The Romero being inconsistent is a shotgun problem, not a Romero problem. It's ironic you'd say that because the Romero has the most consistent one shot kill in the game. I've point blank shot enemies In the chest with the specter and missed getting the kill.
difference is that when you use crown and cringe you can just keep shooting so RNG does not matter as much. RNG goes against you using romero? Well you are so slow that someone might just knife rush you. Its also why the rival is so loved before the slate took its place.
@@N0031inq if you are beyond like 4 meters the C&K becomes a tickle machine instead of a firearm, and it also kicks pretty decently. It also costs like $500. I think the c&k is generally pretty bad, you have to kiss your opponents to make it work. To your other point I'm not a fan of the super slow action speed of the pump guns, being knife rushed in between shots is pretty frustrating. And yeah the slate is pretty busted
Yeah, I feel like most of the complaints he had about the Romero can be resolved by improving your movement and positioning differently. You can avoid taking engagements in the "Royally screwed" area without too much problem, once you get into a compound the Romero absolutly decimates enemy hunters. The Romero is one of the best weapons in the game for defending OR pushing a banish site. It's an amazing weapon for solo play, I've wiped so many duos with it.
@@N0031inq Even though you can keep shooting with the crown and “cringe”, it only holds 5+6 reserve. So if you constantly need more than 2 shots to kill someone with a shotgun, why not just bring a Nagant Officer, New Army, Scottfield Spitfire or even Dolch? You can keep shooting those almost just as fast while being more consistent and ammo efficient. The Crown and King is overrated as hell after all the nerfs
I've had the opposite experience, the Romero hardly ever one shots upper chest when I'm close but whenever I use the specter I can hit someone in the toe and they seem to die. That said, I still love the Romero.
@@cccspwn stat wise yeah it is, but for some reason I get much more consistent 1 hit kills with base Romero over the Alamo. It could just be luck but it could also be a misrepresented stat or something. Def wouldn't be the first time the displayed weapon stats are wrong
Not gonna lie I am a big Romero user and I think you are 100% right about the importance of play style in assesing the usefulness of a weapon. It's not an accident that I find myself using the exact sort of tactics you describe in this video most of the time when I play the game. The thing I will add is that I really find myself going to the Hatchet once I have it unlocked since, with such aggressive tactics, melee range is never really that far away and a lot more versatile than the slightly better accuracy of the handcannon. Also...you must being doing something right if Crytek adds a weapon to the game just to spite you XD.
Does the romero handcannon actually have tighter spread than the romero hatchet? They used to have different stats, but in patch 1.4 they both got buffed and now they have the same range/damage stats listed in the store page. As far as I know, there's less decision-making involved than you think; just always take the hatchet instead of the handcannon if you can.
@@apresmidi153 They should be identical except for cost and obviously the Hatchet's status as the best melee weapon in the game. It's so good as the big bitchin beauty whacker when you have quartermaster and some close to midrange rifle as your main gun
Ori and the Blind Forest is one of the greatest games of all time and I was pleasantly surprised to hear you reference it in a Hunt gun guide of all places! One of my favorite parts of the second game was the variety of combat abilities, allowing the player to combine things like slicing melee attacks with ranged explosive shots. Kind of like the Bomb Lance. Which you should still do a video on.
Let me guess, you use the time they take ti cover and heal after the shot to move into shotgun range. That's a good strategy, and a cheap loadout to boot.
Seriously, the springfield deadeye compact is the most underrated gun in the game. Give it some dum dum ammo and it is a beast of an opening weapon. Headshot and they die and the range and accuracy is surprising. Get a chest and that dude dude you hit has like 2 seconds to live or they die from bleeding so you can blast them then push so that they have to engage right before they bleed out. So, this combo is surprisingly deadly when you need a cheap load out.
I've been using pretty much nothing but the Romero Alamo since the update dropped. The Romero just feels a lot better than most of the other shotguns the extra range on the Romero gives you just a bit more freedom and margin for error on your positioning whereas the increased pellet spread and follow up shots of the other shotguns gives you more margin for error on your aim personally that a trade I'm definitely willing to make.
Yeah I feel you, last night at about 3m range I hit the guy with a romero shot, and a shot to the chest from the nagant revolver, but somehow he one taps me with the specter at the same range.
The main problem i have with the Romero is how punishing it is to miss, it is arguably the strongest and most powerful shotgun in the game but it really requires the user to have good tracking and environmental awareness. I dont use it that much (even though i used to be a sparks user with no life) purely because of how frustrating it is to miss an impactful shot or get killed by the hunter’s teammate. I dont think the gun should be buffed or nerfed though… its still an extremely solid and cheap option that can give you some kills if you play to its advantage
After the recent changes with barrel length efectiving the range of shotguns. The base specter has the same range as the Romero even though the stats don't show it.
People really overrate its longer range. It's only a +3m 1HK range compared to every other shotgun, and shotgun kills tend to be around 10m most of the time anyway.
All it takes to LOVE the Romero is to expect it to take 2 shots to kill. That way you 1) learn to play around the reload and use cover to dominate other players, and 2) you’re pleasantly surprised when it does kill in 1… 😉 In all seriousness it is a great budget weapon, there are $500 dollar guns that are far less effective than it in certain situations. The Alamo is also well balanced, for around $100 you have a slightly slower specter that can still be used to effectively wipe teams, albeit not as quickly as a specter or slate.
It's not slightly slower, it's twice as slow compared to the specter. Makes the alamo pretty pointless to me, since you only shoot around 0.5s faster compared to a regular romero
@@cassidy8307 it’s also twice as cheap. I’m not saying the Alamo is goated or anything, a normal Romero is just about as good. It’s fun and funky though, and can still kill people so I’ll take it
You already nailed the point that the Romero doesn't match your play style. For players who struggle to utilize things like long ammo to their full extent, because they suck at precision aiming (me), the Romero is an excellent choice for perkless loadouts. I personally love to pair it with the Scottfield Spitfire with FMJ. Played aggressively and quickly, this can easily carry you to 5 star lobbies. Something not covered in the video is that if you're bringing along a Romero, you shouldn't be using it as your primary form of aggression. It's a VERY powerful one shot opener that should immediately be swapped after firing to capitalize on the pressure done by the damage (if it doesn't 1-tap). I only have my Romero out when I know it's to my advantage. Otherwise, I'm holding a midrange and fast firing pistol. Personally, my only gripe with the Alamo is that it's a long barrel with multiple shots with access to slugs that requires no traits... Right after they nerfed the slate with slugs for that exact premise... And it's radically cheaper than the slate... We're gonna see it a lot.
The Romero Hatchet with dragons breath is the way to go. It may not have the one tap power that you could have with the full sized romero with slugs, but it makes up for that with the fear you will teach to those unfortunate enough to be set on fire and chased with an axe.
The randomness of the kills with buckshot really goes down if you treat it more like a slug shotgun and aim it instead of hip-firing. Since the spread of the pellets is so thin the romero whiffs a lot more at close range if not properly aimed. Pennyshot helps a lot in this regard, sacrificing some range (although it can still surprise in that regard) for a lot more consistency in short range scenarios. Also pennyshot is a huge help for quickly dispatching bosses. For the Alamo I found it best to just play it like the regular version and enjoy the slight benefit of a higher rof while slipping in and out of cover, it's still way to slow to stand your ground if the first hit didn't kill, swapping to the sidearm also still makes a lot of sense.
A few notes: The area of useful vs useless is a problem with literally every shotgun (every weapon to a degree) but the Romero gets hurt the least by it. Each shotgun only has a short effective range and beyond that they suck but the romero's tighter spread keeps it more useful for longer. Pellets missing is just the nature of shotguns, since your shot breaks apart you can have all pellets hit the target dealing devastating damage, some peel off making it hurt less or most miss and do almost nothing, the narrow spread of the romaro defends against that more than some other shotguns. The Romaro is the most consistent on a shot per shot bases but lacks the followup if rng did you dirty, back in my BF1 and BF5 days the only shotguns I liked were the double barrels as they were the best blast per trigger pull shotguns at the cost of slow followup shots. While I have not played with it, if the Alamo works like the bow with special rounds you can still have some regular buckshot + some of what you chose and given its faster fire that is not a bad trade off to lose out on 1 extra flavor of shotgun shell.
Shotguns being inconsistent is a feature, not a flaw. If they were consistent 100% they would substitute melee and other rifles. Although I do agree that not knowing when your going to fail is frustrating.
I just can’t understand how you can be so funny while insanely descriptive and fluid in all of your gun guides I’m supposed to learn here why am I laughing
With this gun being added, it's only fair to also add the magazine system for the martini henry, it would be the 1:1 rifle equivalent to the alamo and make for a cheaper but still faster firing long ammo rifle
My biggest (and probably only) gripe with the Alamo as of now is how easy it is to accidentaly cancel your reload. "Whoops I forgot to wait for the hunter to pull back the hammer before swapping weapon, time to repeat the whole thing". It's the only gun where I have to actively check the hud to make sure the next round is chambered, which makes it feel kinda clunky imo
sounds exactly like it should feel to me. when i heard it was coming to hunt i could see 2 possible outcomes. Best non semi auto shotgun that messes with verity or a clunky but functional gun that i would love as an aggressive player.
I hit the prestige button for the first time and now that I have nothing to lose I'm certainly playing like I have nothing to lose. Using the Romero like I have been since prestiging combined with the experience and understanding I have for the game now, I'm out there just knocking hunters to the ground and taking names. To borrow from R6:Siege, it's like playing Bandit with the M870 shotgun. It's fun to do and feels good.
I love that you mentioned my favorite meme load-out. Shoutout to that prestige where I played nothing but double romero hatchet from game 2 until prestiging. I was able to make it somewhat work by giving both hatchets half buckshot and half starshell. I got pretty good at hitting people with starshells when they were out of shotgun range which would put them in range for the swap and followup with buckshot.
How to make it work? Bring a Scottfield as backup for longer ranges, fight indoors and/or rush your opponents aggressively. The shorter your Romero is, the more aggressive you gotta be. Definitely my playstyle, when I don't have to fire 5 times with an expensive long rifle just to tag someone. I either hit them with the pellets and they die or I don't and I die. Simple, like Two Face's coin toss.
I find that the Alamo is just a straight upgrade if you want me to be perfectly honest its only tough in those situations where you burned all 5 shells and then have to sit there and watch your hunter scramble to move the transfer tube out of the way. Regardless the Romero is pound for pound the best shotgun in the game, I see three variants being actually good, the handcannon, the base version and the alamo all for less than $100. The Rival handcannon is $85 and has horrific range, the base Rival is $100 more than the Alamo, the Specters base variant which is how we will base the rest of the shotguns is $188 and the Slate is $250 with the C&K being $600. Out of all of these the Romero has the best range, damage, and spread pattern, the only thing it lacks is fire rate and mag capacity but for less than a quarter of a Slate or half a Specter I'd take the Alamo everyday cuz like HomeReel said its an uphill battle and thats regardless of the shotty youre using which is a problem that I feel like will forever be prevalent in Hunt. See you cant have shotguns be consistent spread monsters right, as in a fixed pattern, that would be stupid. You also dont have an answer to this issue unless you do something crazy like scale the damage to where the hitting pellets do the full damage of all the missed ones too but then that would be dumb as hell at range unless you scale back the damage idk its a big issue but its kinda the trade off of having shotguns in games. You cant make them the hyperlethal things they are in reality because then why use a rifle when a shotgun will do the same if not more damage at 50 yards but yeah the Romero is the best shotty no contest.
tbf for me the alamo is the opposite and always rather have normal one, more ammo in reserve, more flexibility since Alamo isnt all that faster and you need to play it like normal one, you can also animation skip on normal romero to speed up the reload which cant be said about Alamo. So Normal, Hatchet and Talon it is for me (no reason to not take Talon now unless you are rly hurting for money)
I love the Romero…. Because there have been other times I have shot someone in the chest with a shotgun and they have survived but with the Romero? Nah they going down, 99% of the time
the Romero is definitely my favorite gun in the game. It is definitely very inconsistent and has gotten me very frustrated in the past but the feeling of blasting someone who wasn’t expecting you back first into the mud or running into a boss room and getting 2 kills with one shot definitely outweighs any cons
When they added the alof kit for the Romero, I was a happy kamper. Standard Romero has been my favorite shotgun because of it's reliability compared to other shotguns currently in hunt.
Main advantage of Romero over other shotguns is that each individual pellet does more damage. That is why other long barrel shotguns have 12m kill range and Romero has 15m. And I know that when playing the shotguns, it seems like the spread is a huge random factor, but if you actually replay your hits without kill, usually you'll find out your aim was not quite right and spread had nothing to do with it even if it feels like it did. Getting kills at the edge of each shotgun's kill range requires you to aim almost directly in the middle of the upper torso. If you aim slightly left or slightly lower, you won't get the kill.
Was never a big fan of the Romero until I got the Alamo, and now it's become one of my favorites next to the Slate. Even if the fire rate only shaves off a second and a half or so compared to a standard Romero reload, it's saved my ass dozens of times.
Hmm. Your critiques for the Romero apply for all shotguns in hunt - RNG, spread mechanic/guessing, being generally outgunned everywhere except I-can-smell-you range, etc etc. In fact I would say that the Romero does these things the BEST out of the shotguns. So this video feels more like "here is why ALL shotguns in general are inferior to rifles," as any shotgun boy will tell you that there is pretty high variance between the shotguns and when/where each shines. And like I said above, the Romero in fact shines (compared to other shotties) in the very categories you mentioned =D.
I think people often credit the romero with having the most range (which is why I mention it in the intro) but my point is, having 5m of extra range doesn’t really matter when you are hamstrung by no follow up shots, a dependence on your secondary weapon, and no range outside of what a melee weapon could probably get you too (or the other shotguns that can at least fire again). Just my opinion though
Nice to hear, that it is not just my bad aim, if sometimes enemy Hunters survive my Romero shots point blank. :D Personally the Rival is my favorite pick for a shotgun and is probably the easiest to play. If an enemy survives the first shot or another one shows up the nearly instant follow up option with the second barrel comes in really handy. Although I already unlocked the Alamo I still have to try it for myself. A few weeks ago I kinda fell in love with the basic Springfield for some reason so I do not feel like playing shotguns at the moment. 😅
I feel like they made some changes to the consistency of one shot kills with shotguns a few months ago, I remember the shotguns being pretty consistent then an update came out and I was whiffing on a chest shot where we were basically touching noses, I may have gotten worse but this was when I was playing every single day and knew almost every weapon like the back of my hand
I play VERY aggressive so the Romero hatchet with Springfield compact with half dum dums is my go to cheapish loadout and it slaps. Dum dums often force people into cover which gives me opportunity to cover ground to then use the Romero hatchet. The Romero hatchet has clutched me so many rounds because of the following up with melee. It rewards pure aggression and it can pay in spades. I often to default to Romero hatchet because it is more forgiving for misses due to being able to follow up and mentally I place the one hit kill range real close so it often surprises me with how far I one tap people.
I got my first maxed out hunter by stealthing with a Romero and a Caldwell chain pistol back when I was a measly 3 star MMR. My love for the shotgun has not dulled since then, if you can get behind teams with it in the right spot, it's probably the easiest early gun to solo with
My personal favorite Romero loadout would be 2 Romero hatchets and a quad derringer so you can cover “long range” and you can double pump hunters like it’s season 2 of Fortnite and if you whiff you have ur trusty axe to finish them off
Honestly this gun has the most unique skill of always letting me down when i need it to kill and magically killing when i have no intention of doing so
I’ve been running vetterli with hv ammo and the Romero hand cannon with slugs and I’ve been loving it! I wiped 2 teams solo earlier today and it was epic!
Funny thing. Ive always preceved theromero as the most reliable shotgun in hunt. I‘ve always had a bit of a broken heart when playing the rival… interesting how subjective preception can work…
Ori good, my wife was 8th in the world for 100% glitchless speed running at one point! Real proud of her, and this video is also pretty dope. Also I love the Romero Hatchet
I had to take a breath to before I kept watching when you said you didn't like the Romero, i'm willing to look the other way since I like your videos though, looking forward to the sparks pistol video.
Romero is the best weapon in the game to me. It's cheap, has incredible range, but most importantly it teaches good overall mechanics that apply to other weapons. It forces you to ensure your aim is on point as you got one shot, and even if you hit that shot, you need to be ready to move and rotate as you reload to deal with other threats. I didn't really understand how to play Hunt well until I committed to learning the Romero.
Will you be doing a video on the new pump shotgun and new model army soon? I see lots of people using them but they feel severely underpowered in my hands.
Not to rob homereels content but the reason I enjoy each is that the slate is the fastest firing shotgun that still has decent range (looking at you crown and king). As for the new army, it fills a similar spot as the nagant officer as a fast firing, low power pistol. At that point it is personal preference which one you enjoy using more. It can take fmj which is nice, but not really needed if you plan on pairing it with a long ammo gun as a close range option.
I really love the romero. It's still probably second place to the classic double barrel, and I do love me some terminus with levering; but on a fresh character this long shotty really works for me. I find it's got the most reliable (for shotguns) shots, and the flexibility and large ammo pool is a pretty nice boon. The only reason I don't always pick it, is if I know I'm going to be pushing a building by myself, it's very awkward to run in, kill a guy, and then just be staring at his buddy for a few seconds. The alofs kind of solves my problem-sure you lose the shot flexibility, but that just brings it in line with all the other shotguns, and while it's slow, it still feels way faster than the normal romero and coupled with the strongest shotgun shot in the game, it's a beast. Now the specter on the other hand is hot garbage. That thing feels slower than the romero, and I swear it shoots dust.
@@Altrop Alright, yeah, that was a bit of a slip on my part. If I'm bringing the romero-it's the talon. You're still fucked if they're down a hall, but it is a solid panic option.
Romero Alamo with sparks pistol with fmj is really good. tag em with the pistol, then shoot ‘em with the Alamo, the chip damage is enough to kill after landing a shot with the pistol
I remember and this happened many times that i headshot a player really close to me like 3, 4 meters away with romero buckshot. It played the headshot sound effect but didn't kill. I was shocked after that. This happened to me in around the patch where there was a glitch and every wall disappeared from the buildings. After that i started using spectre which them also sucked for me so I chose c&k after that which to be honest cant easily 1 shot but you still have a high fire rate and more ammo. but it was expensive too so switch to romero hand cannon. It worked a lot for me as it had 10m range but a lot more spread so i killed a lot of people with that.
I love using shotgun, but god, Alamo’s biggest problem is how inconsistent and unsync its Alof reloading is. Sometime it looks like you already Alof reloaded but in actuality, it isn’t yet and the game only count once the whole animation done. This easily lead to accidental alof reload cancel. Tho it’s probably related to how Alof reload isn’t really reload but animations for next round. Hope they fix this problem
Hey Home! What do you think about doing an in depth look of how explosives work in Hunt? Seems like there isn't much knowledge about how they work and what their "rules" are.
the romero is just not inconsistent if you can’t kill someone with it, it is because you missed or you were more than 20 feet away plain and simple if you have to shoot someone 3 times because they aren’t within 20 feet you may want to run another gun im never out in the open i know people hate on shotgun users but someone who’s always being agroed by every monster no matter what i do and not being in the open trying to snipe because of the horrible render distance you can’t blame me for my 1.8 kd
I have recently discovered a legendary combination. The romero Hatchet and obrez mace; now I no longer need a melee tool to emphasize my own crippling mediocrity!
Haven't played for a while and came Back for the event. I was ok with the base romero but the alamo doesn"t work out for me, faster than the normal reload but not enough to use it any different. Although the spectre has and probably always will remain at my side in terms of consistency and teamwipes
Romero hatchet is very useful for solo snipers. Can help you push the last one, or stop the team for pushing too close. Plus if you take penny shot you can quickly do the boos and gtfo of the lair and wait for the others.
My thoughts on the alemo are that it’s not worth using against a regular Romero tbh, sure, you get 5 rounds to fire, but it takes around the same time to take another shot that it would with a regular Romero, so realistically it’s no real benefit, plus a regular Romero can take slugs with regular ammo or 2x special ammo
The best slugs in the game, just got better. The Alamo is a slug machine. Faster firerate, and only having one ammo type is a huge buff money wise. Running Romero slug went from $434 to $297. Thank you crytek for my new and improved mini Nitro!
The Romero is, no joke, my favorite gun in the game. I've honestly always found it pretty reliable. Terminus on the other hand is woefully unreliable. I pair the Romero with the officer or chain dumdum ammo with fanning.
...that conversion kit. THATS THE ONE IAN COVERED RECENTLY. And someone said they should put it in the game. Are the Hunt deves watching Forgotten weapons?!
The Romero is cursed for me, I never had this problem before and now I swear it is bugged. Everything feels like that clip of you at 5:25. I tried it like 10-20 times and had as many one shots as I did in 1 game of the terminus around the same time
Romero or just shotguns in general are not chosen by a player. The player are chosen by them. if i had to pick one gun type i would choose shotguns for they are the only gods i recognize.
If you find the romero inconsistent then i cant even imagine what you feel for the other shotguns! Romero talon and spitfire is my bread and butter build.
I love the romero and that's why I think I hate the Alamo. The Alamo just feels super clunky, and you have to use the same exact playstyle as you do with the romero anyways because of that slow reload. Yes, it is slightly faster to reload between shots mid gunfight but often I've found that just doesn't matter. You have to go for cover or dodge like a madman after each shot anyways, and you don't feel as cool with all the extra shots in the barrel. On top of that, if you do manage to run out of ammo mid fight you're essentially dead because the actual reload is super slow, which puts the romero Alamo at an extreme disadvantage in those teamfight situations where there's multiple teams and you're sure to use all your ammo in the chamber anyways. But, in a way I'm glad it sucks because I don't think there needs to be another shotgun in the game. The slate already covered that middle ground that was missing between specter and crown.
I seriously wonder why the starshells make a lot of noise while the flare gun doesn't. You're literally loading the same shell in both and it ruins whatever kind of niche use the starshells could've had
The Romero being inconsistent is a shotgun problem, not a Romero problem. It's ironic you'd say that because the Romero has the most consistent one shot kill in the game. I've point blank shot enemies In the chest with the specter and missed getting the kill.
difference is that when you use crown and cringe you can just keep shooting so RNG does not matter as much. RNG goes against you using romero? Well you are so slow that someone might just knife rush you. Its also why the rival is so loved before the slate took its place.
@@N0031inq if you are beyond like 4 meters the C&K becomes a tickle machine instead of a firearm, and it also kicks pretty decently. It also costs like $500. I think the c&k is generally pretty bad, you have to kiss your opponents to make it work.
To your other point I'm not a fan of the super slow action speed of the pump guns, being knife rushed in between shots is pretty frustrating.
And yeah the slate is pretty busted
Yeah, I feel like most of the complaints he had about the Romero can be resolved by improving your movement and positioning differently. You can avoid taking engagements in the "Royally screwed" area without too much problem, once you get into a compound the Romero absolutly decimates enemy hunters. The Romero is one of the best weapons in the game for defending OR pushing a banish site. It's an amazing weapon for solo play, I've wiped so many duos with it.
@@N0031inq Even though you can keep shooting with the crown and “cringe”, it only holds 5+6 reserve. So if you constantly need more than 2 shots to kill someone with a shotgun, why not just bring a Nagant Officer, New Army, Scottfield Spitfire or even Dolch? You can keep shooting those almost just as fast while being more consistent and ammo efficient. The Crown and King is overrated as hell after all the nerfs
I've had the opposite experience, the Romero hardly ever one shots upper chest when I'm close but whenever I use the specter I can hit someone in the toe and they seem to die. That said, I still love the Romero.
Oddly enough the Romero almost never lets me down but the Alamo seems to let me down kinda regularly.
And I thought it was just me. Glad someone else has noticed this.
That’s because if you cancel the Alamos slow auto-loading animation a second too soon, you can do it all over again
I love the standard Romero, can't stand the Alamo.
It’s just a straight up upgrade tho
@@cccspwn stat wise yeah it is, but for some reason I get much more consistent 1 hit kills with base Romero over the Alamo. It could just be luck but it could also be a misrepresented stat or something. Def wouldn't be the first time the displayed weapon stats are wrong
Not gonna lie I am a big Romero user and I think you are 100% right about the importance of play style in assesing the usefulness of a weapon. It's not an accident that I find myself using the exact sort of tactics you describe in this video most of the time when I play the game. The thing I will add is that I really find myself going to the Hatchet once I have it unlocked since, with such aggressive tactics, melee range is never really that far away and a lot more versatile than the slightly better accuracy of the handcannon. Also...you must being doing something right if Crytek adds a weapon to the game just to spite you XD.
Does the romero handcannon actually have tighter spread than the romero hatchet? They used to have different stats, but in patch 1.4 they both got buffed and now they have the same range/damage stats listed in the store page. As far as I know, there's less decision-making involved than you think; just always take the hatchet instead of the handcannon if you can.
@@Safety_Patrol That may be correct as I've not tested the spread myself and always take the hatchet if I can. I will have to test it in game.
@@apresmidi153 They should be identical except for cost and obviously the Hatchet's status as the best melee weapon in the game. It's so good as the big bitchin beauty whacker when you have quartermaster and some close to midrange rifle as your main gun
The hatchet has a wayyy worse spread than standard Romero for some reasom
"Oooh in the kneecap you love to see it" I had to do a double take before remembering that was me lmao.
Ori and the Blind Forest is one of the greatest games of all time and I was pleasantly surprised to hear you reference it in a Hunt gun guide of all places! One of my favorite parts of the second game was the variety of combat abilities, allowing the player to combine things like slicing melee attacks with ranged explosive shots.
Kind of like the Bomb Lance. Which you should still do a video on.
If you ever stop, I’m sending a wellness check
😂
False the best game of all time is purple Boi saves other dragons from angy green boi
something that I think is worth mentioning is that 95% of the time when a shotgun feels inconsistent, it turns out to be an aim issue.
I saw this, the shotgun spread for almost every shotgun is half of what the target reticle appears to be.
Absolutely love the Springie Compact Deadeye as a shotgun secondary, helps mediate that range disadvantage
sounds ok but you dont have that second shot after tag potentially, if it works and tou have fun thats all that matters tho
Let me guess, you use the time they take ti cover and heal after the shot to move into shotgun range. That's a good strategy, and a cheap loadout to boot.
Seriously, the springfield deadeye compact is the most underrated gun in the game. Give it some dum dum ammo and it is a beast of an opening weapon. Headshot and they die and the range and accuracy is surprising. Get a chest and that dude dude you hit has like 2 seconds to live or they die from bleeding so you can blast them then push so that they have to engage right before they bleed out. So, this combo is surprisingly deadly when you need a cheap load out.
Play style is definitely key.
Not a meme weapon at all.
I've been using pretty much nothing but the Romero Alamo since the update dropped. The Romero just feels a lot better than most of the other shotguns the extra range on the Romero gives you just a bit more freedom and margin for error on your positioning whereas the increased pellet spread and follow up shots of the other shotguns gives you more margin for error on your aim personally that a trade I'm definitely willing to make.
Extremely frustrating to get 1tapped at max range by an enemy romero just for yours to fail killing someone with 2 shots at 10 meters.
This exact thing happened to me 3 times last night. Switch to the specter and somehow one shotting again. I just don't understand it sometimes.
@@jradical6159 You would understand it if you stopped looking for patterns in small samples sizes of RNG
Yeah I feel you, last night at about 3m range I hit the guy with a romero shot, and a shot to the chest from the nagant revolver, but somehow he one taps me with the specter at the same range.
@@squidbad UM AKSHUALLY, I'M A KNOW IT ALL AND HAVE TERRIBLE PEOPLE SKILLS, SO I'M GOING TO CORRECT YOU REAL QUICK
The main problem i have with the Romero is how punishing it is to miss, it is arguably the strongest and most powerful shotgun in the game but it really requires the user to have good tracking and environmental awareness. I dont use it that much (even though i used to be a sparks user with no life) purely because of how frustrating it is to miss an impactful shot or get killed by the hunter’s teammate. I dont think the gun should be buffed or nerfed though… its still an extremely solid and cheap option that can give you some kills if you play to its advantage
For 34 dollars its one of the most balanced guns in the game imo
After the recent changes with barrel length efectiving the range of shotguns. The base specter has the same range as the Romero even though the stats don't show it.
People really overrate its longer range. It's only a +3m 1HK range compared to every other shotgun, and shotgun kills tend to be around 10m most of the time anyway.
I use the Caldwell double barrel with Flechette. It jusr works 😂
All it takes to LOVE the Romero is to expect it to take 2 shots to kill. That way you 1) learn to play around the reload and use cover to dominate other players, and 2) you’re pleasantly surprised when it does kill in 1… 😉
In all seriousness it is a great budget weapon, there are $500 dollar guns that are far less effective than it in certain situations. The Alamo is also well balanced, for around $100 you have a slightly slower specter that can still be used to effectively wipe teams, albeit not as quickly as a specter or slate.
It's not slightly slower, it's twice as slow compared to the specter. Makes the alamo pretty pointless to me, since you only shoot around 0.5s faster compared to a regular romero
@@cassidy8307 it’s also twice as cheap. I’m not saying the Alamo is goated or anything, a normal Romero is just about as good. It’s fun and funky though, and can still kill people so I’ll take it
5:35 - My Movement Got Me Into A HomeReel Video
Y’all make it look easy ♥️
You already nailed the point that the Romero doesn't match your play style. For players who struggle to utilize things like long ammo to their full extent, because they suck at precision aiming (me), the Romero is an excellent choice for perkless loadouts. I personally love to pair it with the Scottfield Spitfire with FMJ. Played aggressively and quickly, this can easily carry you to 5 star lobbies.
Something not covered in the video is that if you're bringing along a Romero, you shouldn't be using it as your primary form of aggression. It's a VERY powerful one shot opener that should immediately be swapped after firing to capitalize on the pressure done by the damage (if it doesn't 1-tap). I only have my Romero out when I know it's to my advantage. Otherwise, I'm holding a midrange and fast firing pistol.
Personally, my only gripe with the Alamo is that it's a long barrel with multiple shots with access to slugs that requires no traits... Right after they nerfed the slate with slugs for that exact premise... And it's radically cheaper than the slate... We're gonna see it a lot.
The Romero Hatchet with dragons breath is the way to go. It may not have the one tap power that you could have with the full sized romero with slugs, but it makes up for that with the fear you will teach to those unfortunate enough to be set on fire and chased with an axe.
The randomness of the kills with buckshot really goes down if you treat it more like a slug shotgun and aim it instead of hip-firing. Since the spread of the pellets is so thin the romero whiffs a lot more at close range if not properly aimed. Pennyshot helps a lot in this regard, sacrificing some range (although it can still surprise in that regard) for a lot more consistency in short range scenarios. Also pennyshot is a huge help for quickly dispatching bosses. For the Alamo I found it best to just play it like the regular version and enjoy the slight benefit of a higher rof while slipping in and out of cover, it's still way to slow to stand your ground if the first hit didn't kill, swapping to the sidearm also still makes a lot of sense.
A few notes:
The area of useful vs useless is a problem with literally every shotgun (every weapon to a degree) but the Romero gets hurt the least by it. Each shotgun only has a short effective range and beyond that they suck but the romero's tighter spread keeps it more useful for longer.
Pellets missing is just the nature of shotguns, since your shot breaks apart you can have all pellets hit the target dealing devastating damage, some peel off making it hurt less or most miss and do almost nothing, the narrow spread of the romaro defends against that more than some other shotguns.
The Romaro is the most consistent on a shot per shot bases but lacks the followup if rng did you dirty, back in my BF1 and BF5 days the only shotguns I liked were the double barrels as they were the best blast per trigger pull shotguns at the cost of slow followup shots.
While I have not played with it, if the Alamo works like the bow with special rounds you can still have some regular buckshot + some of what you chose and given its faster fire that is not a bad trade off to lose out on 1 extra flavor of shotgun shell.
Romero, schofield with FMJ. Budget loadout of the gods.
60% of the time it works every time.
Take a spitfire for the sidearm instead. It's only about $30 more for 2x the firerate
Shotguns being inconsistent is a feature, not a flaw. If they were consistent 100% they would substitute melee and other rifles. Although I do agree that not knowing when your going to fail is frustrating.
Tbh I haven't used the Romero all that often either, until the Alofs appeared.
And now I still get more kills with the Rival despite its worse spread.
The Rival is god-tier. who needs longer range when you have 2 barrels baby! (still has good 1 tap range with a single barrel too)
@@Bishop1664 That is very true. But I stil LIKE the Romero, just wish I could use it more reliably.
I just can’t understand how you can be so funny while insanely descriptive and fluid in all of your gun guides I’m supposed to learn here why am I laughing
With this gun being added, it's only fair to also add the magazine system for the martini henry, it would be the 1:1 rifle equivalent to the alamo and make for a cheaper but still faster firing long ammo rifle
My biggest (and probably only) gripe with the Alamo as of now is how easy it is to accidentaly cancel your reload. "Whoops I forgot to wait for the hunter to pull back the hammer before swapping weapon, time to repeat the whole thing". It's the only gun where I have to actively check the hud to make sure the next round is chambered, which makes it feel kinda clunky imo
Alamo just feels super clunky to me. Will stick with the specter for the time being
sounds exactly like it should feel to me. when i heard it was coming to hunt i could see 2 possible outcomes. Best non semi auto shotgun that messes with verity or a clunky but functional gun that i would love as an aggressive player.
The Romero mixed with the LeMat Mark ll with the fanning and another single shot short barrel shotty is a fun combo at times
I hit the prestige button for the first time and now that I have nothing to lose I'm certainly playing like I have nothing to lose. Using the Romero like I have been since prestiging combined with the experience and understanding I have for the game now, I'm out there just knocking hunters to the ground and taking names. To borrow from R6:Siege, it's like playing Bandit with the M870 shotgun. It's fun to do and feels good.
I love that you mentioned my favorite meme load-out. Shoutout to that prestige where I played nothing but double romero hatchet from game 2 until prestiging.
I was able to make it somewhat work by giving both hatchets half buckshot and half starshell. I got pretty good at hitting people with starshells when they were out of shotgun range which would put them in range for the swap and followup with buckshot.
How to make it work? Bring a Scottfield as backup for longer ranges, fight indoors and/or rush your opponents aggressively. The shorter your Romero is, the more aggressive you gotta be.
Definitely my playstyle, when I don't have to fire 5 times with an expensive long rifle just to tag someone. I either hit them with the pellets and they die or I don't and I die. Simple, like Two Face's coin toss.
I find that the Alamo is just a straight upgrade if you want me to be perfectly honest its only tough in those situations where you burned all 5 shells and then have to sit there and watch your hunter scramble to move the transfer tube out of the way. Regardless the Romero is pound for pound the best shotgun in the game, I see three variants being actually good, the handcannon, the base version and the alamo all for less than $100. The Rival handcannon is $85 and has horrific range, the base Rival is $100 more than the Alamo, the Specters base variant which is how we will base the rest of the shotguns is $188 and the Slate is $250 with the C&K being $600. Out of all of these the Romero has the best range, damage, and spread pattern, the only thing it lacks is fire rate and mag capacity but for less than a quarter of a Slate or half a Specter I'd take the Alamo everyday cuz like HomeReel said its an uphill battle and thats regardless of the shotty youre using which is a problem that I feel like will forever be prevalent in Hunt. See you cant have shotguns be consistent spread monsters right, as in a fixed pattern, that would be stupid. You also dont have an answer to this issue unless you do something crazy like scale the damage to where the hitting pellets do the full damage of all the missed ones too but then that would be dumb as hell at range unless you scale back the damage idk its a big issue but its kinda the trade off of having shotguns in games. You cant make them the hyperlethal things they are in reality because then why use a rifle when a shotgun will do the same if not more damage at 50 yards but yeah the Romero is the best shotty no contest.
tbf for me the alamo is the opposite and always rather have normal one, more ammo in reserve, more flexibility since Alamo isnt all that faster and you need to play it like normal one, you can also animation skip on normal romero to speed up the reload which cant be said about Alamo. So Normal, Hatchet and Talon it is for me (no reason to not take Talon now unless you are rly hurting for money)
I love the Romero…. Because there have been other times I have shot someone in the chest with a shotgun and they have survived but with the Romero? Nah they going down, 99% of the time
the Romero is definitely my favorite gun in the game. It is definitely very inconsistent and has gotten me very frustrated in the past but the feeling of blasting someone who wasn’t expecting you back first into the mud or running into a boss room and getting 2 kills with one shot definitely outweighs any cons
When they added the alof kit for the Romero, I was a happy kamper. Standard Romero has been my favorite shotgun because of it's reliability compared to other shotguns currently in hunt.
I’m just here to say that the extra O joke made me quite literally spit-take my drink, well played sir
Main advantage of Romero over other shotguns is that each individual pellet does more damage. That is why other long barrel shotguns have 12m kill range and Romero has 15m.
And I know that when playing the shotguns, it seems like the spread is a huge random factor, but if you actually replay your hits without kill, usually you'll find out your aim was not quite right and spread had nothing to do with it even if it feels like it did. Getting kills at the edge of each shotgun's kill range requires you to aim almost directly in the middle of the upper torso. If you aim slightly left or slightly lower, you won't get the kill.
This game needs more 1,000 year old elf princesses.
Was never a big fan of the Romero until I got the Alamo, and now it's become one of my favorites next to the Slate. Even if the fire rate only shaves off a second and a half or so compared to a standard Romero reload, it's saved my ass dozens of times.
Hmm. Your critiques for the Romero apply for all shotguns in hunt - RNG, spread mechanic/guessing, being generally outgunned everywhere except I-can-smell-you range, etc etc.
In fact I would say that the Romero does these things the BEST out of the shotguns. So this video feels more like "here is why ALL shotguns in general are inferior to rifles," as any shotgun boy will tell you that there is pretty high variance between the shotguns and when/where each shines. And like I said above, the Romero in fact shines (compared to other shotties) in the very categories you mentioned =D.
Actually Shotbolt is the best version out of all shotguns.
I think people often credit the romero with having the most range (which is why I mention it in the intro) but my point is, having 5m of extra range doesn’t really matter when you are hamstrung by no follow up shots, a dependence on your secondary weapon, and no range outside of what a melee weapon could probably get you too (or the other shotguns that can at least fire again). Just my opinion though
So that's how they'll get people to buy charms, anime girl's
"My heart has been broken too many times" is a perfect description for the Romero.
The Ori reference at 2:25 absolutely blindsided me, pun intended
0:35 WOW thats some unfortunate flinch
Nice to hear, that it is not just my bad aim, if sometimes enemy Hunters survive my Romero shots point blank. :D
Personally the Rival is my favorite pick for a shotgun and is probably the easiest to play. If an enemy survives the first shot or another one shows up the nearly instant follow up option with the second barrel comes in really handy. Although I already unlocked the Alamo I still have to try it for myself. A few weeks ago I kinda fell in love with the basic Springfield for some reason so I do not feel like playing shotguns at the moment. 😅
I feel like they made some changes to the consistency of one shot kills with shotguns a few months ago, I remember the shotguns being pretty consistent then an update came out and I was whiffing on a chest shot where we were basically touching noses, I may have gotten worse but this was when I was playing every single day and knew almost every weapon like the back of my hand
Hitting an enemy with starshell and yelling "He's tagged!" is fucking hilarious
I play VERY aggressive so the Romero hatchet with Springfield compact with half dum dums is my go to cheapish loadout and it slaps. Dum dums often force people into cover which gives me opportunity to cover ground to then use the Romero hatchet.
The Romero hatchet has clutched me so many rounds because of the following up with melee. It rewards pure aggression and it can pay in spades.
I often to default to Romero hatchet because it is more forgiving for misses due to being able to follow up and mentally I place the one hit kill range real close so it often surprises me with how far I one tap people.
Ramero with the pax is still one of my favorite load outs . Though the compact ammo pistols have grown on me as well
I got my first maxed out hunter by stealthing with a Romero and a Caldwell chain pistol back when I was a measly 3 star MMR. My love for the shotgun has not dulled since then, if you can get behind teams with it in the right spot, it's probably the easiest early gun to solo with
No headshots? *insert megamind no bitches face here*
My personal favorite Romero loadout would be 2 Romero hatchets and a quad derringer so you can cover “long range” and you can double pump hunters like it’s season 2 of Fortnite and if you whiff you have ur trusty axe to finish them off
My goto loudout when I started the game was mosin with handcannon. The range and damage is so good for a sawed off version
Honestly this gun has the most unique skill of always letting me down when i need it to kill and magically killing when i have no intention of doing so
Romero Hatchet and Obrez Mace combo, mwah, chefs kiss
The Mentos and Coca-Cola line was great 😂
I’ve been running vetterli with hv ammo and the Romero hand cannon with slugs and I’ve been loving it! I wiped 2 teams solo earlier today and it was epic!
Funny thing. Ive always preceved theromero as the most reliable shotgun in hunt. I‘ve always had a bit of a broken heart when playing the rival… interesting how subjective preception can work…
The alamo has quickly become my go to shotgun because Im usually a romero purist anyways, but I can see how some people might be turned off to it
Romero talon has gotten me so many kills. Just the talon part
Ori good, my wife was 8th in the world for 100% glitchless speed running at one point! Real proud of her, and this video is also pretty dope. Also I love the Romero Hatchet
I had to take a breath to before I kept watching when you said you didn't like the Romero, i'm willing to look the other way since I like your videos though, looking forward to the sparks pistol video.
Romero is the best weapon in the game to me. It's cheap, has incredible range, but most importantly it teaches good overall mechanics that apply to other weapons. It forces you to ensure your aim is on point as you got one shot, and even if you hit that shot, you need to be ready to move and rotate as you reload to deal with other threats.
I didn't really understand how to play Hunt well until I committed to learning the Romero.
I agree, but replace the Romero with the crossbow ;) jk, both are great
The Romero 77 is my favorite gun in the game - this new variant is a cool and welcome addition in my opinion :D
The Romero is more useful when picked up in response to a situation.
Then brought into match with the intention to find the situation.
Will you be doing a video on the new pump shotgun and new model army soon? I see lots of people using them but they feel severely underpowered in my hands.
yes
Not to rob homereels content but the reason I enjoy each is that the slate is the fastest firing shotgun that still has decent range (looking at you crown and king). As for the new army, it fills a similar spot as the nagant officer as a fast firing, low power pistol. At that point it is personal preference which one you enjoy using more. It can take fmj which is nice, but not really needed if you plan on pairing it with a long ammo gun as a close range option.
I respect the "It might be great, I dunno. But I hate it" because that's where I am with it too
Not gonna lie, I use the Alamo with my sawed off mosin every time I can. It’s so fun for me. Hit them once with the mosin and quick swap to a hip fire
In my group, we call the Romero the God Gun. The Alamo is just a gross and ridiculously fun.
Omg i was hoping for this to be in the game, coolest thing i've seen on youtube.
I really love the romero.
It's still probably second place to the classic double barrel, and I do love me some terminus with levering; but on a fresh character this long shotty really works for me.
I find it's got the most reliable (for shotguns) shots, and the flexibility and large ammo pool is a pretty nice boon. The only reason I don't always pick it, is if I know I'm going to be pushing a building by myself, it's very awkward to run in, kill a guy, and then just be staring at his buddy for a few seconds.
The alofs kind of solves my problem-sure you lose the shot flexibility, but that just brings it in line with all the other shotguns, and while it's slow, it still feels way faster than the normal romero and coupled with the strongest shotgun shot in the game, it's a beast.
Now the specter on the other hand is hot garbage. That thing feels slower than the romero, and I swear it shoots dust.
@@Altrop Alright, yeah, that was a bit of a slip on my part.
If I'm bringing the romero-it's the talon.
You're still fucked if they're down a hall, but it is a solid panic option.
Romero Alamo with sparks pistol with fmj is really good. tag em with the pistol, then shoot ‘em with the Alamo, the chip damage is enough to kill after landing a shot with the pistol
Romero Hatchet is in my top 3 guns in the game. It goes Martini, Schofield and Romero Hatchet
I remember and this happened many times that i headshot a player really close to me like 3, 4 meters away with romero buckshot. It played the headshot sound effect but didn't kill. I was shocked after that. This happened to me in around the patch where there was a glitch and every wall disappeared from the buildings. After that i started using spectre which them also sucked for me so I chose c&k after that which to be honest cant easily 1 shot but you still have a high fire rate and more ammo. but it was expensive too so switch to romero hand cannon. It worked a lot for me as it had 10m range but a lot more spread so i killed a lot of people with that.
I miss my budget loadout . Romero and Cadwell conversion pistol
I love using shotgun, but god, Alamo’s biggest problem is how inconsistent and unsync its Alof reloading is.
Sometime it looks like you already Alof reloaded but in actuality, it isn’t yet and the game only count once the whole animation done. This easily lead to accidental alof reload cancel. Tho it’s probably related to how Alof reload isn’t really reload but animations for next round. Hope they fix this problem
Hey Home! What do you think about doing an in depth look of how explosives work in Hunt? Seems like there isn't much knowledge about how they work and what their "rules" are.
the romero is just not inconsistent if you can’t kill someone with it, it is because you missed or you were more than 20 feet away plain and simple if you have to shoot someone 3 times because they aren’t within 20 feet you may want to run another gun im never out in the open i know people hate on shotgun users but someone who’s always being agroed by every monster no matter what i do and not being in the open trying to snipe because of the horrible render distance you can’t blame me for my 1.8 kd
I have recently discovered a legendary combination. The romero Hatchet and obrez mace; now I no longer need a melee tool to emphasize my own crippling mediocrity!
My tip for shotguns in this game is if the hip fire cross hair doesn't cover the chest you aren't close enough.
Haven't played for a while and came Back for the event. I was ok with the base romero but the alamo doesn"t work out for me, faster than the normal reload but not enough to use it any different.
Although the spectre has and probably always will remain at my side in terms of consistency and teamwipes
Romero hatchet is very useful for solo snipers.
Can help you push the last one, or stop the team for pushing too close.
Plus if you take penny shot you can quickly do the boos and gtfo of the lair and wait for the others.
My thoughts on the alemo are that it’s not worth using against a regular Romero tbh, sure, you get 5 rounds to fire, but it takes around the same time to take another shot that it would with a regular Romero, so realistically it’s no real benefit, plus a regular Romero can take slugs with regular ammo or 2x special ammo
The best slugs in the game, just got better. The Alamo is a slug machine. Faster firerate, and only having one ammo type is a huge buff money wise. Running Romero slug went from $434 to $297. Thank you crytek for my new and improved mini Nitro!
The Romero is, no joke, my favorite gun in the game. I've honestly always found it pretty reliable. Terminus on the other hand is woefully unreliable. I pair the Romero with the officer or chain dumdum ammo with fanning.
I don’t use the Romero often. But when I do, it feels oh so good
Sucks that you can't tell from the bang if your opponent has the fast or slow reloading one.
I love the romero! The one shot in the chamber makes it more fun since if you miss your fucked.
Unless it's pointblank shotguns are very inconsistent in term of oneshot so i much prefer the double barrel for that follow up shot
...that conversion kit. THATS THE ONE IAN COVERED RECENTLY.
And someone said they should put it in the game.
Are the Hunt deves watching Forgotten weapons?!
The Alamo with Dragon Breath is like a Specter with Dragon Breath - but more enjoyable.
Hey I think hunt:showdown is the first game I've seen use the Alofs auto reloaded for single shot guns.
Thought for dark tunnels and night hunts, Lemat FMJ/Starshell
It may be your experience with shotguns in general, because Romero is the most consistent shotgun with the tightest pellet spread.
The Romero is cursed for me, I never had this problem before and now I swear it is bugged. Everything feels like that clip of you at 5:25. I tried it like 10-20 times and had as many one shots as I did in 1 game of the terminus around the same time
Romero or just shotguns in general are not chosen by a player. The player are chosen by them. if i had to pick one gun type i would choose shotguns for they are the only gods i recognize.
Haha the Ori "Ooohm"
If you find the romero inconsistent then i cant even imagine what you feel for the other shotguns!
Romero talon and spitfire is my bread and butter build.
Homereel, thank you for helping me get my friend into this game! Have a great day.
Remember enemy the romero hatchet did 90 damage vs the handcannon did 140? Pain.
The thumbnail should have said “Romero the Alamo”
I love the romero and that's why I think I hate the Alamo. The Alamo just feels super clunky, and you have to use the same exact playstyle as you do with the romero anyways because of that slow reload. Yes, it is slightly faster to reload between shots mid gunfight but often I've found that just doesn't matter. You have to go for cover or dodge like a madman after each shot anyways, and you don't feel as cool with all the extra shots in the barrel. On top of that, if you do manage to run out of ammo mid fight you're essentially dead because the actual reload is super slow, which puts the romero Alamo at an extreme disadvantage in those teamfight situations where there's multiple teams and you're sure to use all your ammo in the chamber anyways.
But, in a way I'm glad it sucks because I don't think there needs to be another shotgun in the game. The slate already covered that middle ground that was missing between specter and crown.
Hunt needs to pull a Seige, and make one pellet hit dead center of the reticle. The rest are rng spread.
So YOU'RE the reason why waifus and katanas are in Hunt now! >:(
I seriously wonder why the starshells make a lot of noise while the flare gun doesn't. You're literally loading the same shell in both and it ruins whatever kind of niche use the starshells could've had