For my, my black version is spot on, when it comes to build quality. Paint too. It is hard for me to get use to use alt, ctrl and other such keys with my thumbs. Otherwise I can write quite fast as of now. I have it for around 15 days now. For now I have around 60 WPM with polish language, so using alt a lot, and adding numbers and symbols.
Thanks for the review. Just to balance the scale, my experience has rather been the opposite, quite positive. I have a black wireless model. HW quality is very premium. Solid and doesn't move around. Typing is fluid and acoustic is quite pleasant. The software was has a few missing features but I have not experienced any major issues. The UI is very intuitive and pleasing to the eyes, one of the best if not the best I should say. My current daily driver is ZSA Voyager, but I am very fond of the Defy, and there's a lot to like about this keyboard. I hope your issues will be resolved soon. I heard they have a good support team.
I'm glad you had a good experience. I've resolved most of the issues I mentioned in this video. I'll update the video description to share the current situation
Hey, I am using Dygma Raise for the last 2.5 years and am extremely happy with it. Considering to buy 2nd keyboard for office. I can quickly adapt between keyboards so I don't think i will have issue with switching between. I am considering ZSA Voyager and Dygma Defy. Can you share your experience comparing both ? I am a bit worried about 54 keys and 2 thumb pad keys on ZSA. Although I don't use all of Dygma raise keys currently.
@@Venkat2811 As you would hear most often in these discussions, it all depends on what you are looking for. As for me, I'm an old guy who have been pounding keyboard keys hard for literally decades. The most important criteria is the ergonomics and RSI and less pain. Having said that, the reasons I prefer Voyager are: - Size and reduced keys: Thus my fingers have to travel less, which means less stretch and pain. - Simple: I like it it's simple wired connection. Defy requires 3 cables and the brain, and when it's in wired mode or charing which is quite often, it's not pretty. - Solid: It's metal, substantial, solid and just superb. Never misses a beat. This is why I am not looking for other reduce small split keyboards (with 3 thumb keys). They are mostly plastic, and don't look as solid as the Voyager. - This is one of the products that just make you feel good when you are using them. I also found the best track ball, for me of course. The Ploopy Advent. I know, I know. The name.. But it's really a great trackball. Something that finally saved my wrist from the brutal mouse use. Yes, 2 thumb keys of the Voyager is a bummer, tbh. 3 would have been a dream. But you would eventually figure out a way that would work for you. When I change a keyboard it would take about a month for me to come up with the final layout that would work for me. I think home row mod is a must with these reduced size keyboards. Good luck!
I literally gave up using the Defy wireless because of connection issues. That would be bad enough, but even wired it has lots of problems (sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect the RHS 20 times before it gets recognised). Dreadful. Such a shame because it is otherwise a great keyboard. When it eventually breaks, I will not be buying another Dygma product. Wasted so many hours on trying to fix this product which is supposed to be a premium offering.
"Updating key colours in Bazecor sometimes requires restarting the keyboard halves to take effect" I have the wired Defy, but think it would be the same. When I change colors in Bazecor, i just change the layer to another one and back and the colors update. Still not ideal but the firmware is always being improved. I'm on Bazecor 1.3.10-rc.2 and firmware 1.2.5beta.
@@ChrisHaupt I just ran into the brightness not updating, which is a first over my few days of use. Using the LED next key to cycle the LED effects was what got Bazecor and the board back in sync. I use custom colors so I just press LED next enough times to see my colors again. I'm sure all these bugs will get squashed in the meantime, we need to keep sharing our workarounds.
@@ChrisHaupt I think you should contact them. Maybe you could get replacement top plates. Of course that would mean you'd have to change them by yourself, but I don't think that would be too cumbersome of a task. Dygma has a video about disassembling the Defy.
@@Playpig Yeah but, technically it's damage caused by me. Even if they replace it, it will still be the same anodisation process and will still chip away just as easily. I'm not too fussed. Even if it all chips away it'll still be a good looking keyboard
For my, my black version is spot on, when it comes to build quality. Paint too. It is hard for me to get use to use alt, ctrl and other such keys with my thumbs. Otherwise I can write quite fast as of now. I have it for around 15 days now. For now I have around 60 WPM with polish language, so using alt a lot, and adding numbers and symbols.
very impressive! do you have any previous experience with split keyboards or ortholonears?
Thanks for the review. Just to balance the scale, my experience has rather been the opposite, quite positive. I have a black wireless model. HW quality is very premium. Solid and doesn't move around. Typing is fluid and acoustic is quite pleasant. The software was has a few missing features but I have not experienced any major issues. The UI is very intuitive and pleasing to the eyes, one of the best if not the best I should say. My current daily driver is ZSA Voyager, but I am very fond of the Defy, and there's a lot to like about this keyboard. I hope your issues will be resolved soon. I heard they have a good support team.
I'm glad you had a good experience. I've resolved most of the issues I mentioned in this video. I'll update the video description to share the current situation
Hmm, mine update as soon as I hit Save on Bazecor. I have the wireless version.
Hi, user. Why do you prefer prefer the Voyager? I don't know which of these 2 to get
Hey, I am using Dygma Raise for the last 2.5 years and am extremely happy with it. Considering to buy 2nd keyboard for office. I can quickly adapt between keyboards so I don't think i will have issue with switching between. I am considering ZSA Voyager and Dygma Defy. Can you share your experience comparing both ? I am a bit worried about 54 keys and 2 thumb pad keys on ZSA. Although I don't use all of Dygma raise keys currently.
@@Venkat2811 As you would hear most often in these discussions, it all depends on what you are looking for. As for me, I'm an old guy who have been pounding keyboard keys hard for literally decades. The most important criteria is the ergonomics and RSI and less pain. Having said that, the reasons I prefer Voyager are:
- Size and reduced keys: Thus my fingers have to travel less, which means less stretch and pain.
- Simple: I like it it's simple wired connection. Defy requires 3 cables and the brain, and when it's in wired mode or charing which is quite often, it's not pretty.
- Solid: It's metal, substantial, solid and just superb. Never misses a beat. This is why I am not looking for other reduce small split keyboards (with 3 thumb keys). They are mostly plastic, and don't look as solid as the Voyager.
- This is one of the products that just make you feel good when you are using them. I also found the best track ball, for me of course. The Ploopy Advent. I know, I know. The name.. But it's really a great trackball. Something that finally saved my wrist from the brutal mouse use.
Yes, 2 thumb keys of the Voyager is a bummer, tbh. 3 would have been a dream. But you would eventually figure out a way that would work for you. When I change a keyboard it would take about a month for me to come up with the final layout that would work for me. I think home row mod is a must with these reduced size keyboards.
Good luck!
that is why i dont do wireless keyboards , was almost wanting to get this one ....
I literally gave up using the Defy wireless because of connection issues. That would be bad enough, but even wired it has lots of problems (sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect the RHS 20 times before it gets recognised). Dreadful. Such a shame because it is otherwise a great keyboard. When it eventually breaks, I will not be buying another Dygma product. Wasted so many hours on trying to fix this product which is supposed to be a premium offering.
Something better than an exceptional support is not having to need it ;)
"Updating key colours in Bazecor sometimes requires restarting the keyboard halves to take effect" I have the wired Defy, but think it would be the same. When I change colors in Bazecor, i just change the layer to another one and back and the colors update. Still not ideal but the firmware is always being improved. I'm on Bazecor 1.3.10-rc.2 and firmware 1.2.5beta.
Thanks, I'll try that 😊
@@ChrisHaupt I just ran into the brightness not updating, which is a first over my few days of use. Using the LED next key to cycle the LED effects was what got Bazecor and the board back in sync. I use custom colors so I just press LED next enough times to see my colors again. I'm sure all these bugs will get squashed in the meantime, we need to keep sharing our workarounds.
Have you reached out to them about the paint issue, that's not good. I'm still waiting for mine but love the raise.
I haven't, I don't see what solution they could offer other than to change the manufacturing process
@@ChrisHaupt I think you should contact them. Maybe you could get replacement top plates. Of course that would mean you'd have to change them by yourself, but I don't think that would be too cumbersome of a task. Dygma has a video about disassembling the Defy.
@@Playpig Yeah but, technically it's damage caused by me. Even if they replace it, it will still be the same anodisation process and will still chip away just as easily. I'm not too fussed. Even if it all chips away it'll still be a good looking keyboard
Здравствуйте.... Самое главное делай как можно больше видео роликов 😊😊. Я ✍️ ся ,вы?!