Star Wars FINALLY Reveals Why Moff Gideon Was TERRIFIED of Luke Skywalker
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I will agree that the one who single-handedly defeated both of the highest-ranking members of the Empire and was involved in the destruction of two Death Stars would have a formidable reputation amongst the surviving imperial officers.
Yeah and on the second Death Star, Luke literally managed to defeat Vader. Considering how almost everyone was scared shitless of Vader, the guy who defeated him would be even more fearsome. Plus the Dark Trooper droids were already quite powerful. Even seasoned Mandalorian warriors struggled against them and yet Luke just breezed through them let a hot knife through butter.
@@tryingtotryistrying Well, as the video said, they didn't see what happened inside the throne room. They just saw Luke come out with an injured Vader. Legends are often born from a small figment of truth that got exaggerated over time.
Luke was litteraly the boogie man incarnate
From the Empire's side, he's the Rebellion's Darth Vader
Technically Vader killed the Emperor with one hand. Literally cause the other was cut off
Ultimately, irrespective of whether Gideon knew who he was or not, he saw Luke wipe out the Dark Troopers without missing a step. That’s terrifying.
None of it is something "Star Wars FINALLY Reveals" tho...
@@mikek9297 Yes, very clickbait title.
Exactly, just unrelenting forwards momentum. Just like his dad😆
Considering how almost everyone was scared shitless of Vader, the guy who defeated him would be even more fearsome. Plus the Dark Trooper droids were already quite powerful. Even seasoned Mandalorian warriors struggled against them and yet Luke just breezed through them let a hot knife through butter.
It was more like a REALLY hot knife through metal
@@scotta547 One more point I want to add = Rogue Squadron which was the Rebel Alliance's most badass elite Fighter Squadron was founded by Luke Skywalker and he was first commander of the fabled Squadron.
@@scotta547 Not big on simile's?
@@willstikken5619 he doesn’t like to smile
"Even seasoned Mandalorian warriors struggled against them and yet Luke just breezed through them let a hot knife through butter." I never thought this was a fair argument and this was even the one thing that slightly broke my immersion. This is because Luke had a lightsaber, and Mando did not. It could even be argued that Mando and company did not even need saving. When I first saw the green lightsaber slicing through them "like a hot knife through butter," I thought, "well heck, you could just do that with the darksaber." I know Luke had the force and all, but with Mando's armor plus his friends firepower, Mando and company might have been able to fight through the darktroopers faster than Luke.
But it was still cool to bring Luke in like that lol
I can’t believe it’s taken me decades to consider the reputation and mythology of Luke Skywalker among the imperial survivors. This is spot-on.
"I'm a hallway killer, just like my father before me!"
So cool that luke is the boogeyman to imperial remnants just as how his dad is to the rebels
Until Ruin Johnson got ahold of him…
So there's that
Luke wasn't the Boogeyman he's the fucker you send to kill the Boogeyman
You mean a lightsaber in a smoke-filled hallway killer
@@Doomthinkingman That's a matter of perspective, he would indeed be the boogeyman to imperials
Ah yes. Because if a man who destroyed the first death star, supposedly killed Vader and the emperor, helped blow up the second death star and effectively toppled half the fucking empire in the process, I'd just brush it off. After all, there's no need to be afraid of (according to empirial propaganda) a vengeful member of a nearly extinct race of super wizards whose kill count is in the millions.
Palpatine dismissed his guards after Luke was brought to him. That Luke had been brought before the Emperor was probably not a secret. What mattered was that Luke survived. Vader and the Emperor (seemingly) did not. To the Empire, that would look like Luke had killed them both despite having originally been a prisoner. Further, back between ANH and ESB, Vader was openly obsessed with capturing Luke and the Imperial fleet (and certainly the bridge crew of the Executor) knew that this was Vader's goal. Moff Gideon, not having an audience view of the story, would merely know that Luke had once been a highest priority target for Vader and the Emperor. A target, that once captured, seemingly killed them both. This would have understandably scared him witless. Gideon has quite an ego and he is Force-sensitive. But he's not going to be stupid enough to take on somebody who seemingly beheaded the Empire!
That play on the “Lore” of Luke Skywalker should make for some spectacular Star Wars Universe programming and ultimately a new trilogy over the next 5-10 years. Sebastian Stan should now be Luke over the next two decades!
@@michaelgeisdorf6641 - More like a repair job to fix Rian's deconstruction of the characters to make them all look like idiots and losers. His contempt for Luke in particular was an insult to all fans.
Good post DanThe Man.. read my post at the top. i posted it 5 mins beforre this..
The Imperials would be terrified of Luke for sure..
In the books before the NewJediOrder (about 20 books) the Imp Remnants feared & respected Luke and avoided beefing him or his students..
They knew he also blew up the Deathstar,,defeated Vader in space & in hand2hand combat and it wasnt a secret in The Empire that [Palpatine was a sith. So killing a Sith Master & Vader would be pretty epic... They were terrified of him & for good reason..
FU Disney= i hate you!
@@CT-nb5lm Agreed that Rian's decision to deconstruct Luke (and everyone else) was a slap in the face of fans.
@@daniels7907 TLJ is still the best movie out of the sequel trilogy. At least it tried to tell an original spin instead of rehashing the same exact story beats and almost shot for shot recreations of some scenes from the Original Trilogy like TFA and ROS did very heavily.
I don't see how TLJ is a "deconstruction" of the characters. Luke is literally still in battle with his own dark side, when he almost killed Kylo it literally is an homage to how he almost killed Vader, which is the act of mercy that brought Anakin back to the light. The subversion of this scene is that it doesn't work in the same way Luke expected, it all blows up in his face and he fails. Which is fine, because he's not the main character of this story anymore. Luke begins rejecting his Galaxy wide infamy and tries to become obscure, only in TLJ to embrace that status and single handedly from across space stalls the First Order with a force illusion to allow the rebellion to escape and fight another day.
So “Star Wars” didn’t “finally reveal” anything? This is just an 8 minute video saying Moff Gideon knows history.
pretty much
I'm still wondering how this was "finally" revealed by Star Wars, when this take was one that was immediately assumed a year ago when the S2 finale aired.
@@meiotic1 to be fair this is all any of the Star Wars Fandom videos consist of. How Vader defeated Palpatine FINALLY REVEALED. Oh, he just tossed his ass over a ledge? Like in the movie? Cool.
Welcome Star Wars "Explanation" videos on UA-cam. A lot of hooblah.
Gotta hit that 8min money mark somehow.
While I figured that Gideon had possibly known of Luke, I figured that reason he tried to off himself was that Gideon knows things that he didn't want the Republic or New Jedi to know. Like the plan to revive Palpatine.
very possible, but from what show's I've seen and books I've read, I don't remember if Gideon was part of that plan or not, good theory though for sure
Old palps can’t be “revived “ that’s fan fiction, made by pretenders
@@unknownslayer7128 👏👏
@@unknownslayer7128 I like that energy, but the dark empire series is old school legit.
Also he couldve just figured that he better go out on his own terms than face whatever punishment the New Republic has in store for him, odds are they won't be kind
Question: What villain WASNT scared of Prime Luke after ROTJ? Like seriously bro I’d pass out.
I dont Know
Kathleen Kennedy wasn't scared she was plotting
@@jamesyandsonsoutdooradvent9394 she’s too dangerous to be left alive
I'd say grand admiral thrawn, as it's just a challenge for him otherwise no one I guess
@@drew2626 no, it is not our way
Especially after witnessing how easily Luke walked through the dark troopers, Moff Gideon had no doubt that the stories were true, and he truly feared more what Luke would or could do to him more than death itself.
Your reasoning definitely provides a good general outline as to why Gideon would be terrified of him. Within that story there are quite a few different, but plausible sub-stories he could have known about or believed, all of which would amount to him crapping his pants upon seeing that hood & green lightsaber cutting through his machines like a hot knife through butter.
He was in his late teens or early 20s during the clone wars. He knew the name Anakin Skywalker. A young powerful Jedi and hero. He also knew the name of the pilot that took out Death Star1.. Season 2 was about 5 years after he took out Vader. He was justified in crapping his uniform when Luke was destroying his dark troopers
And his dark troopers were designed to be unstoppable.
Yeah, he was a part of The Great Purge of Mandalore. He then became an officer of the Imperial Security Bureau which was an intelligence agency. He very likely knew well who Luke was and of all his accomplishments due to that job.
Here's why Moff Gideon was shitting bricks when he saw Luke: He knows that at one point, Luke was in the same room as Emperor Palpatine and his top dog, Darth Vader, and only Luke walked out alive, dragging Vader's body with him. Darth Vader was the boogeyman to the Empire and everyone it ruled over. And Palpatine was even scarier. Now you see this ONE Rebel/Jedi who, as far as anyone else knows, killed BOTH of them. Gideon has EVERY reason to be terrified of Luke.
Exactly why Luke Skywalker is a FREAKING BADASS (in rumor he's much more badass to an exaggerated degree obviously 😂).
Not to mention watching his Dark Troopers be as much as a threat as a pack of Wamp Rats to Skywalker would make anyone get a case of piss inducing terror.
Don't forget he blew up the first Death Star, too.
@@gponce1717 Seeing that likely would have reinforced the stories that Gideon had heard of Luke's immense power. He's slicing through them almost like they're butter.
Thank you for summing it up.. So tired of these pointless extensive videos that could be summarized within a few minutes.
One of the most iconic scenes in recent human culture. Seeing Gidians face, who spent the whole series being badass unflinching and always in complete control, turn and show such worry and fear at the Meer sight of luke approaching and then for him almost blow his own brains out was sooooo powerful. This man took part in the destruction of mandalor and led a superior fighting force and was completely defeated before luke had even done anything.
Luke's power is what he means to us! He is the voice of our hope and desire that no matter what evil and hardship which relentlessly attack us will ultimately be defeated and ultimately overcome by the sheer weight and magnatitude of the willpower of good.
Indeed. Stupendous Wave himself said what makes Star Wars great is that whenever great evil arises, heroes also arise to answer the call to arms.
I saw this explanation a lot and I subscribe to it myself:
Gideon might not have know what Palpatine and Vader are (siths that is), but he definitely know that these two are both terrifying and have unthinkable might.
So you have these three figures in one room. Only Luke comes out alive. With Vader in his grip, barely living.
This story would definitely spread like wildfire across the Imperial Ranks and by word of mouth would be told even scarier from time to time.
Taken into account, how emperor and Vader ruled, he probably heard some rumors about their abilities. They weren't shy to point out, if someone lied or feel fear. They show many other powerful abilities, so there should be some rumors based on them. Like emperor can read minds and take your deepest secrets from your skull. And how he torture people who go against him or disappoint him etc. Because this was his main source of information about force users, he chose to blow his head to stop that Jedi to do something to him etc.
Two slight problems that I can see with this explanation, which largely parallels my thoughts. I don't think it was widely known by the Empire or anyone that Palpatine was a Sith. He was feared yes, but because of the might of the Empire and Vader as his personal agent. The second point is that nobody there knew who Luke was on the bridge of Gideon's ship. With his information gathering resources, Gideon might have been able to piece together that the figure they saw cutting through the Dark Troopers was the infamous Luke Skywalker who killed the Emperor and Vader. Or maybe not. But he surely knew the stories of the Jedi Generals of the Clone Wars and what they were capable of. Whether or not he guessed it was Luke, the fact that a Jedi was on board carving up his last line of defense certainly would have been enough to panic him.
I always heard that Luke was basically considered a feared legend by any leftover people from the empire since he went in the room with Vader and Sidious and came out alive with sidious dead and Vader dying.
@@timothywyatt3269 It's a likely answer, but not directly ripped from Canon. I think OPs comment is more likely. It didn't matter if it was Luke, Ashoka, or some no name. What mattered was that they looked like a Jedi, had the tools of a Jedi, and was carving up his Droids like a Jedi. I would have went to take my own life too in that situation, a Jedi gets a lot less information from a dead Imperial then a reluctant one
I dont think he though It could bê ahsoka or other Jedi, when he Saw the easyness in which the robed figure was destroyng his troopers there was no doubt in his mind It was Luke, ahsoka was no Jedi and possibly couldnt have Done that, and besides there were no more jedi in the Galaxy, It could only have been luke
The face moff gideon makes is like "what? But only a Luke could do something Like this, oh shit its him"
@@Thzega what do you mean Ahsoka couldn't do that lol, she's a powerful force user. You don't need to be a Jedi to be a good forceuser.
I think Gideon feared that Luke was capable of seeing his mind, what they were doing and what they were planning, and feared all would be revealed whether Gideon was willing to give it up or not. That or Gideon feared someone else, someone higher up in the organization, and what the punishment would be for allowing himself to be captured by Luke.
Did you mean higher up?
@@axelbaldwin3343 yup, thanks
I like that explaination.
@@axelbaldwin3343 I think moff Gideon was a wannabe Jedi because he carried a lightsaber like weapon! When he seen the real thing he got spooked out!
Now that I think about it. Why Luke just ran off from the scene, and left out an imperial remnant like that. Maybe the rebels are en route too, idk.
the funny thing was only giddeon knew exactly who was on that lone X-Wing, having heard all the stories from the grunts about the lone jedi knight who flew a battered X-Wing (Luke's x-wing was a first generation x-wing, the thing is OLD compared to even New Republic standards), grogu knew there was a powerful force user on board but doesnt personally know luke and everyone else have no idea who this guy is. That means only Giddeon knew how much shit he was in when that one x-wing arrives because who knew of only 1 hero who would fly an x-wing to a capital ship by himself and walk away.
I am guessing the one from the rebellion only knows him as red 5 and not luke skywalker.
Another fantastic analysis. Appreciate the holistic approach and depth, bringing in both the lore and psycho-emotional and relational realities at play. Always a treat.
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Reasoning is solid, but I think you should have mentioned how he basically walked through his Dark trooper project, his pet project to re conquer the lost territories of the Empire. Luke finished them all off basically unimpeded by them.
That might be the biggest reason. If someone just waded through my ultimate weapons like it was a Sunday stroll I would piss my pants.
@@codename1176 I think moff Gideon was a wannabe Jedi because he carried a lightsaber like weapon! When he seen the real thing he got spooked out!
@@Angry.General1461 There may be something to this, we still do not know why he wanted Grogu or the experiments he was doing. We only know he wanted his blood.
Any Jedi could have done that. Fending off some blasters is really sort of beginner level Jedi skills.
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Add in that Gideon, being a force user, could FEEL Luke's power. Even from the distance. That Luke had also masked himself, using the force, until he started walking the halls and trashing the defenses. Imagine thinking you have won, then suddenly, this dude you should have sensed appears on your ship
Gideon wasn't a force user was he? I don't remember that ever coming up in the show before.
Gideon wasn’t a force user, he just had the darksaber. If he was a force user then Mando wouldn’t have stood a chance.
Gideon wasn't a force user he just trained to use the dark saber though rather poorly against mando
@@Kartorian he was force SENSETIVE.
@@boptodatop where is that stared though? That's all I'm asking.
Great analysis. This ties into the Book of Boba Fett too. Fett witnessed Luke defeating himself and Jabbas guards. When coming out of the pit, he may have wondered wtf happened. If his number one, Fennac, mentions this to him, he could also be building his own defenses as he was the man who brought Solo to Jabba, and the series of events leading to his almost death. Stay low, grow strong then protect… maybe a future fight between the newJedi and Boba’s empire… who knows. Lots of possibilities… doubt Disney goes this route, but at least we have a New Hope in enjoying Star Wars.
Yeah, it's doubtful. If anything, Boba could be a rival to Luke's new Jedi Order or something.
@@Hei_Darkfire I don't see Fett being as much of a rival to Luke. Anytime we see Mandalorian super commandos fighting Jedi they can only win through sheer numbers.
Hell Fett did once face Luke in the Marvel Star Wars comics right after ANH's events and Luke got away from him. Post ROJ I don't see Fett standing much chance against him.
Luke defeating himself….
imagine…
how epic of a lightsaber battle that must have been?
I heard he ended up losing both hands.
I believe in Book of Boba Fett. Boba witnessed almost all the Jedi being slaughtered in Order 66. But then again, a Jedi killed his father at the same time.
I hope Luke, Grogu and Boba meet! Both survivors of Order 66...
Fuck the sequels. If they could be retconned out of existence by Filoni, I'm on board.
Basically. Moff gideon was afraid of Luke skywalker because he is luke skywalker.
That description is so true! We as the audience just see Luke as a farm boy, but the name Skywalker has all the baggage of Anakin attached to it, good and bad, but the galaxy never knew Anakin's fall to Vader, they would have known him and remembered him as the insanely popular war general. NEW HOPE GIVES US THIS!! Red Leader commented to Luke about meeting his father!
Sounds like a good explanation to me. It's interesting as a fan to start seeing perspectives of the story from other characters.
Well, Luke DID live up to Gideon's expectations when he took on AND defeated the entire Dark Trooper legion on the ship, and though his encounter with Vader and Palpatine didn't go as so many people thought, he DID not only defeat Vader in single combat, but by redeeming him, leaving to him killing Palpatine, he WAS responsible for Palpatine's death.
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“…from a certain point of view.” Agreed.
not rlly even tho he beat vader i dont think vader was trying to kill luke, plus, it was mostly vader than killed palps
@Zeus's Father yea well without vader would luke have overthrown him?
@Zeus's Father i read it perfectly fine
I agree. The legend surrounding Luke was enough to terrify Moff Gideon and in his mind there was nothing he could do to survive a direct confrontation with Luke Skywalker. When I watched the last episode of The Mandalorian I was watching Moff Gideon's reaction to seeing Luke and I was for a few minutes a little confused by his reaction. I hadn't at that point considered what Palpatines remaining followers thought about Luke. I assumed most would want to get even and try and destroy him, but I never had any thought as to what story had been told after the deaths of Vader and Palpatine. Gideon's reaction makes perfect sense to me now. Thank you for such an informative video. I can't wait to see what happens next with The Mandalorian, Luke, Grogu, Ahsoka, Sabine, Ezra and Thrawn!
I love how Giancarlo Esposito staring at a screen intensely is all anyone needs to confidently state 'He's legitimately scared here, i've never seen him this shook.' Testimate to a freaking amazing actor.
context is EVERYTHING! nice work!
I assumed that Gideon tried to kill himself because he was worried that Luke wud use his Jedi powers and find out Palpatine was still alive
Nah, palpatine died with the death star.
Before Luke arrived Gideon still thought he had won because of the Dark Troopers. Once they were cut down all he could try to do was deny them their prizes, by killing the child and stopping them from turning him over to the New Republic.
Heresy
Imperials would share fables about Luke Skywalker standing onthe nose of his X-Wing and deflected ship fired lasers with the force, crushing TIEs with the force, so it's no surprise that a Moff has heard of him and wo uld fear him. Even if he didn't know it was Luke specifically... but I guess he did, because it was a single X-Wing that landed.
There is a good likelihood Moff Gideon is force-sensitive, so it wouldn't matter if he knew Luke or not.
You just reminded me how awesome that scene was and how much more angry I was over Luke's treatment in the movies that shall not be named.
Thank you for your videos friend. May the force be with you
What made Luke so powerful was his ability to overcome his greatest fear (being corrupted to the Dark Side, like his father) and seeing the good in people that he magically lost when he attempted to murder his best friend and sister’s only child while he slept.
Moff Gideon only sees power in material might; not in righteousness of character.
Underrated comment, bravo. Magically lost indeed.
The Luke in the last Jedi is not real. Mark Hamill was furious about the way his character was changed and didn’t want to do it. Not know the full script Hamill tried his hardest to have it changed and could not walk away or he would of been sued for everything he owned! So to me the last Jedi is trash and not canon! They should cut the last 3 movies cause it ruined every fan. So glad real fans made the Mandalorian and finally gave us the Luke we all wanted.
@@josephdooo3139 Amen to that, Brother.
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If I were Gideon I'd be pissing my pants
You Brought Up Outstanding Points That I Never Thought Of.
I've wanted to draw a comic of this... I love the idea of what the Imperials thought as a bound prisoner entered a room with the 2 most powerful beings in the empire and then left it dragging one's broken body and the other nowhere to be found....
This what I figured. Luke might have told the Rebel Alliance that Vader killed the Emperor, but the remnants of the Empire probably didn't believe that. Plus they did see Luke carrying a badly injured Vader, the man who had a reputation as being the invincible fist of the Empire.
Gideon likely was afraid that Luke would drag him back to the New Republic where he would be interrogated for information on his accomplices. Or he might have simply decided to kill himself because he'd rather die than surrender. It would fit the Nazi theme of the Empire since many real life Nazi leaders committed suicide to avoid capture.
The most evil people are often cowards
Everyone who saw Luke carrying Vader, were blown up in the Death Star
@@justinschmitt5850 I think moff Gideon was a wannabe Jedi because he carried a lightsaber like weapon! When he seen the real thing he got spooked out!
@@Angry.General1461 yeah I think at this point he realized that there was absolutely no way out for him 🤔😁
@@BRockIITWi Luke didnt kill everyone in the hangar full of transport ships, he just took one for himself and his father's corpse.
It's an ok reason but watching that episode I took it more as moff Gideon who has made himself pretty well known for having all the info and being pretty sure that even though it was going to be a rough fight on his ship that he still would win, and the lone xwing coming to help was a major unknown to him. Also while he was the main bad guy in the mandalorian so far it kind of felt like while he was big and important that he wasn't the top guy. Shooting the mandalorian and trying to get grogu then himself felt.more like a lieutenant trying to clean up loose ends and prevent his knowledge from falling into rebel hands but that's just my abridged opinion lol. Still, nicely laid out
An extremely reasonable explanation because it's the exact same one I went over in my head as I read the title of the video. Well done!
In that scene he looked as perplexed as the others on the ship. He realized it was a Jedi when watching the monitors and seeing how easily this Jedi was cutting through the Dark Troopers. I don't think he knew it was Skywalker necessarily but knew it was a Jedi from which they hadn't seen in a long time.
And at that moment, regardless of WHO the Jedi was, he realized that all of his plans went to hell at that point.
For me this is an good example of “the mind is your own worst enemy “
Jedi training is about overcoming the fear and practicing Stoicism where as Sith training is to understand fears within others and exploit it
Wasn't Luke Skywalker the Grim Reaper for imperial officers tho?
Pretty much and Top Tiered Force Users of any alignment can be scary in combat.
Love the exposition of the percieved story!!
To me it's the most logical explanation of what transpired. Excellent content and job well done of telling the tale!
I mean I feel like any evildoer who has heard of Luke and what he accomplished in such a short time would have feared him
Glad you came to this conclusion.
I had the same when I saw Gideon's expression in the last show of S2.
The Empire and all its military by then knew to their bones, for 2 decades by then, that both Vader and Palpatine were THE most dangerously, by far, powerful beings alive. They were supremely deadly and had proven their enormous power and influence many times over.
And yet when Luke was captured, and brought to the Death Star, all the military saw, was a boy being brought in binds by Vader, alone, in to the same room with Palpatine.
And a short time later, all they saw was Luke carrying out a fatally wounded Vader, and no Emperor, and the rapid collapse of their Empire.
What other conclusion could have Gideon come to?
SUPER sick video!!!! I was so into this!!! Great content my dude!!!!
In Return of The Jedi, even Vader said to Luke, " Indeed You Are Powerful, As The Emperor Has Foreseen It"!
He mentions that the surviving imperials told their interpretation of the events that took place on the second death star, and leaving it at that. I don't think that's all there is to it, as stories like this one tend to change and morph as time goes on. I wouldn't be surprised that, by the time it reached him, it had become "Luke Skywalker killed the Darth Vader and the Emperor with a mere thought." It might not have been as dramatic as what I just stated, but I would think that it would have been far more dramatic than what it had been when the Imperials told it.
Gideon is many things, but an idiot is not one of them. I'd expect him to shoot whoever told him a story as overblown as that one, simply based on the kind of guy he is. I would absolutely believe he knew about what happened, at least the cliffnotes version. It would explain why he is building the dark troopers using grogu's genetic material. They were designed in part to hunt jedi and anyone who is force sensitive, that's why they all stopped and turned as one when luke boarded the ship.
Also, some people my be interested in blowing the stories out of proportion on purpose, either because they don't like the Empire, or they just wanted no accountability for letting Skywalker go unopposed.
It’s a great theory but honestly I don’t think they were thinking that (the show writers). I believe they portrayed him trying to kill himself to avoid being captured and sent back to the republic to be interrogated. Capturing a Moff would be the real life equivalent of capturing a grand admiral of the navy.
i can agree with this.
but the actor did show horror in his face when i saw the jedi killing the droids.
so the actor was told to show fear.
@@delukard07 oh for sure!
Makes perfect sense for Gideon to be terrified of Luke. If I had heard the stories, I would probably be pretty terrified too.
Gideon was in the mess hall getting a slice of roasted Dewback, when he overheard A conversation between a couple Stormtroopers. It was mostly just ball busting about each others performance in their blaster proficiency test, but then one said "I was there man. Vader brought that mother into a room with the emperor. Next thing I know, the whole space station was trembling and that guy comes out, dragging Vader behind him. Well I hit the durasteel and hopped A pod outta there!!"
And that is how the Legend of Luke Skywalker spread throughout the Empires ranks. It was a water cooler moment at the office.
You got this all wrong. He wasn’t afraid of Luke, he saw R2. That’s one badass little droid and his reputation is well established by 9 films.
Adding tô the análisis, we have tô remember that in the empires eyes, Jedi were super Wizards who tried tô take palpatines life multiple times in the past, leaving him scarred...and theyre considered traitors and higly dangerous...tô the Empire, palpatine is the only way tô achieve peace, and yes since Luke defeated Vader which was seem as unbeatable, Luke is then feared as highly dangerous and probably one of the reason for the empires remnants tô operate in the shadows
why are so many of your o's wearing hats? :)
@@jarradscarborough7915 asking the real questions
wow, that was awesome. Definitely made me think & go deeper into the story. I think this is a good companion vid to the movies regardless if you seen mandalorian season 1 & 2. This vids summary could be redone by lucas film & made cannon like somebody (a teacher) telling students/children the story/legend of luke skywalker.
A solid point of view with a slant I'd never thought of, a very good video.
Pretty good theory and I'll accept it. In fact I quite like the idea of Mof Gideon being afraid of Luke. He'd been an arrogant SOB throughout the series!
I agree that Gideon would fear Luke and might panic on realizing that Luke was there, but I still don't see why death would be preferable. It's not like a Jedi would torture him. Maybe he has a higher up boss he has to protect (Thrawn?).
The conflicting bit is that as far as Gideon 'knows' is that Luke had killed killed the Emperor and his right hand Vader while being cuffed and weaponless. Luke's visage (A figure dressed in black with a green blade that flys an X-wing) would add to the intimidation factor along with his achievements to put him at the level of a true horror come to life for soldiers like Gideon that even Vader couldn't match. Faced with a being with that interpretation making its way towards you while effortlessly cutting down your defenses, how many can say that they would believe that such a figure would show mercy like the Jedi of old to it enemies? Or if they even stood a chance at resisting whatever methods or persuasion it might use. Death would seem like a better option to must i think.
yeah, I'm scratching my head on that one
In the mandallorean they showed that he would rather die than betray his cause.
You also have to remember that the empire spread lies about the Jedi saying that they where infact that bad guys vile enough to kidnap and murder children, Not true of course but how the Jedi always made everything a big secret (for good reason) and then them recruiting literally babies to be trained it's understandable why general Empire Soldiers and Civilians would be scared of even a normal Jedi let alone the one that (supposedly) killed both their leader and his greatest enforcer.
great content thanks for your insights...very well done
Props, very well thought out and makes a lot of sense. Moff Gideon might have also had some sort of history and/or interaction with Luke, which may learn in a future episode of one of these series.
I love this reasoning entirely. It seems extremely likely that Luke’s triumphs would turn into urban legends far larger than their realities. I’d say it even helps explain why legions of grown men were crying upon witnessing his return in Mando… Luke _IS_ a Legend.
Yeah I don't think Vader or Palps were big on advertising their training. Tarkin knew, but even he played it close to the vest because he knew it didn't serve him to leak it. The empire structure concerning their anti-Jedi policies were very insular. Vader ran the inquisitors and that was all the authority anyone needed. Even Krennic went to Vader. I think the Tarkin book was really good at describing that only the emperors' crimson guard and personal attendants were privy to the Emperor's training. Vader was the boogieman. The Marvel Comics have done a tremendous job of showing how widespread Vader's legend was and that it was suicide or worse to question the Emperor's relationship with Vader. As far as Gideon knows, Luke "officially" killed Vader, Tarkin and anyone else on DS1, Emperor, Boba Fett, Jabba, and the Royal Guard. Anyone who could refute that died on the DS2. Obviously he'll take Fett off that list. If you were on the Rebels most wanted list, Luke could end you.
That is a really great take on this. I could see Luke becoming a phantom used to scare beyond his Jedi skills. And maybe he embraced using that fear?
Love the analysis. Well done
What I still have yet to understand is how do people not know that Anakin became Darth Vader. I mean his 501st troops literally went into the Jedi temple with him as Darth Vader and even though he went off to fight Obi Wan alone there was still a Darth Vader at the end of the fight but now in a suit. Did all of those 501st clones die before hand? Did they not make the connection that anakin was Darth Vader and still is? Could you possibly do a video on that?
the 501st troopers still knew him as anakin he was no longer a jedi but to them still anakin after his battle with obi wan his fall was complete and he rose again in the suit as vader
Alison Wonderland makes some good points. Whether or not he knew of he legend of Luke from the final events in return of the Jedi, it seems Luke was hunting Gidian regardless, thus it is safe to assume there were probably some events off screen where Luke went through Gidian's underlings in an attempt to gather information on how to locate Gidian. As such, Gidian was likely aware that there was a powerful Jedi disrupting his plans, and probably realized he was at the top of his list. So at the very least whether or not he even knew who Luke was, Gidian must have known what Luke had done to his underlings, and thus realized it was the same Jedi on his ship crushing his beloved Dark Troopers like tin cans. I mean, lets be real... At this point in the universe, its not like there were many Jedi left that it could have been anyways. Probably safe to assume, if theres a Jedi on your imperial star destroyer, chances are its the same dude whose basically single handedly destoryed the imperial hirearchy.
Though, it is certainly a lot cooler to think that Gidian was shaking in his boots because he watched the original trilogy like we did ;)
(Thats a joke btw, meaning he was essentially privy to the same information the viewer was if they watched the OG trilogy)
There are around six Jedi/former Jedi alive at the time of Mando season 2.
This is the best... Reasoning Why.. The Skywalker name became a Legend. Great Video
I am most impressed to see that you have survived your injuries...
Great video and I totally agree with this statement. Palpatine and Vader had been the two most powerful beings for 2 decades and then Luke comes and destroys two of their Death Star's and then kills Palpatine and Vader. I thought the actor did a great job of showing fear in his face as we watched Luke destroy all those Dark Troopers.
In looking at the fighting techniques while wading his way to the command deck and Grogu, Luke used both Jedi and Sith techniques, which could indicate that Luke was the physical embodiment of the Balance of the Force…thus Vader did fulfill the prophecy by fathering Luke. High ranking Sith Lords might also have figured this out…especially with Luke taking out everyone he did. So if Luke could use both the dark side and the light side of the force without being turned toward either, it would explain the ease in which he waded through the robots to reach Grogu, as well as why when he sensed that Ben Solo had a slight leaning toward the Darkside he freaked, and then Ben saw it and Kylo was created… thus leading Luke to cut himself off from the force completely. I think that would be a viable reason as to how he acts in the “Last Jedi.”
Except there's absolutely no reason that Luke - of all people - would be afraid of anyone falling to the dark side, as he knows it's not a one-way trip.
Yeah I don’t/won’t acknowledge anything from those sequels. I can’t.
My 2 EU/Star Wars homies and I made the EU/Legends our canon and just see the Disney sequels as bad fan fiction.
it is a good explanation for that. it is also a nice explanation for his arc in last jedi if you think about it
I thought that was Dark Helmet in the thumb nail for this video! 😀
How long does the events of Mandalorian happen after Return of the Jedi?
Unfortunately for him to make this appearance just like Vader making a cameo in Rogue One, we see more advanced light saber techniques and styles. Also with someone like Moff Gideon could Luke also have know about him already not really walking in blind at all to find the young Groku.
Luke is around 28 years old in mandalorian
@@ronnellroyall9024 so he was what maybe like 20 at the beginning of episode 4. That light saber sequence in Mando was rediculouse. Does he use old combat forms or has he made his own since he was one of the few jedi left at the time. I think it is best to retcon the sequel Trilogy most would not have a problem forgeting. But if they were to use the same characters but do better by them like Fin. Like I would have and really want Fin to become or train as jedi
Gideon's ego made him think that Luke was here to kill him That he was as important to the empire now as Vader or the emperor was then. Gideon is seeing Luke slow walk through his dark troopers like they are flies. Gideon may have captured , tortured and killed some of Luke's students tortured. Gideon may believe as their teacher he may be hunting Gideon for vengeance. Gideon may believe that Luke dragged a wounded and helpless Vader to Endor to be roasted alive and eaten by Ewoks. With the cruel mind set of the officers of the empire and the propaganda that the empire use. There is no telling what lies Gideon was telling himself
Imperials Roasted alive to b eaten by ewoks, as Empire propaganda, is fucking brilliant!
@@cyberdelicxp9125 totally!!!
I never even thought about that. As an audience member i know what happened in the throne room, and never considered that survivors would be scared shitless of this baby-faced kid who - in their eyes - slashed through the two most powerful beings in the galaxy at the same time.
This is exactly the train of thought I had as well I've read a lot of the comics and some books so I had an idea of Luke's reputation
How many people knew that Palpatine was a Sith Lord? Doubtful that many did. How many knew that Vader was a Sith? Again, not many. In the original trilogy, Sith weren’t even mentioned much, if any. Vader was known by some to have the ability to us the force, but more didn’t even believe in “hokey religions and ancient weapons”. So claiming that Luke’s reputation was because he killed two powerful Siths doesn’t add up. Most people would only know that he was responsible for the destruction of the first Death Star and that he had a hand in killing the Palpatine and his henchman, Vader. The whole reaction of Moff was written to give Luke his balls back after the mouse castrated him in the final trilogy. Too bad Disney didn’t allow Luke to rise to the power that he did in legends, something that Moff would have definitely feared, instead of making him a failed, blue milk drinking, simp.
It doesn't matter if they knew Palpatine and Vader were Sith. Just ask the guy in charge of building the second Death Star. Everyone is afraid of Vader as it is, and when Vader tells this guy that the Emperor will be making a visit and that he could suggest some ways to motivate the men building the new Death Star, the guy goes from nervous to nearly terrified in seconds. Suddenly, this guy doesn't need any more men to complete the job. In fact, they will double their efforts.
Bottom line: From their point of view, Luke killed the two most powerful and terrifying people in the galaxy. The only explanation, for the Imperials, is that he's more powerful than they were. If he was able to kill the Emperor and Vader, what might he do to any or all of them?
Does one need a reason to be scared of Luke when you aren't on his side?
Imagine how much telephone game happened with this story across the galaxy.
Excellent breakdown…. I can see all of this being present in Gideon’s head and for all of the reasons you surmised.
I think maybe he’s seen the clone of Luke that Palps made in Legends. He has definitely been around the cloning facilities. There would be all kinds of imperfect versions around , just like with Snoke. He may even have seen Luuke. And Palps clone as well.
Prime-level Luke was a baby faced boogey man. Rumors are often greatly exaggerated, so hearing a Jedi powerful enough to destroy a death star on his lunch break, stop in to destroy Palpatine and Vader in a dunk contest, then seeing him decimate space terminators in person, is enough to make anyone perform dental work on themselves with their blaster.
Honestly sir you covered the story well. It makes perfect sense. Putting myself in this “story” I would’ve come to the same conclusion.
The prom picture of palpatine and Vader crossing blades is my favorite thing now
Awesome
For me, it stands to reason that Moff Gideon, as a high-ranking official in the Empire, potentially connected to the Imperial Security Bureau (with the attachment of Death Troopers at his beck and call Season 1), would know about Luke Skywalker as a high-value target even from the post-Empire Strikes Back time where Vader ordered Luke captured alive. If his Dark Troopers were programmed with records from the ISB, and there was perhaps a left-over priority order in that database to terminate Luke (even potentially just Order 66 as a standing directive), that would explain their total abandonment of Moff Gideon's rescue and the redirection to take down Luke. And the Moff would be able to put two and two together, realizing that his rescue could only be superceded by a high-priority order to take down high-value targets like the last known Jedi Knight. And with his involvment in what we can assume to be the cloning of Palpatine, he probably feared that the Jedi had uncovered his efforts and sought to take him down.
You have a perfect explanation💯💪🏾
Makes sense. Although I was anticipating some new information.
So.. he's NOT so much scared of Luke it's the worry that SOMEHOW he might fly his fighter and manage to one shot his Star Destroyer the way he seemingly did the Death Star...
Even IF it happened to be true in the Death Stars case... Did he NOt think to check the cams in the throne room that woulda displayed similar to what we saw in the movies??
Shoot I could only imagine what the fraction of the empire thought of Luke. First the hole galaxy knew Vader as probably the most ruthless enforcer the galaxy has ever seen. Only heard stories about Sith like Vader. And the galaxy knew the emperor ruled the entire galaxy with an iron fist!! And not even the most powerful crime syndicates didn’t cross the emperor. Plus they knew Vader was there to handle any problems anyone gave the empire. So the person who controlled the most feared man/machine in the galaxy had to be something no one even wanted to have to come in front of. So like you said they seen Luke go in, in handcuffs, and come out with the emperor dead and dragging a half dead one handed Vader!!! So yeah people are going to talk. To real story alone is incredible but with the embellishments of word of mouth only made Luke bigger than life. Even tho Luke is actually bigger than life!!!
I think its the story, and the reality all combining at once that drove Moff Gideon to do what he did at the end. It was desperate, and full of fear. The story was no longer a story, and he could see his strength in the flesh.
Everyone is gangster until a Jedi Master walks in the room.
Clearly correct. Luke was the boogieman legend of the ex imperials. Much like Vader was that for the remaining Jedi. Word always spreads and legends are always made out of men. Those legends are always larger than the man they are based on as it is simpler for people to assign all things bad to one great figure or power that stands above all others. Clearly that is why Gideon fears Luke so much. No other explanation makes as much sense.
Remember that Luke was to bring "balance" to the Force, meaning he was a harlequin Jedi who was half light, half dark. The books in particular describe him as a terrifying figure who executed his enemies just like his father had.
that was a cold fucking scene when Luke just squished this Dark Trooper using force
He not only know about jedis from reading, history or rumors, he live at time the jedi where alive, i think that is the problem on the star wars lore is that it seems that the events of the end of the republic happened centuries or at least 50 years ago, but actually happened only 20 years ago and at the time of the mandalorian is only about 30, we know that is veeeery little time and most of the population and war veterans are alive and not too old to forget.