The Highlander Life - Front Door Acoustic Treatment
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2019
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Today on The Highlander Life, I install Butyl acoustic door treatment to deaden the thin and noisy sounding front doors on my 2017 Highlander XLT. This made such a HUGE change to the sound and feel of the door. Let me know if you did this in the comments section below.
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By now I’m sure youve figured out that the opening for the front speakers aren’t traditional 6x9’s. Have you changed the speakers yet? Im curious to see what youve got in there now.
Hey John, I haven't changed them out yet... So I assume I'll need to use an adapter even for 6x9 right? Have you changed these yourself? Did you find something you like?
Dan Holt when i first got the highlander, i bought some nice rockford fosgate 6x9s but lo and behold they didnt fit. The cutout is obnoxiously huge. I believe theres a company called Focal that makes speakers for toyota but they were about $300 a piece! After many purchases of adapters from amazon and ebay, I ended up making my own with some 1/8 thick 8x12 plastic sheets i bought on ebay. Turned out nice. I ended up just putting Pioneer 6.5 2 ways instead of the fosgates. Sounds good since I have an amp pushing them. Be forewarned, I have yet to see any adapters that fit our HL.
@@johnobina8092, that sounds like challenge to me.... A problem to solve... Challenge accepted! ;-)
Dan Holt the adapters that i made really seem better quality than the prefab ones. I only wish i had a jigsaw but my dremel worked out fine. I put some baffles behind the speakers and sealed just about every nook so the sound is nice and tight. I prob wasted $80-$100 on adapters before i made my own, and frankly, it was more satisfying. Good luck with yours!
Dan Holt I would suggest using a metra speaker adapter as they would make a 6x9 fit in your car
I started following your videos and now I have a whole summer's worth of things to do :) thank you for making these so easy to follow.
Haha, that's awesome! Have fun with all of these mods! Let me know how it turns out.
Great video in showing us slowly how to access the metal from the inside of the door. So thank you!
However, and after much research, I am starting believe that we don’t really need to cover the entire door, floor, trunk/hatch, ceiling with butyl sheets. STEP1- Just evenly spaced small pieces will do to absorb the reverberations and prevent rattle (this way we can use 1-2 boxes for the whole SUV) Then STEP 2- Get the Second Skin treated OPEN foam roll and peel & stick, then the closed Foam on top of that. Then STEP 3- peel and stick the MLV (MASS LOADED VINYL) It may/not come attached to a foam layer of its own, but that REALLY is the sound blocker. The first 2 steps are for sound deadening/dampening and absorption respectively. Also the foam & vinyl are great insulators for heat & cold. Couple that with an IR blocking tints (3M crystaline, Spectra etc) and you have a luxury $1500 upgrade.
Is it worth it? NO, but will it make your highlander feel like a MayBach? Possibly and you’ll be happier for sure.
Cons:
1- Expensive
2- DIY is 1week 10 hours/day time consuming, effort, cuts sweat & bruises, risk of damage to trim and or electronics etc. The last sentence should be a point on its own
3- what if you sell/crash the car
4- wind & outside noise may still leak in the cabin through Windows especially Pano Roofs, so unless it’s a new car, buy OEM weatherstripping. It does not eliminate 100% of sound, but it softens the blow.
5- Nervous about losing touch with your car, it talks to you through sound much like the body through pain, sound deadening, absorption and blockage is like taking pain killers. They only mask the problem-if there is any.
I’m still contemplating doing this despite all the CONS. Any advice? I’m in Ontario Canada BTW
Thanks for your detailed comments here. My concern with any approach that doesn't fully coat the inside is the chance for moisture pockets to form as water gets to the inside of the door. If there are pockets, you could hold water which would cause rust to form on the inside of the door.
@@DansWay Agreed, but that’s why you use the spray. Anti Corrosion, rust-proof (or rust preventive qualities), sound deadening adhesive. It’s basically liquified Mass Loaded Vinyl that you’d spray any ways in all the nooks, crannies, and hard to reach spaces. I believe Second Skin sells theirs in a gallon called ‘Spectrum’ which you’ll need a spray gun to apply evenly as if you’re painting or applying clear coat. Another company sells it in a green can (non smelly) spray bottle (big nozzle to allow the semi-solid particles to evenly leave the can and disperse.)
I like the recycling bin behind the seat.
Thanks for the assuring ideas. I want to do that improvement to my Hilander. I will wrap some material around the steel bar to help cancel the metal vibration. My speakers vibrate, too. I want to adventure into adding sound deadening on the ceiling because it is very noisy when it rains hard. I still get wind noise through the windows because they are thin. Lexus gets less window noise because they use a thicker window glass. I will be saving for a future Lexus.
Step 1: Disconnect battery.
Step 2: Grow one finger nail…. 😉
But seriously, great video 👍 showed me everything I needed to know before I attempt it. Thank you 🙏
Haha, awesome! Let us know how it turns out…
14:01 That's a good idea for optimal sound.
You know they sell DEADENING SPRAY and 3 Foam rings spesker enhancer which I have used and are AWESOME.
True, but nothing beats the shear weight of this material to resist movement (sound). The spray would need to be inches thick to come close to this material.
Hey Dan, great video. You mention how it's important to disable the airbags when doing this kind of work, but I couldn't find where you explain how to disable the side and curtain airbag. Could you please explain how this is done? Thanks so much!
Just disconnect the battery for 5 minutes before working on the door and you should be good.
Thanks for the instructive video! Did you notice any difference in the car while driving? Is the interior quieter? Do the speakers sound better?
All I can say is that it is very difficult to do a true A.B. comparison when you spent an entire day installing the material. I can say the speakers sound a bit different, better. Quieter? That’s difficult to say because for me I seem to hear more road/wind sounds through the glass than through the doors. The improvement to the sound of the doors shutting means as much to me as these other things.
Hi Dan! Thank you very much for this video . I’ve bought 6*9 speakers for front doors and yes... they won’t fit without adapter. Now
I can’t even find the right one for it 😞 Have you changed front speakers yet ?
I have not, but I was told by someone else that the Metra brand for the Camry does fit. This is the link: amzn.to/35QCVYC
Don't forget to grab the speaker wiring adaptors: amzn.to/2HSLPfG
Let me know if you try this and it works. Perhaps I should get it myself to be sure...
The Ozzy version, though built in the USA, does not have the airbag sensors on the doors... there is a welded sensor holder there though.
Thanks for the info! I love hearing about slight differences in different countries.
Dan.. What are the exact speakers and size for the highlander rear door itself? Not the front or side doors... Thanks
Looks like you need a bracket like this to get to a 'normal' 8" sub speaker outline: amzn.to/3pvUpqB
I love how you teach me to destroy my 2021 highxpensive xle😂😂😂🤣😂🤣
Leave a 1/4 inch strip of plastic around the edges to allow them to slide without the edges sticking as you positioned it?
That could work, but I'd worry about the possibility of moisture getting stuck between the two causing rust. It doesn't stick that much, so just slide it around and you can get it positioned. Just takes a bit of practice. Thanks for the comment!
Hi Dan, did you replace the front speakers as well? If so, what size were they? What could they be upgraded to without ordering additional hardware to fit.
Faisal Khan I have yet to replace them. I j is Crutchfield has adaptors to get you what ever size you ultimately need. They work fine as I found in the rear speaker video. The rear were the ones that sounded the worse by far. I’ll eventually do the front as well. You can’t put anything ‘standard’ in there as is.
Dan Holt i had the same problem with the abnormal mounting space and found out that the camry 6x9 kit fits perfectly unlike the highlander ones. i purchased the metra 82-8149 kit
Hi Dan, I am in Australia and am planning to do this to my Kluger (Highlander in Australia).
How much do I need to buy? As in sq inches?
I am asking cause this stuff is not shipped free.
I used a box and a half of the sheets found in the link above for two of the four doors... I used multiple layers on the mid-sections, so you might be able to stretch it out a bit, but you would likely need three boxes total to do all four doors.
Dan Holt thanks for your prompt response. I just ordered some 2.5mm butyl deadening. That’s why 100mil equivalent. Thinking of getting some speakers too but the front one looks funny for 6x9’s.
Since I am a cheap stingy penny saver, I just want something that would be a direct fit rather than a kit with 6x9. Then again I may just live with this system!
Hey Dan Hope you are doing well during these crazy times!
This past weekend, I decided to rent a pair of "strap-on balls" and decided to tear up the doors on my Highlander. Seemed scary cause I did not want to damage the window mechanism like i have done once long ago... But turned out to be very easy.
And what a difference....
Now to the speakers, what size are you using on the front doors? Any mounting kits you recommed?
Faisal Khan if you look in the comments someone found a mounting kit they like that was meant for a different car but they said it worked. I have not tried it yet.
@FaisalKhan, Have you done this yet? Did it work out?
@@DansWay no. The sound quality just got so much better after the sound proofing the doors.
I listen more to talk radio than music so I guess factory default will do b
Will spray foam help with sound deadening and be much easier to do?
It would add some slight deadening from outside sound, but it doesn’t have the heavy mass that this material adds which helps to stiffen the door-skin. You could try a door and see?
Dan, After thinking more about it I realized that any foam injection would block the movement of the glass window. It would take a hurculean effort to keep the foam from blocking the vertical movement of the window. We have a Highlander which we love but the road noise is unusually high for a Toyota. Thanks for your quick reply and your videos! Keep up the great work!
I ordered too much of this butyle (2.5~3mm thickness) I did all four doors and have over 60% of the sheets left. Will be doing the bonnet and the trunk lid next... It is heavy though
Faisal Khan I haven’t thought about doing this myself. Perhaps you could do another spot like under the floor? Fenders inside?
@@DansWay underfloor, no way! too much work and I like a little engine and road noise...
Fenders can definitely use some, do you recon there is a way to get to them thru the wheel wells? I'd like to do it without actually taking the fenders off as I have skinny hands that can get places easily..
Thinking of doing my wife's Toyota Aurion (not sure what they call them in the US) but that car was driven about 2000 kms in the last year and mostly by me... sometimes I wonder WHY do I buy stuff??
Was there a noticeable difference in the level of road noise while driving?
I can't say it really made a difference that was striking. Most road noise isn't coming directly through the doors. The doors just feel nice and solid, and the sound of the low end is a bit better.
Very noticable... the drum like THUMP noise is gone... I used to own a 2014 E300 AMG, now my door sound just like it... A solid THUD, rather than a THUMP.
I have a 2010 highlander Base and my doors sound just like your "after" treatment. Toyota might have gone cheaper in the newer models.
Yah, absolutely. One way to shed weight, but it definitely makes it sound cheap. Next time I’m next to a prior gen version I’ll try the knock test to hear the difference myself.
@@DansWay Yes, and my front speakers also are 6x9 which makes more sense. See pictures in crutchfield:
www.crutchfield.com/car/outfitmycar/mycar.aspx
Fiberglass, foam, wool or denim insulations from Home Depot would do the same. Those would be easier to install and cheaper. Your fancy sheets would be better for hood.
I would suggest that the weight of this material makes the doors feel and sound solid which is as important as the sound improvement in my book.
@@DansWay ...and what makes you say that? You said those were ~3lbs. If I put 6lbs of weight in my door would that make it better? 10lbs even better? I dont think so. Why not fill your other door with the insulation you would use on your attic? Thick and dense ones. If you are crazy about weights you can add some magnets for weight and it wouldnt move, no drilling needed.
And if these products were part of a biz deal, sponsorship, amazon partnership etc then I have nothing to say other then simply unsubscribing :)
FYI, I’m not sponsored by anyone. I bought this material for my own use and made a video. The Amazon link in the description is an affiliate link which gets me a small thank-you from Amazon for referring you to them to purchase the product. Take my video for what it’s worth to you knowing that I believe that butyl tape is a great solution to several of the problems with the Highlander namely thin oil-can sounding doors, road noise. and poor speaker sound.
@@DansWay affiliate = thank you? Sure... you only have 1200 subscribers. Your video views are not great either. Seems like you started too early to milk. I dont think you make much money. Anyways... I checked your other videos too and got confused. I am out 👋
Knock don’t tap
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