We should have a new law, in which the judges and parole board would go to jail if the perp they free reoffends. Am sick and tired of stories of innocent people losing their lives or raped or battered because a bleeding heart liberal lawyer thinks criminals have more rights than victims 😡
I agree, why did he mention race it is irrelevant to the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty too and his argument loses energy by race baiting.
He shouldn't be let out - he and his friend did absolutely horrendous things to that 2 year old, then left him on a railway line for next train..... not someone you'd like walking the street.
Question is why is his identity still a secret? Anyone who knows of his whereabouts have to keep shtum or face being arrested...whereas if his identity is exposed he can be treat like every other scumbag murderer. Why is this STILL a different case? what's with the special treatment?
I don't understand why he had to bring colour into his argument about why we should not have a death penalty. Plenty of white people have also been wrongly accused and charged, but he had to use the three black men in his argument. He could have simply said that he does not agree with the death penalty because he's seen people wrongly convicted in the past in his profession.
Dangerous, devious and unable to be rehabilitated. What a waste of humanity. My heart bleeds for little Jamie's family. I think there are some crimes where life means life and re-offending means NO MORE CHANCES. Lawyers are a weird bunch. Put themselves in the family's shoes.
Let him out, then let the media know who he is and where he lives... there is only one kind of justice he deserves and that's being torn to pieces by a baying mob!
@@susanbishop5228 I would.. it's not really murder is it? I can with 100% certainty say I would beat him to death, he doesn't deserve to even breath for what him and his "friend" did to that little boy, I remember the news, I have watched the documentaries... and it sickens me to my core, so yes I would. And im pretty sure I'm near the back of the queue to get to him! But people like you either think he's served his time or deserves to be locked up at even more cost to us!!! Paid Susan, paid to sit in a warm cell, 3 meals, TV, gym, school! What did James get?
Come on! DNA, technology and we can't bring back the death penalty??? I vote yes, depending on the seriousness of the crime!!!! No more new identities, the country is dying. You commit the crime you have to go!!!!!!!!
If the guy was allowed to leave prison, it would only be a matter of time before he is very likely to get either beaten up or worse as there must be many who are still wanting to beat the hell out of him.
Lets get one thing out of the way first, anyone who thinks we humans can produce an infallible justice system is kidding themselves. My personal opinion re Venables is that he will always be a danger to the public so should not be let out.
Oh come off it, it's well known killers often torture and kill small animals when they were kids and then go on to murder as adults. This man killed a child ffs.
@@mattsmith87 he tortured and murdered a 2 year old , those 2 pieces of worthless filth knew exactly what they were doing and when in prison other prisoners should have meted out their own justice, meanwhile scum thompson is out enjoying his freedom ,why hasnt anyone seen through him, recognised him & dealt with him with the help of plenty of mum's who will deal with him and make him wish he'd never been born, same goes for the other scumbag if he's ever let out, prisons to good for both of them. .
2 points about the death penalty. 1. It is not just a deterrent. It's also about reinforcing the need for justice. 2. As the KC implied, DNA evidence has made it much more unlikely that an innocent will get wrongly convicted, and it should only come into play where there has been irrefutable evidence produced such as DNA. The KC is basing his arguments in an era when there was no DNA profiling, so his precedent is no longer valid.
@@mattsmith87 plenty of clear cut cases, l pray you never loose a loved one in the hands of a criminal so you understand that kind of justice is indeed needed.
How many innocent deaths are you willing to accept? Because as long as there are humans involved, there will be mistakes. That is why I’m against the death penalty, even though there are plenty of people in jail who deserve it!
Why did it matter that it was 2 black men or that the actual guilty person was a white man? Was their race relevant to their guilt or innocence or to the story?
Ah, but Venables's human rights trump everything so I expect hi will be released. Then again the parole board might be made public and so they will get all sorts of abuse and threats, which means they will not release him and send it down the line to the next parole board.
I am mortified!!!!... Why is this barrister bringing race!?? A monster is a monster no matter of his skin colour!!!!!! How about all parole people are made liable if the people they release re-ofend!
He has been paroled twice and reoffended TWICE. It is blatantly obvious that he is still a threat to the public. The parole board should be committed to Broadmoor if they release him.
“It’s not punishment, it’s not a disincentive, justice is not retribution, it’s not rehabilitation, justice is REVENGE, it’s revenge of good against evil” - Thomas Carlyle (on prisons)
It's almost like he enjoys the fact that every time he does something wrong he'll have people spending a fortune on a new identity, a new house, a new location, new furniture etc.. yet there are people who cannot work on benefits struggling
If he is to be freed it should be on the condition that if he is convicted of any subsequent crime . He waives the right to his having his identity kept secret .
I've never thought psychopaths could be rehabilitated - and still don't. I have long thought the fact that Venables being only 10 misses the point, as far as his punishment was concerned. The point, surely, is that, if someone can be a psychopath at 10, and be capable of murder, then the law should treat them the same as they would any adult with the same mentality. i.e. with a life sentence. Otherwise, whenever that psychopath is released, he / she will still be a danger to the public and can always do it again.
parole boards want to believe in rehabilitation and err on the side of caution and that can be very dangerous especially when the criminal or deviant knows exactly how they work and what they want to hear so having nothing to lose and play the game.
What's the justice system come to? It will lock up people that are vulnerable people for silly crimes, I say that when it's clear you have clear case of a dangerous individual to society such as this piece of work then the cheapest possible way of dispatching him is the most cost effective way to save the tax payer money and saving the Poor victims of this monster anymore pain, Win Win do him in !!
Why is parole even an issue, they were both released on a life licence which means the 1st time they break the law they go back to jail(an Adult jail not baby jail where they spent their sentence) for life, he should've been sent to jail after his 1st offence that we know of, my daughter was the same age as Jamie when this happened, I have never forgotten Jamie and never will
If the prisons were he'll scapes, bread water and smashing rocks then the death penalty wouldn't need to be an option however, it's not, so what ever terrible crime they do commit they are rewarded with a comfort lifestyle.
He is definitely a threat to children and unsuspecting women with children. His dangerous adult leanings towards children and sex are most definitely a threat. Let’s not “woke” this one, please! We need to stand upright and accept what has taken place by a person who was born wrong and who will not change. Remember poor James at two years old. A sweet boy who cried out for his Mum.
Murderer Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. (1 John 3:15.) Murderer will be erased as never existed before. Revelation 21:8. All the memories of he or she will be erased. This is the reason why in eternal life there is no tears.
A further discussion would be, why was DB shoplifting that day and left her son to roam, she was renowned in the shopping centre for this behaviour and RB was a local drug dealer. I was in the Strand that day , in the butchers when JB went missing . Max Clifford covered this up to an inch of their lives. DB is worth a lot of money and RB is silenced. Just my opinion guys.
Why are you bringing that up??? If it hadnt been Jamie theyd have got hold of some other poor child they could batter , torture and kill. Leave the e ffing mum out of it.
@@Britannia. Free speech and my experience on that day. It is a difficult subject, they were both responsible in some way, whether you like it or not. Parental responsibility but they were glorified in the MSM as the perfect parents. When simply the mother was a shoplifter, neglecting her child and the father was a drug dealer. Did JB deserve to die, NO, would JB have got killed if the parents payed more attention, NO ... Like I said I was there that day, spent many a year in bootle strand, knew staff and security and DB was a POS . That child died because of them . Do you have a child and would you leave a baby outside the shop whilst your shoving meat down your coat ? Jog on......
I thought he was already out. Last year, I threatened to out a guy that his real name is Jon Venables. He is about the same age, and nobody knows what Venables looks like. This curbed his behaviour.
thomson the other disgusting murderer and torturer is out enjoying his life , why hasnt nobody recognised him and given him his just desserts . The ones that give the 2 of them their own torture & death penalty will be hero's to the public.
We should have a new law, in which the judges and parole board would go to jail if the perp they free reoffends. Am sick and tired of stories of innocent people losing their lives or raped or battered because a bleeding heart liberal lawyer thinks criminals have more rights than victims 😡
Your words are true, fair, honest and just✌
He should be freed only on the condition he has to live in the home of a member of the parole board... May help them come to the sensible decision!
So they start off discussing Venebles and that guy brings racism into it, I’m sick of this BS
spot on
But did he tell the truth? Surely that's the important part of what he said!
I agree, why did he mention race it is irrelevant to the death penalty. I'm against the death penalty too and his argument loses energy by race baiting.
@@wtmvm oh p*ss off ! The two issues have zero connection
Yes I agree with you. Any excuse to virtue signal. I just switch off.
no more new identities at our cost
Former Scotland Yard detective Peter Bleksley spot on - could not listen to that other chap with the Madonna poster behind him
Yes, what was that crap ?
He's probably an 'expert' on her. Studied her rise to fame and riches blah blah blah
He shouldn't be let out - he and his friend did absolutely horrendous things to that 2 year old, then left him on a railway line for next train..... not someone you'd like walking the street.
should never be let out
I agree with Peter.
Lock me in a room with him. Only one will be coming out.
Make sure you say goodbye to your mum before you go in.
Question is why is his identity still a secret? Anyone who knows of his whereabouts have to keep shtum or face being arrested...whereas if his identity is exposed he can be treat like every other scumbag murderer. Why is this STILL a different case? what's with the special treatment?
I don't understand why he had to bring colour into his argument about why we should not have a death penalty. Plenty of white people have also been wrongly accused and charged, but he had to use the three black men in his argument. He could have simply said that he does not agree with the death penalty because he's seen people wrongly convicted in the past in his profession.
you do not understand ? ( because you are a racist ? )
@@13strange67 haha. Give it a rest. I'll throw it right back at you, you racist.
When the death penalty was abolished the murder rate went up, its a deterrent and should be brought back.
Yes, I noticed that. He must have thought it added weight to his argument, because its topical. 😐
@@Britannia. Try telling that to Americans, there is a waiting list for death row , ????
It is not widely known that the depravity of the Bulger case affected the Judge so much that he retired not long after the trial had finished.
was he not a pervert himself found dead in womens clothes and hanging by his tights ???
Did he give them a maximum possible sentence?
Dangerous, devious and unable to be rehabilitated. What a waste of humanity. My heart bleeds for little Jamie's family. I think there are some crimes where life means life and re-offending means NO MORE CHANCES. Lawyers are a weird bunch. Put themselves in the family's shoes.
Put him in on an open wing in the hardest nick in the country. Job jobbed.
Let him out, then let the media know who he is and where he lives... there is only one kind of justice he deserves and that's being torn to pieces by a baying mob!
With pitch forks!
Are you willing to murder him.
If not don't expect others to do it. And go to prison
So immature
@@susanbishop5228 I would.. it's not really murder is it? I can with 100% certainty say I would beat him to death, he doesn't deserve to even breath for what him and his "friend" did to that little boy, I remember the news, I have watched the documentaries... and it sickens me to my core, so yes I would.
And im pretty sure I'm near the back of the queue to get to him!
But people like you either think he's served his time or deserves to be locked up at even more cost to us!!!
Paid Susan, paid to sit in a warm cell, 3 meals, TV, gym, school!
What did James get?
You sir are the very reason the death penalty no longer exists.
@@susanbishop5228 oh let's protect the criminals!!! 🙄
Should have gone and met his maker
The parole board is a body of well meaning people with little practical understanding of human nature in the real world.
Come on! DNA, technology and we can't bring back the death penalty??? I vote yes, depending on the seriousness of the crime!!!! No more new identities, the country is dying. You commit the crime you have to go!!!!!!!!
If the guy was allowed to leave prison, it would only be a matter of time before he is very likely to get either beaten up or worse as there must be many who are still wanting to beat the hell out of him.
That's why he'll be protected.
In that case, maybe he should be let out and see how long he lasts
Lets get one thing out of the way first, anyone who thinks we humans can produce an infallible
justice system is kidding themselves.
My personal opinion re Venables is that he will always be a danger to the public so should not be let out.
Oh come off it, it's well known killers often torture and kill small animals when they were kids and then go on to murder as adults. This man killed a child ffs.
No, the child killed a child.
@@mattsmith87 he tortured and murdered a 2 year old , those 2 pieces of worthless filth knew exactly what they were doing and when in prison other prisoners should have meted out their own justice, meanwhile scum thompson is out enjoying his freedom ,why hasnt anyone seen through him, recognised him & dealt with him with the help of plenty of mum's who will deal with him and make him wish he'd never been born, same goes for the other scumbag if he's ever let out, prisons to good for both of them. .
He should never be let out hese evil threw and threw
Come on stop being unreasonable to Venables, Mermaids have lined up a job for him in their safeguarding department.
2 points about the death penalty. 1. It is not just a deterrent. It's also about reinforcing the need for justice. 2. As the KC implied, DNA evidence has made it much more unlikely that an innocent will get wrongly convicted, and it should only come into play where there has been irrefutable evidence produced such as DNA. The KC is basing his arguments in an era when there was no DNA profiling, so his precedent is no longer valid.
It is not just about DNA. There are currently an estimated 200 people on death row in the US who are innocent. Your argument is still invalid.
@@mattsmith87 plenty of clear cut cases, l pray you never loose a loved one in the hands of a criminal so you understand that kind of justice is indeed needed.
@@mattsmith87 Is Venables innocent? What's your point? If there's absolutely no doubt, the resources should not be wasted on animals like this!
How many innocent deaths are you willing to accept? Because as long as there are humans involved, there will be mistakes. That is why I’m against the death penalty, even though there are plenty of people in jail who deserve it!
Corrupt police are everywhere.
Throw away the key.
Why did it matter that it was 2 black men or that the actual guilty person was a white man? Was their race relevant to their guilt or innocence or to the story?
Made it seem like an emotive argument, and he was playing to the gallery.
This Chris is clueless, as is the parole board. Venables has always had the idiots in the palm of his hand
Ah, but Venables's human rights trump everything so I expect hi will be released. Then again the parole board might be made public and so they will get all sorts of abuse and threats, which means they will not release him and send it down the line to the next parole board.
It's a great shame that the capital punishment was done away with. Enough said........
I am mortified!!!!... Why is this barrister bringing race!?? A monster is a monster no matter of his skin colour!!!!!! How about all parole people are made liable if the people they release re-ofend!
In my opinion, Venables should swing: End of story
20 years ago with the other piece of filth.
Two evil bastards. No mercy for them!!
Throw away the keys
He has been paroled twice and reoffended TWICE. It is blatantly obvious that he is still a threat to the public. The parole board should be committed to Broadmoor if they release him.
The Parole system should be ashamed of themselves.
If he gets parole a third time, it clearly is a travesty of justice.
Why should we pay out for his mew identity again and again. Let the Bolger family decide his fate.
That we are even talking about parole for this monster is abhorrent, let alone actually letting him out on the streets.
The other scumbag conned them ,this monster will do the same.
We all agree with @PeterBleksley 🙏👍
I really hope this guy gets what he deserves...and I am not talking about staying in jail. He deserves waaaay worse...
And the other one too
Why is this Lawyer conflating criminal cases?
How much is a length of rope??? Cheaper than prison and us continually paying for new identities.
In no way should Jon ever be freed. He is so dangerous and a HUGE danger to children!!
Release him.the public will get there own justice 😉
I wish that someone would just give him a permanent goodbye
NO
A city wept for James Bulger. This thing masquerading as a man should never be released.
Woodchipper, feet first
Or maybe repeat the punishment they doled out to James
He never got a just sentence in first place the monster keeps reoffending proving parents right about him.this inhumane monster should never get out.
Criminal barristers....
YUK!
You have been hunted, you’re time on the run is over
All you will achieve is another witness protection scheme.
Huge expense.
“It’s not punishment, it’s not a disincentive, justice is not retribution, it’s not rehabilitation, justice is REVENGE, it’s revenge of good against evil” - Thomas Carlyle (on prisons)
I agree. Poor little James, there is no justice on this earth.💔
The barrister has a closed body language and he’s not interested in anything other than opposition.
Retroactive death penalty!!!!!
It's almost like he enjoys the fact that every time he does something wrong he'll have people spending a fortune on a new identity, a new house, a new location, new furniture etc.. yet there are people who cannot work on benefits struggling
If he is to be freed it should be on the condition that if he is convicted of any subsequent crime . He waives the right to his having his identity kept secret .
I've never thought psychopaths could be rehabilitated - and still don't. I have long thought the fact that Venables being only 10 misses the point, as far as his punishment was concerned. The point, surely, is that, if someone can be a psychopath at 10, and be capable of murder, then the law should treat them the same as they would any adult with the same mentality. i.e. with a life sentence. Otherwise, whenever that psychopath is released, he / she will still be a danger to the public and can always do it again.
Should be kept in side forever
With technology DNA evidence there is no reason not to have DP
Are there any statistics on how often these parole boards get ot wrong??? What are the consequences for them if they do get it wrong???
We never hear about Robert Thompson
DP is the only suitable sentence here
I cannot understand how capital punishment is not a deterrent.
It is, the murder rate went up after the death penalty was abolished.
@@Britannia. Let’s bring it back!
I got very confused at 1:08 and thought that the fella on the right must be a ventriloquist.
I wonder if Peter believes in the death penalty. I do when it comes to the vile and inhumane.
parole boards want to believe in rehabilitation and err on the side of caution and that can be very dangerous especially when the criminal or deviant knows exactly how they work and what they want to hear so having nothing to lose and play the game.
Blecksley the expert yet again!🤮🤮🤮🤮
He will get out, lefty luvvies will hug him..
And tuck him into bed at night?
Oh don't start with the terrible American system 3 strikes. Just give correct sentences life should mean life
Considerd by whom ?
He is in jail now after 30 years. That is very good. If they let him out he will go back to jail over and over again. Again very good.
Not until hes re offended, hes a murdering paedophile and all paedophiles should locked up for the rest of their pathetic lives.
What's the justice system come to? It will lock up people that are vulnerable people for silly crimes, I say that when it's clear you have clear case of a dangerous individual to society such as this piece of work then the cheapest possible way of dispatching him is the most cost effective way to save the tax payer money and saving the Poor victims of this monster anymore pain, Win Win do him in !!
death penalty is the only deterrent just as nuclear weapons are a deterrent against wars escalating .
Why is parole even an issue, they were both released on a life licence which means the 1st time they break the law they go back to jail(an Adult jail not baby jail where they spent their sentence) for life, he should've been sent to jail after his 1st offence that we know of, my daughter was the same age as Jamie when this happened, I have never forgotten Jamie and never will
bout time he had no name change and address and location known to the public
venables could never be considered innocent so he is a poster boy for the reintroduction of the death penalty.
Thompson too, despite the facade of decency
If the prisons were he'll scapes, bread water and smashing rocks then the death penalty wouldn't need to be an option however, it's not, so what ever terrible crime they do commit they are rewarded with a comfort lifestyle.
He is definitely a threat to children and unsuspecting women with children. His dangerous adult leanings towards children and sex are most definitely a threat. Let’s not “woke” this one, please! We need to stand upright and accept what has taken place by a person who was born wrong and who will not change. Remember poor James at two years old. A sweet boy who cried out for his Mum.
Many serial killers have said it was porn that led them to murder.
how long was the initial sentence? has he done his time or not
No matter how long he does itl never be enough.
@@Britannia. possibly, but what was the initial verdict?
This can't be allowed to happen after what they did to poor Jamie. I'm disgusted
Who was he talking to?😂
The judge has a framed trans vogue cover in the background think he likes it up the away end
Murderer
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
(1 John 3:15.)
Murderer will be erased as never existed before. Revelation 21:8. All the memories of he or she will be erased. This is the reason why in eternal life there is no tears.
@m14wdotcom The problem for them is all the dead went to heaven. 😆
You forgot to add that unless there’s true repentance for your sins, God says ‘He never knew you’ when you die
This reporter is a joke
His behaviour in prison does not reflect his behaviour with a child/children.
Duh, could that be because there aren’t any defenceless two-year-olds in prison. You think?
A further discussion would be, why was DB shoplifting that day and left her son to roam, she was renowned in the shopping centre for this behaviour and RB was a local drug dealer. I was in the Strand that day , in the butchers when JB went missing . Max Clifford covered this up to an inch of their lives. DB is worth a lot of money and RB is silenced. Just my opinion guys.
Why are you bringing that up??? If it hadnt been Jamie theyd have got hold of some other poor child they could batter , torture and kill. Leave the e ffing mum out of it.
@@Britannia. Free speech and my experience on that day. It is a difficult subject, they were both responsible in some way, whether you like it or not. Parental responsibility but they were glorified in the MSM as the perfect parents. When simply the mother was a shoplifter, neglecting her child and the father was a drug dealer. Did JB deserve to die, NO, would JB have got killed if the parents payed more attention, NO ... Like I said I was there that day, spent many a year in bootle strand, knew staff and security and DB was a POS . That child died because of them . Do you have a child and would you leave a baby outside the shop whilst your shoving meat down your coat ? Jog on......
She wasnt shoplifting
You know them??? Denise is guilty, no two evil monsters for take the baby away from her?
A life for a life
I thought he was already out. Last year, I threatened to out a guy that his real name is Jon Venables. He is about the same age, and nobody knows what Venables looks like. This curbed his behaviour.
thomson the other disgusting murderer and torturer is out enjoying his life , why hasnt nobody recognised him and given him his just desserts . The ones that give the 2 of them their own torture & death penalty will be hero's to the public.