep going Matt! Hope you are safe and well in Oz.
Those two guys are pretty weird...and a lot of their documentary script is copied word-for-word from their TedTalk. I won’t be watching the doc, but I respect Matt’s production behind the scenes.
I just watched it yesterday. Didn't like it tbh. It was just the same old story again. Also the parts where the two dudes talk about their life and friendship are awkward. You could have easily put the film on your channel, I wouldn't exactly consider it Netflix worthy.
Good on you bro, they just literally repeated this documentary 6 years ago and had the same ted talk say the same thing. I’m glad you were able to produce this product but pls don’t work with them again since they come off as grifters.
I love both of the films, but there is sth that annoys me a lot in the second film, and that it the poor and fake acting of Josh and Ryan. The second film was almost the same as the first one, with a bit more actings, so it would he better if you told us another story. Thanks for uploading on UA-cam as well, you’re the best.
I felt your first documentary was really good and relatable and it gave me a lot of inspiration and motivation, but as somebody who doesn't live in America I just couldn't relate to the second documentary as all the motivation of changing the "normal" ideals or goals was alien to me.
I'll be straightforward: I think you're better than this stereotyped niche. Josh and Ryan seem genuinely good guys but I find them insufferable with their hyperbasic approach to less is more. Like dude this is a wildly mainstream concept that I understood in third grade, your job is to make it compelling or to dig deeper. Unfortunately the doc falls short on both ends. BTW I know the point of this video was sharing insights about the process and not really about the doc itself, and I found it very cool.
Learning how to be a minimalist would’ve been really cool instead of learning how the subjects of the documentary feel about being minimalists. This is just my opinion though.
As someone who edits on their laptop in their bedroom, this gives me hope. Even though you may never read this, you inspire me to make better videos everyday. So thanks Matt ✊
Can you hire someone to pitch a script, or help you sell it? It's a true Story, About Evel Knievel's Body Guard. Gene could be famous for several things that have been written in a Hollywood movie. He was a motorcycle jumper, heavy weight boxer & more. Gene's father is the subject of THE ODD COUPLE movie. His real Father is Ernie Nevers. Who has fame in 3 Professional Sports. He invented the hook shot; Pitched to Babe Ruth; Saved the NFL & has the oldest 4 NFL records. Ernie was a first inductee to the NFL Hall of Fame. George Clooney made a movie; Leatherheads about him. Gene's GREATEST privilege is about the lives he has saved, even famous people. Just by an inspired thought that came into his head... instead of using his fists. His fists that were going to fight Ali, Joe Frazier, George Formen, and the heavy weights of His day, before Rocky Marciano died in a plane crash. He even had a thought come into his head when he invented the first Skido, and did a stunt in San Francisco. He sent the blue prints to Honda and Kawasaki with no patent. But that voice in his head said "undo your helmet strap", and it kept his head on his body to respond. The movie script starts with his famed WW2 Command Bomber Pilot mother, buzzing him and his brother in a Crop Dusting Plane, bombing them with toilet paper rolls. Gene was the longest touring motorcycle jumper in the world, flying a bike through flames of fire, when there were only 5 motorcycle stuntmen in the world. He's highly regarded in the stunt world. You can watch him speaking to a King, or doing Evel Kneivels Funeral on our channel. Thanks for your advice. Ceci
You don't have to tell this story at the beginning, you've already done it twice... C'mon I love minimalism but I cannot stand these guys anymore, how can you spend 10 years of your life telling the same story of your life?! That's insane and unnecessary.
Matt I really like your videos, this is coming from the heart and in no way trying to attack you at all. You do see the hypocrisy here right? I mean the message of "we are fighting consumerism with minimalism" kind of gets lost when it depends on the mass consumption of a product. It feels dishonest. I recommend to focus your immense talent and energy on another project, you said all you needed to say on the matter in the first documentary. Your fans will be there don't worry.
Matt, your youtube content is way more helpful than the advice the minimalists give in the second netflix film. I recommend your videos to people all the time as they cover valuable health and finance topics on top of different approaches to minimalism. The second doc was the same information recycled which is basically the fault of Ryan and Josh preached the same washed out material. I think you created the sequel with Ryan and Josh's audience in mind without realizing your youtube audience would have supported the film with your original content.
The fact that he made "Minimalism" after only making 3-5 mis vid exclusively shows just how talented and stylistic Matt is as a film maker. 50% of the reason I watch Matt in the first place is for his cinematography. Congrats Matt!
Actually it was crap. Yes. I really liked the esthetics and editing but story was just THE SAME as it was in first movie. It was more about guys of The minimalists rather than the concept itself. Sorry but it's true. It's only my opinion though.
THIS actually helped me a lot! I am currently cutting my first short movie and I feel so frustrated and lost! So thank you for reminding me that it's normal and that I just need to keep on swimming
as you said that opener would have been pretty cool for the people who already know the minimalists and maybe would have made the movie a little more interesting for returnig viewers but the final product ends up feeling a bit shallow, there is absolutly nothing new for those people, the message is exactly the same almost word by word, so a little comedy would've been nice
Honestly Matt's direction was great but Josh and Ryan's story is very repetitive from their Ted Talks and the first film, and I wished we could hear from other minimalists or Matt's own point of view. Matt I want to see you make more movies but please no more with the Minimalists.
Matt, I'm a fan of the first minimalist. But the second, not so much. It's not because a bad directing, but it's because it literally have the same essence as before. So I'm sorry for the bad review.
I guess it's time to open a church now, cuz it's the only way for these guys to continue repeating the same thing over and over and over again. Love your work and your vids Matt but IMO this docu 2.0 was definitely redundant.
I was also slightly disappointed. Shot and edited beautifully but trying to resuscitate an old story. You will now just have to redeem yourself with a third one, focusing on your own story.
Loved watching this, I have always been enticed by documentaries and find it fascinating seeing your process and progress with a minimal team. I look forward to checking out the second doc as I haven't yet watched it.
The new film was a retred of what you did for your first film. You really should have picked other minimalists to cover. There also should have been more actionable things talked about for a person to do to become a minimalists. Ex: I have trouble with buying stuff when I am sad how do I deal with that. Also maybe talk to people of color and there relationship with stuff.
I’m not gonna say anything new in this comment that someone else hasn’t touched on but this documentary is not worth the time. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt but at this point the two guys that The documentary focuses on are at best one trick ponies and at worst a bunch of conman. If you expect to learn something from it like you would for Matt’s videos you’re in for a rude awakening. All of the content that is in the documentary can be seen either in their first documentary, or on their multiple TEDTalks that are available on UA-cam. It retreads all the same ground. I’m glad Matt is getting work and the recognition of a filmmaker but this is not worth anyone’s time.
The general audience rarely takes a moment to consider the enormous amount of effort and resources required to produce, direct, and distribute a film. When a film is effective, its images seem to be woven together seamlessly... effortlessly. Matt D’Avella, congratulations on a job well done. For this gargantuan effort (and resulting piece of art), you deserve fame and fanfare... and more. ✨
Summary of the movie from comments: Bad, boring, nothing new. Could you stop promoting it? It is funny when everybody agrees it is bad and you still continue.
I just want to reiterate what seems to be a common trend in the comments. Once again, the documentary was beautifully edited and made like all your content. That is a testament to your talent and creative skills. I loved the everyday minimalists segments of the doc and the interviews with the experts. But we have heard ryan and joshs' story and it felt like a repeat. Keep doing your thing, Matt. You are great at what you do, you are very inspirational.
I love you Matt but the documentary was pretty awful. 8 Million dollar budget? Where did it all go? Its literally the same 2 guys repeating the same words from their documentary from a couple years ago and their UA-cam videos. If anyone disagrees please look up Drew Goorden's video on this he explains it very well and the irony in the documentary. 2 rich white privileged males with luxury condos ,driving their luxury sports car, making a ridiculous amount of money, and putting out the same documentary as the one before all while preaching minimalism is ironic to me.
Matt, please talk on how you make your creative career sustainable (without having to work and full-time/part time job). What are your sources, how you manage time for it, etc. Please 🙏
Honestly Matt the cinematography was beautiful, you are an artist and I cannot wait for your next creation, but I agree with lots of commenters here, I think the main story was weak and never curved, not at all on your part so much as Josh's dialogue seemed really forced and overdramatised. I kept thinking I wish it was just more candid rather than first person, telling it as if they are experts. I love if they got interviewed amongst a general minimalism story about society, one perspective on a movement. Maybe it was just because we follow you here so we 'know' about minimalism already, but nothing really made me think differently, whereas this YT channel is always so insightful! especially your own experiments and the podcast guests. Either way, thank you so much for sharing this video about how it all came together, it is invaluable for a young filmmaker to see the realities and failed attempts and just the whole process. Also, I love your points at the end about being open to moving the story in the edit away from how it was shot or how you initially anticipated it should go, thanks for being so honest about your own dilemma regarding the structure. Thank you Matt.
I loved to First film you made vary inspiring but man. That second documentary was the exact same movie! it was like watching the same thing twice.. sorted disappointing 👎
First one was great. Couldn’t even get through the second. Far from genuine, repetitive, pointless.... Disappointing considering the success of the first.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
Music is NOT a Netflix documentary. Your argument has so many fallacies and illogical material that I felt sick after reading it. Stop defending it, kindly.
With all due respect to Matt, who has a great eye for the camera and I really enjoy his UA-cam videos....I watched this doc and didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the first one. I agree with a lot of the comments on here that Josh and Ryan need to move on and find some new material. Their message is fine, and helped me a lot. But it's all on film, and audio, and print now.....they need to stop remaking the same content. Matt, I know you work hard and this isn't shot at your talent....I think it's just time to create something different.
Yeah same. Minimalism can help a lot but this documentary made it seem like its a cure for all of your problems.
I think Ryan and Josh are really great at introducing minimalism to people who aren't too familiar with it or don't know where to start. Agree it's a bit of a repackage for them, but there are a lot of other resources for those of us who have been eased into it already ☺️
I agree. I love The Minimalists, have their books, etc. But I found that focusing on the concepts they teach too much actually hindered my life. The documentaries celebrate extremists, which only made it more stressful for me. Ironic how their content is no longer necessarily "minimal" now.
@@angelopebs I think its not really good for those who aren't familiar with minimalism either. Minimalism comes of in this docu like some cult, not to mention that there are lots of false promises. Minimalism helps you coordinate your life but its just a small part of who you are, it wont turn your life upside down.
@@rileyhef Especially strange when they said that they packed up the whole house and only kept what he used. In my opinion its really extreme. Yeah we should throw out if something has no purpus in our life, but there are things that you dont use montly but you need it, or the purpuse of the item is that it makes you feel better on a day-to-day basis but you dont use it for anything.
Being intentional is the key not that you throw out everything that you own .
Matt I won’t lie, your story is way more compelling than Matt and Ryan’s. For your next film I encourage you to tell your story
Absolutely agree! Go for it Matt!
Yes!! I jus felt like i was listening to some guys read an article abt minimalism to me rather than me really hearing their experience over the course of 10years
*Josh and Ryan
YESYESYES.
He told his story here on UA-cam
I watched the documentary because I like Matt. But I don't feel like I really learned anything about minimalism. I feel like I just watched two dudes try and preach to me about minimalism like it's some kind of religion.
Yepp, minimalism can help to just clear things up around you but its not a cure for all solution.
Minimilaism is so simple it doesn’t need any explanation, if you decide to sell five shirts out of your closet, its minimalism, its different for everyone, the point of the movie was to preach that you don’t need to buy a Mazarati in order to be happy, even if you can.
Your comment is perfect. Wasn't what the whole audience that follows this channel was expectating. The problem is not the minimalism, is the same content repacked. And I was expectating that Matt would really appear in the movie :'(.
I agree and disagree, how interesting! 😊 I was already introduced to minimalism via Josh, Ryan and Matt through the first documentary, and this documentary did kind of seem like a lot of the same points reiterated over and over again. However during the first one, I watched with intrigue and sincere wonder, and attempted to get rid of a lot of my material possessions. Cleared out at least a third of my things and it gave me an awful lot of clarity in my life. I did enjoy the second one, but I didn’t take an awful lot away from it in an educational sense. I believe it’s probably 10x more impactful for anybody who hadn’t already been introduced to minimalism, much like the first one.
So a bit like the first doc then?
I watched it twice and really struggled with why people loved it so much. It just seemed like an Opus about two dudes in America that slowly gain an audience at their talks. Thanks for being so open in the comments, I think I'll skip this one then.
Honestly both documentaries r well made just Josh and Ryan just seem to repeat themselves a lot, the second documentary should have been talking about someone else other than Josh and Ryan just to give a more in depth view from a different perspective. But on the whole the documentaries were well directed and edited, well done!!
Ted talks, 2 documentaries, and 4 books where they say the same thing over and over. So much lost potential.
@@cassandralyne agreed!!
@Lucas M. Souza true
IT'S JOSH NOT JOHN
@Lucas M. Souza that's what happens when you repeat the same thing over and over again...
I love you Matt but the documentary was a let-down content wise. No real need for it as it doesn't add much then the first documentary. Get rid of Josh and Ryan - the doc should be about the movement not them. Gosh I need to reiterate that the cinematography was Great but damn - real let down.
Right? Man, I was so bored listening to them 😐.
This documentary is absolutely hypocritical and promotes self-help consumerism over an actually minimalist life style. This is a great step-in-the-door opportunity for Matt, and it makes sense why he would promote that and be proud of it. However, Ryan and John are just horrible community reps to make a documentary like this around.
@@masonc975 LOL, do you realise it's JOSH and Ryan, not John? 😅 What is the need for your negativity? Do you personally know those guys? Erm... no, you don't. So, does that give you the right to judge them? Oh, let me think....no, it doesn't.
@@aimeejane_writings That's such a shallow response, clearly written out of shear emotion. Do yourself a favor and get out your feelings because what he's saying actually makes a lot of sense. JOSH and Ryan come off as hackish cult leaders at this point. Have you seen both documentaries, as well as their books and TED Talks?
@@aimeejane_writings Why are you asking and answering your own questions for further emphasis on a point that’s not correct? Do you think we have to know someone personally in order to have opinions on what they produce and what they advocate for? For example, do you think that people aren’t allowed to speak negatively/criticize Donald Trump because we’ve never known him personally ? As public figures they’ve put their lives out there under a spotlight for us to perceive and I don’t think Mason’s criticism is negativity just to be negative. It’s foolish to think that all criticism is simply negativity that shouldn’t ever be voiced.
Ever wanted to find a perfect example of irony? Well here it is: The Minimalists having TWO documentaries.
With the exact same ideas and stories!
And a Ted talk, and a podcast, and books,...
They're being minimalists by using the same 5 sentences of content for a decade
This is why I turned off these two. They have duped the majority and have made minimilism, an age old way of being, a multi million dollar industry. A disgrace quite frankly and complete contradiction in MORE WAYS THAN ONE.
@@timshields8720 they introduce people to minimalism. They are not responsible for keeping people going as minimalists. They are not even making that much money. And even if they start making more, its literally our decision to feed them that attention.
"If your story doesn't change, then your not listening"
But Josh and Ryan keep repeating the same backstory lol
Lmfao
Milking that shit....lol
The second documentary is almost verbatim to the first one. Josh and Ryan tell the exact same stories.
Yeah I was really disappointed in the documentary tbh I wanted to support Matt and hopefully learn something i didn't know or just enjoy the stories from the people they interviewed but it wasn't what I was looking for ☹
well there’s not much to talk about. Minimalism is minimal in itself. They just want to keep spreading awareness for those who might need it.
@@_Sapph_ Had the same reaction. Thought it would be something new, but as someone who saw the first one and the continued on to the minimalists podcast, there was nothing new in this documentary.
Still watched it to support Matt but I was also disappointed. The visuals were beautiful at least.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@SuShiiAeLin there is a bit on The Office where Kevin starts baby talking to save time saying complete sentences. That could be minimalist language! Your comment reminded me of that bit. Me no agree. Documentary bad.
You’re a talented film maker...but you can tell the second one had no real idea or clear direction. I find it amazing that you had three chains of reviews each step of the way (including Netflix) and not one person said why are we repeating ourselves? Actually quite shocking to hear
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 sorry but this is not the same thing. An equivalent would be releasing a new album claiming its new content but it’s just their greatest hits.
@@seanrawlinson think about it, documentary 1 and documentary 2 share TWO things in common: 1) they are both DOCUMENTARIES. 2) they are both about the SAME TOPIC: MINIMALISM
so imagine you're an artist and you write 2 songs, they are 1) BOTH THE SAME GENRE and 2) BOTH ABOUT THE TOPIC OF LOVE
and then someone says u already wrote that song? pretty dumb thing to say, the melody is different, the rhythm is different, the lyrics are different, the genre and subject matter are obviously still the same but that doesn't make them the same thing.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Actually, people complain all the time about everything being written with the same four chords and all sounding the same
@@randomlongboardguy4163 ya now imagine the lyrics from song 1 or copy pasted on to song 2
Matt is a minimalist for everything except his biceps
and his vocabulary and videos
11:12 Really!? You see things, I don’t see!?!
A bicep maximalist
He got rid of all his stuff to make room for the ‘ceps
Hahahahahaha
Matt comes across as genuine and humble. Unfortunately the Minimalists come across very pretentious and inauthentic.
I would have loved a documentary about your journey with minimalism with actionable steps for getting rid of stuff. I did not enjoy the 60 minute creepy cult session with Josh and Ryan where they said the exact same stuff as the last documentary .
They are sooooo creepy! I wish they could switch places and we could watch Matt. That would be enough
Yeah, I enjoyed it, but Drew Gooden's vid really blew my mind about it all.
omg i felt like his youtube vids are better in my honest opinion. but it wasn't that bad
Your filmmaking was the star of this doc. The Minimalists backstory has had it’s run.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Bro
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Just listen to their podcast... Every episode is the same.
When I started to watch the film I was like wait I have seen this where's the new documentary? Sadly the document was pointless just repeating the same stories from Josh and Ryan that I have heard maybe four times already.. Too bad, I was waiting for an update from these guys or something new on them. It would have been a much better film if Matt had been in it with other minimalists. This could have been so much more but it was shot in an over dramatic way and the point was repetitive.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 omg dude you’re so pathetic copying and pasting the same reply into several threads. Stop shilling for this bullshit.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Actually it's kinda fun to find how many times you've copy pasted this wow
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Dude, stop copy paste under every comment, that’s annoying 🙄
@@randomlongboardguy4163 dear random dude, looks like you have taken a big bite of that cult cake. Have a good day! p.s. Please do name a songwriter who wrote the same song four times and called it new. No? Didn't think so bye...!
I'd rather watch a film about you. The 'minimalists' seem to think they are better than everyone else
100%. Matt makes minimalism approachable. Joshua and Ryan make it seem self important and cult-like.
@@incognitoimp5855 i had to stop listening to their podcast real quick. repetitive, pretentious, and definitely as you said, self important. i appreciated their episode on finances, and i think i've gotten all i can from them lol
I found the second documentary kinda of boring but the quality was good.
Same here.
Would've been great to interview people from different cultures. Native Americans already practice "take only what you need and use everything you take". Or explore roots of minimalism in Japanese culture. Maybe mention Marie Kondo? Let's stop pretending a couple of white guys invented this ideology.
It's almost exactly the same documentary as the first one .... Not that it wasn't good, it just felt like I was watching a remixed version of the first movie. A bit of a strange experience 🤨
It seems like you are being really hard on yourself, Minimalism was an excellent film. Maybe it didn't meet your vision because of inexperience and funding but I thought it was great! I find The Minimalists super repetitive so I have stopped consuming their content but I watched the new documentary to support YOU! I look forward to whatever film you might make next but I really hope it doesn't focus on Josh and Ryan anymore, perhaps they can be behind the scenes but still part of a team that pushes you to get the project completed.
Your always inspiring Matt, many if not all of your videos should be taught. Keep it up
Same here!
you’re
amazing.! started my journey with this ua-cam.com/video/7R83jLBFd6E/v-deo.html
Likes
Agreed :) The quality is amazing.
I love your abilities but that movie was so unnecessary when the Minimalism one exists. I’ve heard the Minimalist’s story repeated so many times already. They just keep repeating the same thing in different mediums over the years
Yeah because their purpose was and is to spread the idea, and no one is gonna dig up an old film to watch. As a minimalist myself, they were basically the people that introduced me to it. But they are not responsible for keeping me interested in minimalism. Because as a matter of fact, minimalism is minimal in itself.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Why are you under every single comment. Stop bootlicking. The reason people are complaining is because of the hypocrisy that comes with promoting MINIMALISM while at the same time mass producing the same content and overcharging for courses and patreon subs, so you can't compare it to a musician who sings the same song twice.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 but it’s not the same song sung twice, it’s the same song released under a different title
@@adhamh3665 "bootlicking" lmao found the 16 yr old angsty kid who just learned the word bootlicking and uses it out of context every chance he gets haha. u mad i'm making a point to people who totally missed the point of this doc bc they watched drew gooden's video? hahaha there is no hypocrisy man, think a little harder than just taking every everything u hear from youtubers who just mock others as gospel. they're not "mAsS pRoDuCiNg" anything lmao they made 2 movies, there's no conveyer belt mass producing anything, almost like u don't know what mass production even means. and it's like u don't even know the meaning of the word minimalism. u proly think minimalism means u can only own ONE shirt or one pair of underwear. lmao imagine someone saying you're not minimalist bc u have more than one underwear. see how dumb your argument is?
Please watch Drew Gooden’s video about this! So good and really addresses the issue with these guys only continuing to recycle the same material over and over and over.
They're minimalists after all
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 Telling the same story with the same characters is called a reboot and there is a reason why reboots usually flop.
@Dog Mutt hahaha, love your comment back to that!
@@randomlongboardguy4163 you've already said this. Now YOU sound repetitive and redundant.
And you also need to get past the whole minimalistic idea.. too much of something is always bad. Same happened with the doc,
1st one was great, 2nd absolutely pathetic.
You should watch Drew Gooden's video about your flim. He has some interesting things to say.
I kinda felt the Docu was just rehasing from the first movie and added little more to the first movie. Also the way The blond minimalist talks is like a kid in school reading a novel. I think it did not bring much to the table, it was no issue with the camera work or the way it was shot it was the narrative.
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 that argument makes 0 sense. If i make a song and sing it fine, but after 4 years if I make the same song, that makes no sense. The movie is bad objectively adds little to the minimalist movement and just expands a bit more the backstory, which we already knew if we read Joshs book. Still I see not how this movie adds to the minimalists?
@@NeoChromer "If i make a song and sing it fine, but after 4 years if I make the same song, that makes no sense." wtf are you even saying man, think about it, documentary 1 and documentary 2 share TWO things in common: 1) they are both DOCUMENTARIES. 2) they are both about the SAME TOPIC: MINIMALISM
so imagine you're an artist and you write 2 songs, they are 1) BOTH THE SAME GENRE and 2) BOTH ABOUT THE TOPIC OF LOVE
and then someone says u already wrote that song? pretty dumb thing to say, the melody is different, the rhythm is different, the lyrics are different, the genre and subject matter are obviously still the same but that doesn't make them the same thing.
but whatever none of this matters since when i read that you said that "The movie is bad objectively" i realized you're not thinking straight since a movie is art and art is subjective and the complete opposite of objectivity like math.
you also said it "adds little to the minimalist movement ", who said this movie was supposed to add to the minimalist movement? what if it's just trying to reach a larger audience? by the nature of what minimalism is, there isn't exactly a lot to expand on, it's about living with intentionality and not compulsively purchasing things bc we buy the lie that it'll make us happier in the longterm. minimalism is pretty straight forward as a concept so if they wanna make a second doc to reach more people and u complain that they're just repeating what they said in their book or first movie, you're totally missing the point. they proly made this movie to reach people who didn't read their book or watch their first doc.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 man you are on hell of a drug
@@randomlongboardguy4163 what is the point in spending so much time and money to make a docu which has the same message. two love songs from the same gerne give me two different experiences and different messages this docu just rehashed the same from the firat and did not extend on the existig docu ergo what was the point of the second docu that does the same from the same people i dont understand?
Just scrolling to see if anyone saw Drew Goodens video 😂
Love them both by the way:)
Unfortunately this shows the downsides to modern film making. The first version was a success, so Netflix basically signed you to remake the same film. The subjects weren't expansive characters, rather 2 guys with an audience to transfer over. The alternate intro at 17:05 was genuinely cutting and funny, but it didn't make the film because it wouldn't be mainstream enough. Ultimately, it ended up being a fantastically shot, well crafted, boring rerun. Like most films today.
That is incredibly heartbreaking now I wish I could see the original
I'm sorry but everything you just said is bogus. It has nothing to do with modern film making or mainstream. Films have been made this way for many years even before Netflix. And even if that weren't true, why is it such a downside? Getting your film picked up by a major streaming service is a bad thing??? They saw the potential and then granted the opportunity to create a beautiful film and help fulfill a vision on a much easier and grander scale. Do you know how many drafts a script goes through? How many screen tests are done before AND after a pitch? Do you know how many fantastic films on Netflix are born the same way Matt's was? Probably some of your favourite ones too. Every word that Matt spoke about how much the story changes in post-production is entirely true. And that skit/alternate intro was not serving the purpose they originally thought it would - he made the correct choice. Leave the film making to the film makers.
@@natecol9322 What I've said is objectively true, not just opinion. There are more sequels in modern filmmaking by far than in the past. Sequels are more likely to profit than original movies. Yes, films actually did used to be more innovative because investors have become better at predicting losses + have bigger budgets, which results in less risk. This is why Martin Scorsese called out Marvel. Rough drafts are normal, but the question is what's being asked of a rough draft? How it'd relate to the target audience, which is more expansive than ever, and more people are analyzing the rough draft from the supply side. The more teams analyze a film, the more it gets focus grouped, and the less risk taken by a smaller amount of people's unique vision.
@@natecol9322 Also I don't enjoy 90% of Netflix originals lmao, I canceled my subscription because they value quantity over quality. So not sure your point there. I don't think you get it. The storyline didn't change to follow the action. It was exactly like the remake. Watch Drew Gooden's "The Guy Who Turned Minimalism Into A Religion" critique of the film. I think you're just a fan of Matt's who doesn't realize the content here was very well done, flawless, low risk, and dry. All of those attributes can be together.
I actually love your content Matt, but maybe this film can be explored from a different point of view. If I only watched this video I would 100% watch your film, but after watching Drew Gooden's review I'd only watch it for the memes and laughs. My idea with this comment is not to criticise your film but rather some scenes that didn't make much sense. Everyone who sees this comment go watch Drew's review, you'll see what I mean with this.
This is so incredibly unaware it's hilarious. You're criticizing a movie you didn't watch. You just watched a video of someone else criticizing the movie. Can't even form your own opinions, must be sad.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 You must be one of the Josh and Ryan guys using a burner account, there's no way a randomer reply under every comment attacking people who didn't like the documentary.
@@randomlongboardguy4163 don't worry, I'll watch it and if I like it I'll say it right in this comment section. But i really appreciate drew gooden's reviews and he offers a great point of view that i won't doubt in trust
@@adhamh3665 Ah yes, the Internet in 2021, where disagreeing with someone is attacking them. By your logic you must one of drew gooden's guys using a burner account then? Lmao funny how u didn't even address my actual criticism with any sort of rebuttal but just said i was attacking someone 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@@yesitsmep drew is doing the lazy thing, he's just complaining and criticizing others for their efforts bc he woulda made a documentary differently. as far as i know drew doesn't have one, let alone two, documentaries streaming on Netflix. unfortunately negativity attracts views and clicks so that's why we have lots of roast youtubers like cody ko or h3h3. and drew's whole take is so stupidly narrow it's honestly depressing. When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one. drew probably thinks minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly he seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
This guy is a gift and we don‘t realize
We do realize.
Oh, but we do.
@@ariellopez8086 not all of us my dear
Indeed.
Hes incredible and inspirational
"There is no straight line to success" - no truer words said
and this is the lesson we should all take from it!
Keep going Matt! Hope you are safe and well in Oz.
Those two guys are pretty weird...and a lot of their documentary script is copied word-for-word from their TedTalk. I won’t be watching the doc, but I respect Matt’s production behind the scenes.
Yeah....don't bother....
Are you also watching this after the drew gooden video?
I just watched it yesterday. Didn't like it tbh. It was just the same old story again. Also the parts where the two dudes talk about their life and friendship are awkward. You could have easily put the film on your channel, I wouldn't exactly consider it Netflix worthy.
“Pants are optional” seems like the whole motto of Covid
Thanks for sharing BTS in an open and honest way. Definitely opened my eyes on what's possible for my own creative career. Thanks for sharing.
I would love to see a feature film on creativity soon.
Matthew!!
@@debdeepsen7387 that would be cool
Good on you bro, they just literally repeated this documentary 6 years ago and had the same ted talk say the same thing. I’m glad you were able to produce this product but pls don’t work with them again since they come off as grifters.
*‘if your story doesn’t change, you’re not listening’* that’s a great point
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks Matt, you're a great inspiration.
I love both of the films, but there is sth that annoys me a lot in the second film, and that it the poor and fake acting of Josh and Ryan. The second film was almost the same as the first one, with a bit more actings, so it would he better if you told us another story. Thanks for uploading on UA-cam as well, you’re the best.
I felt your first documentary was really good and relatable and it gave me a lot of inspiration and motivation, but as somebody who doesn't live in America I just couldn't relate to the second documentary as all the motivation of changing the "normal" ideals or goals was alien to me.
Where can I sign up for that Secret Cult? 😃
"A river cuts through a rock not because of its power but it's persistence!" 🙏
Make 2021 your year my friend. I believe in you! 💪
I'll be straightforward: I think you're better than this stereotyped niche. Josh and Ryan seem genuinely good guys but I find them insufferable with their hyperbasic approach to less is more. Like dude this is a wildly mainstream concept that I understood in third grade, your job is to make it compelling or to dig deeper. Unfortunately the doc falls short on both ends.
BTW I know the point of this video was sharing insights about the process and not really about the doc itself, and I found it very cool.
Learning how to be a minimalist would’ve been really cool instead of learning how the subjects of the documentary feel about being minimalists. This is just my opinion though.
As someone who edits on their laptop in their bedroom, this gives me hope. Even though you may never read this, you inspire me to make better videos everyday. So thanks Matt ✊
Can you hire someone to pitch a script, or help you sell it? It's a true Story, About Evel Knievel's Body Guard.
Gene could be famous for several things that have been written in a Hollywood movie. He was a motorcycle jumper, heavy weight boxer & more. Gene's father is the subject of THE ODD COUPLE movie. His real Father is Ernie Nevers. Who has fame in 3 Professional Sports. He invented the hook shot; Pitched to Babe Ruth; Saved the NFL & has the oldest 4 NFL records. Ernie was a first inductee to the NFL Hall of Fame. George Clooney made a movie; Leatherheads about him. Gene's GREATEST privilege is about the lives he has saved, even famous people. Just by an inspired thought that came into his head... instead of using his fists. His fists that were going to fight Ali, Joe Frazier, George Formen, and the heavy weights of His day, before Rocky Marciano died in a plane crash. He even had a thought come into his head when he invented the first Skido, and did a stunt in San Francisco. He sent the blue prints to Honda and Kawasaki with no patent. But that voice in his head said "undo your helmet strap", and it kept his head on his body to respond. The movie script starts with his famed WW2 Command Bomber Pilot mother, buzzing him and his brother in a Crop Dusting Plane, bombing them with toilet paper rolls. Gene was the longest touring motorcycle jumper in the world, flying a bike through flames of fire, when there were only 5 motorcycle stuntmen in the world. He's highly regarded in the stunt world. You can watch him speaking to a King, or doing Evel Kneivels Funeral on our channel. Thanks for your advice. Ceci
You don't have to tell this story at the beginning, you've already done it twice... C'mon I love minimalism but I cannot stand these guys anymore, how can you spend 10 years of your life telling the same story of your life?! That's insane and unnecessary.
I love you Matt and I think the documentary looks amazing, as in lightning and is very well directed, but I would love to see you tell your story too.
strange how i follow both you and Drew, who got creeped out and dropped the "cult" word, maybe that's not strange, thats the internet
Matt I really like your videos, this is coming from the heart and in no way trying to attack you at all. You do see the hypocrisy here right?
I mean the message of "we are fighting consumerism with minimalism" kind of gets lost when it depends on the
mass consumption of a product. It feels dishonest. I recommend to focus your immense talent and energy on another project, you said all you needed to say on the matter in the first documentary. Your fans will be there don't worry.
Matt, your youtube content is way more helpful than the advice the minimalists give in the second netflix film. I recommend your videos to people all the time as they cover valuable health and finance topics on top of different approaches to minimalism. The second doc was the same information recycled which is basically the fault of Ryan and Josh preached the same washed out material. I think you created the sequel with Ryan and Josh's audience in mind without realizing your youtube audience would have supported the film with your original content.
The fact that he made "Minimalism" after only making 3-5 mis vid exclusively shows just how talented and stylistic Matt is as a film maker. 50% of the reason I watch Matt in the first place is for his cinematography. Congrats Matt!
I bet when you watch him for the first time and you hear: “join a cult” you will scratch your head and wonder if it’s true😂🙌🏼
Matt's next Netflix Special: "My Biceps and Me: A Documentary"
It was a great documentary, Matt. You should be proud. I'm proud of you.
Actually it was crap.
Yes. I really liked the esthetics and editing but story was just THE SAME as it was in first movie.
It was more about guys of The minimalists rather than the concept itself. Sorry but it's true.
It's only my opinion though.
I didn’t like it
Pretty much everyone hated it lol
@@DawidDgk Well tbh the title says The minimalists
@@danielc5647 ikr, but it's just THE SAME stuff
Matt D’Avella the GOAT
THIS actually helped me a lot! I am currently cutting my first short movie and I feel so frustrated and lost! So thank you for reminding me that it's normal and that I just need to keep on swimming
as you said that opener would have been pretty cool for the people who already know the minimalists and maybe would have made the movie a little more interesting for returnig viewers but the final product ends up feeling a bit shallow, there is absolutly nothing new for those people, the message is exactly the same almost word by word, so a little comedy would've been nice
"Film". I love your youtube content. But that "Film" is really just a long form advertisement.
The interviews with the experts were great. But Josh's overly dramatic preaching style wasn't my cup of tea.
Man an $80000 budget sounds less compared to other Netflix projects but when your only experience is on UA-cam, it is a huge amount of money.
Crazy that they had a budget that high for a film that essentially remakes the first one.
Honestly Matt's direction was great but Josh and Ryan's story is very repetitive from their Ted Talks and the first film, and I wished we could hear from other minimalists or Matt's own point of view. Matt I want to see you make more movies but please no more with the Minimalists.
I'd love to see Matt have Gabe Bult on.
Your work ethic is really amazing Matt. You truly are an inspiration
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Matt, I'm a fan of the first minimalist. But the second, not so much. It's not because a bad directing, but it's because it literally have the same essence as before. So I'm sorry for the bad review.
Excellent insights Matt! Stoked to check out your next big project, whatever that may be 👊
I guess it's time to open a church now, cuz it's the only way for these guys to continue repeating the same thing over and over and over again. Love your work and your vids Matt but IMO this docu 2.0 was definitely redundant.
I was also slightly disappointed. Shot and edited beautifully but trying to resuscitate an old story. You will now just have to redeem yourself with a third one, focusing on your own story.
A beautiful story of resilience!
Personally I think Matt should be the lead in these projects. He’s way more charismatic than both Josh and Ryan and he’s not at all cringe.
Loved watching this, I have always been enticed by documentaries and find it fascinating seeing your process and progress with a minimal team. I look forward to checking out the second doc as I haven't yet watched it.
Instructions unclear, now I haven't worn pants for the last two weeks...
I love both of your documentaries, you are such a great artist.
The number one video I've been waiting for (from you) ❤😭😭😭
Same!
Congrats on the doc, Matt - great to hear about your experience with it! Thanks for sharing
Ive started living healthier and Matt has a huge role in it
The new film was a retred of what you did for your first film. You really should have picked other minimalists to cover. There also should have been more actionable things talked about for a person to do to become a minimalists. Ex: I have trouble with buying stuff when I am sad how do I deal with that. Also maybe talk to people of color and there relationship with stuff.
your storytelling skills are *unmatched*
I’m not gonna say anything new in this comment that someone else hasn’t touched on but this documentary is not worth the time. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt but at this point the two guys that The documentary focuses on are at best one trick ponies and at worst a bunch of conman. If you expect to learn something from it like you would for Matt’s videos you’re in for a rude awakening. All of the content that is in the documentary can be seen either in their first documentary, or on their multiple TEDTalks that are available on UA-cam. It retreads all the same ground. I’m glad Matt is getting work and the recognition of a filmmaker but this is not worth anyone’s time.
The general audience rarely takes a moment to consider the enormous amount of effort and resources required to produce, direct, and distribute a film. When a film is effective, its images seem to be woven together seamlessly... effortlessly. Matt D’Avella, congratulations on a job well done. For this gargantuan effort (and resulting piece of art), you deserve fame and fanfare... and more. ✨
Summary of the movie from comments: Bad, boring, nothing new. Could you stop promoting it? It is funny when everybody agrees it is bad and you still continue.
this dude saved me from depression and got me to get into my dream school, you deserve it
I just want to reiterate what seems to be a common trend in the comments. Once again, the documentary was beautifully edited and made like all your content. That is a testament to your talent and creative skills. I loved the everyday minimalists segments of the doc and the interviews with the experts. But we have heard ryan and joshs' story and it felt like a repeat. Keep doing your thing, Matt. You are great at what you do, you are very inspirational.
I love you Matt but the documentary was pretty awful.
8 Million dollar budget?
Where did it all go? Its literally the same 2 guys repeating the same words from their documentary from a couple years ago and their UA-cam videos.
If anyone disagrees please look up Drew Goorden's video on this he explains it very well and the irony in the documentary.
2 rich white privileged males with luxury condos ,driving their luxury sports car, making a ridiculous amount of money, and putting out the same documentary as the one before all while preaching minimalism is ironic to me.
I couldn't finish the second documentary. Josh and Ryan are cringy and boring. Well shot tho and YOUR story, matt, is impressive.
It’s like every video is a documentary
Don’t get me wrong bro, I love your YTchannel and your vids, but the Minimalism Film succcccked. It was so bad I had to quit halfway.
It was about time, Matt. You are great!
Matt, please talk on how you make your creative career sustainable (without having to work and full-time/part time job). What are your sources, how you manage time for it, etc. Please 🙏
Because it's the same documentary republished again.
Honestly Matt the cinematography was beautiful, you are an artist and I cannot wait for your next creation, but I agree with lots of commenters here, I think the main story was weak and never curved, not at all on your part so much as Josh's dialogue seemed really forced and overdramatised. I kept thinking I wish it was just more candid rather than first person, telling it as if they are experts. I love if they got interviewed amongst a general minimalism story about society, one perspective on a movement.
Maybe it was just because we follow you here so we 'know' about minimalism already, but nothing really made me think differently, whereas this YT channel is always so insightful! especially your own experiments and the podcast guests.
Either way, thank you so much for sharing this video about how it all came together, it is invaluable for a young filmmaker to see the realities and failed attempts and just the whole process. Also, I love your points at the end about being open to moving the story in the edit away from how it was shot or how you initially anticipated it should go, thanks for being so honest about your own dilemma regarding the structure.
Thank you Matt.
I loved to First film you made vary inspiring but man. That second documentary was the exact same movie! it was like watching the same thing twice.. sorted disappointing 👎
First one was great. Couldn’t even get through the second. Far from genuine, repetitive, pointless.... Disappointing considering the success of the first.
*how it should have went*
Netflix: Why do you think we should start including your film?
Matt: *being Matt and blinks once*
Netflix: SOLD
I actually thought the middle-manager sketch was pretty funny. I'm sorry it got cut 😕
To the person who is reading this:
You’re amazing stay blessed, stay safe and have an amazing rest of your day!✨
u too
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Wow Matt. Thanks for taking the time to share all this, with honesty and humility. Really inspiring and insightful to me as a young filmmaker
"Sacrificing your first born child and joining a secret cult".... wait you guys are getting paid?
The jump in video and storytelling quality from 2018 to now is so insane! Most evident in the cut at 13:06
Josh and Ryan are true minimalists by milking the same 5 lines of content for a decade
When a musician writes a song, no one complains when that musician sings that song twice at two different concerts. But when Josh and Ryan want to tell their story more than once, whether in a movie, ted talk, or another movie, people crucify them for it? Such a narrow minded view to have. No one said Less is Now was a sequel to 2015’s Minimalism Doc. They told their story in their 2015 Doc. It reached some people but they felt like their story was worth telling again hopefully reaching more people this time around. The two movies are different, however the core of the movie, Josh and Ryan’s story, remains unchanged. There is no problem with this, anyone who finds issue with this is really just reaching and TRYING to find a problem where really there isn’t one.
And saying that having two documentaries centered on the same premise is ironic since their story is about minimalism is tragically missing the entire point of minimalism. That's the same line of thinking of people that think minimalism is about only owning one of everything. Sadly you seemed to have entirely missed the point of minimalism and of the doc. But then again, it's so much easier to just anonymously complain and criticize someone else's efforts and accomplishments behind a keyboard than to apply yourself and put something good into the world. Way to be mediocre.
Music is NOT a Netflix documentary. Your argument has so many fallacies and illogical material that I felt sick after reading it. Stop defending it, kindly.
My whole (extended) family watched your film and loved it. Well done again!