How Similar Are ARABIC and HEBREW? (Massive reboot)

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  • @Langfocus
    @Langfocus  Місяць тому +73

    Hi, everyone! I hope you like the video! Don't forget to check out the recommended course ▶Arabic Uncovered: bit.ly/ArabicUncovered
    ▶Or you can view the Uncovered courses for ALL languages here: bit.ly/Uncovered-ALL-languages
    Those are affiliate links, so any purchase you make helps support Langfocus (at no extra cost to you).

    • @user-qy8ib4ef1g
      @user-qy8ib4ef1g 22 дні тому +1

      12:40 in hebrew the word madrsha is used to describe a wide variety of educational institutions that usually deal in informal education and specialize in a certain field. (Most commonly in religous fields but i heard it being used in other contexts)
      The origin of the word is in the word midrash, which means: study, and research, and in the term "Beit Midrash" (house of study), the prigin of midrash is from the word "drash" which in the bible it means "searched", in modern hebrew we don't used drash with the same meaning, drash in modern hebrew means "demanded" or "required

    • @patrickl8943
      @patrickl8943 17 днів тому

      10:45 mayim is technically in the "dual-plural" form, hebrew has singular, dual (for special uses) and plural forms of words

    • @carvingtheway
      @carvingtheway 11 днів тому

      They both came from Canaanite Phoenician/Aramaic

    • @victoremman4639
      @victoremman4639 8 годин тому

      find also the articles about comparison hebrew-arabic : "La Torah à la lumière du Qur'an / التوراة العبرية في نور القرآن / The Torah in light of the Qur'an / התורה באור הקוראן"

    • @victoremman4639
      @victoremman4639 8 годин тому

      @@user-qy8ib4ef1g Root DRSh and arabic DRS : it means precisly "directed and repeated effort" it came from agriculture, the act of beating the straw to extract the seeds. Enoch is called Idris, and known as the first Scholar, teacher. Initially, it was not DRSh but DRS. The hebrew ש is ambivalent, coming from a mis-pronunciation and broken transmission.

  • @GeographyKing
    @GeographyKing Місяць тому +1634

    Be careful, man. I posted a video about the geography of Israel and Palestine. Just talking about the rivers, lakes, mountains, climate, etc. There was no politics, no discussion of the war at all, and UA-cam still demonetized the video and temporarily shadow banned the channel.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Місяць тому +276

      The bots know nothing of context. They just detect trigger words and execute their punishment in black and white terms. Equal parts Orwellian and Kafkaesque.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  Місяць тому +335

      Did they re-monetize it after a manual review?

    • @chefnyc
      @chefnyc Місяць тому +40

      The video gets the views from the actual audience in the first 2-3 days. A manual review won’t end up in back pay. I am guessing no ads are shown over a video that is demonitized.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  Місяць тому +197

      @chefnyc Yes, that's right. I've been doing this for a long time so I've been through that kind of thing before. There are ways to avoid it, beginning with the content itself. But also, setting this up as a premiere in advance gives me time to see if there are issues with monetization before the video goes live. But on UA-cam, you never know for sure what will happen.

    • @GeographyKing
      @GeographyKing Місяць тому +92

      @@Langfocus Yes, but only after I disabled the comments.

  • @Chris-fh2cl
    @Chris-fh2cl 28 днів тому +401

    The old video was absolutely not trash, your channel is great! So excited for this video!

  • @gergelygalvacsy2251
    @gergelygalvacsy2251 28 днів тому +624

    I love it when languages are like “Yeah this word in language A is an everyday common noun, but its cognate in language B is seen as archaic and only used in certain context like religion”

    • @VictorVæsconcelos
      @VictorVæsconcelos 28 днів тому +57

      Yeah that happens in Portuguese where "ruber" (red) became "vermelho", which comes from "vermillion" (a specific shade of red), unlike most other Romance languages which use, e.g., rojo. You can still use "rubro", though, it just sounds way too poetic for everyday use.

    • @NastenkaVasileva
      @NastenkaVasileva 28 днів тому +37

      Yeah, like English and it's romance vocabulary. A totally normal word in Spanish or French can be something completely obscure and poetic/academic in English, while still remaining an actual englush word.

    • @derechoplano
      @derechoplano 28 днів тому +8

      ​@@VictorVæsconcelos in Standard Catalan is vermell, although in Valencian and classical Catalan is roig. Same as Portuguese

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 28 днів тому +7

      @@NastenkaVasileva yeah that's why us, Romance language speakers might sound posh to natives when communicating in English. The fact we are taught mainly literary vocabulary instead of more casual forms adds up to this discrepancy. And to make things more complicated, an old French or a Latin root like "discrepancy" could be archaic or become a false friend in modern Romance languages.

    • @HweolRidda
      @HweolRidda 28 днів тому +8

      Like "tu" in French and "thou" in English.... one is archaic and mainly known from King James bible.

  • @marsoff9898
    @marsoff9898 28 днів тому +236

    The return of one of the greatest language channels ever. Welcome back.

  • @rashadsaid3342
    @rashadsaid3342 28 днів тому +1058

    I am from Gaza and , i am lucky enough to understand bothe of them . Such a great video.

    • @ted9030
      @ted9030 28 днів тому +48

      i didnt know you guys had internet

    • @wicksavage3459
      @wicksavage3459 28 днів тому +169

      From* does not have to mean currently in gaza

    • @rashadsaid3342
      @rashadsaid3342 28 днів тому +334

      @@wicksavage3459 by the way my family is not hamas yet this didn't protect my family from losing there home .

    • @rashadsaid3342
      @rashadsaid3342 28 днів тому +277

      @@ted9030 I rely on weak Israeli connections, and since they’re the only option, SIM prices can jump to $100 and are tough to find. Plus, they block your SIM if they figure out you're from Gaza.

    • @homosapien.a6364
      @homosapien.a6364 28 днів тому +20

      @@ted9030 lmao wtf

  • @idraote
    @idraote 28 днів тому +132

    My only problem about this video is that it is too short 😄
    Thank you and many thanks to Eden and Mahmoud.

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 26 днів тому +4

      What the hell do you mean short?
      It's half an hour long

    • @avitaltagar
      @avitaltagar 25 днів тому +11

      ​@@DragonTheOneDZA 25 minutes for a discussion of 2 languages that are well over 1000 years old barely begins to scratch the surface. This is the tip of the iceberg on the topic.
      Not to say that this video isn't good, I really liked it, but you could delve waaaaaay deeper into the subject than this. There are people who built entire careers based on studying just one of these languages.

    • @samirpppp
      @samirpppp 18 днів тому +2

      @@DragonTheOneDZAhalf an hour is a short video, your brain is fried from UA-cam shorts

    • @MartinezMartinez-n8j
      @MartinezMartinez-n8j 14 днів тому +2

      ​@@samirppppLets chill....

  • @homosapien.a6364
    @homosapien.a6364 28 днів тому +74

    I feel so privileged to be able to speak both of these wonderful language.
    as always Paul, thank you for these amazing comparing languages videos.
    your pronunciation is great too, but if you plan to make other videos related to Arabic or Hebrew in the future, I'd be happy to help with reading word or sentences!

    • @vanetee3369
      @vanetee3369 28 днів тому

      How did you learn them

    • @homosapien.a6364
      @homosapien.a6364 28 днів тому +15

      @@vanetee3369 Arabic is my native language, then learned Hebrew on my own online. was and still is a fun experience!

    • @BGDMusic
      @BGDMusic 28 днів тому +1

      i should learn both too but i don't have much time

    • @vanetee3369
      @vanetee3369 28 днів тому +4

      @@homosapien.a6364 I'm interested in learning Hebrew as an Arabic speaker would you mind helping me? Cuz I didn't find good resources

    • @NickFactor
      @NickFactor 19 днів тому

      ​@@vanetee3369try chatgpt to help you out with the sources for learning. It helped me with spanish like that

  • @lordgino77
    @lordgino77 27 днів тому +98

    I'm a native Hebrew speaker, and your video is perfect. You really captured Hebrew nuance used in day-to-day talk. Chapeau!
    I totally agree with your bottom line: when I hear Arabic, I understand a word here-and-there, but definitely not the whole sentence.
    btw, some other similar words that don't show in your video: "zaman", meaning a long time ago, similar to "zman" meaning time, or "Kula makan" which is similar to "kol makom" - everywhere.

    • @galgrunfeld9954
      @galgrunfeld9954 25 днів тому +5

      Specifically zman/zaman is borrowed from Persian.

    • @finn8518
      @finn8518 24 дні тому +5

      I hope you‘re on the right side of history and stand against the crimes of your government. Free Palestine❤️

    • @duduboy
      @duduboy 24 дні тому +10

      @@finn8518 free pale-stine from hamas

    • @aliazarmehralparslan6067
      @aliazarmehralparslan6067 24 дні тому

      ​@@duduboyFree isntreal from Likuud

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому +10

      @@finn8518 Please stop harassing Jews and subjecting them to tests like this. Focus your energies not on telling Jews what to believe, but rather expend that effort to support Palestinians. You can also support the efforts of Jews in Israel/Palestine who are working right now to make a better society.

  • @orbracha25
    @orbracha25 28 днів тому +54

    Wonderful video! As a native Hebrew speaker I found it very interesting, informative and accurate. I would like to mention the words for father and mother (av and em) you gave are very uncommon nowadays, as you alluded to later in the video, you are far more likely to come across the Aramaic loanwords aba (אבא) and ima (אמא)

    • @yasmin7903
      @yasmin7903 23 дні тому +1

      Interesting. Those are similar to the Arabic words as well and are even used the same in some Arabic dialects.

    • @diogenebladi4469
      @diogenebladi4469 23 дні тому

      ​@@yasmin7903also in tamazight

    • @orbracha25
      @orbracha25 21 день тому +1

      @@yasmin7903 Well, Aramaic is a Semitic language as well, so that's why it uses very similar words sometimes

    • @mzej1444
      @mzej1444 16 днів тому +1

      Ubah and imah is also used in arabic by people in saudi arabia

  • @turki1258
    @turki1258 28 днів тому +52

    9:53 In some Saudi dialects the word "yalad" also means boy يلد, It is interesting that it exists in Hebrew

    • @redmonstea
      @redmonstea 22 дні тому +2

      اتوقع حتى العراقيين و بعض دول الشام كما يقولونها "يلد"

    • @SheIsTired
      @SheIsTired 9 днів тому

      حمضيات يلد 😂
      الله يعز المملكة يا رب

  • @CosmicDoom47
    @CosmicDoom47 28 днів тому +22

    I love the idea of seeing speakers of the different languages react to the other language. I think it's a great touch.

  • @jeffmitchellberry70
    @jeffmitchellberry70 28 днів тому +20

    This is my favorite video that you've done. I've never thought about Hebrew and Arabic being related (Indo-European languages I understand better than Semitic languages), but you not only explained how they are, but gave some pretty convincing examples to bring their common history to life. Really well done.

  • @korubi-ippe
    @korubi-ippe 27 днів тому +7

    I enjoy this type of long and elaborate content of yours Paul! I am even more glad seeing you being able to pronounce those Arabic and Hebrew phrases by yourself. Please keep up the good work. Less quantity is okay when the quality is good

  • @ikhveysnit
    @ikhveysnit 28 днів тому +76

    The Sefer-Sifr difference has an interesting parallel in Yiddish and other Jewish diasporic languages. In Hebrew sefer is any book but in Yiddish and other diasporic Jewish languages it is specifically a work of religious scholarship and/or a book of the Bible, which parallels the Arabic Sifr/Kitab distinction.

    • @ikhveysnit
      @ikhveysnit 28 днів тому +9

      Another note from a different Germanic language: In Old English the general word for food was "mete" which became our modern "meat" like the ancient Semitic word for food narrowed to mean bread in Hebrew and meat in Arabic.

    • @EllieK_814
      @EllieK_814 28 днів тому +8

      It's funny that the same thing happened with Arabic loanwords in Indonesian, spoken mostly by Muslims. In Arabic, kitab can just mean any book, but in Indonesian it's specifically used for a holy text.

    • @orbracha25
      @orbracha25 28 днів тому +3

      That makes sense, Yiddish borrowed a lot of words from Hebrew, but mostly words with religious connotations, while more day-to-day words mostly have Germanic roots, so it would make sense that the Hebrew word for book would have religious connotations while the more Germanic bukh wouldn't

    • @jaif7327
      @jaif7327 28 днів тому +2

      i remember in greek kitapi means something along the lines of registry book i don’t exactly remember unfortunately

    • @ikhveysnit
      @ikhveysnit 27 днів тому +1

      @@EllieK_814 That's fascinating. It's an exact parallel. The process was probably identical as well, i.e. a loan due to common use by people familiar with the liturgical language.

  • @frenchertoast
    @frenchertoast 28 днів тому +43

    The root עבד can also mean worship in hebrew, like in לעבוד אלילים

    • @exampleemail848
      @exampleemail848 28 днів тому

      לא רק אלילים...

    • @bigdubi24
      @bigdubi24 26 днів тому +2

      נכון וגם ״עבד השם״ ו״עבדיה״

  • @almami1599
    @almami1599 28 днів тому +89

    22:36 one interesting fact is that the form using “sa” before a verb to indicate the future tense in MSA is not used in any single Arabic dialect but is used in Maltese

    •  28 днів тому +15

      in tunisia 99 % arab muslim the word for god is rab while in malta 95% non arab christian the word for god is alla !

    • @mlgdigimon
      @mlgdigimon 28 днів тому +4

      Interesting, as a Libyan I can understand Maltese very well

    • @Nailamouhoub
      @Nailamouhoub 28 днів тому +2

      ​@@mlgdigimonme too I am algerain

    • @tFighterPilot
      @tFighterPilot 28 днів тому

      As an Israeli, I hear it a lot in the Islamic chanting "Khayber Khayber ya Yahood. Jaish Muhamad saya'ud". I usppose it's in MSA.

    • @MooImABunny
      @MooImABunny 28 днів тому

      ​@@tFighterPilotk.

  • @stephenfisher3721
    @stephenfisher3721 19 днів тому +10

    I am an American Jew who first learned Hebrew for religious purposes. When I heard you mentioned medrasah in Arabic I was reminded of the Hebrew bet-midrash.
    I checked wikipedia which states:
    The word "midrasha" is based on the term beit midrash, "house of study"; the root דרש means "to seek [knowledge]", and is then generalized to mean "expound". It is cognate with the Arabic "madrasah," which also refers to a place of learning.

    • @Mentous680
      @Mentous680 17 днів тому +1

      in Arabic, madrasah is based on the root d-r-s which means study, then you add ma in the beginnig which means the place of, like maktaba means liberary or "place of books", then at the end the ah means it is a feminine word.

  • @diarmaiddillon1568
    @diarmaiddillon1568 28 днів тому +7

    Have been waiting for you to reboot this subject for a long time ..great video

  • @alsadekalkhayer7007
    @alsadekalkhayer7007 28 днів тому +139

    Levantin Arabic is intermixed with Syrian/Syriac/Arameic, which is why they end up closer to Hebrew

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +75

      It's hard for me to find concrete examples of this, but for some reason Levantine feels the most natural to me, as someone who learned Hebrew first. So I intuitively feel you're right.
      And as an INFJ I'm fine with that lack of concrete evidence. :)

    • @alsadekalkhayer7007
      @alsadekalkhayer7007 28 днів тому +15

      @@Langfocus here you manage to give me something new to research, INFJ, nice one. I think I'll dive i to that first, then I'll head back to you in the future in case I can support with evidence 👍
      Funny thing is, I might know about English more than I know about Arabic 😅

    • @avtaras
      @avtaras 28 днів тому +8

      @@LangfocusThere are mostly just substrates from Hebrew and Aramaic / Syriac rather than grammar. Conjugation of verbs in Syrian Arabic has Aramaic influence. Sometimes gh and dh are pronounced as ayin and ṣ respectively, e.g. ghadab -> ‘assab, so more like Northwest Senitic. And Check Ibrahim Bassal’s works on the matter. Until 17th century some villages still spoke Aramaic in the Levant. Around 3 still do but their population is dwindling due to the situation in Syria.

    • @sreekar5691
      @sreekar5691 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@LangfocusI hear Levantine Arabic is the most similar to Fusha, is that true?

    • @ilovecatsandsoup
      @ilovecatsandsoup 28 днів тому +2

      @@sreekar5691as a levantine arabic speaker, id say the vocabulary is the closest to fusha although we do have many words from outside origins or languages that predate arabic like aramaic, but the pronunciation is wayy softer than fusha arabic

  • @matthewcarter2500
    @matthewcarter2500 26 днів тому +5

    Thank you so much, Paul, this was really wonderfully done. I loved the original video, it's stuck with me, and this was a very worthy reboot, when I will admit I've been thinking a lot about this topic (probably not just me).

  • @naamashang5107
    @naamashang5107 28 днів тому +44

    תודה רבה פול! Thanks for this wonderful video, as a Hebrew speaker I do understand some Arabic naturally, but having studied Arabic for quite a few years, especially the Palestinian dialect, I pretty much understand everything. It's so nice to focus on similarities at a time like this… The timing of this could not have been better, thanks for everything.

  • @earthteamjordan
    @earthteamjordan 27 днів тому +16

    As a Syrian Arabic speaker, I can make out a few words when hearing Hebrew sentences. Usually its the pronouns, numbers, and some verbs and nouns. Its also notable that Interrogative words in both languages are extremely similar, I'm surprised you didn't mention it, because its one of the first things I notice as an Arab when I hear Hebrew speakers. For example, "Ma" is "What" in both Arabic and Hebrew. Adding the preposition "Li" in Arabic which is "To" in both Arabic and Hebrew, will give you "Lima" meaning "Why" or literally "To what", similarly in Hebrew, we can see the word for "Why" is "Lama" very similar to Arabic.
    Also in Levantine Arabic, we sometimes add the definite Article "Ha" or Hal" before a word instead of traditional "Al" meaning "The" For example, "Ha'sayarra" would mean "This car" or "Hal-Kitab" would mean "This book". I believe this has an old common Semitic Root with Hebrew, because the letter "H" in Arabic or the sound "Ha" is still used in Modern Standard Arabic to indicate specificity. For example "Tha" in Arabic is "This", but "Ha-tha" is also "This" but more specific. Similarly, Hebrew uses "Ha" for "The", and "Za" for "This".

    • @dubalrimaal
      @dubalrimaal 25 днів тому +1

      We add Ha sometimes when speaking in Iraqi dialect for a definite noun instead of ال. I always assumed it was something like a shortening of هذا / هذة . I think they all may be interconnected.

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому +2

      A very small correction; in Hebrew the word for "this" is zot (feminine) or zeh (masculine). Ha-mekhonit ha-zot = this car; ha-leḥem ha-zeh = this bread.

  • @Rai.
    @Rai. 23 дні тому +4

    Man ! Your old vid were never trash ! I learned so much from you 🙏🏽

  • @martintuma9974
    @martintuma9974 28 днів тому +91

    As a Czech native speaker, I understand Slovak more than 90%, Sorbian and written Polish about 50-60%, but Silesian is much harder to understand.

    • @LeoNicola_lnljix
      @LeoNicola_lnljix 28 днів тому +10

      I'm a Russian native speaker and I decently understand both Czech and Slovak

    • @HeroManNick132
      @HeroManNick132 27 днів тому +3

      Czech to me sounds like harder version of Serbo-Croatian with more complicated sounds and longer vowels. Still somewhat similar to Bulgarian but in reality Czech and Bulgarian are the most distanced Slavic languages.
      However many Czechs go here on holidays and yeah most of you surprisingly don't understand even the basics.

    • @ahG7na4
      @ahG7na4 26 днів тому +1

      ​​​​​​​@@LeoNicola_lnljix you must have learned it somehow. Internet Russians would have you believe they understand all Slavics effortlessly, which must be some kind of weird tic.
      The reality is mutual intelligibility between Russian and Czech/Slovak for someone *with no prior exposure* is about ZERO (however, it must be said that for being so close to Czech, Slovak tends to be much more intelligible to the Russian ear when spoken than Czech, i.e. it's apparently not a transitive/linear thing)

    • @LeoNicola_lnljix
      @LeoNicola_lnljix 26 днів тому

      @@ahG7na4 I lived 3 months in Prague and I remember how easy and understandable the Czech language was. You can understand all the basic words you need. You can chat with people without switching to English. Ofc it's not Russian and I can express my thoughts in all details but the Czech language (and other Slavic languages) are far closer to Russian that English, French, Arabic, etc.

  • @IbnSaifi
    @IbnSaifi 28 днів тому +32

    Your pronunciation of Arabic is perfect. You've really been working on it!

  • @donnie1725
    @donnie1725 Місяць тому +20

    Super excited for this one!

  • @Eddiemambocotto
    @Eddiemambocotto 25 днів тому +46

    In college I minored in Arabic and in my last semester took Hebrew 101 I was so happy and shocked to see how similar these languages were , it reminded me of living in Brazil and studying Portuguese while being a native speaker of spanish . Languages are awesome and I absolutely love your videos they are always so informative and well constructed!

    • @proh4718
      @proh4718 20 днів тому +2

      Damn, so you know English, Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic and Hebrew. I only know Urdu, and English

    • @Science_Atrium
      @Science_Atrium 15 днів тому +1

      @@proh4718 Is Urdu your native language? I though people in Pakistan usually spoke Urdu as a second language

    • @proh4718
      @proh4718 15 днів тому +1

      @@Science_Atrium Urdu is the national tongue of Pakistan. we learn English as a second language and some regional/provincial languages are also taught in some schools (Sindhi, Punjabi etc)

    • @Science_Atrium
      @Science_Atrium 14 днів тому +1

      @@proh4718 Yes, I thought that provincial and regional languages were mostly spoken as first language, and Urdu as a national language. I've heard that only 8% of the population speaks Urdu as 1st language.

    • @proh4718
      @proh4718 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@Science_Atrium Right now, around 70 million people speak it as a first language. In Sindh/Punjab, people usually learn Punjabi/Sindhi first, as they learn it from their parents in their households. So you could say that Urdu is a second language, but when people are outside their homes, they mostly communicate in Urdu. Officially Urdu is taught as a first language in all schools, while punjabi/sindhi are not

  • @ilyas_elouchihi
    @ilyas_elouchihi 28 днів тому +192

    As an Arabic speaker, when I hear Israeli people talk I can catch a few words, which is fascinating to me

    • @behemoth1158
      @behemoth1158 28 днів тому +43

      same for me listening to arabic as a hebrew speaker!

    • @keksi6844
      @keksi6844 28 днів тому +23

      Modern Hebrew was created partially from Arabic.

    • @LeoNicola_lnljix
      @LeoNicola_lnljix 28 днів тому +20

      ​@@keksi6844Yes, that's mentioned at 1:39

    • @tartarus1322
      @tartarus1322 28 днів тому +32

      @@keksi6844 yes he mentions that at 1:39 and specifies that modern hebrew has a minuscule Arabic influence for a few words. Most of the similarities come from their shared Semitic origins he said. So not really partially. It has more English words than Arabic words lmao.

    • @chickensalad3535
      @chickensalad3535 28 днів тому +6

      @@keksi6844Very barely.

  • @aharonha
    @aharonha 25 днів тому +11

    As a Hebrew speaker with less than a year learning Arabic at school, I can watch a video with Arabic talking and Hebrew subtitles and can spot some words that are cognates or has a similar ancient Hebrew cognate.
    For example in Arabic مدرسة madrase, you mentioned in this video is similar to בית מדרש, Beit Midrash, which is actually a school for religious learning.

  • @rifqymaulanaazhar573
    @rifqymaulanaazhar573 28 днів тому +12

    Great video
    I hope for peace between Israel and Palestine 🇮🇱🤝🇵🇸

  • @SF2K01
    @SF2K01 23 дні тому +10

    Excellent video that correctly noted the historic roots of languages respective words and pronunciations. One I think you missed is that עבד in biblical hebrew also means to serve or worship just like the arabic cognate, and modern hebrew uses that understanding for religious contexts (e.g. עובדי עבודה זרה = servants of foreign worship).

    • @eritain
      @eritain 21 день тому

      And many other points where Biblical Hebrew is closer to Arabic than Modern Hebrew is. I kept noticing those in the section about differences.

  • @SionTJobbins
    @SionTJobbins 28 днів тому +6

    Toda! Shukran! Thanks for this, how about a follow up video with more from Eden and Mahmoud - I found that very interesting even though I don't speak Hebew or Arabic (though, visited both Israel and Egypt).

  • @Caution40404
    @Caution40404 28 днів тому +19

    Absolutely love this! Thank you for the beautiful content. I speak both Assyrian Neo-Aramaic and Arabic. I do know just a little bit of Hebrew. Hebrew also shares incredible similarities with my Assyrian dialect (Duhok, Iraq).
    Also, you were spot on regarding the original Hebrew alphabet pronunciations. However, I’d like to point out one more thing: I firmly believe that the original Hebrew did not have a “V” sound at all. Beth was always “B.” I could conclude that by comparison with the two Semitic languages I speak. I’ve come across many similar words with the letter Beth in all languages with the exact same meaning but “B” is pronounced “V” in Hebrew while in Assyrian it sometimes shifts into “W/U” which is not in the original pronunciation either. These changes likely happened over time to make speech easier/smoother.
    For example, the word “Babel” contains two letters Beth in both Hebrew and Assyrian. In Hebrew it’s pronounced Bavel while in Assyrian Bāwel. But if we go back to the original pronunciation, it’s Babel.
    Just for the reference, the Babylonian/Iraqi Jewish dialect of Hebrew does follow the exact model you demonstrated in the video plus no “V” sound.
    Cheers and thank you!

    • @aji_jacobson
      @aji_jacobson 28 днів тому +3

      In fairness, the best evidence that Proto-Semitic never had v is that it doesn't show up anywhere else but Hebrew, but Hebrew has almost certainly had it (or the similar /β/) since its pre-biblical development. The development of the six dual consonants is related to (though I'm not sure which came first actually) the Hebrew equivalent to the Arabic "Shadda" called the "Dagesh", though its not maintained in modern Hebrew outside religious text. For speakers of biblical hebrew, they actually would've considered each pair as a single sound, with the fricative being the typical pronounciation, and the plosive the doubled, but a single sound nonetheless. Later did the split become more than just grammatical

    • @selezian
      @selezian 24 дні тому

      ​@@aji_jacobson I'm not a specialist, but from what I know dagesh pretty much exists in modern Hebrew and b/v, k/kh, p/f still depend on it.

    • @aji_jacobson
      @aji_jacobson 24 дні тому

      @@selezian Dagesh kal (light) still exists to differentiate those sounds, dagesh hazak (strong) used to apply to basically all the consonants and represented a doubling of the consonant. Different grammatical features that in writing used the same symbol.

  • @Osama.grefat
    @Osama.grefat 26 днів тому +6

    This video hits different when you understand Arabic, Hebrew and English! good job

  • @AduckButSpain
    @AduckButSpain Місяць тому +46

    Oh wow, I can't wait! The last one is indeed quite old quality-wise. I'm a Hebrew speaker and I've learned for years literature Arabic, but unfortunately, it's really difficult to find a good place to learn Levantine Arabic.

    • @TheBreadB
      @TheBreadB Місяць тому +2

      Aren’t there Arabs in Israel who speak Levantine Arabic?

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  Місяць тому +7

      The books everyone recommends for Palestinian Arabic are those by J. Elihay. There are lots of other courses that teach some kind of Levantine, but often Lebanese, Syrian, or Jordanian (which is close to Palestinian Arabic because the majority are Palestinian).

    • @AduckButSpain
      @AduckButSpain Місяць тому +2

      @@TheBreadB
      Obviously

    • @AduckButSpain
      @AduckButSpain Місяць тому +5

      @@Langfocus
      No offense Paul, but for the vast majority of people learning a language from books, especially by themselves it's incredibly hard. Particularly for adults.

    • @NilfgardianNationalist
      @NilfgardianNationalist Місяць тому +6

      ​@TheBreadB there are a lot of Arabs. Not everyone feels comfortable talking to them after... recent events.

  • @achmedaan
    @achmedaan 28 днів тому +11

    I really liked how you included the parts of the native speakers guessing the meaning of some simple sentences! I was also wondering why you decided to do the example pronunciations yourself in this video, since you usually have native speakers do them?

    • @twasco
      @twasco 28 днів тому +1

      I think because he learned both languages while studying in Israel, so he decided that his command over both languages was sufficient to do the voiceovers himself

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  27 днів тому +6

      Thanks!
      Well, my answer has two parts: (1) For languages I have some history of speaking or at least studying (as opposed to just researching for a video), I like to do the samples myself. But (2) I didn't do that for a long time, because I felt like I had to make everything 100% perfect to please everyone. But I'm trying to drop my perfectionism and be willing to share work that has flaws in it. These days everyone thinks those native speakers' voices are AI, so the perfection doesn't even improve my reputation.

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому

      @@Langfocus Your accent in Hebrew is pretty damn good! I can't speak for the Arabic but you sounded good to me (a non-Arabic speaker) for those samples as well. Kol hakavod!

  • @jhzbdbs
    @jhzbdbs 28 днів тому +146

    "Madrasa" in Arabic is a cognate of the Hebrew word "Midrasha" (מדרשה), which also means "a place of learning"

    • @yuzan3607
      @yuzan3607 28 днів тому +13

      In some Arabic dialects we still use "Midrasa"

    • @BHHB336
      @BHHB336 28 днів тому +13

      Yes, but the Hebrew word is specifically for a religious place of learning (like to learn the Torah, Talmud, etc.)

    • @Amghannam
      @Amghannam 28 днів тому +5

      @@yuzan3607 Don't we basically use madrasa or midrasa in all dialects? Which dialect doesn't?

    • @allaab9385
      @allaab9385 28 днів тому +3

      @@Amghannam some of Maghreb region dialects using ècole instead of madrasa

    • @Amghannam
      @Amghannam 28 днів тому +9

      @@allaab9385 That's French, not Arabic, xD

  • @smappositivedance
    @smappositivedance 19 днів тому +3

    So interesting! As a native Arabic speaker I always felt the similarities between the 2 languages. The approach of asking native speakers to guess the meaning made the video much more interesting and alive. Thank you!

  • @BaraIsrael
    @BaraIsrael 18 днів тому +5

    Beautiful video that connects us together! ❤My family is Libyan Jewish and pronounces things the Arabic way

  • @dubalrimaal
    @dubalrimaal 28 днів тому +69

    As an Arabic and Aramaic speaker, I can understand a fair bit of Hebrew when it’s in isolation. Short sentences, words, etc. The numbers are also almost identical. Like you pointed out at the end of the video, the biggest barrier to understanding more is that the European-influenced pronunciation style of Hebrew is the dominant one, so letters like ayn, Ha, qof, Ta, and so on are not pronounced by most Israelis with their original Semitic sounds. When I’ve heard Mizrahi Jews speak, it’s much clearer.
    Also, where Hebrew and Arabic words have different roots sometimes, usually the Hebrew word is using an Aramaic root that I know.
    Paul, you may find it interesting that the root KTB/كتب is actually an Aramaic borrowing into Arabic. The root SFR was the original Arabic root dealing with writing, like it is in Hebrew today. That’s why the very old word for book in Arabic uses that root.

    • @Nashmi-JO
      @Nashmi-JO 27 днів тому +3

      Can you give me a source that KTB is derived from aramaic and the arabic was SFR

    • @jacob_and_william
      @jacob_and_william 27 днів тому

      don't the most commonly spoken aramaic dialects today have a phonology influenced by greek?

    • @AvgBlue
      @AvgBlue 27 днів тому +7

      After or during the time of the First Temple, Aramaic became widely used by Jewish people of the time. Many Jewish religious texts are written in Aramaic, so it’s likely that Hebrew borrowed from Aramaic as well. Aramaic was essentially the international language of the region.

    • @victorchisholm627
      @victorchisholm627 27 днів тому +4

      Ketubah is the word for a Jewish wedding contract, and it is (usually) written in Aramaic.

    • @dubalrimaal
      @dubalrimaal 27 днів тому +1

      @@Nashmi-JOYes, Dr. Mahmoud al Jallad has written on this and it has appeared in at least one lecture. I’m unsure of the exact one, but will try to find for you.

  • @smorcrux426
    @smorcrux426 26 днів тому +12

    19:32 this isn't totally true. In fact the standard modern Hebrew accent is the sephardi one, which eliezer Ben Yehuda mainly based on the accent of algerian jews, as he spent a lot of time there. The traditional ashkenazi accent has way more radical sound shifts, and it could be difficult for a standard Hebrew speaker to even understand an ashkenazi Hebrew speaker. Some ultra orthodox people still speak that way. It is true though that ashkenazi jews softened the sephardi accent when learning it, but I'm not sure how much algerian jews were pronouncing those letters before speaking Hebrew daily either. Notably yemenite jews (mainly due to racism early in Israel's history) are a bit more insular than the rest of Israeli jews and they still pray with a very traditional and unintelligible accent

  • @gerfaut9700
    @gerfaut9700 26 днів тому +7

    Great video. A little comment though. Modern hebrew pronunciation tried to follow traditional sephardic pronunciations (the traditional pronunciation used by spanish jewish communities) but really ended up creating a simplified pronunciation system that is neither ashkenazi nor sephardic nor iranian, etc.
    The second thing is that although modern hebrew was "recreated" in the sense that it was used to become the language of a state and secular affairs, it was still very much a living language. A lot of rabbinical works pertaining to daily life (how to do this and that during this festival, how to kill an animal to make it kosher, etc.) was written in Hebrew in order to be understood by laypeople in different communities before anyone had thought about creating a "modern hebrew".

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  25 днів тому +1

      “Living language” normally refers to a language that has an ongoing community of native speakers that use it in all areas of life. In the case of Hebrew, it was used for literature and some written communication, but wasn’t spoken as a native language by anyone. And if anyone used it as a spoken lingua franca, it was in limits areas of life. So it’s referred to as a “dead language”, but not an “extinct” language. (An extinct language is no longer used for any purpose).
      That’s just terminology though. I know you’re right that it was continuously used in writing.

  • @Alaedious
    @Alaedious 28 днів тому +3

    Updates are great, but your earlier videos were awesome, too! 🎉😊❤

  • @Honest_Question
    @Honest_Question 28 днів тому +36

    So the main two shifts that happened were:
    1- The ancient shift: When the two languages split away from central semetic (Aprox. 5000-7000 years ago).
    2- The modern shift: When Europeans Jews learned Hebrew, bringing the European pronunciation from their native languages (Aprox. 80-200 years ago).

    • @user-pj3ic6qw2p
      @user-pj3ic6qw2p 28 днів тому +20

      Modern Hebrew pronunciation was heavily influenced by Sephardic liturgy pronunciation from Northern Africa as well

    • @PrimeConnoisseur
      @PrimeConnoisseur 28 днів тому +9

      European Jews knew hebrew ever since entering diaspora (for literature, religion and learning). But if you mean learning to speak the newly created spoken version i get what you mean.

    • @tartarus1322
      @tartarus1322 28 днів тому +12

      Modern Hebrew pronunciation comes from Sephardic NOT Ashkenazi (Jews who lived in Europe). Ashkenazi pronunciation is super super different. There exist more vowels and sounds in Ashkenazi pronunciation; it preserved more of the original pronunciation but suffered from vowel shifts (like English).

    • @Honest_Question
      @Honest_Question 28 днів тому +1

      @@PrimeConnoisseur Those who knew it only knew it as a literary language (as I implied in my original comment), so it's only natural that when they learn a different spoken language, they bring the pronunciation of their mother tongues (which I believe Paul himself made clear in the video).

    • @Honest_Question
      @Honest_Question 28 днів тому +3

      @@tartarus1322 It's well known that the Ashkenazi pronunciation had the most influence, so if you're gonna make such a drastically different claim, you're gonna have to provide sufficient evidence.

  • @MooImABunny
    @MooImABunny 28 днів тому +28

    5:55 Eden missed the word התעמלות hit3amlut, which is pretty common, meaning (sport) exercise, which would've helped him
    It is interesting that in Hebrew the root 3ml shifted to more physical work, while in Arabic the root 3bd shifted to a more spiritual meaning of work.
    To any fans of Community, Abed has the 3ayn consonant, and means worshipper.
    Also you might've heard of people named 3abdallah, meaning a worshipper of Allah

    • @Syiepherze
      @Syiepherze 28 днів тому +2

      Yes, in Arabic the literal meaning of 'abd is slave/servant, and it can be used figuratively to refer to a worshipper. For example the name Abdullah you mentioned more specifically means "slave/servant of God"
      There is the word 'ibadah which is often translated as "worship" but it more specifically refers to one's servitude (to god), like religious duties and acts of devotion

    • @Dor150
      @Dor150 28 днів тому +5

      @@Syiepherze in Hebrew "3eved" means slave as well but not always in a religious sense. The name Ovadia in Hebrew and Abdallah in Arabic have the same meaning actually.

    • @imtih.9439
      @imtih.9439 24 дні тому +2

      ⁠​⁠@@Dor150we have the name Obaida in Arabic which means servant of God as well. I think that’s even closer to Ovadia in Hebrew

  • @donnie1725
    @donnie1725 27 днів тому +2

    Fantastic! Especially loved the imput of the fluent speakers on this one!

  • @yakov95000
    @yakov95000 28 днів тому +4

    Old time subscriber(I still remember the old formats)and native Hebrew speaker,I learned allot today thank you.

  • @XVYQ_EY
    @XVYQ_EY 28 днів тому +96

    They're native Hebrew & Palestinian but threir english is perfect.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +88

      Yeah, Eden lives in Canada now, and Mahmoud has been learning English since he was a kid and now studies in the US.

    • @toqa6735
      @toqa6735 27 днів тому +4

      @@Langfocusnow i feel great to speak it fluently alone in Iraq (no passport lol)

    • @AysarAburrub
      @AysarAburrub 27 днів тому +11

      it's not that hard to imagine, Palestinians and Israelis are both very well educated people and English is taught in schools from kindergarten. Im Palestinian and my English was near native level around the time I entered college. Now not everyone around here can or do reach this level, but it's very doable if you put in some extra personal effort.

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому +2

      Many people in Israel and Palestine speak excellent English.

  • @omrivol
    @omrivol 28 днів тому +139

    Great video!
    As a native Hebrew speaker, I’d like to share an observation regarding the Arabic word 'l-madrasa' (school), which appears in 12:40. It closely resembles the Hebrew term 'Beit Midrash' (בית מדרש), which refers to a Torah study hall. This is essentially a type of religious school, or at least an institution where students primarily study religious subjects. Also, the word Arabic word "sayyara" (car), which appears in 20:25, sounds like the Hebrew verb "le-sayer" (לסייר), which means to wander around or to tour, and this is a thing people do using cars🙃
    As for the question at the end of the video, as a native Hebrew speaker, I don’t understand it at all. However, when I listen to Arabic, I can pick out some words that sound similar to Hebrew, though that doesn’t always help in grasping the overall context

    • @aag3752
      @aag3752 28 днів тому +17

      There are no native Hebrew speakers. Real Hebrew di ed centuries ago, you speak an Arabized Yiddish.

    • @zeytelaloi
      @zeytelaloi 28 днів тому +11

      As a Tigrinya speaker I also see a lot of similarities. We say makina for car (from Italian, machine), but to drive it we say sewar/zewar. Ane makina zewire. (I car drove).

    • @gonduras
      @gonduras 28 днів тому +1

      @@aag3752 here we go. feisty idiot.

    • @laithalzoubi54
      @laithalzoubi54 28 днів тому +8

      sayyara in arabic came from sara(سرى) if you are going to a place we say sara as a past and 'yasri' means walking. think the name came from the sorce sara.

    • @omrivol
      @omrivol 28 днів тому +23

      @@aag3752 Native modern Hebrew, OK? Happy?🤦‍♂

  • @erezCOOK
    @erezCOOK 28 днів тому +15

    6:03 In this example, In Hebrew we normally wouldn't say "ani avadti ha-yom." Normally we would not include the first word, which means I. This is because for the verb to work, the ending -ti refers to yourself

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +4

      I know it’s not required, but I often hear people using the subject pronoun before a past tense verb.

    • @erezCOOK
      @erezCOOK 28 днів тому

      @@Langfocus Oh ok! Anyways thank you for showcasing these two amazing languages

  • @romero522
    @romero522 27 днів тому +15

    I wish you added the Canaanite shift. When A turned into O in Canaanite languages
    Arabic - Aramaic - hebrew
    Salam - Shlama - Shalom
    La - La - Lo
    Tayeb - tava - tov
    Kahin (كاهن) -Cahana - Cohen
    Banat (بنات) - Bnata - Banot
    Miat (مئات) - me'ot
    Malikat (ملكات) - malkot
    Lisan -Lishana - Lashon
    Ras - Resha - Rosh
    Kas (كاس) -Kasa - Kos
    Alam (علام) - Alma- Olam

    • @yoavlavi8368
      @yoavlavi8368 27 днів тому +1

      @@romero522 Wouldn't Cahana be like הכהן?

    • @romero522
      @romero522 27 днів тому

      @@yoavlavi8368 Cahana is in Aramaic
      Cohen in Hebrew

    • @yoavlavi8368
      @yoavlavi8368 27 днів тому

      @@romero522 Yes, but the a suffix in Aramaic is the same as the ha-something prefix in Hebrew, it's the same as "the" in English (which is to say unless the a is a part of the word in Aramaic it's likely "the cohen" rather than "cohen")

    • @romero522
      @romero522 27 днів тому

      @@yoavlavi8368 yes, although i never saw it without the suffix. Aramaic speakers were more or less in love with their "the"

  • @xiaoyangzhou9538
    @xiaoyangzhou9538 27 днів тому +1

    it's exciting to hear you call your old videos trash, because that means I have something new to learn from your new ones

  • @HaftomHadush-sv4lw
    @HaftomHadush-sv4lw 27 днів тому +3

    תודה רבה Teacher! Shukrennnnn

  • @Someone-ym1ny
    @Someone-ym1ny 28 днів тому +10

    Gosh I never get tired of listening about the neat features of Semitic languages! Would be really interesting to take a look at Maltese vs Hebrew tbh, two super European-influenced semitic languages from super divergent branches and born of different circumstances! Not quite sure how different Maltese is from Arabic to warrant it, but could be fun haha

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому +1

      Same! I am fascinated by Maltese, it's the weirdest (or most unique) of the Semitic languages, I'd love to see it compared with Arabic or Hebrew

  • @chazlewis8114
    @chazlewis8114 28 днів тому +165

    It's almost like these languages are two ancient brothers who don't get along anymore.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 28 днів тому +27

      Cain and Abel

    • @landsgevaer
      @landsgevaer 28 днів тому +11

      Tower of Babel.
      (I am not even religious... 🙂)

    • @ساميهبلح
      @ساميهبلح 28 днів тому +23

      Arabs and Israelis are actually cousins of course not all the Arabs but all the Adnanis are because most of the original Israelis are children of Jacob son of Issac son of Ibrahim and the Adnanis Arabs are children of Adnan son of Ishmael son of Ibrahim and both children lived in the same Area and contacted eachother .

    • @NShll-sd9yw
      @NShll-sd9yw 28 днів тому +28

      @@ساميهبلح israelis ≠ israelites

    • @inamurrahmansir9471
      @inamurrahmansir9471 28 днів тому

      @ساميهبلح But Palestinians are blend of both Arabs and Cannanites christians who embraced Islam . Cannanite Christians were jews who became Christians. Means today's Palestinians are Jews in terms of race

  • @evilleader1991
    @evilleader1991 25 днів тому +5

    I like your channel, in a world with increasing tensions we can learn about similarities between us than differences.
    I wish you success brother 👍😎

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому

      I love to see this sentiment from an Evil Leader ;)

  • @aji_jacobson
    @aji_jacobson 28 днів тому +8

    I speak decent Hebrew as a third language and have been trying to pick up Arabic lately and absolutely loved this video! I have to say, comparing cognates (and especially true cognate-false friends) has been one of my favourite parts, so I'm thrilled that I'm coming away with some new ones.
    טעם/طعم - I wasn't familiar with طعم/طعام, but I assume they're also related to مطعم?
    צדיק/صديق - I knew both of these though I never would've made the connection that they might be cognate, makes me wonder what the original sense of the root was.

    • @dubalrimaal
      @dubalrimaal 25 днів тому +1

      Yes, مطعم is another noun configuration of that root. In Arabic, having a م in the first position often turns the noun into being a place or person depending on the vowels. Compare KTB with مكتب etc. From my very limited understanding of Hebrew, that seems to be the case as well in that language.

  • @Macolicious88
    @Macolicious88 15 днів тому

    We are lucky to have this channel. Great insight, information to a particular and unique group of people sharing our love of language.
    Great video. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication!

  • @yasmin7903
    @yasmin7903 23 дні тому +10

    In some dialects of Yemeni arabic we sometimes say خبير khabeer to mean friend or mate, which is similar to the hebrew word for friend.

    • @PrimetimeX
      @PrimetimeX 12 днів тому +2

      Its very likely that most Yemenite people are Jewish or of Jewish descent due to the ancient presence of Jews in Yemen before Islam.

    • @ahmedabdullah8327
      @ahmedabdullah8327 День тому +1

      Yes indeed

  • @believeinpeace
    @believeinpeace 18 днів тому

    Please don't belittle your old videos, I think they are educational and great! This one was excellent also, thank you so much!

  • @ehabibrahim5209
    @ehabibrahim5209 28 днів тому +6

    18:03 in Arabic there is a word that also similar (rih) means strong wind

  • @allaab9385
    @allaab9385 28 днів тому +76

    As an Arabic speaker, I say if someone speaks Arabic had some introduction to Hebrew, especially in terms of phonology, they will understand easily the topic of Hebrew conversation with some focusing.

    • @2.2.4.4
      @2.2.4.4 28 днів тому +2

      Agree

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper 28 днів тому +9

      At universities in France we had many Arabs take introductory courses into Hebrew because they major in Arabic studies and needed to take a second Middle Eastern language. It's nice and is we did more things like this we would be closer to leave.

    • @talfriedman1265
      @talfriedman1265 28 днів тому +3

      as an hebrew speaker i know someone who can't understand a single word in hebrew and he speaks only arabic but we understand each other just fine since both are similar

  • @ProudMesopotamianGirl
    @ProudMesopotamianGirl 24 дні тому +10

    I'm a native Arabic speaker, and I've been learning Hebrew for a few months. Before I started, I could only understand a few words from speeches. But after learning the letters and how some changed pronunciation, I began to spot more words when I read. For example, I learned that the unfamiliar-sounding "ġatov" means "raṭib," which means wet. I'm sure Arabic and Hebrew speakers would recognize even more words if they didn't change pronunciation.

    • @dlvivlviv
      @dlvivlviv 21 день тому +2

      "ratuv" is wet (as far as I remember). Very close to "ratib"
      Interesting

    • @ProudMesopotamianGirl
      @ProudMesopotamianGirl 21 день тому +1

      @@dlvivlviv Yep, רטוב. 👌🏻 (I used ġ just to emphasize the French-style "r" sound, just to show how much it changed the word's pronunciation.)

    • @mujemoabraham6522
      @mujemoabraham6522 19 днів тому +1

      @@ProudMesopotamianGirl They changed three letters sound 1- R to GH - 2- TT to T - 3- B to V so the word RATTUB became GHATUV ( Westernized )

    • @ProudMesopotamianGirl
      @ProudMesopotamianGirl 19 днів тому

      @@mujemoabraham6522 Exactly, 💯💯 I used ġ to symbolize the sound gh 🙂‍↕️

    • @eelmohamed
      @eelmohamed 19 днів тому

      @@ProudMesopotamianGirl I couldn't relate the word ratib to wet in Arabic until someone else wrote it as rutub. It would have been clearer if we use the Arabic alphabet and write رطب like people do with Hebrew words. Thanks

  • @aaronmikeborda3777
    @aaronmikeborda3777 27 днів тому +1

    I think this was a very important video to make, showing how we have many more similarities than we do differences when we get down to it.
    Also I'm glad you're redoing your old videos, Paul! I'm personally gonna be keeping an eye out for if you redo Tagalog, maybe in the context of Chinese loans or sumn to also connect it to current events, Idk
    I bet the wife and kid keep you pretty busy but it's always nice to see you post, hoping we'll get another soon!

  • @manuroitman
    @manuroitman 27 днів тому +4

    Hey your Hebrew is much improved!

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  27 днів тому

      I think it used to be much better, actually.

  • @Noor-fd8yk
    @Noor-fd8yk 27 днів тому +1

    thank you for re-doing this one! i have been working on my arabic and hebrew lately, for uhh no reason in particular :v, so i really enjoyed this one!

  • @todesque
    @todesque Місяць тому +3

    Great topic! Looking forward to this video! (I know Hebrew pretty well and have been tempted to learn Arabic.)

  • @ThePeterispas
    @ThePeterispas 27 днів тому +1

    Great comparison as usually! I think the timing is great for the topic as well.

  • @rhizoidx
    @rhizoidx 28 днів тому +5

    What a timing for this video, considering... Anyhow, thank you for the upload, and the first version in 2015 was ABSOLUTELY NOT trash. 🙂

  • @aarongreenway7002
    @aarongreenway7002 28 днів тому +2

    I was just thinking about this! Wow! Great Timing!

  • @Damascene-Syria
    @Damascene-Syria 27 днів тому +6

    9:28 from Damascus, I say it exactly like that em.
    10:27 if it’s something to do with “righteous”, maybe it’s actually from the word sadeq, meaning truthful (person)?
    I love the video

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому +1

      Yes, "tzadik" means a righteous person, someone who is very learned in religious matters, very ethical in their behaviour. Certain great rabbis or Talmudic sages are considered tzadikim, for example. It's related to the word tzedaka (tsedaqa), which means charity, money you give to the poor or to other good causes as required by Jewish law.

  • @frb1808
    @frb1808 28 днів тому +1

    OOOOHHHH
    I hope you reboot the Tagalog video, too!

  • @modmaker7617
    @modmaker7617 Місяць тому +93

    Remember, when this Canadian made a video in Japanese teaching Arabic to a Japanese-speaking audience like it was a class in a Japanese school?
    That was hilarious.

  • @MasiukA
    @MasiukA 28 днів тому +18

    Ive heard the difference is something like English to German. They are obviously related but not mutually intelligible beyond a few words.

    • @ilaibavati6941
      @ilaibavati6941 26 днів тому +3

      This is exactly the analogy I like to use

  • @netarozenberg9371
    @netarozenberg9371 28 днів тому +132

    as a hebrew speaker, we can occasionally understand few words in a row when arabic speaker are being interviewed on media. But on daily basis, both languages aren't mutually inteligible

    • @tomrogue13
      @tomrogue13 28 днів тому +22

      I'm only part way thru the video but it seems like English and the other germanic languages. Can't understand them, but once you point out the similarities, it's easier to understand

    • @Im_Sanenough
      @Im_Sanenough 28 днів тому +16

      Mostly because modern Hebrew has changed the way consonants were spoken. A lot of the consonants before the reconstruction of Hebrew sound much like arabic consonants.

    • @netarozenberg9371
      @netarozenberg9371 28 днів тому +2

      @@tomrogue13 yes, I think this is a great exmaple to compare

    • @mahmoudalawneh8808
      @mahmoudalawneh8808 28 днів тому +14

      @@Im_SanenoughI don’t think that’s the only reason. I’ve listened to Mizrahi Hebrew (pharyngeals and all) and the non-intelligibility is the same (Derech Hashalom is an example).

    • @Im_Sanenough
      @Im_Sanenough 28 днів тому +1

      @mahmoudalawneh8808 i made the comment based on the video showing how old consonants forms resonate with arabic very well. does Mizrahi preserve the old consonants considering they come from an Arab background or do they speak the same way with Ashkenazis ?

  • @SB-to5lx
    @SB-to5lx 28 днів тому +22

    Thank you for this video. It is more important than ever for people, especially Israelis/Jews and Arabs/Palestinians, to learn each other's languages and understand their own better.

  • @mznxbcv12345
    @mznxbcv12345 4 дні тому +3

    The similarity between "Salam" and "shalom" isn't because they are driven from the same root, it is because hebrew lost the distinction between س 's' and ش 'sh', leaving only the 'sh' sound, similar to how distinction between ح 'h' and خ 'kh' was lost leaving only 'kh'. It is infact the same word.

    • @dingdongism
      @dingdongism Годину тому

      You just described how divergence occurs between two languages that share the same root. But for some reason you want to claim that this clear relationship isn't the case, even as you document that it is the case. Puzzling.

  • @TonyNaber
    @TonyNaber 10 днів тому

    The early videos weren't trash at all, I remember the first video on this and as an arabic speaker I was impressed. That's how I discovered this channel (also your arabic vs Maltese/Portuguese/Spanish videos)

  • @littlewesternwoman
    @littlewesternwoman 28 днів тому +5

    Thank you Paul - a masterful job as always! My native language is English, I've learned Hebrew to mother-tongue-level fluency, and I've studied both Modern Standard Arabic and colloquial Palestinian Arabic - the Jerusalem dialect. As you probably know, there are variations in vocabulary and pronunciation in the colloquial dialects within Palestine and Israel - such that you can tell where someone is from by their accent and word choice. Since Arabic is my third language and I'm far from fluent (alas), I find it more difficult to understand some native Palestinian speakers than others, depending on where they're from - but at the same time can usually get the gist of what someone from Lebanon or Jordan is saying. Lastly, MSA is indeed much more difficult to learn than Hebrew. This is a complicated topic for sure, but fascinating. Thank you again for your superb video.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  27 днів тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you liked it! What materials (if any) did you use for the Jerusalem dialect?

    • @littlewesternwoman
      @littlewesternwoman 27 днів тому

      @@Langfocus wow...I apologize that my answer may be a bit long, because I've studied eclectically and over a protracted period. I studied MSA at Hebrew University in Jerusaelm, and then after a long gap at Tel Aviv University - and used the materials provided by those institutions, which were based in Hebrew (when I first started learning MSA I was still learning Hebrew, which was a bit nuts, but definitely helped my understanding of both languages' grammar). In between, I studied the colloquial Palestinian with a variety of private teachers, two of them Palestinian-Israelis and one Jewish Israeli, and all of them excellent teachers who used their own self-produced materials and their creativity. On my own I found a book of short stories written in colloquial Levantine dialect, "الحكواتي", from دار فضاءات للنشر والتوزيع - الاردن. Most of the material was quite difficult for me, but it enabled me to learn colloquial Arabic without forfeiting my literacy (for some reason colloquial Arabic is taught through transliteration, which I find unhelpful). I'm terrible at learning online - I like to work with a real person - and so my studies have been sporadic, depending on various intrusions of "real life". I apologize for not being so helpful. I would add, regarding the revival of the Hebrew language, that it was used continuously - primarily liturgically but not only. Newspaparrs and poetry were being published in Hebrew in Europe even before Elizer Ben Yehuda's dedicated revival., and of course there has always been a continuous Jewish presence in what is now Israel - however small, and whatever additional languages (Yiddish, Ladino) those people used. Regarding modern-Hebrew pronunciation, it's actually the Sephardic pronunciation of the historic land of Israel, and not akin to the liturgical Hebrew of European Jews. Regarding the ability of modern-Hebrew speakers to understand the Bible: I think it is greater than that of the English speaker trying to understand Shakespeare, as the primary differences are grammatical and not lexical. Moreover, just as the King James Version of the Bible informs English speech and literature, so the Hebrew Bible informs the everyday speech, idioms, pop songs and of course the literature of Israeli Hebrew speakers. All things i continued thinking about after watching your wonderful video! Please forgive my waxing long. I value and enjoy your work so much ❤️

  • @ilayohana3150
    @ilayohana3150 28 днів тому +3

    Thanks Paul! Love your channel.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +2

      Thanks! I'm glad you like it.

  • @ahmedalrays
    @ahmedalrays 25 днів тому +7

    As a Middle Eastern Arabic speaker, I noticed that Moroccan Arabic also uses archaic, ancient Arabic words. It sounds very strange to me. Nice video, by the way. I wish one day Hebrews and Arabs could live together in peace.

    • @אלוןשיינפלד
      @אלוןשיינפלד 18 днів тому

      We are cousins, and that means we are family. And families sometimes bicker, but as you grow older you learn to appreciate the family you have. I hope we can all mature one day, and not let the question of "who started it" or "who was here first", "who deserves it more" or "i am real and you are fake" bother us anymore

    • @PrimeConnoisseur
      @PrimeConnoisseur 18 днів тому

      @@ahmedalrays as do i, we’re cultural, religious, and genetic cousins.

  • @Hill-Secret
    @Hill-Secret 3 дні тому +1

    I know Hebrew quite well and am currently learning Arabic. Knowing Hebrew has been a huge advantage in learning Arabic-my progress is much faster than I expected due to the similar language structures and the many shared roots between the two languages.

  • @user-sh3cf7kd6e
    @user-sh3cf7kd6e 28 днів тому +32

    I must say, Eden (3eden) did not get words that are most Hebrew speakers would understand.
    Most Hebrew speakers know some basic Arabic words, even if they are not related to the Hebrew words.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +52

      He's had particularly little exposure to Arabic, which I thought would be good for looking at the raw similarities. (He grew up speaking Hebrew at home, but abroad, except for a few years).

    • @idraote
      @idraote 28 днів тому +31

      When comparing two languages it is best to use speakers who have never come in contact with the other language.
      For example, Paul couldn't use my input in a video about French and Italian because I studied French in school and I understand much more than the average Italian.

  • @nawarelsabaa
    @nawarelsabaa 23 дні тому +1

    Amazing work, as usual, Paul!
    Just one note:
    21:19 The word it should be "Ghaliatan" غاليةً in the accusative case as the nominal sentence is preceded by "Kanat" كانت, which is فعل ماض ناقص (Not sure how to translate that into English).

  • @listoed
    @listoed 26 днів тому +7

    In Hebrew we also use
    הלך לעולמו
    In the sense of dying and it literally means he went to his world

  • @wailingalen
    @wailingalen 26 днів тому

    Your old videos were not trash!! I binge watched a lot of them. Being a language nerd (Vietnamese 🇺🇸 American) your videos helped scratch that itch. Glad to see you are back. Take care from Sunny florida

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  26 днів тому

      Thanks, man! 🙏🏻 I liked them at the time too. It’s just a little embarrassing to look back at old videos, since my presentation and production skills have improved a lot.

  • @ElisaAvigayil
    @ElisaAvigayil 28 днів тому +14

    Fairly fluent in Hebrew. Lived in Amman for a year. I was able to get by remembering that G = J / B = V / Sh = S, and I used simple sentences at the suk (shuk) to go shopping and to give directions to taxi drivers (before GPS or Google Translate existed). I can understand the basic gist of conversations in Palestinian Arabic but get the details wrong. I also worked alongside mostly Palestinian Arabs in Jerusalem for 4 years and would listen to their conversations - I knew if they were talking about food, or their families, or a car accident, or travel, or work, or paying a bill over the phone, but I'd get the details wrong. Palestinians and Arabs in Israel use a lot of loan words in Hebrew because it's much easier than using those terms in Arabic (like mazgan for air conditioning or Misrad HaPanim for Ministry of the Interior or Kupat Cholim for Health Insurance company). Then there are words in Arabic that are so ingrained into Israeli culture, like telling someone "sahktein" before they eat (Arabic for bon appetite) or "ahlan" as a greeting or "sababa" for ok.

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 27 днів тому +2

      Useless trivia… Kupat Holim is an interesting word combination which literally means a “cash register of sick people”. This odd combination of words is a direct translation of the German word Krankenkasse. This is because the Israeli health insurance companies (which predate the establishment of the state) were modeled after the health insurance companies in Germany (which in both countries began as mutual-aid societies).

    • @MsSmailit
      @MsSmailit 25 днів тому +1

      Just a little correction- Israeli Hebrew speakers do use 'sahtein' from time to time, but not as bon appetite to someone who is eating

    • @_oaktree_
      @_oaktree_ 18 днів тому

      @@MaxPower-11 So what? Why is it "useless"? It's useless to know things?

  • @pichusdarkside
    @pichusdarkside 16 днів тому

    Oh! I used to watch your old videos back then! I still think they were one of the best ones even if it has been a few years! Keep it up 😄

  • @xandudicanda6303
    @xandudicanda6303 28 днів тому +6

    To answer your second question:
    I am fluent in Portuguese and French. I don’t understand spoken Romanian. But when I see it written, I can figure out when a word starts and where it ends and, suddenly, things become clear. Oh, this word looks like French that! Oh, this word looks like Italian that! Oh, this word looks like Latin that!
    Very interesting video, btw!

    • @xandudicanda6303
      @xandudicanda6303 28 днів тому

      And since we are talking about it, I am also a native speaker of Cape Verdean Creole. While Guinea-Bissau Creole is obviously understandable, I was surprised to see that Papiamento is slightly understandable. The Gulf of Guinea Creoles are not.

  • @NiranAlHaneen
    @NiranAlHaneen 9 днів тому +1

    Amazing how beautiful is your explanation
    I speak both languages and still enjoyed it

  • @frasenp8411
    @frasenp8411 28 днів тому +13

    So in the sentence at 21:30 it is supposed to be غاليةً ghaaliyatAN because of the verb كان (kaana) and her sisters that work this way making it منصوب or accusative.
    Also in the numbers at 14:25 Arabic also uses the masculine numbers for counting feminine words and feminine numbers for counting masculine words. This is the case too in many dialects but I think some dialects simplify the system.

    • @allaab9385
      @allaab9385 28 днів тому +2

      wow, we have a great إعراب enthusiast here, when I watched it I felt something unnatural there in the sentence but totally didn't put my hand on it, great job my friend

    • @frasenp8411
      @frasenp8411 28 днів тому

      @@allaab9385 Well I wouldn't say that that was very advanced إعراب just basics 😆🫡 If you want a real pro you should watch فرائد لغوية and his playlist شرح ألفية ابن مالك he is very نحو pro! I also watched some lectures from المقررات المفتوحة and I liked محمد العمري's teaching 👀

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  27 днів тому +1

      Yes, you're right. I actually went back and forth between AN and UN, and settled on the wrong one.

  • @CookieFonster
    @CookieFonster 27 днів тому +2

    This is such a great deep dive into Hebrew and Arabic! They seem to be similar enough that knowing one will give you an advantage in learning the other, but nowhere near mutually intelligible. To answer the ending question: I grew up speaking English and German from an American father and German mother, and Dutch is a language closely related to both of them. But when I hear spoken Dutch, there are so many differences that I can seldom understand a word. At least I can pick out a pretty good amount of words when I encounter written Dutch.

  • @kobikaicalev175
    @kobikaicalev175 28 днів тому +7

    Hebrew speaker here, learnt Arabic and Tigrinya, most common vocabulary is common for all three, sometimes Tigrinya feels closer than Arabic, especially in pronunciation and some vocabulary, Tigrinya also switches k to x, note that the older Emphatic sounds in Hebrew are reconstructed as Ejectives as in Tigrinya as well. Tigrinya grammar is further away, though the classical form Ge'ez has a more Hebrew like structure.

    • @ElisaAvigayil
      @ElisaAvigayil 28 днів тому +1

      I worked in Eritrea for several weeks and was able to pick up a few phrases immediately because of the influence of Arabic and Italian (and I speak Hebrew and Spanish). Was interesting how easy some phrases were to learn.

  • @HaiderAlZubaidi
    @HaiderAlZubaidi 25 днів тому +2

    Love this episode ❤

  • @4hereyez
    @4hereyez 27 днів тому +8

    Hi Paul, Great video. I know this might sound out of place, but it isn't, and I know this, strictly speaking, is a language video, but with all that's going on and the devvastating warr that's still raging, with all the deaath and desstruction that can be felt not only in Middle East but also around the world, would've been fitting to close the video with a final note: May Salam, Shalom , Peace prevail soon, or one day, perhaps! 🙏

  • @bigmandrel
    @bigmandrel 12 днів тому

    What a beautifully insightful vid. This is the good stuff, really.

  • @MartinIbert
    @MartinIbert 28 днів тому +6

    I watched your first video on the subject, and it was absolutely not trash.

    • @Langfocus
      @Langfocus  28 днів тому +3

      Well, I meant in terms of video production and delivery, even though the content might have been good.

    • @MartinIbert
      @MartinIbert 27 днів тому +1

      @@Langfocus It definitely was. There are people (like myself) who look primarily at the content and will look beyond any imperfection in presentation. I would need to re-visit your old video to see if I find any imperfections, but I do remember I watched it and I liked the contents.

  • @SnakeEyes1241
    @SnakeEyes1241 27 днів тому +1

    this is a great video, very well researched of course. i do not speak arabic nor hebrew, but mutual understanding, even in the context of comparative linguistics, is key during these times.
    i would love to see you do an overview of Khmer!

  • @עופרקופלביץ-ג3ו
    @עופרקופלביץ-ג3ו 26 днів тому +3

    A lot of the changes in the pronounciation of hebrew are not due to the revival of hebrew but happened much before that.
    The letter het ח and ayin ע did got the ashkenazi pronounciation in modern hebrew (in most dialects), but almost all the other changes you mentioned existed by this stage in all hebrew speakers, including sepharadic jews in north africa and the middle east.