Imagine having your door smashed in by police in the middle of the night, being cuffed and told you're under arrest for murder and your reaction amounts to little more than "oooh...okay...can i put my shoes on?"
@@AW-kr9fl don't forget that everyone has different reactions. I don't think that every innocent person would necessary be shocked and confused. Furthermore, having this reaction does not necessarily mean that the person is innocent.
@Raoul. Sure, if you're guilty, you act like that But if you're innocent, you start screaming....what the hell are you talking about? That's how you know when someone is guilty. They just act calm and accepting because they know they did it, and they're caught
One of my favourite things about this channel is that he doesn’t give attention to the murderes but instead the victims making the story about them. Respect ❤️
The victims are not as interesting though since they are normal people. Murderers are anything but normal and are therefore more interesting. Btw, a comment like yours has already been posted on every single video in this channel, is it really necessary to post it every damn time?
@@michaelkjellander9370 Yeah I can see that but it seems lots of true crime UA-camrs plaster the killer's name or the name of the crime as a way to generate interest. At that point, it seems scummy to me. Like they don't really care about the victims and just used their situation to profit off of.
@@visassess8607 Yes, it is in bad taste, but it works and Coffeehouse isn't really an exception in that regard. I've been ashamed for liking true crime so much, but what's most interesting about true crime for me is the police investigations. Finding the culprit and securing evidence.
..London isnt the CCTV capital of the world..that honour goes to Ryiad in Saudi Arabia..closely followed by Dubai in the UAE - surveillance systems installed by British companies though. Thats what we know as documented - i might suggest Beijing is also at the top of the list
@@jamjamlove3634 Shenzhen, China has 234% more cctv cameras per capita than London. Chongqing, China has 245% more cctv cameras per capita than London. London is indeed in the top 10 surveilled cities in the world, but far from the most watched.
She honestly could have sold that house, found a nice two bedroom flat for herself and mom, gone back to school for a career change and started her life over. Was she that attached to her old house? So sad
Considering the fact that ppl work all their life to buy a house. She probably didn't want to go through the trouble if she had already bought it in cash. Maybe she thought no one was going to question her since she is privileged.
It's difficult moving from a house to a flat. You also hafta have somewhere to live as soon as the house sells. If she didn't have money then she would need rent security before the house sold... It ain't that easy but still nothing to kill over
I cannot help but think that something happened in Australia like being found to have committed professional misconduct which barred her from continuing in her profession , hence she went back to the UK.
Worst part of this is how a complete absolute hellish monster like Gemma, could present herself like a normal regular human being. People are scary. RIP Deborah.
The thing is.. it was a human. Humans are capable of vile things as prove that humans can be monsters time and time again. It’s an unfortunate, undeniable truth that people need to realize.
if you are gonna do a murder, you're gonna have a plan to get away with it! I think she had 2 suitcases and hired a car that mirrored a car she had access to! police should check for her finger prints on the back side of the number plates of the hired car
The worst part is that Brits can't tell the difference between "life imprisonment" and "34 years." Yeah I know she "might not get out" but why not just make a decisions? It's either final or it's not. If there is no reasonable doubt then why should the judge have doubts about the sentence? It's not like anything she does in prison matters.
But look at the kind of person that she chose to warm up to?!? She probably used the whole living with her elderly mother to play on her emotions (being that she was an elderly woman......that wasn't around or living with family). She probably also made it her business to find out all that she could about her, in order to present herself like some knight in shining armour (hence why she was pretending to heal her). I can't stand low lives that come with pretenses to people that they either know things about/believe they know things about them or believe that they know who they are by sizing them up. Unfortunately, that elderly woman had opened up herself to her and allowed a degenerate to get way too close. To the point that she believed that she could take whatever she desired from her. Alot of folk don't realize that guilt isn't some random "emotion" that happens when you know that you are wrong, being that you've aimed to harm someone. It's more or less a reminder that they're not the only one aware of what they've done. That woman's deadly experience needs to haunt her every morning that she rises. Every thing that she did to inflict pain and remove breath from that woman's Life, needs to stay on repeat.
@@CoffeehouseCrime there's always improvements to be made but that doesn't mean you shouldn't give yourself credit for the progress already made! you've come very far and you should be proud of yourself! We're very proud of you too 🥰
I mean, if convicted of murder over here in the UK then it's a mandatory life sentence. Like the courts literally cannot give *_any_* other sentence as a result. (Granted the minimum time to be served can be as little as 15 years before being considered for parole so "life imprisonment" doesn't necessarily mean life but considering places like Japan have a minimum sentence of as little as 5 years then it's "strict" by comparison...)
I’m very amazed at how much Gemma was caught on surveillance and she didn’t give a small thought about it. Also when they arrested her at her home for possible murder, she wasn’t even phased or shocked.
I THOUGHT I heard he say "What?" as they told her why she was being arrested. Weather she did or did not say "what" I agree with everyone here. Her surprise was very short lived and she obviously became aware of her situation very quickly. If I did heat "what" it probably came from "what? How? I covered my tracks so well!" Ahhh no you didn't.
I don't have paranoid schizophrenia, but I do have something called schizophrenic affective disorder. Long story short, the voices in my head and the occasional visual hallucination I have are something I know and understand to be not real. They're like imaginary friends I created out of loneliness as a kid who have never really left me. I'm super simplifying things here because there's more to it than that but that's not my point. Schizophrenic disorders are awful, and in general are horribly misunderstood by many people. Please, I beg of all of you, be kinder to each other out there. You never truly know and appreciate what seone else might be going through unless you really know them. Thanks for another excellent video! I appreciate the way you handle things for the victis and their families and friends.❤️
I have a friend with the disorder and he is brilliantly stoic about taking his meds , much as he hates it. As a friend he is a sweety, fun and interesting. Sometimes he looses it a bit with me, and I find it upsetting but it is always worth forgetting when he chirps up.
At first I assumed Deborah was supposed to be the perpetrator, but when her friend said she took a sudden trip back to Malaysia I was like "OH, nevermind."
London is so stacked with cameras that are also high quality its insane, you can literally track a persons exact moves no matter where they go. Very impressive but also very dystopian and scary if it were to be exploited for the wrong reasons
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I do believe that the popo can just scan your car plates if you have a valid insurance, otherwise they’d boot and impound it.
Agreed, and most definitely it is, and will continue to be in the wrong hands. There's going to be a creep of even more surveillance and digital measures for control the movement and choices of the population. Only have to look at the concept of 15 minute cities they are implementing in Oxford to see.
Adrian really dropped the "fucking snake" at the end I LOVE IT! I love the respect and diligence towards the research and understanding of every case you cover- while also actually sharing with us a totally humane reaction to someone actually murdering an innocent human 👍
@@clareinglesbywood4863 right! I watch way too much true crime content on UA-cam and I think sometimes hours of someone factually reporting something so vile while not sharing a blip of their own opinion can make you feel like you are watching a robot. Esp. when they don't show their face while they speak (no shade to those youtubers either, just an observation)
I LOVE YOUR NEW TAGLINE!! "Coffeehouse Crime is all about posting true crime and strange cases with a caffeinated twist" - sums up your channel perfectly!
It feels so nice to have been here from then to watch this channel grow. I'm very proud of Adrian and his consistency, and the excellent content he posts.
I remember finding him, binging all his recommended videos and wanted to see more but he only had 5 videos. It wasn't even that long ago... Adrian put some serious effort in his channel and I'm so happy to have seen him grow
@@lawrencelopez9839 the house, altough maybe not her own was worth 4 million pounds. so in what way can you argue she wasn't rich? if anything it was a cash-flow problem, but that does not mean she wasn't a "rich woman"
Anyone claiming grand talents such as “spiritual healer” should be suspect. Saddest thing here is there doesn’t seem to have been anyone in close enough to Debra to be aware of Gemma’s influence. A sharp person would have picked up bad vibes from Gemma and kept a close eye on Debra.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 This argument doesn't make much sense to me, you'd have thought Jesus was some crazy guy back in the day too, walking around talking about miracles, being the son of a god, you'd think he was nuts.
It hurts seeing that first picture of the woman (Mee) at the start, to think an fragile woman like that had such a terrible thing happen to her. She looks so kind in that picture:(
It is always highly suspicious when a "friend" of a missing person comes forward telling everybody who will listen that that person had moved far away without telling anybody, apart from themselves of course.
He did good but he skipped some really interesting parts like when she busted through her deceased neighbors bedroom window and all the stuff she stole and what she did with everything. Unfortunately he covered the bare minimum on that part. It would have added the extra context to just how much more calculated her scheme really was. Poor Deborah. Gemma is damn lucky she walked away with only a broken finger. I wish Deb could have injured Gemma as badly as Gemma got her. RIP
Thank you for subtitling what the police woman said when Jemma was arrested. She spoke so fast and swallowed the words so I struggled to understand what was being said. PS: I love your way of sneaking in a curse word or two in such a way that we don't notice it until a second later XD
It's crazy that as you're going about your day as usual or even drinking your tea, someone out there could be facing their demise at the hands of someone they trusted.
Or passing by someone who could be carrying a bag with a person inside it. That seemed eerie to me, that she was wheeling suitcases and there's a body in it.
Gemma is a combination of greed & selfishness, not to mention a dimwit as well. How did she expect to get away with this murder after walking with a suitcase/s & being captured on CCTV all over the town? How did she expect to forge a will and inherit everything without it being scrutinized? As I said, greedy & dumb... RIP Mee Kuen Chong!
@Eternally Profound some people get a kick,. Think about it, she hated this woman because she had not given her 200k,. She must have beheaded the woman and then played with the head and all that, like American psycho Bateman
The way she fakes being shocked and surprised at her house, she knows she's fucked up but if she acts all innocent then it won't go against her. I remember this case, I watched a lot of it with my mother and the way she was acting was pathetic, it looked like she was barely even listening.
I always hate when people make a judgement of guilty or not just by facial expressions. Some people (like me) have resting b face, others have botox done and some people even manage to control themselves :P
I've met people like her, some of them had done truly horrendous things but it's always the same act: slightly sleepy, slightly amazed, fake sweet voice ("oh what happened?"), so so innocent and meek. That's the kind of people I can't stand the most. That fake meekness while knowing the horrors they've done leaves me trembling with anger every time. And yes, they do have a vile temper underneath it all, sparkling from time to time. I'd rather deal with someone openly violent and nasty than these fakes
I just randomly found this channel and I been watching case after case now. What sets you apart is your care in making the story abt the victims and showing them humanity and letting us know how they were as individuals. I appreciate that and I’m sure the victims loved ones do as well.
Adrian, you have a gift for storytelling! And even better, a genuine sympathy for the victims and families. There are many creators that cover stories like these, but few, if any, seem to honestly feel for those who have suffered. Thank you for all the content my friend, it's brilliant!
I love how you give the backstory and not just the actual crime. And you focus more on the victims rather than the perpetrator which I think gives a voice to those that are no longer here to tell it for themselves ❤
@@lynne1517 I couldn't believe her calmness once the police had broken down her door. Her first words were HOW ARE YOU, WHAT!!! I would be in rage saying what in the world are you doing busting down my door. She knew she was in deep trouble. If she's innercent as her daft mother believes then why did she say no comment to every question put to her. That was her big moment to explain what had happened.
I really appreciate that when you are arrested in the UK you are told that anything you say will be put into evidence. Versus the US where you are told anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. Why the US gotta be so aggressive about it?? Another well done video Adrien, thank you!
Because the US has a far more share of crazies. It's also the reason why police are more aggressive there, with countless cases of criminals shooting back at the cops, they cannot keep their guards down.
It's the exact same thing. They are called synonyms and anyone with half a brain knows that "anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" and "anything you say will be used in evidence against you" means the exact same thing
What are you talking about.... it means the same thing.... just say you like how things sound in a British accent (like the rest of us) and move on lol 'evidence' is 'used against you in court' anywhere in the world
1000 Views in 4 minutes! Glad to see a wholesome Adrian and his cute cat doing so well on a platform where such views can be really difficult to garner. Much respect to the team behind the pretty face as well. Great channel and great to have seen it grow.
@@CoffeehouseCrime I have been a loyal fan of you since early January of 2021 when I first discoverd your channel with only a thousands sub, love the development and achievement throughout the year, thank you for keeping your viewers entertain with these solved cases.
Deborah really was logical is advising that Gemma sell the house. Her life did ‘t need to end for laying out the truth. The description of the house really raised red flags. Sure renovations were needed but all the broken furniture and trash didn’t need any money to clear out. Do it over time with the regular trash collections. Gemma’s entitlement and greed resulted in such a horrible crime.
Yes, exactly! I started out as a young single mom we lived in a ratty trailer and didn’t have much but it was home. I always tried to keep it clean and homey. I worked my butt off being poor is often a state of mind. As my grandmother would say being poor is not an excuse to be dirty or lazy. How absolutely outrageous. A few years of hard work I started a business. now I not only have a nice home, a decent car, and even invested in a nice rental property. This woman has zero excuse how evil.
Oh my god, I had been working on a house in Salcombe when this all happened and the CCTV footage of the car entering and exiting the area is the EXACT house I was working on. It’s scary to think about the lengths people will go to commit such heinous acts. My heart goes out to the families, I hope they’re able to find peace in the future.
@@MonaLisaVitoJust because you can’t comprehend or understand, doesn’t make it weird. Also that’s your ego talking, thinking like you know everything, you don’t! Sorry to say haha
this really hits close to my heart as a Malaysian who studied and lived in London for years. It's so sad that someone would take advantage of a vulnerable woman like that, and when she doesn't get what she wants to commit such a heinous deed to someone who considered her a friend.
I don’t think nationality has any great weight in this awful crime. The fact is a very nasty, evil women took advantage of a lovely warm hearted women..
Being old, sick and alone can be desperate in many ways… the govt could appoint you a guardian and take away everything you have once the doctor decides you re incapable to take care of yourself, that is it, really!!!
I was just telling my husband that Coffeehouse Crime needs to cover this after seeing this case in the news- thank you for this Adrian! Really love your videos! Rest in peace Deborah😢💖
Shocked and disgusted by this vile crime.. also on a side note; the woman who notified the authorities about finding a body sounded like she was asking for directions to the nearest post office- how weird was that?! For a second or two I thought it was Jemma calling..Thanks Adrian, respectful as always, love your channel.
One of the biggest mistakes Mee Kuen made was to reveal to her that she could afford to lend her that large amount of money to repair her house (although she later changed her mind). Once that psycho found out that she had that much money to spare, she put her plan in motion. 34 years (starting from 2022) is long long time, but justice was served.
It's such a shame all around. I have the belief that, no matter how well or close you are with a friend or family member, don't tell anyone about how much you have, even if it's "just" $500. People have been killed over less sadly True, it can be good to help people occasionally, so if someone chooses to: Be smart about what you say and be firm with boundaries from the beginning
It's so interesting to me how Gemma felt so entitled to money that she was not at all owed from someone who trusted her dearly that she killed her and then treated her body so poorly. Like that's crazy to me, who are you to think you deserve that money? There was no reason Deborah had to give you that money, literally none, she was just making an offer as a friend which she rightfully changed her mind on. Gemma should've done what Deborah had suggested and sold the piece of junk house and downgraded to something a more quaint and less run down. The entitlement and denial this woman has scares me, honest.
Just because someone is well to do does not mean that they must donate all their funds. It’s kind of they do. But you can not murder and rob someone. That is so so entitled like you said. I’m so dissappointed in humanity. Especially someone who seems like a regular normal Upstanding citizen. Who can we trust?
I love it when you get so disgusted that you speak your mind and let us know how you REALLY feel. It’s nice to see that kind of honesty and I agree with you 100%. As always, another great video. My only complaint is that they aren’t longer.
The fact she gave them some story like "she went to visit her family for a year"... not thinking this lady was worthy enough for authorities to check in on the story she provided and do their own research to validate that what she was saying was true or not is baffling to me. Smh this woman is heartless and evil😤
On that note, Sir... please don't swear like that. You have a really, really nice channel with over a million subscribers spanning the full spectrum. You don't want to throw it all away because of bad language. Otherwise, your channel is tops and I wish you all the very best.
Adrian, I nearly choked on my tea when you said she was always a fecking snake! So unexpected I had to laugh. Thanks for your always well researched and sensitive storytelling.
To be honest,this channel was a random click for me almost a year ago and since then I've been hooked... This lad is sincere,honest,empathetic and he's a fantastic storyteller!!! I have honestly become a huge fan ,I watch as many episodes as I can and I honestly do hope he has a positive outlet for dealing with so much negativity...if you ever need an ear my friend, your Coffee is on Me, Cheers!!!!
The amount of ease with which you pronounce names and cities is phenomenal! It shows me that you’re extremely dedicated to what you do, and take the time to learn how to properly pronounce names/places! ❤
I feel so sorry for the innocent people who end up finding victims of violent crime. How traumatic to be going along with your day and coming across a dead body, an injured person or body parts. I've witnessed one car accident with injuries and one near drowning & they will stick with me the rest of my life.
44k views in 2 hours!! How far you've come man and you're still doing great content!! Thank you again for sharing a story close to home I really do look forward to your story telling every week!!!
I'm just about to start watching this but wanted to quickly say how glad I am you're covering this horrific crime as I'd only heard mention of it for the first time the day the sentencing portion was televised in our first ever look into an actual sentencing in the UK. And the judge spoke so well. We don't get that in the US. Edit for a top-up ~ Just finished it. You covered it well but... and here comes a tiny critique ~ I wish you'd have put in about 3 more minutes of information to cover what & why she broke into her deceased neighbors house/bedroom. She rummaged through all his documents and grabbed his passport, banking statements, his old mobile that was not active then took it all back home where she practiced forging his signature AND another person's signature on the bogus WILL to declare she was given 95% of Deborah's valued estate and then the final 5% to her own mother. Then she called the mobile company claiming she was the deceased person & had them activated it. She then rented the car in that name. I'm sure I've skipped something but you definately could have covered all this extra stuff. It would have helped us see just how much more calculated she really was. You still did very good, of course, Adrian and I appreciate it! Hope you have a great weekend 💛
As a Malaysian, I didn't recall that this case ever broadcast in our mainstream media. Initially heard you mentioned the name intrigued to know more since the names sound familiar as people coming from Malaysia or Singapore at least.
Thank you for always making such great content with some serious research! As a viewer I can tell you put tons of time into what you do and it makes watching your channel a pleasure!
Adrian.. I'm soo glad to hear you tell this story! I've been an avid listener of yours for a couple of years now, and when this story of My Home Town came to light, I wanted You of all Yts to tell it. There's not too many details on this story but you told it so well and didn't add in misinformation. Thank you and well done on your growing success. Much love from Devon 💕
ENJOYED THE CLEAR AND EASY STYLE OF DELIVERY FROM THE HOST AND BACKGROUND THIS IS THE THIRD ONE I HAVE WATCHED I HAD SUBSCRIBED BUT FOUND TODAY I WAS NOT SO DID IT AGAIN HAPPY HOLIDAYS
I had somehow missed this case since I was mourning the passing of my father at the time. He had passed away from Ealing not far from Wembley where we used to go for Indian clothes shopping. Thank you so much for this great video Adrian. May justice be served to Jemma and may Deborah rest in peace 🙏🏼❤️🇬🇧!
I really appreciate that you covered such a fresh case. Also, I currently live in the UK and your video is the first time i hear about this case, so it's even more shocking.
In which world would a person with relatives in Malaysia live everything she had to you, even with mental health challenges. That was still gonna be a huge red flag. The fact that Debra canceled the 200k loan/gift shows that she was not crazy with all the challenges she had.
Thank you Adrian, you are doing a fantastic job. 👏 Even as a listen to the crime stories you tell, I am also learning from your style of speaking, I love English-English.
Your "fucking snake" at the end totally caught me off guard Lol but was really just the perfect description of Gemma..so entitled to something she had no right to be..im so glad she was also incredibly stupid too putting herself all over CCTV Deborah was beautiful and vulnerable and in no way deserved to be caught up with this vile woman..thank you for covering this Adrian 💜
This is horrible and tragic. I offer my condolences. Her boarder is a good man for caring enough about her to call the police right away, good sense of forethought.
Hi Adrian, love to see the kitty, he's so cute! Jemma was so cold-hearted deserves her punishment. I hope this haunts her for the rest of her days! Horrific what she did to Mee Kuen. When their friendship went sour, yes, it looks like greed took over.
Binge watching your channel whilst being bed bound due to a mega flare-up (chronic pain conditions). Thank you for excellent content! And may all the victims rest in peace. 💔❤️
I really love how respectful the police are there. When they bust down the door and she said "hello" the officer's tone of voice with "hello there" was just so nice and calm and he still took the time to let her know that he was "good and she didn't answer" lol. Wow I wish they were like that here in the states.
I saw this come up on the news last week and I said to my partner "That'll be on Coffeehouse Crime soon." Thank you for covering it and keep up the great videos, we love relaxing and watching them. :)
I really want to know more about Gemma, what was she like in Australia? Has she been involved in fraud or any criminal activity before? How long was she jobless when she returned to England? How did the whole family struggle pay for the property if they was previously wealthy?....so many questions but ultimately sad case, RIP to Deborah and love and light to her family, friends, especially her neighbours and the church members.
This is so sad .I'm just so surprised that this is recent. Meaning such people do still exist among us .I can't comprehend how one can take a life .The fear is not there anymore 😕 People are not afraid to kill let alone do the unthinkable. It's like we live with a void which is filled with darkness and evil !And even then I have prayed for God to come right away because its getting too much.But I know this is only the beginning, I just pray I am strong enough to endure evil and conquer it. So sad that Deborah had such a tragic ending .May her soul rest in peace. Thank you for covering this as well.
Omg! I found you on UA-cam and you have great content!! I’m so impressed 😊and your voice calms me down. We lived in England 🏴 for 5 yrs so I’m think your from there. Best days of my life!! Thank you so much ☺️
The woman who found the body is calmer during the emergency call than I am before a call with my boss-
Meditate..
I thought so too. In America that would appear "suspicious " 😃🇮🇲
Keep calm and carry on
was just gonna say , she sounds so cheery and casual like ordering a pizza.
@@FranklinCrew cause they're "Bri'ish", not US Americans...
“She always was a fucking snake” you never fail to make me chuckle at some point during your videos Adrian, job well done as always
And with his Accent, 🤣
Such a morbid story but this line made me giggle ahaha, good shit👌
The way my jaw dropped on that comment! 😂🙌
Haha..Me too..With his accent and how serious he looks it makes it more funny...He looks like an innocent guy that never cusses 🤣😂
That just hit me out of nowhere too! But hilarious!
Imagine having your door smashed in by police in the middle of the night, being cuffed and told you're under arrest for murder and your reaction amounts to little more than "oooh...okay...can i put my shoes on?"
How else would you react? What is the point in freaking out or reacting in any other way than that?
It's wild how they go from trying to break down the door, to the most polite exchange during an arrest.
@@Raoul.Because if you were innocent, you’d be totally shocked and confused
@@AW-kr9fl don't forget that everyone has different reactions. I don't think that every innocent person would necessary be shocked and confused. Furthermore, having this reaction does not necessarily mean that the person is innocent.
@Raoul.
Sure, if you're guilty, you act like that
But if you're innocent, you start screaming....what the hell are you talking about?
That's how you know when someone is guilty. They just act calm and accepting because they know they did it, and they're caught
One of my favourite things about this channel is that he doesn’t give attention to the murderes but instead the victims making the story about them. Respect ❤️
The victims are not as interesting though since they are normal people. Murderers are anything but normal and are therefore more interesting.
Btw, a comment like yours has already been posted on every single video in this channel, is it really necessary to post it every damn time?
@@michaelkjellander9370 Yeah I can see that but it seems lots of true crime UA-camrs plaster the killer's name or the name of the crime as a way to generate interest. At that point, it seems scummy to me. Like they don't really care about the victims and just used their situation to profit off of.
@@visassess8607 Yes, it is in bad taste, but it works and Coffeehouse isn't really an exception in that regard. I've been ashamed for liking true crime so much, but what's most interesting about true crime for me is the police investigations. Finding the culprit and securing evidence.
@mail man alright, sorry about that, but why are you calling me Mr CEO of Reddit? Please explain 🙂
@@visassess8607 We dont care about the victims. This is all pire entertainment. Just being honest
It’s crazy how she never thought the CCTV capital of the world was going to catch her every move. Such a heartbreaking story.
Watched quite a few and alot of their crimes were all on camera. These people must think they are super smart and others are so damn stupid.
the first rule of murder is to not know the victim. She was never going to get away with this.
..London isnt the CCTV capital of the world..that honour goes to Ryiad in Saudi Arabia..closely followed by Dubai in the UAE - surveillance systems installed by British companies though.
Thats what we know as documented - i might suggest Beijing is also at the top of the list
@@JC-zv3cv London is the most watched city in the world sweetheart and that’s a fact.
@@jamjamlove3634 Shenzhen, China has 234% more cctv cameras per capita than London. Chongqing, China has 245% more cctv cameras per capita than London. London is indeed in the top 10 surveilled cities in the world, but far from the most watched.
She honestly could have sold that house, found a nice two bedroom flat for herself and mom, gone back to school for a career change and started her life over. Was she that attached to her old house? So sad
Hello Sandra, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the Virus??
Study for open a businnes will be a much better start move.
Considering the fact that ppl work all their life to buy a house. She probably didn't want to go through the trouble if she had already bought it in cash. Maybe she thought no one was going to question her since she is privileged.
It's difficult moving from a house to a flat. You also hafta have somewhere to live as soon as the house sells. If she didn't have money then she would need rent security before the house sold... It ain't that easy but still nothing to kill over
I cannot help but think that something happened in Australia like being found to have committed professional misconduct which barred her from continuing in her profession , hence she went back to the UK.
Worst part of this is how a complete absolute hellish monster like Gemma, could present herself like a normal regular human being. People are scary. RIP Deborah.
The thing is.. it was a human. Humans are capable of vile things as prove that humans can be monsters time and time again. It’s an unfortunate, undeniable truth that people need to realize.
if you are gonna do a murder, you're gonna have a plan to get away with it!
I think she had 2 suitcases and hired a car that mirrored a car she had access to!
police should check for her finger prints on the back side of the number plates of the hired car
The worst part is that Brits can't tell the difference between "life imprisonment" and "34 years." Yeah I know she "might not get out" but why not just make a decisions? It's either final or it's not. If there is no reasonable doubt then why should the judge have doubts about the sentence? It's not like anything she does in prison matters.
She is a sociopath.
But look at the kind of person that she chose to warm up to?!? She probably used the whole living with her elderly mother to play on her emotions (being that she was an elderly woman......that wasn't around or living with family). She probably also made it her business to find out all that she could about her, in order to present herself like some knight in shining armour (hence why she was pretending to heal her). I can't stand low lives that come with pretenses to people that they either know things about/believe they know things about them or believe that they know who they are by sizing them up. Unfortunately, that elderly woman had opened up herself to her and allowed a degenerate to get way too close. To the point that she believed that she could take whatever she desired from her. Alot of folk don't realize that guilt isn't some random "emotion" that happens when you know that you are wrong, being that you've aimed to harm someone. It's more or less a reminder that they're not the only one aware of what they've done. That woman's deadly experience needs to haunt her every morning that she rises. Every thing that she did to inflict pain and remove breath from that woman's Life, needs to stay on repeat.
In my opinion Adrian, you have achieved top honors in storytelling! Keep up the good work.
I particularly like how he saves what few expletives he uses for the perfect moments.
thank you! But still a lot to improve on in my opinion :)
@@CoffeehouseCrime I think you're good enough for us 😎
@@CoffeehouseCrime You're welcome. Your style is unique and compelling. It's always a treat when I see a new vid you posted.
@@CoffeehouseCrime there's always improvements to be made but that doesn't mean you shouldn't give yourself credit for the progress already made! you've come very far and you should be proud of yourself! We're very proud of you too 🥰
Jemma is a total piece of work. This actually a first murder case in UK that has a reasonable sentence. Most seem appallingly lenient. RIP Debra.
Agreed!
I mean, if convicted of murder over here in the UK then it's a mandatory life sentence. Like the courts literally cannot give *_any_* other sentence as a result.
(Granted the minimum time to be served can be as little as 15 years before being considered for parole so "life imprisonment" doesn't necessarily mean life but considering places like Japan have a minimum sentence of as little as 5 years then it's "strict" by comparison...)
Yall throw everyone in rehab shut up@@Macephtopheles
I’m very amazed at how much Gemma was caught on surveillance and she didn’t give a small thought about it. Also when they arrested her at her home for possible murder, she wasn’t even phased or shocked.
Sad and pathetic to ruin a life and kill somebody all for what money . And debroah even told her to enjoy her life it's short :( poor girl
You see it on her face for a moment but she knows she's not a genius so it was only a moment
@@lisavanderpump7475 bb I. K ohio oh I nbkbmb
Not the first case documented by CCTVs.
People don't think about them...
I THOUGHT I heard he say "What?" as they told her why she was being arrested. Weather she did or did not say "what" I agree with everyone here. Her surprise was very short lived and she obviously became aware of her situation very quickly. If I did heat "what" it probably came from "what? How? I covered my tracks so well!" Ahhh no you didn't.
I don't have paranoid schizophrenia, but I do have something called schizophrenic affective disorder. Long story short, the voices in my head and the occasional visual hallucination I have are something I know and understand to be not real. They're like imaginary friends I created out of loneliness as a kid who have never really left me. I'm super simplifying things here because there's more to it than that but that's not my point. Schizophrenic disorders are awful, and in general are horribly misunderstood by many people. Please, I beg of all of you, be kinder to each other out there. You never truly know and appreciate what seone else might be going through unless you really know them. Thanks for another excellent video! I appreciate the way you handle things for the victis and their families and friends.❤️
I have a friend with visual hallucinations. He finds that using his camera on his phone is the best way to tell what is real and what is fake
Wellcome to England were psiquiatras don’t see patients with mental illness unless in this case possible now the person is eligible 😔😔
Find professional help.
Hope you not using drugs
I have a friend with the disorder and he is brilliantly stoic about taking his meds , much as he hates it. As a friend he is a sweety, fun and interesting. Sometimes he looses it a bit with me, and I find it upsetting but it is always worth forgetting when he chirps up.
@@janechanning984 becareful though, he can snap anytime
At first I assumed Deborah was supposed to be the perpetrator, but when her friend said she took a sudden trip back to Malaysia I was like "OH, nevermind."
Yep...anyone who mentions a 'sudden trip overseas' knows too much.
Even Jemma emage you cann't think of her being the killer
Of course you would assume the minority ethnic woman to be the perp. 😂
London is so stacked with cameras that are also high quality its insane, you can literally track a persons exact moves no matter where they go. Very impressive but also very dystopian and scary if it were to be exploited for the wrong reasons
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I do believe that the popo can just scan your car plates if you have a valid insurance, otherwise they’d boot and impound it.
@jpman2173 ANPR, not for insurance (in usa) but can be used to scan for missing people or stolen cars, and also in database for a while
Agreed, and most definitely it is, and will continue to be in the wrong hands. There's going to be a creep of even more surveillance and digital measures for control the movement and choices of the population. Only have to look at the concept of 15 minute cities they are implementing in Oxford to see.
If you have committed no crime what is the issue .CCTV/ Smartphones and DNA are the three biggest tools in helping track the evil scum ...
Name wrong reasons
Adrian really dropped the "fucking snake" at the end I LOVE IT! I love the respect and diligence towards the research and understanding of every case you cover- while also actually sharing with us a totally humane reaction to someone actually murdering an innocent human 👍
Shocked me 😮😂
I came here looking for this comment lol I loved hearing it, even scrolled back to hear it again 😂
He did this on the libby squire video too. Summed up my feeling and that's when I subscribed.
@@darkunicornblood5140 I could listen to him say it a hundred times NGL
@@clareinglesbywood4863 right! I watch way too much true crime content on UA-cam and I think sometimes hours of someone factually reporting something so vile while not sharing a blip of their own opinion can make you feel like you are watching a robot. Esp. when they don't show their face while they speak (no shade to those youtubers either, just an observation)
I LOVE YOUR NEW TAGLINE!! "Coffeehouse Crime is all about posting true crime and strange cases with a caffeinated twist" - sums up your channel perfectly!
That was the calmest, most polite emergency call... 👁👄👁
legit, sounding like she's still in her chill mode from her walk
I felt like it was probably shock
Probably was by shock
She sounds a bit confused which is not surprising. Then again the body was in a state where she could be sure that there was nothing to be done
I have ordered pizza with more fervent energy than what she called in a decapitated body with.
I remember when you had less than 100k subs 😢 super proud of you and your progress! Thank you for the original production and fantastic methodologies
Same! This channel grew so fast, and understandably so, Adrian is the best. I love this channel and it's community.
It feels so nice to have been here from then to watch this channel grow. I'm very proud of Adrian and his consistency, and the excellent content he posts.
I remember finding him, binging all his recommended videos and wanted to see more but he only had 5 videos. It wasn't even that long ago...
Adrian put some serious effort in his channel and I'm so happy to have seen him grow
same! i discovered Adrian when he had like 5 videos out, couldn’t believe it bc his production has been impeccable since day one
that was the nicest, most polite arrest of all time
It's a rich woman what do you expect
How are you? I'm well thank you...please put your arms out so I can handcuff them. Thank you.
@@ScarlettRoseOfficial I feel like murdering someone else for money isn't something a rich woman would do
@@lawrencelopez9839 the house, altough maybe not her own was worth 4 million pounds. so in what way can you argue she wasn't rich? if anything it was a cash-flow problem, but that does not mean she wasn't a "rich woman"
@@gurraber you answered your own question. If the house isn't her own then...
Anyone claiming grand talents such as “spiritual healer” should be suspect. Saddest thing here is there doesn’t seem to have been anyone in close enough to Debra to be aware of Gemma’s influence. A sharp person would have picked up bad vibes from Gemma and kept a close eye on Debra.
Jesus warned to be careful of false prophets
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 This argument doesn't make much sense to me, you'd have thought Jesus was some crazy guy back in the day too, walking around talking about miracles, being the son of a god, you'd think he was nuts.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 I wish Jesus warned against dudes that jerk off to mlp
@@sampeacock3819 Sad little troll
@@crabmansteve6844 He preformed miracles
It hurts seeing that first picture of the woman (Mee) at the start, to think an fragile woman like that had such a terrible thing happen to her. She looks so kind in that picture:(
I'm praying she fought in regards to the broken finger! At least I smiled when I saw the perp with her injury waiting to be looked at ..
It is always highly suspicious when a "friend" of a missing person comes forward telling everybody who will listen that that person had moved far away without telling anybody, apart from themselves of course.
I love how you articulate yourself and you always offer your condolences to those lost. Excellently researched and well done.
He did good but he skipped some really interesting parts like when she busted through her deceased neighbors bedroom window and all the stuff she stole and what she did with everything. Unfortunately he covered the bare minimum on that part. It would have added the extra context to just how much more calculated her scheme really was. Poor Deborah. Gemma is damn lucky she walked away with only a broken finger. I wish Deb could have injured Gemma as badly as Gemma got her.
RIP
Thank you for subtitling what the police woman said when Jemma was arrested. She spoke so fast and swallowed the words so I struggled to understand what was being said. PS: I love your way of sneaking in a curse word or two in such a way that we don't notice it until a second later XD
I love it too when he lets a curse word or two slip out!! It completely gets his point across, doesn't it?! 😅
Yes! Me too! I smiled when I saw your comment. So subtle.
It’s a great epitaph for her stone head ‘throughout her life, she’s always been a fxxking snake.
Literally... Had to rewind I was like did I really hear that?!😅
Are you women for real? Lift your standards of speech.
It's crazy that as you're going about your day as usual or even drinking your tea, someone out there could be facing their demise at the hands of someone they trusted.
Or passing by someone who could be carrying a bag with a person inside it. That seemed eerie to me, that she was wheeling suitcases and there's a body in it.
Its so sad and heart breaking
Gemma is a combination of greed & selfishness, not to mention a dimwit as well. How did she expect to get away with this murder after walking with a suitcase/s & being captured on CCTV all over the town? How did she expect to forge a will and inherit everything without it being scrutinized? As I said, greedy & dumb... RIP Mee Kuen Chong!
I see a vile woman who is nothing but evil.
@Eternally Profound some people get a kick,. Think about it, she hated this woman because she had not given her 200k,. She must have beheaded the woman and then played with the head and all that, like American psycho Bateman
Dimwit 😂😂 I love that word.
You're right though. Evil isn't smart.
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@Eternally Profound I don't think this monster had any remorse, in fact I think she sleeps well at night after committing a murder.
The way she fakes being shocked and surprised at her house, she knows she's fucked up but if she acts all innocent then it won't go against her. I remember this case, I watched a lot of it with my mother and the way she was acting was pathetic, it looked like she was barely even listening.
I always hate when people make a judgement of guilty or not just by facial expressions. Some people (like me) have resting b face, others have botox done and some people even manage to control themselves :P
I've met people like her, some of them had done truly horrendous things but it's always the same act: slightly sleepy, slightly amazed, fake sweet voice ("oh what happened?"), so so innocent and meek. That's the kind of people I can't stand the most. That fake meekness while knowing the horrors they've done leaves me trembling with anger every time. And yes, they do have a vile temper underneath it all, sparkling from time to time.
I'd rather deal with someone openly violent and nasty than these fakes
The way she walked around with a corpse in her suitcase done it for me.
@@jamielee7404 YES 🙌 That stupid baby voice she uses to try and evade guilt made my blood boil!
I just randomly found this channel and I been watching case after case now. What sets you apart is your care in making the story abt the victims and showing them humanity and letting us know how they were as individuals. I appreciate that and I’m sure the victims loved ones do as well.
Adrian, you have a gift for storytelling! And even better, a genuine sympathy for the victims and families. There are many creators that cover stories like these, but few, if any, seem to honestly feel for those who have suffered. Thank you for all the content my friend, it's brilliant!
Police: BANG BANG BANG *door opens
“Hello there”
😅😅 they are so polite in the UK even when confronting a murderer. I love it!
Respect
I love how you give the backstory and not just the actual crime. And you focus more on the victims rather than the perpetrator which I think gives a voice to those that are no longer here to tell it for themselves ❤
That's the most British Police raid I've ever seen! "Oh hello, how are you" So polite! Lol Another interesting video X
unfortunately our police are about as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
😂😂😂
@@lynne1517 I couldn't believe her calmness once the police had broken down her door. Her first words were HOW ARE YOU, WHAT!!!
I would be in rage saying what in the world are you doing busting down my door.
She knew she was in deep trouble.
If she's innercent as her daft mother believes then why did she say no comment to every question put to her. That was her big moment to explain what had happened.
I really appreciate that when you are arrested in the UK you are told that anything you say will be put into evidence. Versus the US where you are told anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. Why the US gotta be so aggressive about it?? Another well done video Adrien, thank you!
Because the US has a far more share of crazies. It's also the reason why police are more aggressive there, with countless cases of criminals shooting back at the cops, they cannot keep their guards down.
The US is aggressive with Christianity
It's the exact same thing. They are called synonyms and anyone with half a brain knows that "anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" and "anything you say will be used in evidence against you" means the exact same thing
What are you talking about.... it means the same thing.... just say you like how things sound in a British accent (like the rest of us) and move on lol 'evidence' is 'used against you in court' anywhere in the world
1000 Views in 4 minutes! Glad to see a wholesome Adrian and his cute cat doing so well on a platform where such views can be really difficult to garner. Much respect to the team behind the pretty face as well. Great channel and great to have seen it grow.
Thank you! Nero says thanks too 🐾
Yeah this shows how eager we are for his content as soon as we see a notification from him we click.
@@CoffeehouseCrime I have been a loyal fan of you since early January of 2021 when I first discoverd your channel with only a thousands sub, love the development and achievement throughout the year, thank you for keeping your viewers entertain with these solved cases.
Lot of losers without life , watching others lives
Click, click, colic
Deborah really was logical is advising that Gemma sell the house. Her life did ‘t need to end for laying out the truth. The description of the house really raised red flags. Sure renovations were needed but all the broken furniture and trash didn’t need any money to clear out. Do it over time with the regular trash collections. Gemma’s entitlement and greed resulted in such a horrible crime.
Totally. Not dumping trash is just pure negligence, but not lack of money. This woman is LAZY.
Yes, exactly! I started out as a young single mom we lived in a ratty trailer and didn’t have much but it was home. I always tried to keep it clean and homey. I worked my butt off being poor is often a state of mind. As my grandmother would say being poor is not an excuse to be dirty or lazy. How absolutely outrageous. A few years of hard work I started a business. now I not only have a nice home, a decent car, and even invested in a nice rental property. This woman has zero excuse how evil.
As a Malaysian, this case was new to me.
Thanks Adrian for covering this. 🥰
Oh my god, I had been working on a house in Salcombe when this all happened and the CCTV footage of the car entering and exiting the area is the EXACT house I was working on. It’s scary to think about the lengths people will go to commit such heinous acts. My heart goes out to the families, I hope they’re able to find peace in the future.
@Cian MacGana wow!
@Cian MacGana 😂😂😂
😬😬😬😱 to think you were right there while this horrific crime occured.
@Cian MacGana um. Newsflash. Women can be builders too. Just FYI.
@Cian MacGana Aww, it's cute that you think being sexist is a fun way to troll. Grow up.
Please remember that being a spiritualist or ‘spiritual’ person and being a Christian are completely different.
Ahem to that
Both terms describe someone who believes in fairy tales, same difference
@@BananaCake26 like the fairy tale that reality exploded out of absolutely nothing for no reason 😂 idk which is easier to believe
Yeah being spiritual is a lot better
@@MonaLisaVitoJust because you can’t comprehend or understand, doesn’t make it weird. Also that’s your ego talking, thinking like you know everything, you don’t! Sorry to say haha
That call to Emergency services. They were both so calm and polite. 😆 I loved it
this really hits close to my heart as a Malaysian who studied and lived in London for years. It's so sad that someone would take advantage of a vulnerable woman like that, and when she doesn't get what she wants to commit such a heinous deed to someone who considered her a friend.
I don’t think nationality has any great weight in this awful crime. The fact is a very nasty, evil women took advantage of a lovely warm hearted women..
Being old, sick and alone can be desperate in many ways… the govt could appoint you a guardian and take away everything you have once the doctor decides you re incapable to take care of yourself, that is it, really!!!
And look at her mugshot, does any sane human being had that kind of expression after doing such an awful crime?
Kasihan sekali ibu yang ini :( bahaya ini keluar dari luar negri
She was never her friend but only a spawn of Satan. It's sad how dark this world has become. 🥺😔
I was just telling my husband that Coffeehouse Crime needs to cover this after seeing this case in the news- thank you for this Adrian! Really love your videos! Rest in peace Deborah😢💖
The way Gemma said "no comment" really shows how emotionless and evil she is.. she should get the full punishment! May Deborah's soul rest in peace..
Shocked and disgusted by this vile crime.. also on a side note; the woman who notified the authorities about finding a body sounded like she was asking for directions to the nearest post office- how weird was that?! For a second or two I thought it was Jemma calling..Thanks Adrian, respectful as always, love your channel.
I knew a person this calm when I was in London.
Could be shock
She may have been in shock. Everyone reacts differently to a situation like that.
@S.K You must not know any Brits. We are far from calm.
@S.K 😂
One of the biggest mistakes Mee Kuen made was to reveal to her that she could afford to lend her that large amount of money to repair her house (although she later changed her mind). Once that psycho found out that she had that much money to spare, she put her plan in motion. 34 years (starting from 2022) is long long time, but justice was served.
Good point.
Keep your financial affairs private.
It's such a shame all around. I have the belief that, no matter how well or close you are with a friend or family member, don't tell anyone about how much you have, even if it's "just" $500. People have been killed over less sadly
True, it can be good to help people occasionally, so if someone chooses to: Be smart about what you say and be firm with boundaries from the beginning
I'm really amazed by the camera quality, I'm not used to seeing such clear picture in surveillance.
It's so interesting to me how Gemma felt so entitled to money that she was not at all owed from someone who trusted her dearly that she killed her and then treated her body so poorly. Like that's crazy to me, who are you to think you deserve that money? There was no reason Deborah had to give you that money, literally none, she was just making an offer as a friend which she rightfully changed her mind on. Gemma should've done what Deborah had suggested and sold the piece of junk house and downgraded to something a more quaint and less run down.
The entitlement and denial this woman has scares me, honest.
Just because someone is well to do does not mean that they must donate all their funds. It’s kind of they do. But you can not murder and rob someone. That is so so entitled like you said. I’m so dissappointed in humanity. Especially someone who seems like a regular normal
Upstanding citizen. Who can we trust?
ppl like that piss me off 😒 🤬
She was definitely a heartless human being
Narcissism at its finest
Social justice warriors be like
Congrats on your success. Your presentations just get better and better as do the cases you present. Great job.
I love it when you get so disgusted that you speak your mind and let us know how you REALLY feel. It’s nice to see that kind of honesty and I agree with you 100%. As always, another great video. My only complaint is that they aren’t longer.
One of the most frustrating and difficult symptoms of active psychosis is the lack of insight and recognition of one’s own illness.
Love that you show such tenderness towards the victims and the right amount of respect towards the perpetrators, ie NONE. 💜
The fact she gave them some story like "she went to visit her family for a year"... not thinking this lady was worthy enough for authorities to check in on the story she provided and do their own research to validate that what she was saying was true or not is baffling to me. Smh this woman is heartless and evil😤
8:55 that lady is so calm having found a headless dead body 🥺
True bro . I would have freaked out.
@@akshathadayakar3621 exactly!
Probably shock
Probably a doctor or CSI agent who is used to this all
@@reemarimz6830 there are chances
I just love your brutally direct descriptions of the character traits of these viperous criminals.
🎯💯
the F bomb caught me completely off guard at the end LOL
"And as it turns out, she's always been a fucking snake" I'm sorry, but that made me nearly spit out my coffee xD
I LOL'd at that too 😂
LITERALLY got me cracking up at work
Lmaoooooo
On that note, Sir... please don't swear like that. You have a really, really nice channel with over a million subscribers spanning the full spectrum. You don't want to throw it all away because of bad language.
Otherwise, your channel is tops and I wish you all the very best.
@@friendlypiranha774 He's talking about people being murdered 😒 the cuss words aren't worse than that ffs.
Adrian, I nearly choked on my tea when you said she was always a fecking snake! So unexpected I had to laugh. Thanks for your always well researched and sensitive storytelling.
hahaha, same, i did a double take.
This is so British hahaha Love it
😀 I was also not expecting that
To be honest,this channel was a random click for me almost a year ago and since then I've been hooked... This lad is sincere,honest,empathetic and he's a fantastic storyteller!!!
I have honestly become a huge fan
,I watch as many episodes as I can and I honestly do hope he has a positive outlet for dealing with so much negativity...if you ever need an ear my friend, your Coffee is on Me, Cheers!!!!
The raid and arrest is the most british thing I've ever seen. I aim to be this level of calm in any stressful situation!
i guess thats what happens without guns in everyone's face idk
Thank you Adrian. I watch a lot of crime documentaries and this is by far the best. Every episode you post just keeps getting better!
No cap Adrian, you’ve saved my life this year, thank you bro. Much love,
The amount of ease with which you pronounce names and cities is phenomenal! It shows me that you’re extremely dedicated to what you do, and take the time to learn how to properly pronounce names/places! ❤
I agree, so called journalists on news channels regularly butcher proper names, too lazy to take 5 seconds and look it up!
I'm a south African and still can't pronounce the names of my cities pronounced
He couldn't even pronounce the word cadaver properly. He probably should have said corpse instead.
Awesome job yet again Adrian. As a matter of coincidence another content creator released their version of this case yesterday.
@S.K Dark Case Documentaries
It's not a "coincidence" they all bounce the same cases off each other.
I can't watch another crime channel, just because of your voice. So soothing! Thank you for your videos!
Thanks, Adrian.
Another excellent video.
RIP to the woman who lost her life.
The killer must never be released.
I feel so sorry for the innocent people who end up finding victims of violent crime. How traumatic to be going along with your day and coming across a dead body, an injured person or body parts. I've witnessed one car accident with injuries and one near drowning & they will stick with me the rest of my life.
Because you convey professionalism and good-manners, every time you curse, it's a shock.
But never vulgar.
Just shocking.
44k views in 2 hours!! How far you've come man and you're still doing great content!! Thank you again for sharing a story close to home I really do look forward to your story telling every week!!!
1.41m in 19 hours!! Wonderful.
@@marilynsmith365 you're looking at the subs but it's now at almost 400k
I'm just about to start watching this but wanted to quickly say how glad I am you're covering this horrific crime as I'd only heard mention of it for the first time the day the sentencing portion was televised in our first ever look into an actual sentencing in the UK. And the judge spoke so well. We don't get that in the US.
Edit for a top-up ~ Just finished it. You covered it well but... and here comes a tiny critique ~
I wish you'd have put in about 3 more minutes of information to cover what & why she broke into her deceased neighbors house/bedroom. She rummaged through all his documents and grabbed his passport, banking statements, his old mobile that was not active then took it all back home where she practiced forging his signature AND another person's signature on the bogus WILL to declare she was given 95% of Deborah's valued estate and then the final 5% to her own mother. Then she called the mobile company claiming she was the deceased person & had them activated it. She then rented the car in that name. I'm sure I've skipped something but you definately could have covered all this extra stuff. It would have helped us see just how much more calculated she really was. You still did very good, of course, Adrian and I appreciate it! Hope you have a great weekend 💛
Thank you for adding this extra information. I wondered how she got the neighbor's phone.
As a Malaysian, I didn't recall that this case ever broadcast in our mainstream media. Initially heard you mentioned the name intrigued to know more since the names sound familiar as people coming from Malaysia or Singapore at least.
Thank you for always making such great content with some serious research! As a viewer I can tell you put tons of time into what you do and it makes watching your channel a pleasure!
This was only on the news last week! Amazing how quickly you covered this case.
Adrian.. I'm soo glad to hear you tell this story! I've been an avid listener of yours for a couple of years now, and when this story of My Home Town came to light, I wanted You of all Yts to tell it. There's not too many details on this story but you told it so well and didn't add in misinformation. Thank you and well done on your growing success. Much love from Devon 💕
Poor Deborah, this story was heart breaking. RIP!!! ❤️
The miniscule piece of solace was in thinking about Jemma's imprisonment.
Another excellent video Adrian. This is such a sad story and I was impressed by the sentencing of the judge. RIP Deborah and peace to your family.
But 34 years for what she did to that poor woman ? How is this fair
ENJOYED THE CLEAR AND EASY STYLE OF DELIVERY FROM THE HOST AND BACKGROUND THIS IS THE THIRD ONE I HAVE WATCHED I HAD SUBSCRIBED BUT FOUND TODAY I WAS NOT SO DID IT AGAIN HAPPY HOLIDAYS
I always press like button as the story begins. Thank you Adrien.
Come from work, make food and Adrian uploads a video. Day doesn’t get any better
I had somehow missed this case since I was mourning the passing of my father at the time. He had passed away from Ealing not far from Wembley where we used to go for Indian clothes shopping. Thank you so much for this great video Adrian. May justice be served to Jemma and may Deborah rest in peace 🙏🏼❤️🇬🇧!
This Channel and Truly criminal are my favourites, another respectful, calm, articulate, compassionate story rip Mee
I really appreciate that you covered such a fresh case. Also, I currently live in the UK and your video is the first time i hear about this case, so it's even more shocking.
In which world would a person with relatives in Malaysia live everything she had to you, even with mental health challenges. That was still gonna be a huge red flag. The fact that Debra canceled the 200k loan/gift shows that she was not crazy with all the challenges she had.
Thank you Adrian, you are doing a fantastic job. 👏
Even as a listen to the crime stories you tell, I am also learning from your style of speaking, I love English-English.
Same here !!! It helps me out together my college writing paper
Your "fucking snake" at the end totally caught me off guard Lol but was really just the perfect description of Gemma..so entitled to something she had no right to be..im so glad she was also incredibly stupid too putting herself all over CCTV
Deborah was beautiful and vulnerable and in no way deserved to be caught up with this vile woman..thank you for covering this Adrian 💜
I’ve watched this channel grow and you really have put a lot of work time and effort into these videos . Thank you for curing my boredom .
This is horrible and tragic. I offer my condolences. Her boarder is a good man for caring enough about her to call the police right away, good sense of forethought.
" And she was basically screwed at this point" ! Love your attitude over these stories you tell .
Thank you for another great one! I hope Deborah is at peace.
Hi Adrian, love to see the kitty, he's so cute! Jemma was so cold-hearted deserves her punishment. I hope this haunts her for the rest of her days! Horrific what she did to Mee Kuen. When their friendship went sour, yes, it looks like greed took over.
The kitty needs a name:)
I’ve always thought his background was digital & edited into his videos. I’m still not sure that it’s 100% real lol
The cats name is Nero 🥰
Hi I live in Wembley, this is very well covered local crime 👍, thank you and condolences to the family, she was a well loved part of the community.
My student accommodation was in Wembley just down from the stadium! Got robbed at the KFC there! Good times
Good memories getting take away from Ni Hao by the stadium then chilling with it at accommodation
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That's two cases from Wembley he's covered now. The other was the two sister's murdered.
Binge watching your channel whilst being bed bound due to a mega flare-up (chronic pain conditions). Thank you for excellent content!
And may all the victims rest in peace. 💔❤️
The closing statement had me laughing out loud, good job
I really love how respectful the police are there. When they bust down the door and she said "hello" the officer's tone of voice with "hello there" was just so nice and calm and he still took the time to let her know that he was "good and she didn't answer" lol. Wow I wish they were like that here in the states.
I saw this come up on the news last week and I said to my partner "That'll be on Coffeehouse Crime soon." Thank you for covering it and keep up the great videos, we love relaxing and watching them. :)
I really want to know more about Gemma, what was she like in Australia? Has she been involved in fraud or any criminal activity before? How long was she jobless when she returned to England? How did the whole family struggle pay for the property if they was previously wealthy?....so many questions but ultimately sad case, RIP to Deborah and love and light to her family, friends, especially her neighbours and the church members.
No comment - Jemma 😶
Absolutely horrifying! I feel so bad for Debra & her family.
Great work Adrian.
This is so sad .I'm just so surprised that this is recent. Meaning such people do still exist among us .I can't comprehend how one can take a life .The fear is not there anymore 😕 People are not afraid to kill let alone do the unthinkable. It's like we live with a void which is filled with darkness and evil !And even then I have prayed for God to come right away because its getting too much.But I know this is only the beginning, I just pray I am strong enough to endure evil and conquer it.
So sad that Deborah had such a tragic ending .May her soul rest in peace.
Thank you for covering this as well.
These type of people will always exist not matter the time period.. both of these people were Christians praying didn't help them
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i love hearing him swear. its so infrequent that when he does it really adds a punch to the statement!
😆😆😆 and he's so endearing he can get away with it too😆
This channel gets me through my work day. I love it and I hope you will continue to keep making videos and being who you are. Just wanted to say that
just found this fella a week ago. been binging all kinds of his stuff at my biz while i wait on customers!!
I’m diagnosed with schizophrenia and this made me so sad. We are a vulnerable group often demonized.
Yay new video! Your voice is so calming, you should read audio books. 😊
Omg! I found you on UA-cam and you have great content!! I’m so impressed 😊and your voice calms me down. We lived in England 🏴 for 5 yrs so I’m think your from there. Best days of my life!! Thank you so much ☺️