Egal is completely clueless about the severity of Saka’s injury. Theres a huge chance he won’t ever get back to his previous form. Just look at Ansu Fati, he’s been nowhere near what he was before his injury and he obviously would have had the best advice and treatment there is.
@@1972dsraifati was a serious knee injury from when he was 15 at one point thet didn't think fati would have a football career ,its nothing like Saka situation, most likely Saka will play less games and have more recovery time between matches, Arsenal won't be able to use Saka in every game like they do know
Arteta is making the players play through injury and it’s caught up to him. I remember there was a game back in 2020 and Arsenal played Tottenham, Thomas Partey was trying to signal that he couldn’t play anymore, and Arteta was pushing him on the pitch trying to make him play. Making Declan rice play with Broken toes.
@@dr.odongrjustin9331you've missed the point. You don't have to be a physician to see that players are not handled well under Arteta. Saka is human and should not have played the amount of minutes/games he did.
Yeah but people like him are happy living in a historically Christian nation . If our culture offends then surely it would be better to go to an islamic country
@@isfbuster6733funny how this"Canadian" goes from living in Toronto to living in London. Why not live in Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Saudi? They love all the freedoms Christian nations give them while simultaneously spitting in their faces. Most ungrateful group of people in the world, bar none!
Muslims don’t celebrate Christmas so I can understand why some criticised Salah, but I agree he went too far in saying anything about Christianity. Salah chose to do it knowing he’d get flak for it.
Caling Christianity a pagan religion is laughable when the Quran "Confirms" the previous scriptures such as the Torah and Gospels, they literally kiss and worship a black stone in the middle of mecca.
Damn as an LFC fan Lee enlightening me to the deeper issues Saka faces.... I used to wonder why Saka always limped at end of games. That's honestly kinda sad icl
Lee is spitting FACTS THO even tho most of our fan base don’t like him BUT honestly MIKEL is literally gotta ruin Bukayo Saka career like Owen, Hazard, ,Neymar etc
Hazard was a lot different, to be fair. He didn't really train hard and subsequently got injured! He didn't try and keep fit whilst out injured, and his body just couldn't cope when he returned!
@@superflyjimmysnucka9068 he played loads of football by the age of 24 though, there is a graph that shows minutes played by certain players by the age of 24. It's a long list and hazard is at the top of it
Egal is totally deluded about Saka’s injury. Just look at Ansu Fati who suffered the same tear. Its hard to fully recover from and as a winger Saka might have to change his game and maybe even position.
@1972dsrai He has no clue how serious it is. That's the problem with him he always wants to be looked on as a positive fan (Top Gooner) and not have his true feelings
@@ryanrei what a load of BS. Players are different, they react to injury differently. Saying that Saka’s career is done to suit his rubbish agenda is disgraceful. Did he have the same energy when Timber did his ACL (also Arteta’s fault I presume?) and was out best part of year out to return as a world beater this year. “Different injury” - how many careers have been ruined by ACL? Hamstring tear is bad but players do recover these days with the amount if new science and recovery methods these days. Saka’s game is not based on sheer pace - it’s based on balance and perfect use of body weight when carrying the ball and turning players. He’ll be fine. So bored with these ignorant and biased analyses.
Lee is not keeping the pressure on nobody...Lee is a fan like every individual and has no God given right to force people to not have their own opinions. He is not a better supporter than anyone whether they have been supporting Arsenal from the 90s (as i have) or just started in 2024..he is entitled to his viewpoints and how he sees the club and other supporters are entitled to theirs
Some people love his negativity because that's how they role in life, while others are optimistic and then there are those who are in-between. In the end every one has the right to support the club however they want.
GRADE 3 HAMSTRING, WHEN PLAYERS HAVE SURGERY ARE NEVER THE SAME, BECAUSE THEY PLAYER SUB CONSCIOUSLY IS WORRIED ABOUT IT TEARING AGAIN, SO THEY NEVER GO FULL SPEED
Lee Gunner speaking facts here. It's very sad what's happened to Saka. Whether or not Saka ever gets back to his best, you should never run a player into the ground. I hope Arteta will strengthen the attack and manage the players better with regular rotation.
You don’t anything about physiotherapy stop talking nonsense. Injuries are mostly random, Reiss Nelson cooked his hamstring at Fulham and he barely plays in recent years
Lee is spot on about these injuries to young players. No one is talking about Pedri and Gavi. They are both shadows of what they were 2 years ago because they've been over played and mismanaged
What nonsense planet are you living in 😂 pedri is still considered one of the best if not the best midfielder currently. Literally everyone talks about pedri .. Gavi is different because he just came back
@@GuesswhereIsMe Gotze, Ousmane Dembele, Wilshere, Ansu Fati. The list is endless. Even look at Kobbie Mainoo and Lewis Miley (the Newcastle lad), after all the football they played last season, they can't seem to get a break from injuries this season.
@@smaugballer7337 Ya as soon as they look like they can jog again they all get thrown back into the team straight away. Potch was doing this with Reece James last season and now he's done for
On this olise hamstring injury point olise doesn’t rely on pace and explosiveness he’s a high iq player so it’s easier for him to adapt after suffering a hamstring injury
Saka’s injury is serious and he probably won’t be back until next season if Arteta has any sense. Its not an injury you can rush players back from. It could seriously affect his game when he does come back. Just look at Ansu Fati. His injury was just as severe as Saka’s and he’s not been the same player since he came back. Saka will probably have to change his game and probably won’t be beating defenders for fun as he was before the injury.
If you overplay a player....he will break down...Arteta makes the players play with broken toes, he makes them come back from injury early and play a full 90 minutes....he just wants to win the game without concern for the players long term physical fitness and career....he is selfish and clueless
Also it wasn't grade 3, and it still took 6 months for him to recover, and then he immediately strained it again. In a team that doesn't play anywhere near as many games as Arsenal.
It doesn't matter what Arteta did with Saka, Lee would complain. If he rests him, he would moan if he plays him he moans hes overplayed, i never hear Liverpool fans moaning Salah has been overplayed and he been played near enough 50 games every season. Fact is Lee dont like Mikel because he rejected him for a photo. Having the audacity to say you speak facts when you say Welbeck is better than salah and Savio is better than Saka.
I like egal but he really does not want to hear the truth I said this to my arsenal mate a Yr and a half ago that saka is being over played and he will will be fecked with injuries after a certain point
He’s also clueless and being very optimistic about Saka coming back just as good as he was. Theres a strong chance he might have to change his game as a result and might not beat defenders for fun as he was. Just look at Ansu Fati. He still doesn’t fully trust his body and its seriously affected his form as a result. Some players struggle to adapt and as a winger Saka might even have to play in a different position where he doesn’t need to rely on his burst of pace.
lee is spot on arteta has had ample chances to sign cover for saka but chooses not too, i see this coming ages ago its insane the amount of games the lad has played over the last 3 seasons.
Yeah cos saka selects himself for the lineup every game for years straight right 🤦♂️ get your head out of your arse and dispute what hes saying if you actually disagree
Just look at Ansu Fati. Players sometimes struggle to fully trust their bodies after sn injury like this. I think Saka will have to change his game and possibly even position to somewhere where his burst of pace isn’t required so much.
Believing there are better wingers out there doesn't mean you dont believe saka carries this team offensively. Its all relative. If the other forwards werent shit, sakas contribution could be viewed differently. There are always potential upgrades or competition for positions.
Because he’s been overplayed ever since he broke through and the club have done nothing to sign a back up and give him rest in the least important games and taking him off when the games done
You only watch what you consider to be "ragebait", hence why you think this. Win or lose, the fella gets views. Broaden your perspective and you might feel different.
You may have your reservations when it comes to Lee, but on the Saka injury comment, he is speaking facts. Saka has the worst hamstring injury of the lot. Surgery is rare when it comes to hamstring injuries, but with a Grade 3, you need surgery as the hamstring is literally pulled away from the bone. We are talking about a career ending injury back in the day. Now, there have been vast improvements in medical and sports science, so the chances of Saka recovering and going on to play footie again is on the high side. However, with this type of injury, players often don't recover fully. Most times, players with Grade 3 have to modify their game for fear of a recurrence. What this means is that Saka may never be able to display that explosive bust of speed that he's known for. This is not because he can not or would not, but because if he does, he increases his risk of a recurrence that could effectively end his career. He may, therefore, need to move into the middle and play as a 10 or something of that nature. There are also things worth considering when it comes to hamstring injuries, things like game time, diet, recovery, and genetics. Some players are born with great genetics like Salah, who seems to play every minute of every game, but hardly picks up a hamstring injury even though he runs at full pelt most times. If Saka has "great genetics," he could recover fully and still be that explosive player he's always been. Nevertheless, his game time, diet and recovery amongst others, will need to be reviewed by the club going forward, as once you’ve gone under the knife, you're not just the same physically and mentally afterward.
The blame has to be shared between arteta edu and the ownership. Its not all artetas fault but he has to take a good deal of the blame. Because saka has been so reliable so far there has been no immediate incentive to compliment him with other wide forwards and no one at the club had the foresight to see this becoming a problem. Lee and egal are cringe but lee is right in this situation. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day
Not an Assana fan. But need the daily dose of the Truth according to Lee "Get slapped in the face with a big wet fish, and falling flat on your face, with egg on your face!" Gunner. I wish Lee, Rants, Flying Pig and Expressions would do a watch along. What a show.
‘For the love of the club’..: type in LG Comedy. Lee has an agenda against Mikel because he didn’t have time to take a picture outside of Colney. I’d take any arsenal fans opinion on Arsenal and respect it but not Lee
All the fans that support him are the ones on the other side of the world, which ironically are the fans he racially profiled on X. Him and his followers are a strange bunch.
@ so true. Going to the Swan or Tollington on match days you very rarely get fans that want him out. It might get there soon if we don’t start winning but no honest fan is against Arteta, especially when he’s had a great year in the prem
Saka is gonna get the rooney treatment. Fading at late 20’s. Difference is rooney had the skill set to play second striker then lost more legs & played the 10. Saka unfortunately isn’t built like that.
The difference between Arsenal and Liverpool is Arsenal dropping 8 points from winning positions in the second half against Manchester City, Brighton, Liverpool and Chelsea. Not to mention there were three sending offs in three of the four games mentioned. That said, I doubt that Arteta can carry us over the finish line. He isn't a good enough manager yet at this point in his career. We need to upgrade manager more so than the players.
Lee Gunner and the people that idolise him are a certain kind of person. The guy is an arrogant know it all, that is massively bitter of more successful fan channels, so constantly brings them up any opportunity he gets. In physically demanding sport, injury can happen at any point. Timber tore his acl in our first game of the season last season against forest, was that Arteta's fault?. The guy has waaay too much hate for a man he doesn't know, and all his manson cult like followers think that not saying anything positive about the manager or players ever, makes them some sort of elite fan with "high standards". Genuinely pathetic.
@rohithraman6488 I understand criticism of the manager, the owners, all of it, because I do think Arteta has made some big mistakes, like the havertz signing, not properly addressing the attack, selecting the wrong subs/lineup which has cost us valuable points. I'm actually someone who believes if Arteta doesn't win a trophy this season, he should possibly be relieved of his duties, but I'm also a man that knows how to be a proper man, and can be honest enough to be honest in my assessment of things, so I won't sit here and make out that everything arteta has done and does is bad, and I won't make out certain players who are clearly very talented such as ødegaard, are s**t and a disgrace, which Lee tries to claim. He's embarrassing.
Egal is a great example of a certain type of fan that will mock & imply ‘ 500 years ago’ when talking about football over the last 30 years but will brag and live off successes from that same era
Arsenal should have bought a right winger to rotate with Saka throughout the season. The real problem is Arteta has created an expensive A squad where the quality of the players is more important than the system and tactics.
Lee is right about young, English players being overplayed-Owen, Rooney now Saka. The difference with Owen and Rooney is that both won multiple domestic and European trophies by 25. Just hope Cole Palmer doesn't go the same way.
Lads calm down, Saka will heal. We have African herbs to treat everything and the Man is a Man of God: Need I say more.. Saka I stand with you, you will come back stronger. Blessings for 25.
Look at Ansu Fati. He still doesn’t fully trust his body after suffering the same tear. Arteta can’t rush him back and he shouldn’t play him again til next season.
Egal hates the bare truth thrown at him. Has the audacity to ask Lee why he has to be right all the time. Shame on u Egal. Dont be in denial. Dissect ur team with passion & conviction & the truth shall set u free...as opposed to looking depressed all the time. On behalf of LFC, we wish Saka a speedy recovery. As a young lad, he has been a vital cog in the Arsenal wheel.
Hi all great debate I'm a Liverpool fan I regularly listen to Lee it puzzles me that so many arsenal fans argue with Lee when it's easy to see he is right in almost everything he states
LEE GOONER you are a complete negative person. I wonder if you’re an Arsenal fan every bloody time you talk negative about Our club getting sick of you
These Chanels love embarrassing their own club he brings on Lee for the views cause he knows people will get triggered and lee is spouting some rubbish about player contacts 😂😂😂 Dan and Brandon are Arsenal fans that love it when Arsenal do bad just to say I told you so what a club and fans 😂😂😂😂
So with lee argument pep finished Rodri yaya toure aguero de bruyne cos he overplayed them? What a stupid comment to say!! And by the way Owen based his game on pace same like mickey van de vein hence the reoccurring hamstring injuries!!name any young player that doesn’t want to play every minute!! Lee u are not a footballer so don’t think what young players want and the minutes they want!!how many young players sulk when they get substituted off!!
@@DuaneWest-o1yso pep played them every minute to win trophies and we should rest our star player as we don’t want to win trophies we want to protect our best player make some sense!!Risk and reward that’s what pep did with his best players!!
Theirs Medical Staff , Saka him self, and then Arteta , We all know Lee hates Arteta theres Times i agree with him somtimes not. But in this case Saka nd the medical staff have to take some blame if Saka was feeling that bad and the doctor said his hamstring is hanging off Arteta couldnt play him. How many other clubs have players that play the whole season ? If a teams on a good run they want to play and the manager plays them, if he SWAP s the players an we loose its why MESS about with the team, its unfair to Saka for Lee to say his finshed.
The best teams have a variety of ways to break down the opposition... But we rely on Saka or set - pieces. I can't remember the last time we produced a match of high and absorbing quality! I nearly fell asleep watching the Ipswich game.
Without Saka I think top four is the best you can now hope for. Its a level 3 tear which is the most severe and hardest to fully recover from. Just look at Ansu Fati, he’s not been the same player since and is still struggling to fully trust his body. If Arteta has any sense he’ll not rush him back as it could ruin his career. He shouldn’t play again til next season.
@@1972dsrai so your making an assumption that Ansu Fati has exactly the same genetic make up as saka, had exactly the same muscular injury in its every aspect and also treatment approach was exactly the same, guys your analysis of problems are completely wanting
Arteta and the board have done a disgraceful job. Our attack is so underwhelming. Merino is not a good signing, we should have got someone of a similar profile to Odegaard. We have all the 6ft+ midfielders who can’t pass forward.
@@chukwumanweke6917 I'm thankfully not your bro, bruv, bru, blud, Grindr buddy, cuz, fam, village goat, new 13 yo step father or whatever you poorly educated orphans refer to each other as
may be a bad comparison considering the ages but look at kdb after his bad hamstring injury which needed surgery he's struggling to stay fit now and not as sharp as he was pre injury and kdb has come back from bad knee injuries before and got better
Theres also Ansu Fati. He’s not been the same player since his injury. He’s still struggling to fully trust his body and thus, I don’t see Saka playing again til next season if Arteta has any sense or concern for his welfare.
@ yes that's a perfect example when it's that serious they do seem to struggle to trust there body especially hamstrings when they go it's likely they go again
hahahaha! look at the meltdown! **grabs the popcorn** As a Liverpool fan I'm thoroughly enjoying this. Lee needs to stop living in the past, he's as embarrassing as man utd fans now who talk about Fergie all the time and "man utd way". the Arsenal you have behind you on the greenscreen are dead! they don't exist anymore, it's been 21 years since you won the title. and Egal... Oh brother! He's is to Arsenal, what Don is to Chelsea. 10:30 hahahaha! Egal, you're too funny!
A freak injury is what happened to Rodri . Saka is suffering from hamstring injuries just like Reece James. Those are not freak injuries thats from being over worked. Chelsea and Liverpool changed from two managers that play high intensity football to two managers that are all about control and the injury records ftom last season are completely different. Egal has special needs
people giving amorim crap about rotation ..you cant compete domestically and in europe with nailed on 11 its short sighted. liverpool, city, madrid rotation is essential quantity is quality of its own. It takes a brave manager not to chase short term results at cost of careers.
The Egal-Lee rivalry will never not be entertaining 😂😂😂
Potential ty and claude
Egal is completely clueless about the severity of Saka’s injury. Theres a huge chance he won’t ever get back to his previous form. Just look at Ansu Fati, he’s been nowhere near what he was before his injury and he obviously would have had the best advice and treatment there is.
@@1972dsraifati was a serious knee injury from when he was 15 at one point thet didn't think fati would have a football career ,its nothing like Saka situation, most likely Saka will play less games and have more recovery time between matches, Arsenal won't be able to use Saka in every game like they do know
Egal has the ball knowledge of a jar of pickles.
😂😂😆
@@ChaosCrumpet24 and LG’s assessment of players is a bad as a drunken scout’s. That “Salah is overrated” quote has t aged well, has it..
Welbeck is better than Salah, savinho better than Saka. Egal didn’t say those things.
@@mf289egal said arsenal has better squad than Liverpool... But you won't mention that cuz it doesn't suit your narrative.
@@mf289that’s 2 things there are 100s of worse takes from egal…
Arteta is making the players play through injury and it’s caught up to him. I remember there was a game back in 2020 and Arsenal played Tottenham, Thomas Partey was trying to signal that he couldn’t play anymore, and Arteta was pushing him on the pitch trying to make him play. Making Declan rice play with Broken toes.
Arteta is a brain dead manager.
So your the sports scientist/physician at arsenal, right?
@@dr.odongrjustin9331you've missed the point. You don't have to be a physician to see that players are not handled well under Arteta. Saka is human and should not have played the amount of minutes/games he did.
@@Kevin.Anthony3 science deals with empirical evidence and not Anecdotal evidence, yours is the later
@@dr.odongrjustin9331actually it's empirical
I lost respect for Egal when he criticized Mo Salah for having a Christmas tree and calling Christianity a pagan religion.....what a wuss
Yeah but people like him are happy living in a historically Christian nation .
If our culture offends then surely it would be better to go to an islamic country
@@isfbuster6733funny how this"Canadian" goes from living in Toronto to living in London. Why not live in Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Saudi? They love all the freedoms Christian nations give them while simultaneously spitting in their faces. Most ungrateful group of people in the world, bar none!
Muslims don’t celebrate Christmas so I can understand why some criticised Salah, but I agree he went too far in saying anything about Christianity. Salah chose to do it knowing he’d get flak for it.
That guy is clueless. Doesn’t know ball.
Caling Christianity a pagan religion is laughable when the Quran "Confirms" the previous scriptures such as the Torah and Gospels, they literally kiss and worship a black stone in the middle of mecca.
Did some research.
Grade 3 is a complete tear.
Very bad.
Today's surgery and rehab
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Damn as an LFC fan Lee enlightening me to the deeper issues Saka faces.... I used to wonder why Saka always limped at end of games. That's honestly kinda sad icl
Lee is spitting FACTS THO even tho most of our fan base don’t like him BUT honestly MIKEL is literally gotta ruin Bukayo Saka career like Owen, Hazard, ,Neymar etc
Hazard was a lot different, to be fair. He didn't really train hard and subsequently got injured! He didn't try and keep fit whilst out injured, and his body just couldn't cope when he returned!
@@superflyjimmysnucka9068 he played loads of football by the age of 24 though, there is a graph that shows minutes played by certain players by the age of 24. It's a long list and hazard is at the top of it
Bollox
The day lee gunner spits facts is the day I sprout a minge
@@garygriffin3647 Says the weak Arteta fanboy who thinks him spending 800m to win fcuk all for 4 years running is 'progress'
Potts puts Egal on this channel for the numbers because the stuff that comes out of egals mouth is so shocking is disturbing
Or to make Arsenal fans into a laughing stock.
@HarryCallahan-tf3qror maybe to have different opinions so his channel does become a echo chamber
😂😂
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew But him of all people 🙄
Egal cant handle the heat! Lee keep the pressure up on these PR merchants for the club
Egal is totally deluded about Saka’s injury. Just look at Ansu Fati who suffered the same tear. Its hard to fully recover from and as a winger Saka might have to change his game and maybe even position.
@1972dsrai He has no clue how serious it is. That's the problem with him he always wants to be looked on as a positive fan (Top Gooner) and not have his true feelings
@@ryanrei what a load of BS. Players are different, they react to injury differently. Saying that Saka’s career is done to suit his rubbish agenda is disgraceful. Did he have the same energy when Timber did his ACL (also Arteta’s fault I presume?) and was out best part of year out to return as a world beater this year. “Different injury” - how many careers have been ruined by ACL? Hamstring tear is bad but players do recover these days with the amount if new science and recovery methods these days. Saka’s game is not based on sheer pace - it’s based on balance and perfect use of body weight when carrying the ball and turning players. He’ll be fine.
So bored with these ignorant and biased analyses.
Lee is not keeping the pressure on nobody...Lee is a fan like every individual and has no God given right to force people to not have their own opinions. He is not a better supporter than anyone whether they have been supporting Arsenal from the 90s (as i have) or just started in 2024..he is entitled to his viewpoints and how he sees the club and other supporters are entitled to theirs
Some people love his negativity because that's how they role in life, while others are optimistic and then there are those who are in-between. In the end every one has the right to support the club however they want.
GRADE 3 HAMSTRING, WHEN PLAYERS HAVE SURGERY ARE NEVER THE SAME, BECAUSE THEY PLAYER SUB CONSCIOUSLY IS WORRIED ABOUT IT TEARING AGAIN, SO THEY NEVER GO FULL SPEED
One of the rare occasions I 100% agree with Lee. It’s evident Saka is overplayed.
The way Egal just dismisses other teams' chances is ridiculous !! He will never learn!!
His arguments have so many holes. Too easy for Lee.
hes only been an arsenal fan for 5 minutes hes clueless about arsenal he even thought van persie came through our academy
@@MC-yi8kf even I know he didnt go through your come through your academy and I am a LFC supporter....🤣😂😅
Lee Gunner speaking facts here. It's very sad what's happened to Saka. Whether or not Saka ever gets back to his best, you should never run a player into the ground. I hope Arteta will strengthen the attack and manage the players better with regular rotation.
You don’t anything about physiotherapy stop talking nonsense. Injuries are mostly random, Reiss Nelson cooked his hamstring at Fulham and he barely plays in recent years
Lee is the only Arsenal fan on UA-cam that speaks FACTS
Lee is spot on about these injuries to young players. No one is talking about Pedri and Gavi. They are both shadows of what they were 2 years ago because they've been over played and mismanaged
What nonsense planet are you living in 😂 pedri is still considered one of the best if not the best midfielder currently. Literally everyone talks about pedri .. Gavi is different because he just came back
Remember Marco Reus, Pato, Pastore
@@Kwab116 if you think Pedri is any where near the levels he was 2-3 years ago, then you really are watching the back of your TV.
@@GuesswhereIsMe Gotze, Ousmane Dembele, Wilshere, Ansu Fati. The list is endless. Even look at Kobbie Mainoo and Lewis Miley (the Newcastle lad), after all the football they played last season, they can't seem to get a break from injuries this season.
@@smaugballer7337 Ya as soon as they look like they can jog again they all get thrown back into the team straight away. Potch was doing this with Reece James last season and now he's done for
On this olise hamstring injury point olise doesn’t rely on pace and explosiveness he’s a high iq player so it’s easier for him to adapt after suffering a hamstring injury
Saka doesn’t rely on explosiveness either. When was the last time you saw him go on a full on sprint?
@ come bro he does
@Mally-TalksAFCSaka barely ever uses his full sprint I can think of once this season and that was for the Liverpool goal
@@msmwn1586Saka is a kick and run merchant got no tec
Saka has high IQ he is Arsenal's most creative player in terms of assists, you don't have a high IQ to say this nonsense
Saka’s injury is serious and he probably won’t be back until next season if Arteta has any sense. Its not an injury you can rush players back from. It could seriously affect his game when he does come back. Just look at Ansu Fati. His injury was just as severe as Saka’s and he’s not been the same player since he came back. Saka will probably have to change his game and probably won’t be beating defenders for fun as he was before the injury.
WOW!!! Lee Gunner dropped some facts. I'm not a fan of Lee, but I couldn't even argue with him here.
Lee made me remember how we almost lost Saliba due to Arteta being totally clueless.
Spurs fan here so neutral in the Lee vs Egal civil war....but you can't argue with Lee. He was right and has receipts.
🤦♂️ Egal stop it
In the mix for top 4 😂
Egal comes up with bullshet gets shut down, changes the topic to other bullshet...
8:50 - 9:05 shutdown ---> changes topic 9:25
Both of these guys are brilliant respect the both of them
Lee isn’t
If you overplay a player....he will break down...Arteta makes the players play with broken toes, he makes them come back from injury early and play a full 90 minutes....he just wants to win the game without concern for the players long term physical fitness and career....he is selfish and clueless
To answer Egal. Michael Olise has never had a grade3 hamstring injury.
Also it wasn't grade 3, and it still took 6 months for him to recover, and then he immediately strained it again. In a team that doesn't play anywhere near as many games as Arsenal.
It doesn't matter what Arteta did with Saka, Lee would complain. If he rests him, he would moan if he plays him he moans hes overplayed, i never hear Liverpool fans moaning Salah has been overplayed and he been played near enough 50 games every season.
Fact is Lee dont like Mikel because he rejected him for a photo.
Having the audacity to say you speak facts when you say Welbeck is better than salah and Savio is better than Saka.
True but Klopp completely rested Salah in domestic cup games and very rarely started him. Saka plays 90 mins week in week out
@rohithraman6488 Since the 19/20 season, Salah has played 271 and Saka has played 246 games, so like I said he has been used less than Salah.
@liamje2585 last year was in injured for 2 months from afcon
@@andrewwright4195 and has still played more games since Arteta has been here
Fact is you're just a clueless plastic who thinks Islington is in New Delhi
EGAL IS RIDICULOUS
Lee cooked Egal & Arteta the entire video. 😂
Saka limping is because he suffers from an achilleas injury. I agree with Lee. Arteta has ran the kid into the ground.
Give it time .. Egals gonna learn … and wait for what Arteta does to MLS.
Another career ruined
I like egal but he really does not want to hear the truth I said this to my arsenal mate a Yr and a half ago that saka is being over played and he will will be fecked with injuries after a certain point
He’s also clueless and being very optimistic about Saka coming back just as good as he was. Theres a strong chance he might have to change his game as a result and might not beat defenders for fun as he was. Just look at Ansu Fati. He still doesn’t fully trust his body and its seriously affected his form as a result. Some players struggle to adapt and as a winger Saka might even have to play in a different position where he doesn’t need to rely on his burst of pace.
Egal is so deluded. He’s essentially lil brother
Well said Lee Gunner keep speaking the facts and truth about this club Arteta out
I swear if arterta went there is no way your getting a guy who get near to challenging
Weh weh
@@ToddBurge-sh8iq I’m a United fan and I hope to god you get rid of arterta just so you can be a banter club again
@ your club is the banter club alongside with spurs
@@dom123456ableArsenal are still a banter they haven’t won the league since 04.
I’m a Liverpool fan Lee’s making so much sense 🔴
lee is spot on arteta has had ample chances to sign cover for saka but chooses not too, i see this coming ages ago its insane the amount of games the lad has played over the last 3 seasons.
LG blaming Arteta... That is soooo surprising.. He normally back him and believes in the process...
Yeah cos saka selects himself for the lineup every game for years straight right 🤦♂️ get your head out of your arse and dispute what hes saying if you actually disagree
The 'PRocess' just so you know is Stan Kronke making loads of cash off of Arsenal winning nothing unfortunately
I seen mickey owens hamstring burst against Leeds away . Was never the same after . The burst of pace was gone .
Just look at Ansu Fati. Players sometimes struggle to fully trust their bodies after sn injury like this. I think Saka will have to change his game and possibly even position to somewhere where his burst of pace isn’t required so much.
Lee at one time said Saka wasn't good enough, why is he ranting about his injury now?? Shameless bloke
Believing there are better wingers out there doesn't mean you dont believe saka carries this team offensively. Its all relative. If the other forwards werent shit, sakas contribution could be viewed differently. There are always potential upgrades or competition for positions.
Imagine Egal and Ty having a convo
Memo Lee Gunner, Alexis Sanchez, tore hamstring, had surgery in 2011 at barca.
It wasn't a grade 3 hamstring tear and Sanchez has a stronger physical condition than saka
@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew yes it was hence requirement for surgical repair.
He needs to stick to ice hockey 🏑
Saka won't be the same for a very long time. This could take a few years recovery... If of course Arteta allows him to recover
what a clown this lee guy!
Arsenal fans paying highest ticket price in Europe are clowns for sure
Lee Gunner knows nothing. He is speculating.
I don’t understand how egal gets airtime on UA-cam. Shame on you
Agreed. Both Ty and Egal are incapable of putting together cogent arguments and just try and shout you down with blind faith.
They're both ridiculous.
Never known a fanbase to lose their minds over 1 player getting injured.
Our best player….
SAKA FC
It shows the love the fans have for Bukayo Saka unlike other teams
Cuz he's by far arsenal best attacker without him they are finished
Because he’s been overplayed ever since he broke through and the club have done nothing to sign a back up and give him rest in the least important games and taking him off when the games done
The same people who claim some arsenal fans sympathize too much with arteta are the one twerking for lee ,a clown who uses ragebait for clicks
You only watch what you consider to be "ragebait", hence why you think this. Win or lose, the fella gets views. Broaden your perspective and you might feel different.
LG's irrelevant facts. But never talks about how wrong he has been. Lol
Ffs the Canadian plastic & Arteta fanboy returns with more bollocks
Have Arsenal fans or administration ever admitted when they are wrong 😂
Egal,, don't waist your time coming on Dan channel,, Dan never question Lee,, why?
Also go read a dictionary it’s waste not waist 😂😂😂😂💀
You may have your reservations when it comes to Lee, but on the Saka injury comment, he is speaking facts.
Saka has the worst hamstring injury of the lot. Surgery is rare when it comes to hamstring injuries, but with a Grade 3, you need surgery as the hamstring is literally pulled away from the bone.
We are talking about a career ending injury back in the day.
Now, there have been vast improvements in medical and sports science, so the chances of Saka recovering and going on to play footie again is on the high side.
However, with this type of injury, players often don't recover fully. Most times, players with Grade 3 have to modify their game for fear of a recurrence. What this means is that Saka may never be able to display that explosive bust of speed that he's known for. This is not because he can not or would not, but because if he does, he increases his risk of a recurrence that could effectively end his career.
He may, therefore, need to move into the middle and play as a 10 or something of that nature. There are also things worth considering when it comes to hamstring injuries, things like game time, diet, recovery, and genetics.
Some players are born with great genetics like Salah, who seems to play every minute of every game, but hardly picks up a hamstring injury even though he runs at full pelt most times.
If Saka has "great genetics," he could recover fully and still be that explosive player he's always been. Nevertheless, his game time, diet and recovery amongst others, will need to be reviewed by the club going forward, as once you’ve gone under the knife, you're not just the same physically and mentally afterward.
Lee talks garbage sometimes but at the sametime says some truth 😂
No Achilles Heels were harmed in the making of this video....
The blame has to be shared between arteta edu and the ownership. Its not all artetas fault but he has to take a good deal of the blame. Because saka has been so reliable so far there has been no immediate incentive to compliment him with other wide forwards and no one at the club had the foresight to see this becoming a problem. Lee and egal are cringe but lee is right in this situation. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day
Stick to baseball septic
Good boy
Hamstring can go at anytime tbf, but Saka was clearly being overplayed so people will understandably blame the coach.
Not an Assana fan. But need the daily dose of the Truth according to Lee "Get slapped in the face with a big wet fish, and falling flat on your face, with egg on your face!" Gunner.
I wish Lee, Rants, Flying Pig and Expressions would do a watch along. What a show.
Arteta has a lot of blame in the injury to Saka bcos he didnt buy a replacement for him
‘For the love of the club’..: type in LG Comedy. Lee has an agenda against Mikel because he didn’t have time to take a picture outside of Colney. I’d take any arsenal fans opinion on Arsenal and respect it but not Lee
Cry more😂
@ 🤫🤫🤫
All the fans that support him are the ones on the other side of the world, which ironically are the fans he racially profiled on X. Him and his followers are a strange bunch.
@ so true. Going to the Swan or Tollington on match days you very rarely get fans that want him out. It might get there soon if we don’t start winning but no honest fan is against Arteta, especially when he’s had a great year in the prem
You lot put mikel arteta over your own football club
Saka is gonna get the rooney treatment. Fading at late 20’s. Difference is rooney had the skill set to play second striker then lost more legs & played the 10. Saka unfortunately isn’t built like that.
Gunner fear mongering like he’s a CNN host💀
The difference between Arsenal and Liverpool is Arsenal dropping 8 points from winning positions in the second half against Manchester City, Brighton, Liverpool and Chelsea. Not to mention there were three sending offs in three of the four games mentioned. That said, I doubt that Arteta can carry us over the finish line. He isn't a good enough manager yet at this point in his career. We need to upgrade manager more so than the players.
Lee Gunner and the people that idolise him are a certain kind of person. The guy is an arrogant know it all, that is massively bitter of more successful fan channels, so constantly brings them up any opportunity he gets. In physically demanding sport, injury can happen at any point. Timber tore his acl in our first game of the season last season against forest, was that Arteta's fault?. The guy has waaay too much hate for a man he doesn't know, and all his manson cult like followers think that not saying anything positive about the manager or players ever, makes them some sort of elite fan with "high standards". Genuinely pathetic.
He actually did blame Arteta for Timber's injury against forest LOL
@rohithraman6488 I understand criticism of the manager, the owners, all of it, because I do think Arteta has made some big mistakes, like the havertz signing, not properly addressing the attack, selecting the wrong subs/lineup which has cost us valuable points. I'm actually someone who believes if Arteta doesn't win a trophy this season, he should possibly be relieved of his duties, but I'm also a man that knows how to be a proper man, and can be honest enough to be honest in my assessment of things, so I won't sit here and make out that everything arteta has done and does is bad, and I won't make out certain players who are clearly very talented such as ødegaard, are s**t and a disgrace, which Lee tries to claim. He's embarrassing.
@@rohithraman6488I’ve just said that lol, I think he said something like “arteta moved him to RB/LB and that’s why he got injured or something” lol
@@ethanfoster2972 and people still listen to this guy religiously, its mad lmao.
@@ethanfoster2972 how does he come to such conclusions, "he got injured cause he moved full back positions" LMAO
Wayne Rooney career being over at 26 is wild! lol
Love Egal vs Lee 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One thing about Lee Gunner is…. He’s never wrong about Arsenal!
This Egal seriously has mental deficiency
Egal is a great example of a certain type of fan that will mock & imply ‘ 500 years ago’ when talking about football over the last 30 years but will brag and live off successes from that same era
Lee Gunner is a Legend,he keros it real & tells it like it is
Arsenal should have bought a right winger to rotate with Saka throughout the season. The real problem is Arteta has created an expensive A squad where the quality of the players is more important than the system and tactics.
Lee is right about young, English players being overplayed-Owen, Rooney now Saka. The difference with Owen and Rooney is that both won multiple domestic and European trophies by 25. Just hope Cole Palmer doesn't go the same way.
💯 Lee spitting facts Owen was done due to same abuse playing non stop
Lads calm down, Saka will heal. We have African herbs to treat everything and the Man is a Man of God: Need I say more.. Saka I stand with you, you will come back stronger. Blessings for 25.
Don't give me that man of God bullshit
Look at Ansu Fati. He still doesn’t fully trust his body after suffering the same tear. Arteta can’t rush him back and he shouldn’t play him again til next season.
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Ha: you guys live through life without hope. I have hope the same God that lives in me lives in Saka: Watch God move in 25 and be blessed.
Lee gooner only gooner that speaks the truth
Egal hates the bare truth thrown at him. Has the audacity to ask Lee why he has to be right all the time. Shame on u Egal. Dont be in denial. Dissect ur team with passion & conviction & the truth shall set u free...as opposed to looking depressed all the time. On behalf of LFC, we wish Saka a speedy recovery. As a young lad, he has been a vital cog in the Arsenal wheel.
Egirl roasted again....2025 is gonna be peak.
I always thought Arteta was going to ruin Saka's career because of overplaying him at such a young age.
He’s like a chain smoking Ian Beale.
I'm a Liverpool fan and Lee you are spot on with Michael Owen hamstrings
Same thing will happen to saka
Hi all great debate I'm a Liverpool fan I regularly listen to Lee it puzzles me that so many arsenal fans argue with Lee when it's easy to see he is right in almost everything he states
LEE GOONER you are a complete negative person. I wonder if you’re an Arsenal fan every bloody time you talk negative about Our club getting sick of you
Our club 😂😂😂
@ share the joke
If its not blind positivity we dont want it 🗣 right? 😂
Telling the truth is not negativity
@ He talks nothing Positive
These Chanels love embarrassing their own club he brings on Lee for the views cause he knows people will get triggered and lee is spouting some rubbish about player contacts 😂😂😂 Dan and Brandon are Arsenal fans that love it when Arsenal do bad just to say I told you so what a club and fans 😂😂😂😂
I can’t argue with Lee on this.Weve all been saying,overplaying certain players and lack of depth will kill us
100% facts, for Lee
So with lee argument pep finished Rodri yaya toure aguero de bruyne cos he overplayed them? What a stupid comment to say!! And by the way Owen based his game on pace same like mickey van de vein hence the reoccurring hamstring injuries!!name any young player that doesn’t want to play every minute!! Lee u are not a footballer so don’t think what young players want and the minutes they want!!how many young players sulk when they get substituted off!!
Rodri yaya toure aguero & de bruyne all won trophies under pep & at City
Saka's won nothing under peps cone layer & at small club Arsenal
@@DuaneWest-o1yso pep played them every minute to win trophies and we should rest our star player as we don’t want to win trophies we want to protect our best player make some sense!!Risk and reward that’s what pep did with his best players!!
@@rajsidhu629 If your star player was any good then he'd be at a big UCL club winning trophies
@@DuaneWest-o1y stick to the injury debate not change it to how good Saka is!!
Theirs Medical Staff , Saka him self, and then Arteta , We all know Lee hates Arteta theres Times i agree with him somtimes not. But in this case Saka nd the medical staff have to take some blame if Saka was feeling that bad and the doctor said his hamstring is hanging off Arteta couldnt play him. How many other clubs have players that play the whole season ? If a teams on a good run they want to play and the manager plays them, if he SWAP s the players an we loose its why MESS about with the team, its unfair to Saka for Lee to say his finshed.
Lee Gunner thinks the Kronkes will listen to a beer man 😅😅😅😅
Ambition is either set by owners or Fans. Fans got Wenger and Emery sacked not Kronke, don't forget 😅
Olise's hamstring was a grade 3
The best teams have a variety of ways to break down the opposition... But we rely on Saka or set - pieces. I can't remember the last time we produced a match of high and absorbing quality! I nearly fell asleep watching the Ipswich game.
Liverpool have Salah, any other way? Salah has scored and assisted 6/10 of their goal this season, absolute baseless arguement
Without Saka I think top four is the best you can now hope for. Its a level 3 tear which is the most severe and hardest to fully recover from. Just look at Ansu Fati, he’s not been the same player since and is still struggling to fully trust his body. If Arteta has any sense he’ll not rush him back as it could ruin his career. He shouldn’t play again til next season.
@@1972dsrai so your making an assumption that Ansu Fati has exactly the same genetic make up as saka, had exactly the same muscular injury in its every aspect and also treatment approach was exactly the same, guys your analysis of problems are completely wanting
@@dr.odongrjustin9331look up the interview from Fati’s surgeon. He said that Fati ruined his own recovery
Arteta and the board have done a disgraceful job. Our attack is so underwhelming. Merino is not a good signing, we should have got someone of a similar profile to Odegaard. We have all the 6ft+ midfielders who can’t pass forward.
"Michael Owen from 500 years ago" more like less than 30 years ago
ilEGAL opinions.. give it up man!
Egal's ball knowledge is so embarassing. He definitely started supporting Arsenal two years ago.
Love Lee vs Egal debates! 😂😂
Wow this was one man talking sense and the other not wanting to admit Lee may be right bc of pride
Saka will come back the same or better lee respect yourself
Who told you that?
Rosie and Jim?
You can see the future? Oh no, its just your blind toxic positivity triggering a contrary response to what your brain deems 'negative'.
@ so I should talk down on him? Is that your solution? Bro live in your small world of negativity
@@chukwumanweke6917 I'm thankfully not your bro, bruv, bru, blud, Grindr buddy, cuz, fam, village goat, new 13 yo step father or whatever you poorly educated orphans refer to each other as
Lets make lee gunner the head coach of arsenal 😂😂😂😂this man looking to be famous
may be a bad comparison considering the ages but look at kdb after his bad hamstring injury which needed surgery he's struggling to stay fit now and not as sharp as he was pre injury and kdb has come back from bad knee injuries before and got better
Theres also Ansu Fati. He’s not been the same player since his injury. He’s still struggling to fully trust his body and thus, I don’t see Saka playing again til next season if Arteta has any sense or concern for his welfare.
@ yes that's a perfect example when it's that serious they do seem to struggle to trust there body especially hamstrings when they go it's likely they go again
hahahaha! look at the meltdown! **grabs the popcorn**
As a Liverpool fan I'm thoroughly enjoying this. Lee needs to stop living in the past, he's as embarrassing as man utd fans now who talk about Fergie all the time and "man utd way". the Arsenal you have behind you on the greenscreen are dead! they don't exist anymore, it's been 21 years since you won the title. and Egal... Oh brother! He's is to Arsenal, what Don is to Chelsea.
10:30 hahahaha! Egal, you're too funny!
Premier League Minutes Played:
Salah 16139 minutes played since 2019
Saka 14703 minutes played since 2019
Know your facts before you speak.
The point is Saka played to much at a young age Salah came to liverpool when he was 24 , we are talking about over playing players from a young age
Lee Gunner talking facts
A freak injury is what happened to Rodri . Saka is suffering from hamstring injuries just like Reece James. Those are not freak injuries thats from being over worked. Chelsea and Liverpool changed from two managers that play high intensity football to two managers that are all about control and the injury records ftom last season are completely different. Egal has special needs
people giving amorim crap about rotation ..you cant compete domestically and in europe with nailed on 11 its short sighted. liverpool, city, madrid rotation is essential quantity is quality of its own. It takes a brave manager not to chase short term results at cost of careers.
Lee is such a flip flop