The TRIANGLE GUARD (for great boxing defense and offense)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Sharing a very simple but effective fighting position for boxing defense and counter-punching. Very easy to use, used by many professional and champion boxers.
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Important tip: rotate FOREARMS and move 2 block accordingly.
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you
Anybody try this while sparring? I did.
Instead of exposing the torso you can keep your guard up with the gloves in a neutral position while your radius and ulna run straight down the sides of your body instead of flaring out. This allows you to parry and doesn't waste time parrying body shots when you can simply just lean and your elbow or forearm catches the punch while not even moving the arm or spending all that energy.
I feel like this guard is very susceptible to feints. It's so open that if your opponent feints one side and strikes the other, good luck getting that other wide open arm/glove to come parry it if your opponent is even remotely quick. This gaurd is also very exposed to what we call in our gym 'Dutch'. Lomachenko uses this technique when he slaps one side of the guard down with the opposite side hand and slips in a hook in the opening he created. Since the elbow joint isn't in line with the shoulder joint, Dutch techniques work fantastically against that 45 degree externally rotated elbow.
I also found myself getting uppercut a lot with this guard. I know you can parry them but if the arms are in closer to the body you have more effective surface area to parry with. If your arm is closer in then the uppercut has to pass through the arm if you turn parry and the glove, rather than just the glove in the triangle guard.
I'm not saying this guard is bad. How a boxer uses a guard makes it good, but every guard can be broken using different techniques. I'm sure there are some straight KILLERS who use this guard to their advantage. Most prominent one that comes to mind is Tyson, he would use this quite a bit. This one is not my cup of tea however. I will stick to my classical straight arm stance and philly shell.
Stay strong folks 👊
Thank you for this comment. You are the dream viewer, man! I wish everyone just tried things and came back with actual feedback instead of making up assumptions of how they'd think it would go.
In regards to you getting hit with uppercuts, I think you're committing way more to this guard than I would be. I use it as a transitional guard from time to time for strategic purposes. It's not my guard of choice when I actually want to block stuff. If I sense an uppercut or really committed close-range attack from opponents...I simply use footwork, pivot away, or switch to Philly shell, etc. Indeed, this guard can suck for uppercuts and no surprise at all that Pacquiao put Cotto down with one when he was using this.
@@expertboxing Definitely a transitional tool. I agree. It's good to know. If a fighter doesn't diversify his guard to a degree he's gonna get cracked pretty quick once he's figured out.
Check out the cross armed guard: ua-cam.com/video/sRPjJEuOOC0/v-deo.html
It's almost like a philly shell with the v guard but different because the elbows are more propped up making it rectangular. Kinda interested in trying it. Maybe make a video on it?
I do use that cross-arm guard but it doesn’t show well on camera and I don’t feel like feeding the trolls or having to deal with ignorant questions. lol 😂
I dont like the the name triangle guard. I just makes it sounds like its exposed to uppercut. I call it the "High Guard", "The Shell", or "Blinders".
I used to call it ear muffs but it's not necessarily guarding the ears. Also when you're using the "Triangle Guard" in my opinion it's best to block body shots by dropping your body down other then dropping your hands. Its more effective from countering body shots in my opinion.
Do feel free to modify and call it whatever you want. That would be the best advice for all techniques really.
@@expertboxing I agree
'High Gaurd' should already be taken lol
That is amazing. I was doing it wrong way.
This is so kool ! I will use that with my Muay Thai training!
Absolutely love this video as always mega knowledgble 👊👊
Most importantly you raised my elbow conciousness, thanks dude
Ty I just learned the proper way to use this guard
simple explanation,but it hits the point.
This is great. Good idea.
yes, it’s great
Great video johnny been trying to find a vid on this specific guard. Thank you brother!
Glad I could help!
I use the highgaurd as my main stance and pretty similar to this one only though I tuck in my for arm more and don’t parry body shots. I have my knuckles pointing to the sides like you. I have more like an upside down u and a triangle.
Nice new guard to learn.
Leo santa cruz uses that wall-like guard, he's a pro and iam not but it depends, nice vid
yes it’s a common guard
Old school stance is the best guard also cross guard is quite effective u can easily take away an opponents jab with a cross guard
Best is a relative term. For sure, beginners should be safe, neutral, and conservative. But once you have more experience, it's time to try riskier things for riskier rewards.
@@expertboxing I see a lot of fighters use the high guard head straight on center line and it makes u a way to easy of a target watch even pros use it and they get lit up example oscar valdez...I showed some younger kids at my gym the benefit of the Philly shell and how to position your body to the right like an old school stance and their defense increased right away I would never teach a fighter rhe basic high guard it works at times but it makes it easier for you to get hit ...canelo gets away with it at times due to his slick head movement but his guard has many weaknesses
@@boxersal9570 I think you're confusing correlation with causation. A dude getting hit could just be a dude getting beat. End of story. No need to blame his guard and such and such. A Philly shell has plenty of disadvantages too.
And most definitely, beginners should be taught the high guard. Otherwise, running around with a Philly shell in an amateur fight is a great way to get standing 8's and lose decisions.
Good video. Thank you.
Great video! Can you make a video about cross-armed defense?
You talking about the George Foreman one?
@@expertboxing Yes
I don’t use that one too much except for doing it in tiny spots. So I’m probably not qualified to use it.
Next blog complete fighting style in boxing
Hahaha, the complete fighting style for this guard?
@@expertboxing yes complete fighting for guard
Tried out the triangle guard more infused with a high guard. God damn does it work well with close range defense and infighting. If they go for my gut or solar plexus I can usually turn my elbow in, just gotta be careful not to hit the other elbow else it'll hurt a bunch.
Know this is redundant but for long range id usually go for a long guard/philly shell fusion alongside for lead hand control and better agility wise
yeaup this guard works, and it’s also good to mix it with other guards as well
If you watched Mike Tyson's matches, even though he uses the pee-ka-boo style, his guard is very similar to this triangle guard
Yes, I know that. :)
Already love it
Thank you, Mike.
Its like a muay thai guard
Gadsden flag, nice
Cool guard I wanna test it out on my irritating cousins for self defence of course.
Should I use it in the whole fight or only for some time and If only for some time, then when should I use it?
Sorry for bad English 😅
Please just try and see where it helps you or not.
Is this stance quite squared up? Seems like I’m quite squared up. Sort of like Tyson
Doesn’t have to be.
Box sings...
Tried it not for me
Diss da defense Teofima SR said tank can’t get thru
lets see this guard in real sparring.
Watch Miguel Cotto or Manny Pacquaio...
@@expertboxing ok tq
good luck sparring someone who throws a lot of faints... or has an explosive jab... this stance is how you get set up
nope... but also, no stance out there is immune to feints
Im not convinced.
guard with such an open elbows does not look good. Tight guard allows to protect body better and counter with sharp hooks and uppercuts.
Guard you're showing is the one most muay thai fighters seem to use. And as a person who love short distance and work a lot with uppercuts - I found opponents using this kind of guard to be the easiest target.
Just my personal impression.
Have you ever watched old school fighters on the inside? Lots of open elbows styles out there. Watch Roberto Duran or Chavez. Or Ken Norton cross guard. Or just go to a gym with lots of styles.
@@expertboxing Im guessing you are one of those coaches who do not like when someone disagree with them.
Well. Fair enough.
You said you weren’t convinced. I gave you working examples. Do what you like. ✌️
@@expertboxing of course. However I could give most likely 100 times more examples of other fighters not using that guard and doing great. And you did kind of dismiss other guards.
Anyway thanks for mature replies. Cheers
@@coach-piotr You said you weren't convinced so I gave you examples. Did you want me to keep your mind closed and only show examples that fit your opinions? Roberto Duran is still one of the best P4P fighters of all time. It's not exactly like he's been eclipsed by modern day fighters.
It's pretty darn funny when you accuse someone as not liking when someone else disagrees and yet it's 100% exactly how you're behaving. (No cheers for your attitude, that's for sure.)
Anyway, you do what you want, man. I sincerely don't care how you box.
This is so stupid, what are you gonna do if uppercuts are thrown at you?
The only thing stupid is thinking one defense can evade everything. Every guard has a vulnerability somewhere.
But to answer your question, why don’t you watch Tyson, Cotto, or Pacquaio to see how they dealt with uppercuts.
@@expertboxing Tyson doesn’t even use this guard. He uses the peek-a-boo stance.
I think you’re on the wrong video. Regardless if you get what I’m saying or not, you should find another video if you don’t like this one.
And this is where 52 blocks idea sort of came from.
I don't see anybody walking around with their guard (at least not long lol) consistently in a triangle. There is a time and place but using the triangle (like in the thumbnail) all the time, you would have cracked ribs.
I do agree keeping you hands too low or high or shelling up limits either your vision or mobility.
Triangle is more of where my hands are at from time to time (thus a component) you can never leave any part of your body in one place during boxing. The exposure is just too high to have that as a base guard.
I like it and I only use a few seconds here and there. It’s for tactical purposes more than anything. Certain guards attract certain punches for you to counter off of.
3:48 and 1:06 ... now tell me when have you ever seen this in a real boxing gym...
Yeah buddy, seems you never heard of Miguel Cotto. Go watch some videos and come back.
@@expertboxing My issue is not with what your preaching but the way you are showing it... take a look at 3:48 , have you ever seen cotto fight with his hands like that?!
Dude canelo used this exact guard against jacobs.
@@_bach97 no doubt he did, all I’m saying is the way he’s showing doesn’t correlate with his reasoning
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not my house, and not my political stance. but i hear you
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A libertarian boxer. That's new...
You should get out more.
For boxing is Ok, for a sreet fight the problem is you are exposing your ribs and liver to receive a kick.
Really, so no MMA guys ever use this?
In Muay Thai hands are held high and can angle to make a triangle. If some kicks your ribs you just pick up pick up your knee to your elbow and 💥 blocked. But like anything else gotta work on timing those kicks. Very effective guard!!!
Yes just think of all those street fights youve seen that end in liver kick lol