I can't imagine how betrayed you felt by the second experience compared to the magic of the first. *Hugs* When did you start objectively looking at the situation? As in actually listening to the doubts? Please feel free to refuse to answer questions if it's too personal or too deep into the situation.
*Hugs* You can do so much better, leave that bitch in the past cause shes not worth it. Someone tell's me they poly i'm just like "Ok bye". Cause 99% of the time poly people are complete drama and they seem to always use that they poly as a accuss to cheat.
@@shadowofchaos725 how betrayed? My man and or woman, imma have trust issues for the rest of my life I think. I average out like 4 hours of sleep a night and I will more than likely keep having weird nightmares that actually wake me up. As for the second bit I think when the poly question was brought up out of nowhere. After that i started realizing that things were going south and I started over analyzing things quite a lot. My over analyzing was for the most part spot on. And I dont thinknill refuse any question
yeah that's not polyamory. that's serial cheating. she damn well knew what she was doing wasn't ok. also by now she's probably on boyfriend #6 since he broke up with her.
@@faultypremise Yep. The poly couple I know is way, way, way different from this. Poly doesn’t work unless it’s built on mutual respect, an understanding of the rules, and following them.
I call people like her "tourists". They don't have relationships but human vacations. Always has to be new and she enjoys the catch over having the steady.
I am under the belief that what she needs is a constant stream of validation that the other guy was able to provide for her more than me. When he becomes incapable of doing that because his other poly relationship moved back into town she will be in a rough spot. Tourist seems very apt. Which is a shame I could really see a future with her months ago
@@alexl898 It sounds like a rough ride. I think you did more than what could have been expected of you. The lady just isn't in a spot where she can be in any kind of serious relationship at this point in her life.
If she comes back around will you take her back? That’s the real question. It seems you really truly fell in love with her. Usually that type of feeling doesn’t go away anytime soon.
@@princessprincess0039 I don't think she will ever speak to me again given that I've told everyone what she did. She used to have a group of mutual friends that would help her with raids. But I told them too and she left their discord. She lost more than just me she lost a network.
people will definitely hide behind polyamory when it suits them. When your girl/guy asks to 'open the relationship' get out. They try to justify cheating that way and theres nothing there for you anymore.
Yeah thats what it feels like at the moment. I stand by that poly can work for people but it can be built on what one party feels is a dying relationship
I am not Poly. But what this sounds like to me, is she's just a user. What I Imagine Poly is, literally loving multiple people, that means caring not to hurt them/hide things from them. This was not the same thing, if you're cheating and using a weak ass excuse of "oh I'm poly", is really just trying to shift blame. I definitely agree with you OP.
@@duskyjackal1699 She felt guilty in the beginning the OP said. So that says she wasn't poly, just a "Get Out of Jail" Free card. She knew she was doing dirt and crossed lines she can never come back from.
….. that was a red flag….. that was a red flag….. that was a red flag….. that was a red fl………. This has more flags on it than the hiking trail up Mt Everest
What a wild story, especially the audacity of that girl to use OP’s living space as her personal hookup spot, but the poly thing seems to be a common cop-out for this behavior. Not many people understand what a TRUE and legitimate polyamorous relationship entails so it gets abused by others. The relationship overlap is triggering to me cuz it reminds me of my own 5-part FFXIV drama series lol
It's not Love Sense, it's Lovense. It's an adult toy that can be used long distance over two apps called Lovense Connect and Lovense Remote. Don't ask me how I know.
Yeah I've been getting overwhelming support like even past the fuckery of looking through her phone and recording and even getting into her discord and inviting like 15 people to her 2 person Discord with the other guy. I think everyone at some point who's been cheated on like Linda wishes they'd been able to handle the gotcha moment as well as I did. Cause I can't think of any other explanation
@@alexl898 Sorry to hear what you went through. Stating that your friends don't wanna hear about hit me and it is too real. Some people in the game have emotionally scarred me as well and it's so hard to talk about that stuff like what are you gonna say, people in a video game hurt me? I sometimes wish that there's like a support group for stuff like that but yeah well, gotta carry on
@@oswaldofcarim8102 its more of a I've talked about it ad nauseum... I don't blame em. I try to be entertaining when I talk about it but given then content and the fact that I'm not just some dude on the internet. Like they met her they went places with us. At a certain point people want to forget
@@alexl898 Nah my guy. I had to do the same with somebody I liquidated assets to go and visit in another state. Ended up the same way as you my dude. shit sucks and you're left with gnawing feelings even if the person you're with is stable and kind hearted. But you find a way to push foward, y'know?
@Wesley Lecruidant yeah I know for me it's mostly consisted of excercise of some sort. I'm doing much better now. After I realized some thing. She doesn't love herself. That's not me being spiteful. No throughout my relationship to her it was very apparent she didn't. She had gained a lot of weight and didn't look like she did in the pictures she sent me and she like really didn't like the way she looked cause of it. I didn't mind. To me, at that time, she was beautiful. But what I learned is this. "You can't expect someone who doesn't love themselves to love you" if they don't have the capacity to do it for themselves they cannot do it for you. We're all going to make it brother. I'm glad people still see this occasionally. Maybe one day she will too lol
I found a lovely woman right around the time this video dropped. She's very sweet, kind, and understanding of the emotional baggage I'm currently carrying.
@alexl898 I'm late to the party on this story but good for you, dude. I'm sorry you were put through that by the manipulative backstabber but I'm glad to hear you replaced that trashy scum for someone worthy of your singular focus, since you're absolutely deserving of another's in turn. Try not to let yesterday's news bog you down, much as that's easier said than done. You came out cleaner on the other side, and much as I'm sure it agonized to go through, it's better that you found out before those dreams of the future actualized into a ring and a messy divorce. Bullet massively dodged. She saved you time and money by showing her true colors like that, and good on you for definitively catching her in the act. If she ever tried to narcissistically claim that you were the one actually in the wrong for recording her without her knowledge or consent then know that the liar simply didn't like being caught and called out, but why should you spare her feelings when she knowingly and intentionally trampled all over your good intentions and trust?
Kent will be the next victim. Poor Kent. If someone is not treating their current bf/gf well, don't expect them to treat you well either if you started dating.
Let's call him bunny and no he won't be, he's in a poly situation much like mine but he didn't have the self-respect to cut it off. His wandering girlfriend recently came back into the picture. And I imagine once Amanda goes home she will be getting the me treatment while the other girl gets more attention cause she's there.
People... If you are sexually open or poly... TELL. YOUR. POTENTIAL. PARTNER. I had an extensive conversation about being open in my relationship. We're not poly. Just sexually open. We have guidelines. Do's and don'ts. Neither of us have yet to use this prevliege, but its still there. These things take active discussion, time, boundaries and understanding. You can still cheat while being poly and open and those who abuse these things or like the concept of poly but abuse boundaries are people who are just plain old serial cheaters trying to hide behind a valid sexual label. Stand firm on your boundaries, ladies and gents.
As someone that's been in a polyeros relationship (and married) for 14+ years, that lady's terrible and hid behind poly to cover up her cheating. People like her disgust me and give poly a really bad name. I think the worst thing is how common people use this tactic to give themselves an excuse to cheat.
It's really just an easy cop out for people. I wish they wouldn't do it cause it gives real poly the negative social stigma. It's funny cause before all of this the idea of poly was a hard no and it didn't make sense. It's still a hard no for me. But all the reading and talking with poly people I did. Makes it make sense and makes me more accepting of the lifestyle. It's not for me. But if it's for you and you can make it work. By all means brothers and sisters live your truth.
Damnn.... never get involved with anyone who's having trouble with their bf/gf cuz that'll be you someday. That was the OPs first red flag. I'm sure he's learned and moved on from this.
If someone does something once, they will most likely do it again. If she was flirting with him while having a BF, nothing is gonna stop her from doing the same thing if u are the BF. The Flag was there from the beginning, he just decided to ignore it. Lets All learn from this.
@@alexl898 its ok man, unfortunately a lot of us wont learn until it happens but these are the type of experience that even though they suck, we should be grateful for, they make us better and stronger and this will make you find a better relationship later on, stay strong and believe
I feel so bad for that guy... I dated someone who ended up coming out as poly and we were living together. Of course, the relationship ended but due to my own circumstances I had to still live with him and had to hear so many uncomfortable things. This same person was also the person who bought me XIV, HW+SB expansions cause he wanted to play with me (he ended up barely doing so)... thankfully I ended up making much better memories with someone so I wouldnt associate a favorite game with painful memories
That's a struggle at the moment . Like I took a month long break cause of this and actually had no intention of returning to this cursed star. But then I though of my homies I dragged into this game with me and came back. Tho I can't play like I was doing before. To much association with bitter memories. Her irl friends still talk to. Me and say they miss me as well. She hasn't said a word to them in over a month. Just straight up not talking to them. I couldn't go that long not talking to my friends.
@@alexl898 Its good that you still have those friendships, cause sometimes they are all we have to get through day to day bs. Hell, more friends for you and less for her, as it should be.
@@thecinders yes but i do want her to be better and that requires her friends to guide her some. I've never left a relationship wishing the other party ill. Even now. But fuck that other guy he a lolicon
For her ticket to Georgia he payed for her ticket here and back I payed. She offered to reimburse me but I. Small increments but I felt like it woulda been like this dude ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxoIKhIfDLVtUGmRNPZQy7m6XqAjr1v-6l
Dawg...as someone who was conned into a poly relationship, used to create a life, keep that life from me, and suffering TO THIS DAY of PTSD from that relationship, i feel for this dude so hard.
Lovesense is an adult toy that's controlled by a phone on one end by one of the partners and that's all I can say and hope by comment doesn't get deleted
Nope charged it to the game. I contemplated canceling the ticket but my father told me to "let her go home. Her life's probably rough enough as it is I raised you better than that shit" and he's right. She did offer to re imburse me for the ticket but then it'd be like ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxoIKhIfDLVtUGmRNPZQy7m6XqAjr1v-6l
@@AdamOwenBrowning yah it took me a while to find it but it fit so well. I even told her that when she offered to pay. Sent her the clip but I dont think she watched it :(
Hi! Poly person in a monogamous relationship here! I know we only have OP's perspective here, but polyarmory isn't a valid excuse for that kind of behavior, regardless. If you are mutually interested in any person, romantically OR physically, sexuality is one of the first things you discuss. Honesty is crucial in ANY relationship, ESPECIALLY early on. If you are Poly and want to stay poly, let your potential partners know. Sometimes they'll be open to it or be completely fine with it, which is AWESOME! However, not everyone is, which is also absolutely ok. What isn't ok is leading somebody on like OP's ex did or leaving room for doubt about being something you're not. If you are a poly person interested in someone who has a hard boundary with monogamy and isn't open to exploration, you are the one that will have to decide if the other person is worth committing monogamously too. Can you see a future with them, and see one exclusively with them? Do they make you feel safe and secure when you're with them? Do you feel you can be open and honest with them about anything? Do you feel satisfied with the relationship? If not, is there common ground you can find with each other to make sure those needs are met, without breaking boundaries or being disrespectful towards each other? Are you at a point in your life where you want to settle down? The choice is ultimately yours, but these are things to keep in mind. If either of you do try out polyamory/monogamy and you find you aren't satisfied later on, cheating or manipulation is NEVER a solution. Communicate. If you can't reach an understanding, then it's always better for both sides emotionally and mentally to simply walk away with mutual closure. Not everything is going to work out, but would you rather walk away knowing it was mutual, or feeling like you were betrayed and heartbroken by someone you cared for? Think about it. At the end of the day, whether you're Poly or Mono, your romantic boundaries are valid. It's fine if YOU YOURSELF decide you want to test those waters with the right person, but always do it on your own terms. Never let yourself feel manipulated or pressured into it. Love comes in many forms for different types of people, but no matter what form it takes, I hope everyone can find it with people who show you the same love and respect you show them.
Wow. that's not what Poly is at all... going behind someone's back is just cheating. In Poly, everyone knows and consents even if not everyone participates.
Hey brother sorry you had to go through this I went through something similar and what I learned was not to depend on anybody else to make you happy or change your mentality on life. Do not undervalue yourself. About making that move in the end ….nothing shamefull about break up sex ….if it’s only once ! XD
Yeah the whole thing really taught me that I have self respect now. 2 years ago I woulda let it slide to stay together or tried to make her toxic variant of poly work. Not this year tho.
Wait. I'm confused. I don't use Discord, how do you watch anime or movies together? Do you just sit in the "Discord room" together and both watch it on your own ends, or is it shared in Discord somehow?
No he's going to be scarred for life like me. I haven't dated in 3 years. 4 now? Since my last ex. I don't trust anyone anymore and would rather be alone than hurt again
@@Tailionis Not everyone reacts the same way and I don't think his experience was as traumatic, instead, he wisefully could tell where the redflags were and what he could've done better to avoid this ordeal, that is why, I think with this wisdom he makes better choices, and can find the right lady for himself, yet for that time to come one must not seek and especially not online, but to be patient and let it happen from the heart in reality
I dont think there will be any updates. I've been blocked on every possible avenue of communication. Unless she sees the video this story is over. Or if I can get his staticto kick him for being a lolicon
The guy she was cheating on him with sounds liked he lived with someone (parents? Spouse?) and he was coming over to op's place when he was at work! I have had friends who realized they were poly or had their partner come out as poly and the other was not, I told them if they can't commit just call it off.
people just don't know the evil that they do... the Op does well to put it behind him. Logic tends to turn off for people that fall in love and you allow the stuffs that you think you deserve. It's just such a shame that people can't just be happy she claimed that she was happy she wanted to go back to him but then decided that he was boring and that it was worth destroying the friendship to bring another guy into his house how evil can you be? there truely is no happy ending for these types of people and they go down dragging others with them. J:
Big "everyone is an asshole" vibes here. Even if you suspect your partner is cheating, do not record them or snoop their stuff. I have had two partners who did similar shit because of their own paranoia and insecurity, based on nothing but "you have male friends" and I'm not the only person who has dealt with controlling partners who do this. If you struggle with insecurity and paranoid to a degree that violating someone's privacy feels justified to you, please go to therapy.
Yeah maybe stay away from erotic RPers? OP said he didn't mind cause it was not her but just her character ingame...yea but one thing leads to another. Huge red flag imo. It sucks how these things keep happening online tho.
I know plenty of people that can keep rp and reality separate. One of my best friends is such a dude. It's doable but requires clear boundaries that she doesn't apparently care to set.
@@alexl898 sorry to ask, but from what I understood from the story the girl was doing erotic RP ingame while dating you? I don't know but I feel that if my partner was doing that I would feel like they were cheating. We are all different tho but I see that as already going to far. Yes it is just pretend but there is something more there, specially when its of that nature. But hey maybe I'm just too old fashioned.
@@pelisinho yes you read that right. She was and yest that is too far for most people. But I feel that if your weaving a story together with someone sometimes sex happens. And ifnyoubdont fade to black thats OK. I feel erp and setting has a different feel to it.
Oh yah this ones karma. I had it coming a bit. Like if she strung me along for a week or 2 like she did the other guy for me cool beans. But she kept it up for damn near 2 and a half months. That's just cruel.
I have never had any kinds of relationship with strangers in a video game. You just don't do that. Regarding what happened.. what is it with U.S guys in these kind of situations? all of them are super similar.
@@alexl898 i was just giving my opinion why i personally dont do ldr, but yeah it woulda been an issue if she moved in with you. like i said tho i dont do ldr because i believe lies and cheats are more prevalent online from my past experiences. thats strictly why i only date locally, my local experiences have been a lot better than my previous ldr experiences.
Wow I never would of thought content creators would resort to airing drama of this game. Pretty smart. Yeah the poly thing is a no go for my relationships I usually just stop talking to them.
Hi, i'm Leaf. That's my name on Final Fantasy, I never seen or heard stories like this and actually scares me. I thought Final Fantasy was free of this kind of drama but I was so wrong. I been cheated on before with a similar situation so I understand the pain and disgusting feeling in your chest. I do have a story as well but nothing as bad as this. is there a place to submit it?
I hope you go through the same thing so you can experience the hurt. Before you realise these things, it's usually too late. Love makes people stupid. Maybe when you go through it, you'll be less judgey of others.
This is why i Love this series! These things shouldn’t happen but they do and it hurts! OP if you’re watching! Let me be you’re #1! I’ll buy you Taco Bell everyday! I’ll treat you right! We can do all that fun stuff! And you can have 💯 acess to me phone! ❤️ you’re a keeper❤️
I am the op I'm In a way better place at the moment. This whole thing helped meose about 30 going on 40 pounds so physically I'm in the best state ive ever been emotionally is well it could be better
Am I the only one who finds the whole recording OP did and the whole deleting of fotos kinda yucky as well. And no, I am not having the whole 'but look how she treated him!' spiel. Two wrongs don't make a right.
It was the only way to get her to confess sadly. She kept denying while using him to see the other guy. Besides, he has the right to record in his private residence for any security reasons. Her on the other hand invited someone she's not supposed to without the OP's permission. It's trespassing and his recording can be used as evidence if he had lost anything in his house
Hell yes.... I'm the guy by the way fielding questions if yall got any
***hugs*** Sounds like you need one!
It's a lot better now my dude
I can't imagine how betrayed you felt by the second experience compared to the magic of the first.
*Hugs*
When did you start objectively looking at the situation? As in actually listening to the doubts?
Please feel free to refuse to answer questions if it's too personal or too deep into the situation.
*Hugs* You can do so much better, leave that bitch in the past cause shes not worth it. Someone tell's me they poly i'm just like "Ok bye". Cause 99% of the time poly people are complete drama and they seem to always use that they poly as a accuss to cheat.
@@shadowofchaos725 how betrayed? My man and or woman, imma have trust issues for the rest of my life I think. I average out like 4 hours of sleep a night and I will more than likely keep having weird nightmares that actually wake me up. As for the second bit I think when the poly question was brought up out of nowhere. After that i started realizing that things were going south and I started over analyzing things quite a lot. My over analyzing was for the most part spot on. And I dont thinknill refuse any question
yeah that's not polyamory. that's serial cheating. she damn well knew what she was doing wasn't ok.
also by now she's probably on boyfriend #6 since he broke up with her.
They still together
@@alexl898 Oh hello, you're the drama submitter I take it? I'm sorry you went through that.
and give it a few months. She'll jump to another.
@@faultypremise Yep. The poly couple I know is way, way, way different from this. Poly doesn’t work unless it’s built on mutual respect, an understanding of the rules, and following them.
I've heard it said that poly people have a scheduling kink. And she couldn't schedule Worth a fuck
I call people like her "tourists". They don't have relationships but human vacations. Always has to be new and she enjoys the catch over having the steady.
I am under the belief that what she needs is a constant stream of validation that the other guy was able to provide for her more than me. When he becomes incapable of doing that because his other poly relationship moved back into town she will be in a rough spot.
Tourist seems very apt. Which is a shame I could really see a future with her months ago
@@alexl898 It sounds like a rough ride. I think you did more than what could have been expected of you. The lady just isn't in a spot where she can be in any kind of serious relationship at this point in her life.
If she comes back around will you take her back? That’s the real question. It seems you really truly fell in love with her. Usually that type of feeling doesn’t go away anytime soon.
@@princessprincess0039 I don't think she will ever speak to me again given that I've told everyone what she did. She used to have a group of mutual friends that would help her with raids. But I told them too and she left their discord. She lost more than just me she lost a network.
Ooh I like that way of saing it 🤔
people will definitely hide behind polyamory when it suits them. When your girl/guy asks to 'open the relationship' get out. They try to justify cheating that way and theres nothing there for you anymore.
Yeah thats what it feels like at the moment. I stand by that poly can work for people but it can be built on what one party feels is a dying relationship
I am not Poly. But what this sounds like to me, is she's just a user. What I Imagine Poly is, literally loving multiple people, that means caring not to hurt them/hide things from them.
This was not the same thing, if you're cheating and using a weak ass excuse of "oh I'm poly", is really just trying to shift blame.
I definitely agree with you OP.
@@duskyjackal1699 She felt guilty in the beginning the OP said. So that says she wasn't poly, just a "Get Out of Jail" Free card. She knew she was doing dirt and crossed lines she can never come back from.
….. that was a red flag….. that was a red flag….. that was a red flag….. that was a red fl……….
This has more flags on it than the hiking trail up Mt Everest
In hindsight there was a ton. But they just like like regular flags with rose tinted glasses my dude
@@alexl898 it’s not always easy to see the woods whilst standing amongst the trees 🍺
Higher body count than an Everest trail too
Life is too short to spend time on fakes.
What a wild story, especially the audacity of that girl to use OP’s living space as her personal hookup spot, but the poly thing seems to be a common cop-out for this behavior. Not many people understand what a TRUE and legitimate polyamorous relationship entails so it gets abused by others.
The relationship overlap is triggering to me cuz it reminds me of my own 5-part FFXIV drama series lol
Write it in dude
It's not Love Sense, it's Lovense. It's an adult toy that can be used long distance over two apps called Lovense Connect and Lovense Remote. Don't ask me how I know.
lol at the chat saying title should be "The lady in red...flags"
the comments feed sum up my feelings super well, one of the best is:
"I can't say what I think of her without breaking ToS" XD
That was the real issue you guys were watching mrs marvel
The relationship ended while we were like on ep3 of she hulk. Thankfully I no longer need to watch she hulk
LOL bbfan that was mad funny. Its true tho...Watching Mrs Marvel and She Hulk is enough to obliterate all romance and make divorce rate skyrocket.
I dont want to blame it all on Marvel but it certainly didn't help
If someone cheats on their boyfriend for you what makes you think they won’t do that to you once you’re in that position??
being a dumbass brother 😂
This story hit really close to home, sorry the guy who went through this had to go through something like this too.
Yeah I've been getting overwhelming support like even past the fuckery of looking through her phone and recording and even getting into her discord and inviting like 15 people to her 2 person Discord with the other guy. I think everyone at some point who's been cheated on like Linda wishes they'd been able to handle the gotcha moment as well as I did. Cause I can't think of any other explanation
@@alexl898 Sorry to hear what you went through. Stating that your friends don't wanna hear about hit me and it is too real. Some people in the game have emotionally scarred me as well and it's so hard to talk about that stuff like what are you gonna say, people in a video game hurt me? I sometimes wish that there's like a support group for stuff like that but yeah well, gotta carry on
@@oswaldofcarim8102 its more of a I've talked about it ad nauseum... I don't blame em. I try to be entertaining when I talk about it but given then content and the fact that I'm not just some dude on the internet. Like they met her they went places with us. At a certain point people want to forget
@@alexl898 Nah my guy. I had to do the same with somebody I liquidated assets to go and visit in another state. Ended up the same way as you my dude. shit sucks and you're left with gnawing feelings even if the person you're with is stable and kind hearted. But you find a way to push foward, y'know?
@Wesley Lecruidant yeah I know for me it's mostly consisted of excercise of some sort. I'm doing much better now. After I realized some thing. She doesn't love herself. That's not me being spiteful. No throughout my relationship to her it was very apparent she didn't. She had gained a lot of weight and didn't look like she did in the pictures she sent me and she like really didn't like the way she looked cause of it. I didn't mind. To me, at that time, she was beautiful. But what I learned is this. "You can't expect someone who doesn't love themselves to love you" if they don't have the capacity to do it for themselves they cannot do it for you. We're all going to make it brother. I'm glad people still see this occasionally. Maybe one day she will too lol
My goodness... I hope the guy found a nice partner to spend his time and effort on... That shit hurts beyond believe.
I found a lovely woman right around the time this video dropped. She's very sweet, kind, and understanding of the emotional baggage I'm currently carrying.
@@alexl898 so happy to hear that dude! :3 keep doing your thing and enjoy the game!
@alexl898 I'm late to the party on this story but good for you, dude. I'm sorry you were put through that by the manipulative backstabber but I'm glad to hear you replaced that trashy scum for someone worthy of your singular focus, since you're absolutely deserving of another's in turn. Try not to let yesterday's news bog you down, much as that's easier said than done. You came out cleaner on the other side, and much as I'm sure it agonized to go through, it's better that you found out before those dreams of the future actualized into a ring and a messy divorce. Bullet massively dodged. She saved you time and money by showing her true colors like that, and good on you for definitively catching her in the act. If she ever tried to narcissistically claim that you were the one actually in the wrong for recording her without her knowledge or consent then know that the liar simply didn't like being caught and called out, but why should you spare her feelings when she knowingly and intentionally trampled all over your good intentions and trust?
Kent will be the next victim. Poor Kent. If someone is not treating their current bf/gf well, don't expect them to treat you well either if you started dating.
Let's call him bunny and no he won't be, he's in a poly situation much like mine but he didn't have the self-respect to cut it off. His wandering girlfriend recently came back into the picture. And I imagine once Amanda goes home she will be getting the me treatment while the other girl gets more attention cause she's there.
People... If you are sexually open or poly... TELL. YOUR. POTENTIAL. PARTNER.
I had an extensive conversation about being open in my relationship. We're not poly. Just sexually open. We have guidelines. Do's and don'ts. Neither of us have yet to use this prevliege, but its still there. These things take active discussion, time, boundaries and understanding. You can still cheat while being poly and open and those who abuse these things or like the concept of poly but abuse boundaries are people who are just plain old serial cheaters trying to hide behind a valid sexual label. Stand firm on your boundaries, ladies and gents.
They also give ethical non monogamy a bad rap. Which is 100% not my intention in this story. Non monogamy is doable. But not like this chief
@@alexl898 I agree.
biggest red flag
never date someone who opens with "My current relationship I'm already in is rocky"
and she's probably cheated on Kent already too lol
@@LionessPaladin I don't think she can. I don't think she has a back up plan on this one yet
As someone that's been in a polyeros relationship (and married) for 14+ years, that lady's terrible and hid behind poly to cover up her cheating. People like her disgust me and give poly a really bad name. I think the worst thing is how common people use this tactic to give themselves an excuse to cheat.
It's really just an easy cop out for people. I wish they wouldn't do it cause it gives real poly the negative social stigma. It's funny cause before all of this the idea of poly was a hard no and it didn't make sense. It's still a hard no for me. But all the reading and talking with poly people I did. Makes it make sense and makes me more accepting of the lifestyle. It's not for me. But if it's for you and you can make it work. By all means brothers and sisters live your truth.
No worries. Karma's gonna humble tf outta her
Damnn.... never get involved with anyone who's having trouble with their bf/gf cuz that'll be you someday. That was the OPs first red flag. I'm sure he's learned and moved on from this.
Haven't moved on all the way but am working on it
If someone does something once, they will most likely do it again. If she was flirting with him while having a BF, nothing is gonna stop her from doing the same thing if u are the BF. The Flag was there from the beginning, he just decided to ignore it. Lets All learn from this.
Yes, yes I did.
@@alexl898 its ok man, unfortunately a lot of us wont learn until it happens but these are the type of experience that even though they suck, we should be grateful for, they make us better and stronger and this will make you find a better relationship later on, stay strong and believe
@@lLucaDGV for sure got to try and get the positive. Tho at the moment I'm still in the suck this'll help me grow as a person
huh I actually look forward to this series now
Mee too man
I feel so bad for that guy... I dated someone who ended up coming out as poly and we were living together. Of course, the relationship ended but due to my own circumstances I had to still live with him and had to hear so many uncomfortable things. This same person was also the person who bought me XIV, HW+SB expansions cause he wanted to play with me (he ended up barely doing so)... thankfully I ended up making much better memories with someone so I wouldnt associate a favorite game with painful memories
That's a struggle at the moment . Like I took a month long break cause of this and actually had no intention of returning to this cursed star. But then I though of my homies I dragged into this game with me and came back. Tho I can't play like I was doing before. To much association with bitter memories. Her irl friends still talk to. Me and say they miss me as well. She hasn't said a word to them in over a month. Just straight up not talking to them. I couldn't go that long not talking to my friends.
@@alexl898 Its good that you still have those friendships, cause sometimes they are all we have to get through day to day bs. Hell, more friends for you and less for her, as it should be.
@@thecinders yes but i do want her to be better and that requires her friends to guide her some. I've never left a relationship wishing the other party ill. Even now. But fuck that other guy he a lolicon
I'm not sure but did homeboy pay for that chick's plane ticket? I woulda told her to pack and find her way back. FoH.
For her ticket to Georgia he payed for her ticket here and back I payed. She offered to reimburse me but I. Small increments but I felt like it woulda been like this dude ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxoIKhIfDLVtUGmRNPZQy7m6XqAjr1v-6l
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Your stuff is always so entertaining to watch. You seem to be like the only ff14 personality who's just an agreeable person to listen to.
Dawg...as someone who was conned into a poly relationship, used to create a life, keep that life from me, and suffering TO THIS DAY of PTSD from that relationship, i feel for this dude so hard.
wtf that sounds awful, im so sorry
listening to this during an in-game party, mixed with the dj's music, is really cool actually
Oh god, I’m from Georgia too and we stayyyy messy down here 😭😭 RIP Op much love goes out to
samee LOL
wait wait wait woah woah WHAT IM IN GEORGIA LMAOOO
Lovesense is an adult toy that's controlled by a phone on one end by one of the partners and that's all I can say and hope by comment doesn't get deleted
Yupp it was interesting to learn .... shinning should checked if she had that app on her phone 🤣
@@alexl898 Yeah lmao
I'm still getting over the fact the plane ticket cost 2k. Hope the guy finds some help. Definitely has a low self esteem.
This OP sounds like a keeper!
Thanks dude
What a large bag of red flags in one woman....
Yes
OP is too nice i wouldve just let her fend for herself and not drove her anywhere
I couldnt leave her to the wild dogs and crackheads. i shouldve lol
yeah my ex was asking me the same thing and I said no. She knew I didn't like that and will not share my girl with anyone else.
Hope he got a refund for those plane tickets and other expenses
Nope charged it to the game. I contemplated canceling the ticket but my father told me to "let her go home. Her life's probably rough enough as it is I raised you better than that shit" and he's right. She did offer to re imburse me for the ticket but then it'd be like ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxoIKhIfDLVtUGmRNPZQy7m6XqAjr1v-6l
@@alexl898 That link cracked me up. I have pleurisy; literally that made my sides hurt xD
@@AdamOwenBrowning yah it took me a while to find it but it fit so well. I even told her that when she offered to pay. Sent her the clip but I dont think she watched it :(
Hi! Poly person in a monogamous relationship here! I know we only have OP's perspective here, but polyarmory isn't a valid excuse for that kind of behavior, regardless.
If you are mutually interested in any person, romantically OR physically, sexuality is one of the first things you discuss. Honesty is crucial in ANY relationship, ESPECIALLY early on.
If you are Poly and want to stay poly, let your potential partners know. Sometimes they'll be open to it or be completely fine with it, which is AWESOME! However, not everyone is, which is also absolutely ok. What isn't ok is leading somebody on like OP's ex did or leaving room for doubt about being something you're not. If you are a poly person interested in someone who has a hard boundary with monogamy and isn't open to exploration, you are the one that will have to decide if the other person is worth committing monogamously too. Can you see a future with them, and see one exclusively with them? Do they make you feel safe and secure when you're with them? Do you feel you can be open and honest with them about anything? Do you feel satisfied with the relationship? If not, is there common ground you can find with each other to make sure those needs are met, without breaking boundaries or being disrespectful towards each other? Are you at a point in your life where you want to settle down? The choice is ultimately yours, but these are things to keep in mind. If either of you do try out polyamory/monogamy and you find you aren't satisfied later on, cheating or manipulation is NEVER a solution. Communicate. If you can't reach an understanding, then it's always better for both sides emotionally and mentally to simply walk away with mutual closure. Not everything is going to work out, but would you rather walk away knowing it was mutual, or feeling like you were betrayed and heartbroken by someone you cared for? Think about it.
At the end of the day, whether you're Poly or Mono, your romantic boundaries are valid. It's fine if YOU YOURSELF decide you want to test those waters with the right person, but always do it on your own terms. Never let yourself feel manipulated or pressured into it. Love comes in many forms for different types of people, but no matter what form it takes, I hope everyone can find it with people who show you the same love and respect you show them.
Wow. that's not what Poly is at all... going behind someone's back is just cheating. In Poly, everyone knows and consents even if not everyone participates.
that umbreon and espeon shirt is nice !!!
Hey brother sorry you had to go through this I went through something similar and what I learned was not to depend on anybody else to make you happy or change your mentality on life. Do not undervalue yourself. About making that move in the end ….nothing shamefull about break up sex ….if it’s only once ! XD
Yeah the whole thing really taught me that I have self respect now. 2 years ago I woulda let it slide to stay together or tried to make her toxic variant of poly work. Not this year tho.
the dude played himself
Wait. I'm confused. I don't use Discord, how do you watch anime or movies together? Do you just sit in the "Discord room" together and both watch it on your own ends, or is it shared in Discord somehow?
Screenshare is a thing on discord
Very sad story but I think this guy has a bright future with the right woman!!!
Thanks brother. I hope so too
No he's going to be scarred for life like me. I haven't dated in 3 years. 4 now? Since my last ex. I don't trust anyone anymore and would rather be alone than hurt again
@@Tailionis got to get back on the horse bro. Need to try and learn to trust. You'll find someone that makes the risk of that pain worth it
@@Tailionis Not everyone reacts the same way and I don't think his experience was as traumatic, instead, he wisefully could tell where the redflags were and what he could've done better to avoid this ordeal, that is why, I think with this wisdom he makes better choices, and can find the right lady for himself, yet for that time to come one must not seek and especially not online, but to be patient and let it happen from the heart in reality
@@yabiyabi I saw these red flags in hindsight. They were normal flags I chose to ignore at the time
If this is a series consider me subscribed lol Holy shit that was wild
I dont think there will be any updates. I've been blocked on every possible avenue of communication. Unless she sees the video this story is over. Or if I can get his staticto kick him for being a lolicon
Yes ff14 drama is a series I do! All diff stories!
The guy she was cheating on him with sounds liked he lived with someone (parents? Spouse?) and he was coming over to op's place when he was at work! I have had friends who realized they were poly or had their partner come out as poly and the other was not, I told them if they can't commit just call it off.
people just don't know the evil that they do...
the Op does well to put it behind him.
Logic tends to turn off for people that fall in love and you allow the stuffs that you think you deserve.
It's just such a shame that people can't just be happy she claimed that she was happy she wanted to go back to him
but then decided that he was boring and that it was worth destroying the friendship to bring another guy into his house
how evil can you be? there truely is no happy ending for these types of people and they go down dragging others with them. J:
Thumbnail is amazing! Lol
Big "everyone is an asshole" vibes here. Even if you suspect your partner is cheating, do not record them or snoop their stuff. I have had two partners who did similar shit because of their own paranoia and insecurity, based on nothing but "you have male friends" and I'm not the only person who has dealt with controlling partners who do this. If you struggle with insecurity and paranoid to a degree that violating someone's privacy feels justified to you, please go to therapy.
Yeah maybe stay away from erotic RPers? OP said he didn't mind cause it was not her but just her character ingame...yea but one thing leads to another. Huge red flag imo. It sucks how these things keep happening online tho.
I know plenty of people that can keep rp and reality separate. One of my best friends is such a dude. It's doable but requires clear boundaries that she doesn't apparently care to set.
@@alexl898 sorry to ask, but from what I understood from the story the girl was doing erotic RP ingame while dating you? I don't know but I feel that if my partner was doing that I would feel like they were cheating. We are all different tho but I see that as already going to far. Yes it is just pretend but there is something more there, specially when its of that nature. But hey maybe I'm just too old fashioned.
@@pelisinho yes you read that right. She was and yest that is too far for most people. But I feel that if your weaving a story together with someone sometimes sex happens. And ifnyoubdont fade to black thats OK. I feel erp and setting has a different feel to it.
I'm not gonna lie, if I was that guy, I just might end it all, that shit would take a toll on anyone.
19:14 nothing but facts.
This story gave me PTSD.
We're all gonna make it brother
Totally unrelated to the story: where is this jumper from?
This story was so juicy. Omg..😅
Everyone's feeling sorry for the guy, but he *knew* she was in a relationship, yet he kept entertaining the situation anyway...
Oh yah this ones karma. I had it coming a bit. Like if she strung me along for a week or 2 like she did the other guy for me cool beans. But she kept it up for damn near 2 and a half months. That's just cruel.
She better stop playing these types of games that how ppl end up missing...
I have never had any kinds of relationship with strangers in a video game. You just don't do that. Regarding what happened.. what is it with U.S guys in these kind of situations? all of them are super similar.
this video sums up why i dont do LDR and never will
LDR wasn't really the big issue here. It woulda been a problem if she lived with me too. Or at least that's how i feel
@@alexl898 i was just giving my opinion why i personally dont do ldr, but yeah it woulda been an issue if she moved in with you. like i said tho i dont do ldr because i believe lies and cheats are more prevalent online from my past experiences. thats strictly why i only date locally, my local experiences have been a lot better than my previous ldr experiences.
@@pyn_rae totally agree with you! It takes a lot of trust to do LDR, and it's hard to get to know people personally too!
What is Static? Don't think I've ever heard of it until I started watching your vids.
Wow I never would of thought content creators would resort to airing drama of this game. Pretty smart. Yeah the poly thing is a no go for my relationships I usually just stop talking to them.
People need to air it all out or people will just keep being shitbags
these stories really make me not want to date at all....
OP dodged a bullet
Just wow! 😵
Hi, i'm Leaf. That's my name on Final Fantasy, I never seen or heard stories like this and actually scares me. I thought Final Fantasy was free of this kind of drama but I was so wrong. I been cheated on before with a similar situation so I understand the pain and disgusting feeling in your chest. I do have a story as well but nothing as bad as this. is there a place to submit it?
Write it out and dm pathra my dude
the dude played himself, if you can’t smell crazy it’s ya own damn fault
Ted flags look like regular flags with rose tinted glasses brother
@@alexl898 i’m glad you suffered
Lol
@@pteronura6739 dam y u so savage, who hurt u?
I hope you go through the same thing so you can experience the hurt. Before you realise these things, it's usually too late. Love makes people stupid. Maybe when you go through it, you'll be less judgey of others.
I am laughing so hard
This is why i Love this series! These things shouldn’t happen but they do and it hurts! OP if you’re watching! Let me be you’re #1! I’ll buy you Taco Bell everyday! I’ll treat you right! We can do all that fun stuff! And you can have 💯 acess to me phone! ❤️ you’re a keeper❤️
I dont date dudes, sorry brother
Haha! If you are OP! It’s cool! I ment it as jester of comradery! I hope you are in better state of mind now bud! Sorry this happened to you!
I am the op I'm In a way better place at the moment. This whole thing helped meose about 30 going on 40 pounds so physically I'm in the best state ive ever been emotionally is well it could be better
If you have never met someone irl you are not dating. Sorry to say it but it's true.
Hey friends😊
was this Alchemy of Souls season 2 ? and if ya need drama hop to Chaos Omega and if not drama i will make one 😄
Alchemy of souls?
@@alexl898 yeah korean fantasy/drama serie with so many plot twists
@@EternalTrance I'll ask my sister she's big on k drama
@@alexl898 its awsum serie :D
An ungodly amount of cringe 😂
Yuuuuh
Isn't all these stories cringe? Basically just a bunch of inmature people that likes drama
Lmao WTF. Goes to show that video game romance isn't all it's cracked up to be
Once a cheater always a cheater.
Not the ntr
Yupp the ntr. That's what I get for putting ameliance in the new summer glam
Hilarious😂
Am I the only one who finds the whole recording OP did and the whole deleting of fotos kinda yucky as well. And no, I am not having the whole 'but look how she treated him!' spiel. Two wrongs don't make a right.
It was the only way to get her to confess sadly. She kept denying while using him to see the other guy. Besides, he has the right to record in his private residence for any security reasons. Her on the other hand invited someone she's not supposed to without the OP's permission. It's trespassing and his recording can be used as evidence if he had lost anything in his house
This channel is different for sure, it just feels off tho. Feeding on the drama 🎭
What how is it off? I watch reality tv shows this is just kinda like another form that people can sometimes relate to or learn from
I like it gives people a chance to get their stories out there. Sometimes people just need people to know their story man.
@@alexl898 okay, cool story bro.
@@pathra at the end of the day it’s just an observation. It felt off watching the video, and case and point. Both you and the “guy” starved out here.
@@isthathingsharp Just don't watch it then if its not what you are into EZ ^^
@10:07 soab. Almost stopped watching here already.