Commodore Amiga 500 from eBay (March 2022)
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- In this video I'm going to unbox and try out an Amiga A500 that i purchased from eBay.
Links
How many Amigas do you own Poll - • Post
CJ's Elephant Antics Box - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2751479093...
Amiga Test Kit: github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff
Timestamps
0:00 How Many Amiga's?
1:19 Unbox
3:50 Bundled stuff
5:00 Bundled games
8:30 Boot up and test
10:07 Trying out games
14:00 Opening the memory module
15:04 Some minor repairs
18:20 PSU test results
18:38 Pang
20:07 Final ramblings
I have 3 of them and am always on the lookout for more lol...i am 51 years old from england and on a big nostalgia trip...thank you for the video.
That music chip and smooth graphics really made the Amiga.
Yep, I think the audio chip really counted for a lot in the Amiga, especially as it could do all that audio work without taxing the processor, it allowed games to sound good without compromising the graphics or gameplay.
Great purchase. Starts up and plays the disks just like 25 years ago.
The 500 is pretty robust
You can never have too many Amigas (that's what my grandmother used to say).
She was a wise woman
@@DavePoo2 Indeed. People would come from far and wide to seek her advice.
never let the truth stand in the way of a perfect quote 👌
It's a strange one for me. I was a Spektrum 48K owner back in the early eighties as I could never afford a C64. I liked my Speccy, but always pined for a C64. Several years later, I was lucky enough to be able to buy the newly released Amiga 500 and a 1084S monitor brand new. It was amazing. As much as I still love the Amiga, I never had an urge to buy one again, even for nostalgia reasons. Same with the Speccy. Different story with the C64 though. I bought my first 2 a couple of months ago. One not working, but cosmetically mint (both breadbins of course) and the other working but poor cosmetics. I am down the rabbit hole now buying all kinds of things for testing, running games on sd cards, modern psu's, spare chips, video converters etc. It's kind of spiralling out of control a little, but having a real original breadbin c64 running is a joy. I can only dream of having the setup you have there. Maybe one day...
Yep, the C64 is your gateway addiction to the Amiga. I've got a few C64's as well, but at the moment I just keep coming back to the Amiga. One of the Amiga's I own (A600) is mine from the 90's, I never got rid of it and restored it to working order (and yes put a new PSU and SD card hard disk in, it does start to spiral out of control like you said).
Cool videos. I haven't turned them on in 17 (OMG!) years. But I have (if they survived), an A500, CDTV, and 3000T). I never used a 1200. Always wanted a 1000. Brilliant consumer design.. Gratz on your purchase!
Thanks. My bet is that the A500 has survived intact as they don't have a battery (unless there is one on the trapdoor expansion board?). The CDTV is probably due for a recap as it has dodgy 90's capacitors. The 3000T might suffer from the same cap problems, and you should check to the 3000 to see if it has a rechargeable battery inside it, as they are prone to leaking and destroying the board, so snip if out if you still have it in there.
It's always good to see Amiga's going to new homes. Bit of a bargain you've got there too! The RAM expansion took me back to my Amiga from my childhood as my expansion was exactly the same, but sadly my 500 (along with A570) and my joystick (but not my games) went missing from my parents house about 10 years ago! Anyway, great video and I've subbed
I spent so many hours completing Batman from by original BATPACK....legendary times. Time to mod that sucker for 1MB CHIP!
I only remember playing Batman in a shop, I thought it was hard but I remember being wow'd by the driving level on the streets. Were there many games that needed 1Mb of chip, or were they all designed to run with 1/2Mb chip so they could run on bog standard A500's (with trapdoor upgrade). Either way, i think the machine is going to a good home and it'll probably be left as is (maybe a PSU upgrade)
Wow, how nicely and safely packed your purchase is. Most of my Amiga purchases have been so carelessly packed and absolutely filthy.
Yeah, I gave the seller 5 stars all the way for feedback. It seems to be a well cared for machine.
no wonder i can't get one..
I now have too many
@@DavePoo2 they've gone to a good home though.. i don't know why i'm fixated on getting all my old tech back again.. i look at the ebay auctions and think do i really want an amiga? after all i can play the old games on my MiSTer and they're exactly the same. i've got several comp pros and zip sticks so it's not that. i think it's just that middle aged man thing trying to recapture his youth. i had such good times with the amiga, but maybe it was more the friends i had at the time, swapping discs, making songs on soundtracker, copying using x-copy, searching out PD s/ware at the local computer shop, drawing on dpaint, thinking how cutting edge i was cos i had a single speed cdrom. playing twintris and wizball til the early hours.. seemed the future was going to be creative, going to be incredible.. and what do we have? facebook and social media, computers that are no more than extentions of google chrome.. sad really - no wonder people hanker after old tech.
i'm aware of the irony that i'm posting this on social media/using chrome lolol
Well, it's not all bad. Modern computers truly are a wonder to behold. The laptop I'm writing this on would have been considered the worlds most powerful super computer if it had existed not too long ago. Back in the days of the C64 & Amiga, i really always wanted a better/faster computer but I had no idea how fast and powerful computers would actually become. I think one of the reasons for the nostalgia as that we now can see with hindsight that even though the computers have got x10,000 faster, the user experience of using a computer isn't necessarily that much better than it was 30 years ago, and in some cases the experience might actually be worse. Computers have got better but also more complex, so yearning for simpler time is something we can all relate to, e.g. People will still go camping even though they live in a nice warm house (but they don't want to camp forever!).
@@DavePoo2 defo. there is something about the flashing cursor waiting for a command when you switch on an 8bit machine, or the clicking of a disc drive when you boot a 16 bit machine, waiting to be given instructions. i defo miss that simplicity. i also think there were a lot more options back then.. today we have windows/macOS/linux, whereas back then. spectrum basic, c64basic, amstradbasic etc, workbench, tos, dos, just seemed like new systems were coming out all the time, not just building on the previous systems, but starting from scratch to create something new. now everything is built ontop of 3 OS's... creating something new is so much more difficult. can't imagine a company today building from scratch anything like the amiga, with custom chips.. unless it was a console. i totally agree though the computers got more powerful, but the interaction we have with them is what's changed.
Nice video. COMMODORE AMIGA FOR EVER.
Forever (as long as we remove all the alkaline batteries)
Got a nice Amiga 500
Thanks for making this video. I have one Amiga 500 in my spare room. When I get time, I will test it following your recommendations. I guess connecting it to a modern TV via HDMI maybe maybe tricky. I think you can buy a special converter? The Batman game you played, that brought back many early teenage memories :)
I am using a cheapo SCART to HDMI converter box that I got from Amazon for about £20. Looks like this particular one is not available anymore, there might be some equivalent www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00W9DJMNC
@@DavePoo2 Thank you. I will explore an equivalent one. I look forward to your next videos :)
I never truly moved on from using either the C64 or Amiga. Sure there was a little time where I didn't but it was always part of mind and I worked with music on the Amiga as well. The Amiga never really aged for me and it's something I always enjoyed. It was a few years that I didn't have a C64 but then ended up getting 4 or 5 at around 96. The trouble I found I'd always be worrying these machines were going to die on me and I eventually parted with them. I now run the bare metal BMC64 which is so spot on that I'm more than happy with the recreation of a C64 via emulation. May get an fpga though at some point
I still have one A1200 used and two nos Escom machines from AMigakit some 13 years ago that have zero use. Even the used A1200 remains unused these days because again I find emulation does it for me and is set up in Amibian on the Pi. Boots straight to it and is a joy to use. Both the Amiga and C64 represent so much of my life playing games and although I use the xbox as well for the occasional modern day greatness, a lot of my time is spent enjoying the classics and I can't see that changing
thanks for video
I've also got a BMC64 setup inside my original C64 case from back in the day. I think it's a really good way to enjoy the C64, I think the emulation works pretty well, and I love the clear video output.
Amazing packaging. Good seller.
I gave them 5 stars
Looks in great condition. Getting hard to find at good prices. I had one back in the 80s I did a count recently on how many I have, erm, 16! They need tlc One has a mechanical keyboard. Great nostalgia. The new mini 500 is out soon too.
16!! You are some kind of super collector. Yeah, the prices are only going up, I suppose because the Amiga population is going down, as the machines either start to fail, or they start to go to collectors who don't want to sell the machines.
My Amiga and my STE are still working very well but I had to buy 3 C64 to make one that works properly 😅 Anyway, sweet vid! Thanks for sharing !
I would assume then that you have the breadbin C64, they are older and a lot more unreliable than the later C64C and the Amiga. I don't think it will be too long before all the original C64 PLA's are dead, and the SID chips are also getting rare now as they are basically self destructing. We'll have to see how well the Amiga does when it gets to 40.
I had 2 breadbins and a 64c. I kept the case of the 64c and some parts of the other twos. 90% of my floppies (64, ST or Amiga) are still working. Mainly because (I guess) they’re stored in a dry place. I need those machines because I’m making music with them. Love the sound of those old school chiptunes and I never took part of the ST/Amiga war as I always loved both machines for different reasons. Still do actually 😄
@@nolake I would say I also never took part in the Amiga/ST war, but honestly I had no love for the Atari because I "heard" the Amiga first, and after that the bleepy sound of the ST was just no comparison. Looking back on it today, the ST was a cheaper computer, and appeared before the Amiga, so it had it's place in the market. I think keeping the floppies dry is probably the best thing you can do, I'm quite suprised that ALL the floppies in this eBay batch are in good condition, but I think the computer has been stored in a good dry environment, there is not a sign of any rust on the RF shield, so it seems this computer was well cared for even after it was packed away.
The Amiga sounds obviously better but it’s a complete different technology. Would you say the C64 sounds better than the ST? I think that what you would say is that you so prefer how the C64 sounds because of its specific triangular Sid sounding but it would be a mistake in my opinion to say that it sounds better 😊 And so many years after that great era I’d say that it’s a real pleasure to hear the sound of those three machines.
Nowadays I try to mix old sounding with new ones. When you have a moment, tell me what you think of it : nolake.bandcamp.com/track/project-dragonfly-2
@@nolake I had a listen, that's really good, I like it. You like to do a lot of ambient style stuff it seems. It's funny you should mention comparing the C64 sound to the Atari ST, because I found out this week that the chip designer of the VIC-I & VIC-II was also the chip designer for the sound hardware in the Atari ST. See this section of the live stream from Bil Herd's channel where he interviews Albert Charpentier and he talks about the sound hardware he made after he left Commodore ua-cam.com/video/JeGCC2Kgqik/v-deo.html
You outbid me sir!! 😆. Oh I have a 1000, and three 2000's, but no 500 and I'm still on the hunt. Won't consider a Mini, but if there's even a full sized emuAmiga then I'll be waiting.
Do you mean you actually bid on this Amiga on eBay? The 1000 is a rare beast indeed. If you been watching Stranger Things 4 on Netflix (set in 1986) then they have quite a few retro computers in there, one of them being the original Amiga.
I've had several A500's, A600's and A1200's over the years and also owned a CD32 console for a while. I've never owned any of the "big box" Amiga systems though. I currently have a non working A500 that I still need to repair when I get round to it.
I still to this day have never even seen a big box Amiga in the flesh.
Hold J then A for 5 seconds consecutively then press M five times, the screen turns upside down, infinite lives, time and some of the function keys select the level you are on. Batman of course!!
Is that for real or are you trolling me?
I'd say you got a good bargain there - when you consider recently I saw an Amiga BOOK on Amazon (2nd hand) for which the seller wanted £175!.
That's about the same price people are selling an empty Amiga 4000 box
I got a Amiga A500 from eBay to use in a pistorm. It had the A501 with a bad battery, I put a coin cell in it but you can`t use the cover again.
I have got two A1200 and a A500+ working.
I didn't put the metal cover back on anyway. Good work, another A501/500 saved from the battery.
E un bel video.hai preso un buon A500,rev.5 se non sbaglio.quando hai tempo fai un retrobright alla keyboard.e' un bell'AMIGA
The Retrobright has been done -> ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxz5VUTal7OByf-1SzBe9NIxCcmDJE5bJh
I don't know why, but something is saying me that you like Amiga :). And who doesn't 😍.
What gave it away?
Ocean games was mostly awesome
Yep, they did pretty decent stuff (mostly).
I had 11 Amiga's back in the mid 90s, but mostly to resell, I found a cheaper source. And they were not 500 only, they were also 600, one 1000 and one CDTV.
You had 11 in the mid-90's! Were you buying them up cheaply as they became less desirable? I didn't "keep up with the Commodore" in the mid-90's (once Doom was out), so I don't know how well they held their value after that.
@@DavePoo2 I bought them from a seller who sold them in bunch (don't know where he had them). I live in Romania and in the 90s (at least first part) information was scarce and things like this couldn't be found in the stores, only from individuals who God knows where they had. I bought the Amiga 1000, CDTV and one of 500 and 600 to play with them, the others were an opportunity for me to make some money. In the end, I didn't make much, nearly like what I payed for them. PC's were coming fast from behind and people didn't want Amiga, Atari ST and so on as much. My only regret is that I couldn't get an Amiga 1200 back in the day. I was drooling for one. But I had no money and by the time I had the money, it had no future.
Hi. I've been to Bucharest in the mid 2000's. I wasn't sure if the Amiga was sold or marketed in Romania? I also never had a 1200 back in the day, i only got one recently. I like the computer but I'm a bit disapointed in the lack of compatibility with older Amiga software, I think it was the change to the 68020 that caused a lot of the incompatibility, coupled with software that wasn't written with future hardware changes in mind.
@@DavePoo2 I think you know that Romania was under communist regime until 1989, so you couldn't find anything of "West Europe" in stores. Only local and Eastern European machines. So, no Amiga's. After the revolution, things moved very slow due to oligarchs interests, so still no Amiga's in the stores, only in the adds, used machines. Nowadays, after 32 years since revolution and country entering EU, you can find here pretty much the same things like in the rest of West Europe, but of course, the era of Amiga's is long gone now. Surely Amiga wasn't marketed and/or manufactured in Romania.
I would have liked to have a 32-bit Amiga 1200, because there were cooler games, but I explained why I didn't get one. For you those are novelties now, but back then those were things people used as common games machines.
@@phaenius Oh, I forgot all about "Ceaușescu", yeah, I'm pretty sure he wasn't a Commodore fan. When I was there Romania was just joining the EU. It's a shame your country missed out on the "golden age" of home computing so to speak. Yeah, back in the day, my Amiga 500 and 600 were not novelties, they were just my computer, but today I can still enjoy them very much.
Had a C128, A2000, A1200 and a horrible broken A3000T. Now I only got the C128 and a ”newer” A600. Plus 3 breadbox c64 and one c64c. Should have kept the A1200
The A1200 is very popular now but that might just be because it's more rare, I don't think they made that many (as commodore had no money and couldn't afford parts!)
This reminds me, I have my A500 Plus that's been buried in a closet for the last 25 years, I really need to do something about the battery.
Yeah, do something with the battery or the battery will do something with your Amiga. Unfortunately, if it has a battery like this one, it's definitely leaked by now.
@@DavePoo2 Ouch, I'll dig it out asap!
@@DavePoo2 I dug it out, with much huffing and puffing, of course it was right at the back. The battery is looking a bit frosty, I'll have to find a soldering iron and remove it. I couldn't remove the rf shield fully as there's a rom switcher stuck on it with a connecting wire going to a pin on Paula. I remember making it switchable, completely forgotten about that part though. :D
@@ezoray Nice work, is there anyway you could maybe cut the battery out? or just get yourself a soldering iron to remove it.
@@DavePoo2 Yeah I will get it sorted. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your video's, I loved the Amiga back in the day and they bring back some happy memories. I bought lots of books and odds and ends back then, probably the most interesting being a A530 Turbo, that was a real boon for speeding up compilation times when assembly programming.
Batman the movie best game, also robocop , so glad you tried that game lol
Batman the Move is one game I remember seeing back-in-the-day in a computer store, and I was really impressed with it and what the Amiga could do. Today it still graphically great and the sound it good, but the gameplay is a little janky by modern standards. Still, it's a better game than most.
Tbh I'd forgotten about super pang as well , looks a lot like goku , also chaos engine and gods were brilliant games , so gutted my parents sold my amiga 500
@@jimbobjonez Pang is a really good version on the Amiga, from what I can remember it seems just like the arcade version. I've actually never played chaos & gods, I should give those a go. At least they sold your A500 and got the money, instead of trashing it or giving away, Its probably still out there now being played, they are reasonably reliable machines.
@@DavePoo2 also just remembered the spy who loved me , that was well good also
I wish 4 other people had Amigas
This Amiga has now been given away.
I've got about 50 to 100 original in boxes Amiga games some 500 and some 1200 ive been thinking of getting rid off
That's a big haul to get rid of!
I still have my CDTV just need to get a external disk drive and keyboard to convert it into a A500
Wow, I always forget all about the CDTV, I bet there are not many of those around. Certainly was a good idea from Commodore to have a media center style computer, as if you think about it, it's basically what smart TV's are now.
@@DavePoo2 It was way ahead of its time literally decades ahead , such a leftfield idea can only come from the creativity of the Commodore Amiga team who werent being obsessively micromanaged by project managers and money men to stifle innovation. the 80s and 90s was one of the last truly trailblazing decades
sold 3 Amigas got 2 FPGA's mist and mister do all my amiga now days
That certainly is a good way to experience Amiga today as these old machines need a lot of care and feeding to keep them going. Modern replacements or emulators are a more reliable way of taking a look at old stuff.
I only got the original games that came with the pack ,thank you glasgow Barrowlands lol a lot of amiga heads used their own copy software ,go buy a game copy it then take the game back pause then repeat lol at £2 a copy ...cashback lol we all like having the original of anything but the chances of them having viruses is slim to none ..
Yeah, there might be the odd game that actually runs inside workbench, so in theory it's possible for them to have viruses that could spread, but unlikely as very few games did or do that (the tiny bobble game I've used in my videos can be played from inside workbench if you have enough ram)
In Pang you could also find secret stuff in the blocks on the top.
Whenever I see someone playing with a joystick, it gives me the creeps. Specially when pressing up to jump.
The best way to play is an arcade stick like Quickshot Maverick one.
I mostly played it at the Arcade, they had a machine in my town for many years. I used to go and play some Pang and Snow Bros.
5:38 Viruses?. What do you mean?.
I don't remember having problems with viruses with Amiga games.
In theory, could any disk have a virus because every disk has a boot block?
What interface you use for video connection?
A cheap scart to HDMI converter from Amazon.
You have Input lag with this? Thx mate.
@@djwaveshark not that is noticeable to me.
a 2000 and 1200 and a C128D
A C128D is a rare machine indeed. That is the big box version right?
@@DavePoo2 I know got it out of the paper back in 1999 come with lots of disks and a heap of box games $55 all i paid computer is mint
@@giggabyt78 Nicely done! a year to buy an Amiga cheap
I just bought my first Amiga (since back then) and I really hope I dont end up like this. Hope 1 can fulfill my needs.
No offence ofcourse, and I know I may end walking this same path eventually. But hope not. It is a lot of stuff to keep around.
that said, this has already festered. An Amiga 600 looks so nice and slim. Damnit!
You can never have too many Amigas
I'm on 7.
Lucky 7
did the Amiga ever have bogus ram? on dosuae it did? thanks....
"bogus ram"?
@@DavePoo2 yep on dosuae or uae.exe there was an option to use bogus ram???? thanks.... back from 1997!!!!
@@ms-ex8em I've never heard of that.
IIRC on Amiga, there are only two RAM types:
Chip RAM (dedicated to OCS, ECS AGA)
Fast RAM (dedicated to CPU)
@@paulgraves1392I wonder if it was referring to "slow" ram, which is chip ram that it not addressable by the custom chips? This a500 has that, because the expansion is on the chip ram bus but is inaccessible by Agnus etc
I couldn’t vote on my iPad, but I have 9 amigas…
Two 500’s
Two 1000’s
A 2000
A 3000
Three 1200’s
Wow, that's quite a lot of Amigas. 1000's are quite rare from what I can tell, how did you end up with 2 of those? do all 9 machines work?
@@DavePoo2 I bought my first 500 in 88 loved and upgraded it for years, but moved on to Mac and pc after the company crumbled. I kept up with Amiga for a while, but couldn’t get the 2000 desire to go away, a buddy of mine had amigas, and when he moved away, he gave me his two 1000’s and his heavily upgraded 2000. That sparked my passion for the machines. And at work a few years later, one of my customers came to me with his 3000 that wouldn’t run disks anymore. I couldn’t fix his 3000, so I sold him a working one off eBay, and kept his. Then with the itch really bugging me, I wanted a 1200. So I got one off eBay. It had a 160MB HD, but had crappy video output. So I bought another… and IT had crappy video output… so, I got a third, and it works great. And it came in a tower case!
The 2000 has bad VARTA cancer, and is being cleaned, I purchased a 3 pack of non working 2000 mb’s to get one going… I will get around to it someday…
@@DavePoo2 I have a dozen or so 64's and 128's plus a ton of old consoles from 78 up to current...
I dont throw much away.
Good work, I still have the A600 that I owned from the 90's, still works (just the floppy drive needed replacing/service)
How can I get one
This one has already gone to good home
thats the original dust cover
The Amiga 500 didn't come with a dust cover did it? It definitely looks 30+ years old
@@DavePoo2 yeah it did . maybe an optional extra but they had them.. my A600 came with a blue edged cover
How much u bought Amiga 500 from ebay?.. and how long ago?....
I think it was £70 in 2022
@@DavePoo2 Yeah but how in the US price when u bought Amiga 500?
A lot of copies, but the machine and peripherals seem to be in great condition, I'd say give them a pass!
Yeah, I gave 5 star review, it's been really well looked after considering it's age.
Awesome Your channel popped up on my feed...SUBBED YAH
It was the right thing to do :)
they have 10 broken ones *in parts maybe
Cobble them together into 1 working machine!