This is a very informative video🫂 I am a St.Thomas Syrian Christian from India, here some churches use the West Syriac Rite employing the Liturgy of St.James and some churches use the East Syriac Rite employing the Liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari. This division is a basis for a wide split between the United Syrian Christians of Kerala.
My mother-in-law and her mother speak one of the dialects/languages of the modern Jewish Eastern Aramaic. They emigrated to Israel from Iranian Kurdistan (north western Iran) Nowadays they speak Hebrew and they unfortunately did not teach their kids the language.
We know many Jews from Iranian Saqez, which you call Qotedymokhstan, who spoke Ashurit fluently, and who continued to do so in Israel as well. Ashurit was later called Aramite by Christian fanatics who wanted to honor their god Jesus with a language of his own. These Christian fanatics came to dominate the universities and spread this false theory of Ashurit language. Barukh KhaShem, Alaha d'Ashuraye Khaya Ekhad! Khayet Omtan Ashureta o Khaya Lishanan Ashuraya. And you, do not forget the words of Yahweh to the one who lies and falsifies the Torah: "Ekhre bpommokh o ere dakhmare bymmokh khshikha shekhtane brone d'satana."
Awesome video and explanation! I have a video on my channel showing a live comparison between West & East Syriac. I usually like to show it to beginners who don’t really understand the differences between the two accents yet.
I'd really love to get deeper into Syriac - Ephraim awaits! Well, deeper than my current level of barely-scratched-the-surface, anyway. But, alas and alak, this is pushed forwards to the future time and time again. At least I now have a physical copy of Muraoka's _Classical Syriac_ 2nd ed. to pick up when the time comes. Time management skills: would be nice to have them...
in qritun hada, ktubu letaHt. I was only able to guess what this means because I speak Arabic and Hebrew haha. that's so fun. in Arabic: idha qara'tum hadha, uktubu taHt. in Hebrew: im qara'tem et zeh, ketvu lemata.
Professor Wingert, I’m 50yo and started studying Aramaic on my own. How do you know when a Teth or Tau takes the “th” sound. I just found your channel and am working my way thru your videos, so do you have one that specifically answers that? Or do you have a book that discusses that? I’ve got a couple books off Amazon, but I can’t really do a $400 textbook. I pre-thank you for any suggestions, sir.
You’ll know when a Tau is a “Thau” or takes a “Th” sound when the Tau letter has a small dot underneath it called a “Rukkakha” which looks like this ܬ݂ Now as for how to know when the Tau becomes softened in this manner - I think Professor Wingert has a video on it - but it depends on a few rules. The first rule is If the letter Tau follows an open syllable in a word, then it becomes softened. For example in the word “Tawditho” meaning thanksgiving or religion, it follows the pattern (C for consonant, V for vowel) CVC-CV-CV. Since the letter Tau follows the Yodh vowel and is in an open syllable it becomes softened. There are two other rules but i can’t type them all out right now.
@@bar_yama Thank you! But, when you say the dot underneath, do you mean the Syriac alphabet? Because I’ve gotten the Biblical Aramaic books and one extremely short book on Galilean. I posted on this video because it was the most recent, so I should’ve clarified. Can I assume the same rule applies? I have encountered open and closed syllables (I’m about as beginner as beginner can be LOL) so I’ll focus on that and get it down pat. I’ve always liked Mesopotamian and Levant ancient history, so that’s why I picked that over modern Syriac. Thank you for taking the time to help. I really do appreciate it. And I completely understand about too much to type. I think those proverbial monkeys with the typewriters trying to produce Shakespeare type faster than I do. Thanks again!
@@bar_yama oh, and a total guess here, but is your username a combo of Hebrew and Japanese? Bar-Yama (son of the god/great spirit, something like that? I know Mt. Fuji is called Fuji-yama because it’s sacred) I’m probably totally wrong, but that came to mind immediately.
Professor, you will never think outside the box the educational institution set for you, and you cannot be blamed - because otherwise you would never have passed your studies and even become a professor. Those who are to be blamed and humiliated at all costs are the Ashuraye who mutilate their identity by calling their language other than Ashuraya. Those Ashuraye who mutilate their identity in this way have unfortunately sold their single brain cell and ass to those who deny the Ashuraye and want to erase them from history - just like you and all the "learned" have sold your conscience and ass to the educational institution.
@@bar_yamaRkakha bgarmokh, Ptakha btizedymmokh, Esasa bkharetokh, Rpasa breshedbabokh, o noqza breshokh dakhmare: what are you going to do with this when your entire existence is at stake and your identity is being questioned?
Professor, during the time of Mor Jacob of Edessa, the distinction between West and East vocalisation was not a thing right ? It came a bit later ? The spoken Syriac in Urhoy was still closer to the eastern pronunciation which is overall the most conservative one right ? Great video, tawdi.
From what I recall, the distinction was first (at least for us researching the topic) noted by Mor Jacob of Edessa. I'd need to review his grammar to be sure. It is an interesting, and potentially a real rabbit hole to dive into. I would love to be able to spend some time researching the matter more thoroughly and unfortunately for me, I don't know enough about that at the present.
This is the first video from the channel that I watch. I was wondering why the video started with the ‘signs’ on the letters. Well there’s so many places one can start from. It’s a shame that the Aramaic ‘languages’ are disparate as they are. Not been united under one political entity ever since the last Assyrian state around 700BC including the entire Levant region. Of course even at the time the regional accents existed but perhaps there was one official language? I don’t know.
Mo amrat barnasha? Lishanan ile Ashuraya o la mendi khina. Tora ila up tashita d'Omtan Ashureta o ktawan d'Ashuraye Mqodsha. KhaShem Barukh Omtan Ashureta! Ashur Betkhaya akhji Akh wartota Hudeta, Bkhela d'Alahan Khaya Yahwe KhaShem.
just a note regarding two of the eastern Syriac diacritics: rbasa arika, I know it as ܙܠܡܐ ܦܫܝܩܐ (zlama psheeqa) rbasa karya, I know it as ܙܠܡܐ ܩܫܝܐ (zlama qashya)
Thank you professor Michael
This is a very informative video🫂
I am a St.Thomas Syrian Christian from India, here some churches use the West Syriac Rite employing the Liturgy of St.James and some churches use the East Syriac Rite employing the Liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari. This division is a basis for a wide split between the United Syrian Christians of Kerala.
Welcome to the channel!
Fantastic video. Very well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, ܬܘܕܝ!
My mother-in-law and her mother speak one of the dialects/languages of the modern Jewish Eastern Aramaic. They emigrated to Israel from Iranian Kurdistan (north western Iran) Nowadays they speak Hebrew and they unfortunately did not teach their kids the language.
We know many Jews from Iranian Saqez, which you call Qotedymokhstan, who spoke Ashurit fluently, and who continued to do so in Israel as well.
Ashurit was later called Aramite by Christian fanatics who wanted to honor their god Jesus with a language of his own. These Christian fanatics came to dominate the universities and spread this false theory of Ashurit language.
Barukh KhaShem, Alaha d'Ashuraye Khaya Ekhad!
Khayet Omtan Ashureta o Khaya Lishanan Ashuraya.
And you, do not forget the words of Yahweh to the one who lies and falsifies the Torah: "Ekhre bpommokh o ere dakhmare bymmokh khshikha shekhtane brone d'satana."
Hi Professor Michael.
How can I contact you?
Do you have an email?
Greetings
professorwingert@gmail.com
Thank you so much for a new video on Syriac!! We knuckleheads love it.
Awesome video and explanation! I have a video on my channel showing a live comparison between West & East Syriac. I usually like to show it to beginners who don’t really understand the differences between the two accents yet.
Thank you for this amazing video.
I'd really love to get deeper into Syriac - Ephraim awaits! Well, deeper than my current level of barely-scratched-the-surface, anyway. But, alas and alak, this is pushed forwards to the future time and time again.
At least I now have a physical copy of Muraoka's _Classical Syriac_ 2nd ed. to pick up when the time comes.
Time management skills: would be nice to have them...
in qritun hada, ktubu letaHt.
I was only able to guess what this means because I speak Arabic and Hebrew haha. that's so fun.
in Arabic: idha qara'tum hadha, uktubu taHt.
in Hebrew: im qara'tem et zeh, ketvu lemata.
You are the target demographic for this channel! Awesome job!
Professor Wingert, I’m 50yo and started studying Aramaic on my own. How do you know when a Teth or Tau takes the “th” sound. I just found your channel and am working my way thru your videos, so do you have one that specifically answers that? Or do you have a book that discusses that? I’ve got a couple books off Amazon, but I can’t really do a $400 textbook. I pre-thank you for any suggestions, sir.
You’ll know when a Tau is a “Thau” or takes a “Th” sound when the Tau letter has a small dot underneath it called a “Rukkakha” which looks like this ܬ݂
Now as for how to know when the Tau becomes softened in this manner - I think Professor Wingert has a video on it - but it depends on a few rules.
The first rule is If the letter Tau follows an open syllable in a word, then it becomes softened. For example in the word “Tawditho” meaning thanksgiving or religion, it follows the pattern (C for consonant, V for vowel) CVC-CV-CV. Since the letter Tau follows the Yodh vowel and is in an open syllable it becomes softened.
There are two other rules but i can’t type them all out right now.
@@bar_yama Thank you! But, when you say the dot underneath, do you mean the Syriac alphabet? Because I’ve gotten the Biblical Aramaic books and one extremely short book on Galilean. I posted on this video because it was the most recent, so I should’ve clarified.
Can I assume the same rule applies? I have encountered open and closed syllables (I’m about as beginner as beginner can be LOL) so I’ll focus on that and get it down pat.
I’ve always liked Mesopotamian and Levant ancient history, so that’s why I picked that over modern Syriac.
Thank you for taking the time to help. I really do appreciate it. And I completely understand about too much to type. I think those proverbial monkeys with the typewriters trying to produce Shakespeare type faster than I do.
Thanks again!
@@bar_yama oh, and a total guess here, but is your username a combo of Hebrew and Japanese? Bar-Yama (son of the god/great spirit, something like that? I know Mt. Fuji is called Fuji-yama because it’s sacred) I’m probably totally wrong, but that came to mind immediately.
Professor, you will never think outside the box the educational institution set for you, and you cannot be blamed - because otherwise you would never have passed your studies and even become a professor.
Those who are to be blamed and humiliated at all costs are the Ashuraye who mutilate their identity by calling their language other than Ashuraya. Those Ashuraye who mutilate their identity in this way have unfortunately sold their single brain cell and ass to those who deny the Ashuraye and want to erase them from history - just like you and all the "learned" have sold your conscience and ass to the educational institution.
@@bar_yamaRkakha bgarmokh, Ptakha btizedymmokh, Esasa bkharetokh, Rpasa breshedbabokh, o noqza breshokh dakhmare: what are you going to do with this when your entire existence is at stake and your identity is being questioned?
Fascinating.
Professor, during the time of Mor Jacob of Edessa, the distinction between West and East vocalisation was not a thing right ? It came a bit later ? The spoken Syriac in Urhoy was still closer to the eastern pronunciation which is overall the most conservative one right ?
Great video, tawdi.
From what I recall, the distinction was first (at least for us researching the topic) noted by Mor Jacob of Edessa. I'd need to review his grammar to be sure. It is an interesting, and potentially a real rabbit hole to dive into. I would love to be able to spend some time researching the matter more thoroughly and unfortunately for me, I don't know enough about that at the present.
“If you read this, write below” 😁
Yeeaaahhhhh, buddy!
This is the first video from the channel that I watch. I was wondering why the video started with the ‘signs’ on the letters.
Well there’s so many places one can start from.
It’s a shame that the Aramaic ‘languages’ are disparate as they are. Not been united under one political entity ever since the last Assyrian state around 700BC including the entire Levant region. Of course even at the time the regional accents existed but perhaps there was one official language? I don’t know.
ถามน้องเด้งยัง ชอบมั้ย จะไปสวบเค้าป่ะ ลูกสาวมีความเป็นตัวเองสูงมากอยู่นะ😂
ธรรมเนียมไทย ลูกสาวแต่งเข้าบ้านนะ ไม่ใช่อะไรเพื่อความปลอดภัยของผู้อื่นจากลูกสาวน่าจะดุอยู่นะโตขึ้นอ่ะ😅
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In qritun hade ktubu ltaxt
East Syriac as you called it was our language from Akkadian roots ...we do not belong to history of TORAH
Mo amrat barnasha? Lishanan ile Ashuraya o la mendi khina. Tora ila up tashita d'Omtan Ashureta o ktawan d'Ashuraye Mqodsha.
KhaShem Barukh Omtan Ashureta!
Ashur Betkhaya akhji Akh wartota Hudeta, Bkhela d'Alahan Khaya Yahwe KhaShem.
ܬܘܕܝ ܣܓܝ ܪܒܝ ܡܝܟܼܐܝܠ
just a note regarding two of the eastern Syriac diacritics:
rbasa arika, I know it as ܙܠܡܐ ܦܫܝܩܐ (zlama psheeqa)
rbasa karya, I know it as ܙܠܡܐ ܩܫܝܐ (zlama qashya)