2016 13" Macbook Pro Review - How is This a Pro Laptop?!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Dave2D review of 2016 13" Macbook Pro (Without OLED Touchbar) Covering build, gaming, video editing.
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This laptop is SUPER easy to hate on, but can we not turn the comments section into a pile anal rot? =) Thanks for watching 2d fam!
just like the guys over the aw13 video
Dave Lee probably unoptimized to run Minesweeper and Crysis at 60fps.
*TLDR: get a USB Killer drive and smash that sh*t in, and look for refurb. models*.
Dave Lee Man how are you so calm. What's your mantra.
is nice design, will you make a review to the one with the touch bar?
Dave Lee Dave, what's a good website to download lossless, or full HD wallpapers? Appreciate the content by the way!
I am starting to love this youtuber. His review feels honest unlike sooo many others.
He's both objectively stating positive and negative aspects without judging too much but gives reasonable information and tips right along his reviews.
This approach is gonna get you far Dave!
Watch the review from Louis Rossmann, that thing has massive problems with the USB ports and wifi.
Lukas T off course you can't buy d2d
Agreed. First UA-cam reviewer I've seen who's honest. Some of the iPhone reviews are lies.
I was his 5000th Sub. I always knew he was gonna become huge.
Lukas T I agree. he's one of the better tech reviewers I've subbed to
Love ya Dave! Thanks for showing my video!
Awesome work.
When is that? I would like to know. Time pls..
At the display portion :)
Hi canoopsy love your vids
After seeing the 2016 macbook pro I decided to purchase a refurbished 2015 model. Absolutely no regrets!
How is it now? I am thinking of getting a maxed out 2015 15 inch later this year.
@@therealcoolpup3196 i just got 2015 pro a month ago. Mostly because of all these adaptors but that also the keyboard as well. So far, no regrets
I’m deciding to switch my maxed out 2015 15” MacBook Pro for maybe 2016/2017
90% of MacBook owners buy a $1500 laptop to just browse the internet, check their emails, etc.
Satyam Patel If you want to do more stuff this isnt the one you should get anyway
and to let people around them know they are technologically illiterate. Can't forget that one.
why would you buy a pro laptop then
it's sad but true
you can get a chromebook too
It's not a Pro laptop. It's just an ultrabook for Rich college students now.
I just ordered mine (15"). Am upgrading from my 4 year old MacBook Pro which I just sold online for $1600. So my new MacBook Pro really only cost me $900. I thought long and hard wether I'll miss the ports, but then I realised I haven't used a single port on my MBP for at least 3 years, so I think I'll be fine. As for the overall specs, I was actually still fine with the speed of my current MBP and Apple promises around 50% - 100% more performance, so I'm very happy overall.
Superb review. Concise with all the relevant information. Very few reviewers do this. Most reviewers are too long winded and cover things we don't need to know OR are obvious anyway. So, I thank you and will look for your reviews in the future!
In next apple event, apple should "upgrade" its CEO
HE HE touche 😂😂
LOL! Apple spends more time and money pushing the head up her ass corrupt Hillary than designing a truly capable computer.
they don't have the COURAGE to do that
Agreed!!! Tim Cook has ruined Apple, releasing iPhone 7 which is the same as iPhone 6 and now this crap
HE HE removes ceo bc ceos are soo last year
this channel can't even change my mind...apple really dropped the ball on this one.
Jogie Glen Mait yeah, I still want a Surfacebook.
AllegedlySpiffy have one never give it back
As the owner of a Surface Book, do it, you won't regret it! I owned a Macbook Pro in the past and I'd buy the Surface Book over a Macbook any day!
Mate you have money
I'd rather buy the previous MacBook Pro
how? unless you like paying for overpriced shit then good for you
The intro song makes this channel amazing!
agree!
apple started making computers for apple - not for their consumers
Same with most of their other products and services, and it really shows sometimes.
true. they are selling the computers for money they might as well be buying their own stuff.
GlowBox so true
bleach the person means they are trying to make money and don’t care about the convenience of their consumers
I think this is the beginning of the end for the Mac line. If it does go downhill from here then Apple have deserved every bit of it. I find it hard to believe many people are going to buy these at their current price points but then again there are a lot of people that buy Apple products just because it's Apple. I'm even thinking of getting rid of my 2015 MacBook Pro just out of principle. For me at least, with every new hardware release just comes more anger and frustration. People need to wake up and take a stand and stop thinking "I could learn to get used to it". Apple have no direction with their Mac line and the addition of the touch bar is evidence of this.
Excellent review though!
James Chambers I actually did that very thing and swapped over to the surface pro 4, although I'm really tempted with a book to be fair. I remember why apple use to be the industry standard for a lot of things. Need to code? You can do that no problem on a mac. Photography? No problem. Video editing? Easy. But now I just feel their putting profit first at the expense of a lot of their more professional users. It's one of the reasons I'm trying to switch to Microsoft, watch any of their presentations and they talk about how great their users are and how each new feature is intended to innovate and push forward what their users can do, I just don't get that impression any more from apple.
James Chambers totally agree
Probably the most impartial review of the new 2016 13" MBP. I can't wait to pick mine up, I'm getting the MBP with touch bar! Thanks for the review Dave!
I agree :) I find it fascinating though there has been a lot of flack about the macbook pro's yet there seems to be 4-5 week wait in both touch bar models and that delay is increasing. So it seems people are still ordering.
trishan17 yea orders are definitely backed up.
trishan17 those who care the most will scream the loudest. there will always be sales at launch since it's apple, but the real answer is over the longer run and whether sales have been affected
"So it seems people are still ordering" - the world will never have shortage of the unwise. as it is said, a fool and its money are soon parted.
***** Good point about seeing whether sales have been affected in the longer run. In my opinion I am just surprised cause theres seems to be so much hate around the web and on youtube. Yet end of year quarterly sales are predicted to be at the highest they have ever had apparently for Macs. It seems interesting thats all.
meanwhile im here with my 2011 macbook pro that still works great and is reasonably fast
Me too! I upgraded the storage from the base 320GB mechanical to a 500GB SSD and it's lightning fast for what I need it for. Maxing out the RAM to 8GB also helps tremendously. I can play Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 on it just fine.
Michael Pan I'm here with a 2009. 500gb 7200rpm, and a 1tb hard drive where the disk drive is. Still handles everything I throw at it, but somehow not connecting to an external display.
Installed an Samsung SSD in the same model, runs really nicely. Adobe programs still work great.
RockstarMAX1 I'm going to buy one, and install the HDD in my 09 mac mini that i got for $25.
Maxing out the RAM and putting in a SSHD improves them greatly. Can still handle most things.
Great and fair review Dave! Just curious though, you said you think this is the best 13" display on the market. Do you really think that? I was able to view both this and the QHD+ XPS 13 almost side by side last night at Best Buy. I have to say, the XPS display, in my opinion, blew this one out of the water.
I played with the new MacBook Pro first, and was so impressed at the display, especially coming from my MacBook Air's awful display. But then I went over to the XPS and wow, it was far better than anything I'd seen.
+rancwr the qhd+ screen is actually used in the video. I use both the Xps 13/15 regularly. I prefer the macbook screen. Brighter screen. better colours out of the box. Better glass surface. The xps is VERY close on image quality and has a much thinner bezel AND touch, but I'd pick the macbook for best image between the 2
Thanks Dave. I'm not so certain, but I guess they're close enough to be somewhat subjective.
I'm so torn. I've been waiting for a new MacBook Pro for so long but there are so many things about it that have me debating to go with it or the XPS (a surprisingly awesome machine I only really explored after the disappointing MacBook announcement); the horrible keyboard, the plethora of dongles I'm going to need, the PRICE! :) ...all that said, I have an Apple ecosystem at home so not having a MacBook would be a big hole in that. This base model is too underpowered so I'd need to get one of the touch models making it even pricier. Urgh. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
How do you think the razer blade 2016 QHD compares to the new Macbook Pro screen in terms of image quality? Great review and I hope you're watching blizzcon :)
WZRD-FX I had the same question. And what about Razer's 4K display on the stealth?
Havr you tried plugging in power cables in all the points at the same time
Dave never fails to impress me in reviews. I like how he's calm in every review, even this 2016 MacBook review.
TBH I don't think this should be called MacBook Pro lol
Great review tho Dave 👍
Btw Dave can you do a gaming video on this MacBook?
Why not? The Pro in this MacBook Pro doesn't stand for PROfessional, it actually stands for PROfit.
wwbdwwbd holy shit that makes sense
Your easily the best laptop reviewer on UA-cam! You review laptops without any bias which is VERY rare!
apple premium pricing = being over priced this is not me trolling is just me stating a fact. Apple prices it this way just because they can
Overpriced? Try robbery, outright theft, and fraud. Apple wasn't like this when Steve was still alive. They actually gave you good value for the money. Now they just give you something underpowered, anorexic, and neutered and charge you 20-30% more for it.
Courage my ass. Apple, go fuck yourselves! My 2012 MacBook Pro is the last Mac I will buy.
I agree with you, but they don´t target most people like PC´s do, they target a niche of the market and this niche is willing to pay the price because the build quality is just the best, the software is smoother than windows and the connectivity with other apple devices like iphone. I now have a macbook pro, but I´ve been looking at HP´s specter 360 and it looks amazing and the price is good, but the build quality when compared to the macbook is good but not great, the mouse is also good, not great, the screen is ok, but not great, but the macbook does cost around $400 more plus dongles.
GAMING REVIEW PLEASE!!!
The101Pianist gaming on a Mac book? not a chance lol
The101Pianist I found this laptop very satisfying when gaming. I play League of Legends a lot, I know there are better computers and all, but it open the game in less than 4 seconds after clicking it, frames are above 120, graphics are really nice, and loading speed of everything is overall excellent. Bad comments are of those people who can't afford one and start leaving bad reviews.
Nate B Thank you for your honest review. I really appreciate sensible people like you. It's perfect because i play lol a lot as well but wasn't sure if the feedback or travel of the keyboard good enough to feel "tactile" whilst pressing keys.
Cool but the Macbook always had a fast SSD, so of course your gonna load your league game quick.
The101Pianist if you are looking for a gaming laptop get asus laptop with full gtx 1060 for 1400
This is by far the most honest & well thought out review of the new base MacBook Pro yet. I've had mine for a week too and agree with all the points you've made in this video - a good machine all round, even if it is pricey. Lots of other youtube reviewers just wrote the machine off from the spec sheet because they cut the ports & increased the price. Thanks Dave for actually giving us a review from a user's experience. This video reaffirmed for me why you're my go to tech reviewer on youtube (along with MKBHD) and why you have got my subscription!
Oh SHIT! I'm in the AD and haven't watched yet but oh SHIT just by looking at the title there might FINALLY be a REAL review!! I'm impressed!
I rather buy the 2015 model. Cheaper, similar in spec and has all the ports with macsafe. Same screen too. Then wait till Apple update next year cause I aren't spending for all the dongles. I have nothing with USB C connection with me. Nothing!
Nobody does. Apple just likes it because it's "minimalist" and simple.
AGFuzzyPancake minimal but practical. Not form over matter. Now it's like we r buying a Gucci bag.
Nara P agree with you for the most part except for the the "exact same screen". Well no, 500 nits of brightness versus 300 that's a huge difference just right there.
Ale Zuvic come on dont tell me you turn the brightness up to the max. I just got it at a 1/3. How bright would u like it? Those r just marketing talk.
Nara P nah, most of the time it goes between 25% to 60% depending on the hour of the day and what I'm doing (coding isn't the same as watching a movie). But the 500 nits are a great feature for those who like to bring their laptops outside (I work from home so I admit it isn't very normal to go work by the pool LOL).
The 67% more contrast and wider color gamut are great for photographers and designers. Amateur photographer here.
You are the best, unbiased and most amazing laptop reviewer on UA-cam.
The title says it all people. Review without the use of commercials, nice job. I just need 4 things from a laptop, Autocad, 3ds max, Eclipse SDK/Visual Studio and Adobe Premiere. And just an opinion, a dual core laptop for that price is too much.
I would love to see a video dedicated to testing it's gaming capabilities😁✌🏽
Sam Felton I wouldn't get a Mac for gaming. Where did you read that?
Nik Holloman 'I would love to see a video dedicated to testing its gaming capabilities' I was referring to anyone getting a mac for gaming, as why would you want to see its ability to game if you don't want it for gaming. That's like getting a Apple TV and testing its gaming ability, sure I guess it could do that; but it isn't made for it so it isn't gunna be any good for it
Sam Felton I own a MacBook Pro and use it primarily for school work but, I do some light gaming. I like apple's Mac OS. That's keeping me from moving to windows. If the newer mac could handle heavier gameplay then I would consider buying it. I don't think anyone buys a Mac for gaming but, it's an added bonus if it could handle some good titles.
Nik Holloman ah okay, in that case i get it :D
Nik Holloman try esports titles (ie. Overwatch, CSGO, dota etc) can be run at 768 or 800p resolution on mid to low settings at about 60 fps and bethesda games (fallout and skyrim) can be run at low to mid with about 40fps
i wish they would make a 15" with no oled bar
I think my favourite two things about this laptop are: 1. the fact they finally offer Space Grey as an option and 2. the bigger trackpad.
That's seriously it. As a PC user, two of the main things I've been jealous about are MagSafe and the killer battery life. One no longer exists and the other isn't nearly as hard to find in Windows-based alternatives!
With all the praise of it's "25% more colours" display and hearing rumours of possible DCI-P3 colour space... seeing a calibrated result of only 74% AdobeRGB is laughable. Razer's base model displays do better our of the box and they aren't being marketed at creatives. Dell's XPS line is a step above and more!
Sure the base model is supposed to replace the Air. But it's far more expensive and you actually lose ports from an already freakishly thin device! The only laptop the MacBook Pro has more ports than is the laughable MacBook itself. As a photographer using CompactFlash I can handle the loss of the SD card, but restricting the entire I/O to one port is just silly. Out of the box one can't even connect a brand new iPhone to their brand new MacBook without an adapter. How has the Mac eco-system fallen apart so quickly? Apple lost a pretty huge opportunity to knock it out of the park with this update. Don't even get me started on the 8gb of RAM being standard with absolutely no option of more than 16...
Elimentus They actually claimed the problem is, that 32GB use too
much power lol.. Guess we will see DDR4 and 32GB Ram next year with the refresh. Many analysts also say they will lower the price.
K
Yeah they gave up Aperture, replaced iPhoto by photos which is even more consumer base. Maybe they want that the iPhone become the only camera on earth ?
Elimentus what does MagSafe mean? I don't really know anything about computers.
oh okay thanks
Sorry but the speakers are not the best in class.
+Kingslayer really? I'm curious to know which 13" or even 15" laptop you think has better speakers?
Dave Lee I have heard HP Spectre x360 and Macbook Pro 13. To my ears the spectre sounds better. It's really loud and crystal clear.
Its quite subjective though, what you might find better other people don't.
trishan17 Yeah but sometimes you just know that one is better than the other. Like you know iPhone 7 is better than iPhone 6S.
Kingslayer Uh I havent used the 2016 MacBook but the 12 inch macbook speakers shits on the spectre x360...
Love your videos, Dave. Regardless of what you're reviewing, you always seem to give an in-depth and honest review. Thanks for putting all these vids together man. We appreciate it!
Solid and honest review. As a matter of fact I just bought a brand new last generation MacBook Pro 13" 512GB. I paid just 1000£ without the VAT, since I'm was tourist. Highly recommend it!
in India it costs ₹200,000 ... thats enough to buy a second hand car.
I'm pretty sure you can buy a second hand car in most places for the price of a good laptop.
man, that's expensive! i wonder why they charge so much for it over there.....
It's actually ₹206,000. That equates to $3088. Fuck you Apple.
You can buy a second hand child with that ?
Well you will have enough to buy a new Himalayan + take it out on an awesome trip with that sorta money.
Have you tried using the Razer Core using Windows on the Mac?
That may help as eGPU may not have been a consideration of Apple on MacOS
Also, Bootcamp tutorial please????
matttzerminator You really don't need a tutorial. For the most part, bootcamp walks you through every step. It's really easy to do. (I was quite impressed when I did it) only thing you might wanna Google is how to create the .iso file.
yup. i've been trying with Bootcamp. It's really close. I feel like the first solid connection of the two will happen through bootcamp and then someone will make it happen in OSX.. and then.. well.. then everyone profits.
Dave Lee I can't wait for it to work
so It currently doesn't work even with Bootcamp?
so does the Razer Core works with Macbook Pro (Thunderbolt 3) + BootCamp?
Great review. You're raising the standard to new levels.
The next MacBook Pro will be a dongle.
It is definitely an over priced machine for what you get. Especially the UK pricing.
The 13 inch cost 3140 usd with an i7 and 16gb ram in Sweden. For that price you can get a GTX titan x gaming rig.
Apple is milking the customers in the Europe hard.
Haydn Rowlands lol. It's not just the price, it's the fact that for the money you can get a way better windows 10 laptop that has all the ports you'll need, premium build and better performance overall. See the latest razor blade for example. I went to the apple store today to look at one and the keyboard is awful to type on.
Liam Ashton in UK the price is cheaper than in USA and Europe lol
Pedro Alexandre wrong. In the USA the price for the 13" with touch bar is $1799 so in the UK it should be about £1437 with a fair exchange rate. However it is £1750 Inc vat. Even after taxes in the USA it is still cheaper by roughly £200. They blame brexit but people know that's BS excuse to add more to the asking price.
See, now THIS is an honest review! Someone who gets it and isn't begging for sponsorships.
You are, by far, the best laptop reviewer on youtube. Can you branch out to phones?
100% want a dedicated video for gaming!
a glorified MacBook air
macbook air was legit tho
JamesJDMoe If it had a retina screen plus maybe a 15in variant, it would be the perfect mainstream laptop. What a wasted opportunity
Jason Mial-Anthony I think it was already the perfect mainstream laptop. for several years in a row it was the top laptop in its class
And it's ironic how this retina "MBA replacement" is almost like a downgrade with the lack of ports and pricetag... Apart from the smaller bezel and thinner form factor, I personally find the aesthetic design to be inferior to the Air too. A pity indeed.
and the magsafe is gone too, magsafe has safe my laptop countless time, look like I'm sticking with my ancient 2012 MBP then
"It's not an overpriced machine, it's apple's premium pricing".
Thank you Dave. With the release of this new laptop and what certain channels have been saying about it I'm glad that you're keeping it 100.
Just purchased it 2 days ago.... Absolutely loving it as I'm upgrading from a 2010 Macbook Pro.
RespectFromSyd hey, how did it turn out 1 year later? About to get one soon, did you have to replace the keyboard or screen?
Basically because Apple's courage with forcing people use USB C, we consumers are screwed
ahdoah Hsieh People sais that about dvds and floppy drives in the past in 5 years it will be normal
People buy a $1500 laptop to go to reddit?
Hurriname well holy a hit that is money here give me A sec I am going to clear my wallet
I spent $1000(got $300 off + sales tax) on my late 2012 macbook pro. I would say that the macbook is good for lasting many years. The most expensive windows laptop i bought was $800 and every year I felt a noticable reduction in power. So in terms of a laptop that you just want to browse online and save your photos, the macbook is way better
Netherlands you can buy HP spectre line up and they give quite a Matching performance to that of the MACBOOK pro and are kind a less expensive but any way because of the optization the MACBOOK winless :D
Hurriname yup, what else do you think spoiled kids who get this for Christmas will do with it?
Hurriname let me rephrase. People but a 2200$ laptop to go to reddit in style
Pricing is so different around the globe. For me $1,500 sounds okay, when it costs 1500-2000 EUR where I live. *That* is insane price.
I still have this computer, just ordered the M2 Air, excited to see the differences
What do you do with laptops after reviewing them,dave?
Also,do you speak any language other than English?
I also want to know
OmegaSyndicate I think he sends them back like other reviewers. i think MKBHD answered it like that in one of his videos.
I also want to know
He speaks Chinese
Apple doesn't send review loaners. You can freely return Apple products for xx days so he probably bought it.
Surprisingly, they left the headphone jack on.
Dave Lee is, in my opinion, the best tech reviewer on youtube right now
The USB C hub that you linked to has a lot of negative reviews on Amazon. Why do you like it so much?
most of the neg reviews are a result from the adapter not allowing data passthrough on the USB-C port (it only allows power). but in the case of this 13" MBP, that's np since the laptop has a 2nd USB-C port.
i am sorry i dint get what you said??? it doesnt allow data pass through?
So how do you use that thing?
that is with the (standard charging) usb c cable you get when buying the macbook. I think that's what Dave is saying,
The adapter has a USB-C port, SD card slot, and 2 USB-A ports. The USB-C port doesn't support data pass through, but the other ports on the adapter do.
Dave Lee how hot does it get? And is it sturdy?
Great review as usual, Dave! Would love to see a dedicated video to gaming for this laptop.
a good, unbiased review, looking forward to the review for the touch bar model ✌️
As always amazing review and awesome quality video
Keep up the good work Dave
Do you have a video on how you color calibrate your screens?
I guess I should have specified haha. I don't own a Mac but in the few reviews I've seen of him he talks about calibrating the screens on most laptops. I could do the research and figure it out but if he had another vid I would just watch that. ^_^
Lots of comments about gaming on the MacBook Pro... You want to spend $1500 on a laptop that will have trouble with high and graphics while you can build a good gaming PC for $800... I game on my Macbook Pro 2012 but its never smooth if i go above medium settings.
High end*
Sorry but a Desktop PC and a mobile Notebook are just different things that you can't compare and have entirely different usage scenarios.
there are 500-900$ laptops much more capable than this 1.5k piece of trash that needs 50000 adaptors to run something properly.
I agree that it's completely overprices, but a 500-900$ notebook probably won't compare with respect to display quality, build quality (why is it that no Windows notebook has the same premium build?) and probably OS quality (that depends on your point of view). Personally wouldn't buy the Macbook for that price either, but it's a shame that Windows notebook manufactures can't really keep up with the awesome quality and features the Macbook has.
What I wanted to say that it is completely nonsensical to say that you can build a good gaming PC for the same price, a stationary Desktop PC just has a total different purpose than the Macbook (or any other portable notebook for that matter), so why would you compare them?
I don't care the GPU of laptop.. If I need GPU I would bould a desktop.. As laptops are portable, I care how resilient they are.. It should not be broken by moving it.. I do not care dropping or water spilling.. I got used to care. But design wise, the laptop should not got broken by itself.. Which Apple is at top notch on that..
Hey Dave2D, can you review some thinkpads? I really want to hear your opinion on those ;)
Hey Dave, just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate you reviews. I really like the style of your videos.
Keep going!
Yes for the dedicated gaming video. For this model and for ALL FUTURE macbook pro models that you get the chance to review.
Also stoked for the external GPU video. Keep up the good work D
Dave, i wanna ask can razer core connect to XPS 15? does it run well?
yes it does, with the right updates and shit it can run pretty smootlhy
The 2015 macbook pro is AGES better than this
David Liu I wouldn't be surprised if Apple released the 2015 retina after this one and call it "innovation."
Tom X MacBook Pro 2015 SE
You people love to stick words into Apples mouths.
true. lmao "you'll have to pay -$250 for your ports"
David Liu but this is way faster and smaller
Dave is so amazing. Pay attention to all the details of his videos and be suprised on how neat and attractive the colors of various things on his videos like notebooks, shelves and even his shirt. What a brand he have built. D2D ftw :)
Finally, a reviewer that realizes that outside the world of video editing a lot of people barely use the sd card slot.
hmmmm🤔. almost at 300,000 subs. you got this dave.
I would like to see a macbook pro gaming video demo please, since im planning on buying it.
SerialKillerX don't for gaming get a Windows. Also for the same price point you could get a wayyyyy better laptop
Nazar Zaheer i know that there are better laptops for that price but the overall appeal of the macbook pro seems perfect. Im just trying to finally move away from my crappy ass shitty ass samsung pc.
SerialKillerX haha your silly, this is only for web browsing
xavier gonzales go to hell bitch
Still, gaming is not real on a mac book Pro Cus all of its internals are not up to date as it is used for the basic media consumption and work.
I'm always amazed by your video quality!!! Great review Dave!
I love your video, I feel like it's the only video that's not boring. Thank you so much for your hard work! 👍🏼☺️
dual core cpu and no gpu
"pro"
No gpu?
Gavin Scherer The 15 inch model has a dedicated graphics card
And you saw the inside of this thing if you added yet another processor that would chop at least one battery in halg
Gavin Scherer I still don't know why so many people criticise the MacBook Pro because of its lack of dGPU. You know actual professionals don't play games, right? As a developer and hobbyist photographer I'm way more upset because of the lack of ports and SD card slot.
Ale Zuvic A dedicated GPU would allow for gpu accelerated rendering times and 3D work such as game design. It would also free up ram, as a dGPU has it's own. That's also not the only thing I'm criticising, I also don't like that it (13 inch) only has a dual core CPU.
Gavin Scherer The main idea why it has a dual core CPU is because the 13-inch is there to replace Macbook Air. The 13-inch Macbook Pro should not be Pro, it should be Air.
Some thoughts of an Apple employee. "So a long time Apple fan needs a new phone and new computer. He goes into the Apple Store and spends $1100 on an iPhone and a fair $2800 for a new MacBook Pro. He gets home and needs to transfer his music library to his New iPhone 7 plus. Takes the USB cable from his brand new iPhone and goes to plug it into his New Mac hmmm wait that's not going to fit in this USB C port. I am sure they have included adapter right? Fuck no!!! Maybe they just forgot to put mine in here🤔🤔🤔. Well, shit I will just have to listen to my music on my Mac no problem. Takes headphones out of the iPhone box to find a set of headphones that he can't even plug into his brand new $3000 MacBook "Pro". What about all that talk about how the 3.5mm headphone jack is a way of the past. I guess they were just blowing💨 smoke up my ass when they were preaching that nonsense. Then says to himself well I will just have to break this bitch in with some video editing after all that's what puts bread on the table. He's got some video he recorded earlier so he's ready to go. Gets his $4000 camera and pulls out the SD card then goes to plug it into his "Pro" wait a second! WTF, where is the slot??!!!!! Damn they should really just take the pro out of the name. Well, $200 later and a bunch of shitty💩 looking adapters and he can finally do everything he was able to do a week ago. It's sure is a good thing money grows on trees around here🤑.” Change is I agree essential to life, but change too fast and you will forget what it is you set out to change.
td;lr
Dude I already know what you're videos are like.. so I'm just going to hit that 'like' button before I start watching
My subscriptions have to be earned and you sir have have earned one. hard.
Hey Dave, is it possible to get a video on the gaming performance of the 15 inch touch bar model with the 460 4GB? I was wondering how you think it would perform with games like Overwatch for example :)
Taylor if the base model 13 inch MacBook Pro can play overwatch on low settings 30-60fps I think the Radeon 460 can too.
Thumbs up egpu tests! Please do more !
apple didnt think about specs or ports that much, mainly focused on the trackpad, speakers, screen ,thinner bezels, improved butterfly keyboard, design and overall experience that comes to the eye
Omg this review is so perfect, subscribed !
Do you think it'd be worth it to just get the 13" 2015 model? It's going for about $1,000-$1,100 online right now and it still seems pretty good
It really depends on what you're going to use your laptop for, but I'm still rocking my old 2013 model with some hardware upgrades and have had zero reason to get a new one just yet.
Krista Dahl I just do simple cinema 4d and after effects work lol, nothing terrible
What hardware up grade? And yeah my 2013 is running great. Just finished a few rounds of overwatch on it.
Call me crazy, but I actually like the portless look. It's so much more elegant, and futuristc imo.
Phanteus If the future was inconvenient, nearly unusable, and frustrating.
FlameFlash How is it inconvenient? because 2% of MBP buyers (photographers) don't get the outdated SD card slot? Apple shouldn't make a laptop to please the ~2%.
Yes SD cards are outdated, and slow. Fastest SD cards run at merely 90 MB/s max. Samsung is getting 500 mb/s on their new yet to be released smaller UFS memory cards.
Phanteus until you actually use it
Lee Jack Me, like 99% of other normal people, do not remember using SD cards in the past 2 years or so.
Most DSLR cameras come with usb mode anyways, no need to take the SD out.
Yah i guess i can see that but IMO loosing a lot of functionality and practicality for a port-less look is not a good trade-off. Also its just no longer a pro with that dual core and no gpu
I start coming to your videos for gadgets advice, very nice job, Dave!!
Instead of hating on the laptop can we acknowledge the quality of Dave's videos?
Camera producers should start inovating. Give us usb type c or wireless, no more of this micro usb 2.0 or sd transfers :(
Light Yagami The go Pro five uses USb C
There will always been a need fo SD cards for cameras. Photographers sometimes have to shoot hundreds, even thousands of images in the field before being able to load to a computer.
SD have been around for about 10 years now and hasnt changed at all, same low speed and the need to all the time have to stick them in and out. We live in the wireless era where everything is in the cloud. Thanks why I love shooting photos with my smartphone, by the time I get home, all the photos are already uploaded to my account and synced across all my devices ;)
Gecko adapter.
Light Yagami
It's a MacBook PRO not a a MacBook, 'look I can load my amateur cell phone pics' computer. And for PROFESSIONAL photographers taking hundreds of high res RAW files, wireless is no where near fast enough. SD cards have been around for 10 years because they serve a purpose that a Thunderbolt port doesn't! If you think a very expensive "pro" computer is for camera phone photos, you are what all the Apple haters are talking about.
While it is overpriced I'm going to get it since I prefer osx for what i do (programming) because of the Unix shell
IMO, the big thing about this laptop is the TB3 port (& USB-C), at least when considering this vs last year's model. Having that port means I can easily put pretty much anything external, including a top of the line GPU and use it fully.
Also, I think I'm going to get this model (sans Touch Bar), as it's the least overpriced of the bunch, but still provides a good deal of the capabilities. I'd just max out the RAM, though 8GB is enough for most people. I'd want it for 3D work and VMs (virtual machines).
As for whether it is pro or not, what makes a machine pro? Generally, I'd say it is having a certain level of hardware, such that it's performance and reliability fits certain segments of professional work. This is easier to determine for a desktop. I guess I'd say that if previous Mac laptops have been pro, than this is as well. And, given the external expansion possibilities, this might be the most pro for Apple laptops yet.
That said, I'm annoyed, for sure, with Apple's direction with the Mac, especially on the software front. And, overall as a company, in shifting to profits/business101 > UX, instead of putting UX first, as I feel they used to do.
Great seeing and hearing a serious, non hyper active UA-cam reviewer for once. Subscribed!
I wouldn't mind a MacBook Pro gaming video
How is this a Laptop for work but doesnt have an USB port?
Love your reviews. I like that you take a non biased approach, which is rare nowadays. I've been a Mac user for years and I was thinking it might be time for an upgrade, but I don't feel like this would greatly outperform my 2012 retina MBP so Im holding off.
Holy crap. This review was so high quality. Subscribed.
Basing judgement on the Pro moniker is a bit silly, as the MacBook Pro has adapted over the years and is now moving into the consumer and educational market so Pro is just not relevant anymore, the market is too small for the line to survive and Apple has to explore other markets. I have been using the MacBook Pro for eight yeArs and I am not a Pro user, so loads of ports and the latest chipset is not an issue, my current one is five years old and does the job well. I agree the last years model is the way to go, but try and get them at any sort of discount, even second hand ones are selling close to retail, another reason why haters saying these are overpriced are ill informed, if second hand values hold up well you can infer it is not over priced. The Samsung Tab Pro S is overpriced, I can buy this on ebay, a month old version for half the price of retail, even at that price I wouldn't recommend it. So yes it is expensive but you do pay for what you get, I sold an eight year old previous generation MacBook Pro for £250 and I bought a new Elitebook 820 with i7, LTE, SSD for the same price. Forget sticker prices there are far more reasons to judge value.
You can get a Razer Blade. Better than this. Any day.
DatPSNgamer the razer blade has a gtx1060........
DatPSNgamer you're talking about the blade stealth. I'm taking about the stealth
its better because youre comparing a heavy duty laptop to a college/business only laptop ..
i have a macbook pro i use it when i go to school its easy to carry and its not heavy even the charger is so small. there are times that i cant even find my macbook pro inside my bag when its mixed with my books altogether.
i already have a gaming pc . and i rather build a gaming pc instead of buying a gaming laptop .. its heavy and thick
Um....it's named a PRO, which means it's for proffesionals such as photographers, video editors and such stuff, PRO is NOT for college students. PRO things should be a heavy duty machine, for all of that editing. Long ago MBP was an actually best laptop, with decent specs. But now seems like PRO ends up being a laptop for students and hipsters, and for actual pros there way better solutions (hello surface series).
The razer blade can't be used for college/business? lol that doesn't make sense...
Never Seen a video this detailed and of this quality. liked and subscibed
Love how practical and logical his videos are! Keep the great content coming!!!
I love Apple products as they just work...Window computers always freeze up, slow down, and by the end of the work day I'm so ready to come home and just boot up one of my macs.
you're an idiot clearly its your bias
Gutts Mercenary it's not my bias, you dumb ass...I use them at work...so I'm taking from the experience I've ever had with them...the only good Windows was DOS..as it was all command line...after they did a cheap knock off of GUI, it all went to hell.
Yea you use 4 different laptops and you know everything there is
Gutts Mercenary who says that I use 4 different laptops? why do you keep making things up?
Because I'm sure you can't talk for all PC
Almost every Macbook Pro 2016 review I've seen so far ends with "If you're looking for a Macbook Pro, get the 2015 model."
Although I'm sure this laptop will sell a lot (because Apple), Apple may have made a mistake.
i really enjoy your videos. Keep workin'. Thanks :D
probably one of the most fair review on the new macbook. thumbs up dave!
none of this laptop is PRO..
Consumer laptop? yep, sure, 100%
but PRO? please...
yes please. do the gaming thing 😊 thank you
Dave you're legit just discovered you today and you're awesome man. Rock on!
Thank you Dave for your reviews, i love them.
Have you tried to connect the Razer core to this MacBook running Windows?