Telling the moms before confronting the husband and best friend WAS the psychological warfare. Possibly the best psychological warfare I've ever seen in one of these.
True in effect, but the point being that it wasn't malicious as such even when that would've been fully justified, much less was it even her intent to inflict harm. She was so clearly focused on doing everything possible to hedge her bets of coming out on top, her judgment was completely unclouded by the shitstorm around her, she wasted no energy being vindictive and ultimately did better than 99% of people coulda done to ensure the best outcome for everyone primarily her kids. This is exactly why she is the GoaT. 🐐💃
I was freaking out for that one, truly. He could not have been more right, this guy's post, his mindset, the phrasing, the entire lack of boundaries... my god
I’m a hiker. That man endangered her life and Courtney is 100% right that he kidnapped her. I can only imagine what he actually said to her while describing her body. I hope the group went beyond kicking him out and told other clubs what he did.
Guys like this are why you stay strapped in the woods. Imagine how scared she must have been when she realized this guy had led her deep into the woods without her knowledge. She had literally no where to go and had no idea how far he’d take his advances with no one around to help her.
For the hiking story: THE INITIAL HIKE WAS 3 HOURS! Did you really need a detour?! Like 3 hours is plenty enough time to make a connection. This is terrifying.
I mean it's pretty clear how he describes his life and his and other peoples actions that he's a probably neurodivergent hermit who's been isolated from society for too long
@@janeeyre1990 I'm also ND, my point was to mainly focus on the isolation and how that distorts a persons view of acceptable behavior that can compound with the possible difficulties being ND brings. Didn't mean to associate it with automatic predatoryness, sorry if it came off like that
@@thedudefromrobloxxnope, he saw nothing wrong in the way he described her, he literally sexualized her, the one thing we got to know about her was her style of humor was childish💀this man is most likely an incel because how do you think women want you to describe their bodies 🤣
Fun fact: the EX BFF found the post and commented on it... Even giving their real names. She was saying that they were in love and that the ex husband said he would run away with the ex BFF. 😂
adult women in fandoms writing 100k+ masterpieces are the unseen backbone of fandom, especially smaller fandoms. literally cut from the same cloth as the housewives making spirk fanzines in the 1970s. the fandom foremothers.
They are doing free marketing as well. Most popular books have been fan fiction as well. Good luck to her on her books, hope she will update with the links to her books
@@HugoHatchal That's because most fanfic writers are amateur, and most fanfic IS cringe. What does adults writing the original work have to do with it? Lol
I've written two rare pair fics, it's so rewarding to see the comments gushing about finally seeing their otp get a longer fic. It makes my day every time there's a new one.
40:41 UPDATE dropped JUST TODAY. She's doing great! Tyler's ghosted completely-- literally refused to see the kids and even his dad can barely reach out to him. Jess has been dating ANOTHER MARRIED GUY and has been disowned by her parents. OP is dating Jake and seems to be doing genuinely great after everything. So, happy ending, I hope?
The biggest red flag for the hiking story is that the moment he was confronted about his plan, he immediately deflected any blame towards himself being saying "oh my body's just reacting to your desirable features, my biological responses" Also the fact that he thought "the hike is around 3 hours, but no that isn't enough time to chat with this woman we need AT LEAST SIX HOURS"
He's lucky she sounds very nice and calm, too. I would've ditched his ass, called him a perv and found my way to another group, if not beat the shit out of him.
Honestly though, she dodged a bullet. Trusting loose aquaintances in isolated places is how a lot of people end up with their picture on a milk carton.
Imagine walking the trail with someone you've just met and slowly realising you're being lied to as you're lead off the path. Then they turn around and tell you how they have "biological responses" to you. That's a horror story right there
What freaks me out about this guy is how robotic he is about everything, he opens it up with talking about recording data to see how social or anti social he had been recently And even his justification of his original description of her appearance in the comments is like,” why is it a bad decision, that is the accurate description of her physical appearance as described” like everything is broken down into its rawest and most simple depictions and framed as data for him to use like that is just really freaky thinking about it
That woman is a superhero. The fact that she, while pregnant, was able to be calm enough to read that shit and be capable of holding it and pretend nothing happened for a whole day while preparing to leave him. Damn!
Taking a detour that takes 3 hours longer than the whole hike should be is terrifying. She was probably scared out of her mind being stuck alone with him.
@@jss1328 He 100% has autism and probably have never had anyone teach him how to socialise properly since it's probably infuriating to hangout with him.
Who knew a video that started with "I unionized with my dogs" would eventually lead us to the most intense, gut-wrenching, rollercoaster of a story thus far in this series
Wait until you read the post about the MIL who assaulted her pregnant daughter in law. It might be one of the most unhinged Reddit stories I've encountered.
That story with the pregnant woman at 40:46 was the actual longest 20 minutes EVER. Just listening to that and how strong she was and I'm so glad the parents of the bff and ex husband were supportive of the wife. Holy shit I wish the best for her
My stomach was actually in knots listening to that. I had to pause and take a break in the middle because it was so overwhelming. I hope everything works out for her and that she and her babies stay safe!!
The hiking story: We are just glossing over that that man still thinks he has a shot? Or, more so, he absolutely refuses to take "no" for an answer. That her saying "stay as far away from me as possible" somehow translates in his mind to "She doesn't really want me to leave her alone. She's into me, she's just temporarily confused about that.".
@@thedudefromrobloxx you are deciding to diagnose a predator you know only from a post, and chronically online is sadly not true since this woman had to experience the terror of him isolating her and sexually harrassing her. To top the facts this comenter pointed out, a dangerous person overall. I've seen you respond the same to a bunch of comments. And I think you should reconsider, because by how you talk about it, it plays down what he did (as if it was a stupid weirdo and not calculated and sharing a lot of ideas born of systematic objectification of women) and atribute too much to a neurodivergency you don't know if he has (which comes across as atributing bad acts to neurodivergency, and not who he really is or what he thinks)
@@LordVader1094 Yea sorry for trying to understand people instead of just putting the creep label on them. I don't call him neurotypical necessarily for thr creepy actions, but more the way he explains them. Jesus christ.
49:55 Shane looked so proud of himself when he said “update” and the resulting screams had me dying! Reddit with Shane is honestly becoming the highlight of my week.
@@coolgirl3124 I didn't think there was going to be that second update (as this was recorded like a month ago) so I researched the post to see if I could find it which I couldn't. To then unpause the video and hear that there was actually an update had me in literal tears 😂
@@BrownNinja777 found another update! She posted it 19 days ago (the update Shane read was 24 days ago) OP: Hi everyone. I know a lot of people are still asking for an update. Not much has happened but here are the things that have happened. • Tyler discovered the post and asked me if I was seeking a divorce. I said I was. He apologized for losing his cool. Asked if there was any hope for reconciliation, I said no. We did have a conversation about the kids, and he’ll be allowed to see them with supervision to which he agreed to. • I had another meeting with my lawyer, nothing of major importance happened. • Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has happened with Jake. He didn’t take back his confession but as I said it’s on the back-burner for a long while. My kids health and well-being take priority over all else. • my dads health is on a steady decline. He’s now in the hospital with no release date in the immediate future. Please send over thoughts and well wishes his way. • my kids are adjusting well. We have a therapy appointment for them scheduled next week to help them. My oldest has more questions then the rest but I’m trying to save any big conversations for the therapy appointment so I know I’m conveying the answers in a meaningful and the least harmful way. Also my oldest made try outs for the traveling soccer league, yay! :) oh and the baby is doing great! Things have calmed down a lot. Truly. I feel like I have a better grip on things. I’ve been putting most of my focus on my dad and kids to keep myself busy. Thanks you friends for the love, support, and for checking in ❤️
@@Ciela531 thank you so much for the update. Like while I do have fantasies about the whole "omg the one for me was here all along" with Jake maybe happening, I'm so happy this strong and smart woman said I'm upset but I have to think of myself AND my kids and not just my kids because while well meaning, kids can tell when you aren't happy. So glad she's doing okay and I hope she gets the closure and support after her father has passed. I hope a lot of people in difficult relationships can learn from this BAMF woman just holy shiz
That poor woman, there's no chance she didn't think she was going to be assaulted, she had been travelling through a forested trail and she was lost with a dude she barely knew then the dude starts describing her in the most inappropriate way, 100% she was scared for her life
100% dude is honestly lucky to be uninjured, if I had been that scared I would have grabbed the nearest heavy object and went on the offensive. He already has you isolated… you can’t let when get ahold of you or something, too. Yeah, I would have freaked…
I honestly wonder if he is on the autism spectrum, as he doesn't seem too understand how to communicate and connect with people, and how to process people's reactions. He needs counseling, imo, to work through his EXTREME social awkwardness. That poor girl, I can't imagine the panic she felt.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 agreed, I assumed undiagnosed/unaddressed ASD was PART of the problem the moment there was data being reviewed to determine he needed to socialize more. But it's definitely not the entire problem with him, as he made it to 19 without previously learning that you can't treat women like Sims characters to make them date you. I know 7 year olds on the spectrum that already know more about personal boundaries and listening to their peers when they voice concern/fear in a situation.
I'm not gonna lie, for the story about the guy not invited to the wedding, I sincerely thought for the first minute that this was the opposite side of the "my husband can't come to my sister's wedding because he likes to piss himself" story from one of the earlier episodes of this series and we were hearing the husband's perspective finally.
@@CharlieApples the holiday stories, it was like one of the first ones in this format with Shayne, Kimmy and Chanse were the guests. The very final story literally starts out the same way as the wedding story in this one from a different perspective, like "would I be the assh*le for not going to my sister's wedding. My family doesn't like my husband because of this one specific issue" and so on. But the set ups are very similar from like the opposite perspectives, both insane stories in their own right.
Cortneys scream to the "I don't want to know about your biological responses to me" is a fucking mood. You could feel and hear the absolute fear, disgust and discomfort in that scream
I’m surprised no one has mentioned how fanfics are a great way to practice writing because you’re working with characters that are already established, so you can focus more on fleshing out the storyline. So not only is it valid, it’s actually very practical.
yess even reading them can help! it cancels out the character building and helps you focus on the narrative aspect. i read a lot of fanfics as a teen and now i'm working on writing my own stories thanks to it :)
The pregnant woman one, must be the most absolute angelic person alive considering 3 separate families chose her side. Like 2 families disowned their children for her (which they absolutely should honestly) but seriously. What a woman. I respect her so much.
We have to bring femicide into this discussion. Femicide is when women are murdered because they're women, or out of hatred for women. Every single day 238 women are killed intentionally, according to United Nations Population statistics. These murders are typically committed by (in most cases cis-male) exes. We have to raise awareness about this problem. And we have to keep femicide in the backs of our heads when we read stories like these. A pregnant woman shares with us how she, her children and her father were chased by a violent ex (who had to be restrained during an earlier meeting with all parents).
Update for Tyler & Jess Story 9 days ago: First off unfortunately her father has passed away and OP is doing okay as she knew it was coming but still has her bad days. Tyler has ghosted her and her kids( I say her Kids cause he no contact and doesn’t seem to care) He is remarried and has a kid on the way. His parents were sent an invitation but refused to go. Jess however is a different story, not too long ago she snuck into OPs house while OP was cooking and Jake was outside with the kids. OP held Jess at knifepoint screaming at her to get out. Jake heard the yelling came in and restrained her. Jess began yelling she came there to beg for forgiveness and then yelled she would ruin OPs life. The police got involved and Jess lied her butt off saying she was lured over there and Jake attacked her. The cops did not buy her story and a protection order was put in place. Then OP contacted the school and alerted them and made it crystal clear who were the only people allowed to pick up the kids just in case. To end on a more happy note, Jake has left the military has been back since Christmas and they are dating but taking it slow.
The way the pregnant woman with the cheater handled that situation with grace, ease, and integrity... despite being in the midst of grief... so inspiring. Women. The way all the parents sided with her lets you know she is a genuinely good person.
And she managed to be that smart and calm in this hellhole of a situation while controlling her emotions affected by her ever-changing hormones from her pregnancy. Damn! I've already gone past puberty and even if there's nothing stressing me in my life, I don't think I can handle that.
mhm, that was all i could think that whole time. she genuinely seems like the best person ever, despite everything she’s gone through and is going through currently she still manages to have all her shit together and be so strong and optimistic, WHILE PREGNANT i might add. her whole story was incredibly inspiring.
i think as well her being pregnant with a dying father & already having two very young kids made it very easy for the parents to back her. the grandparents obviously want to foster a good relationship with their grandkids & ensure they are kept safe & happy. turning on the OP & defending their son would have just meant they lost their grandchildren. & OP mentioned a few times that her former best friend has been problematic, as well as how they grew up together from babies. so her parents likely see OP as a second daughter & having their actual daughter hurt her in this way when she is so vulnerable (again, pregnant, young kids, dying father) was the last straw for them. i know they mentioned finding the parents reactions rare & refreshing, but given all the variables at play here i think only a monster would be against OP in this scenario.
UPDATE FROM THE TYLER AND JESS STORY AS OF 22 DAYS AGO: Tyler laid down and rolled over. They're now officially divorced and he did not fight her on anything. She has full custody and he has VERY SUPERVISED visitation. OP's dad passed away, and she has decided to name the baby after him, MIL and Angie are the best grandma's ever. Jake and OP are not currently together, but she has promised that if it happens she will update.
Further update, Tyler kicked a stink when she wouldn't allow him in the delivery room after all that he put her through! Jess showed up to her dad's funeral. Also he has visitation only at a facility because he had another violent outburst when the oldest child was asking him questions at their second meetup so the judge made it a requirement that there be tighter supervision (didn't hit the kid but threw stuff around)
the pregnant woman’s story is such a heartbreaking one BUT WHAT A STRONG WOMAN!! The way she wrote, expressed herself, did not think about ‘revenge’ and how she handled herself is incredible. even during tough times she was standing her ground, just wow!
I was going to say this too! She’s incredibly strong in herself; if I was going through something similar, I don’t know that I would’ve made it out ok. Also, how lucky are her children that their mother is such a strong woman?!? She’s amazing, a superhero honestly.
Girl lost what she thought was her biggest support system (her husband and best friend) and is unfortunately losing her father, only to find this great new support system, the parents and the brother, it's kind of beautiful
I thought it was kinda funny how she said she didn't get revenge because I was just like "girl, you left BOTH of them high and dry with whiplash, neither of them have their parents, and their parents are the ones that confronted them, not you... you didn't just get revenge, you got NUCLEAR revenge!!!"
That woman is losing her father, lost his partner and the father of her children and her best friend, took care of ALL legal things incredibly fast all while being pregnant, while the other guy confessed his love for her from years ago to top it off. The WILL, the STRENGTH she has is inmense. I admire her so much and I wish all good things for her
• story of the hiker had MAD Criminal Minds energy. He's absolutely going to murder someone. • fanfic story had me so irritated, like so much fanfic has become canon, driven entire series, CREATED series (hello, Mandalorian), that disdain for it HAD to be pure jealousy. She deserves so much more. • delved into the reddit thread with the pregnant woman's saga... it got insane! Update, ex husband Toby (Tyler) and ex-bf Jade (Jess) FOUND THE THREADS (Jade revealed their actual names) and Jade legit told OP she hoped she MISCARRIES. In-fucking-sane.
As a woman with multiple degrees (one dissertation away from the PhD) who also loves fanfiction, I definitely appreciated everyone's opinions on the guy who wanted to minimize his gf and her accomplishments. ❤
As a woman with multiple degrees and who got her PhD almost a year ago (wishing you the best of luck on your dissertation), I love watching Pokémon. It’s something I do for me. I love hearing about people’s hobbies, of all kinds! Fan fiction, gaming, baking, reading, whatever.
story 6: anyone who wants an update with op and the brother: they have been dating about 5-6 months and he just moved in, he says that once (not if) they get married, he'll adopt the kids; her oldest kid wants to call him dad and the others don't even mention their dad anymore and said that he used to be mean when she wasn't looking. The dad is remarried and has a kid on the way and she just got a 7 yr restraining order on Jess after she showed up and walked in her house unannounced.
Jess is just waiting to get her ass beat with that behavior. It won't be OP, it won't be her parents that disowned her, but SOMEONE will just give her a ring-wearing beatdown that forever makes it hard for her to sleep with married men and it will be entirely her own fault with that attitude.
@Juupitrr Also Jess tried to kidnap one of her kids and then Jess tried getting back at Tyler via contacting with his new gf/now wife to ruin his new relationship, but got his new gf/now wife to block her crazy ass. And since Jess is a basically a serial cheater, she lost all of her friends and blames OP for her ruined life. I think that's everything but I might be missing one more thing or a couple.
Honestly the 'we should have filmed this tomorrow for the update', a few beats of silence, then a deadpan 'UPDATE' AND Trevor and Courtney going crazy was incredible - I've rewatched just that part so many times 😂
I bad for that guy mainly because he needs help and probably constantly thinks people "misunderstand" him. Bro is a dangerous, loosely assembled tangle of red flags, and he needs to realize that. Good on everyone in that group for calling him out and disassociating with him. Not everyone's problems are yours to fix. That man needs PROFESSIONAL help.
@@DJKuroh i dunno, not defending him but this screams undiagnosed on the spectrum of some sort, but good on bro for recognizing he needed to get out and touch grass.
@@user-xw1lh7zt7nI was thinking the same thing. What he did was absolutely wrong but he needs therapy 100% if he’s refusing to acknowledge WHY it was wrong and not understanding.
And I bet you if she had expressed any concern beforehand, she would have been labeled a manhater and prejudice. Many women had died because they are kind.
@@alexiatr Really? Nobody really gets on a woman's case for just not wanting to hang out with a guy, certainly not "manhater" and "prejudice" except in online manosphere spaces, I doubt her friends would act that way towards her. But you are right about kindness often leading to exploitation. Unless you mean this guy labelling her those things, in which case you're right.
Trevor: Why couldn't we have filmed this tomorrow so we have the update Shayne: UPDATE Trevor and Courtney: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAYYYY 🤯🤯 That was so iconic 😂😆 I love how invested they were with the story.
This video was recorded about 24 days ago, before the buyout. Idk if Mythical and Smosh will still collab. If they do (and God, I want them to) it's gonna be a new era for Smosh and GMM
Yeah I would never plan something when my partner has expressed that he wants to do something else that is important to him. She's definitely the asshole.
@@Haybear_92 I think you can plan things when someone expresses they want to do something for months, just handle it yourself and 100 PERCENT thank him/her for even helping your last minute plan. She was an asshole about it tho with how she was.
Yeah having strangers in my house when I planned on specifically chilling in there would kill some of my vibe. But if they had a home theater I guess it would be somewhat different since it’d be in a more contained space.
Yes, He was great! He communicated well. He even gamed around the party. He was the perfect host/gamer. He did better than most partners with no other plans. Lol I'd hire him as a co-host to clean, prep, serve, greet and see everyone off! His wife is tripping. She has great partner!
THE FACT THAT THE PREGNANT LADY IMMEDIATELY HAD THE EX BEST FRIENDS BROTHER CONFESS HIS FEELINGS IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER WHILE HE LITERALLY ACTED LIKE A SECOND FATHER TO THE CHILDREN MAKES ME SCREAM AND KICK WITH JOY LIKE HUMANITY HAS HOPE GUYS
@@wakisabeas a guy who has been in a similar situation and did confess my feelings, I find his timing distasteful and selfish even though I don't think he is a bad guy. When someone is vulnerable and has just suffered a betrayal and feels alone, sure, you can think to yourself that letting them know people will still want them and be interested in them and love them is somehow helping, but it's also somewhat predatory if it works in your favor and it can be devastating to them if you've been there as their support through this and they don't want to take it anywhere because no matter how many times you say it doesn't need to go anywhere or even be addressed and that it's okay if they're not interested and you're not going to try to pursue them romantically it can place a seed of doubt into their mind about whether you're being a good friend who is there for them because you love them as a supporting friend or if you have ulterior motives leading to them potentially feeling significantly more alone and betrayed. He's not instantly a jerk for it, but it was not the time and place for it in my honest opinion.
The husband and best friend story is especially crazy cause this woman seems like straight up the kindest most perfect human being to ever exist. She’s an incredible mother who treats her kids with respect and doesn’t act like they’re not people, she’s somehow managing to stay afloat whilst her father is losing his memory and she’s so wonderful that both the cheaters parents straight up dropped their children immediately and just adopted her. This woman is a saint
The fact that the mothers and fathers were all amazing too, like no tolerance for that crap and the disappointment in their kids while supporting someone who was wronged and not their child. She is pregnant and dealing with multiple loses but battling through it, she may not feel it but she is showing massive strength.
The pregnancy cheater story was a wild ride! I'm 8 months pregnant and i couldnt imagine being in her situation. If by any chance OP ever sees this, you are a badass. So many people are so so proud of you. You are a rockstar for standing up for yourself and whats best for your kiddos. You have all the support in the world.
It came across as made up. So much happened in 24 hours. Meeting lawyers, a confrontation with the entire extended family, a gynaecologist appointment etc
I'm Bipolar so emotions hit me like a brick and it was worse when I was pregnant. For her to stay strong and not break down took so much strength. This women is amazing! I could never have handled it with as much grace and care as she did.
Omg that women who filed the divorce is an incredible mother. I like how she just barely hints at it but the amount of respect she has for her kids to give them a therapist and explain to them the truth to help them through the loss. You can tell how amazing she is by the fact that her INLAWS and her FRIENDS PARENTS took HER side over their own children. She sounds like an incredible woman who didn’t deserve any of this :(
UPDATE: Just wanted to come back for a small update :) Baby is here! He was born slightly premature but no nicu stay was needed. He was 5lbs 9oz and 19” and absolutely beautiful. Angie was in the room with me when I had him while MIL stayed with the other littles. My older two are obsessed with their baby brother and it makes my heart happy. MIL and Angie are taking turns spending the night and days with me for the first six weeks until we get acclimated. I told them they didn’t have to but they insisted. Honestly I’m grateful for it. I can feel the waves of PPD trying to drag me under and my mental health really hasn’t been doing so good (don’t worry my therapist knows and we’re working through it). Knowing that this baby never gets to know and feel the love of my dad has really been hurting and the fact that this is the only grand baby he didn’t get to meet. I miss him like crazy and wish he was still here. Jake was planning on staying in for another two years to retire but they offered him “early retirement” (not because anything going on with me or this whole situation, there was a situation at work. He didn’t do anything wrong lol) so within the next six months he’ll be moving back home. He’s going to try house hunting and find a place before he comes home but since he isn’t allowed to take any leave during this time to view places since he has to work on his exit stuff there’s a chance he’ll be temporarily living with me until he finds a place. No he isn’t moving in permanently lol. He might even just get an apartment for a year and then buy a house. There’s also some drama with Tyler already because he’s pissed I wouldn’t let him in the room when I had baby. So if you want any more updates on that front I’ll provide when I’m not overwhelmed. Love you all, thank you all for being my ear when I need to vent and get everything off my chest. I hope all of your days are wonderful today and everything goes your way. Until next time friends
Watching this after April 1st, Shayne's advice is so good! "Just focus on making friends, and finding love will work out eventually". Meanwhile Courtney is just sitting there screaming internally "mhmm, yeah".
Seeing how the ex reacted when she left it makes me SO GLAD she didn’t confront him herself. She was pregnant and vulnerable. I would seriously consider never being alone with him and living with someone else while he goes through everything for a while. The worst time for women with violent partners is within two years of leaving them.
TYLER AND JESS STORY UPDATE: as of 8 days ago she has updated us. her babyboy is here and she is struggling with a her mental health a bit after the birth but is working on it with her therapist. Angie and her MIL still help out constantly even taking turns spending the night with her. On the tyler front she didn’t allow him in the delivery room (rightfully so) and he was pissed abt that, she said she would update on that front further when she isn’t overwhelmed as much. and what you’ve all been waiting for JAKE. jake was granted early retirement bc of his own personal thing (wasn’t said what but she said he didn’t do anything wrong or anything like that) he is trying to house hunting bc he is moving back home soon but can’t really look for anything as he is still finishing out his job and can’t take leave butttt he may end up temporarily staying with her while he looks for a home :))))
My mom was a prolific and extremely popular fanfic writer when I was young. My dad is her biggest supporter, and encourages her to get back on to writing, fanfiction or otherwise. You deserve someone who supports you like that!
Fanfics are amazing. I mean our favorite characters have new adventures. It's creative and i'm so happy to have been able to read so many stories. And i know someone who is a fanfic writer and has published books.
Archive of Our Own, one of the most in-depth and populated fanfiction websites, has won a Hugo Award. So technically, anyone who posted a fanfic on there prior to the year that Hugo award was given has won a literature prize. Fanfiction is a real form of writing.
I have read masterpieces on AO3, beautifully paced, excellent plot, fantastic dialogue. I would call them pieces of art. Then I would read an absolutely dumperster fire of a fanfic, no grammar, one word block, dialogue without paragraphs. And you know what? Both of these things are valid and should be there. It's unhinged, but god do I love it.
@@colt9836 totally agree! I love the variation and that it encourages anyone, of any ability, to write! I like to leave reviews even on the ones that are very clunky and a bit hard to read because I think it's great that people are trying. I know people who use it to practice their English too and I think that's awesome - writing anything comprehensible in another language is a damn good effort in my books even if the grammar, format, etc. isn't perfect. Fanfic is a great medium. It can be just fun, a hobby, practice or lead into money-making, career, published authors and all of those are valid. It can build such a great community and give people encouragement to be creative regardless of their end goal. Creativity is good for the soul so I think it should always be encouraged.
I could also really really relate to her hesitancy of "admitting" she wrote fanfic to her BF. for some reason that can be such a vulnerable thing to share? I think partly because it's stigmatised through being seen as cringy and weird. I'm very proud of my own fanfictions, both the prose and the themes in them, but I've only ever shared them with online friends who are "in" on fandom culture - no irl friends.
Thanks so much for this! Just a reminder that he’s an ex-husband, not ex-bf. But again, thank you so much for writing it down! It really helps /genuine
I love fanfiction. I absolutely love and admire fanfiction writers. Thank you for all the beautiful stories you guys made. Some will call me cringey and weird, but fanfictions help me with my depression and they're my only entertainment when I was lonely.
I don't think anyone who has an ounce of creativity about them think that it's cringey or weird. It's art, it's fun. What's not to enjoy and appreciate!
I used to write fanfiction during the loneliest periods of my life. It was so incredibly inspiring and sweet to see the comments people would leave, genuinely grateful for my works. We see every comment and kudos you leave, and it means the world to me when readers express their opinions about my writing. 💜
Yes!! As a fanfic reader & writer is always disheartening to see stories like that one that treat the hobby as a joke. It’s a legitimate hobby that brings many people joy & people create for FREE!!
fun fact: A lot of writers for tv shows and cartoons all that jazz start by writing fanfictions but theyre actually called "spec scripts" youre basically taking the characters and writing an original story (so fanfiction basically) it shows people hiring that youre able to take characters and fully understand their personalities and how to write them and how you can be creative with the situations you put them in
A lot of fanfics I have written got rewritten into an original story. It made it so easier to get a story out. I was able to develop characters that were more complex histories and backstories. It also helped with world-building. Setting a story in lord of the rings was so easy to transition to my own fantasy world, using Tolkiens' basics of his world building to create my own.
honestly fanfic is such a solid tool for getting an understanding of how other story writing goes. it often gets rid of the need to establish character or setting and lets people focus on more intimate details. and even then some writers fully just do their own thing and could change the names of characters and no one would ever know it started as a fanwork! fic writers are some of the most creative people ive ever met and many of them go on to work in the "industry".
And clearly a fake unfortunately. There simply wasn't enough time between updates. In one day (which they refer to as the last few days", they got STI testing, had a lawyer look at multiple wills and divorce, saw a therapist, cleared out a house and got the children relocated.. while six months pregnant and sorting out her fathers hospice? Not possible in the time frame
The story about the woman who got cheated on by her husband and best friend was so awful I was on the verge of tears. I can’t imagine how painful all of that turmoil at once must feel. She is so incredibly strong and I’m glad she has a solid support system
no forreal I teared up at MULTIPLE points thinking about how awful that would be. It honestly sounds like my worst nightmare. She was so strong and honestly badass, protecting her kids, doing everything right...like Courtney said, a superhero
Watching this now after knowing that they were dating is so cute! Especially the look Courtney gives Shayne after she says she watches the show while doing her make up is so cute
41:21 what an amazing woman, kind, grounded, not seeking petty revenge but just getting her shit done. She thought of literally everything to make sure she and her kids were safe. Amazing honestly.
And clearly a fake unfortunately. There simply wasn't enough time between updates. In one day (which they refer to as the last few days", they got STI testing, had a lawyer look at multiple wills and divorce, saw a therapist, cleared out a house and got the children relocated.. while six months pregnant and sorting out her fathers hospice? Not possible in the time frame
Honestly I cried. I felt for this woman. Loosing a parent to cancer is the worst, and I honestly don’t know how I would’ve handled the infidelity on top of that. She’s so strong and I hope her and her kids are continuing to be safe, healthy and happy. God bless her ❤
I LOVE that Kiana said Courtney is the number one fan of this show and that Courtney responds that she watches the show while doing her makeup :) Literally the opposite of Ian who we've found out doesn't watch the Smosh Pit videos at all basically LOL
Courtney is so wholesome and you can really tell she cares about her friends. She's constantly reassuring people and is the first to make comforting gestures when somebody makes a mistake on camera. Her level of empathy is something to aspire to
that pregnant woman is a saint. she sounds like a wonderful person and mother. the way she talks about her kids with them deserving the truth and i love that. the fact that she has gone through all of this and she’s still holding her head up high is AMAZING. she is so strong. i would be stuck in my bed all day for weeks if this happened to me. she is so mature and calm. i love her so much and i hope everything goes okay
@@Svol09 unlikely. her account was created in april. why would she create a new account just for karma. she wanted to get it off her chest, for real. the details are well written, and realistic. i feel like everyone claiming its fake have no idea what it is like to be emotionally mature and betrayed. this is exactly what i would do, and actually i was recently dumped via text completely out of the blue and i just accepted it immediately, took all my things and left as he said "you dont even want to try to work things out??" expecting me to beg for him. some people just really have the audacity
I was on the verge of tears the whole time during her post reading. The moment Courtney called her a super hero I finally broke. The amount of power she has for not only dealing with this, BUT SETTING HERSELF UP FOR SUCCESS AFTER. She is an amazing woman and mother, to be that example to her whole family.
"i'm about to lose my family and support system in one blow" it's so wonderful how many other people stayed rooting for her, without the best friend and husband. she kept her kids and took her husband's And best friend's families ! that's wonderful
Im actually really worried about that woman and her ex husband. He went to where they were and brought a baseball bat, trying to break down the door. That is NOT normal behavior, that man is dangerous
So she Luckily got full custody of the kids with supervised visitation and I think it was at the in-laws house or something [FIL was also there to keep an eye on them] and the eldest kid kept asking where OP was and when she'd come etc and the ex-husband got pissed and started throwing stuff so the judge made the supervision even stricter and they have to meet at a specific facility. The FIL takes the kids and stays even though he doesn't have to so he can keep an eye on it. It's such a sad situation but I think things are getting better :D
As an avid reader of them I love fanfics people are really creative and expand on ideas that I also enjoy. So the fact he makes fun of her pissed me off
Fanfic is such a complicated thing because even if you use characters and a world that's already built you put your own spin on it and have to work on keeping the essence of the original (if that's wanted) plus as he said she wrote a more than 100k fic if that's not writing (practice) then what is?
I can't begin to understand how his brain operated. It was her hobby/passion, and one she was embarrassed about. And his response is to attack it? To demean her in front of his family? Now she has to deal with the emotional scars of having someone she liked and trusted turning on her like that when she already felt vulnerable about it.
“The cheaters weren’t expecting any sort of consequences” that was a really insightful commentary from Courtney. Makes me think why do cheaters think they have done nothing wrong and why is it commonplace a lot of the times.
It's a mindset. Of course cheaters put their happiness above that of everyone else, so they expect everyone else to ALSO put the cheaters happiness above their own
@@aff77141 I don’t think it’s as much they want others to put their happiness above their own (most of the time) but mainly because when they are in the affair, they get so caught up in their own feelings that they forget about others. It is still a very selfish thing to do for someone.
The fact that the pregnant woman was able to not only escape from a serial cheater, but a hidden abuser is such an amazing result. I mean the fact that their house was torn apart with punch holes and that he took a baseball bat to the dad's door shows his true character and I can only imagine how worse it could have been if this side of him had been activated during their marriage while she and the kids were present. Good for her for escaping that situation!
I'm so glad she was able to dodge that cannonball sized bullet. 😢 That could have gone SO far south. I hope the judge in her case isn't an idiot and doesn't try to force custody and put those babies in harms way by handing them directly over to a freaking self admitted abuser who threatened to unalive them.
@SakuraMoonflower not to be a nitpicker (because I'm ABSOLUTELY going to nitpick), but a "cannonball sized bullet" is just a cannonball. Or a shell, I guess. Cannonball still works for the metaphor.
That woman is literally my hero, she is going through all of this WHILE PREGNANT and also respecting her kids and being a good mom and her attitude is literally the best she could possibly have considering that situation.
She co owns a tattoo parlor… literally a content creator, him saying she doesn’t understand has to be one of the most insulting things, she’s a professional artist
I rewound and re-watched Shane's sly "UPDATE!" smile/face and Courtney + Trevor's complete freak-out at least a couple dozen times; I cannot stop laughing at their reactions but holy crap, the pregnant woman's situation is SO rough! Best wishes to her for sure, and best Reddit episode so far to date!
As a fanfic writer, it's not that easy to write something good in fandoms. Everyone criticizes you because of how you portray the characters, getting hits or kudos is extremely hard. I have mad respect for successful fanfic writers.
Agreed. I'll add the caveat that I have even more respect for fanfic writers who succeed to write a story without repeating events from the original source material. Every so often, I see a comment on someone's fanfic complaining how the writer is repeating the same main plot (I mainly read Tensura/Slime fanfics) and it's boring for them to read through them. I click on their account and see zero fanfics published from them and it's ludicrous to make that complaint without trying to write a fully original fanfic while staying true to the personalities of multiple characters themselves. Don't know how it is for you as a writer, but from my experience, writing a fanfic, even if it's unpublished and will never see the light of day, is still very difficult. During quarantine, I decided to create a fanfic combining the worlds and characters of Tensura, Pokémon, Legends of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel 1-4, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 Royal & Strikers, and Love Live School Idol Project.... Many weeks go by where I make an edit, only to trash it immediately and end up with barely a few sentences to show for it.
As someone who attempted to write fanfiction, it's a lot of work. You not only have to use these characters and keep in mind these canon events you have to make sure your own characters are unique enough and that their story doesn't end up causing canon characters to act in a way that wouldn't make sense. Its insanely limiting with the stress of trying to create something of your own that fits in and also is different enough to be something of its own and people are brutal when they comment on it.
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I have read so many great fanfics over the years and I appreciate the writers because I know it’s not easy.
@@spectrum4524This is somewhat of a weird take, that I disagree with. Writing fanfiction is difficult, and writing good fanfiction is even more so. But to say that someone's criticism of a story holds less value because that person has never written themselves is where I disagree. By this standard, audiences opinions on movies or books hold little value because they haven't made a movie or written a book. The truth is, most fanfiction is cringe, and the reason is because people interpret characters from stories differently, and it's really difficult to portray a character the same way as another author.
One of my favorite things to point out about Fanfiction is how The Divine Comedy, by Dante, arguably one of the most well known poems in the world, is literally a self-insert Fanfiction. Like, Dante spends the entire saga painting himself as being BFFs with his favorite writers while he depicts all of his personal opponents and just people he didn't like as suffering in Hell. It doesn't make it any less prolific or meaningful, it just simply is what it is.
@@gray9818Wendigoon is a UA-cam channel that does… calming? commentary on various things, including a summarization and contextualization of the divine comedy. I like him, but will say the influence his religious beliefs have on content like Dante’s can be off putting
@@ScionStorm1 it’s not so much Bible fanfiction as an allegory of what Dante thought of the church at the time. It was basically a way for him to air out his grievances with the Catholic Church without him getting excommunicated.
Courtney being the biggest fan of Shayne's show is even sweeter now. Internet personalities watching their SO's vids so they can talk about it together later is one of those rare connections the internet was made for 💜
I have been in a car with a guy who did the whole "detour to spend more time together" it was honestly terrifying and it only lasted 10-15 minutes. I can't even imagine 6 HOURS. I legit started panicking asking where he was going while he laughed and said we were going to my friends house he was supposed to be dropping me off at. I told him we were going the opposite direction he again laughed and tried to start small talk back up. Lol. He refused to turn around until I really started panicking and threatened to jump out of the car. Long story short don't corner people to attempt to force something its so scary. Lol.
The laughing, wtf why do some guys think this is some silly little romantic activity. This is literally how most assaults and kidnappings happen, not some rando dragging you into a dark alley while you were walking home alone, but rather somewhere you thought was safe with someone you know who you thought you could trust.
@kaylawoodbury2308 exactlyyy the guy was nuts which I sadly found put after our first "date" which included him taking us to a cigar bar and asking for money for gas then ordering a drink for himself in front of the people who gave him money. He was shocked I didn't want anything to drink. I was mortified. After this "date" is when I asked to be taken to a friend's and he decided our date should last longer.
@@carijean37 Meanwhile I guarantee afterwards he hung out with his friends and ragged on you for being "psycho" and "paranoid" while trying to paint what he did in a cute, totally innocent gesture to just get to know you. It's just gross.
Duuude I've been there. My ex used to drive recklessly and without any destination any time we got in an argument while he drove. I legit feared for our lives.
40:40 has been updated again! The marriage is dead and gone, but the ex recognized how dangerous and upsetting his behavior was, so he's in anger management and therapy. He does supervised visits with the kids in a facility. Oh, and the ex bff found the post and commented some delulu crap about how the husband was gonna run away with her and they were in love. In the newest update, however, the ex husband left her high and dry. OP's father passed away about a week after everything happened, unfortunately. The baby has since been born and named after him. OP is still figuring out how to live in a world without him, but she's got her ex MIL and the ex bff's Mom (basically a second mother to her) to help pick up the pieces. And finally, Jack. He had to go back to his base, he couldn't extend his leave any more. They're not a thing for now as OP isn't ready to date, but he's said he'll always be a friend for her.
@@emma_ruth_design could have been a preemie. 7 months isn’t an uncommon point for premature babies to be born. Also because of the stress OP was going through it could have caused the premature birth.
The woman whose husband cheated on her is so fucking strong. She was on top of everything, she’s so determined to push through all this pain. She cares about her kids so much, and her dedication to being honest with them - “they’re small humans, but they’re still humans, and they deserve respect” - I love this woman. I hope one day I’m even half as brave as her.
Updates for commenters like me about “My husband cheated on me with my beefy friend”: Tyler found the post before she handed over divorce papers. He apologized for over reacting but same OP view on him as before. JESS THE BEST FRIEND THO made the choice to Comment on The Post. Identifying herself, and Tyler by their real names. Claiming they were planning to run away together, and insulting OP with failure to give birth level gross stuff. They kids now know and therapy is already set up. She’s on the up and up and is not planning on starting anything with Jake who confessed. He has also made no further advances and remained helpful.
I found this combo of Shayne, Courtney, and Trevor to be especially riveting for the Reddit stories format. Can't wait to see the three of you together in another vid! EDIT: Also the woman from the second-to-last story is absolutely legendary for how she handled her situation. I wouldn't wish what she went through on anyone. SHE CALLED THEIR MOTHERS.
Riiiiiight???!!! If I did ANYTHING like those two, the absolutely last person (after my partner) I would want to find out would be my MUM!!! Good on that woman and good on those mothers for not being blind to their children's vile behaviors.
The pregnant mother broke my damn heart. Her going to a cabin was probably the smartest move like- he could've hurt her. He probably was GOING to. I'm so happy that people around her are so supportive. It's so scary.
I swear that Shane did a lot to carry the channel while Anthony was gone. Dude's smart, genuine, and he's really funny. He needs more credit, man. Amazing host.
Courtney and Damien have also been massive driving forces for Smosh too. These three all carried Smosh in their own ways post-Defy and its good that Smosh can still thrive both with and without Anthony.
Absolutely! Even though i stopped watching when Anthony first left i did come back here and there and seen some clips. Man’s talented af. Truely the star of the bunch
Ikr, like I don’t get how such a perfect human being exists. He’s funny, intelligent, nice, respectful, humble, handsome, productive, open-minded, can act, can play the tuba, like holy shit
1:01:44 just read the latest update from op and she is doing great. her MIL and angie are helping her with the kids, her ex is not trying to get custody of the kids and won't even talk to her through a third party lmfao. her and jake are also seeing each other, but are not officially together. she seems to be doing well and is fairly active on reddit. it makes me so happy that she is doing well after such a huge loss. she's slaying ❤
I also just read her updates and I'm so happy for her I'm not even joking 😭😭 it's amazing that she has her "internet family" support, people are to kind to her there and she totally deserves it!!
I'm screaming with rage on the inside about the boyfriend calling out Abby about her fanfiction. As a 100k+ FF writer myself, that freaking hurts. I also did it as a hobby during Covid, as I was lucky enough to be able to work from home. I stopped writing it because of a troll that finally hit the right nerve, it's been 2 years now and I still make excuses not to write any of the stories because my confident is shot. Abby, if you're reading this, keep doing you. As a fellow FF Author, your ideas are 100% awesome!
You have my utmost respect. I have writing difficulties myself (I can read just fine through), so anyone who can produce words on a page regardless of quality is magic as far as I’m concerned. Quality writing is practically miraculous. Respect.
Hey, don't know if that helps you with motivation but I currently writing literature at a university in Germany there are not only multiple people who write or appreciate fanfictions them self, but smosh also were very correct on pointing out the inherent worth of fanfiction. If you want to write good, you are not born with that skill you need to practice regularly and everything is better than a blank piece of paper. Also feedback! Sounds like you got a lot of feedback and feedback is one of the most crucial things in writing if you want to make sure that your stuff does not only make sense in your head. Literally our whole writing practice in university is built on those two fundamentals and you got them for free. Additionally, yes of course there is 100% artistic value in fanfiction. So many classics of literature (like The Devin comedy or goethes faust) are built on other mythologies like the bible or Greek mythology, so why would there be any less value you doing that. It's not like Hollywood isn't constantly writing their own fanfictions for Star Wars, Batman or real life events. If anything it just becomes cooler if someone does it just for their own joy instead of for profit:)
Abby's ex and that troll are both morons. It must have taken massive amounts of creative effort to write so much and even if you don't wish to continue, you should be proud of what you've done. Don't listen to sad little people trying to put you down to lift themselves up.
Also I mean. "Technically" isn't stuff like new episodes of Doctor Who also 'fanfiction'. The current writers didn't create the main character and many of the characters and Backstories. They're basically like. Those "10 years later" fanfics. The only difference is nobody validated fanfic writers stories with a paycheck. But hey. It's still writing and creativity and ideas and that's great.
I made some good friends during the pandemic over Reddit because we bonded over video game fanfiction. They’re accomplished writers, one of their works still on going. It was so much fun to discuss headcannons, bounce ideas off eachother, and just have fun getting creative over the game. We’ve all read bad ff, but *good* ff takes real skill. It’s a worthy hobby, and can add so much joy to a fandom.
My heart breaks for the PHD Writer: her ex just bashed her in so many ways and yet he hasn't achieved as much. I personally have a long term hobby of writing original roleplay with a friend and sometimes I think about making parts of it a book but it doesn't have to be. My ex husband would bash my college, my work, so much and yet complained why I wasn't as motivated as before. Bashing and gaslighting are far too common and it destroys the soul. Very relieved the Writer was like /NO/ and didn't even try to communicate with him because he didn't deserve that. Also 100% agree Video Games are far more important and it is a form of visual art that honestly can be better than movies. Addiction happens in anything, and video game addictions have hurt me and others- but I appreciate them and love to watch gameplays mainly for the visual experience. Games aren't silly (usually) they're still a piece of art that's a new level of interactive play.
Would you happen to know CritiqueCircle? It's a place for aspiring authors to publish their work in order to receive critiques from other people and provide critiques in return. It's a well-intentioned community (from my experience) and one that could help you take the next step in your writing journey.
I think he was 100% jealous of her having a PhD, otherwise he wouldn't have said that "she is not that smart she writes fanfiction" bullshit that he called a "joke"
That op in the PhD story is 100% insecure about her being smarter than him and was looking for something to hold over her head to give himself some form of superiority. That's why it wasn't until his family was impressed with her degree and career that he felt the need to -joke- tear into her hobby .
I went to undergrad for Creative Writing. It’s not the top program, but we graduated several kids to go to Sarah Lawrence and Iowa (😑). Of the ~10 Fiction majors who intended to write a full novel, I think only one my year actually did so. (Not trying to flex, this story just made me furious. I didn’t end up finishing my novel either.) Also, defending a dissertation is *hard*. There’s tons of academics that go “ABD” for several years. I feel like he didn’t want to understand the work and effort it took her to get the achievements that he’s measuring himself by. (Also, 100K is a solid word count for a YA book before final edits. Especially if it’s intended to be a series. She may be done and just needs a good *friend* to edit with.)
The "Just wanted to get to know her" guy almost made me sympathetic until I realized just how much of a creep he was. As someone with autism I can understand having very formal and blunt language, especially when typing. However, that doesn't excuse his objectification of her and his doubling down when said creepiness was pointed out to him. I can also understand on a base level how, in his mind, this was an opportunity to connect with someone. I can even understand checking out the trail beforehand because he wanted to be prepared. Where I draw the line is that instead of just talking to her during the scheduled three hours of walking, he felt the need to lie to her and mislead her. As a rule of thumb, I don't like lying, but especially during this circumstance. The thought of being stuck on a trail with a stranger for six hours - no matter what issues they may or may not have - but especially if that person is constantly making unwanted advances towards me, is horrifying. And I truly feel for that poor woman. It's really hard to listen to some of these stories because I want to give someone the benefit of the doubt, especially when there are aspects of them I can relate to, but honestly, that guy is so insane that all my sympathy for him evaporated the moment he started objectifying her. And it withered away into nothing the second he started telling her the maps were wrong. This guy definitely needs social interaction, but probably with a therapist first.
This guy needs to be watched, and a therapy not focused on him feeling better but one that is focused on deprogramming his predatorial behaviour. As you say he barely sees her as anything other than an object for him to use, he also continues to think "she will come to her senses" which shows he doesn't respect a "no I never want to see you again". This was isolating and sexually harrassing a woman, but I fear what he could do next.
I think you can tell how lovely the pregnant woman was from how others reacted to her situation. The parents all sided with her and her boss even allowed her to come back to work. She clearly has made good/positive connections with people.
I’ve never been a fan of Smosh until recently when I saw the reunion. I came across one of these videos about a week ago and I’ve been hooked. I’ve been watching so many of these videos and the stories are insane! Keep them coming cause I’m hooked 😂😂😂
there is literally a who meme'd it where they show a meme that says smosh at 99% power is just shayne and they all kinda agreed, he's been the fan favourite for years he gets plenty of recognition just to clarify, i think shayne's great, hes one of my faves too but he gets plenty of recognition
I think he gets a lot of credit, but it’s true that Smosh might have folded in the last six years without him. He cares so deeply and really seems to support all the people he works with.
40:41 I hope the OP gets a swift divorce and full custody of all children. I hope she continues to be strong for her kids and especially herself. I’m proud that she took the initiative to have better for herself and kids rather than stay in a toxic relationship. When hearing how violent the soon to be ex got makes me glad that she and her kids were no where around and somewhere safe. I’m also glad both sets of parents and the sibling of the ex sided with OP and supported her. I hope the exs both continues to have the worst karma come to them.
There was an update made about two weeks ago in the comments: Hi everyone. I know a lot of people are still asking for an update. Not much has happened but here are the things that have happened. • Tyler discovered the post and asked me if I was seeking a divorce. I said I was. He apologized for losing his cool. Asked if there was any hope for reconciliation, I said no. We did have a conversation about the kids, and he’ll be allowed to see them with supervision to which he agreed to. • I had another meeting with my lawyer, nothing of major importance happened. • Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has happened with Jake. He didn’t take back his confession but as I said it’s on the back-burner for a long while. My kids health and well-being take priority over all else. • my dads health is on a steady decline. He’s now in the hospital with no release date in the immediate future. Please send over thoughts and well wishes his way. • my kids are adjusting well. We have a therapy appointment for them scheduled next week to help them. My oldest has more questions then the rest but I’m trying to save any big conversations for the therapy appointment so I know I’m conveying the answers in a meaningful and the least harmful way. Also my oldest made try outs for the traveling soccer league, yay! :) oh and the baby is doing great! Things have calmed down a lot. Truly. I feel like I have a better grip on things. I’ve been putting most of my focus on my dad and kids to keep myself busy. Thanks you friends for the love, support, and for checking in ❤️
Op that caught her ex husband’s affair has a few more updates: ex husband has gone no contact with op and kids and has remarried with a new kid on the way. Jess showed up to op’s house and caused a scene before involving the cops, tried to pick up her oldest kid from school but was stopped by the staff, and harassed op’s work to get her fired with fake complaints. Op has a Restraining order that is in effect. Jake has moved in and is fully stepped up for Op and kids, promising to adopt the kids when they get married.
Added to clarify: Jess had called the cops on OP after walking into her kitchen while op was holding a knife for cooking and claimed op had threatened her but they have cameras all over the house and were able to prove Jess had just walked in uninvited and op didn’t threaten her
Telling the moms before confronting the husband and best friend WAS the psychological warfare. Possibly the best psychological warfare I've ever seen in one of these.
True in effect, but the point being that it wasn't malicious as such even when that would've been fully justified, much less was it even her intent to inflict harm.
She was so clearly focused on doing everything possible to hedge her bets of coming out on top, her judgment was completely unclouded by the shitstorm around her, she wasted no energy being vindictive and ultimately did better than 99% of people coulda done to ensure the best outcome for everyone primarily her kids.
This is exactly why she is the GoaT. 🐐💃
That was the best story !!
She didn't want to give them any chance of manipulating the story
Risky tho, cause many parents are enablers
@@DanJuegaTRUE, I was worried for a bit. But I'm glad how it turned out. She is surrounded by good people.
Trevor being spot on with predicting the "longer route" post is gold.
It was so accurate, I thought he heard it before
I was freaking out for that one, truly. He could not have been more right, this guy's post, his mindset, the phrasing, the entire lack of boundaries... my god
Waiting for the post to end up on r/AmITheDevil because what the actual FUCK
I thought this was a comment about the chronic infidelity guy because he took the longer route in the story 😅
Trevor’s gay… but in a good way
I’m a hiker. That man endangered her life and Courtney is 100% right that he kidnapped her. I can only imagine what he actually said to her while describing her body. I hope the group went beyond kicking him out and told other clubs what he did.
Yeah I agree, what he did was borderline serial kill Ted bundy type stuff - no thanks
After studying a little bit of law, this was textbook entrapment. How revolting!
Guys like this are why you stay strapped in the woods. Imagine how scared she must have been when she realized this guy had led her deep into the woods without her knowledge. She had literally no where to go and had no idea how far he’d take his advances with no one around to help her.
This is 100% something that rapists and serial killers use to lure their victims
@@personman8734terrifying
For the hiking story: THE INITIAL HIKE WAS 3 HOURS! Did you really need a detour?! Like 3 hours is plenty enough time to make a connection. This is terrifying.
I mean it's pretty clear how he describes his life and his and other peoples actions that he's a probably neurodivergent hermit who's been isolated from society for too long
@@thedudefromrobloxx, he's a predator, whether he's ND or not
I'm autistic and ADHD AF and have never kidnapped anyone
@@janeeyre1990 I'm also ND, my point was to mainly focus on the isolation and how that distorts a persons view of acceptable behavior that can compound with the possible difficulties being ND brings. Didn't mean to associate it with automatic predatoryness, sorry if it came off like that
@@thedudefromrobloxxno reason to mention neurodivergent, as it just causes association.
@@thedudefromrobloxxnope, he saw nothing wrong in the way he described her, he literally sexualized her, the one thing we got to know about her was her style of humor was childish💀this man is most likely an incel because how do you think women want you to describe their bodies 🤣
the way Shayne perfectly delivered that stone-cold *"UPDATE."* with Trevor and Courtney losing their minds needs to be preserved in a museum
Timestamp pls?
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That was epic!
I rewatched it 3x in a row 😂😂😂😂
Fun fact: the EX BFF found the post and commented on it... Even giving their real names. She was saying that they were in love and that the ex husband said he would run away with the ex BFF. 😂
I teared up when she mentioned she saw her dad love her mom for 12 years unconditionally and won’t accept anything less.
Me too. What an insanely well-adjusted person
As a parent myself, it reminded me how important it is to model healthy relationships for my child. I like to think we do, but it’s a strong reminder.
I might have been imagining it but i think Shane did too 🥹
It gave me hope
This is the mindset all women need to have and I love it so much.
adult women in fandoms writing 100k+ masterpieces are the unseen backbone of fandom, especially smaller fandoms. literally cut from the same cloth as the housewives making spirk fanzines in the 1970s. the fandom foremothers.
They are doing free marketing as well. Most popular books have been fan fiction as well. Good luck to her on her books, hope she will update with the links to her books
Oh yes. I've been reading FF for about 10 years now. They create such beautiful pieces of work for FREE and out of pure passion. I admire them truly.
no literally, if she had a PhD and was writing 100k+ words, i just KNOW that fic is amazing
@@HugoHatchal That's because most fanfic writers are amateur, and most fanfic IS cringe. What does adults writing the original work have to do with it? Lol
I've written two rare pair fics, it's so rewarding to see the comments gushing about finally seeing their otp get a longer fic. It makes my day every time there's a new one.
40:41 UPDATE dropped JUST TODAY. She's doing great! Tyler's ghosted completely-- literally refused to see the kids and even his dad can barely reach out to him. Jess has been dating ANOTHER MARRIED GUY and has been disowned by her parents. OP is dating Jake and seems to be doing genuinely great after everything. So, happy ending, I hope?
That’s awesome!
Aww so happy to hear!!! Thanks for updating!
Yyeeaayy 😁🙌🏼✨
I screamed!! I'm so happy and hope Jake and her make it!!
Glad she has Jake. Tyler and Jess are absolute trash and I'm glad they both have no one.
The biggest red flag for the hiking story is that the moment he was confronted about his plan, he immediately deflected any blame towards himself being saying "oh my body's just reacting to your desirable features, my biological responses"
Also the fact that he thought "the hike is around 3 hours, but no that isn't enough time to chat with this woman we need AT LEAST SIX HOURS"
He's lucky she sounds very nice and calm, too. I would've ditched his ass, called him a perv and found my way to another group, if not beat the shit out of him.
That's joe from you level of craziness
Honestly though, she dodged a bullet.
Trusting loose aquaintances in isolated places is how a lot of people end up with their picture on a milk carton.
Imagine walking the trail with someone you've just met and slowly realising you're being lied to as you're lead off the path. Then they turn around and tell you how they have "biological responses" to you. That's a horror story right there
For real I was thinking she was about to get killed
@@sofiah1174 yeah i was like did i switch to a true crime show all of a sudden
Yes I’d think that I was going to die for real
Literally I can’t even begin to comprehend how scary that would’ve been for her
What freaks me out about this guy is how robotic he is about everything, he opens it up with talking about recording data to see how social or anti social he had been recently
And even his justification of his original description of her appearance in the comments is like,” why is it a bad decision, that is the accurate description of her physical appearance as described” like everything is broken down into its rawest and most simple depictions and framed as data for him to use like that is just really freaky thinking about it
That woman is a superhero. The fact that she, while pregnant, was able to be calm enough to read that shit and be capable of holding it and pretend nothing happened for a whole day while preparing to leave him. Damn!
Read and also she hints at seeing the lewd pics and sex tape.
Unfortunately, I can relate to this story too well. This woman is indeed a superhero 🦸♀️
Shout out to all the moms, without them we wouldn’t be the people we are and that woman’s true super power is being a great mom!
She’s the most put together human being I’ve ever seen. She knew what she had to do and she did it
she may have lost a relationship and friendship but she gained two moms for life
Taking a detour that takes 3 hours longer than the whole hike should be is terrifying. She was probably scared out of her mind being stuck alone with him.
Plus, 3 hours of chatting, exercise and working together is already a pretty good first date, right? Take it slow, brother.
Yeah, that guy literally sounded like a human AI model. His descriptions were unbelievably cringy.
And men wonder why women choose the bear over them. This shit is fucking insane!!!!
@@jss1328 He 100% has autism and probably have never had anyone teach him how to socialise properly since it's probably infuriating to hangout with him.
Who knew a video that started with "I unionized with my dogs" would eventually lead us to the most intense, gut-wrenching, rollercoaster of a story thus far in this series
Wait until you read the post about the MIL who assaulted her pregnant daughter in law. It might be one of the most unhinged Reddit stories I've encountered.
That story with the pregnant woman at 40:46 was the actual longest 20 minutes EVER. Just listening to that and how strong she was and I'm so glad the parents of the bff and ex husband were supportive of the wife. Holy shit I wish the best for her
My stomach was actually in knots listening to that. I had to pause and take a break in the middle because it was so overwhelming. I hope everything works out for her and that she and her babies stay safe!!
She’s so lucky to have support and the ability to leave.
43:04 Courtney's face. Me too. :(
Literally, I felt NAUSEOUS.
Currently listening to it a second time. I can’t fathom this story
Shayne's look into the camera and "Update" at 49:55 went so hard, he truly floored the room
The smug little smile he gave afterwards too: he knew he landed that line PERFECTLY.
Might be one of the best Shayne deliveries since “Chapter Two”
I had to rewatch it right when it happened lmao
He’s tooooo good I was like “he can’t keep getting away with this!!”
seriously i got full-body cuills
The hiking story: We are just glossing over that that man still thinks he has a shot? Or, more so, he absolutely refuses to take "no" for an answer.
That her saying "stay as far away from me as possible" somehow translates in his mind to "She doesn't really want me to leave her alone. She's into me, she's just temporarily confused about that.".
He seems like a chronically online neurodivergent hermit. Not a recipe for success
@@thedudefromrobloxx you are deciding to diagnose a predator you know only from a post, and chronically online is sadly not true since this woman had to experience the terror of him isolating her and sexually harrassing her. To top the facts this comenter pointed out, a dangerous person overall. I've seen you respond the same to a bunch of comments. And I think you should reconsider, because by how you talk about it, it plays down what he did (as if it was a stupid weirdo and not calculated and sharing a lot of ideas born of systematic objectification of women) and atribute too much to a neurodivergency you don't know if he has (which comes across as atributing bad acts to neurodivergency, and not who he really is or what he thinks)
@@raelrojas5263he is very clearly not neurotypical though, it’s extremely obvious from how he writes
@@thedudefromrobloxx Yeah because any kind of aberrant creepy behavior is totally neurodivergence, lol
@@LordVader1094 Yea sorry for trying to understand people instead of just putting the creep label on them. I don't call him neurotypical necessarily for thr creepy actions, but more the way he explains them. Jesus christ.
49:55
Shane looked so proud of himself when he said “update” and the resulting screams had me dying! Reddit with Shane is honestly becoming the highlight of my week.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT!!!!! I TRULY SCREAMED WHEN HE SAID UPDATE
@@coolgirl3124 I didn't think there was going to be that second update (as this was recorded like a month ago) so I researched the post to see if I could find it which I couldn't. To then unpause the video and hear that there was actually an update had me in literal tears 😂
@@BrownNinja777 found another update! She posted it 19 days ago (the update Shane read was 24 days ago)
OP:
Hi everyone. I know a lot of people are still asking for an update.
Not much has happened but here are the things that have happened.
• Tyler discovered the post and asked me if I was seeking a divorce. I said I was. He apologized for losing his cool. Asked if there was any hope for reconciliation, I said no. We did have a conversation about the kids, and he’ll be allowed to see them with supervision to which he agreed to.
• I had another meeting with my lawyer, nothing of major importance happened.
• Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has happened with Jake. He didn’t take back his confession but as I said it’s on the back-burner for a long while. My kids health and well-being take priority over all else.
• my dads health is on a steady decline. He’s now in the hospital with no release date in the immediate future. Please send over thoughts and well wishes his way.
• my kids are adjusting well. We have a therapy appointment for them scheduled next week to help them. My oldest has more questions then the rest but I’m trying to save any big conversations for the therapy appointment so I know I’m conveying the answers in a meaningful and the least harmful way. Also my oldest made try outs for the traveling soccer league, yay! :) oh and the baby is doing great!
Things have calmed down a lot. Truly. I feel like I have a better grip on things. I’ve been putting most of my focus on my dad and kids to keep myself busy.
Thanks you friends for the love, support, and for checking in ❤️
"update" and the look into the camera like he's on the office 😂
@@Ciela531 thank you so much for the update. Like while I do have fantasies about the whole "omg the one for me was here all along" with Jake maybe happening, I'm so happy this strong and smart woman said I'm upset but I have to think of myself AND my kids and not just my kids because while well meaning, kids can tell when you aren't happy. So glad she's doing okay and I hope she gets the closure and support after her father has passed. I hope a lot of people in difficult relationships can learn from this BAMF woman just holy shiz
That poor woman, there's no chance she didn't think she was going to be assaulted, she had been travelling through a forested trail and she was lost with a dude she barely knew then the dude starts describing her in the most inappropriate way, 100% she was scared for her life
thats all i could think about while they read that one
She probably is still amazed herself that she survived 6 hours in the woods with a Patrick Bateman-type and lived to tell the tale.
100% dude is honestly lucky to be uninjured, if I had been that scared I would have grabbed the nearest heavy object and went on the offensive. He already has you isolated… you can’t let when get ahold of you or something, too. Yeah, I would have freaked…
I honestly wonder if he is on the autism spectrum, as he doesn't seem too understand how to communicate and connect with people, and how to process people's reactions. He needs counseling, imo, to work through his EXTREME social awkwardness. That poor girl, I can't imagine the panic she felt.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 agreed, I assumed undiagnosed/unaddressed ASD was PART of the problem the moment there was data being reviewed to determine he needed to socialize more. But it's definitely not the entire problem with him, as he made it to 19 without previously learning that you can't treat women like Sims characters to make them date you. I know 7 year olds on the spectrum that already know more about personal boundaries and listening to their peers when they voice concern/fear in a situation.
I'm not gonna lie, for the story about the guy not invited to the wedding, I sincerely thought for the first minute that this was the opposite side of the "my husband can't come to my sister's wedding because he likes to piss himself" story from one of the earlier episodes of this series and we were hearing the husband's perspective finally.
Omg I thought that immediately too 😂😂
He LIKES to piss himself?? Whaaat? Which video was that on? 😂
@@CharlieApples the holiday stories, it was like one of the first ones in this format with Shayne, Kimmy and Chanse were the guests. The very final story literally starts out the same way as the wedding story in this one from a different perspective, like "would I be the assh*le for not going to my sister's wedding. My family doesn't like my husband because of this one specific issue" and so on. But the set ups are very similar from like the opposite perspectives, both insane stories in their own right.
SAME
Omg no not piss-boy don't remind me 😭😭😭
Cortneys scream to the "I don't want to know about your biological responses to me" is a fucking mood. You could feel and hear the absolute fear, disgust and discomfort in that scream
I’m surprised no one has mentioned how fanfics are a great way to practice writing because you’re working with characters that are already established, so you can focus more on fleshing out the storyline. So not only is it valid, it’s actually very practical.
Yeah! They just get a really bad rep because of the shipper community part of it. It's fair, but sad
Right! I love to write and post my work, it's just a fun thing to do. Dude is a dick for trying to put her down
yess even reading them can help! it cancels out the character building and helps you focus on the narrative aspect. i read a lot of fanfics as a teen and now i'm working on writing my own stories thanks to it :)
it also helps stick to existing personalities. useful for tv or movie writing since everything is an adaptation, a remake or a sequel lol
Your comment is written so well, I feel like you just might be a writer yourself 🤔
Courtney's gutteral scream after "biological reactions" was the only appropriate response
17:22 in case you need the time stamp
@@mirjamk2882time stamp people are the greatest people. Thanks
literally- 😭 I screamed internally… (because it’s 5AM) holy shit.
And then the follow up of “HELLO?!” Jesus fuck. That was nuts.
i immediately liked the vid after that response that was the only correct response
The pregnant woman one, must be the most absolute angelic person alive considering 3 separate families chose her side. Like 2 families disowned their children for her (which they absolutely should honestly) but seriously. What a woman. I respect her so much.
Honestly it is a little scary. Kinda gives me Gone Girl vibes.
The sad thing is, I read through comments. A lot of people think the story is fake as a result of that point
We have to bring femicide into this discussion.
Femicide is when women are murdered because they're women, or out of hatred for women. Every single day 238 women are killed intentionally, according to United Nations Population statistics.
These murders are typically committed by (in most cases cis-male) exes.
We have to raise awareness about this problem. And we have to keep femicide in the backs of our heads when we read stories like these. A pregnant woman shares with us how she, her children and her father were chased by a violent ex (who had to be restrained during an earlier meeting with all parents).
She terrifies me, like girl went straight for the jugular XD
She had recently made an update
Update for Tyler & Jess Story 9 days ago:
First off unfortunately her father has passed away and OP is doing okay as she knew it was coming but still has her bad days.
Tyler has ghosted her and her kids( I say her Kids cause he no contact and doesn’t seem to care) He is remarried and has a kid on the way. His parents were sent an invitation but refused to go.
Jess however is a different story, not too long ago she snuck into OPs house while OP was cooking and Jake was outside with the kids. OP held Jess at knifepoint screaming at her to get out. Jake heard the yelling came in and restrained her. Jess began yelling she came there to beg for forgiveness and then yelled she would ruin OPs life. The police got involved and Jess lied her butt off saying she was lured over there and Jake attacked her. The cops did not buy her story and a protection order was put in place. Then OP contacted the school and alerted them and made it crystal clear who were the only people allowed to pick up the kids just in case.
To end on a more happy note, Jake has left the military has been back since Christmas and they are dating but taking it slow.
You are truly an angel for the update. 🙏🏻 59:47
i was SOOOO hoping they'd get together, that's such a good comeback story
The way the pregnant woman with the cheater handled that situation with grace, ease, and integrity... despite being in the midst of grief... so inspiring. Women. The way all the parents sided with her lets you know she is a genuinely good person.
And she managed to be that smart and calm in this hellhole of a situation while controlling her emotions affected by her ever-changing hormones from her pregnancy. Damn! I've already gone past puberty and even if there's nothing stressing me in my life, I don't think I can handle that.
Amen 🙏
Seriously! She is made of STEEL.
mhm, that was all i could think that whole time. she genuinely seems like the best person ever, despite everything she’s gone through and is going through currently she still manages to have all her shit together and be so strong and optimistic, WHILE PREGNANT i might add. her whole story was incredibly inspiring.
i think as well her being pregnant with a dying father & already having two very young kids made it very easy for the parents to back her.
the grandparents obviously want to foster a good relationship with their grandkids & ensure they are kept safe & happy. turning on the OP & defending their son would have just meant they lost their grandchildren.
& OP mentioned a few times that her former best friend has been problematic, as well as how they grew up together from babies. so her parents likely see OP as a second daughter & having their actual daughter hurt her in this way when she is so vulnerable (again, pregnant, young kids, dying father) was the last straw for them.
i know they mentioned finding the parents reactions rare & refreshing, but given all the variables at play here i think only a monster would be against OP in this scenario.
UPDATE FROM THE TYLER AND JESS STORY AS OF 22 DAYS AGO:
Tyler laid down and rolled over. They're now officially divorced and he did not fight her on anything. She has full custody and he has VERY SUPERVISED visitation. OP's dad passed away, and she has decided to name the baby after him, MIL and Angie are the best grandma's ever. Jake and OP are not currently together, but she has promised that if it happens she will update.
you're an angel for giving an update
Thank fuck.....this needs to be a damn hallmark movie! And I would actually watch it!
UPDATE AS OF 3 DAYS AGO: the baby boy is hereeeee, and she is not with Jake lol
they have to read the updates on this story in a future episode
Further update, Tyler kicked a stink when she wouldn't allow him in the delivery room after all that he put her through! Jess showed up to her dad's funeral. Also he has visitation only at a facility because he had another violent outburst when the oldest child was asking him questions at their second meetup so the judge made it a requirement that there be tighter supervision (didn't hit the kid but threw stuff around)
the pregnant woman’s story is such a heartbreaking one BUT WHAT A STRONG WOMAN!! The way she wrote, expressed herself, did not think about ‘revenge’ and how she handled herself is incredible. even during tough times she was standing her ground, just wow!
That is a person that knows their self worth!
I was going to say this too! She’s incredibly strong in herself; if I was going through something similar, I don’t know that I would’ve made it out ok. Also, how lucky are her children that their mother is such a strong woman?!? She’s amazing, a superhero honestly.
Girl lost what she thought was her biggest support system (her husband and best friend) and is unfortunately losing her father, only to find this great new support system, the parents and the brother, it's kind of beautiful
I thought it was kinda funny how she said she didn't get revenge because I was just like "girl, you left BOTH of them high and dry with whiplash, neither of them have their parents, and their parents are the ones that confronted them, not you... you didn't just get revenge, you got NUCLEAR revenge!!!"
That woman is losing her father, lost his partner and the father of her children and her best friend, took care of ALL legal things incredibly fast all while being pregnant, while the other guy confessed his love for her from years ago to top it off. The WILL, the STRENGTH she has is inmense. I admire her so much and I wish all good things for her
plot twist: that story was written by PHD girl actually
@@laispersonal9841 Honestly if PHD girl would find that post and write a book about it I'd totally read it!
@@annabir6361That's is the greatest idea I've ever heard.
@@annabir6361 I was thinking the whole time that someone better by the rights to the pregnant lady's story. But better yet: have PhD girl write it.
Yeah it sounds incredible because it's likely not true 😂
• story of the hiker had MAD Criminal Minds energy. He's absolutely going to murder someone.
• fanfic story had me so irritated, like so much fanfic has become canon, driven entire series, CREATED series (hello, Mandalorian), that disdain for it HAD to be pure jealousy. She deserves so much more.
• delved into the reddit thread with the pregnant woman's saga... it got insane! Update, ex husband Toby (Tyler) and ex-bf Jade (Jess) FOUND THE THREADS (Jade revealed their actual names) and Jade legit told OP she hoped she MISCARRIES. In-fucking-sane.
Can you give me the link for this comment? I'm not a reddit user and it's hard to scroll lots of times
Holy fuck
Oh, Jade. Never tell reddit your first name, that's how they find you. That divorce case is so open and shut. And custody battle. And alimony ruling.
@@Knucklebone22 Lmao yeah.. I really do think those two are on some major drugs. Their behavior is beyond erratic at this point.
OH, those cheaters are *so* gonna get harassed in public now, especially with them revealing their real names.
As a woman with multiple degrees (one dissertation away from the PhD) who also loves fanfiction, I definitely appreciated everyone's opinions on the guy who wanted to minimize his gf and her accomplishments. ❤
As a man with great PeDigree I couldn't agree more.
I mean some fan fiction writers have sold movies soooo … fuck that guy .
As a person with no relevant experience or qualifications. I agree
Yes. Good thing the rubbish stank early on.
As a woman with multiple degrees and who got her PhD almost a year ago (wishing you the best of luck on your dissertation), I love watching Pokémon. It’s something I do for me. I love hearing about people’s hobbies, of all kinds! Fan fiction, gaming, baking, reading, whatever.
story 6: anyone who wants an update with op and the brother: they have been dating about 5-6 months and he just moved in, he says that once (not if) they get married, he'll adopt the kids; her oldest kid wants to call him dad and the others don't even mention their dad anymore and said that he used to be mean when she wasn't looking. The dad is remarried and has a kid on the way and she just got a 7 yr restraining order on Jess after she showed up and walked in her house unannounced.
Tyk 🌸
Jess is just waiting to get her ass beat with that behavior. It won't be OP, it won't be her parents that disowned her, but SOMEONE will just give her a ring-wearing beatdown that forever makes it hard for her to sleep with married men and it will be entirely her own fault with that attitude.
omg what an update. im so glad life is working out overall well in her favour now
спасибо
@Juupitrr
Also Jess tried to kidnap one of her kids and then Jess tried getting back at Tyler via contacting with his new gf/now wife to ruin his new relationship, but got his new gf/now wife to block her crazy ass. And since Jess is a basically a serial cheater, she lost all of her friends and blames OP for her ruined life.
I think that's everything but I might be missing one more thing or a couple.
Honestly the 'we should have filmed this tomorrow for the update', a few beats of silence, then a deadpan 'UPDATE' AND Trevor and Courtney going crazy was incredible - I've rewatched just that part so many times 😂
Courtney screaming at “my biological responses” was so good.
I bad for that guy mainly because he needs help and probably constantly thinks people "misunderstand" him.
Bro is a dangerous, loosely assembled tangle of red flags, and he needs to realize that.
Good on everyone in that group for calling him out and disassociating with him. Not everyone's problems are yours to fix. That man needs PROFESSIONAL help.
It sounds like he has some form of autism, either that he doesn’t want to admit or that went undiagnosed
@@DJKuroh i dunno, not defending him but this screams undiagnosed on the spectrum of some sort, but good on bro for recognizing he needed to get out and touch grass.
@@user-xw1lh7zt7nI was thinking the same thing. What he did was absolutely wrong but he needs therapy 100% if he’s refusing to acknowledge WHY it was wrong and not understanding.
I’m almost certain dude was an alien or robot
it's literally insane to me how this man went "yeah i'll take a woman i barely know out to the middle of the woods to deepen our connection"
And how much he dehumanizes her 🤢
They usually think about it if the woman is ugly. 😓
And I bet you if she had expressed any concern beforehand, she would have been labeled a manhater and prejudice. Many women had died because they are kind.
@@alexiatr Really? Nobody really gets on a woman's case for just not wanting to hang out with a guy, certainly not "manhater" and "prejudice" except in online manosphere spaces, I doubt her friends would act that way towards her. But you are right about kindness often leading to exploitation.
Unless you mean this guy labelling her those things, in which case you're right.
49:57 the smile on Shayne’s face is priceless. The mix of “I’m about to blow my friends minds” but also pure joy is so fun to see.
Trevor: Why couldn't we have filmed this tomorrow so we have the update
Shayne: UPDATE
Trevor and Courtney: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAYYYY 🤯🤯
That was so iconic 😂😆 I love how invested they were with the story.
I'm glad Mythical and Smosh are still doing stuff. Trevor especially has such great chemistry with them.
I was curious if theyd still shoot in the same warehouse(?)/office or move it somewhere else since the buyout, im glad theyre still in the same space
This video was recorded about 24 days ago, before the buyout. Idk if Mythical and Smosh will still collab. If they do (and God, I want them to) it's gonna be a new era for Smosh and GMM
Mythical still owns a small part of smosh so I imagine collabs and things will still be fairly regular, which im happy as heck for.
@@Yagerbombs83I was gonna say, i doubt they dropped all ownership! Is this confirmed?
@@panthastaa34 Smosh moved a few months ago, they haven't been in the same studio for a while.
Dude basically abducted a woman, for SIX HOURS, and CANNOT SEE THAT. Holy. Shit.
THIS IS WHY WOMEN GET SO SCARED
In the mf woods nonetheless. It’s giving…next big JCS video ✨
even the phrasing of the post, just straight up American Psycho shit
He’s gonna be in a dateline episode
he honestly sounds like he's on a spectrum or has some sort of mental disability, mind you this is no excuse.
That Zelda guy’s wife is extremely lucky he helped so much with that party she should never have planned. He seems great.
Yeah I would never plan something when my partner has expressed that he wants to do something else that is important to him.
She's definitely the asshole.
@@Haybear_92 I think you can plan things when someone expresses they want to do something for months, just handle it yourself and 100 PERCENT thank him/her for even helping your last minute plan. She was an asshole about it tho with how she was.
He cleaned and helped. Wow she was so the asshole😂
Yeah having strangers in my house when I planned on specifically chilling in there would kill some of my vibe. But if they had a home theater I guess it would be somewhat different since it’d be in a more contained space.
Yes, He was great! He communicated well. He even gamed around the party. He was the perfect host/gamer. He did better than most partners with no other plans. Lol
I'd hire him as a co-host to clean, prep, serve, greet and see everyone off! His wife is tripping. She has great partner!
THE FACT THAT THE PREGNANT LADY IMMEDIATELY HAD THE EX BEST FRIENDS BROTHER CONFESS HIS FEELINGS IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER WHILE HE LITERALLY ACTED LIKE A SECOND FATHER TO THE CHILDREN MAKES ME SCREAM AND KICK WITH JOY LIKE HUMANITY HAS HOPE GUYS
she made an update and its a very good closing update
Great guy, needs to work on his timing though
@@targaryenbatman5728
In my opinion, I feel like the manner in which he confessed makes up for the timing here.
@@wakisabeas a guy who has been in a similar situation and did confess my feelings, I find his timing distasteful and selfish even though I don't think he is a bad guy. When someone is vulnerable and has just suffered a betrayal and feels alone, sure, you can think to yourself that letting them know people will still want them and be interested in them and love them is somehow helping, but it's also somewhat predatory if it works in your favor and it can be devastating to them if you've been there as their support through this and they don't want to take it anywhere because no matter how many times you say it doesn't need to go anywhere or even be addressed and that it's okay if they're not interested and you're not going to try to pursue them romantically it can place a seed of doubt into their mind about whether you're being a good friend who is there for them because you love them as a supporting friend or if you have ulterior motives leading to them potentially feeling significantly more alone and betrayed. He's not instantly a jerk for it, but it was not the time and place for it in my honest opinion.
Ngl someone needs to link this video to the original post
The husband and best friend story is especially crazy cause this woman seems like straight up the kindest most perfect human being to ever exist. She’s an incredible mother who treats her kids with respect and doesn’t act like they’re not people, she’s somehow managing to stay afloat whilst her father is losing his memory and she’s so wonderful that both the cheaters parents straight up dropped their children immediately and just adopted her. This woman is a saint
A round of applause for OP for being such a strong person
And lets not forget shes pregnant during the whole thing. I think the only appropriate way to describe her is she has balls of titanium
The fact that the mothers and fathers were all amazing too, like no tolerance for that crap and the disappointment in their kids while supporting someone who was wronged and not their child. She is pregnant and dealing with multiple loses but battling through it, she may not feel it but she is showing massive strength.
The pregnancy cheater story was a wild ride! I'm 8 months pregnant and i couldnt imagine being in her situation. If by any chance OP ever sees this, you are a badass. So many people are so so proud of you. You are a rockstar for standing up for yourself and whats best for your kiddos. You have all the support in the world.
What do you thing the S in S-mosh pit stands for?
It came across as made up. So much happened in 24 hours. Meeting lawyers, a confrontation with the entire extended family, a gynaecologist appointment etc
I'm Bipolar so emotions hit me like a brick and it was worse when I was pregnant. For her to stay strong and not break down took so much strength. This women is amazing! I could never have handled it with as much grace and care as she did.
@@IAmThatBit-- the last phrase should've been "do you like this story? and my AH boyfriend says my fanfiction is bad!"
Also three updates in 24 hours all with highly detailed anecdotes is mad
Smosh validating my "cringy" hobbies is so heartwarming and I didn't expect it today.
as a former retail worker of 6 years, i would love to see retail horror stories. trust me, there would be some crazy stuff.
yesssss
Agreed! I definitely have some I could add, many of them involving 💩 in the fitting rooms…
@@sarahsackett3605 someone once left a used, rolled up pad in one of the fitting rooms at my store 🤢
this would be probably one of the craziest episodes !!!
@@katiehaleyeah Nooooo whyyyyyyyy
The infidelity might be chronic but the audacity is iconic
Omg 😂😂
Noel Miller voice: “BARS!”
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Omg that women who filed the divorce is an incredible mother. I like how she just barely hints at it but the amount of respect she has for her kids to give them a therapist and explain to them the truth to help them through the loss. You can tell how amazing she is by the fact that her INLAWS and her FRIENDS PARENTS took HER side over their own children. She sounds like an incredible woman who didn’t deserve any of this :(
The other mom doing the slideshow, daggers! That family is scary awesome
Yessss to both of these comments, I think about this women and what her life is looking like right now at least once a day now.
Exactly. I'm so happy about what she said about "they're tiny humans but humans still"
UPDATE:
Just wanted to come back for a small update :) Baby is here! He was born slightly premature but no nicu stay was needed. He was 5lbs 9oz and 19” and absolutely beautiful. Angie was in the room with me when I had him while MIL stayed with the other littles. My older two are obsessed with their baby brother and it makes my heart happy.
MIL and Angie are taking turns spending the night and days with me for the first six weeks until we get acclimated. I told them they didn’t have to but they insisted. Honestly I’m grateful for it. I can feel the waves of PPD trying to drag me under and my mental health really hasn’t been doing so good (don’t worry my therapist knows and we’re working through it). Knowing that this baby never gets to know and feel the love of my dad has really been hurting and the fact that this is the only grand baby he didn’t get to meet. I miss him like crazy and wish he was still here.
Jake was planning on staying in for another two years to retire but they offered him “early retirement” (not because anything going on with me or this whole situation, there was a situation at work. He didn’t do anything wrong lol) so within the next six months he’ll be moving back home. He’s going to try house hunting and find a place before he comes home but since he isn’t allowed to take any leave during this time to view places since he has to work on his exit stuff there’s a chance he’ll be temporarily living with me until he finds a place. No he isn’t moving in permanently lol. He might even just get an apartment for a year and then buy a house.
There’s also some drama with Tyler already because he’s pissed I wouldn’t let him in the room when I had baby. So if you want any more updates on that front I’ll provide when I’m not overwhelmed.
Love you all, thank you all for being my ear when I need to vent and get everything off my chest. I hope all of your days are wonderful today and everything goes your way.
Until next time friends
Watching this after April 1st, Shayne's advice is so good! "Just focus on making friends, and finding love will work out eventually". Meanwhile Courtney is just sitting there screaming internally "mhmm, yeah".
Seeing how the ex reacted when she left it makes me SO GLAD she didn’t confront him herself. She was pregnant and vulnerable. I would seriously consider never being alone with him and living with someone else while he goes through everything for a while. The worst time for women with violent partners is within two years of leaving them.
Yeah the X husband was going to fucking kill her.
But he wasn't violent, he did became crazy after they left him in the gray zone tho
@@idk-ye7urhe put holes in walls and trashed his own house. If that ain't violence I don't know what is
@idk-ye7ur and he went to her dad's home with a bat and trashed his door too!!!!
@@idk-ye7urhe became violent after she left him sooooo he could have easily hurt her as well
"Blood or not you are no daughter of mine"is an incredibly tragic but also incredibly hard line!
Trevor and Courtney screaming at each other when Shayne said "update" was adorable
TYLER AND JESS STORY UPDATE: as of 8 days ago she has updated us. her babyboy is here and she is struggling with a her mental health a bit after the birth but is working on it with her therapist. Angie and her MIL still help out constantly even taking turns spending the night with her. On the tyler front she didn’t allow him in the delivery room (rightfully so) and he was pissed abt that, she said she would update on that front further when she isn’t overwhelmed as much. and what you’ve all been waiting for JAKE. jake was granted early retirement bc of his own personal thing (wasn’t said what but she said he didn’t do anything wrong or anything like that) he is trying to house hunting bc he is moving back home soon but can’t really look for anything as he is still finishing out his job and can’t take leave butttt he may end up temporarily staying with her while he looks for a home :))))
Thank you
My mom was a prolific and extremely popular fanfic writer when I was young. My dad is her biggest supporter, and encourages her to get back on to writing, fanfiction or otherwise. You deserve someone who supports you like that!
ooo, what fandom?
Aww, that’s so sweet
@@K.Arashiexactly what I want to know!
Fanfics are amazing. I mean our favorite characters have new adventures. It's creative and i'm so happy to have been able to read so many stories. And i know someone who is a fanfic writer and has published books.
Like, if someone draws fanart, that's still art. Fanfiction is just as much real writing as any other kind of literature
Archive of Our Own, one of the most in-depth and populated fanfiction websites, has won a Hugo Award. So technically, anyone who posted a fanfic on there prior to the year that Hugo award was given has won a literature prize. Fanfiction is a real form of writing.
I have read masterpieces on AO3, beautifully paced, excellent plot, fantastic dialogue. I would call them pieces of art.
Then I would read an absolutely dumperster fire of a fanfic, no grammar, one word block, dialogue without paragraphs.
And you know what? Both of these things are valid and should be there.
It's unhinged, but god do I love it.
@@colt9836dang dude got any masterpiece recs?
@@colt9836 totally agree! I love the variation and that it encourages anyone, of any ability, to write! I like to leave reviews even on the ones that are very clunky and a bit hard to read because I think it's great that people are trying. I know people who use it to practice their English too and I think that's awesome - writing anything comprehensible in another language is a damn good effort in my books even if the grammar, format, etc. isn't perfect.
Fanfic is a great medium. It can be just fun, a hobby, practice or lead into money-making, career, published authors and all of those are valid. It can build such a great community and give people encouragement to be creative regardless of their end goal. Creativity is good for the soul so I think it should always be encouraged.
@@colt9836 I've read fics that are legit better than 90% of published and even popular fiction.
I could also really really relate to her hesitancy of "admitting" she wrote fanfic to her BF. for some reason that can be such a vulnerable thing to share? I think partly because it's stigmatised through being seen as cringy and weird. I'm very proud of my own fanfictions, both the prose and the themes in them, but I've only ever shared them with online friends who are "in" on fandom culture - no irl friends.
Also, key for the 50:33 update:
Tyler: Ex-Husband (Soon-to-Be)
Jess: Ex-Best Friend
Angie & Bob: Ex-Best Friend’s Parents
Jake: Ex-Best Friend’s Brother
Ruth & Joe: In-Laws
Dad: OP Dad
OH! Thx for this. I completely missed that Jake was Jess' brother, that makes the crush thing even heavier
@@MarleneRodriguez711it was so messy i needed help to keep track myself 😂
Bless you
haha dude I kept going back like, crap who is this who is this lol
Thanks so much for this! Just a reminder that he’s an ex-husband, not ex-bf. But again, thank you so much for writing it down! It really helps /genuine
I love fanfiction. I absolutely love and admire fanfiction writers. Thank you for all the beautiful stories you guys made. Some will call me cringey and weird, but fanfictions help me with my depression and they're my only entertainment when I was lonely.
i’ve read fanfiction that was published 8plus years ago that is better then the “real” novels we have today
I don't think anyone who has an ounce of creativity about them think that it's cringey or weird. It's art, it's fun. What's not to enjoy and appreciate!
I used to write fanfiction during the loneliest periods of my life. It was so incredibly inspiring and sweet to see the comments people would leave, genuinely grateful for my works. We see every comment and kudos you leave, and it means the world to me when readers express their opinions about my writing. 💜
Me too. I have been reading Fanfiction for over 20 years, and I love it. It has helped me so much in my darkest times.
Yes!! As a fanfic reader & writer is always disheartening to see stories like that one that treat the hobby as a joke. It’s a legitimate hobby that brings many people joy & people create for FREE!!
fun fact: A lot of writers for tv shows and cartoons all that jazz start by writing fanfictions but theyre actually called "spec scripts" youre basically taking the characters and writing an original story (so fanfiction basically) it shows people hiring that youre able to take characters and fully understand their personalities and how to write them and how you can be creative with the situations you put them in
A lot of fanfics I have written got rewritten into an original story. It made it so easier to get a story out. I was able to develop characters that were more complex histories and backstories.
It also helped with world-building. Setting a story in lord of the rings was so easy to transition to my own fantasy world, using Tolkiens' basics of his world building to create my own.
honestly fanfic is such a solid tool for getting an understanding of how other story writing goes. it often gets rid of the need to establish character or setting and lets people focus on more intimate details. and even then some writers fully just do their own thing and could change the names of characters and no one would ever know it started as a fanwork! fic writers are some of the most creative people ive ever met and many of them go on to work in the "industry".
I mean if you think about it most tv and movie sequels are "fanfiction" because writiers change between seasons/sequels
Courtney was right, the pregnant mom truly is the closest you can get to a superhero! What a courageous and brave woman, such an inspiration
And clearly a fake unfortunately. There simply wasn't enough time between updates. In one day (which they refer to as the last few days", they got STI testing, had a lawyer look at multiple wills and divorce, saw a therapist, cleared out a house and got the children relocated.. while six months pregnant and sorting out her fathers hospice? Not possible in the time frame
The story about the woman who got cheated on by her husband and best friend was so awful I was on the verge of tears. I can’t imagine how painful all of that turmoil at once must feel. She is so incredibly strong and I’m glad she has a solid support system
Seriously! I wish everyone going through similar situations the strength of that amazing woman.
If it makes you feel any better, she doesn’t really exist
no forreal I teared up at MULTIPLE points thinking about how awful that would be. It honestly sounds like my worst nightmare. She was so strong and honestly badass, protecting her kids, doing everything right...like Courtney said, a superhero
Fr I watch this show to laugh at Reddit idiots but man that story really brought me down I can’t imagine going through all that pain
And she's pregnant. Pregnancy emotions are so different than normal. I feel so sad for her
Watching this now after knowing that they were dating is so cute! Especially the look Courtney gives Shayne after she says she watches the show while doing her make up is so cute
I go back to 22:48, Courtney's probably going "aww~"
Also they are both aware of what constitutes a romantic hike and what does not.
41:21 what an amazing woman, kind, grounded, not seeking petty revenge but just getting her shit done. She thought of literally everything to make sure she and her kids were safe. Amazing honestly.
Reba.
And clearly a fake unfortunately. There simply wasn't enough time between updates. In one day (which they refer to as the last few days", they got STI testing, had a lawyer look at multiple wills and divorce, saw a therapist, cleared out a house and got the children relocated.. while six months pregnant and sorting out her fathers hospice? Not possible in the time frame
@@Brian-gt3hxYeah, it all seemed too storylike to be true
Honestly I cried. I felt for this woman. Loosing a parent to cancer is the worst, and I honestly don’t know how I would’ve handled the infidelity on top of that. She’s so strong and I hope her and her kids are continuing to be safe, healthy and happy. God bless her ❤
@@neelauthayan She is definitely not real unfortunately
I LOVE that Kiana said Courtney is the number one fan of this show and that Courtney responds that she watches the show while doing her makeup :) Literally the opposite of Ian who we've found out doesn't watch the Smosh Pit videos at all basically LOL
Courtney is so wholesome and you can really tell she cares about her friends. She's constantly reassuring people and is the first to make comforting gestures when somebody makes a mistake on camera. Her level of empathy is something to aspire to
thats so sweet!! when did she say this
they’re so cute 🥲 you can tell court really cares about and supports everyone at smosh, even as an employee at the company.
@@tillytiger5041around the 40 min mark!
@@yaynaymaybayThanks :D!!
that pregnant woman is a saint. she sounds like a wonderful person and mother. the way she talks about her kids with them deserving the truth and i love that. the fact that she has gone through all of this and she’s still holding her head up high is AMAZING. she is so strong. i would be stuck in my bed all day for weeks if this happened to me. she is so mature and calm. i love her so much and i hope everything goes okay
When you make up stories on Reddit sometimes you hit a honeycomb with the details. This is 100 percent made up. Screams for "give me a medal."
@@Svol09 unlikely. her account was created in april. why would she create a new account just for karma. she wanted to get it off her chest, for real. the details are well written, and realistic. i feel like everyone claiming its fake have no idea what it is like to be emotionally mature and betrayed. this is exactly what i would do, and actually i was recently dumped via text completely out of the blue and i just accepted it immediately, took all my things and left as he said "you dont even want to try to work things out??" expecting me to beg for him. some people just really have the audacity
@@StrawberryPigeons whats her @
I was on the verge of tears the whole time during her post reading. The moment Courtney called her a super hero I finally broke. The amount of power she has for not only dealing with this, BUT SETTING HERSELF UP FOR SUCCESS AFTER. She is an amazing woman and mother, to be that example to her whole family.
It does come across made up with how many events seem to take place in a very short amount of time
I love Courtney’s threat of “YOU BETTER READ THIS NICELY” 😂
"i'm about to lose my family and support system in one blow" it's so wonderful how many other people stayed rooting for her, without the best friend and husband. she kept her kids and took her husband's And best friend's families ! that's wonderful
Im actually really worried about that woman and her ex husband. He went to where they were and brought a baseball bat, trying to break down the door. That is NOT normal behavior, that man is dangerous
When he found the post, he apologized for that. But his affair parter said that they were planning to run away together.
So she Luckily got full custody of the kids with supervised visitation and I think it was at the in-laws house or something [FIL was also there to keep an eye on them] and the eldest kid kept asking where OP was and when she'd come etc and the ex-husband got pissed and started throwing stuff so the judge made the supervision even stricter and they have to meet at a specific facility. The FIL takes the kids and stays even though he doesn't have to so he can keep an eye on it. It's such a sad situation but I think things are getting better :D
@@mirofeyathats most likely just for show though, like he is still crazy for doing it
As a writer, my heart dropped during the fanfiction story. That woman deserves so much better.
Yeah like it can be cringey, but demeaning her in front of her family, saying she didn’t deserve her degree, ffs awful person
As an avid reader of them I love fanfics people are really creative and expand on ideas that I also enjoy. So the fact he makes fun of her pissed me off
Fanfic is such a complicated thing because even if you use characters and a world that's already built you put your own spin on it and have to work on keeping the essence of the original (if that's wanted) plus as he said she wrote a more than 100k fic if that's not writing (practice) then what is?
I can't begin to understand how his brain operated. It was her hobby/passion, and one she was embarrassed about. And his response is to attack it? To demean her in front of his family? Now she has to deal with the emotional scars of having someone she liked and trusted turning on her like that when she already felt vulnerable about it.
Yeah it takes a lot to get to a point of writing an official well written story, those 2 books she wrote barely break that skill
The way that daughter describes her father makes him sound so amazing.
“The cheaters weren’t expecting any sort of consequences” that was a really insightful commentary from Courtney. Makes me think why do cheaters think they have done nothing wrong and why is it commonplace a lot of the times.
It's a mindset. Of course cheaters put their happiness above that of everyone else, so they expect everyone else to ALSO put the cheaters happiness above their own
Because they are naval gazers. Nothing besides themselves matter.
Narcissists. They genuinely feel entitled to their every desire and they get defensive and go on the attack even when they're clearly in the wrong.
@@aff77141 I don’t think it’s as much they want others to put their happiness above their own (most of the time) but mainly because when they are in the affair, they get so caught up in their own feelings that they forget about others. It is still a very selfish thing to do for someone.
The fact that the pregnant woman was able to not only escape from a serial cheater, but a hidden abuser is such an amazing result. I mean the fact that their house was torn apart with punch holes and that he took a baseball bat to the dad's door shows his true character and I can only imagine how worse it could have been if this side of him had been activated during their marriage while she and the kids were present. Good for her for escaping that situation!
Yeah that was scary af 😳
I'm so glad she was able to dodge that cannonball sized bullet. 😢 That could have gone SO far south. I hope the judge in her case isn't an idiot and doesn't try to force custody and put those babies in harms way by handing them directly over to a freaking self admitted abuser who threatened to unalive them.
@SakuraMoonflower not to be a nitpicker (because I'm ABSOLUTELY going to nitpick), but a "cannonball sized bullet" is just a cannonball. Or a shell, I guess. Cannonball still works for the metaphor.
@@SakuraMoonflowerWait wait wait, he threatened to WHAT?? Was this from another update???
@@iMirandaJae It's in one of the original posts, I think around the bat incident
That woman is literally my hero, she is going through all of this WHILE PREGNANT and also respecting her kids and being a good mom and her attitude is literally the best she could possibly have considering that situation.
and her dad has cancer!!! total respect for her
She co owns a tattoo parlor… literally a content creator, him saying she doesn’t understand has to be one of the most insulting things, she’s a professional artist
I rewound and re-watched Shane's sly "UPDATE!" smile/face and Courtney + Trevor's complete freak-out at least a couple dozen times; I cannot stop laughing at their reactions but holy crap, the pregnant woman's situation is SO rough! Best wishes to her for sure, and best Reddit episode so far to date!
49:53 just in case anyone needs it
@@lilybickerton4768❤❤❤
Saaaaaame
I need another update 😅
I knew it was coming because I saw how much time was left in the story, so I waited for their reaction with Shane's exact smile 😂
As a fanfic writer, it's not that easy to write something good in fandoms. Everyone criticizes you because of how you portray the characters, getting hits or kudos is extremely hard. I have mad respect for successful fanfic writers.
Agreed. I'll add the caveat that I have even more respect for fanfic writers who succeed to write a story without repeating events from the original source material.
Every so often, I see a comment on someone's fanfic complaining how the writer is repeating the same main plot (I mainly read Tensura/Slime fanfics) and it's boring for them to read through them. I click on their account and see zero fanfics published from them and it's ludicrous to make that complaint without trying to write a fully original fanfic while staying true to the personalities of multiple characters themselves.
Don't know how it is for you as a writer, but from my experience, writing a fanfic, even if it's unpublished and will never see the light of day, is still very difficult. During quarantine, I decided to create a fanfic combining the worlds and characters of Tensura, Pokémon, Legends of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel 1-4, Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 Royal & Strikers, and Love Live School Idol Project.... Many weeks go by where I make an edit, only to trash it immediately and end up with barely a few sentences to show for it.
as a fic reader we love and respect your hard work, thank you for your service.
As someone who attempted to write fanfiction, it's a lot of work. You not only have to use these characters and keep in mind these canon events you have to make sure your own characters are unique enough and that their story doesn't end up causing canon characters to act in a way that wouldn't make sense. Its insanely limiting with the stress of trying to create something of your own that fits in and also is different enough to be something of its own and people are brutal when they comment on it.
I have read so many great fanfics over the years and I appreciate the writers because I know it’s not easy.
@@spectrum4524This is somewhat of a weird take, that I disagree with. Writing fanfiction is difficult, and writing good fanfiction is even more so. But to say that someone's criticism of a story holds less value because that person has never written themselves is where I disagree. By this standard, audiences opinions on movies or books hold little value because they haven't made a movie or written a book. The truth is, most fanfiction is cringe, and the reason is because people interpret characters from stories differently, and it's really difficult to portray a character the same way as another author.
One of my favorite things to point out about Fanfiction is how The Divine Comedy, by Dante, arguably one of the most well known poems in the world, is literally a self-insert Fanfiction. Like, Dante spends the entire saga painting himself as being BFFs with his favorite writers while he depicts all of his personal opponents and just people he didn't like as suffering in Hell. It doesn't make it any less prolific or meaningful, it just simply is what it is.
Bible fanfiction is wild.
Exactly!! also did you by chance find out about this through Wendigoon???
@@shay5479 Nope, no idea who that is
@@gray9818Wendigoon is a UA-cam channel that does… calming? commentary on various things, including a summarization and contextualization of the divine comedy. I like him, but will say the influence his religious beliefs have on content like Dante’s can be off putting
@@ScionStorm1 it’s not so much Bible fanfiction as an allegory of what Dante thought of the church at the time. It was basically a way for him to air out his grievances with the Catholic Church without him getting excommunicated.
Courtney being the biggest fan of Shayne's show is even sweeter now. Internet personalities watching their SO's vids so they can talk about it together later is one of those rare connections the internet was made for 💜
I have been in a car with a guy who did the whole "detour to spend more time together" it was honestly terrifying and it only lasted 10-15 minutes. I can't even imagine 6 HOURS. I legit started panicking asking where he was going while he laughed and said we were going to my friends house he was supposed to be dropping me off at. I told him we were going the opposite direction he again laughed and tried to start small talk back up. Lol. He refused to turn around until I really started panicking and threatened to jump out of the car. Long story short don't corner people to attempt to force something its so scary. Lol.
The laughing, wtf why do some guys think this is some silly little romantic activity. This is literally how most assaults and kidnappings happen, not some rando dragging you into a dark alley while you were walking home alone, but rather somewhere you thought was safe with someone you know who you thought you could trust.
@kaylawoodbury2308 exactlyyy the guy was nuts which I sadly found put after our first "date" which included him taking us to a cigar bar and asking for money for gas then ordering a drink for himself in front of the people who gave him money. He was shocked I didn't want anything to drink. I was mortified. After this "date" is when I asked to be taken to a friend's and he decided our date should last longer.
@@carijean37 Meanwhile I guarantee afterwards he hung out with his friends and ragged on you for being "psycho" and "paranoid" while trying to paint what he did in a cute, totally innocent gesture to just get to know you. It's just gross.
Duuude I've been there. My ex used to drive recklessly and without any destination any time we got in an argument while he drove. I legit feared for our lives.
@@carijean37
Some guys have bad social skills and don't know what it's like to be a girl in a situation like that. Doesnt make excuses do.
40:40 has been updated again! The marriage is dead and gone, but the ex recognized how dangerous and upsetting his behavior was, so he's in anger management and therapy. He does supervised visits with the kids in a facility. Oh, and the ex bff found the post and commented some delulu crap about how the husband was gonna run away with her and they were in love. In the newest update, however, the ex husband left her high and dry.
OP's father passed away about a week after everything happened, unfortunately. The baby has since been born and named after him. OP is still figuring out how to live in a world without him, but she's got her ex MIL and the ex bff's Mom (basically a second mother to her) to help pick up the pieces. And finally, Jack. He had to go back to his base, he couldn't extend his leave any more. They're not a thing for now as OP isn't ready to date, but he's said he'll always be a friend for her.
*Jake not jack, in case anyone was confused
there's no way this was true. it sounds like a great way to work out a narrative for a book though! bet OP is writing a struggling author.
This could be a book tbh
@@luc-i-guess the strangest thing is I think she mentioned she was 6 months pregnant so...having a baby a month later sounds a little sus
@@emma_ruth_design could have been a preemie. 7 months isn’t an uncommon point for premature babies to be born. Also because of the stress OP was going through it could have caused the premature birth.
The woman whose husband cheated on her is so fucking strong. She was on top of everything, she’s so determined to push through all this pain. She cares about her kids so much, and her dedication to being honest with them - “they’re small humans, but they’re still humans, and they deserve respect” - I love this woman. I hope one day I’m even half as brave as her.
Agreed 100%
Shayne: “SOMEONE’S ON THE TOILET RIGHT NOW LIKE WOOAH”
Me: “HOLY SHI THAT’S ME.”
Shayne: “Is that YOU?!”
Me: “WHAT. YEAH.”
Updates for commenters like me about “My husband cheated on me with my beefy friend”: Tyler found the post before she handed over divorce papers. He apologized for over reacting but same OP view on him as before. JESS THE BEST FRIEND THO made the choice to Comment on The Post. Identifying herself, and Tyler by their real names. Claiming they were planning to run away together, and insulting OP with failure to give birth level gross stuff. They kids now know and therapy is already set up. She’s on the up and up and is not planning on starting anything with Jake who confessed. He has also made no further advances and remained helpful.
Thanks for the update!!
Thank you kindly for the update!
Thanks for the update, couldn't find a link to the post
Can you link to the updates? I can't find it 🙏🏻
Thank you for the update! Just replying to the thread in case anyone finds this link, I'd also like to have it
47:43 Courtneys horrified "OH NOOOOOOOO" after finding out about the sextape is PRICELESS hahahaha
I had the same reaction, the pure horror I would’ve felt opening that video up I would’ve fainted
I had basically the same reaction.
Tyler is getting DESTROYED in divorce court.
Okay, this entire last story is fucking.....blam.
I've actually commented on this on reddit, but to see the reactions here....just...wow.
@@timhonigs6859 what are you going on about?
Watching Trevor's and Courtney's faces as the story that started at 14:37 progressed is like an emotional roller coaster by itself
His description of her was so creepy
23:06 this story was a damn good argument for why we would choose the bear, Jesus.
I found this combo of Shayne, Courtney, and Trevor to be especially riveting for the Reddit stories format. Can't wait to see the three of you together in another vid!
EDIT: Also the woman from the second-to-last story is absolutely legendary for how she handled her situation. I wouldn't wish what she went through on anyone. SHE CALLED THEIR MOTHERS.
Riiiiiight???!!! If I did ANYTHING like those two, the absolutely last person (after my partner) I would want to find out would be my MUM!!! Good on that woman and good on those mothers for not being blind to their children's vile behaviors.
I agree! They had such great conversations about everything while also being hilarious
The pregnant mother broke my damn heart. Her going to a cabin was probably the smartest move like- he could've hurt her. He probably was GOING to. I'm so happy that people around her are so supportive.
It's so scary.
I swear that Shane did a lot to carry the channel while Anthony was gone. Dude's smart, genuine, and he's really funny. He needs more credit, man. Amazing host.
Courtney and Damien have also been massive driving forces for Smosh too. These three all carried Smosh in their own ways post-Defy and its good that Smosh can still thrive both with and without Anthony.
Absolutely! Even though i stopped watching when Anthony first left i did come back here and there and seen some clips. Man’s talented af. Truely the star of the bunch
Always had been
Absolutely agree!!
Ikr, like I don’t get how such a perfect human being exists. He’s funny, intelligent, nice, respectful, humble, handsome, productive, open-minded, can act, can play the tuba, like holy shit
1:01:44 just read the latest update from op and she is doing great. her MIL and angie are helping her with the kids, her ex is not trying to get custody of the kids and won't even talk to her through a third party lmfao. her and jake are also seeing each other, but are not officially together. she seems to be doing well and is fairly active on reddit. it makes me so happy that she is doing well after such a huge loss. she's slaying ❤
I also just read her updates and I'm so happy for her I'm not even joking 😭😭 it's amazing that she has her "internet family" support, people are to kind to her there and she totally deserves it!!
The pregnant woman's story actually has a lot of update. Her ex-best friend even commented on one of the threads and EXPOSED HER REAL NAME.
WAIT FOR REAL??? LINK PLEASEEE
Commenting in the hopes of a link
Same link please
I would also like a link
NO WAYYY DID PEOPLE FIND THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA I NEED TO SEE
I'm screaming with rage on the inside about the boyfriend calling out Abby about her fanfiction. As a 100k+ FF writer myself, that freaking hurts. I also did it as a hobby during Covid, as I was lucky enough to be able to work from home. I stopped writing it because of a troll that finally hit the right nerve, it's been 2 years now and I still make excuses not to write any of the stories because my confident is shot.
Abby, if you're reading this, keep doing you. As a fellow FF Author, your ideas are 100% awesome!
You have my utmost respect. I have writing difficulties myself (I can read just fine through), so anyone who can produce words on a page regardless of quality is magic as far as I’m concerned. Quality writing is practically miraculous. Respect.
Hey, don't know if that helps you with motivation but I currently writing literature at a university in Germany there are not only multiple people who write or appreciate fanfictions them self, but smosh also were very correct on pointing out the inherent worth of fanfiction.
If you want to write good, you are not born with that skill you need to practice regularly and everything is better than a blank piece of paper. Also feedback! Sounds like you got a lot of feedback and feedback is one of the most crucial things in writing if you want to make sure that your stuff does not only make sense in your head. Literally our whole writing practice in university is built on those two fundamentals and you got them for free.
Additionally, yes of course there is 100% artistic value in fanfiction. So many classics of literature (like The Devin comedy or goethes faust) are built on other mythologies like the bible or Greek mythology, so why would there be any less value you doing that. It's not like Hollywood isn't constantly writing their own fanfictions for Star Wars, Batman or real life events. If anything it just becomes cooler if someone does it just for their own joy instead of for profit:)
Abby's ex and that troll are both morons. It must have taken massive amounts of creative effort to write so much and even if you don't wish to continue, you should be proud of what you've done. Don't listen to sad little people trying to put you down to lift themselves up.
Also I mean. "Technically" isn't stuff like new episodes of Doctor Who also 'fanfiction'. The current writers didn't create the main character and many of the characters and Backstories. They're basically like. Those "10 years later" fanfics. The only difference is nobody validated fanfic writers stories with a paycheck. But hey. It's still writing and creativity and ideas and that's great.
I made some good friends during the pandemic over Reddit because we bonded over video game fanfiction. They’re accomplished writers, one of their works still on going. It was so much fun to discuss headcannons, bounce ideas off eachother, and just have fun getting creative over the game.
We’ve all read bad ff, but *good* ff takes real skill. It’s a worthy hobby, and can add so much joy to a fandom.
My heart breaks for the PHD Writer: her ex just bashed her in so many ways and yet he hasn't achieved as much. I personally have a long term hobby of writing original roleplay with a friend and sometimes I think about making parts of it a book but it doesn't have to be. My ex husband would bash my college, my work, so much and yet complained why I wasn't as motivated as before. Bashing and gaslighting are far too common and it destroys the soul. Very relieved the Writer was like /NO/ and didn't even try to communicate with him because he didn't deserve that.
Also 100% agree Video Games are far more important and it is a form of visual art that honestly can be better than movies. Addiction happens in anything, and video game addictions have hurt me and others- but I appreciate them and love to watch gameplays mainly for the visual experience. Games aren't silly (usually) they're still a piece of art that's a new level of interactive play.
Would you happen to know CritiqueCircle? It's a place for aspiring authors to publish their work in order to receive critiques from other people and provide critiques in return. It's a well-intentioned community (from my experience) and one that could help you take the next step in your writing journey.
I think he was 100% jealous of her having a PhD, otherwise he wouldn't have said that "she is not that smart she writes fanfiction" bullshit that he called a "joke"
That op in the PhD story is 100% insecure about her being smarter than him and was looking for something to hold over her head to give himself some form of superiority. That's why it wasn't until his family was impressed with her degree and career that he felt the need to -joke- tear into her hobby .
Yeah I felt bad for the PHD girl. Guy was a piece of garbage.
I went to undergrad for Creative Writing. It’s not the top program, but we graduated several kids to go to Sarah Lawrence and Iowa (😑).
Of the ~10 Fiction majors who intended to write a full novel, I think only one my year actually did so. (Not trying to flex, this story just made me furious. I didn’t end up finishing my novel either.)
Also, defending a dissertation is *hard*. There’s tons of academics that go “ABD” for several years.
I feel like he didn’t want to understand the work and effort it took her to get the achievements that he’s measuring himself by. (Also, 100K is a solid word count for a YA book before final edits. Especially if it’s intended to be a series. She may be done and just needs a good *friend* to edit with.)
The "Just wanted to get to know her" guy almost made me sympathetic until I realized just how much of a creep he was.
As someone with autism I can understand having very formal and blunt language, especially when typing. However, that doesn't excuse his objectification of her and his doubling down when said creepiness was pointed out to him. I can also understand on a base level how, in his mind, this was an opportunity to connect with someone. I can even understand checking out the trail beforehand because he wanted to be prepared.
Where I draw the line is that instead of just talking to her during the scheduled three hours of walking, he felt the need to lie to her and mislead her. As a rule of thumb, I don't like lying, but especially during this circumstance. The thought of being stuck on a trail with a stranger for six hours - no matter what issues they may or may not have - but especially if that person is constantly making unwanted advances towards me, is horrifying. And I truly feel for that poor woman.
It's really hard to listen to some of these stories because I want to give someone the benefit of the doubt, especially when there are aspects of them I can relate to, but honestly, that guy is so insane that all my sympathy for him evaporated the moment he started objectifying her. And it withered away into nothing the second he started telling her the maps were wrong. This guy definitely needs social interaction, but probably with a therapist first.
This guy needs to be watched, and a therapy not focused on him feeling better but one that is focused on deprogramming his predatorial behaviour. As you say he barely sees her as anything other than an object for him to use, he also continues to think "she will come to her senses" which shows he doesn't respect a "no I never want to see you again". This was isolating and sexually harrassing a woman, but I fear what he could do next.
Love this Reddit content. Shayne is such a great host.
Bring mail time back 👍👍
Reddit+Shayne=✨ pristine ✨content
truly the host of all hosts
Me too - I look forward to this every Saturday! If I've had time to browse Reddit sometimes it's even a post I've seen.
Love this Shane content. Reddit is such a good host.
I think I’d go to war for the woman who’s husband an best friend cheated on her. Genuinely don’t think a story has made me that angry in a long time
I think you can tell how lovely the pregnant woman was from how others reacted to her situation. The parents all sided with her and her boss even allowed her to come back to work. She clearly has made good/positive connections with people.
I’ve never been a fan of Smosh until recently when I saw the reunion. I came across one of these videos about a week ago and I’ve been hooked. I’ve been watching so many of these videos and the stories are insane! Keep them coming cause I’m hooked 😂😂😂
me too omg in all the years they existed ive never been into smosh but i've now accepted shayne as my father who's reading me bedtime stories
@@thatsclownshit3145 for real though 🤣🤣🤣
y’all gotta give Shane more credit than he gets. He’s one of the best additions ever added
He's literally been an icon of Smosh for years now, I think he gets plenty of recognition
Bro there’s literally memes out there that say smosh wouldn’t exist without Shayne 😂
he gets a lot of credit wdym
there is literally a who meme'd it where they show a meme that says smosh at 99% power is just shayne and they all kinda agreed, he's been the fan favourite for years he gets plenty of recognition
just to clarify, i think shayne's great, hes one of my faves too but he gets plenty of recognition
I think he gets a lot of credit, but it’s true that Smosh might have folded in the last six years without him. He cares so deeply and really seems to support all the people he works with.
As I've found my way back to smosh in the past week I have literally watched this entire series in like 3 days. I cannot get enough of it
Yay! I'm glad you're not one of the haters of anyone who isn't Ian or Anthony LOL
Same!
Same! Though many of these stories have absolutely taken years off my life lol
One of the best series indeed
40:41 I hope the OP gets a swift divorce and full custody of all children. I hope she continues to be strong for her kids and especially herself. I’m proud that she took the initiative to have better for herself and kids rather than stay in a toxic relationship. When hearing how violent the soon to be ex got makes me glad that she and her kids were no where around and somewhere safe. I’m also glad both sets of parents and the sibling of the ex sided with OP and supported her. I hope the exs both continues to have the worst karma come to them.
There was an update made about two weeks ago in the comments:
Hi everyone. I know a lot of people are still asking for an update.
Not much has happened but here are the things that have happened.
• Tyler discovered the post and asked me if I was seeking a divorce. I said I was. He apologized for losing his cool. Asked if there was any hope for reconciliation, I said no. We did have a conversation about the kids, and he’ll be allowed to see them with supervision to which he agreed to.
• I had another meeting with my lawyer, nothing of major importance happened.
• Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing has happened with Jake. He didn’t take back his confession but as I said it’s on the back-burner for a long while. My kids health and well-being take priority over all else.
• my dads health is on a steady decline. He’s now in the hospital with no release date in the immediate future. Please send over thoughts and well wishes his way.
• my kids are adjusting well. We have a therapy appointment for them scheduled next week to help them. My oldest has more questions then the rest but I’m trying to save any big conversations for the therapy appointment so I know I’m conveying the answers in a meaningful and the least harmful way. Also my oldest made try outs for the traveling soccer league, yay! :) oh and the baby is doing great!
Things have calmed down a lot. Truly. I feel like I have a better grip on things. I’ve been putting most of my focus on my dad and kids to keep myself busy.
Thanks you friends for the love, support, and for checking in ❤️
@@DaoFAQ In addition, Jess commented on the update viciously, but it got removed by the mods. Insane!
@@minstantgram I was curious what Jess said
@@minstantgram I want to wht she had to say
@@minstantgram Good. Jess is an abysmal human being. She shouldn't have any say in this
Op that caught her ex husband’s affair has a few more updates: ex husband has gone no contact with op and kids and has remarried with a new kid on the way. Jess showed up to op’s house and caused a scene before involving the cops, tried to pick up her oldest kid from school but was stopped by the staff, and harassed op’s work to get her fired with fake complaints. Op has a Restraining order that is in effect. Jake has moved in and is fully stepped up for Op and kids, promising to adopt the kids when they get married.
Thanks so much for this update, this is an hbo show
Added to clarify: Jess had called the cops on OP after walking into her kitchen while op was holding a knife for cooking and claimed op had threatened her but they have cameras all over the house and were able to prove Jess had just walked in uninvited and op didn’t threaten her