Awesome tips bro! Great tip on trotting, i see so many that just send their setup down without knowing the water flow. 👍🏼 yah got my support and subbed👊🏼 Cheers man stay safe! Paulo
Average Ontario Anglers thanks man! Hopefully get some YT content again too as i just got my gopro again lol! Hopefully they dont shut us down like some of the spots in the states. Tight lines man👊🏼
@@averageontarioanglers I would second that, trotting is the most important and the most neglected part of float fishing however having the bait in front is a side effect of trotting, the main purpose is to match the bottom current and have your eggs/bead flow at the same rate as everything else in that water column.
I bought a TFO rod and an Okuma reel to start, could not cast to save my soul got mad put it back in the car took spinning rod out. Later that year went on a chartered Stealhead trip in Michigan told the guide only take Center Pins I need to learn. Taught me basic side cast less than 20 minutes later set out a drift bobber down set hook played the fish landed my pb Stealhead instantly hooked. In 2021 bought a Bloodrun Skeincane hd and a much better BER reel from Canada in Sept on Chinook trip landed 19 Kings on skein 16-24 lbs. that reel the best thing I bought ever fishing. Now have 3 Pin rods don't use anything else. Oh by the way a new subscriber here.
I have the skein cane too! Nice rods for the money! Ber float reels look amazing! I’ve never had the pleasure myself but hopefully they will chance in the future! Welcome to the channel! More coming in 2023
@@averageontarioanglers wish I could post a picture I also have one of BER spinning reels a BOOM size #1 have not spooled it up yet. If you get a chance try the BER mine is a 6" with drag amazing is an understatement.
phenomenal video brother man! watched my buds do some end of season floating steelhead fishing yesterday and you just made it make a whole lot more sense!
I haven't gone steelheading since I was a boy. I just inherited my old mans setup and came looking to learn how to use it (I always used a spinning combo growing up) and this taught me more then I expected👍 especially about the float, I never put any thought into the weight before.. anyways, great video, very helpful you got another sub👍👍👍👍
Great info. I always recommend running about 1/2 gram or so light on split shot based on the rated float weight to account for terminal tackle such as jigs, egg sacks, etc. It's easier to add weight vs removing if the float is running on the light side. If there's too much weight on the line generally the best option is to move up in float size.
Great information there Jesse. Lots of great tips and tricks. I’m also a big fan of river wood floats, best float out there IMO. That pool behind you looked pretty nice and water colour looked ideal for fishing. Tight lines brother. 👍 from the North Adrian
Man I found this video very educational and informative about techniques and gear used when fishing steel head. How could I not add this to my UA-cam channel Play list "Fishing Vids " Great job on the video
this is my first year pinning and steelhead fishing.. i am having a hell of a time finding fish.. in over 25-30 hours of fishing i have landed 1 fish.. hopefully this video will help me get into some fish
Hey man, I started trout fishing a couple years ago, still garbage but actually catching some stuff this year but I wish I would have seen this video when I started. Would have eliminated a lot of trial and error.
Things are so different in the northwest... interesting to see the difference in setup. I never really go lighter than 8lb leader. Sometimes as high as 20lb. We also bobber dog a lot which is dragging your beads out bait along the bottom with a special float.
In the Great Lakes we rarely go heavier than 8 lb leader. It's mostly due to pressure...the Great Lakes tribs become a circus at times and stealthy presentations reign supreme. Bobber dogging hasn't caught on but certain lures such as small plugs (like flat fish) and smaller spinners work well in the Great Lakes tribs also.
For sure. Great Lakes fishing is totally different from west coast fishing, and it’s definitely because the majority of the fishing over here is done in smaller rivers and creeks with lake run fish, nothing from the ocean. The gear and techniques evolved to match the size of the fisheries. I watch west coast videos and am amazed at the cool techniques and baits they use. Different worlds completely
I have used smaller 3.5” thick paddle tail bubble gum worms with success in stained water 🔥 I’m sure on bigger water like the Niagara you’d get fish on those
A Trout can bite a spawn bag & spit it out before a float can dip under, if you allow the bait to drift ahead of the float ! just sayin'....it is better to drag your bait behind the float! I learned this the hard way...lol.
Love it man, I want to get into steelhead fishing so badly. I love how dynamic rivers are and reading them, and steelhead are just the coolest fish. Great video, I always called trotting my float 'stalling' my float. I hope to get a centerpin soon! Any recommendations for a quality one? I'm looking for something around 300 but willing to spend more if the quality is worth the extra $. Enjoyed the vid a lot and definitely learned something. Fellow ontarian here 👍🏻
Do you have a video on casting diff situation such as slow water, fast water, pools, short cast & long? THANKS Great tips I was fishing wrong till a kind gentleman showed me so I pass knowledge along too... Some aren't receptive though lol
Just started this whole trout fishing with floats and been skunked 3 times. Never occured to me about trotting the lure because of where the shots are. Will see if I can fix that today.
There is a big advantage since with a centerpin you can trot you float which is slightly slowing it on the faster top layer of water. This helps swing the bait forward so it is presented before your float and weights pass by the fish. Otherwise your bait is often dragged behind your float and not at the needed depth. Spinning gear works too especially in slower water but in moving water centerpin reels have the advantage
It's alot more fun instead of setting up a spinning outfit and dragging the fish back... Using a centerpin just makes the fight a lot more enjoyable...
Really liked your video. It was very helpful. I'm just starting to center pin fish so the tips were great. I'm having some troubles in the casting department. You make it look so easy and effortless. Do you have any pointers to help out there. Thanks for your help.
Great video! To trot the rig you would need to be standing upstream from the fish, eh? How to avoid spooking the fish if the can see you right up front?
Wear neutral colours and move slowly to avoid spooking them in clear water. Often times fishing after a rain has the water stained so this isn’t an issue
Generally you spread them out to let the bait get down to the ideal depth. If you google “raven float fishing shot patterns” there’s some great info on where to place your shots
For sure. It matters more in strong current then in slow water and really depends on the area your fishing. Experiment and see what works best for you to get your bait down to the strike zone. 👌
@@caleblummer7720 it’s literally called “tackle organizer” I’ll post the link Fishing Lure Box, Fishing Tackle Boxes Fishing Lure Case Storage Container Organizer www.amazon.ca/dp/B07CJNBWCQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_ZWNJB9KSC04MP2KYP4NX
Posting the link to the one that looks similar incase other people want to look for it.. www.amazon.com/dp/B01NACI25M/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_eWHOEbPJ9XFYS?th=1&psc=1
The green line is suffix advanced. I usually use the 1.5x rule for most situations. If the water is 4 foot deep I’ll put my float 1.5x above it so around 6 feet. The current catches the line so you need more then the depth so get your bait to the bottom. Adjust accordingly to match the depth, current speed and so forth
A lot of the Ontario tributaries have year round open seasons in the lower sections. Check your local regulations to see where you can fish ore season in your local area
Centerpin reels are designed to spin freely on the bearings. A centerpin reel can spin for minutes when turned. This smooth effortless spin helps your float pull line from the reel as it drifts with the current. Fly reels may look similar but are no where close as free spinning.
I love using 6mm beads in low and clear water. It’s the most natural and realistic size compared to an actual trout egg. I would go with peach, or translucent oranges and light reds. White can also be killer later in the season
Great video! To trot the rig you would need to be standing upstream from the fish, eh? How to avoid spooking the fish if the can see you right up front?
a center pin reel allows you to drift your bait downstream very naturally, using the current. you can easily float your baits downstream 60, 80 feet or more. the fish holding downstream have no idea your even on the river. this becomes increasingly difficult with too many anglers fishing the same chute though. this is by far, the most effective and productive method for fishing all Ontario rivers.
Awesome tips bro! Great tip on trotting, i see so many that just send their setup down without knowing the water flow. 👍🏼 yah got my support and subbed👊🏼
Cheers man stay safe!
Paulo
Thanks Paulo! Love your instagram account! Top notch content!
Average Ontario Anglers thanks man! Hopefully get some YT content again too as i just got my gopro again lol! Hopefully they dont shut us down like some of the spots in the states. Tight lines man👊🏼
@@averageontarioanglers I would second that, trotting is the most important and the most neglected part of float fishing however having the bait in front is a side effect of trotting, the main purpose is to match the bottom current and have your eggs/bead flow at the same rate as everything else in that water column.
Def the most useful video I've seen
Thanks! More to come!
I bought a TFO rod and an Okuma reel to start, could not cast to save my soul got mad put it back in the car took spinning rod out. Later that year went on a chartered Stealhead trip in Michigan told the guide only take Center Pins I need to learn. Taught me basic side cast less than 20 minutes later set out a drift bobber down set hook played the fish landed my pb Stealhead instantly hooked. In 2021 bought a Bloodrun Skeincane hd and a much better BER reel from Canada in Sept on Chinook trip landed 19 Kings on skein 16-24 lbs. that reel the best thing I bought ever fishing. Now have 3 Pin rods don't use anything else. Oh by the way a new subscriber here.
I have the skein cane too! Nice rods for the money! Ber float reels look amazing! I’ve never had the pleasure myself but hopefully they will chance in the future! Welcome to the channel! More coming in 2023
@@averageontarioanglers wish I could post a picture I also have one of BER spinning reels a BOOM size #1 have not spooled it up yet. If you get a chance try the BER mine is a 6" with drag amazing is an understatement.
Definitely send me a pic on Instagram if you have an account 👍
@@averageontarioanglers I don't
phenomenal video brother man! watched my buds do some end of season floating steelhead fishing yesterday and you just made it make a whole lot more sense!
I haven't gone steelheading since I was a boy. I just inherited my old mans setup and came looking to learn how to use it (I always used a spinning combo growing up) and this taught me more then I expected👍
especially about the float, I never put any thought into the weight before..
anyways, great video, very helpful you got another sub👍👍👍👍
Glad it helped! Tight lines 🔥
Excellent series of pointers for new float anglers. Highly appreciate the tips and keep up the great content.
Thank you!
Honestly a great all around video. Thank you
Awesome thanks for the comment!
Great Video !! Just getting ready to go float fishing down in the Niagara River with my centre pin. Thanks for the tip on "trotting" your float. 👍
Tight lines!
Been waiting to get into centerpin steelhead fishing for awhile now, this video was so helpful!
Thanks for the kind words! Tight lines!!!
Well done, very nice explanation of gear and tactics, helps take a lot of the mystery out of float fishing for beginners.
Thanks for the comment! Tight lines!
Great info. I always recommend running about 1/2 gram or so light on split shot based on the rated float weight to account for terminal tackle such as jigs, egg sacks, etc. It's easier to add weight vs removing if the float is running on the light side. If there's too much weight on the line generally the best option is to move up in float size.
Good tips 👌
Killer video! Best cp intro video I've seen.
Thanks man! I hope to go into more detail soon on casting and rigging
Great information there Jesse. Lots of great tips and tricks. I’m also a big fan of river wood floats, best float out there IMO. That pool behind you looked pretty nice and water colour looked ideal for fishing. Tight lines brother. 👍 from the North
Adrian
Thanks Adrian, yeah the water was perfect today! Stay safe man!
Man I found this video very educational and informative about techniques and gear used when fishing steel head. How could I not add this to my UA-cam channel Play list "Fishing Vids " Great job on the video
this is my first year pinning and steelhead fishing.. i am having a hell of a time finding fish.. in over 25-30 hours of fishing i have landed 1 fish.. hopefully this video will help me get into some fish
Keep at it, these fish aren’t easy to catch 👌
New subscriber here! liking the footage! Keep them coming!
Thanks for watching!
This is awesome instruction. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great info!! thanx for the help.....some of us rookies need all the help we can get.
Thanks for watching! Tight lines!
Thx Jesse especially the trotting explanation and float shapes
Super Dave from Minesing
Tight lines!
thanks so much man i just wanted to get into centerpin fishing and thanks to you i know what to do now !
Thanks for watching!
I’m new to steelhead fishing but not new to float fishing.
Thanks for the tips!
Glad you liked it !
Great video clearly explained thanks
Thanks for watching! Appreciated!
Very nice tips! Thanks and tight lines.
besttips on pinreel floatfishn ive seen
thankyou AOA🐳
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment 🤘
Quality tips video 👌 so thorough and flows so well. Great work!
Thanks Adam!
Hey man, I started trout fishing a couple years ago, still garbage but actually catching some stuff this year but I wish I would have seen this video when I started. Would have eliminated a lot of trial and error.
Very useful info! I've been kind of intimidated with the thought of trying a centre pin. I may have to start this season...
Do it! So fun!
Some nice, very valuable tips👍
Thanks for watching
Thanks! This was an amazing video, very informative! subbed and liked before and rewatched this now that i got my first centerpin
Awesome! Thanks for your support! Tight lines!
@@averageontarioanglers I followed on Instagram too
Wooo! Awesome! Stay tuned for our 4000 follower giveaway
@@averageontarioanglers what mainline do I put on my centerpin?
We recommend 10-14lb floating mono
Things are so different in the northwest... interesting to see the difference in setup. I never really go lighter than 8lb leader. Sometimes as high as 20lb. We also bobber dog a lot which is dragging your beads out bait along the bottom with a special float.
In the Great Lakes we rarely go heavier than 8 lb leader. It's mostly due to pressure...the Great Lakes tribs become a circus at times and stealthy presentations reign supreme. Bobber dogging hasn't caught on but certain lures such as small plugs (like flat fish) and smaller spinners work well in the Great Lakes tribs also.
It's interesting watching this as a pacific northwest steelheader, because our tactics are completely different.
For sure. Great Lakes fishing is totally different from west coast fishing, and it’s definitely because the majority of the fishing over here is done in smaller rivers and creeks with lake run fish, nothing from the ocean. The gear and techniques evolved to match the size of the fisheries. I watch west coast videos and am amazed at the cool techniques and baits they use. Different worlds completely
@@averageontarioanglers I wonder how well my 5 inch bubble gum pink steelhead worms would work in the Great Lake rivers.
I have used smaller 3.5” thick paddle tail bubble gum worms with success in stained water 🔥 I’m sure on bigger water like the Niagara you’d get fish on those
Love your video
Thanks for watching!!
Great video, super informative. I’m gonna use all these tips for sure!
Tight lines!!!
Thank you for taking the time for this
Glad you enjoyed it! More videos like this to come 👍
Appreciate the video brother
Thanks for watching!!
Great video and very informative 👍🏻
Thanks! Tight lines!!
Thank you boss
Very informative, .., big thumbs up!
Thanks so much!!! 👍👍
Amazing
Ontario fishing yeah👍
Thanks very much!
Tight lines 🔥
Thank you for the tips
Thanks for watching!
Very nice vid. Thanks!!
Tight lines!
A Trout can bite a spawn bag & spit it out before a float can dip under, if you allow the bait to drift ahead of the float ! just sayin'....it is better to drag your bait behind the float!
I learned this the hard way...lol.
awesome, informative vid! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great Tip!
Good video! Very informative.
Thank you sir!
Awsome video really helpful
Thanks for watching!
Nice
Great video!
Thank you!
Love it man, I want to get into steelhead fishing so badly. I love how dynamic rivers are and reading them, and steelhead are just the coolest fish. Great video, I always called trotting my float 'stalling' my float. I hope to get a centerpin soon! Any recommendations for a quality one? I'm looking for something around 300 but willing to spend more if the quality is worth the extra $.
Enjoyed the vid a lot and definitely learned something. Fellow ontarian here 👍🏻
I’d check Kijiji for a used islander but a okuma raw or raven matrix is a great place to start. Thanks for watching! Tight lines 🤘
Thanks man!
Our pleasure!!!
That amazing
nice!
Thanks for the visit
Nice video!
Thanks! Stay tuned for more
you should have a video of what trottin glooks like..talking about not so clear...
Do you have a video on casting diff situation such as slow water, fast water, pools, short cast & long? THANKS
Great tips I was fishing wrong till a kind gentleman showed me so I pass knowledge along too... Some aren't receptive though lol
We currently don’t but will try to add one soon! Thanks for watching! Tight lines
Quality.
Can’t wait to get back out Thursday caught my first one on the pin yesterday and lost 3
That’s the fun of it! 😂 have fun!
@@averageontarioanglers oh I am hoping to land the giant I lost today after work or tomorrow
Just started this whole trout fishing with floats and been skunked 3 times. Never occured to me about trotting the lure because of where the shots are. Will see if I can fix that today.
Good luck!
I am gonna fish centerpin on carps
We do that every year. So much fun ✌️
Great video! Do you use a shot line when steelhead float fishing, and if yes, has your hookup/fish landed % more then if you do not use a shot line?
Is there a big advantage to using a center pin vs a spinning reel with an equal ~10ft L or M/L rod? Aiming to use a float setup.
There is a big advantage since with a centerpin you can trot you float which is slightly slowing it on the faster top layer of water. This helps swing the bait forward so it is presented before your float and weights pass by the fish. Otherwise your bait is often dragged behind your float and not at the needed depth. Spinning gear works too especially in slower water but in moving water centerpin reels have the advantage
It's alot more fun instead of setting up a spinning outfit and dragging the fish back... Using a centerpin just makes the fight a lot more enjoyable...
Really liked your video. It was very helpful. I'm just starting to center pin fish so the tips were great. I'm having some troubles in the casting department. You make it look so easy and effortless. Do you have any pointers to help out there. Thanks for your help.
Thanks for the support! Check out our casting a Centerpin video 👍
Great video! To trot the rig you would need to be standing upstream from the fish, eh? How to avoid spooking the fish if the can see you right up front?
Wear neutral colours and move slowly to avoid spooking them in clear water. Often times fishing after a rain has the water stained so this isn’t an issue
@@averageontarioanglers Thanks!
That $100 Kijiji fine the reel is brand new in Canada $400
Yeah I got lucky for sure
My centerpin fall off from slide rod how can fixed it
Hey man nice video thanks for the tips! What’s the brand of fold open tackle box you had for your beads? Interested in picking one up! Thanks!!
Thank for watching! Not sure of the brand it’s called a tackle organizer on amazon.
Hey how should I set up my split shots. Should I put them all together right under the bobber or spread them out?
Generally you spread them out to let the bait get down to the ideal depth. If you google “raven float fishing shot patterns” there’s some great info on where to place your shots
what are those things called over your reel seat feet?
Where can I get one of those bait holders for spawn sacks
It’s made by theroebro, check it out on instagram
Where did you get that bead box ?
Почему резинка на ручке? Тормоз сломался?
Для транспортировки , чтобы не крутилось колесо , как я понял
Awesome video and info! Was wondering what kind of box you use for beads? Love the design.
Look up “tackle organizer” on Amazon
@@averageontarioanglers Great! Thanks
Can you land an 8 pounder with 3 pound leader? And the okuma raw 2 is a beauty
It’s possible! Not ideal but when the waters clear sometimes it’s the only way to get bites
thanks for the tips. I'm wondering if you tried braided line as mainline in your centerpin.
I haven’t. I’ve seen a few do it but I don’t like the feel
@@averageontarioanglers thanks
not sure where you're from... But is there anywhere local near the GTA that carries the Bait Pal... I need this....
Check out on Instagram “The Roe Bro.”Locally made and cheaper then importing from the states
Hey! I just started fishing not too long ago, I was wondering if the placements of the shots matter when drifting in waters such as the credit?
For sure. It matters more in strong current then in slow water and really depends on the area your fishing. Experiment and see what works best for you to get your bait down to the strike zone. 👌
@@averageontarioanglers Thanks man! honestly this video has been very helpful! keep up the good work! :)
Glad to hear! Tight lines!! Be safe out there 👌
3:19 where I can get one beat box same like your
Amazon. Search “tackle organizer”
What bead box is that ? Great video!
Called a “tackle organizer” on Amazon
@@averageontarioanglers hahaha i meant like more specifically that one...looks like its well organized for your bead setup etc.
@@caleblummer7720 it’s literally called “tackle organizer” I’ll post the link Fishing Lure Box, Fishing Tackle Boxes Fishing Lure Case Storage Container Organizer www.amazon.ca/dp/B07CJNBWCQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_ZWNJB9KSC04MP2KYP4NX
What is your bead box and where did you get it?
Look up tackle organizer on amazon. It’s a great box, I love it
@@averageontarioanglers Thanks man and great video!!
Posting the link to the one that looks similar incase other people want to look for it..
www.amazon.com/dp/B01NACI25M/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_eWHOEbPJ9XFYS?th=1&psc=1
That’s the one! Thanks
Where. Did you get your set up from
Gagnon Sports in Oshawa, Ontario
what brand green line is that ? Can you tell me how to setup the float depths when you drift ?
The green line is suffix advanced. I usually use the 1.5x rule for most situations. If the water is 4 foot deep I’ll put my float 1.5x above it so around 6 feet. The current catches the line so you need more then the depth so get your bait to the bottom. Adjust accordingly to match the depth, current speed and so forth
@@averageontarioanglers thank u , did you go duffin creek this morning, I saw some one dress just like u .
Jim J that wasn’t me ha ha
where do you usually fish preseason?
A lot of the Ontario tributaries have year round open seasons in the lower sections. Check your local regulations to see where you can fish ore season in your local area
where about do you fish for steelhead in ontario
Most of the rivers that flow into the Great Lakes have steelhead in them
Why not use a fly reel?
Centerpin reels are designed to spin freely on the bearings. A centerpin reel can spin for minutes when turned. This smooth effortless spin helps your float pull line from the reel as it drifts with the current. Fly reels may look similar but are no where close as free spinning.
What colour of beads and size for clear and low water?
I love using 6mm beads in low and clear water. It’s the most natural and realistic size compared to an actual trout egg. I would go with peach, or translucent oranges and light reds. White can also be killer later in the season
Average Ontario Anglers ,
Thank you for a quick response! Beads are also effective for salmon like red spring and coho?
Many people use beads for salmon fishing 👍
HiAverage Ontario Anglers ,
Good morning!
what size of hook do you used for clear water?
Thank you!
Depends on the brand. I like a #10 or 12 raven wide gap
I think I k ow that river
I’m sure you do 😮
@@averageontarioanglers does that one dump into lake erie??
No
But….it’s raining dude?
It happens 👌
Uploaded on my birthday lol
You will MISS hundreds of strikes by "checking" your floats drift....
Makes sense
Jesus christ, just buy a fucking fly rod buddy!
Great video! To trot the rig you would need to be standing upstream from the fish, eh? How to avoid spooking the fish if the can see you right up front?
a center pin reel allows you to drift your bait downstream very naturally, using the current.
you can easily float your baits downstream 60, 80 feet or more.
the fish holding downstream have no idea your even on the river.
this becomes increasingly difficult with too many anglers fishing the same chute though.
this is by far, the most effective and productive method for fishing all Ontario rivers.